EXCITED! Hey Chris I love your genuine enthusiasm for R&M bikes. Keep that excitement going, it’s really infectious (a good infectious!)... hell, your enthusiasm got me in no small way to get a couple of R&Ms this season... I’m sure many around the globe did too. Test rode the Nevo, was super impressed by the solid smooth ride. Felt really safe and comfortable. Nevo 3. Really accomplished design. Love that upper chainstay and belt guard. Dual battery on the rack is sweet... gives the bike great lines. And such a high spec of stuff overall. Has to be THE sturdy step-through hardtail eBike. It feels like one bike that is right in the middle of all the “needs” you could ask for: a real allrounder easy-to-live-with car replacement. 10/10 video Team Propel 👍
Great bike, just bought one absolutely amazing, I live in Switzerland so plenty of steep roads, but no problem, also good on gravel paths. Really enjoying life, didn’t get out much before too old for a bike without a motor, now I’m out and about and it helps with my balance problems. It’s expensive but worth it, this bike is quality.
Even if you had a bike before (i had a ebike with 8000km on it) moving to a nevo was a big step, I tried my old bike after about 800km on the nevo and was shocked how much i prefer the nevo.
I ended up buying an E bike from a company that I've bought non e bikes from for a long time, but, Nothing beats how beautiful those R&M bikes are. I drool over all of them. Also, your videos have basically hooked me on E bikes, I'm a huge advocate now.
THAT's my wife's B-day present this year ;) I'll be seeing you guys in Bk. soon. Thank you for all your help in answering my questions Chris & Connor! Joe Staten Isl.
Great video as always. I cannot tell you how valuable I found your videos in learning about ebikes and researching them. However, I do have a major problem with this one. I ordered a Nevo3 from you at the end of May. I had no problem waiting two months to get the bike I wanted exactly how I wanted it. Now after watching this video my patience has all of sudden disappeared and I am extremely anxious to get my hands on my Nevo3
Thanks so much for the feedback! I hope you’ll forgive me and R&M for making this video possible before the initial order arrives. Your bike is coming soon though and it should be part of the first batch.
My wife and I saw this video today . as always very informative and in detail specifications. , great job Chris . She loves to have a white one for Christmas . As for me , just received my early Christmas gift , 2020 R&M Super delite Rohloff HS . Awesome machine . Delivered by Chris Nolte !! I was surprised to see Propel founder took some time from his busy schedule and bring my gift to our house in Westwood UCLA . Such a kind , detail oriented and real gentleman indeed ! My experience with Propel organization has been great and very supportive team all along . Chris , when it comes to Ebike , you and your team are contagious . Wish you the best . Dr Nik
Love Riese & Muller, amazing bikes!! And excellent video Chris. We really appreciate you providing us with these super high quality, first-look videos with the latest and greatest.
"I realize I say excited a lot" 😆. Love it. The "I'm really..." Bit can stay and on every video you can use a different word each time and it can be your signature habit. People will be excited to know what new substitute word you will use on each new video hehe. Another great review. I love hearing about new ebikes. Still not got one yet though
Love this! I like the different word idea. I can definitely try this. I’m usually just trying to remember all the specs and what I want to talk about so it might be tough. I don’t use any notes or a script, but we’ll see. I really appreciate the support!
Love your videos, very enlighting and informative. They definitively had a major role on my decision to purchase this model today (I'm in Europe) with the Rohloff option. Cheers and keep it on!
Thanks for posting this, it looks a great bike. I seriously need to sell at least a couple of bikes but once I do this will be top of of my list. I really like the adjustability of the handle bars.
Happy Veterans' Day Chris and thank you for your service! Travelled from Upstate NY to the Brooklyn shop and test rode a couple of bikes with Nora (great ambassador for Propel!). Riding on Brooklyn streets as schools let out was an interesting experience. Ended up really liking the Nevo 3, which I hadn't previously considered. So returned to Upstate on Veterans' Day, plied my wife with wine, and called Nora and ordered the Nevo 3 (in stock). I think it's the right choice for a (semi) spry 77 year old. Whole process went smoothly and Nora was great. Very excited about receiving the bike in a couple of weeks. Might look for a guided NYC bike ride in the Spring. The video tour you did got me very excited. The only thing I'm pondering is best way to securely lock the bike given the lack of a real frame triangle. Any thoughts? Keep up the great work with the videos, Chris. Bill G.
When there are so many people who are happy with their Nevo 3 with a 625 watt battery, why is it so difficult to know what the range is when supporting in tour modes?
Hi Chris. I'm 61 inches tall. I'm planning to buy the R & M Nevo 3, but the 43cm frame is limited to 500W battery size and fewer Schwalbe tire options. You're riding the 47cm model in this video. Can I ask how tall are you and do you think that the 47cm is just too big a frame for a 5'1" 120 lbs woman?
Very good informative video Chris! I especially liked the way you shared with us the different models in the RM lineup early in the video. It gives us instant comparisons as to what else is available. Smart! I own a 2019 Haibike XDuro ALLMtn 6.0 bike......would you take it on trade plus cash for a new RM? Maybe this model or.....? Thanks and keep up the good work.....you’ve improved over time with the presentations here.
My friends and I commute to work in all 4 seasons in the Midwest where we get a lot of snow in the winter and the summer plenty of rain. What tyre would be suggested for for our changing seasons?
choi1061984 I switched to studded snow tires for the winter. Mine are Suomi brand, now called Nokian. Worked very well on my commute which was a mix of ice, snow, and wet and dry pavement.
Chris, as we know the range depends not only on the assistance level applied, but also on battery temperature. Do you know of any method currently available or in development that will maintain the battery at optimum working temperature (like a heated blanket), especially in the cooler climates?
Thanks for the good and useful review. Question: Is this bike suitable to use as a touring bike with panniers, i.e. is the chain-stay or in this case belt-stay far enough back so that you don't hit the panniers when cycling with the toe end of your feet on the peddles?
Chris is the Nevo 3 battery chamber exactly the same for the 500 wh battery and the 625 wh? I’m wondering if the 500 would be smaller and wiggle around or possibly disconnect in the chamber if you ordered the 625 version but had a second battery. Thanks
Great video what would you recommend for locking the Nevo 3 bike, I think it would be desirable to bike thieves, so I need to ensure I purchase the right locks at the same time of purchase
Does R&M publish a sizing chart? Would like to share (5’9”) with my wife (5’2”). LOVE our Load that we got from you all in Brooklyn and evaluating the next bike!
Yes if you visit the website you will find a chart per bike. Weirdly enough i am missing one model the 47 is 5"4 to 5"9. But there is also a smaller model the 43, here are the sizes in cm ( Nevo GT Framehoogte 43cm (155cm - 170cm) 47cm (165 - 180Cm) 56cm (175 - 195cm) ). The biggest problem is see is maybe adding a different seat post so you can quickly adjust them. Personally my fav now is the vario automatic
On my Packster bought one year ago, tubes were using Presta valves; now all R&M bikes seem to be equiped with Shrader (Auto -> car) valves. Do you know why ? As it is the case with other bikes delivered during 1st trimester (seen in shop), new version of Cane Creek seatpost is used on this new Nevo 3. And I must wait at least 3 more weeks to get mine... In dark grey, like the one shown in this video, because terra Grey is no more available... Second "why ?". An, by the way, thank you for your videos and all information you give in them.
Thank you Chris for an always informative video. I ordered the new Nevo 3 GT Vario HS and after some thinking, I decided to go for the GX option. I ride 90% on pavement, so based on your point of view, it not might a good idea to the Razor Rack instead of the Moto X, especially when you mentioned that the Moto X might be more 'puncture-resistant' than the Razor Rack. To be honest, I went for the GX option because the $60 was a good investment for things that are included in the option (e.g. Ergon horn grips, pedal, saddle, in addition to the tire). Two questions for you Chris... 1.) Should I buy the Moto X (or other tire) and 2.) What to do you recommend to decrease a puncture if I stick with the Razor Rack. Also, Would you mind to update this video and give the review for the Nevo 3 but with the HS version. Thanks in advanced!
Maybe you (Chris) didn’t see my recent question re trade so I’ll repost it : I own a 2019 Haibike XDuro ALLMtn 6.0 FS bike......would you take it on trade plus cash on my end for a new RM? Thanks !
Beautiful engineering but it's almost too much. My ebike only has a bosch active line+ and a 400watt hour battery but I bet it nearly has the same range and performance because it probably weighs half as much. The bonus being with mine I can easily lift it over fences/gates or throw it in my car.
@@1gr8oil I just checked. You're not kidding!!!!! Who are the people buying these things, I have no idea. Sounds ridiculous to me. I think I'll stick with my old $300 fixed gear bike for the time being.
I recently ordered a Nevo3 here in Germany in high-speed version with perfomance line speed motor. Delivery is on end of July. Are you sure they all get motor-update and the 85 Nm torque ? Some say the speed version will NOT have the update....
I heard that high speed bikes will not get the update in Germany because of the certificate of conformity. Maybe your bike will already ship with the update, but I think it is more of a legal issue than a technical one. So might not apply for the american market
Chris are you so busy that you can’t answer my question below RE; trade with cash for a new RM? Sure would be considerate to at least post an informative/helpful answer as I’m very interested in a new RM and I live fairly close to your Long Beach store. Your call .
Compare this bike to a Honda supercub c125, I'd take the supercub any day. The Honda is also nearly 2000.00 less and is probably a much better built machine. Now it's not a apple-to-apple comparison but at this price range, you have to wonder if we should start comparing ebikes to small motorcycles.
I still wonder that the step-through frame is marketed as durable as diamond frames. R-M has identical weight limits. As an obese cyclist I wonder if the security margins are the same or not but they probably don't share this due to liability and strategy reasons.
@@Hollapopp Just to add (2 years later) the weight is not really set by the frame they are all build the same HS or none HS version and if you think about it that means it has it 'easy' on the 25km version. The weight limit is depending on replaceable parts in this case the steering column (in this video already replaced because of the kiox) the saddle tube and the peddles (where you must be able to stand on them with all that weight). Each bike has the weight limit printed on the mid tube and if you select the correct parts for a little more it should state 160km max.
Agree that category shouldn't be called a girl bicycle anymore but step through. Girl bicycle is historic when women didn't or rarely wear a pair of trousers while a diamant steel frame provided more stability for heavier men. Today it depands more on purpose and not by what sex the rider has.
Unless ur buying an ebike with a midddrive motor. Don't buy an ebike Get a ekit and install it on a donor bike. Way cheaper and u get a better bike. $600 48 v 500 watt kit with battery
Please don't take this personally but there are 2 things you are overlooking. R&M is a highend bike and as such are less 'value'. Second thing is if you plan to ho 20miles/hour you really should have a bike that can handle it that means suspension, spokes, tires and most important breaks. The amount of 20miles or 28miles speed monsters without breaks to match it is just crazy and a danger. Also if you think a upgraded donor bike can match or in your worlds be a better bike is silly you clearly have never been on a R&M bike... Now does that mean these bikes are for everybody nope but having these in the market for people who want them and enjoy them is fine. For me its way cheaper than a car and quicker and give me more joy.
Thanks so much for watching!🚲
If you're interested in learning more about this bike, check out the link in the video description.✌
Chris. You seem like a helluva-nice guy. I could watch your videos and listen to you, all day. So calming. Thanks for all that you do.
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EXCITED! Hey Chris I love your genuine enthusiasm for R&M bikes. Keep that excitement going, it’s really infectious (a good infectious!)... hell, your enthusiasm got me in no small way to get a couple of R&Ms this season... I’m sure many around the globe did too. Test rode the Nevo, was super impressed by the solid smooth ride. Felt really safe and comfortable.
Nevo 3. Really accomplished design. Love that upper chainstay and belt guard. Dual battery on the rack is sweet... gives the bike great lines. And such a high spec of stuff overall. Has to be THE sturdy step-through hardtail eBike. It feels like one bike that is right in the middle of all the “needs” you could ask for: a real allrounder easy-to-live-with car replacement. 10/10 video Team Propel 👍
Same here - just ordered 2 Nevos. Delivery Mid-August. Looking forward 👍
Great bike, just bought one absolutely amazing, I live in Switzerland so plenty of steep roads, but no problem, also good on gravel paths. Really enjoying life, didn’t get out much before too old for a bike without a motor, now I’m out and about and it helps with my balance problems. It’s expensive but worth it, this bike is quality.
Even if you had a bike before (i had a ebike with 8000km on it) moving to a nevo was a big step, I tried my old bike after about 800km on the nevo and was shocked how much i prefer the nevo.
I ended up buying an E bike from a company that I've bought non e bikes from for a long time, but, Nothing beats how beautiful those R&M bikes are. I drool over all of them. Also, your videos have basically hooked me on E bikes, I'm a huge advocate now.
THAT's my wife's B-day present this year ;) I'll be seeing you guys in Bk. soon. Thank you for all your help in answering my questions Chris & Connor!
Joe
Staten Isl.
Great video as always. I cannot tell you how valuable I found your videos in learning about ebikes and researching them. However, I do have a major problem with this one. I ordered a Nevo3 from you at the end of May. I had no problem waiting two months to get the bike I wanted exactly how I wanted it. Now after watching this video my patience has all of sudden disappeared and I am extremely anxious to get my hands on my Nevo3
Thanks so much for the feedback! I hope you’ll forgive me and R&M for making this video possible before the initial order arrives. Your bike is coming soon though and it should be part of the first batch.
My wife and I saw this video today . as always very informative and in detail specifications. , great job Chris . She loves to have a white one for Christmas . As for me , just received my early Christmas gift , 2020 R&M Super delite Rohloff HS . Awesome machine . Delivered by Chris Nolte !! I was surprised to see Propel founder took some time from his busy schedule and bring my gift to our house in Westwood UCLA . Such a kind , detail oriented and real gentleman indeed ! My experience with Propel organization has been great and very supportive team all along . Chris , when it comes to Ebike , you and your team are contagious . Wish you the best . Dr Nik
Thanks so much Dr. Nik! Your comments are so kind. We can definitely hook you guys up with a white Nevo3. I think you guys will love it!
Love Riese & Muller, amazing bikes!! And excellent video Chris. We really appreciate you providing us with these super high quality, first-look videos with the latest and greatest.
We definitely agree! Thanks so much for the feedback, glad you like them! :)
I think the nevo is my next upgrade from my folding. Thanks propel Electric bikes.
"I realize I say excited a lot" 😆. Love it. The "I'm really..." Bit can stay and on every video you can use a different word each time and it can be your signature habit. People will be excited to know what new substitute word you will use on each new video hehe. Another great review. I love hearing about new ebikes. Still not got one yet though
Love this! I like the different word idea. I can definitely try this. I’m usually just trying to remember all the specs and what I want to talk about so it might be tough. I don’t use any notes or a script, but we’ll see. I really appreciate the support!
Loving this bike! The components, versatility and torque have me considering! Hoping to test ride this bike soon. Ride on!
Thanks for making all of these videos. They're really helpful.
Love your videos, very enlighting and informative. They definitively had a major role on my decision to purchase this model today (I'm in Europe) with the Rohloff option. Cheers and keep it on!
This answers all the questions I had re this updated version of the Nevo, thanks Chris for the great review.
Thanks for posting this, it looks a great bike. I seriously need to sell at least a couple of bikes but once I do this will be top of of my list. I really like the adjustability of the handle bars.
I bought one in July, I love it -its fabulous
Happy Veterans' Day Chris and thank you for your service! Travelled from Upstate NY to the Brooklyn shop and test rode a couple of bikes with Nora (great ambassador for Propel!). Riding on Brooklyn streets as schools let out was an interesting experience. Ended up really liking the Nevo 3, which I hadn't previously considered. So returned to Upstate on Veterans' Day, plied my wife with wine, and called Nora and ordered the Nevo 3 (in stock). I think it's the right choice for a (semi) spry 77 year old. Whole process went smoothly and Nora was great. Very excited about receiving the bike in a couple of weeks. Might look for a guided NYC bike ride in the Spring. The video tour you did got me very excited.
The only thing I'm pondering is best way to securely lock the bike given the lack of a real frame triangle. Any thoughts?
Keep up the great work with the videos, Chris.
Bill G.
Hi Chris Thanks for this vid. Nice bike. Just wondering; can you do a video some time soon about resale of e-bikes? Values etc.?
Good idea
Had a full quad tear two days ago. This low step looking better to me.
When there are so many people who are happy with their Nevo 3 with a 625 watt battery, why is it so difficult to know what the range is when supporting in tour modes?
Great video, as usual!
Beautiful bike.
I am hoping to test ride one of these very soon
Ordered a Charger 3 Vario. Will be nice.
Nice! Congrats!
Thanks Chris. Great Video. I Love My Nevo ... April 2021 It Will Be 3 Years Old. I Am Considering A 28 mph Nevo.... Just Because !!!
Hey Gregg! Hope you are well! The Nevo is such an awesome bike! 28mph sure is fun too! 😊
Hi Chris. I'm 61 inches tall. I'm planning to buy the R & M Nevo 3, but the 43cm frame is limited to 500W battery size and fewer Schwalbe tire options. You're riding the 47cm model in this video. Can I ask how tall are you and do you think that the 47cm is just too big a frame for a 5'1" 120 lbs woman?
The bike looks great but quite massive. What's the weight of one of these new generation r&m bikes? Still possible to put them on a car bike rack?
What’s the weight of this bike?
Very good informative video Chris!
I especially liked the way you shared with us the different models in the RM lineup early in the video. It gives us instant comparisons as to what else is available. Smart!
I own a 2019 Haibike XDuro ALLMtn 6.0 bike......would you take it on trade plus cash for a new RM? Maybe this model or.....?
Thanks and keep up the good work.....you’ve improved over time with the presentations here.
Hi Chris I finally found a R & M dealer in Melbourne , hoping when the pandemic is done i can head over to Melbourne to the R & M dealer !
You can deal with him by phone, email etc, and he will deliver to your home for tests and purchase. (Dolomiti)
My friends and I commute to work in all 4 seasons in the Midwest where we get a lot of snow in the winter and the summer plenty of rain. What tyre would be suggested for for our changing seasons?
choi1061984 I switched to studded snow tires for the winter. Mine are Suomi brand, now called Nokian. Worked very well on my commute which was a mix of ice, snow, and wet and dry pavement.
Chris, as we know the range depends not only on the assistance level applied, but also on battery temperature. Do you know of any method currently available or in development that will maintain the battery at optimum working temperature (like a heated blanket), especially in the cooler climates?
What is thé weight please
Thanks for the good and useful review. Question: Is this bike suitable to use as a touring bike with panniers, i.e. is the chain-stay or in this case belt-stay far enough back so that you don't hit the panniers when cycling with the toe end of your feet on the peddles?
Only assists up to 20 mph which is a huge downside to touring. I would need a different model with 28 mph assist for that.
great review. working hard on july 4th.
Hi Chris. I want to let you know that we really appreciate your videos.
Chris is the Nevo 3 battery chamber exactly the same for the 500 wh battery and the 625 wh? I’m wondering if the 500 would be smaller and wiggle around or possibly disconnect in the chamber if you ordered the 625 version but had a second battery. Thanks
Great video what would you recommend for locking the Nevo 3 bike, I think it would be desirable to bike thieves, so I need to ensure I purchase the right locks at the same time of purchase
Does the display tilt or will it basically become unreadable if you angle the stem backwards to sit in a more upwards position?
Awesome video
Are they going to have the dual side by side batteries soon for the Nuevo 3.5 like the homage
That would be cool, but only time will tell.
I love this bike and drool over it, but would be a nervous wreck leaving it locked and out of sight for more than 2 minutes.
ken gruz Heavy chain lock, wheel lock, and a U-lock. Put the locks in some panniers. Buy e-bike insurance from Velo Insurance.
How is the ride compared to the Homage? Does a heavy bike like this need a rear suspension?
Does R&M publish a sizing chart?
Would like to share (5’9”) with my wife (5’2”). LOVE our Load that we got from you all in Brooklyn and evaluating the next bike!
Yes if you visit the website you will find a chart per bike. Weirdly enough i am missing one model the 47 is 5"4 to 5"9. But there is also a smaller model the 43, here are the sizes in cm ( Nevo GT Framehoogte 43cm (155cm - 170cm) 47cm (165 - 180Cm) 56cm (175 - 195cm) ). The biggest problem is see is maybe adding a different seat post so you can quickly adjust them. Personally my fav now is the vario automatic
Is it a 750 what motor
On my Packster bought one year ago, tubes were using Presta valves; now all R&M bikes seem to be equiped with Shrader (Auto -> car) valves. Do you know why ?
As it is the case with other bikes delivered during 1st trimester (seen in shop), new version of Cane Creek seatpost is used on this new Nevo 3.
And I must wait at least 3 more weeks to get mine... In dark grey, like the one shown in this video, because terra Grey is no more available... Second "why ?".
An, by the way, thank you for your videos and all information you give in them.
Very well done great info. Love the bike however extremely expensive
Can we pedal easily and fast with Power-off on flat terrain?
Would love to know the difference between the Riese Müller charger silent and the Riese & Müller Nevo3?
Can u ride in the rain ?
Thank you Chris for an always informative video. I ordered the new Nevo 3 GT Vario HS and after some thinking, I decided to go for the GX option. I ride 90% on pavement, so based on your point of view, it not might a good idea to the Razor Rack instead of the Moto X, especially when you mentioned that the Moto X might be more 'puncture-resistant' than the Razor Rack. To be honest, I went for the GX option because the $60 was a good investment for things that are included in the option (e.g. Ergon horn grips, pedal, saddle, in addition to the tire). Two questions for you Chris... 1.) Should I buy the Moto X (or other tire) and 2.) What to do you recommend to decrease a puncture if I stick with the Razor Rack.
Also, Would you mind to update this video and give the review for the Nevo 3 but with the HS version.
Thanks in advanced!
Where can I find the serial number?
Maybe you (Chris) didn’t see my recent question re trade so I’ll repost it :
I own a 2019 Haibike XDuro ALLMtn 6.0 FS bike......would you take it on trade plus cash on my end for a new RM?
Thanks !
Oh I see it now. That wasn’t intentional. We could possibly do this. Just shoot us an email and we can see what we can work out.
Beautiful engineering but it's almost too much. My ebike only has a bosch active line+ and a 400watt hour battery but I bet it nearly has the same range and performance because it probably weighs half as much. The bonus being with mine I can easily lift it over fences/gates or throw it in my car.
How much is the bike?
Pergolesi.......They are free..................But they will charge you $7,000.00 for the Battery!
@@1gr8oil I just checked. You're not kidding!!!!! Who are the people buying these things, I have no idea. Sounds ridiculous to me. I think I'll stick with my old $300 fixed gear bike for the time being.
How much, 100.000€?
I recently ordered a Nevo3 here in Germany in high-speed version with perfomance line speed motor. Delivery is on end of July. Are you sure they all get motor-update and the 85 Nm torque ? Some say the speed version will NOT have the update....
I heard that high speed bikes will not get the update in Germany because of the certificate of conformity. Maybe your bike will already ship with the update, but I think it is more of a legal issue than a technical one.
So might not apply for the american market
Diese update für die speed ab modell 2021
@@harrievangeleuken5256 Thanks for the information, though it's rather disappointing....
@@r4z0r1 Thank you ! 👍
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Chris are you so busy that you can’t answer my question below RE; trade with cash for a new RM?
Sure would be considerate to at least post an informative/helpful answer as I’m very interested in a new RM and I live fairly close to your Long Beach store.
Your call .
@Frankie Hoosier Was it a comment? We are a bit behind on answering them.
Can you email us at hello@propelbikes.com?
I just emailed you with the details.
Thanks!
Compare this bike to a Honda supercub c125, I'd take the supercub any day. The Honda is also nearly 2000.00 less and is probably a much better built machine. Now it's not a apple-to-apple comparison but at this price range, you have to wonder if we should start comparing ebikes to small motorcycles.
I think you’re on the wrong channel if you’re interested in gas powered motorcycles.
I still wonder that the step-through frame is marketed as durable as diamond frames. R-M has identical weight limits. As an obese cyclist I wonder if the security margins are the same or not but they probably don't share this due to liability and strategy reasons.
The Nevo3 is available with a HD (heavy duty) option as well which adds another 20 kg's to the allowed total weight (=160 kg's).
@@Hollapopp Just to add (2 years later) the weight is not really set by the frame they are all build the same HS or none HS version and if you think about it that means it has it 'easy' on the 25km version. The weight limit is depending on replaceable parts in this case the steering column (in this video already replaced because of the kiox) the saddle tube and the peddles (where you must be able to stand on them with all that weight). Each bike has the weight limit printed on the mid tube and if you select the correct parts for a little more it should state 160km max.
ほしい
Want
Can I have one for free?
Yes, but I will need to charge you $7,000 for delivery.
Agree that category shouldn't be called a girl bicycle anymore but step through. Girl bicycle is historic when women didn't or rarely wear a pair of trousers while a diamant steel frame provided more stability for heavier men. Today it depands more on purpose and not by what sex the rider has.
I’m
Unless ur buying an ebike with a midddrive motor.
Don't buy an ebike
Get a ekit and install it on a donor bike.
Way cheaper and u get a better bike.
$600 48 v 500 watt kit with battery
Please don't take this personally but there are 2 things you are overlooking. R&M is a highend bike and as such are less 'value'. Second thing is if you plan to ho 20miles/hour you really should have a bike that can handle it that means suspension, spokes, tires and most important breaks. The amount of 20miles or 28miles speed monsters without breaks to match it is just crazy and a danger. Also if you think a upgraded donor bike can match or in your worlds be a better bike is silly you clearly have never been on a R&M bike... Now does that mean these bikes are for everybody nope but having these in the market for people who want them and enjoy them is fine. For me its way cheaper than a car and quicker and give me more joy.
Vvq
very expensive... well, good thing doesn't come cheap