Kramer They did,it was recorded in Arizona past 11pm.Leonard Nimoy was at the Mezzaluna that night issued a statement he saw Nicole in the restaurant past 11pm.Juditha told the Coroners office she last spoke to Nicole past 11pm,that's in the Coroners report.The bodie's were found past midnight.Nicole was on her back,crime scene photos taken that morning, shows Nicole face down and a puddle of blood above her head.
Actually very EASY to believe given that both he and nicole lived within walking distance of the restaurant AND that he may of had plans to meet with his friend later that night as well.
the times can be plausible. well, karen testified that ron's place is about 2 mins from the restaurant. stewart approximates the walk from mezzaluna to 875 bundy to be about 5 mins. therefore one can assume ron got to his house about 9:53. he then took a shower and changed his clothes, grabbed his keys, pager and the envelope containing the glasses and maybe two take out menus. let's say all of that took him 15 mins. the time then would've been about 10:08. let's give him 2 more mins to go downstairs and into his car. now the time is 10:10. a 5 min walk now becomes about 2 minute or less. but let's say he got to dorothy st at 10:12, he drives slowly for a bit and find a spot to park, after he cuts the ignition the time is now 10:13.. he walks around the corner of dorothy to 875 bundy and arrives at the buzzer at 10:14, he rings the buzzer and sees- or is greeted by- and there you have it. but remember, cochran stated that clark's 10:15 is important for her theory as to when the murders happened. other witnesses claimed to have heard arguments from the general area at a later time. the infamous "hey, hey, hey!" gate "clinging shut".
And I also thought maybe he hurried a little bit if he had a thing for Nicole and was excited to get to talk to her for a few minutes. I don’t recall testimony that there was any evidence that he had showered. Just that he threw his work clothes over the door and changed his clothes.
Maybe. It depends who the intended victim was. If Ron were the intended victim, then Nicole might be alive today. He might have been killed at his apt later that night instead of at Nicole's condo. People dont consider that oj might not be the killer and that Nicole might not have been the intended target. Those same people also dont consider blood was planted and oj was framed.
Hard to say. If you take into consideration that oj really didnt do it and was framed for the murders we really have no idea that nicole was the intended target. It might have been Ron. It is possible Ron was followed to Nicole's condo and then his killers followed him to the gate and then once the gate was open Ron and Nicole were killed. The glasses only ensured both would be killed together. It doesnt mean Ron would still be alive. People who believe that believe oj was the killer and nicole was the intended target.
The best was when Clark & Darden both exploded when Shapiro said "yes" to a different witness who asked if she was wrong about the date of the Simpson's divorce. Darden blurts out "Mr. Shapiro should put himself on the witness stand if he's gonna answer the questions." The entire courtroom laughed. Shapiro says "It's a public record. If we're arguing about the date of the divorce, we're gonna be here all day." The prosecution looked very foolish.
An interesting "tidbit" I got from listening to defense Detective Pat McKenna on a podcast was that OJ thought maybe Alan Park was stoned. This was because of the route he took to the airport which was not the fastest route and didn't seem logical because they were running late.
Thts y i look at my receipt for everthing 10 ppl = 6 adults -4 kids . We charge 2 kids as 1 adult . Equals. 7 adults an 1 kidd .... They got over chrgd
@@philipwilliams1754 Thanks. I never took any interest in 1995 in the trial, anyway as a Brit we had our own sensational trials. BUT now I am older, I can look at it more leisurely. We don't have TV trials here in Britain like the US does. No trial can be perfect.
@@IanP1963 If TV wasn't allowed,we would not have seen the glove demonstration,showing the gloves were clearly too small.Even after the world saw it,today they say the glove fit or they shrunk ,he stopped taking his arthritis medication.
Lol mr Shapiro clearly has never worked at a restaurant or with regular people. I forget to clock in or out more times than id like to say, than someone has to fix my time. Also if you get off work and you are cool with employees, you dont just leave, you chat, chill for a min. If people you know are sitting and eating you may just sit the f down lol. Jesus, i garentee rin wasnt eating, if he was, it was a snack haha. What does ron eating have to do with anything 🤔 anyway
What does it matter if Nicole and Ron were together it was still murdered and that's that murders murders murder doesn't matter if they were together and they were together and I don't know why OJ's team wants to establish that they were together because to me that would make OJ look more guilty because then that would justify the prosecution claim that he was obsessive abusive and that would be another nail on the coffin so to speak for him because that would give motive so I don't know why they're pressing on this them being a relationship because to me that would make him look bad and why would they want him to look bad and like I said it doesn't matter if they were together were together if they were friends if they were lovers whatever they were murdered that's bad doesn't give him the right to murder anybody for any reason nobody needs nobody just take nobody's life except God is the only person that decides when a person dies nobody else
The defense is trying to prove they werent romantically involved. The posed the questions to prove just that indicating that the motive for oj being a jealous ex was very weak. The more the jury saw them as two acquaintences and not lovers the more silly it looks that oj would be the killer. If they werent involved then oj has no motive. Add that with the fact oj already had a girlfriend. He had no reason to want nicole or be jealous she was with other men. He caught her performing oral sex on a man named Keith Zomlowich (spelling might be wrong) while their children were upstairs. He didnt kill that guy or Nicole. So him killing her out of jealousy doesnt make sense. The prosecution wanted to prove they were dating to establish motive for oj killing her. You have it backwards.
The relevancy is to establish that Ron made it to his apt and left to nicole's condo. If Ron had been in his waiter outfit when he was killed someone could argue Ron never made it to his apt, he was killed somewhere else, and his body was left at Nicole's after she was killed there. The fact his waiter uniform was found at his apartment and he was wearing different clothes at the crime scene indicates he made it home, drove to Nicole's, and he was killed there with Nicole. The strange thing is they never found Ron's apartment key, and his apt was locked. It wasnt at the crime scene, on Ron's person, or in Andrea Scott's car. Some theorize that Ron had something at his apt and the killer (not oj) killed ron, took his keys, found what they wanted, stole it, and then locked his apt and left.
That computer 💻 next to Judge Ito must weigh like 100 pounds 😂.
How did she know they belonged to Ron.She only knew him for a few months.
How they get to the restaurant by 6:45 when they didn't leave the recital until 7:15 7:20
Travis Avery Right....
Because its not true that they left the recital until 7:15.
@@rawn4203 --The coroner testified ,Ron and Nicole had full stomachs of undigested food.
@@moniquewatkins9952 -Keep in mind Ron has a timecard also.
@@philipwilliams1754 What does that prove? Certainly not when they left the restaurant.
Too bad they didn’t look into everything else as hard as they did with this crap. Maybe they would have known how bad Furman was going to screw them
Exactly!
Question for you couldn't they call American Express they would have the time correct time
Kramer They did,it was recorded in Arizona past 11pm.Leonard Nimoy was at the Mezzaluna that night issued a statement he saw Nicole in the restaurant past 11pm.Juditha told the Coroners office she last spoke to Nicole past 11pm,that's in the Coroners report.The bodie's were found past midnight.Nicole was on her back,crime scene photos taken that morning, shows Nicole face down and a puddle of blood above her head.
thanks
These trials are so tedious
Not all trials are tedious but this one takes the prize for splitting hairs and minutae . All that effort and taxpayer money for what? 🔪❤️
Bet they got their time clock fixed after this lol
Flimsy ass timeline...Ron left work at 9:50 walked home changed clothes made it to Nicole's house by 10:15? That's 20 minutes...VERY HARD TO BELIEVE
Actually very EASY to believe given that both he and nicole lived within walking distance of the restaurant AND that he may of had plans to meet with his friend later that night as well.
Anyone have any idea why she cried just by looking at Ron's clothes?
the times can be plausible. well, karen testified that ron's place is about 2 mins from the restaurant. stewart approximates the walk from mezzaluna to 875 bundy to be about 5 mins. therefore one can assume ron got to his house about 9:53. he then took a shower and changed his clothes, grabbed his keys, pager and the envelope containing the glasses and maybe two take out menus. let's say all of that took him 15 mins. the time then would've been about 10:08. let's give him 2 more mins to go downstairs and into his car. now the time is 10:10. a 5 min walk now becomes about 2 minute or less. but let's say he got to dorothy st at 10:12, he drives slowly for a bit and find a spot to park, after he cuts the ignition the time is now 10:13.. he walks around the corner of dorothy to 875 bundy and arrives at the buzzer at 10:14, he rings the buzzer and sees- or is greeted by- and there you have it.
but remember, cochran stated that clark's 10:15 is important for her theory as to when the murders happened. other witnesses claimed to have heard arguments from the general area at a later time. the infamous "hey, hey, hey!" gate "clinging shut".
wouldnt u get sad looking at the clothes of a loved one? knowing that was the last time you saw them wearing those clothes. ijs its sad to most ppl
And I also thought maybe he hurried a little bit if he had a thing for Nicole and was excited to get to talk to her for a few minutes. I don’t recall testimony that there was any evidence that he had showered. Just that he threw his work clothes over the door and changed his clothes.
I wonder how this would have went down if she hadn't of dropped her glasses
Oj would have had his hand cut off with the butcher knife Nicole put in her hand when she heard his truck pull up.
Ron would still be alive
Maybe. It depends who the intended victim was. If Ron were the intended victim, then Nicole might be alive today. He might have been killed at his apt later that night instead of at Nicole's condo. People dont consider that oj might not be the killer and that Nicole might not have been the intended target. Those same people also dont consider blood was planted and oj was framed.
Hard to say. If you take into consideration that oj really didnt do it and was framed for the murders we really have no idea that nicole was the intended target. It might have been Ron. It is possible Ron was followed to Nicole's condo and then his killers followed him to the gate and then once the gate was open Ron and Nicole were killed. The glasses only ensured both would be killed together. It doesnt mean Ron would still be alive. People who believe that believe oj was the killer and nicole was the intended target.
Crawford changed the timecard to fit Clarks' timeline.
Not true
@@milart12 What is not true.
@@philipwilliams1754 The unproven statement you made.
Another liar.Tia Gavin.
How so?
ron had a nice apartment his job could have been a front for drug dealing!
He was a dealer, he was also an informant for the fbi
You are sick.
The Goldman's aren't squeaky clean. Sorry. Nor are the Brown's, or the Simpson's. Facts. Doesn't make them evil ppl, just lost & misguided.
@@rawn4203 Do some digging. The guy wasn't a terrible person and certainly didn't deserve what happened to him but he was running in a scary crowd.
21:21 so when dat lawyer chick gotta chance to read rekt, what duh first question she axed? .... bwahahaha
Crawford a dam liar.
Could u repeat that in English
I like how a CPL lawyers tlk crap after they get paid .I hate fake ppl... disgusting
20:30 gotta love after the dude corrects the witness, that Clark chick gotta complain .... OVER RULED! bwahaha
The best was when Clark & Darden both exploded when Shapiro said "yes" to a different witness who asked if she was wrong about the date of the Simpson's divorce. Darden blurts out "Mr. Shapiro should put himself on the witness stand if he's gonna answer the questions." The entire courtroom laughed. Shapiro says "It's a public record. If we're arguing about the date of the divorce, we're gonna be here all day." The prosecution looked very foolish.
The credit card machine and the machine that they use to put the orders in and time clock were all wrong.
Alan Park saw no blood on the drive way,gate.
An interesting "tidbit" I got from listening to defense Detective Pat McKenna on a podcast was that OJ thought maybe Alan Park was stoned. This was because of the route he took to the airport which was not the fastest route and didn't seem logical because they were running late.
Was Park looking for it??? I think he was mainly looking for OJ, who running, ahem, a bit late.
Some ppl r jus not professional.sad
So was Ron on phone at 10 til 10 or did he leave at 10 til 10? 🤔
Thts y i look at my receipt for everthing 10 ppl = 6 adults -4 kids . We charge 2 kids as 1 adult . Equals. 7 adults an 1 kidd .... They got over chrgd
this girl looks like she could have played one of the power rangers xo xoxo
SHE SOUNDS LIKE HER AND MARSHA REHEARSED THIS ... SHE STOPPED CRYING ON A DIME
Tia is a trans man right?
They didnt have trans back then.
Notice they never showed Rons' time card.
Meaning?
@@IanP1963 They kept marking things and changing the time.
@@philipwilliams1754 Thanks. I never took any interest in 1995 in the trial, anyway as a Brit we had our own sensational trials. BUT now I am older, I can look at it more leisurely. We don't have TV trials here in Britain like the US does. No trial can be perfect.
@@IanP1963 If TV wasn't allowed,we would not have seen the glove demonstration,showing the gloves were clearly too small.Even after the world saw it,today they say the glove fit or they shrunk ,he stopped taking his arthritis medication.
@@IanP1963 I was really happy to watch it then,and rewatch it now.
Has anybody noticed how right angled Attorney Douglas head is?
marcia looks hot in that outfit!
Lol mr Shapiro clearly has never worked at a restaurant or with regular people. I forget to clock in or out more times than id like to say, than someone has to fix my time. Also if you get off work and you are cool with employees, you dont just leave, you chat, chill for a min. If people you know are sitting and eating you may just sit the f down lol. Jesus, i garentee rin wasnt eating, if he was, it was a snack haha. What does ron eating have to do with anything 🤔 anyway
What does it matter if Nicole and Ron were together it was still murdered and that's that murders murders murder doesn't matter if they were together and they were together and I don't know why OJ's team wants to establish that they were together because to me that would make OJ look more guilty because then that would justify the prosecution claim that he was obsessive abusive and that would be another nail on the coffin so to speak for him because that would give motive so I don't know why they're pressing on this them being a relationship because to me that would make him look bad and why would they want him to look bad and like I said it doesn't matter if they were together were together if they were friends if they were lovers whatever they were murdered that's bad doesn't give him the right to murder anybody for any reason nobody needs nobody just take nobody's life except God is the only person that decides when a person dies nobody else
Nicole Murphy Heard of punctuation.Full stops,comma's ,apostrophe's.
OJ killed no one.
The defense is trying to prove they werent romantically involved. The posed the questions to prove just that indicating that the motive for oj being a jealous ex was very weak. The more the jury saw them as two acquaintences and not lovers the more silly it looks that oj would be the killer. If they werent involved then oj has no motive. Add that with the fact oj already had a girlfriend. He had no reason to want nicole or be jealous she was with other men. He caught her performing oral sex on a man named Keith Zomlowich (spelling might be wrong) while their children were upstairs. He didnt kill that guy or Nicole. So him killing her out of jealousy doesnt make sense. The prosecution wanted to prove they were dating to establish motive for oj killing her. You have it backwards.
29:49
Why does it matter how much the bill was and how it was paid? What does that have to do with anything
To give timeframes on the receipt. I agree the amt paid is irrelevant but what was eaten may just be to validate the autopsy findings.
Yeah you're right and also why does it matter what the uniform looked like that has nothing to do with anything either.
Trust me, its more relevant than you think
@@rawn4203The medical examiner threw the stomach contents away
The relevancy is to establish that Ron made it to his apt and left to nicole's condo. If Ron had been in his waiter outfit when he was killed someone could argue Ron never made it to his apt, he was killed somewhere else, and his body was left at Nicole's after she was killed there. The fact his waiter uniform was found at his apartment and he was wearing different clothes at the crime scene indicates he made it home, drove to Nicole's, and he was killed there with Nicole.
The strange thing is they never found Ron's apartment key, and his apt was locked. It wasnt at the crime scene, on Ron's person, or in Andrea Scott's car. Some theorize that Ron had something at his apt and the killer (not oj) killed ron, took his keys, found what they wanted, stole it, and then locked his apt and left.
MARSHA WASTED ALL DAY ON THIS
Her tears are more credible than the ones from the sister's
Sup mahhomiees. OJ guilty cuz yo yo mahniguh duh word up yo dat mezzaluna beeyuh kinduh knife yoyoyo yo yo word ... yo.
WTF are you saying
she's not even crying for real, no tears, eyes as white as when she walked in. please stop! (white woman crying again)
Seemed very genuine to me. But this is coming from a white woman, so my opinion is probably invalid. Idiot.
Wow, you are so right, never seen any one from any other race cry like that for real. NOT !!! Black woman being racist against a white woman again !!!
Fake 😢
Oh shut your racist mouth, smh.
These ppl