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Times sure have changed. Back in the 80's and 90's when I was fishing heavy, subjects like this never came up. You went to the store and bought a reel to go fishing. Most spincast could handle anything. I caught 5-7 lb carp on a Zebco 202 as a kid. My dad caught a 36" 8.5 LB Northern Pike on a Zebco 33. I stepped up to baitcasters and got a Quantum 310 MG (Mid 80's reel that was my first reel I bought from my first job 79.99) and it will handle anything. I love that reel and still have it today , its hanging right above my head here. I fished the Great Miami River for Smallmouth bass in '97 and bought the original Mitchell Spidercast rig with Spiderwire. Still have it today I just respooled some braid on it. I'm glad I have saved all my old reels now.
I have two Zebco 303's, a micro for my daughter, and the regular size one for my wife. It's a lot easier for them (and consequently ME) than putting them on spinning reels. 8.5lb seems kind of light for a 36" fish, but regardless - thats a LOT of fish for one of those reels, I'm sure it was quite a thrill.
As an old rod builder, I appreciate you guys covering one of the many topics we discuss with a customer - reel weight/size - as it seriously matters with overall balance, and longer fishing endurance. (two identical rods of weight, but one balanced and one not... you know how that experiment works out - especially with a fly rod) I wish you would have also included the topic of drag differences as well. Good info though, and good video as usual!
Yup at 64 I feel that 4 hrs of white bass bite I go as light as I can using 5/8 spinners 30’ deep The power handles seem to work on the smaller rigs purchased a Zata 3 k probably should have got the 4 Not really impressive figured Abu should be there But it’s ok
@@kencleg7721 Yes Sir, agreed. At 61, I can appreciate exactly what you mean. The handle size (overall design, diameter AND length) can all make an extremely dynamic overall difference, in not only casting performance, but especially - fatigue at the end of the day in many circumstances - but there's FAR more to it than that. (I wish Lefty Kreh was still here to chime in) Balance is a tad more critical than overall weight - and that also includes lure weight-to-rod/rod weight-intended design as well. As a rod builder, it's been a fun ride delving so deep over the decades, into something so many believe to be... "trivial"... and then decades later, watch them use our designs and swear by them. lol Sometimes the innovators are forgotten so quickly - especially in rod design. In my tenure, I've been extremely lucky to know the finest rod builders on the planet during the first few decades of the 21st century, and I'd be willing to bet 99.99998% of all fishermen - PROS INCLUDED - have never even heard their names mentioned. *sigh* Such is the industry, it seems...
Fuego LT 1000D-P, 2000D-P 2500D 2500DXH 3000 4000D-C all have the same drag washers BG13 BG15 GS15 The same size drag, BG20 BG30 The same size drag, BG60 BG90 GS9 The same size drag....
Great video. I bought a BG 4000 and a Penn Battle 4000 II, and the BG was more like a 5000 when compared to the Battle. I returned the Battle; the BG was a better tool for my needs and the BG seemed to be higher quality.
The 4000 series is I believe, the best reel for inshore salt. Slightly bigger than a 2500/3000 but has a much higher line capacity (specifically braid) I catch redfish and flounder on a Penn battle 4/penn battle 4 dx sitting on a medium light rod and it’s more than capable. For surf (bull red/sharks) I go for a 6000/8000 with a medium/medium heavy rod. For anyone just starting out, go for a 4000. The minimal size increase is well worth the extra line capacity. I only buy Penn reels, and I’ve never been disappointed.
Look at it like this though, a fuego 2500 has 22lb max drag compared to 14-17lb on your average 4000 series reels. If you get spooled with 22lbs of drag, you brought the complete wrong setup for where you were fishing.
Quick note. I’m not the “expert” at ANY type of fishing but the years fished will develop a feel/confidence for reels. To me, PENN speaks volumes as well as Dawai in 2nd (only because of less usage, however the time with Dawai has been excellent). Besides those 2…Not here to trash any manufacturers but 1 in particular, with many years of use,has been disappointing. Your use of the boxes and therefore keeping the reels organized made things sooo much easier to understand 👍
Same, but 10lb braid. I have several Pursuits, and my main rod is a spinfisher 2500. I've got some Wrath 2500's too, they're felt drag, not the carbon fiber ones, but I paid like 20 bucks each for them. They're great for loaners, kids, etc. My sons inshore rod has one of the Wraths on it.
the C on Daiwa reels denotes compact body. So that is a 3000 reel with a 2500 body. You can also get 4000s with a compact 2500 size body. If you notice the BG 3500 and 4000 you compared do not have the C - Compact denomination hence the bigger body than the Fuego. 4000D-C reels are great if you like smashing your knuckles on the rotor.
Well said - I believe no one expect to buy cheap reel with characteristics of expensive ones. What about drag power ? The BG series didn't change the drag power, 4000 series have same drag as 2500 series, but the size and weight is much bigger which means BG line is total crap and waste of money. Shimano has similar examples - cheap series are bigger, heavier and less power drag than expensive lines....
Really depends on the guide size as to what reel to use .The line guide on reel should be centered with the center of bottom guide when line guide is closest to rod for best casting.
That's the C in the name of the Fuego 3000. What it means is that it has the body of the lower size (in this case 2500) and the spool of a 3000. This is explained somewhere in the Daiwa website.
Seems like you are trying to explain something that even the manufacturer can’t explain as to why the sizes are different between their lines of reels. Would be nice if the manufacturer would keep all 2500’s the same size and the 3000’s the same size etc.
This is not true. Daiwa explains the size differences quite clearly. The reason the Fuegos in this video seem smaller is because of the C in the name. This is all explained in Daiwa's website.
I use 4000 spooled with 0.25mm mono I’m using my reels to 5500 spiked with 0.25 mm mono for carp fishing so I can cast 100yards or more that why bigger reels with thinner mono
💥 It's really just a measuring stick that manufacturers use to compare sizes between reels in the same model line. 1500, 2500, 3500 doesn't really mean any measurable spec of anything (weight, size, capacity etc...) Even with pickup trucks 150, 250 350 (Ford) 1500, 2500, 3500 (Chevy/Dodge) ...it used to mean 1/2 , 3/4 and 1 ton. Now with today's trucks having greater payloads & towing capacity...the designations are little more than for model comparison within the same brand.
@myxer516 haha early reply just got the notification. Yea I bought a 2500 Daiwa BG it is amazing.. I just don’t use a 4000 ever I only fish rivers and lakes
I actually also spent a lot of time investigating this whole reel size issue and I much prefer the "older" system. That actually originated (afaik) from the following system: a 3000 size reel held 100m of 0.30 mono line, a 5000 size reel held 100m of 0.50 mono and so on. If you use reel capacity conversion calculators you can easily check this :) so the older Daiwa 5000 saltwater sizes that are now 8000 in the new system made more sense for actual comparison in terms of line capacity :)
Good point old school here Mitchell 300 410 s were just that deep shallow spools The new gear ratio reels 5.8 and above are something to get used to I have to remind myself not to get faster than the fish The torque values are different
I just choose size based on the rod it’s going on, I use a 3000 size Shimano for bass fishing in lakes and ponds, but the only reason why I didn’t go with a 2000 or 2500 size is the fact that is was going on a 7ft rod
Tbh I felt the same too. I love ultralight fishing. I use 1000 for trout and striper fishing. However I accidentally hooked on to a very large halibut inshore and it spooled me. So I just bought a 3000 shimano twin power xd. 30 lb of heat sealed drag
You are a brave one. I also fish a 1000 - 1500 size. I also keep extra drag disks on hand. The big ones school or spool you. 8 or 10 pound braid 20 - 40 leader.
This is a subject that I find many people don't realize. Sometimes you will see this with different products from the same manufacturer. Many times you will see a spinning reel product line and then a "saltwater" spinning reel line. One manufacturer has a 3000/3500 serious reel and but it's the same line capacity as 5000/5500 series in another product line.
I had no idea. I though size were kinda different between brands. I ordered a Okuma Ceymar OTD 1000. It arrived and it's about the size of a 500. I still really like it. My Diawa Legalis 3000 is much smaller than a 3000 Kastking I have. Don't laugh my Kastking is a beast. 😂 It replaced a new Lews Smash whild practically exploded first fish. The Lews American Hero lasted about one year. That's another topic though and not a good one. 😂
Here in Florida 4000 is considered as a universal size meaning good for anything heck even hooked up a 50lb cobia with it on land got it in. 3000 or lower is good for light jigs, light lure or light biting fish like sheepshead etc, but Shimano all day for me.
I have a Ashino local size 4000 from Thailand is pick it up for 10$ It like medium size Reel for children light weight and I put it on my daiwa liberty club short power a absolute nice combo for35$
Thanks for this review on the reels. It's much easier to listen to your review than to go thru all the data on line. And you point out details that one would not think of.
i own a daiwa BG 3000 and daiwa BG 3500. you would think you wouldn't hardly be able to tell them apart. their completly two different animals. i have my 3000 on a lite 7ft rod that i use for fluke off the beach and the 3500 is right at home on a 9 ft surf rod for blues and bass. the 3500 is five ounces heavier than the 3000.
About 40 years ago, the AFTMA [precourser to ASA] managed to get the reel manufacturers together, and agree on a standardized sizing system. it held together for about 5 years, and then things started to deviate substantially.
Also leg height to angle that which the line comes off to your 1st eye including the distance from spool to eye size for casting comes into the equation. I’m fussy git & have to try to pair up just right for casting. I’ve purchased excellent rods just because of the blanks then had eyes changed to match curve load/cast profile for a specific reel match.
This seems like you're splitting hairs too finely... You're never going to sit there and curse your reel out when you lose a fish, and say to yourself "I would've had that fish if it weren't for this undersized reel!" No, you lose a fish because a knot slips or the line breaks... i say, get a reel you like, cuz the differences between the reels are so minor, that someone who doesn't fish for 15hrs a day isn't going to notice.
Or you're fishing for a 50-100# Wahoo or maybe a big Dolphin and a 600# Marlin decides to hit. Smoked that reel, Penn Senator 113H. Dolphin tournament out of Marathon with the typical 25# rigs and a 350# Marlin gloms onto a schoolie that you've just hooked up, actually released that one after 1.75 hrs.
The real reason is that most people don't set their drags properly. I back off all of the drags when I get home and reset them to 30% of line weight before going out the next time. SET IT AND NEVER TOUCH IT! I've lost tens of thousands of dollars from anglers playing with the drags.
@@steveteetor4301 I understand what you're saying, and hear you. But those are special circumstances and not necessarily the fault of the reel, it's more of not having the right weight of line for that accidental hook up. Personally, aside from one nurse shark, I've never caught anything bigger than my hand, so I've not the best experience to know all the differences between the reels and their impact on fishing.
I will be fishing the Yukon River in Alaska This summer for Pike in the range of 44-53 inches. The guide requires 65lb braid. Is a 4000 series a good choice for this?
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At the end of this presentation, you forgot to answer the opening question as to which of these reels would be more suitable for catching a sea trout or any other species. I guess all these numerous model/capacity/weight/size differences are part of a sales strategy.
i feel larger diameter spools cast further than small spools thats why i'll get a size bigger. i don't necessarily care about a spools capability to carry 300 yds of 20 or something like that. for me 150 yds is fine. braid is expensive and i'm not loading up a spool with 20 dollars worth of line thats gonna be buried for two seasons then thrown out. old mono to fill the spool a third of the way up than my braid up to the top works just fine.
So, what is the body size difference between the Diawa Ballistic 3000 MQ LT and the 4000 size....or are they the same body size........want to pair it with a ODM DNA 8'0 for light surf fishing in the Fall.............thanks.
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Im really torn. I have an 8'6 rod rated for 3/8-2oz and was originally running a 3000 okuma on it (runs same sizing as the fuego, and got a 3000 bg to go on in it instead as I thought the reel seemed small for the rod. I have time to be able to swap to a 2500bg if I wanted too. Do you guys think the 3000bg is just too big or about right for that rod? Im beyond torn here.
I notice on the Penn Pursuit reels the 3000 is only an ounce or so less than the 4000. Given that I'd take the 4000 but the 3000 could also do 90 percent of my other fishing.
I realize you guys are shills for Daiwa, but if you’re going to have a video titled “truth about reel sizes”, you really should include other brands as well. It would be nice to see how these reels measure up to Penns, Shimanos, etc. and no mention of line capacity is a huge omission for this type of video. Normally I like a lot of your stuff but this one isn’t your best work
Don't be a clown you sound like an angry penn/shimano fan boy. Shimano doesn't have very much to offer in the under $200 price range. While Daiwa has the sub $200 range locked down. Penn has durability and some budget reels but they have line lay issues, are BIG, heavy and don't compare to other offerings(refinement) in the same categories especially when targeting smaller fish. Lews sw fishing reels are overrated and overpriced. The usual reccomended inshore reels(in online forums and on yt) as the budget goes up are: $30 Shimano Sienna $75 Daiwa legalis LT $100 Daiwa Fuego/ Daiwa BG/ Penn Battle $150 spinfisher (maybe? $150 is kind of a dead zone) $200+ anything shimano especially Stradics (rest in peace the Ci4+)
@@fuq584 it's a fair point while comparing reel sizes..... While i agree that shimano sub $200 is meh, doesn't mean comparing their reel sizes is worthless
Shimano is smoother. But Daiwa last longer . I got new BG and old BG is 40 years old. Two Ryobi Applause and Vertigo is 40 and 35 years old. Much abused. Seldom greese. But never dunk in salt water except 2 hour boat rides with constant sea spray.
😂 I recently ordered a Okuma Ceymar OTD 1000 size. It's about the size of a 500. It's a very good reel and I believe it has a 12 lb drag . I wished I got a 2000 though.
We have videos for those! Specific reels are covered on our channel. This is just a basic overview of the different sizes and how they compare between different manufacturers
Depending on the manufacturer the number could also relate to the max line diameter it is specced for. I know almost all my old Silstars use this "rule" the last two digits in the model no (later the only two digits in the model no) was the metric max line diameter. then unless the reel was a long line model it would typically wold about 100m of the thickest specked lkine, except for those old closed face reels, they tend to have really small spools.
can i use a small reel with 8kg max drag for ultralight? I can't find good enough budget price for a decent UL reel that's affordable at my place, I have this.. look small enough to be UL setup but its 8 pounds max drag.
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Really enjoy these videos. Nice to see comparisons, and reel sizes explained by experienced, and knowledgeable staff. Salt Strong is quality content. Thank you.
Thanks for the visual comparison, I'm not a novice or an expert, somewhere in between and this is useful information. I've recently bought a Daiwa Ninja 2500A freshwater reel, pleasantly surprised by the level of quality for the price, I'm considering another Daiwa reel in a larger size eg 3000 or 4000 and doing a bit of homework before buying.
Can you do this type of video maybe on pairing reels on rod length perhaps? Like maybe surf rods? It's a stretch to maybe ask. I struggle with stuff like this and am looking at either a bg 4000, tsunami shield 5000 or a van staal vr200 on a tsunami trophy 2 10ft rod. Target species would be striped bass, bluefish, then if I bring rod to Florida then obviously Jack's, snook, reds all with lures. And with 30lb braid. And currently using a 1st Gen penn battle 6000 with 50lb braid for mostly 1.5oz lures to max 3.5 ounces.
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Daiwa LT3000 reels are bigger than LT2500 reels. It's the lt3000-C that is smaller. You need to learn what the letters mean, c means compact i.e. one body size smaller than regular reel. Take a look at the freams, for instance, comes in LT3000-C and larger LT3000 size.
how can i tell the size of a reel if i can not find such info on the reel of packaging? i have a new mitchell 300-c model and wondering what size reel this is?
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A rod is a stick to throw the lure / bait out and a reel is just something to hold the line. Ignore all the manufacturers names and sizes , ignore other people's recommendations and just pick what feels right to you. There is a lot of nonsense talked in ALL aspects of fishing. Put the right bait or lure in the right place at the right time and you will catch fish. And that is what you have to work out for yourself and your particular fishing locations and preferences.
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I like them reb black reels. I never get new always have to buy used. But. This year ide love set of 6 red black ide like all 6 rods I use for bass to be same color. Not same size or name was few names so I can pick my best. Then when use and find the best I like I'll give away the others to some special kids out here at the lake or river. I've run group 15 years now going for 1 or 2 years left then stop the group. I'll hate that but my health can run it alone anymore but I hope I find few more soon my budget small so it's taken little to find some. Y'all have a god bless.
Unless this is your livelihood there are just WAY too many real choices/options for us once or twice a month fishermen. When I bought four reals to go on four different sized poles it felt to me like throwing darts.
Would a 3000 or 4000 fuego be good for live bait/ dock / artificial …. Trying to figure out which best all around reel for a 7ft medium heavy fast rod … as it is my first and only rod for now.
@myxer516 i got a quick question? I found the penn battle 2 7’ at walmart with the 4000 reel for 130 You think that’s good? Or should i go with the penn fierce 3 7’ 5000 from bass pro for 140ish
I do bass fishing(lots of the hooks getting stuck tho) pier fishing every month when the weathers good and surf fishing in the summer do you think that’s a good setup?
@@jasonsoto6163 I have two Fierce 3 in size 8000. I recently had to return one back to Amazon because of a whining noise that developed right quickly. I definitely would go with the Penn Battle or the Diawa BG Big Game.
What ever happened to the reverse feature on most spinning reels. I find it VERY useful to adjust the amount of slack line when fishing off a boat in the ocean.
It is interesting to me that my 3500 Series Penn Spinfisher from the 90's seem about half the size of my 4000 size cheap Daiwa from last year. Is it the brands or did they get bigger with time? The cheap Daiwa is a lot smotther, holds a lot more line, and casts better. But one of my three Daiwas has already been retired because the anti reverse doesn't work. Both Penn's work about as well as they did 25 years ago.
Got BG 4500 twin anti reverse. If the anti reverse bearing kaput. I got the teeth anti reverse ones as back up !😁 Always buy BG. Top ten reel in the world !
I just saw a video where someone advised against buying a fuego because of the way it flexes. I wanted to ask questions about the flexing but the video has comments turned off. Do you also see unacceptable amounts of flexing in the fuego 3000?
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Much of this reel size and weight is marketing hype. Line weight and capacity is the main factors in choosing a reel. The only reason to choose a big reel is heavy line and reel capacity.
Rarely got what I wanted when trying to order from catalogs or online stores over many years. No consistent standards of measurement between companies.
That's like buying a Pontiac G6 instead of an F250... Shimano's products and customer service has gone WAY downhill over the last year. Ironically, this was also the first year in forever that Shimano didn't win a single award in the reel categories at ICAST. But if you love Pontiacs, then Shimano is the way to go.
@@Saltstrong haha ....because you're not a diawa fan boy. I have far to many reels of all brands, including diawa. I was just joking around and have no experience with shimanos customer service in recent times. However the 3000 size stradic model fl just so happens to be on my favorite rod, maybe it's not reel and just the rod that makes the whole combination feel good? If you're going to compare shimano reels to a Pontiac G6 then diawa wouldn't be an F250....maybe more like a prius
Was planning on getting Fuego 1000 with 0.10 braid for perch, ans 3000 with 0.20 for pike. It's kind of proper braids and reel sizes for applications right?
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From dollar to Philippine money
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100 bucks is amazing, what do you get ?
Times sure have changed. Back in the 80's and 90's when I was fishing heavy, subjects like this never came up. You went to the store and bought a reel to go fishing. Most spincast could handle anything. I caught 5-7 lb carp on a Zebco 202 as a kid. My dad caught a 36" 8.5 LB Northern Pike on a Zebco 33. I stepped up to baitcasters and got a Quantum 310 MG (Mid 80's reel that was my first reel I bought from my first job 79.99) and it will handle anything. I love that reel and still have it today , its hanging right above my head here. I fished the Great Miami River for Smallmouth bass in '97 and bought the original Mitchell Spidercast rig with Spiderwire. Still have it today I just respooled some braid on it. I'm glad I have saved all my old reels now.
Thanks for the input!
I have two Zebco 303's, a micro for my daughter, and the regular size one for my wife. It's a lot easier for them (and consequently ME) than putting them on spinning reels. 8.5lb seems kind of light for a 36" fish, but regardless - thats a LOT of fish for one of those reels, I'm sure it was quite a thrill.
As an old rod builder, I appreciate you guys covering one of the many topics we discuss with a customer - reel weight/size - as it seriously matters with overall balance, and longer fishing endurance. (two identical rods of weight, but one balanced and one not... you know how that experiment works out - especially with a fly rod)
I wish you would have also included the topic of drag differences as well.
Good info though, and good video as usual!
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Yup at 64 I feel that 4 hrs of white bass bite I go as light as I can using 5/8 spinners 30’ deep The power handles seem to work on the smaller rigs purchased a Zata 3 k probably should have got the 4 Not really impressive figured Abu should be there But it’s ok
@@kencleg7721
Yes Sir, agreed.
At 61, I can appreciate exactly what you mean.
The handle size (overall design, diameter AND length) can all make an extremely dynamic overall difference, in not only casting performance, but especially - fatigue at the end of the day in many circumstances - but there's FAR more to it than that.
(I wish Lefty Kreh was still here to chime in)
Balance is a tad more critical than overall weight - and that also includes lure weight-to-rod/rod weight-intended design as well.
As a rod builder, it's been a fun ride delving so deep over the decades, into something so many believe to be... "trivial"... and then decades later, watch them use our designs and swear by them. lol
Sometimes the innovators are forgotten so quickly - especially in rod design.
In my tenure, I've been extremely lucky to know the finest rod builders on the planet during the first few decades of the 21st century, and I'd be willing to bet 99.99998% of all fishermen - PROS INCLUDED - have never even heard their names mentioned.
*sigh*
Such is the industry, it seems...
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Fuego LT 1000D-P, 2000D-P 2500D 2500DXH 3000 4000D-C all have the same drag washers BG13 BG15 GS15 The same size drag, BG20 BG30 The same size drag, BG60 BG90 GS9 The same size drag....
Great video. I bought a BG 4000 and a Penn Battle 4000 II, and the BG was more like a 5000 when compared to the Battle. I returned the Battle; the BG was a better tool for my needs and the BG seemed to be higher quality.
The 4000 series is I believe, the best reel for inshore salt. Slightly bigger than a 2500/3000 but has a much higher line capacity (specifically braid) I catch redfish and flounder on a Penn battle 4/penn battle 4 dx sitting on a medium light rod and it’s more than capable. For surf (bull red/sharks) I go for a 6000/8000 with a medium/medium heavy rod. For anyone just starting out, go for a 4000. The minimal size increase is well worth the extra line capacity. I only buy Penn reels, and I’ve never been disappointed.
**battle 3 series**
Yep, the 4000 has the line capacity to fight a sustained battle if you happen to tangle with a big red or Jack.
Look at it like this though, a fuego 2500 has 22lb max drag compared to 14-17lb on your average 4000 series reels. If you get spooled with 22lbs of drag, you brought the complete wrong setup for where you were fishing.
Quick note. I’m not the “expert” at ANY type of fishing but the years fished will develop a feel/confidence for reels. To me, PENN speaks volumes as well as Dawai in 2nd (only because of less usage, however the time with Dawai has been excellent). Besides those 2…Not here to trash any manufacturers but 1 in particular, with many years of use,has been disappointing.
Your use of the boxes and therefore keeping the reels organized made things sooo much easier to understand 👍
Spheros is the best.
Penn 2500, 7’ rod, 15lb braid is my go to setup for most situations
Thanks for sharing!
Same, but 10lb braid. I have several Pursuits, and my main rod is a spinfisher 2500. I've got some Wrath 2500's too, they're felt drag, not the carbon fiber ones, but I paid like 20 bucks each for them. They're great for loaners, kids, etc. My sons inshore rod has one of the Wraths on it.
the C on Daiwa reels denotes compact body. So that is a 3000 reel with a 2500 body. You can also get 4000s with a compact 2500 size body. If you notice the BG 3500 and 4000 you compared do not have the C - Compact denomination hence the bigger body than the Fuego. 4000D-C reels are great if you like smashing your knuckles on the rotor.
This!
Well said - I believe no one expect to buy cheap reel with characteristics of expensive ones. What about drag power ? The BG series didn't change the drag power, 4000 series have same drag as 2500 series, but the size and weight is much bigger which means BG line is total crap and waste of money. Shimano has similar examples - cheap series are bigger, heavier and less power drag than expensive lines....
Really depends on the guide size as to what reel to use .The line guide on reel should be centered with the center of bottom guide when line guide is closest to rod for best casting.
Doesn't matter where the bail arm is as soon as it is is open, it goes straight to the first line guide .. straight** 😅
@@michaelmills7789 Try using a 4000 size real on a ultralight then you'll catch on .
That's the C in the name of the Fuego 3000. What it means is that it has the body of the lower size (in this case 2500) and the spool of a 3000. This is explained somewhere in the Daiwa website.
Me who has a 5,000:*sweats nervously*
Seems like you are trying to explain something that even the manufacturer can’t explain as to why the sizes are different between their lines of reels. Would be nice if the manufacturer would keep all 2500’s the same size and the 3000’s the same size etc.
Agree! Same with rods. Why can't there be agreed upon sizes?
This is not true. Daiwa explains the size differences quite clearly. The reason the Fuegos in this video seem smaller is because of the C in the name. This is all explained in Daiwa's website.
And Shimano is always a fair bit smaller then any other reel of the same 'size'
It’s all about line capacity weight casting and drag
I use 4000 spooled with 0.25mm mono I’m using my reels to 5500 spiked with 0.25 mm mono for carp fishing so I can cast 100yards or more that why bigger reels with thinner mono
I have 2 BG 6500s and 5 BG 8000s I love them
💥 It's really just a measuring stick that manufacturers use to compare sizes between reels in the same model line. 1500, 2500, 3500 doesn't really mean any measurable spec of anything (weight, size, capacity etc...) Even with pickup trucks 150, 250 350 (Ford) 1500, 2500, 3500 (Chevy/Dodge) ...it used to mean 1/2 , 3/4 and 1 ton. Now with today's trucks having greater payloads & towing capacity...the designations are little more than for model comparison within the same brand.
This guy is a master salesman. Wish I had someone like you local.
I have every BG reel from back in day till now and they are my favorite they all work flawless
Daiwa BG?? I’m looking to buy one. Is this the only brand you have?
@@w0lf149 i have every brand reel made pretty much but for salt i use shimano,diawa, lews and van stal
@@travisbruno1988 what would YOU recommend for a 2000-3000 reel? I was thinking the daiwa BG 2500 as everyone raves about it but not to sure
@myxer516 haha early reply just got the notification. Yea I bought a 2500 Daiwa BG it is amazing.. I just don’t use a 4000 ever I only fish rivers and lakes
Black Gold and their Korean copy ( Banax, surprising v good ) are Malaysian angler top saltwater reel
I actually also spent a lot of time investigating this whole reel size issue and I much prefer the "older" system. That actually originated (afaik) from the following system: a 3000 size reel held 100m of 0.30 mono line, a 5000 size reel held 100m of 0.50 mono and so on. If you use reel capacity conversion calculators you can easily check this :) so the older Daiwa 5000 saltwater sizes that are now 8000 in the new system made more sense for actual comparison in terms of line capacity :)
Thanks for the feedback!
Good point old school here Mitchell 300 410 s were just that deep shallow spools The new gear ratio reels 5.8 and above are something to get used to I have to remind myself not to get faster than the fish The torque values are different
I just choose size based on the rod it’s going on, I use a 3000 size Shimano for bass fishing in lakes and ponds, but the only reason why I didn’t go with a 2000 or 2500 size is the fact that is was going on a 7ft rod
I only use a spinner since I was 18 years old, tried using a bait caster got a lot of backlash no problem with the spinner.Thanks for your video.
You're welcome! Hope it was helpful!
I have the Fuego 4000 LT on a 8’ feet Diawa Tean Surf rod 😅best combo ever , I can cast a 3/4-1 ounce lure like 1-2 hours I don’t feel tired
It is a great reel!
Great videos! Would the Fuego 3000 or BG 2500 be a better light setup for Key West fishing?
The 3000 Feugo was clearly larger than the 2500 on camera.
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It looks like it's foot is a bit longer as well
A 1000 size works perfectly for my inshore fishing needs.
Tbh I felt the same too. I love ultralight fishing. I use 1000 for trout and striper fishing. However I accidentally hooked on to a very large halibut inshore and it spooled me. So I just bought a 3000 shimano twin power xd. 30 lb of heat sealed drag
You are a brave one. I also fish a 1000 - 1500 size. I also keep extra drag disks on hand. The big ones school or spool you. 8 or 10 pound braid 20 - 40 leader.
@@davidleekalbjr.3035 I use 8# copolymer line and haven't had an issue yet.
@@mattnguyen1672 Never been spooled but I suppose I'd call it one that got away, re-spool and get back at 'em.
@@bucmcmaster yeah but then you leave line and hook on the fish and in the water. For inshore sw atleast
This is a subject that I find many people don't realize. Sometimes you will see this with different products from the same manufacturer. Many times you will see a spinning reel product line and then a "saltwater" spinning reel line. One manufacturer has a 3000/3500 serious reel and but it's the same line capacity as 5000/5500 series in another product line.
Thats true, there is no "standard" for reel spool diameter. it can be quite confusing.
Thanks for leaving a nice comment!
I'd great comparing the bgmq to the regular bg the same way. It seems that a lot of ppl online ask that same question. Great video l
Great video glad you posted keep them coming thanks
I had no idea. I though size were kinda different between brands. I ordered a Okuma Ceymar OTD 1000. It arrived and it's about the size of a 500. I still really like it. My Diawa Legalis 3000 is much smaller than a 3000 Kastking I have. Don't laugh my Kastking is a beast. 😂 It replaced a new Lews Smash whild practically exploded first fish. The Lews American Hero lasted about one year. That's another topic though and not a good one. 😂
this is very informative man id love to own a daiwa nexttime saving up to buy one !
Here in Florida 4000 is considered as a universal size meaning good for anything heck even hooked up a 50lb cobia with it on land got it in. 3000 or lower is good for light jigs, light lure or light biting fish like sheepshead etc, but Shimano all day for me.
Thanks for sharing!
I have a Ashino local size 4000 from Thailand is pick it up for 10$ It like medium size Reel for children light weight and I put it on my daiwa liberty club short power a absolute nice combo for35$
Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for this review on the reels. It's much easier to listen to your review than to go thru all the data on line. And you point out details that one would not think of.
Thank you for watching!
Whats the best Daiwa spinning reels for 10kg fish? Newbie here.
Daiwa 2500 or 3000 size are ideal for inshore
i own a daiwa BG 3000 and daiwa BG 3500. you would think you wouldn't hardly be able to tell them apart. their completly two different animals. i have my 3000 on a lite 7ft rod that i use for fluke off the beach and the 3500 is right at home on a 9 ft surf rod for blues and bass. the 3500 is five ounces heavier than the 3000.
Yepp! The BG series is definitely geared towards Big Game primarily.
What size line did you go with for your 3000? How much did it hold?
@@wbf91 I went with twenty lb braid. 150 yds
@@rontruocchio5744 thats all it held? Or did you do that plus backing?
About 40 years ago, the AFTMA [precourser to ASA] managed to get the reel manufacturers together, and agree on a standardized sizing system. it held together for about 5 years, and then things started to deviate substantially.
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All the inshore can be done w 1500-3500 type reels. 10-20 braid leader w 3-4’ 12-17 lb mono red fish to flounder to spec t
Thanks!
Always learning new cool stuff with salt strong keep it up thx you
Awesomely explained ✨🔥
Thanks for checking it out!
Saltist mq 4k. Stradic FL 5k. My favorites in my arsenal
Correct and agreed. But they are a much higher caliber reel.
Great video ! What is the better reel the Fuego or the. BG in your opinion? Aluminum verses composite?
I could. Not open your link to your store To look at your reels
Thanks, george
Also leg height to angle that which the line comes off to your 1st eye including the distance from spool to eye size for casting comes into the equation. I’m fussy git & have to try to pair up just right for casting. I’ve purchased excellent rods just because of the blanks then had eyes changed to match curve load/cast profile for a specific reel match.
Thanks for the comment!
Thing i noticed dawia reels are light compared to most which i like
I wish u talk about max drag aswell major factor on reel sizes
So can you put bigger line in the 4000 ?
The Fuego is for artificials, the BG is for bottom fishing...
This seems like you're splitting hairs too finely...
You're never going to sit there and curse your reel out when you lose a fish, and say to yourself "I would've had that fish if it weren't for this undersized reel!"
No, you lose a fish because a knot slips or the line breaks... i say, get a reel you like, cuz the differences between the reels are so minor, that someone who doesn't fish for 15hrs a day isn't going to notice.
Or you're fishing for a 50-100# Wahoo or maybe a big Dolphin and a 600# Marlin decides to hit. Smoked that reel, Penn Senator 113H. Dolphin tournament out of Marathon with the typical 25# rigs and a 350# Marlin gloms onto a schoolie that you've just hooked up, actually released that one after 1.75 hrs.
The real reason is that most people don't set their drags properly. I back off all of the drags when I get home and reset them to 30% of line weight before going out the next time. SET IT AND NEVER TOUCH IT! I've lost tens of thousands of dollars from anglers playing with the drags.
@@steveteetor4301 I understand what you're saying, and hear you. But those are special circumstances and not necessarily the fault of the reel, it's more of not having the right weight of line for that accidental hook up.
Personally, aside from one nurse shark, I've never caught anything bigger than my hand, so I've not the best experience to know all the differences between the reels and their impact on fishing.
I will be fishing the Yukon River in Alaska This summer for Pike in the range of 44-53 inches. The guide requires 65lb braid. Is a 4000 series a good choice for this?
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At the end of this presentation, you forgot to answer the opening question as to which of these reels would be more suitable for catching a sea trout or any other species. I guess all these numerous model/capacity/weight/size differences are part of a sales strategy.
So could you tell me What is Daiwa 20Fuego LT 5000-c using 2020 using for casting or jigging ? Thanks
i feel larger diameter spools cast further than small spools thats why i'll get a size bigger. i don't necessarily care about a spools capability to carry 300 yds of 20 or something like that. for me 150 yds is fine. braid is expensive and i'm not loading up a spool with 20 dollars worth of line thats gonna be buried for two seasons then thrown out. old mono to fill the spool a third of the way up than my braid up to the top works just fine.
We've actually done some tests on this! Check it out: www.saltstrong.com/articles/3000-1000-spinning-reel-casting-distance/
So, what is the body size difference between the Diawa Ballistic 3000 MQ LT and the 4000 size....or are they the same body size........want to pair it with a ODM DNA 8'0 for light surf fishing in the Fall.............thanks.
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I got a Daiwa BG 4500.Twin anti reverse. Same reel size of Shimano 6000 !
Very nice!
Im really torn. I have an 8'6 rod rated for 3/8-2oz and was originally running a 3000 okuma on it (runs same sizing as the fuego, and got a 3000 bg to go on in it instead as I thought the reel seemed small for the rod. I have time to be able to swap to a 2500bg if I wanted too. Do you guys think the 3000bg is just too big or about right for that rod? Im beyond torn here.
I notice on the Penn Pursuit reels the 3000 is only an ounce or so less than the 4000. Given that I'd take the 4000 but the 3000 could also do 90 percent of my other fishing.
Have a 4000 Phlueger President and 5000 Shimano Miravel. Use them for catfish, and both are wonderful. Phlueger costs way less.
Thanks for sharing!
how come i got fuego in pink box? and no crew in knob handle,is riveted damn it
I’m doing inshore jetski fishing what reel size you recommend
Depends on the rod you're going to match it up with. For inshore fishing, 2500 or 3000 reels are great choices.
I realize you guys are shills for Daiwa, but if you’re going to have a video titled “truth about reel sizes”, you really should include other brands as well. It would be nice to see how these reels measure up to Penns, Shimanos, etc. and no mention of line capacity is a huge omission for this type of video. Normally I like a lot of your stuff but this one isn’t your best work
They’re just trying to reduce inventory. Someone in the shop ordered way to many Daiwa reels.
Don't be a clown you sound like an angry penn/shimano fan boy. Shimano doesn't have very much to offer in the under $200 price range. While Daiwa has the sub $200 range locked down. Penn has durability and some budget reels but they have line lay issues, are BIG, heavy and don't compare to other offerings(refinement) in the same categories especially when targeting smaller fish. Lews sw fishing reels are overrated and overpriced.
The usual reccomended inshore reels(in online forums and on yt) as the budget goes up are:
$30 Shimano Sienna
$75 Daiwa legalis LT
$100 Daiwa Fuego/ Daiwa BG/ Penn Battle
$150 spinfisher (maybe? $150 is kind of a dead zone)
$200+ anything shimano especially Stradics (rest in peace the Ci4+)
@@fuq584 it's a fair point while comparing reel sizes..... While i agree that shimano sub $200 is meh, doesn't mean comparing their reel sizes is worthless
Shimano is smoother.
But Daiwa last longer .
I got new BG and old BG is 40 years old. Two Ryobi Applause and Vertigo is 40 and 35 years old. Much abused. Seldom greese. But never dunk in salt water except 2 hour boat rides with constant sea spray.
Other brands? The only brand is Daiwa.
And here I think 1000 series are the heavyweights of my reel collection... 😎
😂 I recently ordered a Okuma Ceymar OTD 1000 size. It's about the size of a 500. It's a very good reel and I believe it has a 12 lb drag . I wished I got a 2000 though.
Tell me something about the actual size and material of the gears themselves.
We have videos for those! Specific reels are covered on our channel. This is just a basic overview of the different sizes and how they compare between different manufacturers
Depending on the manufacturer the number could also relate to the max line diameter it is specced for. I know almost all my old Silstars use this "rule" the last two digits in the model no (later the only two digits in the model no) was the metric max line diameter. then unless the reel was a long line model it would typically wold about 100m of the thickest specked lkine, except for those old closed face reels, they tend to have really small spools.
Thanks for sharing!
can i use a small reel with 8kg max drag for ultralight? I can't find good enough budget price for a decent UL reel that's affordable at my place, I have this.. look small enough to be UL setup but its 8 pounds max drag.
The supply of the salt strong headquarters or wherever is amazing!
Thanks!
What LB fish is the limit on the 4000 reels??? And what would you use for line & rod setup???
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What do you think about buying a BG 4000 and a separate 3000 spool and using the smaller spool for different applications?
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Not possible
Best daiwa reel to go with daiwa pellet waggler an feeder rods 11ft
Can you do a comparison and review of the BG4500 please ?
Really enjoy these videos. Nice to see comparisons, and reel sizes explained by experienced, and knowledgeable staff. Salt Strong is quality content. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the visual comparison, I'm not a novice or an expert, somewhere in between and this is useful information. I've recently bought a Daiwa Ninja 2500A freshwater reel, pleasantly surprised by the level of quality for the price, I'm considering another Daiwa reel in a larger size eg 3000 or 4000 and doing a bit of homework before buying.
Thanks for checking it out!
Me too
Can you do this type of video maybe on pairing reels on rod length perhaps? Like maybe surf rods? It's a stretch to maybe ask. I struggle with stuff like this and am looking at either a bg 4000, tsunami shield 5000 or a van staal vr200 on a tsunami trophy 2 10ft rod. Target species would be striped bass, bluefish, then if I bring rod to Florida then obviously Jack's, snook, reds all with lures. And with 30lb braid. And currently using a 1st Gen penn battle 6000 with 50lb braid for mostly 1.5oz lures to max 3.5 ounces.
We have a few articles on the website covering rod and reel pairings. You can check some out here: www.saltstrong.com/?s=rod+pairing. And use the search to look for anything else. Feel free to leave a comment on those posts and our team will be able to respond back directly with any input and recommendations.
How strong line can I put on a 4000 series reel
Daiwa LT3000 reels are bigger than LT2500 reels. It's the lt3000-C that is smaller. You need to learn what the letters mean, c means compact i.e. one body size smaller than regular reel. Take a look at the freams, for instance,
comes in LT3000-C and larger LT3000 size.
how can i tell the size of a reel if i can not find such info on the reel of packaging? i have a new mitchell 300-c model and wondering what size reel this is?
Waiting on a 2500 XH Fuego to come back in stock
What's the best buy under 200 dollars?
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Hi guys! Need your help! For a 6 feet 10lbs-20lbs rod...what size reel in daiwa's LT line should I get??Thank you
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Does a larger reel make it easier to reel in a big fish, or is it mostly just extra line capacity?
The bigger reel with a bigger main gear could make it easier to fight a big fish
yes a larger reel makes it easier to fight a fish, i go with 4000.
I tell ya, hook a thirty plus inch fish on a 1000 - 1500 size reel. It will spool or school ya.
@@davidleekalbjr.3035 Proper drag pressure and practices
@@peterkim1695 and longer handle makes leverage a big difference
is the shimano stradic 4000fl a good fit for a st croix avid inshore MH?
Yes, 4000 on shimanos are close to 3000 reels of Daiwa. Balances pretty well.
I wish sizing was more universal lol makes ordering so much harder to do
A rod is a stick to throw the lure / bait out and a reel is just something to hold the line.
Ignore all the manufacturers names and sizes , ignore other people's recommendations and just pick what feels right to you.
There is a lot of nonsense talked in ALL aspects of fishing.
Put the right bait or lure in the right place at the right time and you will catch fish. And that is what you have to work out for yourself and your particular fishing locations and preferences.
hi! Sorry but i can t understand fast english very well, so mq sizing is same of lt sizing, right?
Example: 4000 fuego same size 4000 saltist mq
I thought I was the only one that got confused about reel sizes 😂
What is the difference between cross fire 4000 lt and the 4000 bg?
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I like them reb black reels. I never get new always have to buy used. But. This year ide love set of 6 red black ide like all 6 rods I use for bass to be same color. Not same size or name was few names so I can pick my best. Then when use and find the best I like I'll give away the others to some special kids out here at the lake or river. I've run group 15 years now going for 1 or 2 years left then stop the group. I'll hate that but my health can run it alone anymore but I hope I find few more soon my budget small so it's taken little to find some. Y'all have a god bless.
Megatron 6000 on my bluegill setup
Unless this is your livelihood there are just WAY too many real choices/options for us once or twice a month fishermen. When I bought four reals to go on four different sized poles it felt to me like throwing darts.
Would a 3000 or 4000 fuego be good for live bait/ dock / artificial …. Trying to figure out which best all around reel for a 7ft medium heavy fast rod … as it is my first and only rod for now.
I could only afford 1 reel at the time, so I went with a 4000 BG. Seems like a do it all in my opinion.
Won't balance well on a light/ultralight rod. At 11 oz it would be super imbalanced.
@myxer516 i got a quick question? I found the penn battle 2 7’ at walmart with the 4000 reel for 130 You think that’s good? Or should i go with the penn fierce 3 7’ 5000 from bass pro for 140ish
I do bass fishing(lots of the hooks getting stuck tho) pier fishing every month when the weathers good and surf fishing in the summer do you think that’s a good setup?
@@jasonsoto6163 I have two Fierce 3 in size 8000. I recently had to return one back to Amazon because of a whining noise that developed right quickly. I definitely would go with the Penn Battle or the Diawa BG Big Game.
I use Stradic FL 5000 and it is as big as BG 3000 and is so light. Has lots of drag too with power knob
Ya stradic sizing is a bit small, my 3000 is closer to a 2000 BG
What ever happened to the reverse feature on most spinning reels. I find it VERY useful to adjust the amount of slack line when fishing off a boat in the ocean.
Saltwater leaking in is a big factor. A lot of people don't use that feature anymore
I'd say your over 60 years old since they are the only ppl using that crap still
Okuma salt water series has the reverse.
@@ichista maybe one day you'll have enough skill to take advantage of it
@@kenneth9874 maybe you won't be 5 months late next time old man and if you need it that's your lack of skill lol
Can you do this video with Penn reels?
Wait you don't go out with an 8000 to fish for minnows
It is interesting to me that my 3500 Series Penn Spinfisher from the 90's seem about half the size of my 4000 size cheap Daiwa from last year. Is it the brands or did they get bigger with time? The cheap Daiwa is a lot smotther, holds a lot more line, and casts better. But one of my three Daiwas has already been retired because the anti reverse doesn't work. Both Penn's work about as well as they did 25 years ago.
Daiwa changed their numbering system to match shimano, Daiwa 5000 were big, they aren't now.
Got BG 4500 twin anti reverse. If the anti reverse bearing kaput. I got the teeth anti reverse ones as back
up !😁
Always buy BG. Top ten reel in the world !
I just saw a video where someone advised against buying a fuego because of the way it flexes. I wanted to ask questions about the flexing but the video has comments turned off. Do you also see unacceptable amounts of flexing in the fuego 3000?
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The 3000 Fuego will cast slightly farther than the 2500 though.
Because it holds more line
@@Saltstrong No. Slightly larger diameter spool allows farther casts.
No mention of actual line capacity???? How can you make a comparison of reel sizes without including line capacities?
That and weight is all I look at.
And drag capacity
Much of this reel size and weight is marketing hype. Line weight and capacity is the main factors in choosing a reel. The only reason to choose a big reel is heavy line and reel capacity.
New Daiwa BG 4500 have more lines than Shimano 6000. The size almost the same. But BG have 2 anti reverse
4k Saltis mq Compare to 4K BG which has bigger spool ?
Rarely got what I wanted when trying to order from catalogs or online stores over many years. No consistent standards of measurement between companies.
Had you just suggested buying a Shimano Stradic FL in 3000 size you wouldn't have had to explain all of this.
That's like buying a Pontiac G6 instead of an F250... Shimano's products and customer service has gone WAY downhill over the last year. Ironically, this was also the first year in forever that Shimano didn't win a single award in the reel categories at ICAST. But if you love Pontiacs, then Shimano is the way to go.
@@Saltstrong haha ....because you're not a diawa fan boy. I have far to many reels of all brands, including diawa. I was just joking around and have no experience with shimanos customer service in recent times. However the 3000 size stradic model fl just so happens to be on my favorite rod, maybe it's not reel and just the rod that makes the whole combination feel good?
If you're going to compare shimano reels to a Pontiac G6 then diawa wouldn't be an F250....maybe more like a prius
@@Saltstrong I wouldn’t buy any American crap car.
@@Saltstrong they also didn't roll out with any new spinning reels, so not really a valid statement...
@@Tallnerdyguy New Nasci, New Sustain, New Spheros SW (in larger sizes) 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ and yet I didn't see an Awards...
Was planning on getting Fuego 1000 with 0.10 braid for perch, ans 3000 with 0.20 for pike. It's kind of proper braids and reel sizes for applications right?
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What does a SP 30 reel size mean for an Ugly Stik Tuff reel?
All reels are different and have different sizing. It might compare to a 2500 or 3000