OLD TRUCK COMMERCIALS! (Chevy, Ford, Dodge)
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2020
- This is not a regular type of video for me, but I was bored late at night. I was making this at 4:00 in the morning, so please excuse any errors I made...... Enjoy
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Sorry about some of the commercials, the audio is copyrighted, so I can’t play it, but I really don’t wanna remove the video for you all. Hope you understand.
Thanks for sharing them they brought back such badass memories of just some of the best times
i was wondering what was going on, thanks for informing!!
Where were these shown. I'm in VA and seen similar ads but not these
Thank you much was wondering about the spotty audio
Well in my opinion & comment Chevy builds the most adaptable power there ever has been even for a hot rod they've knock Ford outta the box ever since 1968. As far as Ford Chevy and Dodge go in comparison these days they are in definite competing competition as to which one will rust away faster under the road salts in certain states. As far as Dodge they build the most ill riding most un-user unfriendly piece of shit there ever was or ever will be. Dodge can stick their Hemi power up their own asses if ya can't build a transmission worth a shit. They're all getting to be about the same. Nothing but heartache from the day ya take em home off the lot and the dealers more corrupt than Pelosi and Adam Shifty on their bullshit warranties... Dodge by far loses the market due to their own sheer stupidity. Dodge builds a potent motor with no trans behind it and little if any aftermarket speed parts.. Might as well call Dodge trucks Fiat Motors Inc.... Fix It Again Tony trucks..
Truck commercials had no chill back than chevy and Ford were constantly roasting eachother😂😂😂
While dodge just sits on top👍
@@ThatsYT2i I wonder why I don’t see many old dodges out on the road these days...
@@alecj9227 they have long seemed to have the worst premature corrosion so most of the few remaining older RAM trucks remaining in Eastern Canada have massive rust by the rear wheels.
@@robertsitch1415 I got a little rust above each of my rear wheels in my ‘88 f-250 but I’m gonna take care of it before it gets out of control
@@alecj9227 one of my cousins had an older f 250 with that problem so he welded New sheetmetal in place.
Chevy roasted the crap out of Ford with that apocalypse commercial lol
If GM actually counted Chevy and GMC together, they outsell ford.
All I know if fords suck, chevy/ gmc is ok, and dodge is the way to go
@@gabeackman5741 For me it's: Fords are garbage cans on wheels, dodges are okay, and GM is holy.
@@monte0907 idk its hard to beat a Cummins lol
@@gabeackman5741 it's also hard to keep one of ur transmissions in shape 😂
I’m a ford guy, but that “Dave drove a ford” commercial was pretty funny
Mens trucks have 2 doors and are made out of metal and steel have steel bumpers and are reasonably priced and easy to fix eaven with bone yard parts .simple electrical systems that could be fixed in 1 day .mens trucks could jump and fly just like in that picture with nothing more than a little beer spilled on the floor .todays extremely overpriced pieces of 4 door plastic rusted out electrical messes costing a fortune and rusting out instantly suck they are not a mans truck made for a man buy a man.they are grocery store cars that dont eaven get muddy and still rot out instantly with electrical problems left and right .fuck thease 4 door plastic peaces of shit and the candy asses who design and build them.take the computers out of them put a 4 barrell lower the prices hell eaven put a steel bumper back on them w.t.f.everything costs a fortune how about making a truck we can be proud to drive .a tough one one that can go out in.the woods one with a steel bumper we pay enough money for them why not make something we can be proud of ? W.t.f.
@@brandenbaker5559 preach.
@@brandenbaker5559 my dad refuses to get a 4 door truck. His current truck is a 2020 Chevy Silverado 2500hd regular cab. (Regular cab is a 2 door cab)
@@brandenbaker5559 “metal and steel”? Steel is a metal
back when you could say man or America in commercials
everything has gone to shit.
You can still say those two words, that is as long as you’re trashing them.
@@appalachiangunman9589 it sure a shame
dude what you can b you’re tripping they aren’t fucking illegal mayb advertising strategies have changed since 50 years ago to target different demographics
@@defaultbro2947 50 years? Half of these are 90s XD
This was right before Chevy put the “real people, not actors” commercials in to play
Yeah but now we have Mahk to make fun of them.
@@mattfoltz7752. Yesssss, your totally right
Have not change at all
@@mattfoltz7752 lmao his videos are great
Like a rock and god made a farmer will always be classics, but let’s not forget “got a hemi”
I love the god made a farmer commercial!
It has always been the best always will be
I bet you drive a Honda Ridgeline
It was " is that a hemi" not "got a hemi" . Got milk?
@Kelly kelly thank you for pointing that out. Dodges motto should be " Buy dodge , we even outsourced our engine to a vendor because we couldn't have done better on our own , we tried with transmissions and we all know how that went , Buy dodge !!"
3:15, I can attest, the paint really will do that.
I laughed when I seen the commercial lmao 🤣
LOL.
That early 90’s GM paint
Never had any paint problems out of chevy only my dodge has had that problem and my dodge had the problem of dash cracking
I had a 91 blazer will second this
Back when they built and marketed trucks for working instead now they are like look at our heated seats
You cant beat an old c10 or f100
i mean ur out in winter dealing with calves in blizzard heated seats are nice.
@@FastDuDeJiunn trust me, i live in Massachusetts, winter is hell, heated seats are nice, but not needed
Yeah I love in northern michigan and it get preet cold out but just turn the heat on my dude
I'm waiting for a truck equipped with a driver's seat commode...and a kitchen sink on the dash...why not - trucks nowadays are rolling houses! Lol!😋👍
S10 pickup for 8,000 dollars what a filthy economy we live in now the new trucks are over 50,000 dollars
Well there are many reasons, like inflation, higher manufacturing cost with safety features, better engineering etc. I do wish there were better options though.
The new Colorado are around 35,000. Still seems a little outrageous.
You're being a bit egregious.
The Colorado starts at $25,500.
Same thought. I'm going looking for my 88 s10
I don't know.....nobody would advertise 6.9% financing now days....lol
I like how Chevy's commercials are about what the truck can actually do in practical settings and Ford's are all gimmicky and Dodge is all like "WE ARE MANHOOD".
Pulling a Jet is practical? lol
Chevy boy over here
@@00700556 I mean that's the straw here compared to the rest of them. It's an ancient commercial from a time when people didn't think so good anyhow.
@@thebitlotYou ever seen the square body pulling the log train commercial? Ford and Chevy both loved random TV stunts like pulling a 747 or putting a Chevy in the bed and going up a rocky mountain. There wasn't much talk of reality from either.
Coulda sworn i just watched an f-150 put a truck in the bed and pull a truck up a hill made of cinder blocks.
But go ahead and cope with your V-6 s-10 with the blam-o-matic transmission 😅
If the Dodge commercials in the 80’s were like the ones today they’d be saying “the only full-size pickup with a 4-inch LCD clock”.
When trucks weren’t cars...
Wow this comment got popular thanks for the heart and 232 likes!
Lol yeah but where's the IH commercials,"we build tractors".
Yeah like seriously they’re supposed to be built for work not big cars
Except the S-10
@@donoberloh there is an exception for those since they are great show trucks
@@donoberloh at least nowadays
Now, some short guy buys a jacked up crew cab dually diesel with ugly rims and all sorts of stickers on it, and never takes it offroad or hauls. Back then you could do all that stuff with the base model
you forgot to add the squatted part
I think it applies to average and taller guys , but they lack in the meat department for the ladies . So that's the only way they can show off -
Those kind of trucks are called Highway Princess's..
Gotta love a 'mall crawler' lol.
Fun fact, 4 out of 5 jeep wranglers have never been off pavement.
Ah the 70s when life was simple and a true man liked football, drank beer, read the newspaper, and drove a pickup, life is too complicated now
Old trucks rock !!! New trucks suck !!!
Not near as many people drove pick ups then. One thing u don’t see now is 4 door sedans with buck shots on the back out in a paster
@@parkermckowen3781 exactly, and thats what I plan on doing, with a 60s car
IKR
Racing>team sports always has been better and always will be. Also real men drink whiskey or bourbon.
I'm I the only one who misses when it was dodge ram and not just ram
YEP, Now it's a Fiat!!!
I call em Dodge Ram still anyway
@@owenmessal1155 yea me to
Remember when dodge pickups and ramchargers had 2 doors and were made out of metal and steel how about the m37 and power waggon .the new rams arent dodges they are made out of plastic have computers everything is electric and they have 4 doors .no great loss time for dodge to step it up and bring back a 2 door metal and steel pickup and suv with no plastic like ford did with its new bronco .
@@brandenbaker5559 the new bronco is all aluminum and plastic like the ram trucks are now lol. They have to use aluminum for weight savings because they just make vehicles bigger now and stuff it full of electronics, safety and luxury stuff adding complexity and weight.
What people didn't realize is that a 90 horsepower tractor drags around that same 747 .
Very different gearing though
If you got a diesel vs. Gasoline torque test, a diesel would pull 3x harder. The higher compression makes much more torque, not to mention the turbos and adding boost.
@@matthewmorgan582 yeah but diesels aren't shit without their turbo. What about having them both be naturally aspirated or put a supercharger on that gasser. Be a lot more fair then. In the end though unfortunately electric vehicles are the most powerful.
I'd say gearing in low range 4x4 is about tractor speed.
@@dieseldouche7735 You are exactly right that diesels are only worth half these days without the turbo . My dad however had a GM truck and a Timberjack 228 with a supercharged Detroit diesel . Oh - the raw power -
man, dave really just had to drive a ford
Dodge the best
@TOM M Not with that death wobble, and there are like no fords on the road compared to chevy.
@@fintansky9369 fords literally the best selling truck 43 years in a row maybe in the city people drive Chevy but anyone that really does work with their truck buys a ford
I'm still trying yo figure out how you're supposed to work with these new trucks with the bed rail at shoulder height, I'm ready for them to get the height lowered a bit
@@matthewhoffman9242 I agree with you on that. What's the purpose of a 4' deep 5.5' long bed
13:03 After seeing all those Chevy adds dissing Ford, thats hilarious.
😂😂😂😂
I got a ford ad in the middle of a ford ad
LMAO
Lmao
Same
When you could openly swear in an advertisement
Before all the PC bullshit....damn I miss those days.lol
I’m not sure that that awesome ad ever aired outside of maybe on the Howard Stern Show.
You couldn't openly swear at that time either , an otherwise decent movie would get an R-rating for swearing like that.
Also "Gone with the wind" was considered controversial and vulgar for the line "frankly my dear , I don't give a damn"
@@MrStacy1974 👍🏻
My Grandad has a 1974 Chevy custom deluxe 10 with a 454 motor So far is been pretty damn dependable because it’s the only truck in the family and it still kicks ass
Nice
Chevys are unreliable pieces of shit, I've owned a cavalier and a Silverado, my sister owned a traverse, and they have all broken down in the first 2 years of ownership, luckily we grew up and started buying toyota.
It’s probably because you all suck at maintaining them every vehicle will need maintenance and if they were made before Trump was president then that’s probably why , the 70s were a good year for Chevrolet trucks because things back then were made too last
@@elgayetas my dad has had his Silverado for almost two years and so far nothing bad has happened just gotta keep up the maintenance and take care of it 🤷🏼♂️
same with my dads 1975 ford f-150, trucks just aren't made like they used to be...
Remember when Nissan pulled that plane thinking they were all badass? Chevy: hold my beer 🍺😂
Nissan: - engages transmission - "that aint the only thing these hands can hold chevy" ;) - revs engine -
When RUclips only shows videos I've already watched, to the point where I would literally rather watch commercials.
*after hearing the term "off road" is no time to discover your off road package is little more than decals*
my favorite one
"Ford Ranger built Texas tough"..... in St. Paul, MN. Lol. (RIP Twin Cities assembly line)
My 2001 Ranger was built in Edison, NJ. That plant's gone too.
And prices have gone up
Man I love watching the add of the ford f250 6.9 l diesel pull the Chevy and the dodge up the rock hill same year as my truck and the same paint job
Devin Studer damn that commercial was savage!
So your telling me not one rock on that hill moved when that truck climbed and you believe that bullshit
@@Mudslinger2011 lol fr doesn’t make any sense
When I heard that” like a rock “ it took me way back!
“ and if there’s any day light left,we’ll take norm up to see the lady’s” 😂😂love that
That Silverado Like A Rock commercial is embedded in the back of my brain forever from my childhood haha
I have a 67 F100, and a 65 C10. The 67 is mine and the 65 C10 was my Dad's. Both with a 4 on the floor. The Chevy has a posi rear end, but I got laid by a red head in the ford. They need to bring back bench seats.
Id take any of the earlier year trucks by any of the big 3 companies. Love the basic styling and also just simplistic ruggedness.
Any ford dodge and Chevy in the 1970s were the best !! I love them all 😎👌
Reminds me of my bike. All the kids in my neighborhood have $500 bmx bikes they clean 24/7 and never take offroad or stunt, yet I have a $30 1960's beach cruiser that I can do literally anything with and take offroad
Wouldn't want these "snowflakes to get hurt ",over protected kids with helicopter moms, and it's no wonder they stay home!
Yea but you can’t tho, you couldn’t take it to a bike park where they have 55ft jumps they ride on 4K mountain bikes,
lol i bet your idea off offroad is a dirt trail
Chevy and Dodge: *doing demonstrations*
Ford: we sell more so we must be the best
They didn’t need a bailout did they?
Ford had Jaguar and several others they sold off. Take off government and rental agencies and Ford wouldn't be the best sellers
Thats 67 ford football commercial was pretty damn cool
Watching these commercials takes me back to sitting on the floor at my grandma's house watching her giant console Zenith.
@Orion Late 20s actually.
I bleed Ford Blue, but Chevy's "Like a Rock" is probably THE best ad campaign ever. I'm not just talking automotive ads. I mean all ads ever.
Bruh these old truck commercials are dope but we we aren't seeing are some of the legit weeiird old dodge commercials. Old Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth commercials had some of the most oddly fascinating surgically scientific showoffs tests that youd ever seen. Like they're were HELLA trying to sell you something - but it was all scientificly tested and almost felt detached. There's a saying of "Chrysler was king in the 60's" and it's due to how oddly and seriously their engineering was. Same reason why Mopars are always kind of left out of the whole Ford vs Chevy thing. They were doing their own weird ass thing that somehow kicked ass. But mannnn did that travel through some of their commercials. You wanna see a funny one check out the "Turboencabulator" where they make fun of themselves in their own style.
lmaooo, the turbo encabulator vid is the best xD
the turboencabulator video is not a production of chrystler or any other car brand.. bud haggert the guy reading the script came up with it, and shot it in the studio after doing a filming for some GM commercial as a joke since thats what all the scripts sounded like to him
Didn't go old school enough. I'd give my new pick-up for a late 40s early 50s Dodge Power Wagon.
Exfuckingactly
In one commercial Chevy bashed fords 6 cylinder, and in the next bragged about their own, interesting marketing decision 😂
No no, these commercial are “real people, not actors”
Loved the “That got a hemi?” commercials.
12:50 I'm Chevy all the way, but damn, that was funny!
Loved the old "heartbeat" era Chevy trucks. 👍
Chevy was really high off their own hype.
Yup 😂 no way in hell can a lil chevy v6 beat even that 302 with a staggering 150 hp
That’s a bad thing?
@@nathan7627 well they were smoking dick thinking a v6 could beat a v8
They probably thought the 6.5 diesel was better than the 7.3 Powerstroke.
@Berkeley Donohue
Never said it was, I suppose I was supposed to call it by it's real name, the International T444E
I love how the dodge truck commercials brag about not rusting😂
The 70’s and 80’s Truck commercials are by far the best... Back when a Truck was “A Truck”.
Made it all the way through the Chevy commercials and on the first Ford commercial... An Ad !😊 I love it!
Dave was drunk, he took his wife's truck. Dave's wife survived and is doing well in her new Chevrolet.
Thats what happens when you are such a Dave
So, now that those five guys have met up, what will they do now, that they're out of gas?
“Turbo hydro matic transmission”😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Ikr
It because of the turbine in the torque converter that they had the name in it along with it load capacity
That's what's tied to my 1970 Buick GS455...400TH (Turbo Hydro-matic).
Better than a c-4 or c-6 . C stands for crap -
Having just bought a late model 98 Ram 1500,l laughed my ass off when the Ford was towing a Ram with a Chev in the bed..Great video...thank you
IF you could buy a compact pickup these days, you couldn't do it for less than $17,000 unless it's used.
And while the price goes up, the quality goes down. This is true with Ford, Chevy, and Dodge.
Awesome seeing those vintage commercials.
I live in a country where competitive advertising is illegal. Love the way the pull each other apart.
10:40 that’s the best commercial I’ve seen
🤣
That's how my dad keeps his truck. Bed is beat up from work, inside get detailed regularly.
Dave drove a ford 😂
Lol... i still think chevy had the corniest commercials.. (i own all three so no badgering)
Which one's your favorite?
@@pixelbucket8884 the funniest had to be the truck pulling the 747..
Badger badger
Hahaha... yep, that one too
Pretty sure he's asking which is your favorite truck, not commercial 😂
After reading some comments, how many AREN'T here from Mrs whistlindeisel & have no clue who she even is? ME!!
I'm not what even is that
I’m lost.
Her husband is a idiot that likes to hop up diesel trucks and then ruin them doing stupid shit. Now you are all caught up. I have no clue her name or comment as I am also here for the trucks.
Who is whistling diesel?
@@Superstallion1993 As I stated already he is a idiot with a YT channel that likes to tear up diesel trucks. Evidently some people like him not sure why. Look him up if you want to know. This thing called Google is amazing it will answer all kinds of questions.
Me with a 1959 Ford with a 292 v8 and able to haul more than a chevy today
I have a '60 with a 292 Y-block, one of the best running trucks I've ever owned.
I highly doubt it would even come close to out pulling my 08 LMM deleted and EFI Live tuned Duramax diesel. She'll also do 0-60 in the 4 second range. Pulls 60 to 120 faster than most trucks going from 0 to 60. Gets 22mpg daily driving. It's my 5th truck and the best one I've ever had. Hasn't lost to a SuperDuty or Cummins yet and hasn't lost to a gas burner either.
You cant haul more than a chevy today. You might really like your truck, but a 292 isnt hauling the same as a new truck today. Not even anywhere close.
@@CamAteUrKFC it all depends on the driver and the hearing and weight the vehicle has
One you are seriously deletional to think it can out pull a new truck. And two there is no way in hell those old drum brakes and single non power master cylinder was ever safe in 59 but for damn sure are not today. People take old cars and trucks and put modern suspension and drive trains in them because they love the looks but hate the performance.
I remember sitting in front of my grandmas ancient antenna tv and seeing some of the newer ones when I was little.
❤️❤️😘🙏🏼💕means a lot to me seeing this man thank you , the first one ☝🏼 wow that late 80’s early 90’s transition are my all time favourite era it’s my generation and it’s so awesomest to revisit that era the fashion the vehicles the culture that was a very beautiful times , all the best thank you from Australia 🇦🇺
No problem man!
Toby Keith is savage😂😂
Would have been cool to see the Little Red Expess commercial....but good job
Did that little sh*tbox had a 383 under the hood ? I remember the dual stack though.
@@rverro8478 it was actually the fastest production American car or truck that year. It beat the Corvette, mustang and Camaro in the quarter mile .
"It was not only a real looker but these trucks were also real performers. In 1978 the Dodge Lil' Red Express was the fastest American made production vehicle from 0 to 100mph as tested by Car and Driver magazine."
360ci, 355 posi rear end,
727 transmission.
Very far from a sh"tbox.....
@@Eaveszx14 very well said, accurate and true, ... my friend ..
Ford - "if you want fucking stunts, see a fucking movie!" Lol
Owned em all The Fords were the best ones I owned.
I’d sure like to have a new 1992 ranger . The one in my driveway has a bed case of salt mites . But it’s still running.
I'm gonna get a 1999 dodge ram 1500. I love those 2nd gen dodge trucks
Great choice
318 or 360
@@jacobmullins3644 318
@@moparchopper4464 360
IN all of the Chevy and most ford commercials they are compairing Chevy to ford but Dodge is never mentioned also the best dodge commercial is when they introduced the hemi in a truck
Love the half hour advertisement on the 1994 series of trucks which one of them was used in the movie Twister.
When you’ve got the best 2 trucks made, you don’t think about what’s below you.
@@jackwatters9502 nah, they just didn't want the smoke. Mopar has always been wild and willing to build some crazy shit. Like they stuck the V10 out of a viper into a little pickup because "why not" lol. Or the fact that while everyone else was throwing 4 bangers and V6s into compact/midsizes, they decided to say fuck it and put a V8 in the Dakota. Even to this day they say "why not?" And build some enthusiast's wet dream like a 1000 ho crate engine or a 700 hp offroad truck like the TRX that'll be coming out soon.
Being an old fart, I really don't remember seeing nearly any of these commercials! Hmm. Well, after the trucks pulled an airplane, mining equipment, trees, all I can say is that the trucks still have usable body parts! LOL. 😄
Dodge and Chevy for me 😎 didnt watch bs by ford
Mrs. Whistlindiesel sent me
Chevy is so Americanized.
And I love it.
I want the 3rd Chevy (the one pulling the plane). Not because it can do it... but that it's great looking. :) And this from a die hard Ram truck owner. :)
that was awesome, so many memories
Dave did not make it bc he drove a ford lol wtf
The "like a rock" commercials were the best! Bob Seger is great!
But I'm a dodge guy so...
Like a rock now that is funny, considering how (poorly)they were built, even worse now they can't pass a crash test at all
I was born in ‘98 so most of these commercials are before my time. But these commercials are just more inviting and have more character than the ones today
75 % of Ford trucks are still on the road , the rest of them made it home .
Ha ha ha, that was great!!!! That's one of the best ones I've heard in a long time. Gonna have to tell that one to the ford lovers at work.
@@77knez It was written across the back of a Dodge , I laughed .
That’s a classic way of badgering
Check NJ junk yards. If you need body parts, there are dozens of Ford pickups with blown motors to choose from. Chevy you have at best a 50/50 chance to find a truck that is not wrecked out of a half dozen or so, but most would still have a running motor. Dodge are a rare find in the junk yard and even more rare to find one that is not heavily wrecked, and rarer still a blown motor.
Given how many pristine Ford trucks are in the junk yard seems to be the reason Ford sells more trucks: to replace the ones with blown motors. Don't get me wrong, I think Ford has some of the best styling and certainly the best interior layout, but since they stopped building their straight 6, their motors just don't last.
13:05 TAKE TWO Best commercial ever. 🇺🇸
Chevy fan here. That's the best one from Ford
13:50 when dodge integrated the fuse box into the upper dash cuz everybody knows dodge wiring lmfao
Chevy. Like a rock…doesn’t move and is good for a door stop or holding your papers in place.
A truck ad played before this video
bababoi
Chevy: Built like a rock. Ford: Built like a rock crusher Ford. I love ford
$8,000?!? EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS??!!?! sign me up! I still see those things kickin' around now over 30 years later!
The Mayan apocalypse one was the best.
Why is there a giant arrow pointing to a tire with a circle around it in the thumbnail
Yes! WHY?…………WHY?
"hey that thing got a hemi?"
The fact that everyone of us who weatched this video actually wanted to watch commercials
Mrs.whistlingdiesel sent me
Todays Chevy truck could pull a loaded 747 with it's thrust reversers going up a 11% grade through the Rocky Mountains. Don't even get me started on what a Dodge can do !
Better get my boots on, because it's getting deep in here!
Yeah,Yeah you also had to go home or stop at a phone booth to make a call, Go to the bank to make a deposit or transaction, sit in your living room to watch T.V. and be there when it's on or you miss it. This is when 150HP to 300 HP was a lot. Apples to Oranges much.
@@fastnasty6627
Well who knows, maybe tomorrows Chevy truck will be able to reach orbit in less than ten minutes but then we would be talking apples and oranges of the future depending on how far mankind makes it.
My 67 short box c10 with 283 v8, 2 speed power glide is such a pleasure...
Hairy!just lucky it hasn't blown or burnt up, they were like that from 67 to 86 a real blast for sure
@@bradzimmerman3171
F-ound
O-n
R-oad
D-ead
You can't kill a sbc
12:50 damn Ford made a huge comeback with that ad
I seriously doubt any overpriced plastic modern eggshell on wheels will outlast these old Fords, Chevys, and Dodges you see on these commercials.
out last NO. Out preform every time!
The crash tests are much better for the new ones
I only came here for Dodge
Driving a 1996 Ford F-150, handles like a dream, pulls like a horse.
Back in the 1990 they actually show the durability today it just shows the trucks driveing on the road
RIP Dave 🤧🤧
This is when America was great.
That 460000 towing cap was impressive
Man they used to beat the hell out of trucks in those old commercials.
Any chance you can correct the massive sound fluctuations?