“Now, Brave Heart” is the exact spot I got teary eyed. Peter Davison was the Doctor when I started watching, and the first episode I remember is the one that Tegan left
I see it like character development. To an extent 10,11, and 12 all made their regenerations deep and heavy. I count 10 because of his whole visiting past companions section. It wasnt wordy but it meant the same thing. 13 had the knowledge to know her existence wasnt finite and from her run the idea of her regenerating with few words and the idea of it being ok to pass it on with grace was a great character progression
He was espousing all of his feelings on what the next Doctor SHOULD be. What his Doctor had to 'relearn' from his reset and regeneration. It showed his character growth. Unfortunately, I never felt like the 13th Doctor ever really embodied those qualities. She never felt like "The Doctor" to me. Much of it was the really terrible writing, of course, but I also felt like Jodie's acting never felt like more than...acting. So everything always felt superficial and so many of her decisions didn't make any sense at all. There was never a moment with her where I felt like "that's the Doctor" like I did with all of the Doctors previous. And having all of these classic Doctors and former companions in this episode only made it more clear how much she did not feel like the character. I'm hoping with this bridge Doctor and a better writer at the help will help to redeem the series and keep it from the chopping block...again.
@@sj4iy I honestly found this whole thing misogynistic. The Doctor has never given a speech like this before to the next Doctor but as soon as we're going to have the first woman Doctor, this guy goes on a ten minute diatribe about how she should act and be. It's kinda BS and is one of the few stains on Peter Capaldi as the Doctor as far as I am concerned.
@@andrewpelletier7921 Oh get off it. No matter who the Doctor is, he/she/it/they should ALWAYS embody those qualities..and if they don't, they are not the Doctor. That's why Jodie never truly became the Doctor...the writing constantly failed to find the actual heart of the character and she was a shallow, pale imitation. It has NOTHING to do with gender at all...had the Doctor been male, they would have had the exact same problem. There's nothing misogynistic about it. Also, have you even watched Doctor Who? Because the Doctor tells people what they should do all the fucking time. Including other Doctors. What about the classic doctors in the finale telling her what she should do? Why is that not misogynistic? Under your terrible misunderstood definition of misogyny, it would be. I'm sorry, but it such a ridiculous take. It was Moffat's last episode as showrunner and he wanted his last Doctor to go out the way he felt proper. That's all...if you read anything else into it, especially anything about gender, you're mistaken.
@@andrewpelletier7921 I don't think it's misogynistic at all… this is just Steven Moffat being Steven Moffat. He's all about his long, drawn out monologues and excessive wordiness. It's not unique to Capaldi, as Matt Smith had to give this whole speech about how everyone changes throughout their lives prior to sneezing into Twelve. The Capaldi speech was more or less just Moffat's way of saying goodbye to the audience, as these were the last few moments of his writing before Chibnall took over with Jodie. And I agree with you… Capaldi's regeneration was excessively wordy, and I didn't care for that quality of Moffat's writing at all. RTD was a lot better at using powerful imagery (Doomsday and Ten's regeneration being a great examples of this) with little to no dialogue. I just wouldn't call it "misogynistic."
David Tennant being back as the Doctor is the perfect combination of old Doctor Who + modern Doctor Who. I cant wait to see him performing with all the possibilities this show has these days. Back when he was Doctor Who, the studio had much fewer funds and options.
The master used the excuse that he wanted to ruin the Doctor's good name, but I think he just wanted to be the "special" one with unlimited regenerations because he couldn't stand the doctor having something special he couldn't.
The 13 limit isn't a purely biological thing for any Time Lord. It's imposed. And Time Lords can just give people new cycles whenever they want. The Doctor still has the 13 regen limit, just like the Master has. Sacha is the 4th incarnation of the Master's current cycle and Jodie is the 3rd incarnation of the Doctor's current cycle
@@carrot708 The doctor THOUGHT they had been granted 13 like other time lords, and the time lords did everything to make him think he did, but in Timeless child we learned that the Doctor was found and just naturally had the ability to regenerate, and the race that would become Gallifreyans studied her, and took what they learned to create the ability to regenerate in themselves... but there's no actual limitation as far as we know on the Doctor as they have lived a LOT of lives more than the ones the Doctor knew about.
@@LuckDragonLair Wait do you think "The Doctor had legitimately ran out on Tranzalore and was going to die" was retconned by anything? Because there hasn't been anything since that's contradicted it at all
@@carrot708 I think he believed he was going to die, and the time lords "granted" him new regenerations so he wouldn't find out that he didn't depend on them and they had been lying and manipulating him since before they wiped his memory and forcibly regenerated him to a child, which was the start of what he thought was his life.
@The Adopted Whovian I don't think that's something that could be taken away, maybe supresssed, I think that is why they had to wipe the Doctor's mind, at least one of the reasons, so they didn't know they were passed the limit. There's been zero evidence that it was removed, though it could in fact have been supressed with the chameleon arch that's true but there's no evidencve of that and nowhere does it say they took away anything so both our theories are completely guessing :) And no Galifreyan's can't regenerate, that's something that only full fledged time lords are given the ability to do... Rassilon claimed to have invented it, but now we know that was a lie.
I have a theory that the reason we get tennant again is because whoever NPH is playing (my money is on the celestial toy maker)wants revenge on an old doctor and managed to during a regeneration brought an old face to get revenge on but because one of the only doctors to not accept the change was coming was tennant, he’s risen back to the surface.
How many actors can say he played the 10th doctor the human doctor and now the 14th doctor so happy his back you can never get rid of the master and the 15th doctor looks good at the end of the episode which you never watched you have missed a load there 3 special s with David then hello 15 or 16 because the 9 th doctor was the war doctor
That was a superb episode to an era I've really, really enjoyed. I've been a fan of the show for 40 years and seeing so many loving reference to Classic Who made my heart and soar and made me shed many tears. Lovely reaction :)
Too soon, I agree. I enjoyed what we got, but I feel like we didn't REALLY get to see Jodi's full potential as the Doctor. I love how full of joy this version was, too. I get the feeling she really lived the advice that 12 had for her.
Even the people who hated the Jodie era, like me, never had a problem with Jodie, but had a huge problem with the writing. This was a wise move by Davies to bring back the fans that had abandoned the series, like me.
24:43 : Forced regeneration. Master says the They did it to the Doctor Once. It's the Second Doctor to Third Doctor. You can search RUclips to see his regeneration.
When Ncuti Gatwa becomes The Doctor next year you will have to see his 3 years or more in the role. You will probably feel the same with his regeneration.
She's been the Doctor for around 5yrs now, which feels like the longest anyone's held the role in nuWho and yet the stupid BBC gave her the least amount of episodes. It's crazy
@@johnking5174 yeah I don't know about 11 and especially 12, but I did hear that Russell was talking to Jodie. She might make a cameo in the 60th and maybe also come back if RTD decides to do a 20th anniversary story for the modern show, in 2025
Jodie is definately gone im afraid :'( but i do think the whole David Tennant thing is a trick and the new guy is the real next Doctor. This is not the first time that the clothes regenerated along with the face it also happened with The First Doctor regenerating into The Second Doctor.
Actually no, it's not a trick. David Tennant is officially announced as the 14th Doctor. He will be there for 3 Specials in November, for the 60th anniversary, then Ncuti Gatwa will become the 15th doctor after that.
What do you mean , there's no special reason for this to be broadcast in October? This WAS made for a special occasion - the 100th anniversary of the BBC in October 2022.
jodie’s era sucked i’m so happy to have david tennant back i can actually watch the show again. David Tennant is back for doctor who’s 60th birthday for 3 episodes then Ncuti gatwa takes over. Doctor who was nearly cancelled because of jodie and her poor ratings if RTD and David Tennant hadn’t come back there would be No show. it would have ended with her. There should never have been a female doctor the only timelord that should be female is the master as mis that worked. ive watched doctor who since the 3rd doctors incarnation Jon Pertwee though i prefer Tom Baker. Jodie killed the show for me i stopped watching because of her. Nu who David Tennant is and always will be my doctor and i’ve never screamed so loud as when she regenerated to him. i wish it was more than three episodes though. Did you know more people tuned into watch tennant’s return than watched her final episode. That’s how bad her era was. I’m looking forward to the future of doctor who with David Tennant and Ncuti Gatwa taking over. Roll on november 2023 till it’s back with quality actors and storytelling. take care🏴😘
You mentioned female timelords, how about Romana or Susan having their own series? I would have been cool with that instead, even Sarah Jane had her own series.
This is the perfect example of how to include past Doctors without making it a multi Doctor story.
Loved how they bookended Jodie's run - both her first and last episodes began with her landing on a train.
Thanks for the reaction!
Don't worry, a LOT of people are saying this was the best Jodie episode, I agree - best by far!
When the Doctor wakes up in the TARDIS, with yaz at the console, it's like the inversion of the scene with Rose and Eccleston
Exactly what I felt when I first watched it
it was part of the 100 years of the BBC celebrations, lovely reaction, thanks
As an old classic Who viewer it saddens me that what we would call a Special Episode is being dismissed by some NuWho viewers as "fan service". SMH.
@@anonagain some people just do not want to be happy
“Now, Brave Heart” is the exact spot I got teary eyed. Peter Davison was the Doctor when I started watching, and the first episode I remember is the one that Tegan left
Ditto!
and how when he said "missed you too" it was more clear
This Special is the 100th Centenury of the BBC. That's what they're celebrating.
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@@rizkiputra_real888 Hi.
@@gamegeek812 can you ask him to do ultraman stuff?
This might be the best regeneration story to date. And I'll even say, it might even be better than the 50th, for me, at least.
This was a special to celebrate 100 years of the BBC
Yeh, it was a fantastic episode, I really loved it. It was sooo good.
Omlllll I have never seen something as iconic as someone using a Wii U gamepad to show a reaction, that is pure genius
I'm glad she kept her ending short and sweet. Capaldi, as much as I loved him, had a speech that went on for what seemed like forever.
I see it like character development. To an extent 10,11, and 12 all made their regenerations deep and heavy. I count 10 because of his whole visiting past companions section. It wasnt wordy but it meant the same thing. 13 had the knowledge to know her existence wasnt finite and from her run the idea of her regenerating with few words and the idea of it being ok to pass it on with grace was a great character progression
He was espousing all of his feelings on what the next Doctor SHOULD be. What his Doctor had to 'relearn' from his reset and regeneration. It showed his character growth.
Unfortunately, I never felt like the 13th Doctor ever really embodied those qualities. She never felt like "The Doctor" to me. Much of it was the really terrible writing, of course, but I also felt like Jodie's acting never felt like more than...acting. So everything always felt superficial and so many of her decisions didn't make any sense at all. There was never a moment with her where I felt like "that's the Doctor" like I did with all of the Doctors previous. And having all of these classic Doctors and former companions in this episode only made it more clear how much she did not feel like the character.
I'm hoping with this bridge Doctor and a better writer at the help will help to redeem the series and keep it from the chopping block...again.
@@sj4iy I honestly found this whole thing misogynistic. The Doctor has never given a speech like this before to the next Doctor but as soon as we're going to have the first woman Doctor, this guy goes on a ten minute diatribe about how she should act and be. It's kinda BS and is one of the few stains on Peter Capaldi as the Doctor as far as I am concerned.
@@andrewpelletier7921 Oh get off it. No matter who the Doctor is, he/she/it/they should ALWAYS embody those qualities..and if they don't, they are not the Doctor. That's why Jodie never truly became the Doctor...the writing constantly failed to find the actual heart of the character and she was a shallow, pale imitation. It has NOTHING to do with gender at all...had the Doctor been male, they would have had the exact same problem. There's nothing misogynistic about it.
Also, have you even watched Doctor Who? Because the Doctor tells people what they should do all the fucking time. Including other Doctors. What about the classic doctors in the finale telling her what she should do? Why is that not misogynistic? Under your terrible misunderstood definition of misogyny, it would be.
I'm sorry, but it such a ridiculous take. It was Moffat's last episode as showrunner and he wanted his last Doctor to go out the way he felt proper. That's all...if you read anything else into it, especially anything about gender, you're mistaken.
@@andrewpelletier7921 I don't think it's misogynistic at all… this is just Steven Moffat being Steven Moffat. He's all about his long, drawn out monologues and excessive wordiness. It's not unique to Capaldi, as Matt Smith had to give this whole speech about how everyone changes throughout their lives prior to sneezing into Twelve. The Capaldi speech was more or less just Moffat's way of saying goodbye to the audience, as these were the last few moments of his writing before Chibnall took over with Jodie.
And I agree with you… Capaldi's regeneration was excessively wordy, and I didn't care for that quality of Moffat's writing at all. RTD was a lot better at using powerful imagery (Doomsday and Ten's regeneration being a great examples of this) with little to no dialogue. I just wouldn't call it "misogynistic."
David Tennant being back as the Doctor is the perfect combination of old Doctor Who + modern Doctor Who. I cant wait to see him performing with all the possibilities this show has these days.
Back when he was Doctor Who, the studio had much fewer funds and options.
The master used the excuse that he wanted to ruin the Doctor's good name, but I think he just wanted to be the "special" one with unlimited regenerations because he couldn't stand the doctor having something special he couldn't.
The 13 limit isn't a purely biological thing for any Time Lord. It's imposed. And Time Lords can just give people new cycles whenever they want. The Doctor still has the 13 regen limit, just like the Master has. Sacha is the 4th incarnation of the Master's current cycle and Jodie is the 3rd incarnation of the Doctor's current cycle
@@carrot708 The doctor THOUGHT they had been granted 13 like other time lords, and the time lords did everything to make him think he did, but in Timeless child we learned that the Doctor was found and just naturally had the ability to regenerate, and the race that would become Gallifreyans studied her, and took what they learned to create the ability to regenerate in themselves... but there's no actual limitation as far as we know on the Doctor as they have lived a LOT of lives more than the ones the Doctor knew about.
@@LuckDragonLair Wait do you think "The Doctor had legitimately ran out on Tranzalore and was going to die" was retconned by anything? Because there hasn't been anything since that's contradicted it at all
@@carrot708 I think he believed he was going to die, and the time lords "granted" him new regenerations so he wouldn't find out that he didn't depend on them and they had been lying and manipulating him since before they wiped his memory and forcibly regenerated him to a child, which was the start of what he thought was his life.
@The Adopted Whovian I don't think that's something that could be taken away, maybe supresssed, I think that is why they had to wipe the Doctor's mind, at least one of the reasons, so they didn't know they were passed the limit. There's been zero evidence that it was removed, though it could in fact have been supressed with the chameleon arch that's true but there's no evidencve of that and nowhere does it say they took away anything so both our theories are completely guessing :) And no Galifreyan's can't regenerate, that's something that only full fledged time lords are given the ability to do... Rassilon claimed to have invented it, but now we know that was a lie.
I have a theory that the reason we get tennant again is because whoever NPH is playing (my money is on the celestial toy maker)wants revenge on an old doctor and managed to during a regeneration brought an old face to get revenge on but because one of the only doctors to not accept the change was coming was tennant, he’s risen back to the surface.
Love the Wii U just chilling there =)
How many actors can say he played the 10th doctor the human doctor and now the 14th doctor so happy his back you can never get rid of the master and the 15th doctor looks good at the end of the episode which you never watched you have missed a load there 3 special s with David then hello 15 or 16 because the 9 th doctor was the war doctor
What if 14 turns out to be the valiyard and that's why he's only in one special before regenerating into 15
@@whofactchecksthefactcheckers I'm pretty sure he's confirmed for 3 specials
That was a superb episode to an era I've really, really enjoyed. I've been a fan of the show for 40 years and seeing so many loving reference to Classic Who made my heart and soar and made me shed many tears. Lovely reaction :)
Too soon, I agree. I enjoyed what we got, but I feel like we didn't REALLY get to see Jodi's full potential as the Doctor. I love how full of joy this version was, too. I get the feeling she really lived the advice that 12 had for her.
Even the people who hated the Jodie era, like me, never had a problem with Jodie, but had a huge problem with the writing. This was a wise move by Davies to bring back the fans that had abandoned the series, like me.
the regeneration with the clothes haas been done before between the first and second doctors
24:43 : Forced regeneration. Master says the They did it to the Doctor Once. It's the Second Doctor to Third Doctor. You can search RUclips to see his regeneration.
you mean 1st to 2nd, we never saw 2nd to 3rd
@@julieeverett7442 ruclips.net/video/XjIZPl3ABXo/видео.html
@@julieeverett7442 So..? Convinced now ;) ?
@@SmithDoe youre right, yes
When Ncuti Gatwa becomes The Doctor next year you will have to see his 3 years or more in the role. You will probably feel the same with his regeneration.
Also... I'd totally ship Graham and Ace ;) Love it!
I assumed that's where they were going!
She's been the Doctor for around 5yrs now, which feels like the longest anyone's held the role in nuWho and yet the stupid BBC gave her the least amount of episodes. It's crazy
Covid happened. That’s why.
@@MrChiddler exactly. Wasn’t Flux meant to have more episodes? I would love to see how things would’ve went if it did.
10th had 5 years as well
Fun reaction :) Might wanna update the Thumbnail to fix the typo :) Not that it really matters I guess LOL
According to Chibnall he couldn't include the other nuWho Doctors because of something Russell is doing with all that next year
Yes, I have heard the plans for the 11th, 12th and possibly a very quick cameo from the 13th in the 60th anniversary specials.
@@johnking5174 yeah I don't know about 11 and especially 12, but I did hear that Russell was talking to Jodie. She might make a cameo in the 60th and maybe also come back if RTD decides to do a 20th anniversary story for the modern show, in 2025
Jodie is definately gone im afraid :'( but i do think the whole David Tennant thing is a trick and the new guy is the real next Doctor.
This is not the first time that the clothes regenerated along with the face it also happened with The First Doctor regenerating into The Second Doctor.
Actually no, it's not a trick. David Tennant is officially announced as the 14th Doctor. He will be there for 3 Specials in November, for the 60th anniversary, then Ncuti Gatwa will become the 15th doctor after that.
you missed out the teaser trailer at the end
Yes, David Tennent is the 14th DOCTOR
What do you mean , there's no special reason for this to be broadcast in October? This WAS made for a special occasion - the 100th anniversary of the BBC in October 2022.
*spoiler*
The doctor remembers that fighting hand lol 🤣
jodie’s era sucked i’m so happy to have david tennant back i can actually watch the show again. David Tennant is back for doctor who’s 60th birthday for 3 episodes then Ncuti gatwa takes over. Doctor who was nearly cancelled because of jodie and her poor ratings if RTD and David Tennant hadn’t come back there would be No show. it would have ended with her. There should never have been a female doctor the only timelord that should be female is the master as mis that worked. ive watched doctor who since the 3rd doctors incarnation Jon Pertwee though i prefer Tom Baker. Jodie killed the show for me i stopped watching because of her. Nu who David Tennant is and always will be my doctor and i’ve never screamed so loud as when she regenerated to him. i wish it was more than three episodes though. Did you know more people tuned into watch tennant’s return than watched her final episode. That’s how bad her era was. I’m looking forward to the future of doctor who with David Tennant and Ncuti Gatwa taking over. Roll on november 2023 till it’s back with quality actors and storytelling. take care🏴😘
You mentioned female timelords, how about Romana or Susan having their own series? I would have been cool with that instead, even Sarah Jane had her own series.
Crying over this shit.... seriously
She was the worst doctor and will be forgotten.