Sometimes the kids have to know the truth about what's going on. Now they see that their grandparents and aunt are not for them. Especially a gift from their dad. That's selfish of the family.
@@hangingwithkelz3376 That was my take here. The parents call the ATV just a toy and that's all it is. It's a toy that the Father bought the kids that they can remember their father. Yes its the kids that are paying the price.
@@hangingwithkelz3376 yeah but situations like this can make kids grow up way too fast and not get to enjoy their childhood. They don’t need to be worrying about these kinds of issues at that young age
This is one of the saddest things I’ve seen on The People’s Court in a long, long time. Those three kids are sitting there trying not to cry while the grownups in their lives behave like absolute morons. Those kids need a family, not an ATV.
yes!! i 100% agree, the last thing they need right now is an ATV for god sake. Probably just the mother that try to get it back to make some quick cash
They're mother did the right thing by showing their kids to not let people push you around and take advantage of you. I believe she did awesome in that aspect. That's what you need to teach your children. She taught them to not let people regardless to take advantage of you.
Judge Judy would’ve sent those poor kids outside the courtroom to protect them from all this. This was so sad. My heart goes out to every last one of them ♥️
Bad judgment for MM to ask about the aunt and father, and for the mother to answer plainly, in front of those kids. And their father isn't even alive to defend himself against such allegations if he were so inclined.
@@dragames I don't know if he did or didn't, and neither do you. This family is clearly seriously messed up so you'll forgive me if I don't just blindly believe one side when the other Is deceased and therefore can't give their side of the story. Either way, that's something the kids should get dragged through.
As a kid that’s been in a toxic family like this, it’s insulting to pretend that the kids aren’t mature enough to interpret what’s going on. I’m sure they’ve seen all the fighting first hand and they’ve heard everyone in the family talk bad about family members that they love. In my opinion, trying to shield those children from stuff they already know and have heard would be a distraction from the help they really need which is therapy for everyone. To finally see an honorable adult put their loved ones in a place that holds them accountable without demonizing them is something that could very well inspire hope for them. And it certainly helps that they were able to hear out loud how deserving they are of healthy relationships and love, who knows if they’ll ever hear it again.
I just have this gut feeling that her sister and husband was having an affair , her parents probably found out but didn’t want any part of the drama 🤦🏻♀️
I feel the same way. That rage the plantiff has didn't come from nowhere. The parents knew, said they didn't want to be involved, so it registered as a double slap in the face, because the parents didn't at least validate her feelings that being cheated on (and with her sister!) was wrong. The defendants wanted their cake and to eat it too, by choosing not to pick sides. They're just facing the consequences of that. Not that I think the plantiff is behaving very well either. And if we're wrong, then she's way out of line. But if we're right, at least that would explain her behaviour. (It's also telling that the sister is lording her executor status over on the plantiff as well.)
@@pseudobean3827 Ummm. I didn't see 'rage' from the plaintiff. I saw someone who's frustrated her sister and parents; someone who can't make progress because the parents have a hand in disrupting the harmony. If my parents wouldn't allow my child to have a phone for me to contact them when away from me, I'd also limit the visits.
@@pseudobean3827 They not only refused to acknowledge the harm the cheaters caused....they took the grandchildren's atv to the home wrecking sister, who promptly locked it up & now refuses to give it to the children. So they really did "take a side"--they took the home wrecker's side. It's no wonder the children's mother is frustrated, hurt, & angry. But she needs to spare the children further anxiety & just move on. Sometimes you have to put your own feelings aside to do what's best for your children. If that includes disowning the home wrecking sister & the parents in order to have a peaceful & happy future, so be it. An atv is just stuff. Stuff can be replaced. Causing the children stress & anxiety over replaceable stuff is just wrong.
Mother bought the kids to gain sympathy. She's a manipulator. Blamed her sister for her divorce stating her sister chose his side. If her sister had to choose his side, that means there was already friction between her and her husband. Then 6 months after Jim died, she cuts off all communication from her family.. probably because she married the "other guy" at that time and didn't want her family to know. I'm not finished watching this case so I hope she loses this case. She just doesn't want her sister to have anything that belonged to her.
What was the purpose of the plaintiff even bringing her kids into court to witness this drama? They look sad and confused. She's just using the ATV and her kids as a pawn for deeper issues she has with her sister. Her children's mental health is way more important than an ATV.
I think they got drag in it so they had to come for the ride. Sadly rumours and gossips in the family travel so far and children are usually chess pieces between adults. They would hear something and it is a disaster if they got manipulated. It is not ideal but they are not born in ideal life nor to ideal parents. If this is what they need to go through to pass whatever mess the sister / ex husband did .. and is haunting them .. there be it.
I believe the plaintiff’s sister had an affair with her ex brother -in-law; leaving her the executor of his estate added insult to injury! The plaintiff needs to let her anger and bitterness go so that she can heal and focus on her new life and husband. There’s no way her kids should’ve been on court today. It’s not about the atv. She’s blaming her parents for the actions of her sister and dead ex! She needs to let go and give it to God!
Kids being present....absolutely a screwed up decision by the judge and the family. Makes me sick. I don't know if I can ever watch this program again.
yup Judge Judy has it right.....she sends children out of the court before the case starts. That sister needs to go before a judge....there's NO way that an executor should be taking that long to do her job. All the best to you!
Noooo, the husband knew that she would spend and sell everything so this was the only way to make sure the kids had something when they get older , otherwise why wouldn't he just straight up leave it to the sister
There was definately an inappropriate relationship with the sister. It's obvious. Did he not have a will? Where is his family? The kids wanted the ATV which is what kicked this off, and why they were there. They should have been dismissed from the courtroom. Also, it appears that the kids had been riding the ATV up until the point their father died. which there would be no reason for the plaintiff to ask for it because they had access to it. The parents don't want to get involved, but they should have just gone and got the ATV for the kids, instead of taking a step back. The sister has the leverage since she's the executer. Also, I wouldn't allow my parents to see my kids either if they knew my sister was sleeping with my husband, and they refused to draw a line, or at the very least advocate for me. I wish the plaintiff would have just said that, but I feel like she didn't because the kids were there- which is why they should have been dismissed. But that sister was definately having a relationship with the plaintiff's ex husband, and the parents knew.
@Annie497 Listening to the grandparents state they didn't want the kids to contact mom when they were with the grandparents, and the fact they sued the daughter to try to get grandparents rights and visitation? The kids were placed in the middle of the grownups when the grandparents acted like that. The grandparents put them in the middle fighting for custody that they had no rights to.
@Annie497 did you drive him to suicide? If they did shun you and you didn't, then why are you letting your kids around them? Just so you can say in a youtube comment section "I'll lead by example" Dude, you just gave your kids to more bs. You didn't defend them from anything. You don't let them come by until you vet they're safe and healthy for them to be around. Not just to posture and then have some random on the internet call out your bs.
Wow! Her husband slept with her sister, and the parents minded their business. WHY WOULD THEY TAKE THOSE KIDS THINGS TO HER HOUSE?! Her parents are toxic… and she was right to cut everybody off. The kids didn’t need to be in the courtroom.
yup! agreed! Judge Judy has it right....kids that age are taken out of the court room before the case starts. Sister should be a bit careful....executors should NOT be taking that long to distribute the dead person's belongings. All the best to you!!
i don’t think the mom is an angel either, bringing the children into court and involving them at least somewhat in her familial issues like keeping them from grandparents (who the kids likely want to see if the mom agreed to it after their court case) is terrible. using your kids as pawns in family drama is heartbreaking. everyone in that family needs to focus on putting those kids first and keeping them out of the drama, it’s sad to see so many grown adults do this to children they say they love. i truly hope those kids are in a good place now!
@@Kayla-rd5jd yes, i like the way Judge Judy has children removed from the court before they hear a word. Young kids...and even older ones....don't need to hear moms and dads slaning another person....or getting embarrassed on National TV. Kids have it hard enough these days!!
@@kittyfan You keep saying that, but it is not true. With all the lawsuits going on it can take years to finally sort things out. We don't know what he had put in his final will or who he had listed on his life insurance. Besides, why does she have to be careful, someone going to take away her birthday.
The parents are toxic? WTF? They aren't the ones that used the kids as pawns in the courtroom. Also, you have know clue if they slept together, just like the wife. His wife doesn't exactly seem like a pleasant woman to be around so maybe he brought her along all the time as a buffer. The parents did mind their business. All they did was move the shit out their garage to make room. Plus she was the executor so it makes total sense to move everything there. You make no sense.
@@barbarabazin9570 wasn't talking about the daughter holding the son's hand. The older boy sitting on the other side of the little boy. Not once did I think the daughter was a boy.
Exactly! When they kept saying they didn't want to "take sides" or "get involved", it always seemed in a way that benefited the other sister. Oh we're not taking sides but we gave your sister the ATV. We don't want to get involved but you shouldn't divorce your husband despite us having nothing to say about your sisters involvement in it. There is a reason why the plaintiff was *obsessed* with sides. She talked about it constantly. Her parents were on her husband's side, her husband wasn't on her side, etc. While this is a toxic trait, it is very often born out of feeling unsupported or neglected. The whole family is dysfunctional at this point. When asked at the end of court their thoughts, the adults were STILL going on about the stupid ATV while *again* not saying one word about the kids or what they want to happen with the relationships, despite the note JM finished on. I feel terrible for the kids; they are now also unsupported by the adults in their life, and clearly are filling that gap by supporting each other. Hopefully their dynamic and love doesn't get tainted by what they're seeing and hearing.
A nasty divorce, and manipulative and vindictive aunt in the middle, wars between Mom and absolutely every other important adult in the family. The kids are soooo sick of this crap and so completely trapped by it.
and it's disgusting that so many people are blaming the mom for being the victim of it all alongside the kids. She didn't ask her parents to gaslight her and 'not pick sides' by picking sides. She didn't ask for the husband and sister to pull these massive cunty moves; cheating on her, screwing her out of the estate and insurance, etc. Everyone IS against her, it's not her just feeling it. The grandparents are against her simply because they CAN'T be against the sister and that's what this whole thing boils down to. Everyone doing everything for the sister.
The “sister” being the executor of the estate was sheer evil . The sister is pure and utter evil for getting in the middle . My brother did the same thing, God has a special place in hell for a sibling who steals from another one ..
He put her in the spot, she didn't take it. Besides, did you see the way she acted in court, I think he made a wise move not to trust her with the estate.
@@chrisshaffer2672 WOW, you just don't get it ..... You must have a streak of evil in you... It was clear that the life insurance policy of 250,000 was to be FOR THE KIDS .... The ATV was FOR THE KIDS ..... THERE IS ZERO REASON for the sister to sit on the estate while the money from the policy and the ATV depreciates in value due to inflation .. If you can't see that you are really something .. The moms attitude is NOT relevant ... This was an estate that BELONGS to his children ...
@@doozowings4672 You obviously know nothing about the legal system. Please don't comment on my posts again. I don't have the time. Again he appointed her, she didn't appoint herself. He obviously did not trust her with the task. Why? Well just watch and listen to her. She brought a frivolous lawsuit against her parents over nothing.
The sister should have distributed the estate already; it's been 4 years. The estate should be distributed to the kids but the sister doesn't want to do it because of the mom. Likely, in the sister's eyes, the wife was preventing her from being with the husband and despises the wife because of it.
I know the mom needs help with anger and hurt BUT can you imagine her sister withholding from her kids after ( most likely) screwing her husband behind her back after allowing her to move in to help and having your parents just not doing anything to keep the peace. " I don't know any facts but he'll if that ain't hurtful
@Melanie D seriously, everything about the case tells you that the sister was sleeping with ex and that's what causes the marriage to break up. The parents new, but chose the daughter they favour the most.
Sister and husband was having a affair and I feel like the parents were mad she divorced him because he had money . So they was mad when she did . I also think the parents aren’t giving support to the daughter like she needs . They favor other daughter
I felt the judge handled this carefully and wisely. Claims are dismissed. This is something that small claims can't get involved in. My father taught me years ago, "sometimes you have to lose in order to win" What are you winning? Peace of mind and peace between each other. I've applied this to many areas of my life. It just goes a long way. Best to this family.
TIOTALLY AGREE! No reason for them to be in court. I almost feel that when things started to get really bad, the Judge should have had the children wait outside- but I think she didn’t because she wanted the kids to see the Judge talking to their grandparents and mother and setting them straight...
@@thebalderthor4884 who cares if its a studio....the fact that the mom brought the kids was wrong. Sometimes i don't like how judge Judy acts but i do agree with dreamingfool2 that judge Judy would have sent the kids out cause kids don't need to be exposed to adult issues like that. I know cause growing up watching my parents crap affected me alot. Let kids just be kids and not have to worry about adult things.
I disagree. I think the sister was screwing her husband and her parents took the sister's side. The sister has no right keeping those kids inheritance from them, and the grandparents had no right giving the stuff to her sister.
@@mrmc9278 As much as I might agree they had no choice. If she is the executor of the estate and she demands the brothers property they have to give it to her. That being said she's expected to distribute the property not keep it. However unless theres a time limit clause she can take literally forever to do it. She needs to sue the sister. Still dont care for her attitude.
@@picallo1 how happy would you be to have your whole entirely family against you, lying to you, and keep saying "We're not choosing sides, but we're choosing sides against you" horse shit? The plaintiff was absolutely not making that up. The defendants only said they weren't taking sides because being against the ex would be the same as being against the sister. So by that logic, they were taking the sister's side.
I think the parents (grandparents) who claims to not to want to get involved are actually causing a great deal of conflict . Why did they give the ATV to the other sister???
Yeah at the same time they knew it was a Christmas gift that belong to the kids. The only reason it was in the fathers name is because it can’t be in the children’s name because they were minors when it was purchased. The grandparents were just storing it. If the sister called for it and asked for it I would have told her the children already picked it up with their mother. Called the children’s immediately after I got off the phone with her and said come get this atv, before your sister finds out it’s still here.
I'm a relationship counsellor in the UK and nothing shocks me anymore. We have an organisation called Relate that used to be for marriage counselling, its more up to date now. But some of the things I've seen and heard 🤦♀️ people will do anything to justify cheating, lying, etc.
The grandma said "it was just a toy" and yet couldn't release it to the kids but complicated the issue by assisting to get it locked up... They obviously know what they are doing...
@@blueglassesgirluk9445 no, the sister claimed it was an asset of the estate. The atv ewas legally titled in the dead guy's name, so the grandparents HAD to give it to the executor.
@Keith Sergent being bitter that her sister was having an affair with her husband?!? Then wrongfully holding things in the estate that belongs to the children and yeah to the ex-wife. She deserves all of it after being put through what she has. Cheating is one thing but keeping in the family is just disgusting!! 🤢🤮 sounds like karma came knocking at the ex-husband's door and it will eventually catch up to good old sis too! You don't get to always get away with being a trash box person and get away with it. Mom and Dad sound like their inches away from defending it. Child or not you don't support your child in being a trash box! You can love your children and still not agree with the trashy things they do, and if they don't want anything to do with you bc you won't placate to their trash behavior well then you got to love them from a distance.
@Keith Sergent no I don't find it odd. I find it odd that ppl have become so desensitized in this world that we blame the victim and we judge how someone else handles trauma. She should have left her kids at home and she is suing the wrong ppl but she definitely should fight for that estate and everything in it, bc it belongs to her kids, and they're minors, and can't fight it for themselves. It's our jobs as parents to fight for our children's rights when they cannot.
@Keith Sergent I wouldn't want to leave my children with adults who condone the behavior of the sister and husband. I would question their morals and their judgment as adults. I don't just trust anyone with my kids. Just bc your title is Grandma or Grandpa doesn't make you a trustworthy person. I agree there is a lot to this story we only get about 15 mins.
The parents are weak and their decision to stay neutral speaks to their complicity in this situation. They should be ashamed of themselves for choosing to do nothing. It is obvious that the sister kept the money and provided the parents with financial support from the insurance payout. The estate should have been settled years ago. With Covid, the sister is going to stretch out settling the estate even longer.
They also knew that their golden child was sleeping with their daughters husband.. that’s why they didn’t want anything to do with it but they will gladly take the financial support that comes from it and then they try and sue the mother so they can get legal time to spend with their grandchildren that they’re really not trying to help.. to be honest everybody in this case is selfish. (Not the kids obviously)
That’s not true. They stayed neutral bc the children love both their parents, and that way they’re not saying or doing anything to put him down in front of them.
I do feel bad for the kids they shouldn't have to go through this. And shame on ALL the adults. Grandparents sided with the other daughter they seem to defend her. For sure her sister was having an affair with her brother in law which resulted in divorce not mention becoming the estate holder. Disgusting and you wonder why the mom is so toxic. If you ask me they are all toxic adults.
Exactly the sister was sleeping with her husband and I think the parents found out and instead of saying anything they just let it happen and picked the sisters side
I don't blame the mother .. if my sister slept with my husband .. I would need someone to take my children away from me because that would drive me insane .. my husband I could mourn and be hurt by but a sister too? That couldn't be more painful.
Sounds like the sister did the plaintiff dirty after the plaintiff allowed her to come live with her while she was down on her luck and then played victim to their parents. I am a CNA working with the elderly and I have seen and heard quite a bit of family drama, and it’s just so sad. The grandchildren, wether they are still young or grown adults, were the ones affected the most by it and continue to have issues in their life, stemming from this type of thing. The saddest part for me, is even when they are in the end stages of life...the family drama continues and can even escalate. They just don’t get it. Life is short and shouldn’t be wasted on petty drama. Money, property, etc can all be replaced but once a loved one is gone...they are GONE. After that, all you have left is the could have should have would have and guilt that will eat you alive. My heart goes out to those 3 children ❤️
The parents were definitely the core issue in this situation. That “it’s just a toy” comment solidified it for me. Because it isn’t just a toy. It was a gift from the deceased father. And it isn’t about the ATV for the plaintiff.
Exactly. A.) It's not a toy it's an expensive piece of machinery with sentimental value now that they're father is gone B.) I've had a phone since 3rd grade. My grandparents never had problems with it and they're the same age range. Their mom just wanted to keep in touch with her child which any good parent does no matter who they're with. What happens if they gets lost while with them how are they supposed to get help with no phone? C.) They definitely something was going on between sis and ex-husband and I wouldn't doubt parents knew. No reason she should be executor. Should have been someone from his family. She's holding 250k hostage from his children. So sad.
These children didn’t need to be in the courtroom. It’s not right that minors are still in courtroom and it makes the mother and grandparents look horrible. But the judge sees what is going on I’m glad she called them ALL out on their ignorance! Like Doug, I feel sorry for them all!
I see this comment so much so I'll respond to it.. It's not the mom who asks if the kids want to be in the room, it's either a judge, barrister, or security before they go into the court room that asks the kids if they want to be there. This is why in a lot of other ones the kids are OUTSIDE the court room unless their testimony is necessary. The kids asked to be there. They may have said they wanted to to be there for their mother, but their mother didn't say "Yes, they're coming in with me" Even then, the mother TRIED to not be specific about a lot of things and you can tell it WAS to shield the kids. But you can still tell especially with the details that were given, and the defendants putting the rest of the pieces together. Sister and ex had an affair, defendants knew, but didn't want to piss off the sister because she's volatile and threatens them (as they admitted to her doing twice) so they took her side while telling the plaintiff "we're not taking sides". this occuring after however long the ex and sister were gaslighting the plaintiff during their affair. The way the Judge asked "are these your feelings or do you know" after kind of doing the dick thing (usually not something she does) and asking if she believed they had an affair, that head nod that was reluctant definitely showed she knew, but again was hesitant of saying it in front of the kids. But kids often know. They probably knew. Hell they may have even caught them having an affair. Lots of people assume that their kids don't know their drama, but... they're never so clever to hide it that well.
I'd be pissed off at my parents too. They probably knew the sister was with the ex husband and they decided to give the kids "toys" to the shitty sister and they had no business doing that. They should have contacted her, and had her pick up the atv's. I totally get her thinking they took the husband and sisters side. I don't blame her at all.
Except that she left her property at their house for years. That isn’t fair either. Did sh3 pay them a storage fee? Did mom just expect it to take up space in their garage forever?
Ugh! The grandmother saying that it’s just a toy is so insensitive to me . Their dad bought that so they should be more than willing to give them something to remember him by smh
you would think she would be wiser in her old age. If the ATV is all that matters in this case to them, they are DONE as a family. Their children will turn into bitter somethings, and won't say what is probably coming down the road for them. It is no ATV! More like off-road altogether.
I’m sobbing, JM is so ride or die for the kids always. Her kind hearted recognizes when these talks are seriously needed and she gives them. She goes far beyond her job and I just love her. I love her so much😭♥️♥️♥️
Wow, the mother's comment that it was just a toy at the end makes me see exactly who see is...this lady is angry because she was mistreated. That sis is the reason for all this drama...
I feel so bad for these children that they had to sit through this mess it’s an absolute disaster 💯 I find it extremely strange that her ex husband would make his sister-in-law the executor of his estate they definitely were romantically involved with each other which is the main reason why these two sisters are feuding with each other 💯 this family needs Dr.Phil,therapy,counseling & all no disrespect I’m just keeping it real 🙌🏾
Those grandparents are awful. And the sister? Release the estate. Clearly she doesn’t give a crap about her niece and nephews. That is their estate and benefits. Why is she holding it hostage from them? Awful.
This case is so sad, but I understand why the plaintiff sued her parents. It's pretty obvious that the sister had an affair with her husband. They were still together after the divorce hence why she doesn't talk to her. It becomes even more revealing that the sister is the executor of his estate, and withholds the tv (that she doesn't even use).... because if she really didn't have a thing with her ex husband why is SHE the executioner and not his siblings or a family member. Not only that- these grandparents are a joke. Because they enable this behavior instead of calling their grown adult kids out on the bs they do. WHAT MAKES THIS WORSE. Is that these kids lost their father... I can't imagine that being an easy topic to talk about. They probably thought they were being punished by their family withholding something thats theirs. The emotional distress she's endured is probably way more than what was shared. I bet she was too embarrassed to share that they DID have an affair, especially in front of the kids. It seems her family is against her and I would just cut them all off. Therapy can't undo that level of betrayal. If it was ME, I'd never speak to any of them again, wouldn't want any of that behavior around my kids.
So we all know who the golden child is huh? What kind of parents are okay with one of their daughters sleeping with the other daughter's husband causing their family to break and now is screwing her sister, nephews and niece by not giving them access to their father's estate. Not only are they okay but they decided not to "interfere" and are still in contact with the cheater. I come from a family oriented culture but even I would have gone no contact with this toxic sludge of a family years ago.
The grandparents saying it’s “one little toy” is probably a great example of the root of the issue. They don’t get to decide it’s one little toy, it’s not theres, and they created the mess and then threw their hands up and played stupid. Hopefully the mom stepping back from that toxic family helps her with whatever anger issues it caused.
Exactly it doesn't matter if it's an ATV, a PS5 or a stuffed teddy bear. A gift to the children is their property. As the judge said the only reason it's registed to dad is he paid for it and the kids aren't old enough to be on the registration themselves but all parties agreed it was a gift for the benefit and use of the children
When both the plaintiff and defendant started talking about the ATV first when Doug asked them questions and not what was most important (the family working things out for the kids) I knew nothing would happen. Heartbreaking when families fall apart 💔
This lady is so self centered. If her family disagrees whether it be her husband, her sister, or parents, they are against her and she could never be wrong
As I watch this again I realize the plaintiff is tired asf of her sister being everyone's favourite and chosen one and I think she did this to prove a point to them that this isn't OK. That she knows that they knew the sister and the plaintiffs ex-husband were being inappropriate and everyone in the world who watched this sees that inappropriateness was done between them and the reason why she wants to keep her distance from her parents
What do you mean? She already agreed to one Sunday each month. I think that's generous considering the grandparents trying to prevent the parent from contacting her children while they're with them. Grandparents definitely seem messy to me.
@@4everThoughtful That was mostly just a compromise to end a lengthy and pointless court battle the grandparents were waging despite them having no legal basis. Grandparents visitation rights aren't a thing like the judge said except in states that have made rules for it. Federally supreme court says they have no visitation rights. Also I went back and looked they took her to court 6 months after she laid the father of her children to rest. She was probably still dealing with the loss herself(even if he did cheat and they divorced. She still loved him and some point) and consoling her children and now she has to fight a legal battle against her own parents They were upset she cut them off after they undermined her authority as a parent and tired to keep her from being able to contact her child while with them. Parents are worry warts and just a check in text can be very reassuring. If it's excessive ask politely to tone it down. I also assume there's a lot more they did to piss her off they didn't get into for time and relevance. Something tells me they also had an idea about the potential affair between sis and ex-hubby. That's why they "didn't want to take sides".
@@LizWroten It’s not about the grandparents. Not every person (blood or not) is beneficial to a child’s life. Some bring their negative, gossip, undermine and overrule the desires of the parents and say negative things about the parents. I think that parents have the duty to keep negative relatives and strangers from their children’s lives.
These people don't give a crap about the kids mental health. They shouldn't be in court. They shouldn't be the focus of a custody case with the grand parents. This family is messed up.
Parents should have to take all kinds of lessons before being allowed to raise children. This mother is so defiant that she'll risk her kids not knowing their grandparents before she gives up her stubborn ways. Who really gets stuck forever in the middle? The kids!
Another case where a family member is so ticked off and hurt that they hold their own kids back from having a relationship with a grandparent. People need to learn to put aside their differences and work together in some capacity so that it doesn't mess with the kids.
The thing is the grandparents are part to blame for it too. While the mother was being a bit over protective by constantly texting her kids, it is not the grandparent's right to take the phone away. They should have called their daughter and tell her to not worry and everything is fine and she doesn't need to text. And if the texting continues - so what. Also the plaintiff has been through a lot as well, having a husband divorce her and end up with her sister is just nasty. Both the husband and sister should have known better to stay away, even if it is "what the heart wants". That is just something that should not have happened. And the plaintiff showed great restraint in not explicitly stating what happened. I do agree that she is putting her children in the middle of this and that is not right, but if people were a little more sympathetic to realize what she went through as well, they might understand where she is coming from.
I can't believe at the end of the segment the mom had the nerve to go right back to bickering after the judge had reprimanded her about what it means to go seek help for the betterment of her children. She's absolutely right. Seeing my family members only made me run from my mother's house faster than I could have ever imagined. Best decision I've ever made.
Grandparents need to mind their business. Had nerve to say it was just a toy! Not to the kids. It's their ATV!! It's their pkeasure they're being deprived of!
Watching those kids made me cry every time I saw them trying to comfort each other. Sounds like her husband was cheating on her with her sister and now the kids aren't getting what their father intended for them because the sister thinks it belongs to her.
The grandparents saying it’s just a toy in the end really showed they’re not empathetic towards their widowed daughter. That’s why the daughter said nothing’s going to change.
And some people are absolutely rubbish parents! Just because someone is a parent doesn't mean they have your best interests at heart. It's fantastic that many people have great parents but if you have an abusive parent the best thing you can do is get them out of your life.
I feel that saving money and buying a new one is a hell lot easier than going through all that messy situation... hell, sell a kidney and buy a bloddy ATV it's easier than going through that.. Or simply get the kids to go to their auntie and ask for it personally
Sister is also holding a 250k life insurance payout from the kids and won't tell mom anything. It's not about the ATV in itself it's that the parents are siding with the sister and the sister is actively harming her family by abusing her executor powers and withholding the estate
@@NyxHunter IF there's life insurance, which I doubt, it'll have to go through probate. With covid, probate can take longer than usual, and it can be years even in good times.
It broke my heart when they all started talking about being able to see the grandchildren. All of the children started holding hands except the boy on the end. His little brother wanted to hold the big brother’s hand and he kept pulling away 😢 They were trying to comfort one another during this. The kid’s should never be put in the middle of adult situations. My heart breaks for them. She never should have brought them.
I think the plaintiff needs to let go of her anger, and concentrate on her children. Anyone who would bring their children into a courtroom to disparage their deceased father is thinking more about revenge than their well being. She’s suing her parents and have cut them off from their grandchildren because she thinks they’ve been disloyal for not wanting to get involved in her mess, and her kids are all sitting in court looking miserable. This is not about an ATV
When the brother extended his band to his brother 😩🥲too sweet ..you can tell they are affected by all this ..man I hope they are able to repair their relationship somehow for the kids ..
“She kept texting them” they are her kids. He say’s “ I understand that”. Umm, no you don't understand that, sir. If you did you wouldn't have brought that up in court.
That's why I love you Judge Milian I was watching the children also during the case..... you're the best judge,,, you're not only darn smart you got a beautiful heart......
I feel so bad for those kids. I hate seeing grown adults acting so immature and selfishly that they don't even think of what their kids are going through. And bringing them to court...she only did that to make the grandparents feel bad. Those kids didn't need to be there and see how selfish ALL the adults were.
6:50 when the big sister takes the little brother's hand is such a sweet gesture. Those poor kids. That mom is weird for letting them be in on this. Just let them see their grandparents. Like this isn't painful enough for them.
Sister was out of hand. I feel she was having an affair with the husband. The parents know this too. She has NO business at all being in husband and wife business!!! PERIOD!!!!
Well, I can see why she feels that way. Her husband and sister were against her to the point that she was made executive of his estate. So I believe that when an argument did happen the sister got involve too much and pick the husband's side. My own husband felt that way sometimes when I and his friend had the same view about something. I had to understand where he was coming from and be more impartial. Her parents seem to not want to be involved which I can understand but at the same time, you would expect them to want to bring their children back together. Not saying that it is true, but I can understand why she feels like everyone is against her. Her parents are too impartial when they shouldn't have been and her sister was too involved in her relationship with her husband.
@@matt6565 Nah, you divorce your husband because he's sleeping with your sister. That was totally clear. And you divorce your parents because they were fine with it. They had no issue with sister playing with her sister's "Toy". The parents are a big problem in the relationship between the sisters. They have chosen sides, and you can see it. Why wouldn't they stand up to sister and say "Give the kids the ATV"? They were willing to sue this sister over non-existent grandparents rights.
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I don't think I would have had the children present in court. This is too intense.
Sometimes the kids have to know the truth about what's going on. Now they see that their grandparents and aunt are not for them. Especially a gift from their dad. That's selfish of the family.
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Absolutely agree!!
@@hangingwithkelz3376 That was my take here. The parents call the ATV just a toy and that's all it is. It's a toy that the Father bought the kids that they can remember their father. Yes its the kids that are paying the price.
@@hangingwithkelz3376 yeah but situations like this can make kids grow up way too fast and not get to enjoy their childhood. They don’t need to be worrying about these kinds of issues at that young age
This is one of the saddest things I’ve seen on The People’s Court in a long, long time. Those three kids are sitting there trying not to cry while the grownups in their lives behave like absolute morons. Those kids need a family, not an ATV.
yes!! i 100% agree, the last thing they need right now is an ATV for god sake. Probably just the mother that try to get it back to make some quick cash
@ Mike Steele, amen!! The kids are better at adulting than the real adults! 🤔👵🇺🇸
why would they drag those kids to court to witness this gawdawful mess. That's child abuse.
Preach Mike!!
They're mother did the right thing by showing their kids to not let people push you around and take advantage of you. I believe she did awesome in that aspect. That's what you need to teach your children. She taught them to not let people regardless to take advantage of you.
Judge Judy would’ve sent those poor kids outside the courtroom to protect them from all this. This was so sad. My heart goes out to every last one of them ♥️
Bad judgment for MM to ask about the aunt and father, and for the mother to answer plainly, in front of those kids. And their father isn't even alive to defend himself against such allegations if he were so inclined.
@@granitemoss1451 i am sure they’ve heard it all before unfortunately
@@granitemoss1451 he doesn't need to defend himself, he absolutely did it.
@@dragames I don't know if he did or didn't, and neither do you. This family is clearly seriously messed up so you'll forgive me if I don't just blindly believe one side when the other Is deceased and therefore can't give their side of the story. Either way, that's something the kids should get dragged through.
As a kid that’s been in a toxic family like this, it’s insulting to pretend that the kids aren’t mature enough to interpret what’s going on. I’m sure they’ve seen all the fighting first hand and they’ve heard everyone in the family talk bad about family members that they love. In my opinion, trying to shield those children from stuff they already know and have heard would be a distraction from the help they really need which is therapy for everyone. To finally see an honorable adult put their loved ones in a place that holds them accountable without demonizing them is something that could very well inspire hope for them. And it certainly helps that they were able to hear out loud how deserving they are of healthy relationships and love, who knows if they’ll ever hear it again.
I just have this gut feeling that her sister and husband was having an affair , her parents probably found out but didn’t want any part of the drama 🤦🏻♀️
I feel the same way. That rage the plantiff has didn't come from nowhere. The parents knew, said they didn't want to be involved, so it registered as a double slap in the face, because the parents didn't at least validate her feelings that being cheated on (and with her sister!) was wrong. The defendants wanted their cake and to eat it too, by choosing not to pick sides. They're just facing the consequences of that.
Not that I think the plantiff is behaving very well either. And if we're wrong, then she's way out of line. But if we're right, at least that would explain her behaviour. (It's also telling that the sister is lording her executor status over on the plantiff as well.)
@@pseudobean3827 Ummm. I didn't see 'rage' from the plaintiff. I saw someone who's frustrated her sister and parents; someone who can't make progress because the parents have a hand in disrupting the harmony. If my parents wouldn't allow my child to have a phone for me to contact them when away from me, I'd also limit the visits.
The parents very clearly favored the sister. And it shows that they cared more about the sister and status quo than the plaintiff.
@@pseudobean3827 They not only refused to acknowledge the harm the cheaters caused....they took the grandchildren's atv to the home wrecking sister, who promptly locked it up & now refuses to give it to the children. So they really did "take a side"--they took the home wrecker's side.
It's no wonder the children's mother is frustrated, hurt, & angry. But she needs to spare the children further anxiety & just move on. Sometimes you have to put your own feelings aside to do what's best for your children. If that includes disowning the home wrecking sister & the parents in order to have a peaceful & happy future, so be it.
An atv is just stuff. Stuff can be replaced. Causing the children stress & anxiety over replaceable stuff is just wrong.
@@JamieM470 That is definitely true. I hope the plantiff is able to make a clean break, for her kids and for her own sanity.
The kid attempting to hold his brothers hand was so sweet
Yes
It surely was! If I had tried this with either of my siblings, I would’ve gotten punched and called “ stupid!”😂😂
@@1LovedbyHim I would have been the one who punches . Not really but definitely an angry pull back . He was firm without being rude .
Gay
That was the daughter. They even said it in the video.
The children should not have been in the courtroom. This case was so difficult for them.
Yes exactly! I wish she would’ve taken them out 😥
Mother bought the kids to gain sympathy. She's a manipulator. Blamed her sister for her divorce stating her sister chose his side. If her sister had to choose his side, that means there was already friction between her and her husband. Then 6 months after Jim died, she cuts off all communication from her family.. probably because she married the "other guy" at that time and didn't want her family to know.
I'm not finished watching this case so I hope she loses this case. She just doesn't want her sister to have anything that belonged to her.
Judge Judy and Bryd would have put them out.
@@SRT_DRE the sister was having an affair with her husband.
I noticed the same thing
What was the purpose of the plaintiff even bringing her kids into court to witness this drama? They look sad and confused. She's just using the ATV and her kids as a pawn for deeper issues she has with her sister. Her children's mental health is way more important than an ATV.
@Annie497 Agree 100%!
not to the mother it seems, shes hell bent on material and possession
Totally agree 👍
She brought them for victim points with the judge.
I think they got drag in it so they had to come for the ride. Sadly rumours and gossips in the family travel so far and children are usually chess pieces between adults. They would hear something and it is a disaster if they got manipulated. It is not ideal but they are not born in ideal life nor to ideal parents. If this is what they need to go through to pass whatever mess the sister / ex husband did .. and is haunting them .. there be it.
I believe the plaintiff’s sister had an affair with her ex brother -in-law; leaving her the executor of his estate added insult to injury! The plaintiff needs to let her anger and bitterness go so that she can heal and focus on her new life and husband. There’s no way her kids should’ve been on court today. It’s not about the atv. She’s blaming her parents for the actions of her sister and dead ex! She needs to let go and give it to God!
You are absolutely right Tracy, as for the sister, no bad deed goes unpunished
Amen, can’t do much about it now “let go let god” start a much happier life with the new husband and your children!!
Kids being present....absolutely a screwed up decision by the judge and the family. Makes me sick. I don't know if I can ever watch this program again.
yup Judge Judy has it right.....she sends children out of the court before the case starts. That sister needs to go before a judge....there's NO way that an executor should be taking that long to do her job. All the best to you!
Noooo, the husband knew that she would spend and sell everything so this was the only way to make sure the kids had something when they get older , otherwise why wouldn't he just straight up leave it to the sister
There was definately an inappropriate relationship with the sister. It's obvious. Did he not have a will? Where is his family? The kids wanted the ATV which is what kicked this off, and why they were there. They should have been dismissed from the courtroom. Also, it appears that the kids had been riding the ATV up until the point their father died. which there would be no reason for the plaintiff to ask for it because they had access to it. The parents don't want to get involved, but they should have just gone and got the ATV for the kids, instead of taking a step back. The sister has the leverage since she's the executer. Also, I wouldn't allow my parents to see my kids either if they knew my sister was sleeping with my husband, and they refused to draw a line, or at the very least advocate for me. I wish the plaintiff would have just said that, but I feel like she didn't because the kids were there- which is why they should have been dismissed. But that sister was definately having a relationship with the plaintiff's ex husband, and the parents knew.
@Annie497 Listening to the grandparents state they didn't want the kids to contact mom when they were with the grandparents, and the fact they sued the daughter to try to get grandparents rights and visitation? The kids were placed in the middle of the grownups when the grandparents acted like that. The grandparents put them in the middle fighting for custody that they had no rights to.
@Annie497 did you drive him to suicide?
If they did shun you and you didn't, then why are you letting your kids around them? Just so you can say in a youtube comment section "I'll lead by example"
Dude, you just gave your kids to more bs. You didn't defend them from anything.
You don't let them come by until you vet they're safe and healthy for them to be around. Not just to posture and then have some random on the internet call out your bs.
Definitely not definately.
100% I agree with you. I said the same thing in my comment but the point was not made as well as yours!
@@lolalopez7657 I love your name . My mom calls me Lola as a Nick name and I’ve always admired the name
Wow! Her husband slept with her sister, and the parents minded their business. WHY WOULD THEY TAKE THOSE KIDS THINGS TO HER HOUSE?! Her parents are toxic… and she was right to cut everybody off. The kids didn’t need to be in the courtroom.
yup! agreed! Judge Judy has it right....kids that age are taken out of the court room before the case starts. Sister should be a bit careful....executors should NOT be taking that long to distribute the dead person's belongings. All the best to you!!
i don’t think the mom is an angel either, bringing the children into court and involving them at least somewhat in her familial issues like keeping them from grandparents (who the kids likely want to see if the mom agreed to it after their court case) is terrible. using your kids as pawns in family drama is heartbreaking. everyone in that family needs to focus on putting those kids first and keeping them out of the drama, it’s sad to see so many grown adults do this to children they say they love. i truly hope those kids are in a good place now!
@@Kayla-rd5jd yes, i like the way Judge Judy has children removed from the court before they hear a word. Young kids...and even older ones....don't need to hear moms and dads slaning another person....or getting embarrassed on National TV. Kids have it hard enough these days!!
@@kittyfan You keep saying that, but it is not true. With all the lawsuits going on it can take years to finally sort things out. We don't know what he had put in his final will or who he had listed on his life insurance. Besides, why does she have to be careful, someone going to take away her birthday.
The parents are toxic? WTF? They aren't the ones that used the kids as pawns in the courtroom. Also, you have know clue if they slept together, just like the wife. His wife doesn't exactly seem like a pleasant woman to be around so maybe he brought her along all the time as a buffer. The parents did mind their business. All they did was move the shit out their garage to make room. Plus she was the executor so it makes total sense to move everything there. You make no sense.
Awe the older son is trying so hard to be grown. My heart breaks for them
It's a girl she looks like boy but it's a she even the judge said to the mom your daughter has been holding your son's hand all the time
@@barbarabazin9570 wasn't talking about the daughter holding the son's hand. The older boy sitting on the other side of the little boy.
Not once did I think the daughter was a boy.
Was heartbreaking to witness. And having to adjust to a step dad bless him
I think these parents always favored the sister and she's just over it.
Absolutely......the "golden" child.
And the parents knew that the sister was having an affair with plaintiffs husband.
I haven't seen them in 3 years and have no intention of ever working it out. That's some dirty stuff
Exactly! When they kept saying they didn't want to "take sides" or "get involved", it always seemed in a way that benefited the other sister. Oh we're not taking sides but we gave your sister the ATV. We don't want to get involved but you shouldn't divorce your husband despite us having nothing to say about your sisters involvement in it.
There is a reason why the plaintiff was *obsessed* with sides. She talked about it constantly. Her parents were on her husband's side, her husband wasn't on her side, etc. While this is a toxic trait, it is very often born out of feeling unsupported or neglected.
The whole family is dysfunctional at this point. When asked at the end of court their thoughts, the adults were STILL going on about the stupid ATV while *again* not saying one word about the kids or what they want to happen with the relationships, despite the note JM finished on. I feel terrible for the kids; they are now also unsupported by the adults in their life, and clearly are filling that gap by supporting each other. Hopefully their dynamic and love doesn't get tainted by what they're seeing and hearing.
Ya could've left the kids home for this one.... smh
Exactly. They have nothing to add.
Nbs Lmfaoo
Exactly😩 seems like these poor babies are always in court. I think the judge should have excused them
@@sharda0416 Judge Judy would've as soon as she walked out.
Could have and should have.
A nasty divorce, and manipulative and vindictive aunt in the middle, wars between Mom and absolutely every other important adult in the family. The kids are soooo sick of this crap and so completely trapped by it.
and it's disgusting that so many people are blaming the mom for being the victim of it all alongside the kids. She didn't ask her parents to gaslight her and 'not pick sides' by picking sides. She didn't ask for the husband and sister to pull these massive cunty moves; cheating on her, screwing her out of the estate and insurance, etc. Everyone IS against her, it's not her just feeling it. The grandparents are against her simply because they CAN'T be against the sister and that's what this whole thing boils down to. Everyone doing everything for the sister.
but what about that ATV?
The “sister” being the executor of the estate was sheer evil . The sister is pure and utter evil for getting in the middle . My brother did the same thing, God has a special place in hell for a sibling who steals from another one ..
Right and she was sleeping with her husband so there goes the reason for that…
He put her in the spot, she didn't take it. Besides, did you see the way she acted in court, I think he made a wise move not to trust her with the estate.
@@chrisshaffer2672 WOW, you just don't get it ..... You must have a streak of evil in you... It was clear that the life insurance policy of 250,000 was to be FOR THE KIDS .... The ATV was FOR THE KIDS ..... THERE IS ZERO REASON for the sister to sit on the estate while the money from the policy and the ATV depreciates in value due to inflation .. If you can't see that you are really something .. The moms attitude is NOT relevant ... This was an estate that BELONGS to his children ...
@@doozowings4672 You obviously know nothing about the legal system. Please don't comment on my posts again. I don't have the time. Again he appointed her, she didn't appoint herself. He obviously did not trust her with the task. Why? Well just watch and listen to her. She brought a frivolous lawsuit against her parents over nothing.
She is the evil one for having her kids in the courtroom while she's bad-mouthing their grandparents
The sister should have distributed the estate already; it's been 4 years. The estate should be distributed to the kids but the sister doesn't want to do it because of the mom. Likely, in the sister's eyes, the wife was preventing her from being with the husband and despises the wife because of it.
I know the mom needs help with anger and hurt BUT can you imagine her sister withholding from her kids after ( most likely) screwing her husband behind her back after allowing her to move in to help and having your parents just not doing anything to keep the peace. " I don't know any facts but he'll if that ain't hurtful
@Melanie D seriously, everything about the case tells you that the sister was sleeping with ex and that's what causes the marriage to break up. The parents new, but chose the daughter they favour the most.
And she still had the grace to not openly say it aloud- the judge did, she said were they having an affair
Saying it and proving it are two different things.
Sister and husband was having a affair and I feel like the parents were mad she divorced him because he had money . So they was mad when she did . I also think the parents aren’t giving support to the daughter like she needs . They favor other daughter
Yup all about the money
Sister is trying to keep everything. and parents are enabling it. or at the very least not helping.
They're on national TV fighting over an ATV that is worthless. What a waste.
I felt the judge handled this carefully and wisely. Claims are dismissed. This is something that small claims can't get involved in. My father taught me years ago, "sometimes you have to lose in order to win" What are you winning? Peace of mind and peace between each other. I've applied this to many areas of my life. It just goes a long way. Best to this family.
Well said Jackson!
And your dad.... a wise man !
Amen!
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The judge should've made the kids go outside
It's abuse to have the children in the court room as all this foolishness is going one!!!
Shows how manipulative this plaintiff is.
TIOTALLY AGREE! No reason for them to be in court. I almost feel that when things started to get really bad, the Judge should have had the children wait outside- but I think she didn’t because she wanted the kids to see the Judge talking to their grandparents and mother and setting them straight...
Calling Judge Judy!
This is where Judge Judy would've been a better judge as she would've sent the kids out of the court room because they don't need to be there.
It’s a studio. It’s fine if they’re there. That’s why we like this judge, she isn’t a bully for being a bully sake.
Agreed 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
With a mom like that they already know what is going on.
Judge Judy is trash yells yo hear her own voice
@@thebalderthor4884 who cares if its a studio....the fact that the mom brought the kids was wrong. Sometimes i don't like how judge Judy acts but i do agree with dreamingfool2 that judge Judy would have sent the kids out cause kids don't need to be exposed to adult issues like that. I know cause growing up watching my parents crap affected me alot. Let kids just be kids and not have to worry about adult things.
Wow, the anger in her eyes. Those poor kids.
and then her flippant ass attitude at the end. She's an awful mom/person
I disagree. I think the sister was screwing her husband and her parents took the sister's side. The sister has no right keeping those kids inheritance from them, and the grandparents had no right giving the stuff to her sister.
@@mrmc9278 As much as I might agree they had no choice. If she is the executor of the estate and she demands the brothers property they have to give it to her. That being said she's expected to distribute the property not keep it. However unless theres a time limit clause she can take literally forever to do it. She needs to sue the sister. Still dont care for her attitude.
@@picallo1 how happy would you be to have your whole entirely family against you, lying to you, and keep saying "We're not choosing sides, but we're choosing sides against you" horse shit? The plaintiff was absolutely not making that up. The defendants only said they weren't taking sides because being against the ex would be the same as being against the sister. So by that logic, they were taking the sister's side.
@@dragames The irony in your screen name and being absolutely correct. Lol
I think the parents (grandparents) who claims to not to want to get involved are actually causing a great deal of conflict . Why did they give the ATV to the other sister???
They had to! It was titled in the name if the deceased, and sis was executor.
Yeah at the same time they knew it was a Christmas gift that belong to the kids. The only reason it was in the fathers name is because it can’t be in the children’s name because they were minors when it was purchased. The grandparents were just storing it. If the sister called for it and asked for it I would have told her the children already picked it up with their mother. Called the children’s immediately after I got off the phone with her and said come get this atv, before your sister finds out it’s still here.
Wheww, as a psychotherapist this case is interesting as hell!
I think the sister was sleeping with the husband and it caused the divorce and the parents knew and did nothing about it
I'm a relationship counsellor in the UK and nothing shocks me anymore. We have an organisation called Relate that used to be for marriage counselling, its more up to date now. But some of the things I've seen and heard 🤦♀️ people will do anything to justify cheating, lying, etc.
The grandma said "it was just a toy" and yet couldn't release it to the kids but complicated the issue by assisting to get it locked up...
They obviously know what they are doing...
They slippped up tho and said ‘asset’ it’s about money as usual. Feel for those kids
@@blueglassesgirluk9445 no, the sister claimed it was an asset of the estate. The atv ewas legally titled in the dead guy's name, so the grandparents HAD to give it to the executor.
The little boy in the yellow shirt looks completely cut up over this. How heartbreaking.
Seems, is an understatement 😢
I feel so sorry for those kids. They look soo sad 😔
I really feel for the children, just look how they hold on to themselves. Hope the two parents solve their difference
Well the dad has passed that’s the whole problem
It's not the Parents - it's the Mom Vs the Grandparents!
@Keith Sergent being bitter that her sister was having an affair with her husband?!? Then wrongfully holding things in the estate that belongs to the children and yeah to the ex-wife. She deserves all of it after being put through what she has. Cheating is one thing but keeping in the family is just disgusting!! 🤢🤮 sounds like karma came knocking at the ex-husband's door and it will eventually catch up to good old sis too! You don't get to always get away with being a trash box person and get away with it. Mom and Dad sound like their inches away from defending it. Child or not you don't support your child in being a trash box! You can love your children and still not agree with the trashy things they do, and if they don't want anything to do with you bc you won't placate to their trash behavior well then you got to love them from a distance.
@Keith Sergent no I don't find it odd. I find it odd that ppl have become so desensitized in this world that we blame the victim and we judge how someone else handles trauma. She should have left her kids at home and she is suing the wrong ppl but she definitely should fight for that estate and everything in it, bc it belongs to her kids, and they're minors, and can't fight it for themselves. It's our jobs as parents to fight for our children's rights when they cannot.
@Keith Sergent I wouldn't want to leave my children with adults who condone the behavior of the sister and husband. I would question their morals and their judgment as adults. I don't just trust anyone with my kids. Just bc your title is Grandma or Grandpa doesn't make you a trustworthy person. I agree there is a lot to this story we only get about 15 mins.
The parents are weak and their decision to stay neutral speaks to their complicity in this situation. They should be ashamed of themselves for choosing to do nothing. It is obvious that the sister kept the money and provided the parents with financial support from the insurance payout. The estate should have been settled years ago. With Covid, the sister is going to stretch out settling the estate even longer.
👏👏👏👏 you are another one that makes sense on this case.
They also knew that their golden child was sleeping with their daughters husband.. that’s why they didn’t want anything to do with it but they will gladly take the financial support that comes from it and then they try and sue the mother so they can get legal time to spend with their grandchildren that they’re really not trying to help.. to be honest everybody in this case is selfish. (Not the kids obviously)
That’s not true. They stayed neutral bc the children love both their parents, and that way they’re not saying or doing anything to put him down in front of them.
Thats exactly what it was
@@stacybstacybThat what it is
I do feel bad for the kids they shouldn't have to go through this. And shame on ALL the adults. Grandparents sided with the other daughter they seem to defend her. For sure her sister was having an affair with her brother in law which resulted in divorce not mention becoming the estate holder. Disgusting and you wonder why the mom is so toxic. If you ask me they are all toxic adults.
Exactly the sister was sleeping with her husband and I think the parents found out and instead of saying anything they just let it happen and picked the sisters side
I don't blame the mother .. if my sister slept with my husband .. I would need someone to take my children away from me because that would drive me insane .. my husband I could mourn and be hurt by but a sister too? That couldn't be more painful.
I suspect they did try to get the ATV back... or the sister would have had no reason to tell them she'd call the cops if they came to get it.
The sister needs to be sued for the estate not being handled correctly
Sounds like the sister did the plaintiff dirty after the plaintiff allowed her to come live with her while she was down on her luck and then played victim to their parents. I am a CNA working with the elderly and I have seen and heard quite a bit of family drama, and it’s just so sad. The grandchildren, wether they are still young or grown adults, were the ones affected the most by it and continue to have issues in their life, stemming from this type of thing. The saddest part for me, is even when they are in the end stages of life...the family drama continues and can even escalate. They just don’t get it. Life is short and shouldn’t be wasted on petty drama. Money, property, etc can all be replaced but once a loved one is gone...they are GONE. After that, all you have left is the could have should have would have and guilt that will eat you alive. My heart goes out to those 3 children ❤️
When Judge Milan, Judge Lauren Lake, and Judge Mathis get cool calm, and collected i get cold chills down my spine. 😭😨😵
The parents were definitely the core issue in this situation. That “it’s just a toy” comment solidified it for me. Because it isn’t just a toy. It was a gift from the deceased father. And it isn’t about the ATV for the plaintiff.
Exactly.
A.) It's not a toy it's an expensive piece of machinery with sentimental value now that they're father is gone
B.) I've had a phone since 3rd grade. My grandparents never had problems with it and they're the same age range. Their mom just wanted to keep in touch with her child which any good parent does no matter who they're with. What happens if they gets lost while with them how are they supposed to get help with no phone?
C.) They definitely something was going on between sis and ex-husband and I wouldn't doubt parents knew. No reason she should be executor. Should have been someone from his family. She's holding 250k hostage from his children. So sad.
Why would you bring these children in court ? Why did the judge allow it ?
The parents and sister seem like terrible humans. If I were the plaintiff, I’d keep my kids away too.
These children didn’t need to be in the courtroom. It’s not right that minors are still in courtroom and it makes the mother and grandparents look horrible. But the judge sees what is going on I’m glad she called them ALL out on their ignorance! Like Doug, I feel sorry for them all!
I am surprised the judge didn't ask the kids to leave the courtroom. They should not have been there. What a mess.
Why would she bring the kids to court to listen to these sad family issues
Those children will all leave home as soon as they are 18 and never speak to her again.
I see this comment so much so I'll respond to it..
It's not the mom who asks if the kids want to be in the room, it's either a judge, barrister, or security before they go into the court room that asks the kids if they want to be there. This is why in a lot of other ones the kids are OUTSIDE the court room unless their testimony is necessary.
The kids asked to be there. They may have said they wanted to to be there for their mother, but their mother didn't say "Yes, they're coming in with me"
Even then, the mother TRIED to not be specific about a lot of things and you can tell it WAS to shield the kids. But you can still tell especially with the details that were given, and the defendants putting the rest of the pieces together.
Sister and ex had an affair, defendants knew, but didn't want to piss off the sister because she's volatile and threatens them (as they admitted to her doing twice) so they took her side while telling the plaintiff "we're not taking sides". this occuring after however long the ex and sister were gaslighting the plaintiff during their affair.
The way the Judge asked "are these your feelings or do you know" after kind of doing the dick thing (usually not something she does) and asking if she believed they had an affair, that head nod that was reluctant definitely showed she knew, but again was hesitant of saying it in front of the kids.
But kids often know. They probably knew. Hell they may have even caught them having an affair. Lots of people assume that their kids don't know their drama, but... they're never so clever to hide it that well.
@@dragames oh nice 👍🏻
She is all about hurting people.
@@barbarak2836 I hope so!
WHY ARE THE CHILDREN THERE???!!! My Goodness,,they should be outside in the lobby or in the green room ...anywhere but there!😒
Why are the kids there ? They shouldn't be involved.
Why did the mom have to drag her kids to court to hear this case ? Didn’t she know that this would be traumatizing for them ?
Yikes ! Thanks mom !!
Because not a single adult involved cares enough about the kids to put them first... mom included.
Can we just talk about the daughter's smile when jm asked to see her? That was so genuine, it makes me want to cry.
I'd be pissed off at my parents too. They probably knew the sister was with the ex husband and they decided to give the kids "toys" to the shitty sister and they had no business doing that. They should have contacted her, and had her pick up the atv's. I totally get her thinking they took the husband and sisters side. I don't blame her at all.
I agree with you, then they brought her to court, her sister is not giving the insurance money to the kids, which is theirs, not hers.
Me too and I would have sue them with no remorse.
Except that she left her property at their house for years. That isn’t fair either. Did sh3 pay them a storage fee? Did mom just expect it to take up space in their garage forever?
Ugh! The grandmother saying that it’s just a toy is so insensitive to me . Their dad bought that so they should be more than willing to give them something to remember him by smh
It's a stupid old toy.
you would think she would be wiser in her old age. If the ATV is all that matters in this case to them, they are DONE as a family. Their children will turn into bitter somethings, and won't say what is probably coming down the road for them. It is no ATV! More like off-road altogether.
Really kids in the court ?! let’s discuss a potential affair between their dad/aunt good job real good job !
Poor kids look so sad :(
I’m sobbing, JM is so ride or die for the kids always. Her kind hearted recognizes when these talks are seriously needed and she gives them. She goes far beyond her job and I just love her. I love her so much😭♥️♥️♥️
Whew, this one is not actually about an ATV at ALL. Talk about family issues.
the best things those kids could do? DESTROY THE ATV.
Wow, the mother's comment that it was just a toy at the end makes me see exactly who see is...this lady is angry because she was mistreated. That sis is the reason for all this drama...
I feel so bad for these children that they had to sit through this mess it’s an absolute disaster 💯 I find it extremely strange that her ex husband would make his sister-in-law the executor of his estate they definitely were romantically involved with each other which is the main reason why these two sisters are feuding with each other 💯 this family needs Dr.Phil,therapy,counseling & all no disrespect I’m just keeping it real 🙌🏾
It definitely seems like the plaintiff danced around that issue...I was waiting for the judge to spit it out and ask...
@@mrshappilymarried1 that’s very unusual something is definitely going on between them
They didn’t wanna discuss it in front of the children but they pretty much said it was a detail as to why the sister was the executor of the estate..
Those grandparents are awful. And the sister? Release the estate. Clearly she doesn’t give a crap about her niece and nephews. That is their estate and benefits. Why is she holding it hostage from them? Awful.
This case is so sad, but I understand why the plaintiff sued her parents. It's pretty obvious that the sister had an affair with her husband. They were still together after the divorce hence why she doesn't talk to her. It becomes even more revealing that the sister is the executor of his estate, and withholds the tv (that she doesn't even use).... because if she really didn't have a thing with her ex husband why is SHE the executioner and not his siblings or a family member. Not only that- these grandparents are a joke. Because they enable this behavior instead of calling their grown adult kids out on the bs they do. WHAT MAKES THIS WORSE. Is that these kids lost their father... I can't imagine that being an easy topic to talk about. They probably thought they were being punished by their family withholding something thats theirs. The emotional distress she's endured is probably way more than what was shared. I bet she was too embarrassed to share that they DID have an affair, especially in front of the kids. It seems her family is against her and I would just cut them all off. Therapy can't undo that level of betrayal. If it was ME, I'd never speak to any of them again, wouldn't want any of that behavior around my kids.
Absolutely ZERO reason for all those kids to be there. RIDICULOUS.
The poor kids. When I saw them holding hands, I almost cried.
Grow up lady! The bitterness you hold on to will eat you alive!! Poor kids!
The plaintiff didn't get anything JM said. Its too bad her kids will suffer.
Her and her husband should just buy a new one. Why bring the kids to experience this foolishness?
It's so old it probably doesn't even run.
The interviewer at the end of the cases is a real instigator.
The grandparents know the their other daughter was having an affair with the plaintiff's ex husband. They are acting clueless
So we all know who the golden child is huh? What kind of parents are okay with one of their daughters sleeping with the other daughter's husband causing their family to break and now is screwing her sister, nephews and niece by not giving them access to their father's estate. Not only are they okay but they decided not to "interfere" and are still in contact with the cheater. I come from a family oriented culture but even I would have gone no contact with this toxic sludge of a family years ago.
The grandparents saying it’s “one little toy” is probably a great example of the root of the issue. They don’t get to decide it’s one little toy, it’s not theres, and they created the mess and then threw their hands up and played stupid. Hopefully the mom stepping back from that toxic family helps her with whatever anger issues it caused.
Exactly it doesn't matter if it's an ATV, a PS5 or a stuffed teddy bear. A gift to the children is their property. As the judge said the only reason it's registed to dad is he paid for it and the kids aren't old enough to be on the registration themselves but all parties agreed it was a gift for the benefit and use of the children
When both the plaintiff and defendant started talking about the ATV first when Doug asked them questions and not what was most important (the family working things out for the kids) I knew nothing would happen. Heartbreaking when families fall apart 💔
This lady is so self centered. If her family disagrees whether it be her husband, her sister, or parents, they are against her and she could never be wrong
Oh shit! Just got to the part about the affair.
Unless the kids are actually involved with the case, the kids shouldn’t be there. Smh praying for that family 🙏🏾
As I watch this again I realize the plaintiff is tired asf of her sister being everyone's favourite and chosen one and I think she did this to prove a point to them that this isn't OK. That she knows that they knew the sister and the plaintiffs ex-husband were being inappropriate and everyone in the world who watched this sees that inappropriateness was done between them and the reason why she wants to keep her distance from her parents
Your children are not "prove a point" tools. The point to the point is long dead two husbands ago. The kids are not.
Wow, The look in the plaintiffs eyes at the end says it all, she will never let her parents see those children. Sad.
What do you mean? She already agreed to one Sunday each month. I think that's generous considering the grandparents trying to prevent the parent from contacting her children while they're with them. Grandparents definitely seem messy to me.
@@4everThoughtful That was mostly just a compromise to end a lengthy and pointless court battle the grandparents were waging despite them having no legal basis. Grandparents visitation rights aren't a thing like the judge said except in states that have made rules for it. Federally supreme court says they have no visitation rights.
Also I went back and looked they took her to court 6 months after she laid the father of her children to rest. She was probably still dealing with the loss herself(even if he did cheat and they divorced. She still loved him and some point) and consoling her children and now she has to fight a legal battle against her own parents
They were upset she cut them off after they undermined her authority as a parent and tired to keep her from being able to contact her child while with them. Parents are worry warts and just a check in text can be very reassuring. If it's excessive ask politely to tone it down. I also assume there's a lot more they did to piss her off they didn't get into for time and relevance.
Something tells me they also had an idea about the potential affair between sis and ex-hubby. That's why they "didn't want to take sides".
Grandparents need visitation rights like moms and dads.
@@LizWroten It’s not about the grandparents. Not every person (blood or not) is beneficial to a child’s life. Some bring their negative, gossip, undermine and overrule the desires of the parents and say negative things about the parents. I think that parents have the duty to keep negative relatives and strangers from their children’s lives.
@@LizWroten nah. Not in this case.
That lady should of left her kids at home. She also seems entitled.
Both daughters should be totally ashamed of themselves!!!
Why were the kids in the courtroom for the duration of the case? They should have been removed before the testimony started.
The kids are already going through it, why subdue them to the stress of being in the courtroom?
These people don't give a crap about the kids mental health. They shouldn't be in court. They shouldn't be the focus of a custody case with the grand parents. This family is messed up.
The picture at 14:55 is not particularly uplifting. My heart breaks for those youngsters.
Parents should have to take all kinds of lessons before being allowed to raise children. This mother is so defiant that she'll risk her kids not knowing their grandparents before she gives up her stubborn ways. Who really gets stuck forever in the middle? The kids!
Another case where a family member is so ticked off and hurt that they hold their own kids back from having a relationship with a grandparent. People need to learn to put aside their differences and work together in some capacity so that it doesn't mess with the kids.
Sad narcissistic world we live in sadly most people have the me me me attitude
The thing is the grandparents are part to blame for it too. While the mother was being a bit over protective by constantly texting her kids, it is not the grandparent's right to take the phone away. They should have called their daughter and tell her to not worry and everything is fine and she doesn't need to text. And if the texting continues - so what.
Also the plaintiff has been through a lot as well, having a husband divorce her and end up with her sister is just nasty. Both the husband and sister should have known better to stay away, even if it is "what the heart wants". That is just something that should not have happened. And the plaintiff showed great restraint in not explicitly stating what happened.
I do agree that she is putting her children in the middle of this and that is not right, but if people were a little more sympathetic to realize what she went through as well, they might understand where she is coming from.
@@davidswick8571 agreed. You’re right- the grandparents are part of this whole distinction, too
@@davidswick8571 agreed. The grandparents are part of the disfunction, too
No, the grandparents did that.
I can't believe at the end of the segment the mom had the nerve to go right back to bickering after the judge had reprimanded her about what it means to go seek help for the betterment of her children. She's absolutely right. Seeing my family members only made me run from my mother's house faster than I could have ever imagined. Best decision I've ever made.
Grandparents need to mind their business. Had nerve to say it was just a toy! Not to the kids. It's their ATV!! It's their pkeasure they're being deprived of!
Best advice judge. Good judgment was shown here.
The ATV is in the dead man's name
It's part of the estate
Should've been dealt with in the divorce.
@@tricetaylor7918 ... you dumb? IT was. HE died after the divorce. Fuckin duh.
@@dragames you're as simple as she is.
Those children should not have to hear this poisonous gossip about their dad. That mother is so off base. They will resent her more as time goes by.
Watching those kids made me cry every time I saw them trying to comfort each other. Sounds like her husband was cheating on her with her sister and now the kids aren't getting what their father intended for them because the sister thinks it belongs to her.
The grandparents saying it’s just a toy in the end really showed they’re not empathetic towards their widowed daughter. That’s why the daughter said nothing’s going to change.
Judge is absolutely right in ATV case. Also a strikingly beautiful woman.
Hold your parents close, it is really hard when they pass away..I miss my father daily.
Amen
And some people are absolutely rubbish parents! Just because someone is a parent doesn't mean they have your best interests at heart. It's fantastic that many people have great parents but if you have an abusive parent the best thing you can do is get them out of your life.
Why in the world did she bring those kids in the courtroom? They seem pretty traumatized to me.
I feel that saving money and buying a new one is a hell lot easier than going through all that messy situation... hell, sell a kidney and buy a bloddy ATV it's easier than going through that..
Or simply get the kids to go to their auntie and ask for it personally
The mature thing to do is to keep the kids the heck out of all this mess.
Agree! It's just stuff. Stuff can be replaced. Stop putting the children through this.
Sister is also holding a 250k life insurance payout from the kids and won't tell mom anything.
It's not about the ATV in itself it's that the parents are siding with the sister and the sister is actively harming her family by abusing her executor powers and withholding the estate
They still have to go to court for the life insurance that the AUNT should not have. It is for the CHILDREN, not for the skank
@@NyxHunter IF there's life insurance, which I doubt, it'll have to go through probate. With covid, probate can take longer than usual, and it can be years even in good times.
It broke my heart when they all started talking about being able to see the grandchildren. All of the children started holding hands except the boy on the end. His little brother wanted to hold the big brother’s hand and he kept pulling away 😢 They were trying to comfort one another during this. The kid’s should never be put in the middle of adult situations. My heart breaks for them. She never should have brought them.
Plaintiff is sooooooooo evasive with her answers. Annoying to listen to
I think she was trying not to mention she thinks her sister was sleeping with her ex husband in front of the kids and the parents knew about it
I think the plaintiff needs to let go of her anger, and concentrate on her children. Anyone who would bring their children into a courtroom to disparage their deceased father is thinking more about revenge than their well being. She’s suing her parents and have cut them off from their grandchildren because she thinks they’ve been disloyal for not wanting to get involved in her mess, and her kids are all sitting in court looking miserable. This is not about an ATV
When the brother extended his band to his brother 😩🥲too sweet ..you can tell they are affected by all this ..man I hope they are able to repair their relationship somehow for the kids ..
“She kept texting them” they are her kids. He say’s “ I understand that”. Umm, no you don't understand that, sir. If you did you wouldn't have brought that up in court.
Everyone else fault except her.
That's why I love you Judge Milian I was watching the children also during the case..... you're the best judge,,, you're not only darn smart you got a beautiful heart......
I feel so bad for those kids. I hate seeing grown adults acting so immature and selfishly that they don't even think of what their kids are going through. And bringing them to court...she only did that to make the grandparents feel bad. Those kids didn't need to be there and see how selfish ALL the adults were.
6:50 when the big sister takes the little brother's hand is such a sweet gesture. Those poor kids. That mom is weird for letting them be in on this. Just let them see their grandparents. Like this isn't painful enough for them.
Sister was out of hand. I feel she was having an affair with the husband. The parents know this too. She has NO business at all being in husband and wife business!!! PERIOD!!!!
Those kids look traumatized. I feel so sorry for them. Why didn’t any adult say why have them here? All this over an atv?
Plantiff seems like a real witch everyone is always against her so she says
Exactly..she's the common denominator
She wants so badly to be a victim.
Well, I can see why she feels that way. Her husband and sister were against her to the point that she was made executive of his estate. So I believe that when an argument did happen the sister got involve too much and pick the husband's side. My own husband felt that way sometimes when I and his friend had the same view about something. I had to understand where he was coming from and be more impartial. Her parents seem to not want to be involved which I can understand but at the same time, you would expect them to want to bring their children back together. Not saying that it is true, but I can understand why she feels like everyone is against her. Her parents are too impartial when they shouldn't have been and her sister was too involved in her relationship with her husband.
@@cjordanvab You STILL don't divorce your husband over that tho. That's petty.
@@matt6565 Nah, you divorce your husband because he's sleeping with your sister. That was totally clear. And you divorce your parents because they were fine with it. They had no issue with sister playing with her sister's "Toy". The parents are a big problem in the relationship between the sisters. They have chosen sides, and you can see it. Why wouldn't they stand up to sister and say "Give the kids the ATV"? They were willing to sue this sister over non-existent grandparents rights.