this explained reels perfectly. i didn't know what people were talking about when they meant 'series', and now i completely understand. wonderful vid. thanks!
Took my brand new Battle II 5000 for a spin yesterday for the very first time and I hooked a 20lb yellowtail using a Ugly Stik X2 (medium hard) rod ruclips.net/user/postUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . This combo was recommended on some website and it did not disappoint me. The reel is smooth, the drag click is pretty cool cause i think it adds to the excitement of fighting the fish, personally the drag is my favorite part. I use braid and 300 yards will fill the entire spool. This combo is my main setup from now on although I have to disclose I am new to fishing.
*Bought a 500 for an ultralight rod. It's very smooth **enjoyable.fishing** recommend casts great. One odd thing- the bale wire is a bit heavy diameter in my opinion for a reel of this size. But a great purchase.*
One of my favorite rods right now is my ZEBCO Dock Demon 2.5’ rod paired with a PENN Pursuit4 4000 with 20lb mono spooled on it. Love catching big catfish with it. The faces people make is hilarious.
I have since spooled 30lb braid on the 4000, bought another Dock demon rod and put a Penn pursuit4 6000 reel spooled with 80lb braid. I might just try to go shark fishing with this one. lol.
Finally, someone said it. Today's spinning reels can perform as well, if not better, than their baitcasting counterparts. Yah yah yah, ie get for some applications like flipping and punching, baitcaster accuracy is easier to achieve, but I have long since said spinning reels can handle any and all of the applications bass fisherman utilize. Great video JP, thanks for posting.
Very useful video. What constitutes a medium- heavy spinning rod. I have a Shimano Ultegra xtd 5500 reel. I'm a bit unsure what rod I should get for it. Intend on using it for sea bass fishing on rocks and in surf.
@Emmanuel Goldstein Ya know, I can't confirm that since my old school made in japan shimano symetre 4000 was able to bring a sturgeon to the surface one night while on a pier. Not a baby sturgeon either. At least 5 feet long.
Very good video, thumbs up and subscribed. I am having a hard time finding this info but do you think a Daiwa Ballistic LT 5000 that weighs 8.1 oz and has a line capacity of Mono(lb/yd): 16/250, 20/195, 25/140 would be a good fit for a 9ft Medium Bass Pro ocean master thats 15-30 lbs. 1 - 3 oz. or should I go up in size to a 6000 Ballistic thats 11.1oz Mono 20/270 25/225 30/160. I want to get good distance at reservoirs using baits like worms and leeches but not sure what teh perfect balance would be above the reel.
Hey hi I am new to fishing, may I know why you are using such a heavy gear setup? And why do you want to cast far with the worm, what method is that? Is it like texas rig or dropshot? Sry if I'm asking too much questions 😅
@@heyneedhelp8266 I use a high low rig with 2 worms. I just like a heavy setup to cast far and do bait fishing at night with a bobber. I usually cast with a 2-3 oz lead. I am pretty new to fishing too.
@@preiudeh22a Oh i see, thanks ! I thought you are using plastic worms because they don't allow live baits for the reservoirs here .. And also over here, the fishes are already roaming close to the bank where we are standing as the water is deep enough, so we don't have to cast that far 😆
I've also read that a way to properly pair a spinning reel with a rod is more by balance than be weight. But honestly, I've found it difficult to get a setup where the rod is a close to level as possible. So, kinda thinking I should just ignore this and focus on the rod weight. Thanks for the quick and easy explanation!
The problem with balance as your focus is that reels are getting lighter and lighter making it tougher to balance the combo. Rear weighting a rod will be more effective. The main problem is size of reel versus power of rod which is why I made the video. Secondary becomes balance which is getting tougher and tougher unless you spend large $ on higher end rods that are using higher modulus blanks and higher cost, lighter guide trains.
Each manufacturer has their own number base.. can be sized in 10's, 100's or 1000's. A 20 is the same as a 200 which is the same as a 2000 in most instances... if that makes sense?
@@micahlee8661 I would go Medium or medium heavy with a 2500 and or 3000. The only difference between the two sizes is the 3000 holds roughly an extra 40 yards of 8lb test because the spool is deeper cut. The reels bodies are identical. I reserve 4000 and 5000 for heavy and extra heavy rods
most 5000s are built on the 6000s frame just smaller spool and same drag, example the penn fierce or penn battle, the 4000s in the examples i gave are quite a bit smaller
For Shimano, the 2500 and 3000 share the same body, as do the 4000 and 5000. On the salt side, 5000 & 6000, 8000 and 10000 often share the same as well.
Hey man, I have a 6ft 10" 20-60g penn lure rod for pike and I'll be running 30lb braid. I want a Daiwa Prorex 18 X LT but I can't decide on reel size. I'm hovering between 2500-4000. What would you recommend please?
I currently have a 10' medium light rod. I paired it with a 5000 size reel 13oz... and its tip heavy. The reel I'm looking at is in the 10-12oz range. What should I do? I would like to go as lightest as possible as I am not as young as I used to be. Thanks in advance!
It's almost impossible to balance a long rod unfortunately Roy. Your choice of reel size should be determined by the size of the fish/lures you'll be casting /targeting and what pound test and what king of line. To get away with a smaller reel, most guys use braid mainline like PowerPro, it also improves casting distance dramatically over mono. With a medium light you could be right on the money with the 5000 size, it's the length that hurts the balance unless you decide to weight the butt end of the rod like some people do
Considering new AbuGarcia MGX Extreme 2000 or 3000. Primarily target bass and pike inland Michigan lakes. Pair with AbuGarcia Fantasista M-7'6". Available Winter 2018-Early 2019 for same price (Retail $399) Any opinion on size choice with this pairing? Appreciate this video (new sub).
I'm not very familiar with the Abu sizing and models to be honest. Is the Extreme 2000 and 3000 spinning or casting reels? Also, what are you looking to throw for baits with it?
35 is the size. Some manufactures use 10,20,25,30,35 etc for the reel size, others use 1000,2000,2500,3000 etc... it just denotes size, smaller the number the smaller the reel
GarageDoorRapists with spinning reels you would have to use braid like Power Pro and I would say stay within the recommended pound rests with a 4000 or 5000 size reel
Would the 2500 be okay on an ultra light rod if the UL rod is 10'6"? I currently have a stradic c14 1000 on it but have been considering buying the 2500. (Used for stocked streamtrout in WV)
The most average /most popular/ length is about 7'. 9' or longer are really specialty rods like surf rods or "steelhead" rods, I do use them for long-casting fishing. For those bigger reels are ok, just to have the line capacity. On my 10.6' rod I got a 6000 reel, but I thought about getting a smaller/lighter reel with a big, wide spool on them. It really comes down to comfort at that point.
I run both 3000 and and 4000 reels on my medium rods and I have to say I really like the 4000 better... But thats probably cause the 3000 is a 70 dollar lews combo and the 4000 is a diawa saltist backbay on a st croix yak mojo..
In Saltwater the 4000 makes much more sense since the fish are much more powerful. These suggestions were based on freshwater angling. The quality of your reel depending on the manufacturer will make your experience much more enjoyable as well for sure!
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors I only freshwater fish, I got the 4000 saltist backbay for pike and other large freshwater fish.. I just like it so much I've been using it on a medium rod for trout and bass aswell.. I'm gonna be putting together a 9 foot combo next and was debating if I wanted the improved casting of the 4000 again over the sensitivity of the smaller 3000 reel.. The 9 foot rod will either be a medium or maybe a medium heavy if I can find one..
The 2000 is the same frame as a 1000, they just have a smaller arbor and hold a bit more line than the 1000 so I consider them Light and Medium Light reels
This video deserves millions of views..precise and well explained
This is one of the best explained fishing videos I’ve seen. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
this explained reels perfectly. i didn't know what people were talking about when they meant 'series', and now i completely understand. wonderful vid. thanks!
Took my brand new Battle II 5000 for a spin yesterday for the very first time and I hooked a 20lb yellowtail using a Ugly Stik X2 (medium hard) rod ruclips.net/user/postUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . This combo was recommended on some website and it did not disappoint me. The reel is smooth, the drag click is pretty cool cause i think it adds to the excitement of fighting the fish, personally the drag is my favorite part. I use braid and 300 yards will fill the entire spool. This combo is my main setup from now on although I have to disclose I am new to fishing.
*Bought a 500 for an ultralight rod. It's very smooth **enjoyable.fishing** recommend casts great. One odd thing- the bale wire is a bit heavy diameter in my opinion for a reel of this size. But a great purchase.*
Finally, someone who can articulate themselves. Awesome video, helped me out a ton!
Thanks 🙏 glad it helped
FINALLY A Professional Videos on this subject!! Thanks Man!!!!
Uhhhh, why does this only have 1500 views?!! Very informative and to the point! Excellent
Not sure Andrew... I can;t figure out this RUclips thing... it stumps me every often! lol
Excellent- made so much sense. Now I know what reel to aim for. Thank you.
Great work, informative and to the point. Helped me choose the correct reel for my spin rod, thank you.
Simple and straight points. Like it as always.!
One of my favorite rods right now is my ZEBCO Dock Demon 2.5’ rod paired with a PENN Pursuit4 4000 with 20lb mono spooled on it. Love catching big catfish with it. The faces people make is hilarious.
I have since spooled 30lb braid on the 4000, bought another Dock demon rod and put a Penn pursuit4 6000 reel spooled with 80lb braid. I might just try to go shark fishing with this one. lol.
Straight to the point! Excellent video.
Finally, someone said it. Today's spinning reels can perform as well, if not better, than their baitcasting counterparts. Yah yah yah, ie get for some applications like flipping and punching, baitcaster accuracy is easier to achieve, but I have long since said spinning reels can handle any and all of the applications bass fisherman utilize. Great video JP, thanks for posting.
Honestly I mainly use baitcaster because they A) have more power and B) they just feel more comfortable to me.
Finally found the video I was looking for thanks for the video
Straight forward, well informed, great job brother tks
This is what I needed to know.
Thanks
Very well explained thank you 👍
Great breakdown
thank you for this!! very informative and much needed!
thanks mate , exact video i needed to see
Very useful video. What constitutes a medium- heavy spinning rod. I have a Shimano Ultegra xtd 5500 reel. I'm a bit unsure what rod I should get for it. Intend on using it for sea bass fishing on rocks and in surf.
Very informative video
I have a 9 ft, 15-60 lb line rod for rockfishing. would it be fit to 4000 (shimano) size reel? Or need the bigger one?
Thanks...
You need lots of line for rock fish. Those big reds are 300 feet down.
If a reel model number is 25 or 30, is that the same as 2500 or 3000?
Basically yes, each manufacturer uses a different scale
Nice video JP
What about rear drag reels like a 4000 size but only has a 7 lbs drag? What's the best rod for this setup?
@Emmanuel Goldstein Ya know, I can't confirm that since my old school made in japan shimano symetre 4000 was able to bring a sturgeon to the surface one night while on a pier. Not a baby sturgeon either. At least 5 feet long.
Very good video, thumbs up and subscribed. I am having a hard time finding this info but do you think a Daiwa Ballistic LT 5000 that weighs 8.1 oz and has a line capacity of Mono(lb/yd): 16/250, 20/195, 25/140 would be a good fit for a 9ft Medium Bass Pro ocean master thats 15-30 lbs.
1 - 3 oz. or should I go up in size to a 6000 Ballistic thats 11.1oz Mono 20/270
25/225 30/160. I want to get good distance at reservoirs using baits like worms and leeches but not sure what teh perfect balance would be above the reel.
Hey hi I am new to fishing, may I know why you are using such a heavy gear setup? And why do you want to cast far with the worm, what method is that? Is it like texas rig or dropshot? Sry if I'm asking too much questions 😅
@@heyneedhelp8266 I use a high low rig with 2 worms. I just like a heavy setup to cast far and do bait fishing at night with a bobber. I usually cast with a 2-3 oz lead. I am pretty new to fishing too.
@@preiudeh22a Oh i see, thanks ! I thought you are using plastic worms because they don't allow live baits for the reservoirs here .. And also over here, the fishes are already roaming close to the bank where we are standing as the water is deep enough, so we don't have to cast that far 😆
I've also read that a way to properly pair a spinning reel with a rod is more by balance than be weight. But honestly, I've found it difficult to get a setup where the rod is a close to level as possible. So, kinda thinking I should just ignore this and focus on the rod weight. Thanks for the quick and easy explanation!
The problem with balance as your focus is that reels are getting lighter and lighter making it tougher to balance the combo. Rear weighting a rod will be more effective. The main problem is size of reel versus power of rod which is why I made the video. Secondary becomes balance which is getting tougher and tougher unless you spend large $ on higher end rods that are using higher modulus blanks and higher cost, lighter guide trains.
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors Great feedback, JP. Thank you. I'll be running out to my garage to inspect my rigs now!
I’e seen penn reels labeled 200’s what are the advantages of these? Thanks!
Each manufacturer has their own number base.. can be sized in 10's, 100's or 1000's. A 20 is the same as a 200 which is the same as a 2000 in most instances... if that makes sense?
A Penn 2000 is also much larger then a Shimano 2000 fyi
I have 5000 kastking reel, what line thickness should i use?. Thanks,!
Hi. Would a 5000 just be optimal for bait throwing. Or would I be able to jig and lure with a 5000. Thanks
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Wait so can I pair a 2500 reel with a medium light action rod?
That would be the biggest I would go. It would be a bit of a mismatch but still manageable
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors okay. What would be a good match for a 2500 reel then? Oh, and a 3000 reel too
@@micahlee8661 I would go Medium or medium heavy with a 2500 and or 3000. The only difference between the two sizes is the 3000 holds roughly an extra 40 yards of 8lb test because the spool is deeper cut. The reels bodies are identical. I reserve 4000 and 5000 for heavy and extra heavy rods
I decided to pair my stradic FL c5000xg with a 30lb braid to an 8ft Shimano Lurematic MH rod
most 5000s are built on the 6000s frame just smaller spool and same drag, example the penn fierce or penn battle, the 4000s in the examples i gave are quite a bit smaller
For Shimano, the 2500 and 3000 share the same body, as do the 4000 and 5000. On the salt side, 5000 & 6000, 8000 and 10000 often share the same as well.
whats the best reel for my 60lbs mono line for saltwater fishing?
Hey man, I have a 6ft 10" 20-60g penn lure rod for pike and I'll be running 30lb braid. I want a Daiwa Prorex 18 X LT but I can't decide on reel size. I'm hovering between 2500-4000. What would you recommend please?
4000 for 30lb braid.
I have a daiwa tatula medium 7ft spinning rod, and i paired it with a 4000 size daiwa exceler should i down size the reel to a 3000
Medium rods typically pair best with 2500 and 3000 size reels for balance from my experience
@JPDeRoseOutdoors ok, that's awesome, thank you. I do have a medium heavy St. croix 7 spinning rod. Would the 4000 exceler work well with that rod
@@luismaldonado7527 that would be a better match!
@JPDeRoseOutdoors ok awesome. I really appreciate the advice. Thank you so much
I currently have a 10' medium light rod. I paired it with a 5000 size reel 13oz... and its tip heavy. The reel I'm looking at is in the 10-12oz range. What should I do? I would like to go as lightest as possible as I am not as young as I used to be. Thanks in advance!
I should add this would apply to surf fishing.
It's almost impossible to balance a long rod unfortunately Roy. Your choice of reel size should be determined by the size of the fish/lures you'll be casting /targeting and what pound test and what king of line. To get away with a smaller reel, most guys use braid mainline like PowerPro, it also improves casting distance dramatically over mono. With a medium light you could be right on the money with the 5000 size, it's the length that hurts the balance unless you decide to weight the butt end of the rod like some people do
I saw a lot of small reels on a big rods at Basspro shop..kinda confusing to me.
Considering new AbuGarcia MGX Extreme 2000 or 3000. Primarily target bass and pike inland Michigan lakes. Pair with AbuGarcia Fantasista M-7'6". Available Winter 2018-Early 2019 for same price (Retail $399) Any opinion on size choice with this pairing? Appreciate this video (new sub).
I'm not very familiar with the Abu sizing and models to be honest. Is the Extreme 2000 and 3000 spinning or casting reels? Also, what are you looking to throw for baits with it?
What does gs 35 mean in my spinning reel?
35 is the size. Some manufactures use 10,20,25,30,35 etc for the reel size, others use 1000,2000,2500,3000 etc... it just denotes size, smaller the number the smaller the reel
What size reel would I use for a medium heavy rod with line rating of 20-40 pound?
GarageDoorRapists with spinning reels you would have to use braid like Power Pro and I would say stay within the recommended pound rests with a 4000 or 5000 size reel
Thenks
Would the 2500 be okay on an ultra light rod if the UL rod is 10'6"? I currently have a stradic c14 1000 on it but have been considering buying the 2500. (Used for stocked streamtrout in WV)
On a 10'6" the 2500 would fit very well
Dude, this is a great video!
Would love to see one about baitcasters and what rods they are best paired with based on gear ratios.
So a 3000 and 4000 have basically no size difference other than a deeper spool ?
No, a 2500 and 3000 are the same body and the 4000 & 5000 are the same body. Deeper spools on the 3000 and 5000
When referring to the rods what length of rods are they 7’ or 9’
The most average /most popular/ length is about 7'. 9' or longer are really specialty rods like surf rods or "steelhead" rods, I do use them for long-casting fishing. For those bigger reels are ok, just to have the line capacity. On my 10.6' rod I got a 6000 reel, but I thought about getting a smaller/lighter reel with a big, wide spool on them. It really comes down to comfort at that point.
So the 3000 is the same body size as the 2500 but the 3000 has a deeper spool
Correct
I run both 3000 and and 4000 reels on my medium rods and I have to say I really like the 4000 better...
But thats probably cause the 3000 is a 70 dollar lews combo and the 4000 is a diawa saltist backbay on a st croix yak mojo..
In Saltwater the 4000 makes much more sense since the fish are much more powerful. These suggestions were based on freshwater angling. The quality of your reel depending on the manufacturer will make your experience much more enjoyable as well for sure!
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors I only freshwater fish, I got the 4000 saltist backbay for pike and other large freshwater fish..
I just like it so much I've been using it on a medium rod for trout and bass aswell..
I'm gonna be putting together a 9 foot combo next and was debating if I wanted the improved casting of the 4000 again over the sensitivity of the smaller 3000 reel..
The 9 foot rod will either be a medium or maybe a medium heavy if I can find one..
what about 2000 reels ?
In North America our first Shimano 2000 size reel was offered only recently with Vanford. In other Countries the 2000 is much more common.
The 2000 is the same frame as a 1000, they just have a smaller arbor and hold a bit more line than the 1000 so I consider them Light and Medium Light reels
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors Great, thank you
Dang... Should have seen this video before I went and bought my shimano 4000. 3000 would have been better for me.
Absolutely GREAT information. But that music.........
I use 12lb mono on a 3000 size, 100m.
Had to turn it off. The noise in the back round was too annoying.
Does he have 0subscirbers?
I just bought a shimano twin powder 6000. Do you think it would good pairing to my 10’6 St. Croix surf rod?
Can't see why not? Putting lighter lb test Braid will help a lot with casting distance.