hey man, your setup is wired correctly. you were just calling the white a neutral, while that's true in most applications that's a 240v air compressor and requires 2 poll breaker. meaning 2 hots and ground there's no neutral in that application.
According to the Lowes website, the compressor draw is 15.7 amps @230v. Breaker sizing is set by NEC 430.52, that has the correct sizing for fuses and breakers. The one thing not given on the data sheet, is the motor's service factor, but I will assume it is 1.15. SO, the breaker size should be 15.7 x 1.15 x 2.50 = 45 Amps (this is the MAXIMUM allowed, so a breaker under this is selected). Using a 20 amp breaker is rather low and very close to the normal load. You may have tripping on start up due to the inrush to the motor. A better size would be 30 amps, and the wire is sized to match the breaker.
I put a 80 gallon in my shop last year and I wouldn't hesitate to do it again. I don't know what load a plasma cutter runs but we do mostly body work and some welding for a few people. My grandfather has been doing it 50+ years at that location and never had anything but an 80 gal tank with the dual pumps they work better for our setup. Also my pops works for lowes and gave me the skinny on em. Lowes is easy to return them if something happens....make sure you use some paperwork for the install cuz they get super bitchy about people with "no business license doing/certification" wiring them up. but if your like me im sure you got a contact who would vouch for ya. Also outta just curiosity do you know that you need to monetize your videos if you want to make $$ on it? if you don't know how there are several good videos out there but if you cant get it worked out shoot me a message and I would be happy to help. Looking forward to the review on the ground blind I will wait for it to build my own!!
Another question if you don't mind answering, would you recomend 20amp or 30amp? I wired it and installed 30amp? Would it be okay to leaving it with 30amp?
I used what it recommended. You don't ever go BIGGER. You will burn your shop down or your house. Going to big your breaker won't trip and the will start heating up and burn. Or it can also mess up whatever you have plugged in
There’s a video from ave how to set something like this with a 3 phase motor have you seen it yet it’s really cool how he does it and it is supper quiet
Hey Buddy did you wire up a electrical disconnect box for you’re compressor or do you just turn off the compressor by the switch on the compressors pressure switch or breaker? I’m going to be wiring up a 230v 15amp 3hp compressor only about a 20 ft run at most and was just considering using 10/2 wire and a 20a double throw pole just needed to know if I need to wire a disconnect box or if I’d be fine going without and just adding a new separate 20a double pole breaker to my main breaker panel and running the wire to the 230v outlet. Could you tell me exactly what all the supplies I would need to get from Lowe’s or Home Depot to wire it up to the compressor? The compressor comes wired already I just have to wire from the outlet to the pressure switch after installing the circuit breaker and running the 10-2 wire to the outlet.
I use my breaker as my switch to turn it on and off. And just leave the air compressor on auto. I think I used 10/3 wire. Not sure it's been so long. Supply list? Breaker, wire, conduit or whatever your running the wire through. And your end for your conduit that go into you panel box and air compressor. Electrical tape, wire nuts maybe for the air compressor side. Depending on how it's made
Okay nice you used 10/2 wire is what you said in the video and yeah how is you’re kobalt compressor running for you still running strong? I think I will do the same and hard wire as well I’m not sure if the compressor is coming with a plug on the end or it shows that the customer has to wire everything from the one side of the pressure switch when my power connects to the main break panel so I’m assuming it doesn’t come with a plug. So I’m not going to spend anymore money than I have to and wire one up if I can just do what you did and wire directly into the outlet/wall in the garage to the panel.
Does the compressor ever trip the 20A breaker when the motor kicks in? I have the same Kobalt compressor and the manual calls for 30A breaker. Thanks for the video!
I just burnout a motor on my 230v air compresor my voltage meter is showing 236v would this be the cause of the burnout? Or rotation has to do something? Not sure if wiring black on left side and white on right side can make a difference.? Can you please help me with this question what could of cause the burnout of the motor?
Your volt meter showing 236 sounds about right so I don't think that would be your problem. Because some 110 outlets I have checked are around 115 to 124 volts. Could be it's not grounded good. Lighting could have run in on it and fried it. I had that happen to my welder it set me back right at $1,200. Could have just been a bad motor. How old is it?
Jeffrey Bright most of the time when wiring something new it's in the owners manual. otherwise you would have to test it or look at the motor to see how many amps it will pull
@@redbeardsdiy1222 black white and green. The problem is with the screws to attach the wires, they seem to be stripped but I took the switch back to Lowes where I bought it and exchanged it for a new switch box.
air compressor cylinders are pretty much the same as a car engine cylinder, except run backwards. Instead of creating pressure in the cylinder to turn a shaft, we turn a shaft to create pressure. What makes a two stage compressor interesting is that one cylinder pumps into the next cylinder, so that the next cylinder has a much higher starting pressure and can further compress the air. The advantage being that the airflow is much higher at higher pressures than a single stage, where each cylinder just feeds the tank directly. A single stage will have much more airflow at lower pressure, however.
That was funny, I caught that too. Man I want one of those wooden welders, and also I would like someone to find me a board stretcher I could really use one LOL.
God damnit pitter patter let's get atter ! This was about wiring a compressor not about wiring your shop. Come on son need to keep them separated : video for compressor , pressure switch, power cord , motor, ect. Video for shop wiring air compressor, welders, plasma cutter, lights and outlets ect.
Richard, ouch!!!! The actual specs sheet recommended 16 gauge wire for a 17.2 amp device??? Wow, something's odd. Really odd. Typically, even a small load, such as lights, running on 15-amp circuit calls for wire of 14 AWG. A 20-amp circuit would require wire of 12 AWG. For 16 gauge wire, you would not want to run a load of more than 7 amps (10 amps peak). Running a load not properly rated for the correctly sized wires and breaker can cause some serious problems. Don't burn your shop down, my friend.
+Susan Shadley lol I'm the camera man the welder everything..... lol I film it all with my cell phone.... need to spend the money and get me a good camera and tripod
I was watching this video as our new 60 gallon air compressor wouldn't work...as it turns out they electrician wired directly into the motor there fore the pressure switch didn't have a chance to shut it off when it reached 155 psi...they came back and fixed it :)
hey man, your setup is wired correctly. you were just calling the white a neutral, while that's true in most applications that's a 240v air compressor and requires 2 poll breaker. meaning 2 hots and ground there's no neutral in that application.
Also you usually tape both ends of the white wire with black tape to signify that it is now a hot wire.
+bartz118 that's one new thing I learned.... thanks man
According to the Lowes website, the compressor draw is 15.7 amps @230v. Breaker sizing is set by NEC 430.52, that has the correct sizing for fuses and breakers. The one thing not given on the data sheet, is the motor's service factor, but I will assume it is 1.15. SO, the breaker size should be 15.7 x 1.15 x 2.50 = 45 Amps (this is the MAXIMUM allowed, so a breaker under this is selected). Using a 20 amp breaker is rather low and very close to the normal load. You may have tripping on start up due to the inrush to the motor. A better size would be 30 amps, and the wire is sized to match the breaker.
Haven't had any problems yet. But I will keep this in mind. Thank you. Thanks for watching
I put a 80 gallon in my shop last year and I wouldn't hesitate to do it again. I don't know what load a plasma cutter runs but we do mostly body work and some welding for a few people. My grandfather has been doing it 50+ years at that location and never had anything but an 80 gal tank with the dual pumps they work better for our setup. Also my pops works for lowes and gave me the skinny on em. Lowes is easy to return them if something happens....make sure you use some paperwork for the install cuz they get super bitchy about people with "no business license doing/certification" wiring them up. but if your like me im sure you got a contact who would vouch for ya. Also outta just curiosity do you know that you need to monetize your videos if you want to make $$ on it? if you don't know how there are several good videos out there but if you cant get it worked out shoot me a message and I would be happy to help. Looking forward to the review on the ground blind I will wait for it to build my own!!
Another question if you don't mind answering, would you recomend 20amp or 30amp? I wired it and installed 30amp? Would it be okay to leaving it with 30amp?
I used what it recommended. You don't ever go BIGGER. You will burn your shop down or your house. Going to big your breaker won't trip and the will start heating up and burn. Or it can also mess up whatever you have plugged in
Identify the white wire as hot with black electrical tape on both ends. Just for safety and most codes.
Thank you
There’s a video from ave how to set something like this with a 3 phase motor have you seen it yet it’s really cool how he does it and it is supper quiet
I will have to check that out
Hey Buddy did you wire up a electrical disconnect box for you’re compressor or do you just turn off the compressor by the switch on the compressors pressure switch or breaker? I’m going to be wiring up a 230v 15amp 3hp compressor only about a 20 ft run at most and was just considering using 10/2 wire and a 20a double throw pole just needed to know if I need to wire a disconnect box or if I’d be fine going without and just adding a new separate 20a double pole breaker to my main breaker panel and running the wire to the 230v outlet. Could you tell me exactly what all the supplies I would need to get from Lowe’s or Home Depot to wire it up to the compressor? The compressor comes wired already I just have to wire from the outlet to the pressure switch after installing the circuit breaker and running the 10-2 wire to the outlet.
I use my breaker as my switch to turn it on and off. And just leave the air compressor on auto. I think I used 10/3 wire. Not sure it's been so long. Supply list? Breaker, wire, conduit or whatever your running the wire through. And your end for your conduit that go into you panel box and air compressor. Electrical tape, wire nuts maybe for the air compressor side. Depending on how it's made
Also I hard wired my air compressor in. Didn't make it to where you could plug it in
And look at my HCK Whelping box build Part 1 video. It has some 110 and 220 wiring in it also
Okay nice you used 10/2 wire is what you said in the video and yeah how is you’re kobalt compressor running for you still running strong? I think I will do the same and hard wire as well I’m not sure if the compressor is coming with a plug on the end or it shows that the customer has to wire everything from the one side of the pressure switch when my power connects to the main break panel so I’m assuming it doesn’t come with a plug. So I’m not going to spend anymore money than I have to and wire one up if I can just do what you did and wire directly into the outlet/wall in the garage to the panel.
Thanks so much for the fast reply that helps so much.
Does the compressor ever trip the 20A breaker when the motor kicks in? I have the same Kobalt compressor and the manual calls for 30A breaker. Thanks for the video!
TheBananaSlugger no I have never had it trip my breaker. Or had any problems with it
I just burnout a motor on my 230v air compresor my voltage meter is showing 236v would this be the cause of the burnout? Or rotation has to do something? Not sure if wiring black on left side and white on right side can make a difference.? Can you please help me with this question what could of cause the burnout of the motor?
Your volt meter showing 236 sounds about right so I don't think that would be your problem. Because some 110 outlets I have checked are around 115 to 124 volts. Could be it's not grounded good. Lighting could have run in on it and fried it. I had that happen to my welder it set me back right at $1,200. Could have just been a bad motor. How old is it?
@@redbeardsdiy1222 more than 10years and had it fo almost 7 without a use or turned on
Any help would be much appreciated thanks very much!
What were the ratings on your motor?
I'm not even sure man. Sorry for the late reply. Just seen it
The fucking crickets
😆 🤣
I’m still alive.. I can’t bitch. Thanks
How did you know what amp breaker to use
Jeffrey Bright most of the time when wiring something new it's in the owners manual. otherwise you would have to test it or look at the motor to see how many amps it will pull
@@redbeardsdiy1222 The air compressor is listed at 17.2 amps of draw ability.
What's the start up amps it pull
Sorry for the late reply. I'm not sure on that one.
I got the 2 stage for much cheaper but my issue is connecting the wires inside the wires inside the switch box
What color wires are in the switch box?
@@redbeardsdiy1222 black white and green. The problem is with the screws to attach the wires, they seem to be stripped but I took the switch back to Lowes where I bought it and exchanged it for a new switch box.
@@jamesstanlake4064 I'm glad they exchanged it out for you. Hopefully you can get it to work now
air compressor cylinders are pretty much the same as a car engine cylinder, except run backwards. Instead of creating pressure in the cylinder to turn a shaft, we turn a shaft to create pressure. What makes a two stage compressor interesting is that one cylinder pumps into the next cylinder, so that the next cylinder has a much higher starting pressure and can further compress the air. The advantage being that the airflow is much higher at higher pressures than a single stage, where each cylinder just feeds the tank directly. A single stage will have much more airflow at lower pressure, however.
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO TURN IT ON THE VIDEO TO KNOW IF THE NOISE CAN BE STRONG BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW IF I BUY ONE
Vengo Proto I wouldn't want it inside a small shop like mine. It's still loud with it on the outside of my shop.
5:40 you gonna use a wood welder
Lol
That was funny, I caught that too. Man I want one of those wooden welders, and also I would like someone to find me a board stretcher I could really use one LOL.
@@cppower14 😆 lol
@@redbeardsdiy1222 how did being queer make you go blind, asking for a friend. lol
God damnit pitter patter let's get atter ! This was about wiring a compressor not about wiring your shop. Come on son need to keep them separated : video for compressor , pressure switch, power cord , motor, ect. Video for shop wiring air compressor, welders, plasma cutter, lights and outlets ect.
This is very true. Something I do need to work on. Thank you
hey can I get your email? I was wondering if you can guide me through the whole process of setting up my compressor. Would that be alright?
+Danh Truong xXLoydsWeldingXx@gmail.com
+Richard Edward your very welcome man glad I could help you out
Richard, ouch!!!! The actual specs sheet recommended 16 gauge wire for a 17.2 amp device??? Wow, something's odd. Really odd. Typically, even a small load, such as lights, running on 15-amp circuit calls for wire of 14 AWG. A 20-amp circuit would require wire of 12 AWG. For 16 gauge wire, you would not want to run a load of more than 7 amps (10 amps peak). Running a load not properly rated for the correctly sized wires and breaker can cause some serious problems. Don't burn your shop down, my friend.
+Welsh Rabbit. always better to go bigger on you wire size if your unsure. But that is not the case for your breaker size. Good comment THANKS
He needed someone to hold the camera...jumps around too much
+Susan Shadley lol I'm the camera man the welder everything..... lol I film it all with my cell phone.... need to spend the money and get me a good camera and tripod
I was watching this video as our new 60 gallon air compressor wouldn't work...as it turns out they electrician wired directly into the motor there fore the pressure switch didn't have a chance to shut it off when it reached 155 psi...they came back and fixed it :)