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  • Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
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    UGLIES (2024):
    A world in which a compulsory operation wipes out physical differences and makes everyone pretty.
    DIRECTOR: McG
    WRITERS: Jacob Forman, Vanessa Taylor, Whit Anderson
    STARRING: Joey King, Brianne Tju, Keith Powers, Laverne Cox, Chase Stokes
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Комментарии • 158

  • @LetMeExplain
    @LetMeExplain  7 дней назад +15

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  • @lucassuarez9472
    @lucassuarez9472 7 дней назад +538

    "netflix just made this for 30 year olds to complain about it online" Spot on.

    • @chrissycupcakes2448
      @chrissycupcakes2448 7 дней назад +21

      I read the books multiple times when I was 11. I'm not watching the movie. They aren't getting this 30 year old.

    • @ren21uu
      @ren21uu 6 дней назад

      I do t know if I get it

    • @williame6455
      @williame6455 6 дней назад

      Oh my 😂😂😂

    • @redflame300
      @redflame300 2 дня назад

      Never heard of it. Wish I never found out it existed

  • @josephmayfield945
    @josephmayfield945 6 дней назад +241

    It feels like that girl has been acting in YA movies for like thirty years.

    • @staticlux
      @staticlux 5 дней назад +9

      joey king makes me so irrationally angry 😅

    • @PinAda92
      @PinAda92 2 дня назад

      She is good so why not. Not the best actress yes, but still acts decent

    • @cherie..cherry
      @cherie..cherry 19 часов назад +1

      @@staticluxit’s the characters she plays. She’s been typecast as the annoying, sometimes selfish, but otherwise insufferable side/main character. Literally been the same character since ramona and beezus

    • @awesumtoast97
      @awesumtoast97 18 часов назад

      ​@cherie..cherry well she did it herself with buying the IP lol

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 6 дней назад +298

    They should have simply made it animated instead, since the Pretties could easily be conveyed, without the need for a golden filter.

    • @zangoon4546
      @zangoon4546 6 дней назад +50

      An animated version would have genuinely been interesting, you won’t even have to worry about casting actors with a certain “look”.

    • @michaeldiego3822
      @michaeldiego3822 5 дней назад +3

      I agree. I actually really liked the books, so sad the movies turned out this way

    • @jillianmilliard1880
      @jillianmilliard1880 16 часов назад

      Glad that this is the discourse, was trying to explain to my boyfriend when we were watching like “I SWEAR it wasn’t this corny in the books the pretties are supposed to be literally terrifying I’m so so serious” like the fact that they just look like normal humans of today defeated the purpose SO MUCH imo 😭

  • @yarianbalaguer8288
    @yarianbalaguer8288 6 дней назад +120

    So netflix wasted money making this brain rot film, that ppl are going to hate, instead of using those funds to continue the really good shows they cancel after 1 season?

    • @rami4816
      @rami4816 6 дней назад +6

      Basically 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @somesomesomesomereason5055
      @somesomesomesomereason5055 6 дней назад +2

      Sounds about right

    • @impruvise
      @impruvise 5 дней назад +8

      “The Society” is crying in the grave rn

    • @topbossful
      @topbossful 4 дня назад +1

      @@impruvise yo that’s so true

    • @impruvise
      @impruvise 3 дня назад +1

      @@topbossful show was a banger bro I’m glad Kathryn Newton is gettin some solid roles tho. She deserves it fs. But I’ll never forgive Netflix for canceling and leaving us with that cliffhanger😭

  • @MzkeRiiBabY
    @MzkeRiiBabY 7 дней назад +214

    Uglies the movie of good looking people putting on a filter and entering their influencer era....

    • @redflame300
      @redflame300 2 дня назад

      Had to be done? 🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @jasminmenzies9759
      @jasminmenzies9759 День назад

      If they had the money, this movie would have been way better.

  • @Law1107
    @Law1107 6 дней назад +130

    The director explained why he cast conventionally attractive people, stating that even pretty people still get work done because it’s never enough. It makes sense to me, however I feel like if you have to explain why in an interview because literally everyone is confused maybe it’s not the move. I for one, would really love to see a teen movie or show like this with average looking people. Now that would be a novel idea!

    • @SPQRKlio
      @SPQRKlio 6 дней назад +13

      He could have cast "pretty" people alongside some very average ordinary-looking people and let the audience see the point. But heaven forbid you cast someone like that, in anything produced in the US. Bleh, I have emotions about this.

    • @aaliyahbeeby
      @aaliyahbeeby 6 дней назад

      People that generalize that acute leads me to believe that is how they feel deep down inside, or assume about the average person because their “average” person is still a minor population that does not connect/relate/understand the thought process of normal people.

    • @fizruk7644
      @fizruk7644 6 дней назад

      That's a bs explanation. How did it make sense to you? The movie that supposedly criticizes current beauty standards casts pretty people as uglies. Lol this definitely helped insecure teenagers.
      The reason is this is Hollywood and they would rather die that have ugly teenage characters

    • @PapFranky
      @PapFranky 5 дней назад +1

      The main is not conventionally pretty, to me she is weird kind of pretty… just saying

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 5 дней назад +1

      It is a tradition in Hollywood where they don't want ugly people as leads. They did it before in Ready Player One.
      Hollywood hass the exact same mentality as the villains in the movie.

  • @steve_santiago
    @steve_santiago 6 дней назад +79

    “Don’t forget to like and subscribe if you’re not ugly” 🤣

  • @thefilipinonerd
    @thefilipinonerd 6 дней назад +40

    everyone keeps saying this would look better animated but i think they could've pulled this off better if they actually used prosthetics and better makeup on the "pretties". higher cheekbones, more symmetrical faces, etc.

    • @SPQRKlio
      @SPQRKlio 6 дней назад +6

      I keep thinking about a ye olde Twilight Zone episode on the same theme, where there were only a limited number of body and face types considered pretty, so the visual distinction between "ugly" and what was considered acceptable was nice and clear. Good story, wrapped up in under 30 minutes, plus bonus disturbingly intriguing chain-smoking narrator.

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool 6 дней назад +43

    It's basically the hunger games or divergent series since teens seem to love this type of teenager thing of not solving the true problem and sequel baiting

    • @Dreamlillie_95
      @Dreamlillie_95 6 дней назад +5

      ... yet this novel series came out before either of those

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 6 дней назад +4

      @@Dreamlillie_95 and yet it was still the same thing after 10 years when it got adapted. Doesn't detract from my point

    • @cdmp777
      @cdmp777 4 дня назад

      The book series predates the hunger game series/franchise. It’s basically the inspiration for all the dystopian teen movies. This is how bad the adaptation for the show is, they should’ve let people know it was based on a book series and done a way better job with the way they put it all together.

    • @thejaded
      @thejaded 22 часа назад +1

      ​@@Dreamlillie_95 Haha well this story sucks and those don't

  • @Ebizzill
    @Ebizzill 6 дней назад +25

    it's sad because they have been trying to get this trilogy as a live action for YEARS... and unfortunately it does look dated. It sucks because when Brave new World came out this should have came out then. I absolutely love the book series.

  • @HorseJoint
    @HorseJoint 6 дней назад +15

    It’s official. “Joey King” either needs to FIRE her agent OR Star in an “A24” movie. Shit. That’s what “The Rock” is doing. But Disney still loves him, so he’ll always be good🙄

    • @rachreid8746
      @rachreid8746 6 дней назад +2

      She has the same agent that Dakota Fanning had. You know the one that told her to do Madame Webb.

    • @HorseJoint
      @HorseJoint 4 дня назад

      @@rachreid8746 Oooooh. See. Now it all make’s sense😂🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @ziggystatdust6008
      @ziggystatdust6008 4 дня назад +2

      There is also a rumour that the reason she keeps starring in these awful Netflix movies is because she has a relative who is a higher-up position at Netflix. Plus, she’s also a producer on the movie

  • @mileslaw
    @mileslaw 7 дней назад +113

    Casting good looking actors as "uglies" is instantly a dumb idea.

    • @alexforce9
      @alexforce9 6 дней назад +19

      Thats coz people only preach about how "beauty standards" are bad, but dont actually want to be ugly. So you cant sell a movie based on YA novel by hiring legit hideous actors - coz the viewers would not want to watch it lol.

    • @brq99
      @brq99 6 дней назад

      the lead is uglie inside! so i guess that tracks

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 5 дней назад

      ​@alexforce9 they should try it. But they are the pretties

    • @kenm.a.d.7196
      @kenm.a.d.7196 5 дней назад +1

      That’s the point of the book. They’re not actually ugly

    • @TheAMVDorf
      @TheAMVDorf 5 часов назад

      @@alexforce9yeah, it’s something that on some level, is just straight up built in to humans, regardless of society, that those we perceive as “better looking” will always be viewed better than those who aren’t, if the current beauty standards didn’t exist, something else would just take its place, because there’ll always be a general consensus on what’s “beautiful”, which is not something that I’ve ever seen conveyed in any story about beauty standards, it’s always “the system” which is part of it, but it’s also sort of innately built into us, the issue is self-esteem not the standards

  • @stonytrees8573
    @stonytrees8573 6 дней назад +9

    Let me explain is more entertaining then some movies he talks about

  • @thedrunkenelf
    @thedrunkenelf 6 дней назад +7

    I watched this from my Netflix homepage. I had no idea about it, haven’t read the books, don’t know what it was. Can I just say I was SO CONFUSED the whole time by the world, and the time. I thought maybe it had been a couple of days but then why was she so into the smoke, she just got there? And I was wondering where her parents were etc. it was extremely simple for a movie lacking so much detail.

  • @zulu_sensei47
    @zulu_sensei47 6 дней назад +8

    Wait, so she did all of that, just to end up a "Pretty" anyway?

  • @sincerely5906
    @sincerely5906 4 дня назад +3

    Not me looking at Peris thinking he was already gorgeous 😂

  • @me0on0utube
    @me0on0utube 6 дней назад +8

    This movie looks like what privileged ppl think discrimination is

  • @jonathanroberts9905
    @jonathanroberts9905 6 дней назад +5

    I watched half way through of that movie & realised I was getting dumber... Switched that shit off immediately 💯🤦🏻

  • @JohnGalt916
    @JohnGalt916 6 дней назад +6

    How is joey king employed? Without saying Gypsy Rose can you name a movie she was good in 😂

  • @Visforelvenshireling
    @Visforelvenshireling 6 дней назад +3

    This saddens me because those books are quality, while this film seems like... a bad summary that missed the soul of the story. Sigh.... Read the books guys! Thanks for the LME!

  • @toxicear5274
    @toxicear5274 7 дней назад +5

    I remember reading this book back in middle school. It was pretty bad

  • @maurreese
    @maurreese 3 дня назад +1

    My parter and I watched it and he enjoyed it. I thought it was a choice 😅 But the woman who plays the villain ATE!!!

  • @camerondavidson3765
    @camerondavidson3765 6 дней назад +1

    My review of the movie is it's divergent but if you choose to be pretty you get free surgery.
    if you choose to be ugly you get a hoover board.

  • @Law1107
    @Law1107 6 дней назад +1

    It sucks more when there are nuggets of a cool premise that are biffed so hard.

  • @sashacortes7155
    @sashacortes7155 6 дней назад +3

    they literally used the tiktok glam filter

  • @tarrancegreen4324
    @tarrancegreen4324 6 дней назад +2

    Do Gangs of London that would be dope

  • @kjroberson6832
    @kjroberson6832 6 дней назад +9

    idk this whole movie jus feels ironic , n the fact the big bad is a trans woman is jus too funny

  • @trent_king
    @trent_king 6 дней назад +2

    I know nothing of this movie but the trans shade on this review was A fckn 1! 😂😂😂😂 👏🏿

  • @fizruk7644
    @fizruk7644 6 дней назад +3

    No video on yt so far could explain enough how stupid this movie was. It's like every second of it was unbelievably cringe 😫

  • @J0rd4n328
    @J0rd4n328 5 дней назад +1

    Thank you for your sacrifice. I was never going to watch this anyway

  • @mikeroni
    @mikeroni 4 дня назад +1

    Is it the movie that’s bad or the source material? Never read the books but doesn’t seem like they’d be much different

  • @ketichini2
    @ketichini2 4 дня назад +1

    Not enough spag bol

  • @betharnold8939
    @betharnold8939 6 дней назад

    Id love to see you cover The Substance

  • @Jrsdigest
    @Jrsdigest 4 дня назад +1

    0:40 you didn't have to call us out like that 😭🤧

  • @axelsaurs_hellscape
    @axelsaurs_hellscape 3 дня назад

    I rather liked it, but only for coincidence’s sake. I had reread the uglies series maybe a few days prior without knowledge of this movie coming out. I loved it because it was a new take on the established world that I couldn’t visualize in my head. Plus, I enjoyed the music, however clearly catered it was to preteens looking for an edgy, fantastical story.

  • @raybibisi2832
    @raybibisi2832 6 дней назад

    Have you’ve seen Long Gone Hero’s, and will you do a LME on that?

  • @LeeoJohnsonTV
    @LeeoJohnsonTV 6 дней назад +1

    Never. Let. Go.

  • @NHSTmoney
    @NHSTmoney 5 дней назад

    are you going to do blink twice?

  • @LoLo25A
    @LoLo25A 6 дней назад +3

    Divergent but were ugly

  • @ohhjordann
    @ohhjordann 7 дней назад +1

    Hey let me explainnnn

  • @brooklynm.1449
    @brooklynm.1449 6 дней назад

    Please do a video on Blink Twice!

  • @LoudAngryJerk
    @LoudAngryJerk 6 дней назад +3

    I mean it looked pretty shallow and dumb. Do we need an explanation why?
    edit, after watching: nope. We didn't. Anyone with at least half a brain understood why this looked both shallow and dumb from the concept of the trailer.

  • @TheOperator141
    @TheOperator141 3 дня назад

    wouldnt you trade world peace to be a bit stupid but happy? shit makes sense to me. Its not like they're making them braindead, they're just taking away the stupid drama we cause everyday. doesn't seem bad to me.

  • @rofalmatt
    @rofalmatt 6 дней назад +2

    Such a stupid idea for a film XD

  • @rami4816
    @rami4816 6 дней назад +1

    If this movie aint blatant propaganda, i dunno what is

  • @justinwilliam4644
    @justinwilliam4644 6 дней назад

    Joey King is not ugly, she ❤ in bullet train

  • @TaylorPayne-l8i
    @TaylorPayne-l8i 6 дней назад

    Gretchen Fall

  • @tan8813
    @tan8813 5 дней назад +2

    i lost brain cells watching this

  • @eddy9615
    @eddy9615 7 дней назад +1

    Ok

  • @KeepCalmandDelight
    @KeepCalmandDelight 6 дней назад

    “Keep him on the outer banks” 😂 I see what you did there lol.
    I am now 30. I read the first 3 books in middle school & loved it. However, this adaptation fails to capture character & world development; therefore, it just seems like a shallow story when watching this. Add in the bad CGI, it just flops. Thank you for making this funny LME video though!

  • @bochabicha
    @bochabicha 6 дней назад +1

    man, i couldn't even watch this review completely. going away halfways, how shitty this series must be 😂

  • @rvdiosilence35
    @rvdiosilence35 6 дней назад

    I will give you the fact the score was lowkey trash but I think that’s the only thing that made it bad it was actually pretty good as I thought back to it

  • @johnsuarilla141
    @johnsuarilla141 4 дня назад

    And they cancelled I am not Ok with this

  • @LawrenceAdams13
    @LawrenceAdams13 6 дней назад +1

    This concept sounds so dumb

  • @Mr.LegendDude
    @Mr.LegendDude 6 дней назад

    The Ugly Cinematic Universe has begun!

  • @npcimknot958
    @npcimknot958 6 дней назад

    I miss mazerunner

  • @dreadedvoices
    @dreadedvoices 6 дней назад

    most movies are dumb in 2024 its time for us to accept it lol

  • @SharonGuenison-o4r
    @SharonGuenison-o4r 6 дней назад

    Fahey Pines

  • @umvemnyama
    @umvemnyama 6 дней назад

    Saved me from wasting my time

  • @lucaspotasio5483
    @lucaspotasio5483 5 дней назад

    My boy, the movie really is dumb, but you didn't really explain anything, you just made a summary of the film.

    • @LetMeExplain
      @LetMeExplain  5 дней назад +4

      @@lucaspotasio5483 it is literally explaining my thoughts on the movie. Not sure what you’re policing

    • @lucaspotasio5483
      @lucaspotasio5483 5 дней назад

      ​@@LetMeExplainbut that's the thing, you didn't really said your thoughts on the movie, you just said what happened in your own words. You didn't say why you thought the plot didn't hit right here or there, or why the concept of the movie wasn't being explored in the way you thought it should have, or pointed out inconsistencies in the way the characters behaved, or anything like that. That would've been explaining your thoughts on the movie. You really just said: "Well, in the movie this happens, and then this, and this, and this..." And that's fine, but it's not really an explanation.

    • @LetMeExplain
      @LetMeExplain  5 дней назад +9

      Lmao yes it did
      No way you’re asking for an explainer of an explainer

    • @lucaspotasio5483
      @lucaspotasio5483 2 дня назад

      @@LetMeExplain bro, I can't draw it so you can understand it. I watched your video multiple times already to make sure I wasn't crazy, and you indeed are just "this happens, and then that happened". I'm giving you legit feedback, and your answer is just "Nuh uh". Not even in the comments you can explain yourself 😭

    • @LetMeExplain
      @LetMeExplain  2 дня назад +1

      @@lucaspotasio5483 Now you’re being foolish but I’ll dog walk your points.
      Every plot detail is followed by a line/edit critiquing it and the inconsistencies: from the smoke to how characters forgive/forget each other.
      No need to transcribe the video. You clearly know I think the movie’s dumb since you listened. The casting, score and concept are brought up with a genre breakdown on this topic at 8:00 on what did it better.
      There is not a missing point that can’t be timestamped, you just straight lied about things missing.
      You’re the type that wants to correct but can’t take correction when you’re wrong, my boy.

  • @leonardesnymanasa9172
    @leonardesnymanasa9172 5 дней назад

    Moore Joseph Moore Charles Robinson Gary

  • @ij9375
    @ij9375 7 дней назад

    Never been this early 😅

  • @HaniFlores88
    @HaniFlores88 6 дней назад

    i guess im the only one that liked the movie😅

  • @wealiveandliving
    @wealiveandliving 3 дня назад

    That movie was weak, boring and so inconsistent! Like where did they get the chopper from at the ending? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 movie was Ugly!!!!!!!

  • @dariang4725
    @dariang4725 6 дней назад

    oof when a straight dude unironically says "Yassified"

    • @LetMeExplain
      @LetMeExplain  6 дней назад +5

      It was definitely more ironic than typing “oof”

  • @serenasomerset
    @serenasomerset 6 дней назад +5

    Why is the “hottest woman” a literal giant black man lmaoooo

    • @averyhennessey7104
      @averyhennessey7104 6 дней назад +5

      What an ugly thing to say

    • @Playaaa0
      @Playaaa0 6 дней назад +4

      @@averyhennessey7104an accurate thing to say

    • @secondkira6066
      @secondkira6066 6 дней назад +2

      My first thought of that character too, but I think it unintentionally fits the gaslighting of that society.

  • @18Aleziita
    @18Aleziita 6 дней назад

    3:56 HAHAHAHA 😂

  • @Jrsdigest
    @Jrsdigest 4 дня назад

    7:32😂😂😂

  • @dretowers5977
    @dretowers5977 6 дней назад +2

    Have a “trans” thing “transitioning” kids😒 yea very subtle netflix smh what world are we living in frfr…

  • @Anthonycheesman33
    @Anthonycheesman33 7 дней назад +35

    This movie should have been called not another YA movie. Mcg is trolling .

  • @SPQRKlio
    @SPQRKlio 6 дней назад +9

    Oooh, name drop, name drop! I've known the author since his pre-Uglies days, and I loved the first book in this series when I read it a, um, generation ago, argh. I never imagined the kids designated as "uglies" as being so danged conventionally pretty. More like "ordinary" and with some assorted asymmetry, to be converted into Korean-movie-star perfection--but not starting out as such tv-ready-purty types. So much for the casting. Anyway, this was another excellent LME. I chortled, I snickered, I alas still feel obligated to watch the movie.

  • @kiwikiwi5671
    @kiwikiwi5671 7 дней назад +15

    for what it was it was pretty good. i was obsessed with the books growing up and i’ve literally been waiting years for the movies to come.

  • @WAProdthejohman
    @WAProdthejohman 6 дней назад +4

    For every "Rebel Ridge" there's 15 "The Uglies" 🙈 and then Netflix wonders why their numbers don't add up

  • @beforethenextstep305
    @beforethenextstep305 5 дней назад +3

    This is the exact plot of twilight zone episode called- number 12 looks like you.

  • @pv3935
    @pv3935 6 дней назад +2

    This movie was basically them just not wearing make up for a few parts.

  • @lustbubo4638
    @lustbubo4638 День назад +1

    0:22 man this is LITERALLY a Twilight Zone episode where a girl turns whatever age and has to pick a "beautiful" body but she resist 😂

  • @breej1643
    @breej1643 3 дня назад +1

    How did casting even go for this film? - Casting Director: "Oh yeah, yeah. S/He's "ugly" enough."
    -- And why did the surgery only work on her face? It doesn't rid ALL scars?

  • @valkyrie2307
    @valkyrie2307 День назад +1

    Im glad we are least done pretending Joey King is attractive. Maybe Julia Roberts will star in the second film.

  • @mkm6783
    @mkm6783 6 дней назад +3

    It’s so good to see new videos being uploaded. I’ve been having serious withdrawals 😂

  • @COSun25
    @COSun25 6 дней назад +2

    Knowing that this series of 4 books has a spinoff makes my head hurt.

  • @keiththorpe9571
    @keiththorpe9571 6 дней назад +1

    This looks like one of the most insipid, tedious, mud puddle-shallow offerings from Netflix they've ever churned out.

  • @graffic13
    @graffic13 6 дней назад +1

    Terrible.

  • @nanayaaachiaaacheampong2076
    @nanayaaachiaaacheampong2076 7 дней назад +1

    I really like your videos. 😊

  • @user-qj9en1kp1m
    @user-qj9en1kp1m День назад

    You know, 10-15 years ago this could have been a cautionary tale about consumption and overconsuption of beauty products, how the beauty industry distorted our self-image, about pretty privilege, etc. Today though this movie is like that parent who admonishes their kid for smoking, while holding a cigarette in their hand. It feels a bit hollow.

  • @WeaselMon97
    @WeaselMon97 2 дня назад

    @Let Me Explain could you make some new format in which you show some kind of tierlist of Films you have seen this year which you've found great to watch and recommend to people. (Which exclude the mainstream films like marvel mcu, and other "BIG Filmprojects" like dune 2 and avatar 2 etc.)

  • @gamer-cn5ho
    @gamer-cn5ho 2 дня назад

    I honestly don't know why ppl hate the movie??? I legitimately thought it was a good movie with a nice plot

  • @jancintron
    @jancintron 3 дня назад

    Any movie this actress is in is usually pretty corny and for Little girls

  • @Overwhelminglyanxious
    @Overwhelminglyanxious День назад

    She kind of looks like Khloé Kardashian at the end. Can’t tell if that’s a good thing or bad thing. 🙃

  • @nefreston8503
    @nefreston8503 20 часов назад

    It's so bad you don't even need to explain.

  • @crazychips123
    @crazychips123 5 дней назад

    Who keeps hiring Joey king, she’s awful

  • @mettiesteiner8038
    @mettiesteiner8038 2 дня назад

    I loved the movie.

  • @KawaiiNancy
    @KawaiiNancy 6 дней назад

    💜💜💜

  • @spr6986
    @spr6986 6 дней назад

    I watched 10 minutes of it and turn it off but I might go back and watch it again

  • @roshkp
    @roshkp 4 дня назад

    read these books growing up in middle school, and randomly decided to give them a re-read earlier this summer! The movie was definitely lacking things in the book I imagined differently, but still a fun nostalic watch!

  • @Dreamlillie_95
    @Dreamlillie_95 6 дней назад

    It was supposed to be a tv series. But they kept putting it on tbe backburner. I pretty much don't listen to reviews like this because CLEARLY he hasn't read the books. Find reviews of the movie who know the books well and compare what's different and what was kept, what was changed