0:24 Fat Joe dissing me for making the video 2 hours long. This is the censored version of the original beef analysis which got age restricted by RUclips (link: ruclips.net/video/f8-HjLZTwKU/видео.html). Beef Analysis Playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLNxrdTjgEbxzMdBF-NQwbs-GyZf8x2OIX Hip-Hop Universe Discord Server: discord.gg/hiphopuniverseofficial
I met fat Joe once at a bowling alley in NJ , I was a kid maybe 8-9 so early 2000’s. When he walked in he ordered everyone chicken tenders that was there prior to all his people coming in. Later on My little sister didn’t like the smoking they were doing so he got us a lane all the way on the end and said he’d cover anything we wanted to eat & all the rounds we played. my dad ordered MADDD STUFF 😂 we was eating bowling alley food for like 5 days 😂
@@jherfav4326 that’s a fact! the only other 3 celebrities I’ve met that I mention is latifa, treach and shaq. Latifah bought me and my friends sneakers once just because we was the only kids in the store at the time. Me and treach from the same area so growing up he’d always stop by and show illtown love. & shaq sent me to summer camp lol my mom was on a free trial run for the boys and girls club in Newark and bro just randomly showed up. He was asking us what we wanted to be when we got older and I said an astronaut but I wanted to start as a pilot and aeronaut first. while everyone else was saying the generic answers. So he approached my mom and gave them a number to call & the rest was history.
This is the best breakdown video I've seen of the Terror Squad & Roc-A-Fella beef. Very well explained and edited. So many subliminals that flew over my head. I can watch this multiple times.
@@KD_SWAGGER Haha I just watched that one yesterday and watched this today. I'll go look for your comment haha all jokes bro but you really do watch a lot of the same videos. Props to you.
@@Man_eee 😆 I checked your channel so that's how I knew you commented there. All good and likewise! Our type of hip hop keeps me from not going insane.
@@KD_SWAGGER Yea man I mean it takes a lot of time to watch all these videos But its worth it if it benefits you in a positive way. Plus if Hip Hop is a big part of our lives we gonna continue watching bc that's what we grew up too. Hip Hop is Life!
I wish Pun wouldve realized before he died that music awards are just for the business end of the industry, not to show who is really the best in that category. He did so well in the music business as a whole. Most artists cant even make a profit with their music and he was getting the bag every album drop as well as live shows. RIP Pun.
Yeah in hindsight that would be a great thing to put in perspective. However, these awards not only validated artists amongst certain music people outside of the hip-hop community, but clearly open doors for business opportunities as well. If what this video claims was all the way accurate then I can see why Pun felt slighted.
Lmfao! If you believe any of this crap..then your a bigger fool then I though…it’s all made up by there Masonic masters..There daddy is Satan and there souls are gone
I was working at BMG when Jay-Z's cd Reasonable Doubt came in. I had the CD months before it dropped. I remember playing it in the car and mad people was asking who he was. CD's a classic.
Peace fam. Your videos are excellently done!!! The amount of detail and in-depth lyrical analysis is much appreciated. Well researched and well documented information and u cover all sides of these stories. This is the 2nd video that I’ve watched from you but you’ve got a fan and a supporter in me. Salute
@@isaacocasio3165ounds like he’s trolling bro. If you did know him I’d just keep any comments about him to yourself. It’ll just attract these clowns on here to come out from their mom’s basement.
You are misinterpreting Pun’s line from It’s So Hard - he isn’t saying he isn’t the best lyricist alive and deferring to Jay Z. It’s a tribute to the talent coming behind him from Terror Squad. He says it directly after.
Fam the detail this man puts in these are incredible.....i know its a lot of work but i can really watch these jawns over and over. I appreciate you fam
This beef is the definition of someone living in your head rent free lol. Terror Squad was fighting a dude who didn’t even acknowledge them as an enemy.
Exactly. I was in ny during this time, and I dont remember Jay acknowledging this beef like he did w Nas, or 50. And the crown went from Big To Jay, there was no if ands or butts about that. His discography says it all.
@@roomsmush1398 You sound like an out of towner talking like that. The latin kinds never ran anything in nyc, get your facts straight. Italian mob, and russian mob was the only thing running any kind of business worth noting during that time.
Other people always tell our story like they have street cred??? Like first of all who are you. Than have a title called hip hop University??? Again who are you???
Another great video. The stories behind the songs are fascinating. I never realized how connected so many MCs, DJs and producers are in the industry. Can’t wait for your next video 💯🎤💿📀
This video is another Win for you bro. I swear these breakdowns you doing are tough! Good deep dives for hip hop heads for no knowledge of the stuff behind the curtain.
Thank you for your honesty on your info from rumors. Most RUclipsrs don’t sprinkle a little “Take what I’m about to say with a grain of salt” in their videos. Respect+ you earned a sub
Man if ppl knew Joe he is a Big Big Basketball fan. Had a Team in Rucker that got busy. Jay ended up putting a team in Rucker the same year 2003. Both teams made it to the Championship that year the rest is History. Jay owed Money.
That weight loss program at Duke is interesting. There’s a story of a wrestler from WWF, Yokozuna, who was sent there to lose weight. He was a big dude like Pun, easily pushing 500lbs. The corporate WWF offices would occasionally call to check in with Yoko and he would lie about having lost weight. Eventually his time ended at the program and he was released, possibly cause he wasn’t losing any weight. He actually came out heavier than he did when he went in. I think it was later discovered he was bribing someone affiliated with the program to smuggle in food for him. Unfortunately Yoko died as well sometime around 2000
I remember. The story line in WWF at the time was Yokozuna went to Japan to sumo wrestle. He was at Duke trying to lose wait and gain stamina. RIP Pun and Yokozuna
we all have options even if you think you don’t have options you have options. you could choose to be alone and work on yourself or you can choose to settle with that person.
From the outside looking in it definitely sounds like it. Even if it wasn’t aimed at anyone when you release a song with those types of lyrics it opens the door for someone to misinterpret it and think you’re talking about them, especially in the rap game where there is alot of chest puffing and being seen as week could tank your career.
Reasonable Doubt was originally supposed to be a concept album. And back when he was with Jaz, those weren't his songs. He was the featured artist so he had to rhyme bout whatever the main artist wanted too. And back then, rappers didn't snitch on themselves like this generation. In the late 80's/ early 90's, east coast rappers where trying to be lyrical not gangster. That didn't happen till 93ish
Pun was not only a top tier rapper/ lyricist. I mean who else other than big l could be considered 1 of the greats without more material out. Also pun was bout that life
My boy met pun back in the day before he got obese and that dude came outside of his own concert and fucked this dude up with a bat for hittin some girl in the line outside
Same thing happened with Lil Kim and Foxxy Brown. Brown spent most of her career dissing Kim and not focusing on the bigger picture. And that’s why Kim was more successful in her music career…This was dope… Good Job 👍🏽
That was so well produced and such a funny story. I was laughing about the Ruckers bball then it just got funnier and funnier... When he said... "It got more serious for Jay not in terms of bars but in terms of ignoring Fat Joe... That was so funny
So nowadays self snitching is 100% cool but in the 90’s we knew better!!!!! All those verses Jay put out before “Reasonable Doubt” Jay was still actually selling drugs in a large scale so of course he wasn’t gonna speak on it until he was out the game!!!!! It’s called smart
Pun was a real G. Mans had the whole queensbridge locked down n thats not even his Borough. Pun had that shit set up on sum saints row type shit. No games being played. wonder how hip hop would be if we still had Pun here with us
@@miked.336 right😂 like wtf he said that like Pun would still be in his prime in 2022😂 If rap is this way with Nas, Snoop, Dr Dre, Wu Tang, Jay Z etc etc being alive. Pun wouldn’t of changed the outcome
@@skrapelotto Pun def wouldve changed the outcome. If he continued to put out music through the 2000s at the same level of capital punishment he'd definitely have some of if not the biggest influence on the rap game, shit would be hella different, more people would def consider him a goat too
@@skrapelotto Uh, Nas and Method man have been dropping bomb tracks for like the past year. (“Smooth Criminal”, “Who Do We Trust”) plus Nas dropped THREE solo albums in the past 2 years, with some of the most fire tracks he’s done in years! Plus Snoop dropped “Big Subwoofer”).
"I'm not a biter I'm a writer for myself and others".................Still D.R.E .........Jigga wrote Dre part and Snoop part. Biggest Dre record still to this day.
Jay Z is not a rapper He is a producer Jay z influenced many rapers. He wiml remain a huge personality. But he is NOT a MC. You could never compare Nas vs Jay Z in term of lyrics flow etc. Jay Z is and will remain a boss a producer
I automatically think all rappers gas their past or just straight up lie but way too many dudes vouch for Jay. Calvin Klein said they moved weight and he even took a charge for Jay. D Haven said they moved weight together and Jay even grew the business while Haven was in the hospital. Camron said he used to take drugs to Jay-z's stash spot on 560 state street. Photographer Timothy White said when he met Jay in 88 he had a ton of real gold on him. Teddy Riley said he's legit and he's a witness to Jay's street life. All kinds of shit..
So sampling a song is biting? Well then by those terms your favorite artist is just as big a biter if not more than Jay Z is. Lol no. He paid homage. Biting is stealing flows/cadences/lingo/subject matter.
@@JohnSmith33333 when u sampling ur peers then acting like u the best yeah its biting. How many folk outside of NY knew that was a Fat Joe song and beat first?
J was outside. Obviously the scoop was mushroomed. J got out and had his eyes on billions in 96. Joe’s insecurities held him back, made him overly assessable and not focused on on his craft and business. Focus on yourself. Ignore the noise.
The thing about "taking your beats" is, back in the day we all knew where the original music to their raps came from, and because of that no one ever gave props to the artists for the music but solely for their rap game. People didn't really care about beefs involving the sounds used because the artists rarely came up with their own beats and just used popular music from the 60's and 70's and just mixed in little things here and there to make it "distinctive".
Let's be honest, there's no shortage of individuals in the music industry that rap about living a gangsta lifestyle that they don't live & have never lived....the music industry, though not to the same degree as the film industry, still attracts, creates, rewards, caters, encourages, etc to fake people or people to be fake. Respect to the genuine artists....tbh i'm surprised there ain't more fake asstists exposed by genuine artists.
I been looking for that fat joe- bring it on song for a minute. I heard the beat on a freestyle and it was crazy. Sound like it should have been on GTA3 game radio or something
I cannot picture jay z tall and goofy getting chased around a couch LOL ..but jay z always coming out on top he is too slick! The story about the NYC blackout and where Jay Z was in the tour bus sipping Cristal and eating snacks is classic😂
Exactly! "Reasonable Doubt" along with other albums from artists like Raekwon and AZ helped usher in the mafioso rap. Fat Joe never originally talked that shit in his early work.
@@OmegaManCodes the early part of Jay-Z rapping differently and smiling and looking corny in the videos of late 80s early 90s. Back then labels wanted cheesy and friendly Rappers like Will Smith. Parent's don't understand was a huge hit and labels wanted their rappers to imitate it. Even Rza did a corny video. It wasn't until NWA came into the season that made gangster rap main stream and rappers started rapping and doing videos reflecting who they were and their environment.... So who knows why Jay-Z did those corny videos and rap songs. When you're coming up back then, you will do anything when you see easy money.
Big props on your documentaries. I like how you put in clips of interviews and songs but just but the meat of the matter and don’t just play a 10 minute interview where most of the points are just repeated over and over. Even when you do include a longer interview it’s relevant to the subject. A lot of other rap doc channels do this and after you get past the filler it’s really just 20% pertinent info. Keep up the good work.
Bro when you introduced the Full-A-Clips crew you showed Prospect when you said Toom, he is a different person who was also know as Da Sick One who is Gilly and Big Earl cousin.
Bruh Im from that era time and place. Fat Joe was down with DITC digging in the crates. Diamond D, Showbizz, AG, also Big L. Joe wasn't known for spitting and didn't really get known musically until Big Pun died. Pun was blessed by Kool G Rap and keeping it real Pun one of the top lyricst dead or alive.
"When Puff was in that tub spilling Mo I was at my video, Cris on the speedboat In My Lifetime, nigga, go through your research St. Thomas, my nigga, that was me first" Hov in 95-96
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0:24 Fat Joe dissing me for making the video 2 hours long. This is the censored version of the original beef analysis which got age restricted by RUclips (link: ruclips.net/video/f8-HjLZTwKU/видео.html).
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Did he really
Lmao hilarious. 0:24 That's the perfect clip.
I’m like, for real 😮 🤣🤣🤣
Jay-Z wasn't fucking with pun...
Didn't call it terror for nothing.
Big Pun chasing Jay-Z around a couch is the funniest thing I've heard in Hip Hop.
big pun was kidnapping mfs favorite rappers lol
@@BoxingLegends2024 Bruh Christopher Rios was no joke
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Pun was a real g and one of the few if not the only rapper that didn't leave his neighborhood after he became rich and famous
I met fat Joe once at a bowling alley in NJ , I was a kid maybe 8-9 so early 2000’s. When he walked in he ordered everyone chicken tenders that was there prior to all his people coming in. Later on My little sister didn’t like the smoking they were doing so he got us a lane all the way on the end and said he’d cover anything we wanted to eat & all the rounds we played. my dad ordered MADDD STUFF 😂 we was eating bowling alley food for like 5 days 😂
That’s love fr
@@jherfav4326 that’s a fact! the only other 3 celebrities I’ve met that I mention is latifa, treach and shaq. Latifah bought me and my friends sneakers once just because we was the only kids in the store at the time. Me and treach from the same area so growing up he’d always stop by and show illtown love. & shaq sent me to summer camp lol my mom was on a free trial run for the boys and girls club in Newark and bro just randomly showed up. He was asking us what we wanted to be when we got older and I said an astronaut but I wanted to start as a pilot and aeronaut first. while everyone else was saying the generic answers. So he approached my mom and gave them a number to call & the rest was history.
This is the best breakdown video I've seen of the Terror Squad & Roc-A-Fella beef. Very well explained and edited. So many subliminals that flew over my head. I can watch this multiple times.
I can't go to any hip hop video without you lol You're a real hip hop head.
@@Man_eee 😆 I'm going to watch the Biggie vs. Nas one soon and leave a comment.
@@KD_SWAGGER Haha I just watched that one yesterday and watched this today. I'll go look for your comment haha all jokes bro but you really do watch a lot of the same videos. Props to you.
@@Man_eee 😆 I checked your channel so that's how I knew you commented there. All good and likewise! Our type of hip hop keeps me from not going insane.
@@KD_SWAGGER Yea man I mean it takes a lot of time to watch all these videos But its worth it if it benefits you in a positive way. Plus if Hip Hop is a big part of our lives we gonna continue watching bc that's what we grew up too. Hip Hop is Life!
I wish Pun wouldve realized before he died that music awards are just for the business end of the industry, not to show who is really the best in that category. He did so well in the music business as a whole. Most artists cant even make a profit with their music and he was getting the bag every album drop as well as live shows. RIP Pun.
Yeah in hindsight that would be a great thing to put in perspective. However, these awards not only validated artists amongst certain music people outside of the hip-hop community, but clearly open doors for business opportunities as well. If what this video claims was all the way accurate then I can see why Pun felt slighted.
These documentaries belong in the hip hop Museum
Fat Joe was like Fifty where nobody wanted to sign them cause they was to much of a threat to labels and other rappers.
Yeah def seems like it
Cap
Lmfao! If you believe any of this crap..then your a bigger fool then I though…it’s all made up by there Masonic masters..There daddy is Satan and there souls are gone
@Frank Hernandez what are you talking about you on some other stuff wit this bruh
Fifty said it himself no labels mess with Joe because he’s high risk.
This dude accent got me in tears the way he ripping Jay-Z 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Dude your documentaries are crazy long but 100% worth every minute of watching.
I was working at BMG when Jay-Z's cd Reasonable Doubt came in. I had the CD months before it dropped. I remember playing it in the car and mad people was asking who he was. CD's a classic.
Which album you had?
@@Ezekiel144k reasonable doubt ( his first album )
Still one of my favorite albums. I remember someone passed it down to me. Felt like a bible.
Very lyrical album but blueprint is my favorite album of his
Classic album
Peace fam. Your videos are excellently done!!! The amount of detail and in-depth lyrical analysis is much appreciated. Well researched and well documented information and u cover all sides of these stories. This is the 2nd video that I’ve watched from you but you’ve got a fan and a supporter in me. Salute
Most will never understand how good Pun was. I had the privilege to know in person how dope he was.
Wow can you tell us sone stories pls
@@goyaame4517 can’t tell if that’s sarcasm or not.
@@isaacocasio3165ounds like he’s trolling bro. If you did know him I’d just keep any comments about him to yourself. It’ll just attract these clowns on here to come out from their mom’s basement.
Yeah if you witnessed pun in person there has to be a story or 2. Everyone would love you hear it 💯
@@isaacocasio3165no sarcasm from me. But I’d love to hear if you’re still interested in sharing.
You are misinterpreting Pun’s line from It’s So Hard - he isn’t saying he isn’t the best lyricist alive and deferring to Jay Z. It’s a tribute to the talent coming behind him from Terror Squad. He says it directly after.
This "narrator" does that a lot
I died at, "cause Pun & Joe were the biggest fat rappers you know".... RIP Pun one of the greatest taken from us too soon.
This was an authentic documentary. Worth watching the entire 2 hours. 💯
this comment made me bite the bullet. glad i did. well done @hiphopuniverse
And its thorough
Was, is, will be. Puns delivery was out of this world
Fam the detail this man puts in these are incredible.....i know its a lot of work but i can really watch these jawns over and over. I appreciate you fam
Great work man - the fact checking part, the delivery and also being upfront about the rumour parts. Watched it like if it was a movie! Big up.
Lmao 🤣🤣 I love how this guy emphasizes that Jay-Z is chilling and enjoying life 🤣🤣
😂😂😂 jay was like why he say fuck me for
That's crazy the Joe impacted Hov at that level. Definitely legendary stuff. Good work on this doc!
Cap
@Noc Bundles Give mommy her tablet back and get to bed son
Jay was a fan but Joe took it the wrong way.
Huh?? Lmao
Stop it
This beef is the definition of someone living in your head rent free lol.
Terror Squad was fighting a dude who didn’t even acknowledge them as an enemy.
Exactly. I was in ny during this time, and I dont remember Jay acknowledging this beef like he did w Nas, or 50. And the crown went from Big To Jay, there was no if ands or butts about that. His discography says it all.
@Rooms Mush Yeeeah nah. He wasn't scared. No need to acknowledge the roaches as a king.
Idk man, the way Jay still try and jabs at Nas. Dropping projects around his and the way he kept on about his beefs I can see it Joey and puns way.
@@roomsmush1398 You sound like an out of towner talking like that. The latin kinds never ran anything in nyc, get your facts straight. Italian mob, and russian mob was the only thing running any kind of business worth noting during that time.
@@MichaelSantimauro Don't forget about the Albanians too. Real ones that were out the streets back then know.
Who let Arnold Schwarzenegger narrate this😂
😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Cant unhear it now lol
Other people always tell our story like they have street cred??? Like first of all who are you. Than have a title called hip hop University??? Again who are you???
@@empire7179oh whatever. Who else is making well researched and informative, long form videos on hip hop like this?
amazing break down... being in my 30s you knew bout the tension and some disses but to have it all broken down in one video is dope .... salute
Killer break down, thanks for all the effort you put in
I been binge watching these 90's hip hop docs for the last 5 hours.
Im obligated to subscribe now
Joe and Pun were no joke on the street
That’s the fact
Because spanish people hold each other down thick and thin.....they had crazy support
@@jayscarz1157 facts
@@jayscarz1157 No it was because they had an army of Latin Kings holding them down
@@SwKinfinite Them Latin niggas in NY is real street niggas.
Another great video. The stories behind the songs are fascinating. I never realized how connected so many MCs, DJs and producers are in the industry. Can’t wait for your next video 💯🎤💿📀
There's no way pun was chasing Jay
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Yooooooo 😂😂😂😂 I was wondering if it was one of those slow speed, OJ on the freeway type chases 😂😂😂😂
@@didyallseethat499 🤣🤣🤣
Facts
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This video is another Win for you bro. I swear these breakdowns you doing are tough! Good deep dives for hip hop heads for no knowledge of the stuff behind the curtain.
Thank you for your honesty on your info from rumors. Most RUclipsrs don’t sprinkle a little “Take what I’m about to say with a grain of salt” in their videos. Respect+ you earned a sub
Sometimes life makes you humble yourself. Glad no one got hurt during it all and rip to pun
Man if ppl knew Joe he is a Big Big Basketball fan. Had a Team in Rucker that got busy. Jay ended up putting a team in Rucker the same year 2003. Both teams made it to the Championship that year the rest is History. Jay owed Money.
Joe’s team won yeah?
They never played it was a city black out
I love your work. Keep these great videos coming! 💯
I agree.. dude sounds like Arnold S too..
huh?
2 hours god damn…You put in work gang.
Cara vc e incrível ! Nunca vi alguém que entende tão bem de hip hop ( eu adoro seu canal)
That weight loss program at Duke is interesting. There’s a story of a wrestler from WWF, Yokozuna, who was sent there to lose weight. He was a big dude like Pun, easily pushing 500lbs. The corporate WWF offices would occasionally call to check in with Yoko and he would lie about having lost weight. Eventually his time ended at the program and he was released, possibly cause he wasn’t losing any weight. He actually came out heavier than he did when he went in. I think it was later discovered he was bribing someone affiliated with the program to smuggle in food for him. Unfortunately Yoko died as well sometime around 2000
I remember him he was like a fuckin sumo wrestler lmao 😂
That’s 100% accurate
Oh sh!t I heard about this, my Cuzn who was in rehab there told me a bunch of stories of Pun being there & Yokozuna, some I can't say.
I remember. The story line in WWF at the time was Yokozuna went to Japan to sumo wrestle. He was at Duke trying to lose wait and gain stamina.
RIP Pun and Yokozuna
Also big show and mark Henry went to that program
we all have options even if you think you don’t have options you have options. you could choose to be alone and work on yourself or you can choose to settle with that person.
Pun was a better lyricist than Jay z
Facts.
Big Facts
Waaaaay better
Back then? Yea
One of the best ever!!!
MOST PEOPLE DON’T EVEN KNOW PUN WAS A LATIN KING 👑 KING TONE ACTUALLY CROWNED HIM TRUE STORY
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3:46 “Back then he looked more like a goofy and insecure nerd who is trying to act cool.” God dam! Tell ‘em how you really feel cousin!! 😂😂😂
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😂😂😂 word
Drake Vibes
Fat Joe?..... yeah you are right
😂😂😂 he went in hard lol
Middle Finger U was 100% a subliminal at Fat Joe/Pun. Idgaf what Sauce Money says. He is straight lying
From the outside looking in it definitely sounds like it. Even if it wasn’t aimed at anyone when you release a song with those types of lyrics it opens the door for someone to misinterpret it and think you’re talking about them, especially in the rap game where there is alot of chest puffing and being seen as week could tank your career.
Reasonable Doubt was originally supposed to be a concept album. And back when he was with Jaz, those weren't his songs. He was the featured artist so he had to rhyme bout whatever the main artist wanted too. And back then, rappers didn't snitch on themselves like this generation. In the late 80's/ early 90's, east coast rappers where trying to be lyrical not gangster. That didn't happen till 93ish
Exactly. Plenty of guys were rapping like that and were still in the streets 💯
Pun was not only a top tier rapper/ lyricist. I mean who else other than big l could be considered 1 of the greats without more material out. Also pun was bout that life
My boy met pun back in the day before he got obese and that dude came outside of his own concert and fucked this dude up with a bat for hittin some girl in the line outside
Yeah and GOD took him out of here too
He was bout that buffet/all u can eat life
@@yehudahbenisaiah1934 gods gna take u out of here too so what's ur point
@MrOgmack321 pun and or the terror squad must of ran a train on ur girl 😆 🤣
Same thing happened with Lil Kim and Foxxy Brown. Brown spent most of her career dissing Kim and not focusing on the bigger picture. And that’s why Kim was more successful in her music career…This was dope… Good Job 👍🏽
That was so well produced and such a funny story. I was laughing about the Ruckers bball then it just got funnier and funnier... When he said... "It got more serious for Jay not in terms of bars but in terms of ignoring Fat Joe... That was so funny
That was amazing great content as usual keep up the Fantastic work
I almost didn’t watch this until the ending but I’m glad I did!! Fat Joes ending words were powerful, honest, grown man sh!t
O please fat Joe is a snake
Reasonable doubt is such a classic
So nowadays self snitching is 100% cool but in the 90’s we knew better!!!!!
All those verses Jay put out before “Reasonable Doubt” Jay was still actually selling drugs in a large scale so of course he wasn’t gonna speak on it until he was out the game!!!!! It’s called smart
Big time facts 💯 👏
You can't tell these idiots that. And plus around that time was the beginning of the RICO Law.👍🏽✌🏽
All u Gay Z and Diddy lovers are laughable
Self snitching existed in the 1990s too
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Pun was a real G. Mans had the whole queensbridge locked down n thats not even his Borough. Pun had that shit set up on sum saints row type shit. No games being played. wonder how hip hop
would be if we still had Pun here with us
The same as it is now lol.
@@miked.336 right😂 like wtf he said that like Pun would still be in his prime in 2022😂 If rap is this way with Nas, Snoop, Dr Dre, Wu Tang, Jay Z etc etc being alive. Pun wouldn’t of changed the outcome
@@skrapelotto unfortunately it's not the rapper's that could change it it's the damn industry
@@skrapelotto Pun def wouldve changed the outcome. If he continued to put out music through the 2000s at the same level of capital punishment he'd definitely have some of if not the biggest influence on the rap game, shit would be hella different, more people would def consider him a goat too
@@skrapelotto Uh, Nas and Method man have been dropping bomb tracks for like the past year. (“Smooth Criminal”, “Who Do We Trust”) plus Nas dropped THREE solo albums in the past 2 years, with some of the most fire tracks he’s done in years! Plus Snoop dropped “Big Subwoofer”).
I can tell you for a fact alot of the stories back then were greatly exaggerated unless it was a story about DMX or The Wutang Clan
Pun Always been bout it thats why he the GOAT. Boricua Represent
love to see the reconciliation at the end, fat joe is a grown man for admitting all that
😊 Good times. Jay and Fat Joe have grown into intelligent reasonable men which is a beautiful evolution. RIP Big pun One of the best to ever do it!
Fat Joe is a stand up guy for admitting he wasted 10-15 years on a senseless beef!!
Jay-Z & Drake both studied different MC’s and took bits and pieces from them… think about that…. Swagger jacking
"I'm not a biter I'm a writer for myself and others".................Still D.R.E .........Jigga wrote Dre part and Snoop part. Biggest Dre record still to this day.
Been saying this and the worst part is they act like they came up with everything themselves and their Stan think they are the best lol
Jay Z is not a rapper
He is a producer
Jay z influenced many rapers. He wiml remain a huge personality.
But he is NOT a MC.
You could never compare Nas vs Jay Z in term of lyrics flow etc.
Jay Z is and will remain a boss a producer
Just ask NAS and Push if they can really rap
@@rashadmabon8253 no one is saying they can’t Rap .. I am saying they bite other people’s shit
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND DEDICATION TO MAKING THESE VIDEOS, SHOULD BE PUT ON HISTORY CHANNEL
Actually love the way it ends though, with Joe maturely admitting where he was wrong
This was a great piece of content💯👏🏼
Talking about a bottle for 10 minutes killed it for me
Excellent breakdown on what went down.
17:22 LMAAO 😂😂😂😂😂 that is wild petty. Buying every drink in the bar though
I automatically think all rappers gas their past or just straight up lie but way too many dudes vouch for Jay. Calvin Klein said they moved weight and he even took a charge for Jay. D Haven said they moved weight together and Jay even grew the business while Haven was in the hospital. Camron said he used to take drugs to Jay-z's stash spot on 560 state street. Photographer Timothy White said when he met Jay in 88 he had a ton of real gold on him. Teddy Riley said he's legit and he's a witness to Jay's street life. All kinds of shit..
Yessir
Yup all rappers cap about their past to some extent but jay definitely had his hands in the drug game before the rap took off
This was amazing. Much props!
This was great. Haven’t finished yet. But so far it’s amazing.
Very well done.
You got my subscribe.
I didnt know Jay Z sample Joes so many times so Joe had a point same way Jay sampled Nas he was biting from dudes before him🤷🏽
Facts.
So sampling a song is biting? Well then by those terms your favorite artist is just as big a biter if not more than Jay Z is. Lol no. He paid homage. Biting is stealing flows/cadences/lingo/subject matter.
Nah sampling isn’t biting
@@JohnSmith33333 jigga didnt do that?
@@JohnSmith33333 when u sampling ur peers then acting like u the best yeah its biting. How many folk outside of NY knew that was a Fat Joe song and beat first?
big pun is one of my favourite rappers but anytime i mention him to my friends they dont know :(
J was outside. Obviously the scoop was mushroomed. J got out and had his eyes on billions in 96. Joe’s insecurities held him back, made him overly assessable and not focused on on his craft and business.
Focus on yourself. Ignore the noise.
Probs for making this doc! Great work my G
The thing about "taking your beats" is, back in the day we all knew where the original music to their raps came from, and because of that no one ever gave props to the artists for the music but solely for their rap game. People didn't really care about beefs involving the sounds used because the artists rarely came up with their own beats and just used popular music from the 60's and 70's and just mixed in little things here and there to make it "distinctive".
Tell that to Nas & (stuck on Salty) ‘Pac in ‘96…
Kraftwerk is king of rap.
I love all the random B-roll like the gasoline on fire and the Honda over the dumpster 😂
This was dope af. Definitely subscribed asap after watching this!
Champagne bottle don't break 🤣🤣🤣
Let's be honest, there's no shortage of individuals in the music industry that rap about living a gangsta lifestyle that they don't live & have never lived....the music industry, though not to the same degree as the film industry, still attracts, creates, rewards, caters, encourages, etc to fake people or people to be fake.
Respect to the genuine artists....tbh i'm surprised there ain't more fake asstists exposed by genuine artists.
This channel is legendary, knew the story's but never all these little details keep it up
Pun was rowdy as fuck. Like a East version of PAC!! cross him it’s on!
Pac is from New York
@@JohnDoe-iv5ns and CLAIMED THE WEST SON!
There is a universe between pun and pac. Pun was a waaaay better rapper
@@lucabrasi8790 AND WHY WOULD YOUR SHIT OPINION MATTER TO ME!!??
@@lucabrasi8790 saying shit like that is why u sleep w the fishes now
This nice but what about Rocafella vs Ruff Ryders
That's moreso State Property vs the Lox
I been looking for that fat joe- bring it on song for a minute. I heard the beat on a freestyle and it was crazy. Sound like it should have been on GTA3 game radio or something
This channel is AMAZING!🙏🏽💯 Thanks
fuck i love BIG PUN. lyrical savage.
You got views you plant..... good work
I cannot picture jay z tall and goofy getting chased around a couch LOL ..but jay z always coming out on top he is too slick! The story about the NYC blackout and where Jay Z was in the tour bus sipping Cristal and eating snacks is classic😂
I aint know a lot of these details 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 great work.
Moral of the story is, some friendships are natural and some are forged with time and having differences
This is the best breakdown I’ve ever seen 👌🏽
To be fair the 80’s rap was different and the labels was running shit not like you had a choice back then
The fact that you were able to understand that when the author of the video doesn't is well respected salute
@@OmegaManCodes what part are we talking about?
Exactly! "Reasonable Doubt" along with other albums from artists like Raekwon and AZ helped usher in the mafioso rap. Fat Joe never originally talked that shit in his early work.
@@OmegaManCodes the early part of Jay-Z rapping differently and smiling and looking corny in the videos of late 80s early 90s. Back then labels wanted cheesy and friendly Rappers like Will Smith. Parent's don't understand was a huge hit and labels wanted their rappers to imitate it. Even Rza did a corny video. It wasn't until NWA came into the season that made gangster rap main stream and rappers started rapping and doing videos reflecting who they were and their environment.... So who knows why Jay-Z did those corny videos and rap songs. When you're coming up back then, you will do anything when you see easy money.
@@blowc1612your concept of time is funny 😂
Big props on your documentaries. I like how you put in clips of interviews and songs but just but the meat of the matter and don’t just play a 10 minute interview where most of the points are just repeated over and over. Even when you do include a longer interview it’s relevant to the subject. A lot of other rap doc channels do this and after you get past the filler it’s really just 20% pertinent info. Keep up the good work.
Are you ever gonna reupload the full video of Mos Def Big Pun DMX Cannabis freestyle? Peace
That video has been out for over 20 years.
@@Man_eee Where can I find it???
Great doc 🔥🔥🔥💯
Pun is a fucking legend, Period. Great video.
Dude this documentary is amazing 🔥
Jay took a lot of sounds from Fat Joes first album. Facts
Bro when you introduced the Full-A-Clips crew you showed Prospect when you said Toom, he is a different person who was also know as Da Sick One who is Gilly and Big Earl cousin.
Bruh Im from that era time and place. Fat Joe was down with DITC digging in the crates. Diamond D, Showbizz, AG, also Big L. Joe wasn't known for spitting and didn't really get known musically until Big Pun died. Pun was blessed by Kool G Rap and keeping it real Pun one of the top lyricst dead or alive.
I knew about fat Joe wait before pun came along and I’m all the way in Houston at the time
If Big Pun was alive, He would of been top of the food chain!! Really in the street and really a lyrical Monster
Agreed on both
He’d have certainly been on top of food
@@PERKIODURKIOu like riding other people meat, your jokes ain't funny
@@eyeopening618 who am I riding it was just a joke stop being so sensitive
"When Puff was in that tub spilling Mo
I was at my video, Cris on the speedboat
In My Lifetime, nigga, go through your research
St. Thomas, my nigga, that was me first" Hov in 95-96
Nobody knew Terror Squad was beefing with Rockefeller until the beef was squashed
Great analysis!
At the end of the day Joe,Pun and nas won the battles but J won the war.
Pun was on another level.. What other rapper would have people thrown off balcony’s…. PUN definitely chased Jay Z…
This king of New York Talk make me think of 69 and where it comes from so heavy💯💯he been studying and growing up under them watching them as a kid..