it's exactly like Dex said 'Blaze o' Glory' or 'Quiet life'. Its so depressing to see V fade away into the crowd with next to nothing from the past to console him.
My ending I thought was very bittersweet. My V got cured like this ending, but I did all of the side missions, gigs, and helped a LOT of people. Sure, he isn't going to be a legend, but a lot of people will remember him for his services I would think. He chose the quiet life before going out in a blaze of glory.
Lol I got the same I found that hilarious that even at the lasztending, created 3 years after the originale release, there is still a nasty bug on the last fucking chunk of game 😂
Man, this was hard to watch. A lot of the characters sounded depressed, no anger, no malice, it's sad seeing everyone moving on in this game while the main character was in a coma. It resonates a lot with me and my life at this point, minus the coma part. The part with Panam really hurts the most because it wasn't V's fault at all. This game seems to have gone a very depressing and self reflecting path compared to the one it took three years ago. Cyberpunk with forever hold a place near and dear to me.
Dexter 'Dex' DeShawn: Would you rather live in peace as Mr. Nobody, die ripe, old and smelling slightly of urine? Or go down for all times in a blaze of glory, smelling near like posies, without seeing your thirtieth?
Well in the "star ending" with panam and judy V gets to life as well. In the end credits Misty showed V her cards on the holo and they were positive, meaning that V and the aldecados most likely found a cure.
Every ending answers DeShawn's question. "Blaze of Glory or Quiet Life?" This ending is the quiet life, at least until V gets zeroed by a random cyberpsycho or gang, like most chooms in NC.
Painfull to see how Johnny ends like this. The entire game you focus on getting him out, and in the end you realize you are killing a friend. Next playthrough i'm gonna storm arasaka again, for Johnny
Imo this is a very good ending and pretty realistic. I also think that V and Panam (if you chose to romance her) will eventually be together again. V and Panam as a romance built a very strong bond as she is very hard to get as a couple. Think about it, Panam was surrounded by dudes for years and stayed single until she met V so she doesn't really sleep around or get into serious relationships often, specially now that she became a co leader of her nomad clan which demands her to hold an even more respectable image among its members and 2 years is not even that long of a time. The corpos will continue their own natural cycles and V retires from a life of killing in order to become a more down to earth human being. There's also the chance that V is stronger than the average person similar to David Martinez and the other Cyber Psychos, I mean he is a main character after all so he could eventually recover and keep going in that sort of story arch. Johnny Silverhand was not alive anyway, you were dealing with a digitally stored consciousness AI since day 1, it was never real, his soul was gone the minute he died back then that's why the process of doing that (extracting someone's consciousness) is called "soul killer". For those that think that everyone else has moved on, you got to remember that most of V's contacts were prominent organized crime/underground figures and it would be normal that they constantly change their numbers and locations. Judy is just Judy, she always seemed very emotional and childish to me.
So mi is real ending from phantom liberty arc after that you can do the johnny mission myers Reed are bad they hold so mi as a slave Johnny's ending with roque are the real ending of v she get killed like she deserved betrayed johnny
Imo this is a very good ending and pretty realistic. I also think that V and Panam (if you chose to romance her) will eventually be together again. V and Panam as a romance built a very strong bond as she is very hard to get as a couple. Think about it, Panam was surrounded by dudes for years and stayed single until she met V so she doesn't really sleep around or get into serious relationships often, specially now that she became a co leader of her nomad clan which demands her to hold an even more respectable image among its members and 2 years is not even that long of a time. The corpos will continue their own natural cycles and V retires from a life of killing in order to become a more down to earth human being. There's also the chance that V is stronger than the average person similar to David Martinez and the other Cyber Psychos, I mean he is a main character after all so he could eventually recover and keep going in that sort of story arch. Johnny Silverhand was not alive anyway, you were dealing with a digitally stored consciousness AI since day 1, it was never real, his soul was gone the minute he died back then that's why the process of doing that (extracting someone's consciousness) is called "soul killer". For those that think that everyone else has moved on, you got to remember that most of V's contacts were prominent organized crime/underground figures and it would be normal that they constantly change their numbers and locations. Judy is just Judy, she always seemed very emotional and childish to me.
I don't really think V wanted exactly this. He/her wanted to continue his merc path, but it's biochip in his head and fear of imminent death made him raise above his/her own own limits and make the impossible.
Aside from his arm along with minor implants, Morgan Blackhand was mostly meat and able to take on a borged out Adam Smasher. V still has the potential to be a legend
@@Tsumefan2Morgan Blackhand is the one who Adam Smasher considered his chief rival. The general consensus among the CP2077 community is that what we see in Johnny’s memories is unreliable and Alt tells us this herself. It’s believed that Johnny died in that room and the later rooftop scene was Morgan Blackhand but Johnny had inserted himself in Blackhand’s place.
Morgan Blackhand was still equipped with intensive combat implants and had a sandevistan. He wasn't a total machine like Smasher but he was about as implanted as a typical edgerunner.
@@cipher7584He was one shot, shot right in half hips seperated from his torso. He never got hit by an explosion, then chased out. It was also. Spider that retreived his remains, but I'm still not sure if it was Arasaka that soul killer'd him to look for who his team was, or spider soul killer'd him.
Logical how Night City and Cyberpunk universe is not considered Utopia, but Dystopia, so even the 'good' ending we all were waiting for, is a depressive one.
I know one story that makes Night City & the Cyberpunk universe look like a utopia… I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream. That story is pitch black, & I dare you to read it. Even the ending makes this ending look like a Disney esque happy ending.
What's funny is that while V is shot as a main character, they could be a pretty good Fixer in a world about to be overrun by Rogue AI infiltrating people's minds.
Imo this is a very good ending and pretty realistic. I also think that V and Panam (if you chose to romance her) will eventually be together again. V and Panam as a romance built a very strong bond as she is very hard to get as a couple. Think about it, Panam was surrounded by dudes for years and stayed single until she met V so she doesn't really sleep around or get into serious relationships often, specially now that she became a co leader of her nomad clan which demands her to hold an even more respectable image among its members and 2 years is not even that long of a time. The corpos will continue their own natural cycles and V retires from a life of killing in order to become a more down to earth human being. There's also the chance that V is stronger than the average person similar to David Martinez and the other Cyber Psychos, I mean he is a main character after all so he could eventually recover and keep going in that sort of story arch. Johnny Silverhand was not alive anyway, you were dealing with a digitally stored consciousness AI since day 1, it was never real, his soul was gone the minute he died back then that's why the process of doing that (extracting someone's consciousness) is called "soul killer". For those that think that everyone else has moved on, you got to remember that most of V's contacts were prominent organized crime/underground figures and it would be normal that they constantly change their numbers and locations. Judy is just Judy, she always seemed very emotional and childish to me.
Nope. Way too many enemies. Fixers are neutral, background characters who avoid upsetting the applecart at all costs. V has massacred every gang in NC, interfered with high level politics and painted very large targets on his back.
While I could definitely see it especially for a street kid V he just simply doesn't have the reputation needed to be one. Whatever rep you do build up prior to the coma is quickly forgotten and without implants there's just no way V would ever be able to regain it and get in that line of work again
"You reach a certain age you drop all your illusions, life just gets simpler from there. I'll never be a legend in this city, but been sleeping nights ever since."
@@theelectricprince8231 yep until you forget that V made enemies of most of the gangs, and that NC is the most dangerous city probably in fiction. Have you keep up with NC News? Gun vending machines, Bodycount loteries, Davids mom, getting a cure just to die to sum street bum, pathetic, blaze of glory for me.
But the real ending is help so mi and do the coup like promised with johnny so nobody dies only the bad ones Reed is bad smasher bad and good ones still alive only roque for betrayer got smashed
V might not have told them, and he wasn't in a state to tell them. Honestly, the fact that they didn't deep dive into his relations implies V just got the standard American Healthcare Experience. No contact listed? then we make no contact
I wish v had a longer, more honest conversation with Panam first. Maybe called, explained the situation and that he will be cured, but will have to undergo a procedure where he may be comatose, maybe for longer than expected. Maybe she would still be in touch after the fact, maybe not. But there would be more closure
the only person i liked was that kerry was willing to hang out after his concert on the crystal palace and viktor was also willing to hang everyone else threw v away like scopstand coffee
Your true friends stick with you no matter how long you’re gone for. Vik and Kerry both at least remember and Kerry was willing to help you out if you needed it. At the end of the day your real friends are always there for you
I'd like to add that Judy deserves some credit too( if you did not romance her/remain friends). I understand her not wanting to help V given that her Pyramid Song quest line is specifically about her bidding you farewell and wanting to leave Night City. Her hesitation on helping out V is her refusing to relieve all the trauma she experienced in NC all over again. Yet, she remains a friend by extending an invitation to V for a drink when V drops by Pittsburgh for a visit. That's heaps better than nothing.
@brotherhoodofsteel98 I honestly think this ending sucks. All V had to do was give Reed Panams number or told her where he was going in case things went sour, which was a very high possibility. V kinda deserves the shit panam give him
@@blanexblaze6510agreed. for being such a methodical merc he kinda flubs the details with all his friends. the closest of them dont mind because they're family, but with the rest of the friends you make during the story, they only know them for, what, less than 6 months?
@@AlbanianThrash Gotta blame yourself instead of actually putting a value on your relationships. Remember V saved these peoples lives and changed them. Thats no simple 6 month friend and this is what they think of them when they finally found a way to cure themselves from death. No one cares about V's condition except for a select few. And you may not believe it but one of them is songbird.
Riding off into the sunset with panam is my favorite ending granted v only has 6-9 months left to live but he has love and a family the Aldecaldos he found happiness at the end
This ending is very a hard blow to me. My playthrough was 93 hours, all that toil, decisions and sacrificing Johnny was for a big naught, it wasn't getting your life back, it was just deleting yourself with Johnny! And how everyone turns you down, how you are just something that's an afterthought in everyone's life, how you are a nobody is just bonechilling. Vic stands up for you, but even he is not Victor you know from beginning of all this, he too is a corpo slave, depressed and just pretends things are fine. The loneliness, V being a shade of herself, are just painful to watch. Yeah sure, V is cured, she has a life to look for. But what sort of life? That's just ambigious
Bro, I just started reading the book, and I immediately thought of this ending. I'm three chapters in,so far. The similarities between neuromancer and cyberpunk are jarring. Both protagonists have nerve damage, which prevents them from doing the things they love. They even use terms like "street samurai," cyberdeck, cyberspace, etc.
@@nukefuel6757Wait till you get to the sequel book Count Zero. Theres even Voodoo Boys and fun spy shootouts like Phantom Liberty. (Thats the best of the trilogy imo)
@@junioraltamontent.7582 Sorry man, but nah. The closest thing to the "beginning" of the genre was the novel "Do androids dream of electric sheep?", released in 1968. That book was the original inspiration for Blade Runner, which released 2 years before Neuromancer. As for the formation of the genre, it's kinda funny what happened. Gibson started writing Neuromancer before Blade Runner released, and he was devastated when it came out because he thought everyone would think he ripped it off. Then Mike Pondsmith, the creator of Cyberpunk, hadn't actually read Neuromancer before writing the first Cyberpunk stories.
@Vernir-de4yv Whether you like it or not, Cyberpunk as a genre has always been nihilistic, depressing and hopeless, with small bits of hope thrown in there to not make it too miserable.
@Vernir-de4yvDamn it’s almost like Cyberpunk is a very different genre to the world of the Witcher and the Witcher games aren’t canon to the source material like 2077 is. Not every story has a happy ending and if you expected one from the world of Night City you clearly don’t understand the setting. It’d be like asking a 40k game to end with every faction finding peace.
They just need to add an ending where V and Johnny just say fuck it we ball and try to both hop back in the body at the same time and mix into V Silverhand
V's closest & truest in NC are Viktor (BFF) and Misty (sister, like). Panam, Aldecaldos, all that family talk were BS & hollow. Hell even Takemura gave V a better farewell talk than them. And Judy was felt close but distant.
right? they're them out yo be ur family and family means everything to us and made Panam to be a im just happy ur here and well in fact they showed her to honestly PREFER him not to be in danger so this ending is just bs. this whouldnt have ended like this if they stuck to the script. but they tried their best to make it seem like a bad ending tbh.
The tower could have been WAY worse. First time I played the ending, I legit thought those thugs would just stab V and leave them to bleed out on the street, alone and broken. Maybe we'd even get some heartbreaking 'last sunrise' bs before (presumably, gotta keeps things 'open') going flatline.
I don't know why V didn't call his friends and loved ones to tell them he would have a surgery to cure himself and he could be out for a while, it's what any person would do, i think,.
I'll never be a legend in the city, I can live with that, some might think standing at the top, the... "blaze of glory" as they say? Will be better... nah, its just a lie we tell ourselves that keeps us going, blaze of glory never existed, its the same empty feeling, the end of an adventure. So don't feel bad for V, he lives, he didn't "fade into the crowd" he was always a part of it. same then, same now. 2.0 was beautiful. gave me an ending I waited for. Thankyou CDPR.
Man did I get hit. Haven’t felt like this since Bioshock Infinite’s closing scene. Here I am, desperate to pick up pieces and build a C.A.G.E fiction one-shot. I will say, though, that Phantom Liberty *does* prove that V can be cured, albeit at significant cost by the time the FIA rolls around. Which means in hindsight, it isn’t even “too late” for the more ambiguous endings. We’re still left quite open to Mr. Blue Eyes, and Panam’s endings. That’s the beauty of Cyberpunk, though. Contemplation, speculation- some stories are much more finite than others, but there is hope to be had for those who won’t quit fighting.
I know that a lot of people see this ending as just bleak and depressing, but in truth it is the most hopeful and 'grounded ending. At least for V. Waking up after two years to find your old life and most of your friends gone would push anyone into an emotional breakdown. It's a real gut punch. It is just human to feel like everything is lost and all your sacrifices were for nothing, even if there is hope left. And there is a lot of hope in this ending. V is finally cured for good and has more than enough time to build up a new life. This isn't the first time for V to hit rock bottom in life, as this is a core part of the prologue for every life path. Also, since she didn't rely on Alt's 'help', V has not been soulkilled and remains her true self. (I feel like people tend to ignore the implications of this in most of the popular endings) V also doesn't really lose all her friends and connections. Keep in mind that V met most of them over a span of only a few weeks, maybe two or three months at most. And they always knew V was dying. They all obviously cared for V and were heartbroken by her presumed death. They had to move with their lifes. But her old friends like Vic and Misty were still there for her. And Kerry immediately offers V any help he can provide and promises to meet with her asap, despite being in the middle of a tour in space. If it took V just a few weeks to make new friends while running from death, she will quickly meet new friends again now. V's physical condition is also exceptionally good for someone who just awoke from years of coma. There is no time skip between waking up and leaving for NC, which means V hasn't received any physical therapy or other treatment before leaving. The loss of cyberware compatibility is probably the hardest part for V, as it means V's Edgerunner career is over. Yes, people can achieve a lot without chrome and there are enough examples within the game to prove it, but you just won't last long as a top-level merc. Still, V has both the experience and the skills to become a highly effective fighter again once fully recovered from the coma. At least one capable enough to survive most low level threats out on the streets. And considering what awaits the world in the near future, it may be a very fortunate thing for V to no longer rely on implantats... There are endless opportunities for V to build a new life now, meet new people and maybe even get back into the business as fixer or a specialist merc. V knows how NC works and while a lot has changed in two years, the rules are always the same. It wouldn't take long to sort out what has changed, who's in charge now and what's going in the city, especially since V could easily turn to close contacts like Rogue or Mr Hands for help here.
@WouldYouKindlyGWAR There're hints throughout the game and PL that the rogue AIs beyond the blackwall are preparing for an invasion to overthrow humanity. Look up the lore and theories around Mr Blue Eyes / NightCorp. There's a lot going on behind the scenes.
I'd actually argue that the Star ending is more hopeful, that hope just isn't as overt as this ending. There are a lot of little clues that hint at V's fate in the Star that people have picked up over the years. For starters, one of Panam's contacts is almost definitely StormTech, who specializes in nanotechnology and other fields that could certainly help V. Misty's Tarot reading also sounds way too hopeful for someone to be dying in 6 months, and her readings are always accurate. Finally, next to the Basilisk is a datashard containing an excerpt from The Iliad that I would highly recommend looking up. It basically spells out the likely outcome for V, especially when paired with the final cutscene. I'd also like to add that I do firmly believe that V is still themselves after Mikoshi. Engrams are less like clones and more like a blueprint the biochip gives to the brain. It is effectively brainwashing, this is what Hellman was alluding to in the hotel. Johnny was never there, he was really just a split personality being forced onto V's brain, converting it. Every instance of V and Johnny interacting is just V's brain processing this change. This would also mean that Johnny in the Temperance ending is really just a version of V believing they are Johnny. Any ending that has V's engram take over is basically just the brain swapping blueprints. The Tower ending is ultimately the only one where we actually get to see V live, but a few other endings imply a similar fate for V down the road.
@@yarhar9732 Good point. I'll definitely look into it again when I do another playthrough some day. I've heard people claim that the star was hopeful for V's future, but as far as I knew it was mostly based on Misty's Tarot. I always thought help from Panam's contacts was mostly wishful thinking by people who just wanted a happy ending. When it comes to the nature of engrams (and by extention Soulkiller), this is one of the most fascinating topics in the game imo. The nature of consciousness and the blurring of the line between technology and the human mind is a such classic theme of the cyberpunk genre. I don't think we can say anything for certain, but you've raised a good point for a more hopeful view on it.
I’m not mad at this ending it feels real and mature AF compared to the tone of the rest of the game. But to be honest with you, this is actually pretty deep and insightful. With me being moved away from home for almost 3 years now. Sometimes I try to reach back for reminders of who I was to find some comfort and perhaps confidence in this new life. Only to Find…something…else…damn near everyone who I thought of as a friend have become either faint acquaintances of memory or simply not there…distant.it’s a different kind of loneliness…it makes me afraid to go back sometimes it sucks…. But what choices do I have other than to accept reality if I am to guide myself to the life that I want? I’m sure I’m not the only one who this ending struck accord with lol. Thusly I find this to be far more relatable than anything else in the whole game and the fact that they thought to put something like this in there makes me respect the game more.. I’m not picking this ending though!🤣🤣🤣🤣
i choose this ending, because it remind me what dexter ask to me in the beginning of heist mission, and i choose quiet life. in the end, only Misty and Vic who still keep in touch with V, like the beginning of the game, it just V, jackie, misty and Vic, so it should end like this. maybe V just become "nobody" in the end, but yeah, i think thats meaning of the "quiet life"
I don’t mind this ending to be honest. V has to grow beyond who he originally started at and chart a new course in life and that’s ok. It doesn’t mean he has to live some depressing life and that it’s ruined it just means things are different
Brooo I don’t get how pam can be so mad at v when she knew he was tryna get cured tht doesn’t even make sense…. Cyberpunk can’t be this sad mane 😭 v can’t catch a break
So this set up for the story of cyberpunk orion considering that arasaka is on its knees even if v dosnet atrck ther tower leaving millitech or kang Tao to take over but I think a new character would work for the next game the fia is beascly the cia and fbi combine in the universe I love to see how they expand the lore in future cyberpunk games
I imagined my V as the one who wants to get cured and live at any cost, since that's the whole point of the main story. Seeing V become a nobody, left alone by everyone he cared about, took a giant toll on me. I loaded a different save and busted my way into Arasaka Tower as Johnny, again. Then I returned to body as V. I think it's the best ending for my concept of the character. I can only accept Phantom Liberty ending for my V if it's considered a canon and he becomes a fixer in a sequel.
@Garland846lol you think you'll ever return to earth after that? You are a saka lab rat until you flatline being fed false hope so the corpo scientists don't get the results skewed. If v goes to sakas facility, they will never set foot on earth again. You can believe that
Imo this is a very good ending and pretty realistic. I also think that V and Panam (if you chose to romance her) will eventually be together again. V and Panam as a romance built a very strong bond as she is very hard to get as a couple. Think about it, Panam was surrounded by dudes for years and stayed single until she met V so she doesn't really sleep around or get into serious relationships often, specially now that she became a co leader of her nomad clan which demands her to hold an even more respectable image among its members and 2 years is not even that long of a time. The corpos will continue their own natural cycles and V retires from a life of killing in order to become a more down to earth human being. There's also the chance that V is stronger than the average person similar to David Martinez and the other Cyber Psychos, I mean he is a main character after all so he could eventually recover and keep going in that sort of story arch. Johnny Silverhand was not alive anyway, you were dealing with a digitally stored consciousness AI since day 1, it was never real, his soul was gone the minute he died back then that's why the process of doing that (extracting someone's consciousness) is called "soul killer". For those that think that everyone else has moved on, you got to remember that most of V's contacts were prominent organized crime/underground figures and it would be normal that they constantly change their numbers and locations. Judy is just Judy, she always seemed very emotional and childish to me.
@@fugedaboudit I think you make a great point about ngrams. Johnny is indeed dead, and V also dies the moment she reaches Mikoshi. This is the only ending where she really survives. But bleaching Johnny, even if it’s an ngram, and giving up unconscious So Mi is too hight price to pay for survival imo. In a bleak situation where V and Johnny find themselves, the best thing they can do is make sure their friends are getting a chance to survive night city and find new home. Still, V and Johnny deserve better.
Live the quiet life or die in a blaze of glory. We’ve finally been given the chance to so the former. To survive, at the cost of our hopes and aspirations
After that ending i’m too depressed to uninstall the game leaving things that way… My final play through, im gonna send somgbird to the moon, storm saka tower with Johnny, send him off with Alt and go up to crystal palace and die a Night City legend… … I’d rather V live up to his full potential rather than waste away with panam, she neglects you when she becomes chief so theres no point in going with them, besides she treats you pretty bad in the cured V ending so fuck her…. My last play through will be for Johnny… it just doesn’t get any better than that…. BLAZE OF GLORY…. Then im putting the game down, never to play again!
If you maxed out Johnny's relationship with V before starting this ending, the ending becomes even more bittersweet when Johnny is willing to go so you can live (iirc)
The small thing i didnt like in this ending is how they made V helpless against a random gonk. As if V would not keep its weapons and martial skills. Even corpo v punked a couple of thugs on the lizzy's roof with no combat implants
V's been in a coma for years with his neurons fried and muscles decayed. Sadly even if his body somehow remembered his attacks, they might not even be able to stun basic thugs
And as for the weapons. According to an email, since V didn't pay their rent in for their apartment (canonically the only one they have) all of Vs stuff was sold off
prolly one of the most bitter sweet endings ... v loses all of their netrunner cyber samurai teleport kill boom pow bang powers and becomes nothing but a wandering npc... welp! atleast u get to live out the rest of ur life retired, jhonny is gone, the relic's damage wont shorten ur lifespan. but u did kinda give up mercing. atleast u got friends to help out. ALL GONE, LOST. ALMOST AS IF IT WAS ALL IN VEIN. BUT AT LAST, FREEDOM OF LIFE. WITHOUT THE PLAGUE OF THE RELIC HAUNTING YOU. you once were an npc. became a bigshot. then back to an npc. like before you and jackie stole the relic. from none, to all, back to none.
At least V didn’t die. And frankly I’m okay with this ending. It didn’t depress me at all. It’s a breath of fresh air over the repetitive “you’re always gonna die” formula of the other endings. Now if you really want to know a story & its ending that makes Cyberpunk 2077 & all of its endings look like a G rated Disney movie, I got 8 words for you… I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream. That story is pitch black, & I dare anyone who’s disturbed by Cyberpunk to read it.
The cure ending felt like perfect ending for Vs story when I played thru but also felt very bittersweet as you feel liberated and you’re still alive yet only a shell of your former self. As someone going thru depression and recently losing a lot this ending really hit in the feels when I first played it when it came out
Well you loose everything for the cure. Your relationships, your gear and skills. Even the pendent that Misty gives you from the bullet you’re shot by. It’s like you’re alive, but at what cost.
This ending is so ambiguous I love it. Cyberpunk really gives you a wide perspective on things where every actions are not fully good either bad. This game's story really gives you place to think.
It’s also technically not possible. We literally can’t play a fully ganic V, since he starts pretty noticeably chromed up. A “ganic” playthrough is essentially running with old/basic chrome, which still puts you beyond a regular person.
The movement speed. THE MOVEMENT SPEED! The only thing that bothered me starting out. I sunk 20 levels into reflexes to not move like I'm walking through waist deep water, to not have to sprint and click the stick all the time. NOT FOR THE SANDEVISTAN, but THE MOVEMENT SPEED! I know V's been in a coma but God he's slower than ever. I can't. Just can't. Guess Doom and Halo spoiled me.
V turned from gun for hire to just another face in the crowd 😢 don't know to be happy for him or sad because now he's empty This just proves no matter how many friends u think u have, you will always be alone when the lights go out
Would you rather burn out or fade away. You become a weakened shell of a man, didn't learn anything from Johnny, didn't retain the only thing you cared about. Your legend. Nah in my eyes, you take this whole adventure, you fight for Johnny, for yourself, for the sake of fighting back against the corpo. Then you own the idea of learning something from it all and having something of your own and you use the last 6 months in the desert with Panam. That to me is the perfect ending.
Really if V’s friends hadn’t ALL decided to abandon him it wouldn’t have been so bad for him at least (sorry Johnny). I hate to say it and I know two years is a long time, but it really shows who cares about him and who doesn’t. A majority of his friends only needed V because of his abilities. When you got rid of those abilities everyone reacts in a way that seems like he might be better off dead. In reality I like to think of this ending more like the end of the movie Cast Away. You’re not going back to your old life/career but you have most of your life ahead of you in a place that doesn’t ideally involve NC. My favorite ending though is still with PM.
Take note how “Never Fade Away” didn’t play in this ending before cut to the credit. Because V did fade away…into the crowds. In a way, even Johnny knew, because he didn’t asked V to never give up the fight like he did in the other endings, but just to not let anyone change who he is.
My V, the legend who faced off against Kurt Hansen, Barghest, and the rest of Dogtown. He saved the President of the NUSA and even crossed the Blackwall. With all that under his belt, he rose to become the most legendary fixer in Night City. Mercs respected him because he was one of them. They knew he wouldn’t just use them like other fixers. V had walked the same dangerous path, faced the same risks, and earned his place through grit and determination. He always had the best gigs, the most lucrative contracts, and the sharpest intel. His strategic mind and unwavering loyalty to his crew made him a trusted ally. V’s influence stretched across every corner of Night City, making him the go-to fixer for anyone looking to make a name for themselves or score big in the mercenary world.
Panam ending hurt me... It hit a memory I've long buried. Not my fault but unable to fix it. damn... Cyberpunk, where no option is the right option. One of the most vivid representations of the cure being worse than the disease.
I feel that, ultimately the best ending in the game is the "Do not fear the reaper" ending. You don't get anyone involved and none of your friends die. It's just you and Arasaka. If you die at the hands of Arasaka, then that is ok in my book because as how David Martinez once said, "If you're going out, go out with a bang." I rather die as a Night City Legend then becoming another face in the crowd. Plus it wouldn't hurt to have your own drink in the Afterlife.Best Honor Ever.
Looking back on this ending now, its just a general foil for Night city. V got that "good" ending; he escaped his fate, but at the cost of all he was. But for every win, loss is still all around. In the end, nobody wins in Night City.
This was a sad ending. Basicly was a guy who pretty much made a name for himself in night city and only wanted to be cured of something that was killing him but the price he paid to be cured would be far worse then v imagined and that was while he was away, life went on and ppl didnt even really bother to wait and abandoned him only to become just another person in the crowd
The Choice I would make & ending I would pick IF I were in V's shoes. Greatest gift I have is my Life & I intend to keep it. The Only ending where V gets to live & probably in peace too. He has enough money to never worry about cyberware & merc work ever again.
Man, seeing V just be some nobody, with barely any friends, no cyberware, nothing… it’s depressing but bittersweet… yeah V gets to live… but at what cost? It almost seemed like V turning into some legend or leaving with the Aldecados is more worth it, despite not knowing if V gets to live or not
Everyone repeatedly complaining about this ending seem to forget that 23 year old V (25 post coma) will now have their whole life ahead of them to go be a fucking legend Just because we don't see it anymore does not mean V does not get a happy ending and "becomes an NPC" Why does everyone seem to think V had peaked in his/her 20s
Do you really think V can be any kind of threat to anyone while being pure ganic? In a world where every fucking line cook and construction worker has at least a joint implant, do you really think V reduced to basic human speed/strength/skill/net running ability could survive a single minute as a merc? Nah, if you pick this ending, V ends their story as just another person in the crowd. They'll never be a legend. The ending is a question. What do you value more? Being a legend and snuffing it in flames and horror to be revered forever, or holding onto life as just another person, and trying to live a meaningful, normal, life? And the other question, too. Whatever you chose, how do you live with yourself after all is said and done?
@@jacobc874 who said anything about being a merc? There is more to life than being a merc Last i checked saburo isnt exactly chromed out either. And V would not be fully ganic, just not able to use advanced cybernetics, basic things like using a phone, pc and basic interfaces are still fine (as shown via the epilogue). That is also assuming after 20-30 years no significant progress in medical technology is made to cure or at least mitigate the effects of V's condition.
@@clockworklullaby8295I'm pretty sure there are also exo suits that can provide the same combat capability as cybernetics. V would just need to become Iron Man to still be a merc.
I was okay with the ending as it definitely wrapped up V's story in a different way vs previous endings . My problem was with Panam, while i know she visited several times and eventually moved on i feel like she would have called back at the end. She could have said "you're awake!? So much has happened, ill come by so we can catch up". Something...the silence felt wrong.
I think this is more insideous than we think. My thinking is, the reason V can't use any combat implants is because the nusa thinks V is too dangerous to leave around with what she/he knows, and this lets them keep you under their thumb. You can live, but you can't live as an untouchable super soldier anymore. Now, if you talk, they can get to you. IDK if that's right, but I wouldn't put it past them
Said it once, said it twice and I’ll say it again, Nusa nerfed V for their safety seeing that a potential candidate (V) as capable and unpredictable as he is would have to dim a little light of that shine of his to join the squad…I mean who tf could take down Adam smasher (base ending) and or Reed/ Songbird with only two weeks of experience against the big dogs at the table cuz mind you the year and a half later with Jackie they weren’t in the big leagues going against the big dogs they were small town pups doing little stuff and then the arasaka score came along..which means Peak V was within a span of like two weeks canon confirmed, I’d nerf V too Two weeks at the big boy table and all that happens with him on top, who wouldn’t press the nerf button
Eh, kind of but not really. They got close to being a legend, but they didn’t quite make it to the finish line like they do in the other endings. Eventually, their legend is going to fade, whereas they would have put their mark much more firmly otherwise.
honestly? v accomplished the impossible by saving his own life. that's enough to make anyone a legend in night city. should probably take that langley job anyway though. also, shout out to reed for helping v. i know it was an imperfect solution, but he DID save your life. i bet he had to pull a lotta strings to get that job offer too, which he didn't have to do. i think he really cared about v in the same way he cared about alex and so mi. reed definitely has a messiah complex, thinking he's the only one that can solve the problems of the people he cares about. but he does come through most of the time.
Hate this ending 'cause V's eyebrows are fucking gone. But hey, he'll grow them back again just like in The Diner trailer where he got no chromes before
if they stuck to the script there is ZERO chance it actually ends this way. v is too important and too much a lagend and his friemds and loved ones are waaay to caring to do this to him ESPECIALLY panam and the nomad guys that pride themselves on family and doing anything for their family lol. its just a bs ending they tried to deliberately make it sad or bad to stick to the "there are no good endings in night city" bro id think and incredibly rich incredibly armed v whould alone still be HUGE for this town with or without implants. but on top of that with how it actually whould have gone ie having the nomads still helping and supporting and panam obvi just happy ur alive and staying out of danger and loving you. and ur rich and have preem rep. i honestly think getting healed whoulda been the best damn ending lol ik for sure combat chrom is not needed at all for v to have a good life with all that and ik damn sure hed still be a legend.
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it's exactly like Dex said 'Blaze o' Glory' or 'Quiet life'. Its so depressing to see V fade away into the crowd with next to nothing from the past to console him.
What pisses me off the most is that that 300 lb tub of partly gold-plated asshole was right
My ending I thought was very bittersweet. My V got cured like this ending, but I did all of the side missions, gigs, and helped a LOT of people. Sure, he isn't going to be a legend, but a lot of people will remember him for his services I would think. He chose the quiet life before going out in a blaze of glory.
Dex is a schmuck
V smiled in the End. He knew hes actually done now.
Of course, but V still has his whole life ahead of him. After all his contacts, he would have a promising future.
I did his ending actually sad, after I left the hospital and later walking away into the crowd my character was naked lol.
Start with nothing, as you were born😂😂😂
Lol I got the same I found that hilarious that even at the lasztending, created 3 years after the originale release, there is still a nasty bug on the last fucking chunk of game 😂
Do you know if I can continue playing normally after this? Or do I return to the last mission?
I think that hospital bill was quite expensive
@@Kiso3000 last mission I wondered the same thought I play as human. But nope last checkpoint.
Man, this was hard to watch. A lot of the characters sounded depressed, no anger, no malice, it's sad seeing everyone moving on in this game while the main character was in a coma. It resonates a lot with me and my life at this point, minus the coma part. The part with Panam really hurts the most because it wasn't V's fault at all. This game seems to have gone a very depressing and self reflecting path compared to the one it took three years ago. Cyberpunk with forever hold a place near and dear to me.
kerry didnt sound depressed
panam's phone was probably turned off
Well it’s life. After death it’s the same. People will move on
Dexter 'Dex' DeShawn: Would you rather live in peace as Mr. Nobody, die ripe, old and smelling slightly of urine? Or go down for all times in a blaze of glory, smelling near like posies, without seeing your thirtieth?
@@Tsumefan2she got v’s messages but she don’t wanna go back to that
@@Tsumefan2In credits the dude form the camp tells you Panam took it really hard and you best not contact her again lol
I JUST NOTICE MISTY IS WEARING JACKIE'S JACKET
and V is wearing his standart outfit from beginning of the game
@@JohnSmith-es2fhYou mean from Nomad.
Any other role isn't cannon.
@@SeriousDragonify who said that Nomad is canon?
@@kolyasmirno9116 Outfit, talks and trailers.
@@SeriousDragonify Uh link please?
So V pretty much turns into a random NPC in this ending, thats kinda sad, but at least he gets to live
Well in the "star ending" with panam and judy V gets to life as well. In the end credits Misty showed V her cards on the holo and they were positive, meaning that V and the aldecados most likely found a cure.
i don't know man have you seen how people drive in night city 😂😂
@@AlbanianThrashNPC V cannot survive NC
Every ending answers DeShawn's question. "Blaze of Glory or Quiet Life?" This ending is the quiet life, at least until V gets zeroed by a random cyberpsycho or gang, like most chooms in NC.
That's supposed to be good? To live? Being crippled and practicly an living target? It's worse than death...
Painfull to see how Johnny ends like this. The entire game you focus on getting him out, and in the end you realize you are killing a friend.
Next playthrough i'm gonna storm arasaka again, for Johnny
Imo this is a very good ending and pretty realistic.
I also think that V and Panam (if you chose to romance her) will eventually be together again. V and Panam as a romance built a very strong bond as she is very hard to get as a couple. Think about it, Panam was surrounded by dudes for years and stayed single until she met V so she doesn't really sleep around or get into serious relationships often, specially now that she became a co leader of her nomad clan which demands her to hold an even more respectable image among its members and 2 years is not even that long of a time.
The corpos will continue their own natural cycles and V retires from a life of killing in order to become a more down to earth human being.
There's also the chance that V is stronger than the average person similar to David Martinez and the other Cyber Psychos, I mean he is a main character after all so he could eventually recover and keep going in that sort of story arch.
Johnny Silverhand was not alive anyway, you were dealing with a digitally stored consciousness AI since day 1, it was never real, his soul was gone the minute he died back then that's why the process of doing that (extracting someone's consciousness) is called "soul killer".
For those that think that everyone else has moved on, you got to remember that most of V's contacts were prominent organized crime/underground figures and it would be normal that they constantly change their numbers and locations.
Judy is just Judy, she always seemed very emotional and childish to me.
So mi is real ending from phantom liberty arc after that you can do the johnny mission myers Reed are bad they hold so mi as a slave Johnny's ending with roque are the real ending of v she get killed like she deserved betrayed johnny
i think this ending has darker things behind it, V actually a sleep agent for 2 years
When you storm arasaka...remember..PARTY LIKE ITS 2023!!!!
@@ryosaeba566 there is another way to live and thats with panum when misty confronts v and says that her cards were wrong.
Who would've thought that what V wanted from the beginning was so much worse than the death coming to him
or her
or her
Imo this is a very good ending and pretty realistic.
I also think that V and Panam (if you chose to romance her) will eventually be together again. V and Panam as a romance built a very strong bond as she is very hard to get as a couple. Think about it, Panam was surrounded by dudes for years and stayed single until she met V so she doesn't really sleep around or get into serious relationships often, specially now that she became a co leader of her nomad clan which demands her to hold an even more respectable image among its members and 2 years is not even that long of a time.
The corpos will continue their own natural cycles and V retires from a life of killing in order to become a more down to earth human being.
There's also the chance that V is stronger than the average person similar to David Martinez and the other Cyber Psychos, I mean he is a main character after all so he could eventually recover and keep going in that sort of story arch.
Johnny Silverhand was not alive anyway, you were dealing with a digitally stored consciousness AI since day 1, it was never real, his soul was gone the minute he died back then that's why the process of doing that (extracting someone's consciousness) is called "soul killer".
For those that think that everyone else has moved on, you got to remember that most of V's contacts were prominent organized crime/underground figures and it would be normal that they constantly change their numbers and locations.
Judy is just Judy, she always seemed very emotional and childish to me.
@@Tsumefan2 Male V is better cry abt it
I don't really think V wanted exactly this. He/her wanted to continue his merc path, but it's biochip in his head and fear of imminent death made him raise above his/her own own limits and make the impossible.
Aside from his arm along with minor implants, Morgan Blackhand was mostly meat and able to take on a borged out Adam Smasher. V still has the potential to be a legend
@@Tsumefan2Morgan Blackhand is the one who Adam Smasher considered his chief rival. The general consensus among the CP2077 community is that what we see in Johnny’s memories is unreliable and Alt tells us this herself. It’s believed that Johnny died in that room and the later rooftop scene was Morgan Blackhand but Johnny had inserted himself in Blackhand’s place.
@@Tsumefan2 When your first experience of Cyberpunk is a vidyagame
Don't worry. I cheated. I listened to a video about it.
Morgan Blackhand was still equipped with intensive combat implants and had a sandevistan. He wasn't a total machine like Smasher but he was about as implanted as a typical edgerunner.
@@cipher7584He was one shot, shot right in half hips seperated from his torso. He never got hit by an explosion, then chased out. It was also. Spider that retreived his remains, but I'm still not sure if it was Arasaka that soul killer'd him to look for who his team was, or spider soul killer'd him.
V could be a fixer
Logical how Night City and Cyberpunk universe is not considered Utopia, but Dystopia, so even the 'good' ending we all were waiting for, is a depressive one.
I know one story that makes Night City & the Cyberpunk universe look like a utopia… I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream. That story is pitch black, & I dare you to read it. Even the ending makes this ending look like a Disney esque happy ending.
What's funny is that while V is shot as a main character, they could be a pretty good Fixer in a world about to be overrun by Rogue AI infiltrating people's minds.
Imo this is a very good ending and pretty realistic.
I also think that V and Panam (if you chose to romance her) will eventually be together again. V and Panam as a romance built a very strong bond as she is very hard to get as a couple. Think about it, Panam was surrounded by dudes for years and stayed single until she met V so she doesn't really sleep around or get into serious relationships often, specially now that she became a co leader of her nomad clan which demands her to hold an even more respectable image among its members and 2 years is not even that long of a time.
The corpos will continue their own natural cycles and V retires from a life of killing in order to become a more down to earth human being.
There's also the chance that V is stronger than the average person similar to David Martinez and the other Cyber Psychos, I mean he is a main character after all so he could eventually recover and keep going in that sort of story arch.
Johnny Silverhand was not alive anyway, you were dealing with a digitally stored consciousness AI since day 1, it was never real, his soul was gone the minute he died back then that's why the process of doing that (extracting someone's consciousness) is called "soul killer".
For those that think that everyone else has moved on, you got to remember that most of V's contacts were prominent organized crime/underground figures and it would be normal that they constantly change their numbers and locations.
Judy is just Judy, she always seemed very emotional and childish to me.
Nope. Way too many enemies. Fixers are neutral, background characters who avoid upsetting the applecart at all costs. V has massacred every gang in NC, interfered with high level politics and painted very large targets on his back.
While I could definitely see it especially for a street kid V he just simply doesn't have the reputation needed to be one. Whatever rep you do build up prior to the coma is quickly forgotten and without implants there's just no way V would ever be able to regain it and get in that line of work again
"You reach a certain age you drop all your illusions, life just gets simpler from there. I'll never be a legend in this city, but been sleeping nights ever since."
Exactly, best ending period
@@theelectricprince8231 yep until you forget that V made enemies of most of the gangs, and that NC is the most dangerous city probably in fiction. Have you keep up with NC News? Gun vending machines, Bodycount loteries, Davids mom, getting a cure just to die to sum street bum, pathetic, blaze of glory for me.
This ending only explains the real life nothing is forever
But the real ending is help so mi and do the coup like promised with johnny so nobody dies only the bad ones Reed is bad smasher bad and good ones still alive only roque for betrayer got smashed
This the realest ending out there, survival against all odds
They didn't bother to let his loves one know he was in a coma lol
Facts lol I didn’t think about that
V might not have told them, and he wasn't in a state to tell them. Honestly, the fact that they didn't deep dive into his relations implies V just got the standard American Healthcare Experience. No contact listed? then we make no contact
I wish v had a longer, more honest conversation with Panam first. Maybe called, explained the situation and that he will be cured, but will have to undergo a procedure where he may be comatose, maybe for longer than expected. Maybe she would still be in touch after the fact, maybe not. But there would be more closure
the only person i liked was that kerry was willing to hang out after his concert on the crystal palace and viktor was also willing to hang everyone else threw v away like scopstand coffee
Your true friends stick with you no matter how long you’re gone for. Vik and Kerry both at least remember and Kerry was willing to help you out if you needed it. At the end of the day your real friends are always there for you
I'd like to add that Judy deserves some credit too( if you did not romance her/remain friends).
I understand her not wanting to help V given that her Pyramid Song quest line is specifically about her bidding you farewell and wanting to leave Night City. Her hesitation on helping out V is her refusing to relieve all the trauma she experienced in NC all over again. Yet, she remains a friend by extending an invitation to V for a drink when V drops by Pittsburgh for a visit.
That's heaps better than nothing.
@brotherhoodofsteel98 I honestly think this ending sucks. All V had to do was give Reed Panams number or told her where he was going in case things went sour, which was a very high possibility. V kinda deserves the shit panam give him
@@blanexblaze6510agreed. for being such a methodical merc he kinda flubs the details with all his friends. the closest of them dont mind because they're family, but with the rest of the friends you make during the story, they only know them for, what, less than 6 months?
@@AlbanianThrash Gotta blame yourself instead of actually putting a value on your relationships. Remember V saved these peoples lives and changed them. Thats no simple 6 month friend and this is what they think of them when they finally found a way to cure themselves from death.
No one cares about V's condition except for a select few. And you may not believe it but one of them is songbird.
Mr Nobody, just like Dex said.
Riding off into the sunset with panam is my favorite ending granted v only has 6-9 months left to live but he has love and a family the Aldecaldos he found happiness at the end
This ending is very a hard blow to me. My playthrough was 93 hours, all that toil, decisions and sacrificing Johnny was for a big naught, it wasn't getting your life back, it was just deleting yourself with Johnny!
And how everyone turns you down, how you are just something that's an afterthought in everyone's life, how you are a nobody is just bonechilling.
Vic stands up for you, but even he is not Victor you know from beginning of all this, he too is a corpo slave, depressed and just pretends things are fine.
The loneliness, V being a shade of herself, are just painful to watch.
Yeah sure, V is cured, she has a life to look for. But what sort of life? That's just ambigious
Man, even your love betrays you...only Viktor and Misty are still there.
The only real friends V got were his pre konpeki plaza heist ones when he was no one, the others faded away
just finished the game, V literaly becomes Neuromancer's main protagonist with this ending
Bro, I just started reading the book, and I immediately thought of this ending. I'm three chapters in,so far. The similarities between neuromancer and cyberpunk are jarring. Both protagonists have nerve damage, which prevents them from doing the things they love. They even use terms like "street samurai," cyberdeck, cyberspace, etc.
i know right ?! man i really hope they do something more with this game
@@nukefuel6757Thats intentional. Gibson pretty much invented the genre, second only to maybe Blade Runner
@@nukefuel6757Wait till you get to the sequel book Count Zero. Theres even Voodoo Boys and fun spy shootouts like Phantom Liberty. (Thats the best of the trilogy imo)
@@junioraltamontent.7582 Sorry man, but nah. The closest thing to the "beginning" of the genre was the novel "Do androids dream of electric sheep?", released in 1968. That book was the original inspiration for Blade Runner, which released 2 years before Neuromancer.
As for the formation of the genre, it's kinda funny what happened. Gibson started writing Neuromancer before Blade Runner released, and he was devastated when it came out because he thought everyone would think he ripped it off. Then Mike Pondsmith, the creator of Cyberpunk, hadn't actually read Neuromancer before writing the first Cyberpunk stories.
You either die in a blaze of glory and become a legend. Or live long enough to watch yourself fade into obscurity.
Another reason to go with the Nomads or Don’t Fear the Reaper. Hate to see my V so powerless.
I really wish there was an ending with V and Johnny both coming out alive and becoming life long buds.
Ain't that kinda movie, kid
@@jacobc874 you're right, it's a video game, sport.
No such thing as a happy ending in Night City.
@Vernir-de4yv Whether you like it or not, Cyberpunk as a genre has always been nihilistic, depressing and hopeless, with small bits of hope thrown in there to not make it too miserable.
@Vernir-de4yvDamn it’s almost like Cyberpunk is a very different genre to the world of the Witcher and the Witcher games aren’t canon to the source material like 2077 is.
Not every story has a happy ending and if you expected one from the world of Night City you clearly don’t understand the setting. It’d be like asking a 40k game to end with every faction finding peace.
They just need to add an ending where V and Johnny just say fuck it we ball and try to both hop back in the body at the same time and mix into V Silverhand
V's closest & truest in NC are Viktor (BFF) and Misty (sister, like). Panam, Aldecaldos, all that family talk were BS & hollow. Hell even Takemura gave V a better farewell talk than them. And Judy was felt close but distant.
right? they're them out yo be ur family and family means everything to us and made Panam to be a im just happy ur here and well in fact they showed her to honestly PREFER him not to be in danger so this ending is just bs. this whouldnt have ended like this if they stuck to the script. but they tried their best to make it seem like a bad ending tbh.
55 miss called from panam
The tower could have been WAY worse. First time I played the ending, I legit thought those thugs would just stab V and leave them to bleed out on the street, alone and broken.
Maybe we'd even get some heartbreaking 'last sunrise' bs before (presumably, gotta keeps things 'open') going flatline.
I don't know why V didn't call his friends and loved ones to tell them he would have a surgery to cure himself and he could be out for a while, it's what any person would do, i think,.
I'll never be a legend in the city, I can live with that, some might think standing at the top, the... "blaze of glory" as they say? Will be better... nah, its just a lie we tell ourselves that keeps us going, blaze of glory never existed, its the same empty feeling, the end of an adventure. So don't feel bad for V, he lives, he didn't "fade into the crowd" he was always a part of it. same then, same now.
2.0 was beautiful. gave me an ending I waited for. Thankyou CDPR.
Man did I get hit. Haven’t felt like this since Bioshock Infinite’s closing scene.
Here I am, desperate to pick up pieces and build a C.A.G.E fiction one-shot. I will say, though, that Phantom Liberty *does* prove that V can be cured, albeit at significant cost by the time the FIA rolls around. Which means in hindsight, it isn’t even “too late” for the more ambiguous endings.
We’re still left quite open to Mr. Blue Eyes, and Panam’s endings. That’s the beauty of Cyberpunk, though. Contemplation, speculation- some stories are much more finite than others, but there is hope to be had for those who won’t quit fighting.
I know that a lot of people see this ending as just bleak and depressing, but in truth it is the most hopeful and 'grounded ending. At least for V.
Waking up after two years to find your old life and most of your friends gone would push anyone into an emotional breakdown. It's a real gut punch. It is just human to feel like everything is lost and all your sacrifices were for nothing, even if there is hope left.
And there is a lot of hope in this ending.
V is finally cured for good and has more than enough time to build up a new life. This isn't the first time for V to hit rock bottom in life, as this is a core part of the prologue for every life path.
Also, since she didn't rely on Alt's 'help', V has not been soulkilled and remains her true self. (I feel like people tend to ignore the implications of this in most of the popular endings)
V also doesn't really lose all her friends and connections. Keep in mind that V met most of them over a span of only a few weeks, maybe two or three months at most. And they always knew V was dying. They all obviously cared for V and were heartbroken by her presumed death. They had to move with their lifes. But her old friends like Vic and Misty were still there for her. And Kerry immediately offers V any help he can provide and promises to meet with her asap, despite being in the middle of a tour in space.
If it took V just a few weeks to make new friends while running from death, she will quickly meet new friends again now.
V's physical condition is also exceptionally good for someone who just awoke from years of coma. There is no time skip between waking up and leaving for NC, which means V hasn't received any physical therapy or other treatment before leaving.
The loss of cyberware compatibility is probably the hardest part for V, as it means V's Edgerunner career is over. Yes, people can achieve a lot without chrome and there are enough examples within the game to prove it, but you just won't last long as a top-level merc. Still, V has both the experience and the skills to become a highly effective fighter again once fully recovered from the coma. At least one capable enough to survive most low level threats out on the streets.
And considering what awaits the world in the near future, it may be a very fortunate thing for V to no longer rely on implantats...
There are endless opportunities for V to build a new life now, meet new people and maybe even get back into the business as fixer or a specialist merc. V knows how NC works and while a lot has changed in two years, the rules are always the same. It wouldn't take long to sort out what has changed, who's in charge now and what's going in the city, especially since V could easily turn to close contacts like Rogue or Mr Hands for help here.
What awaits the world in the near future? Solar flares or something along that disaster?
@WouldYouKindlyGWAR There're hints throughout the game and PL that the rogue AIs beyond the blackwall are preparing for an invasion to overthrow humanity. Look up the lore and theories around Mr Blue Eyes / NightCorp. There's a lot going on behind the scenes.
I'd actually argue that the Star ending is more hopeful, that hope just isn't as overt as this ending. There are a lot of little clues that hint at V's fate in the Star that people have picked up over the years.
For starters, one of Panam's contacts is almost definitely StormTech, who specializes in nanotechnology and other fields that could certainly help V. Misty's Tarot reading also sounds way too hopeful for someone to be dying in 6 months, and her readings are always accurate. Finally, next to the Basilisk is a datashard containing an excerpt from The Iliad that I would highly recommend looking up. It basically spells out the likely outcome for V, especially when paired with the final cutscene.
I'd also like to add that I do firmly believe that V is still themselves after Mikoshi. Engrams are less like clones and more like a blueprint the biochip gives to the brain. It is effectively brainwashing, this is what Hellman was alluding to in the hotel. Johnny was never there, he was really just a split personality being forced onto V's brain, converting it. Every instance of V and Johnny interacting is just V's brain processing this change. This would also mean that Johnny in the Temperance ending is really just a version of V believing they are Johnny. Any ending that has V's engram take over is basically just the brain swapping blueprints.
The Tower ending is ultimately the only one where we actually get to see V live, but a few other endings imply a similar fate for V down the road.
@@JarlRagnaar oh snap
@@yarhar9732 Good point. I'll definitely look into it again when I do another playthrough some day.
I've heard people claim that the star was hopeful for V's future, but as far as I knew it was mostly based on Misty's Tarot. I always thought help from Panam's contacts was mostly wishful thinking by people who just wanted a happy ending.
When it comes to the nature of engrams (and by extention Soulkiller), this is one of the most fascinating topics in the game imo. The nature of consciousness and the blurring of the line between technology and the human mind is a such classic theme of the cyberpunk genre.
I don't think we can say anything for certain, but you've raised a good point for a more hopeful view on it.
I’m not mad at this ending it feels real and mature AF compared to the tone of the rest of the game. But to be honest with you, this is actually pretty deep and insightful. With me being moved away from home for almost 3 years now. Sometimes I try to reach back for reminders of who I was to find some comfort and perhaps confidence in this new life. Only to Find…something…else…damn near everyone who I thought of as a friend have become either faint acquaintances of memory or simply not there…distant.it’s a different kind of loneliness…it makes me afraid to go back sometimes it sucks…. But what choices do I have other than to accept reality if I am to guide myself to the life that I want? I’m sure I’m not the only one who this ending struck accord with lol. Thusly I find this to be far more relatable than anything else in the whole game and the fact that they thought to put something like this in there makes me respect the game more.. I’m not picking this ending though!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Take care V...
i choose this ending, because it remind me what dexter ask to me in the beginning of heist mission, and i choose quiet life.
in the end, only Misty and Vic who still keep in touch with V, like the beginning of the game, it just V, jackie, misty and Vic, so it should end like this.
maybe V just become "nobody" in the end, but yeah, i think thats meaning of the "quiet life"
I don’t mind this ending to be honest. V has to grow beyond who he originally started at and chart a new course in life and that’s ok. It doesn’t mean he has to live some depressing life and that it’s ruined it just means things are different
Brooo I don’t get how pam can be so mad at v when she knew he was tryna get cured tht doesn’t even make sense…. Cyberpunk can’t be this sad mane 😭 v can’t catch a break
guarentee they just didn't want to pay the voice actress or she didn't want to do more lines.
Achievement unlocked: Ryan Gosling Ending
Literally V
So this set up for the story of cyberpunk orion considering that arasaka is on its knees even if v dosnet atrck ther tower leaving millitech or kang Tao to take over but I think a new character would work for the next game the fia is beascly the cia and fbi combine in the universe I love to see how they expand the lore in future cyberpunk games
I imagined my V as the one who wants to get cured and live at any cost, since that's the whole point of the main story. Seeing V become a nobody, left alone by everyone he cared about, took a giant toll on me. I loaded a different save and busted my way into Arasaka Tower as Johnny, again. Then I returned to body as V. I think it's the best ending for my concept of the character.
I can only accept Phantom Liberty ending for my V if it's considered a canon and he becomes a fixer in a sequel.
This is by far the most depressing ending. Second worst after the devil ending.
this might be the devil ending of phantom liberty
@Garland846lol you think you'll ever return to earth after that? You are a saka lab rat until you flatline being fed false hope so the corpo scientists don't get the results skewed. If v goes to sakas facility, they will never set foot on earth again. You can believe that
The most depressing is definitely the "easy way out" ending imo
Imo this is a very good ending and pretty realistic.
I also think that V and Panam (if you chose to romance her) will eventually be together again. V and Panam as a romance built a very strong bond as she is very hard to get as a couple. Think about it, Panam was surrounded by dudes for years and stayed single until she met V so she doesn't really sleep around or get into serious relationships often, specially now that she became a co leader of her nomad clan which demands her to hold an even more respectable image among its members and 2 years is not even that long of a time.
The corpos will continue their own natural cycles and V retires from a life of killing in order to become a more down to earth human being.
There's also the chance that V is stronger than the average person similar to David Martinez and the other Cyber Psychos, I mean he is a main character after all so he could eventually recover and keep going in that sort of story arch.
Johnny Silverhand was not alive anyway, you were dealing with a digitally stored consciousness AI since day 1, it was never real, his soul was gone the minute he died back then that's why the process of doing that (extracting someone's consciousness) is called "soul killer".
For those that think that everyone else has moved on, you got to remember that most of V's contacts were prominent organized crime/underground figures and it would be normal that they constantly change their numbers and locations.
Judy is just Judy, she always seemed very emotional and childish to me.
@@fugedaboudit I think you make a great point about ngrams. Johnny is indeed dead, and V also dies the moment she reaches Mikoshi. This is the only ending where she really survives. But bleaching Johnny, even if it’s an ngram, and giving up unconscious So Mi is too hight price to pay for survival imo. In a bleak situation where V and Johnny find themselves, the best thing they can do is make sure their friends are getting a chance to survive night city and find new home. Still, V and Johnny deserve better.
Live the quiet life or die in a blaze of glory. We’ve finally been given the chance to so the former. To survive, at the cost of our hopes and aspirations
I'd never do my boy Johnny like that
After that ending i’m too depressed to uninstall the game leaving things that way… My final play through, im gonna send somgbird to the moon, storm saka tower with Johnny, send him off with Alt and go up to crystal palace and die a Night City legend…
… I’d rather V live up to his full potential rather than waste away with panam, she neglects you when she becomes chief so theres no point in going with them, besides she treats you pretty bad in the cured V ending so fuck her….
My last play through will be for Johnny… it just doesn’t get any better than that…. BLAZE OF GLORY…. Then im putting the game down, never to play again!
My exact thoughts, fuck the NUSA, fuck arasaka, and fuck being a helpless gonk, Blaze Of Glory just like Jackie would’ve wanted
@@beanbarron7359 (chello starts playing)
"i cant move on, cant start a whole life anew. not yet" who could've. who could've.
If you maxed out Johnny's relationship with V before starting this ending, the ending becomes even more bittersweet when Johnny is willing to go so you can live (iirc)
All I was doing was trying to find a perfect sequence to end the story on.. now I'm sad as hell man😭
The small thing i didnt like in this ending is how they made V helpless against a random gonk. As if V would not keep its weapons and martial skills. Even corpo v punked a couple of thugs on the lizzy's roof with no combat implants
V's been in a coma for years with his neurons fried and muscles decayed. Sadly even if his body somehow remembered his attacks, they might not even be able to stun basic thugs
or her depending on the gender@@mystiqueuser4919
Then you did not understand, how his health suffered from all this.
And as for the weapons. According to an email, since V didn't pay their rent in for their apartment (canonically the only one they have) all of Vs stuff was sold off
@@joshuathedestroyer3863 But i had most of my iconics on me tho, along with a few millions of eddies
even in the ending where V gets to live, it’s still a dystopian nightmare. there can indeed never be a good ending in cyberpunk
I wonder if the next Cyberpunk game will be in 2079 🤔
nope in 2028
After all he went through, they took his eyebrows...HIS EYEBROWS!!
prolly one of the most bitter sweet endings
... v loses all of their netrunner cyber samurai teleport kill boom pow bang powers and becomes nothing but a wandering npc...
welp! atleast u get to live out the rest of ur life retired, jhonny is gone, the relic's damage wont shorten ur lifespan. but u did kinda give up mercing. atleast u got friends to help out.
ALL GONE, LOST. ALMOST AS IF IT WAS ALL IN VEIN. BUT AT LAST, FREEDOM OF LIFE. WITHOUT THE PLAGUE OF THE RELIC HAUNTING YOU.
you once were an npc. became a bigshot. then back to an npc. like before you and jackie stole the relic.
from none, to all, back to none.
At least V didn’t die. And frankly I’m okay with this ending. It didn’t depress me at all. It’s a breath of fresh air over the repetitive “you’re always gonna die” formula of the other endings.
Now if you really want to know a story & its ending that makes Cyberpunk 2077 & all of its endings look like a G rated Disney movie, I got 8 words for you… I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream. That story is pitch black, & I dare anyone who’s disturbed by Cyberpunk to read it.
Well I know what ending I don’t want
Is this really worse than betraying johnny ending ?
The most sad and egoist ending ever.
Thanks for sharing!
It about saving your self - pondsmith
The cure ending felt like perfect ending for Vs story when I played thru but also felt very bittersweet as you feel liberated and you’re still alive yet only a shell of your former self. As someone going thru depression and recently losing a lot this ending really hit in the feels when I first played it when it came out
Well you loose everything for the cure. Your relationships, your gear and skills. Even the pendent that Misty gives you from the bullet you’re shot by. It’s like you’re alive, but at what cost.
This is the best ending and it's a miracle.
V lived that blaze of glory but also got to get the quiet life in the end. Nothing wrong with being normal
Waking up to find all the messages from the years you missed hurts, espically from Panam. That's actually super sad.
I've finished the game with every possible outcome from this is the saddest one by far.
Rampage Arasaka > Panam Ending > All the Endings
This ending is so ambiguous I love it. Cyberpunk really gives you a wide perspective on things where every actions are not fully good either bad. This game's story really gives you place to think.
That's how I would describe Phantom Liberty. Ambiguous. You're left with more questions than answers
I had this ending yesterday.... so hard heartbreaking!
me who did a completely ganic run knowing this ending really changes nothing:
That is seriously impressive
It’s also technically not possible. We literally can’t play a fully ganic V, since he starts pretty noticeably chromed up. A “ganic” playthrough is essentially running with old/basic chrome, which still puts you beyond a regular person.
The GigaChad run
The movement speed. THE MOVEMENT SPEED! The only thing that bothered me starting out. I sunk 20 levels into reflexes to not move like I'm walking through waist deep water, to not have to sprint and click the stick all the time. NOT FOR THE SANDEVISTAN, but THE MOVEMENT SPEED! I know V's been in a coma but God he's slower than ever. I can't. Just can't. Guess Doom and Halo spoiled me.
I hope v will find his peace
V turned from gun for hire to just another face in the crowd 😢 don't know to be happy for him or sad because now he's empty
This just proves no matter how many friends u think u have, you will always be alone when the lights go out
Would you rather burn out or fade away. You become a weakened shell of a man, didn't learn anything from Johnny, didn't retain the only thing you cared about. Your legend.
Nah in my eyes, you take this whole adventure, you fight for Johnny, for yourself, for the sake of fighting back against the corpo. Then you own the idea of learning something from it all and having something of your own and you use the last 6 months in the desert with Panam. That to me is the perfect ending.
Really if V’s friends hadn’t ALL decided to abandon him it wouldn’t have been so bad for him at least (sorry Johnny). I hate to say it and I know two years is a long time, but it really shows who cares about him and who doesn’t. A majority of his friends only needed V because of his abilities. When you got rid of those abilities everyone reacts in a way that seems like he might be better off dead.
In reality I like to think of this ending more like the end of the movie Cast Away. You’re not going back to your old life/career but you have most of your life ahead of you in a place that doesn’t ideally involve NC.
My favorite ending though is still with PM.
Take note how “Never Fade Away” didn’t play in this ending before cut to the credit. Because V did fade away…into the crowds. In a way, even Johnny knew, because he didn’t asked V to never give up the fight like he did in the other endings, but just to not let anyone change who he is.
Oh naaaaah, ain't no way they did me and Panam like that
My V, the legend who faced off against Kurt Hansen, Barghest, and the rest of Dogtown. He saved the President of the NUSA and even crossed the Blackwall. With all that under his belt, he rose to become the most legendary fixer in Night City.
Mercs respected him because he was one of them. They knew he wouldn’t just use them like other fixers. V had walked the same dangerous path, faced the same risks, and earned his place through grit and determination. He always had the best gigs, the most lucrative contracts, and the sharpest intel. His strategic mind and unwavering loyalty to his crew made him a trusted ally. V’s influence stretched across every corner of Night City, making him the go-to fixer for anyone looking to make a name for themselves or score big in the mercenary world.
Didnt even know this was an ending they added. And now I know I'll never bother trying to get it. 😅
Panam ending hurt me... It hit a memory I've long buried. Not my fault but unable to fix it. damn...
Cyberpunk, where no option is the right option. One of the most vivid representations of the cure being worse than the disease.
I aint letting johnny go out like this... Relic saved us he is just as much my choom as jackie as far as im concerned. Im doing dont fear the reaper.
As they say, you know who your friends are when the chips are down. Turns out V had a lot fewer of those than they thought.
Best final scene 👏🏼
Still piss of if panam loved us so much she will wait and see us again but nope big slap to the face
She apparently died
I feel that, ultimately the best ending in the game is the "Do not fear the reaper" ending. You don't get anyone involved and none of your friends die. It's just you and Arasaka.
If you die at the hands of Arasaka, then that is ok in my book because as how David Martinez once said, "If you're going out, go out with a bang."
I rather die as a Night City Legend then becoming another face in the crowd.
Plus it wouldn't hurt to have your own drink in the Afterlife.Best Honor Ever.
Sad to see V like that man, Jackie didn't die for this.
My final mission was very different....I killed Reed, and had to go to Arasaka to get 'cured.' That didn't work very well.
Looking back on this ending now, its just a general foil for Night city. V got that "good" ending; he escaped his fate, but at the cost of all he was.
But for every win, loss is still all around. In the end, nobody wins in Night City.
This ending is good for a corpo v
This was a sad ending. Basicly was a guy who pretty much made a name for himself in night city and only wanted to be cured of something that was killing him but the price he paid to be cured would be far worse then v imagined and that was while he was away, life went on and ppl didnt even really bother to wait and abandoned him only to become just another person in the crowd
The sequel should open at the end of the legendary ending where V infiltrates the casino.
The Choice I would make & ending I would pick IF I were in V's shoes. Greatest gift I have is my Life & I intend to keep it. The Only ending where V gets to live & probably in peace too. He has enough money to never worry about cyberware & merc work ever again.
Definition of winning it all
And still losing it all
I wish they would’ve given V some hair, worst part was looking at my V bald…heartbreaking
I just got this ending for the first time. I'm so disappointed how Panam just gives up on V. Like damn. It's not his fault.
Man, seeing V just be some nobody, with barely any friends, no cyberware, nothing… it’s depressing but bittersweet… yeah V gets to live… but at what cost? It almost seemed like V turning into some legend or leaving with the Aldecados is more worth it, despite not knowing if V gets to live or not
Everyone repeatedly complaining about this ending seem to forget that 23 year old V (25 post coma) will now have their whole life ahead of them to go be a fucking legend
Just because we don't see it anymore does not mean V does not get a happy ending and "becomes an NPC"
Why does everyone seem to think V had peaked in his/her 20s
Do you really think V can be any kind of threat to anyone while being pure ganic? In a world where every fucking line cook and construction worker has at least a joint implant, do you really think V reduced to basic human speed/strength/skill/net running ability could survive a single minute as a merc? Nah, if you pick this ending, V ends their story as just another person in the crowd. They'll never be a legend. The ending is a question. What do you value more? Being a legend and snuffing it in flames and horror to be revered forever, or holding onto life as just another person, and trying to live a meaningful, normal, life? And the other question, too. Whatever you chose, how do you live with yourself after all is said and done?
@@jacobc874 who said anything about being a merc?
There is more to life than being a merc
Last i checked saburo isnt exactly chromed out either. And V would not be fully ganic, just not able to use advanced cybernetics, basic things like using a phone, pc and basic interfaces are still fine (as shown via the epilogue).
That is also assuming after 20-30 years no significant progress in medical technology is made to cure or at least mitigate the effects of V's condition.
@@clockworklullaby8295I'm pretty sure there are also exo suits that can provide the same combat capability as cybernetics. V would just need to become Iron Man to still be a merc.
There's more to life than violence and death. V chose life and he didn't even know it. It cost him sure but gave him a second chance
I mean I beat the game with only the implants the game absolutely forces on you, I think V has a chance on a pistol build alone
If I was V part of me would just end it all
I was okay with the ending as it definitely wrapped up V's story in a different way vs previous endings . My problem was with Panam, while i know she visited several times and eventually moved on i feel like she would have called back at the end. She could have said "you're awake!? So much has happened, ill come by so we can catch up". Something...the silence felt wrong.
I had to come watch this because my game crashed on the credits 😅 this was a great ending
I think this is more insideous than we think. My thinking is, the reason V can't use any combat implants is because the nusa thinks V is too dangerous to leave around with what she/he knows, and this lets them keep you under their thumb. You can live, but you can't live as an untouchable super soldier anymore. Now, if you talk, they can get to you. IDK if that's right, but I wouldn't put it past them
Id like to think if we get a next game we get to see V as a fixer
Said it once, said it twice and I’ll say it again, Nusa nerfed V for their safety seeing that a potential candidate (V) as capable and unpredictable as he is would have to dim a little light of that shine of his to join the squad…I mean who tf could take down Adam smasher (base ending) and or Reed/ Songbird with only two weeks of experience against the big dogs at the table cuz mind you the year and a half later with Jackie they weren’t in the big leagues going against the big dogs they were small town pups doing little stuff and then the arasaka score came along..which means Peak V was within a span of like two weeks canon confirmed, I’d nerf V too Two weeks at the big boy table and all that happens with him on top, who wouldn’t press the nerf button
To be honest this is probably the best ending for V. They went down as a legend but also keep their life, even if it’s not what it was before
Eh, kind of but not really. They got close to being a legend, but they didn’t quite make it to the finish line like they do in the other endings. Eventually, their legend is going to fade, whereas they would have put their mark much more firmly otherwise.
honestly? v accomplished the impossible by saving his own life. that's enough to make anyone a legend in night city. should probably take that langley job anyway though.
also, shout out to reed for helping v. i know it was an imperfect solution, but he DID save your life. i bet he had to pull a lotta strings to get that job offer too, which he didn't have to do. i think he really cared about v in the same way he cared about alex and so mi. reed definitely has a messiah complex, thinking he's the only one that can solve the problems of the people he cares about. but he does come through most of the time.
Hate this ending 'cause V's eyebrows are fucking gone.
But hey, he'll grow them back again just like in The Diner trailer where he got no chromes before
if they stuck to the script there is ZERO chance it actually ends this way. v is too important and too much a lagend and his friemds and loved ones are waaay to caring to do this to him ESPECIALLY panam and the nomad guys that pride themselves on family and doing anything for their family lol. its just a bs ending they tried to deliberately make it sad or bad to stick to the "there are no good endings in night city" bro id think and incredibly rich incredibly armed v whould alone still be HUGE for this town with or without implants. but on top of that with how it actually whould have gone ie having the nomads still helping and supporting and panam obvi just happy ur alive and staying out of danger and loving you. and ur rich and have preem rep. i honestly think getting healed whoulda been the best damn ending lol ik for sure combat chrom is not needed at all for v to have a good life with all that and ik damn sure hed still be a legend.