Wouldn't surprise me if they gave it to Yaroslava Mahuchikh - broke the high jump world record that had stood since 1987, reigning world champion, Diamond League champion for the 3rd consecutive year, defended her European championship, and won Olympic gold.
That would be my choice on the women's side. Other females would be Hassan based on her three-medal performance in Paris (including marathon gold) and as the video mentions Beatrice Chebet for the 5K/10K double gold. Men's side would probably be Jakob, just so many good performances across the middle distance category.
Ingebritsen's 3000 record was valued at 1320 points, and Mahuchikh's HJ record was valued at 1319. And his competitors were much closer to his level (1299 and 1295 in the same race) than her competitors were to her level. Her record may not have Beamonesque, but it was still phenomenal and historic.
in the span of a little over a year too he broke the 2 mile and 3,000m. crazy. if he gets the 1500m and mile record soon that would be even more crazy. both also set before the year 2000
He isn't arrogant once you get to know him. He likes to stir up interest and have some fun. People take his comments to seriously. He backs up his talk with his walk(run)
Yeah arrogant is being an outright dick or confident without skill. Confident WITH skill is annoying but cool since they can back it up - Noah, Jakob, Tom Brady, hell Tiger Woods underplayed it back in 1999-2009 but still.
Great video explaining why Jakob is such a great runner. I hope he wins the track athlete of the year. Can't wait to see him run in Eugene again next year.
❤ Sifan Hasan has my vote for GOAT - Has any athlete every medalled in 5K, 10K, Marathon in the same Olympics. Has any athlete ever had that diversity of performance? it’d be like Usain Bolt medalling in the 100m, 200m, and 5K. Or Mondo Duplantis winning the pole vault and the high jump. Or a shot-putter also medalling in javelin. Her performance is bonkers.
I can't blame him tho, he probably thought to run at 3:27 pace so no one could keep up with him and win "easily." The problem was that they actually kept up, lol
have to agree to @19Kamau79 , Cole is just such a freak at finishing fast its insane. But sad to see (again) that leading takes away chances (thinking of kipchoge). Maybe putting pacers in at every race would give fair chances
@GardenChess Jakob can beat (present) Kerr only in extremely fast and paced race, if going out slow there's no possibility to defeat the kickers. Jakob does 3000m and 5000m the best as he isn't speed dominant runner, therefore he didn't have the 1500m Olympic podium because field were way too talented for tactical race.
Grant Holloway should've made the Final 2 for Male Track AotY; Won World Indoors (extended his 10yr unbeaten streak as he broke his own 60mH WR), ran 4th fastest time ever of 12.86 as he stayed unbeaten outdoors in the 110mH right up to OLY winning Gold; then raced 5 more times post OLY winning 3 times as he ran a record number of sub 13s in history (12) at just 26yrs old!
They just need to give to Mondo now and let everybody else enjoy their off season. I don't even know why they bothered to have the fans vote if the 2 category finalists weren't going to be the category final nominees. Just do what they did - pick the 2 people they want to nominate and announce it. Sending the fans to IG to vote just felt like click bait.
given another Olympic cycle I think Jakob will forever be there with the greats, I mean he's already there basically, but I mean engrained in the history books for 50+ years.
7:40 My guess is Kenenisa Bekele even though it might be possible that Haile Gebrselassie managed to do it, but at the same time, there were many great ones at his time too, but I also know that Bernard Lagat managed to defeat Kenenisa Bekele over the 5'000m distance.
There is no competition on the men’s side in results besides Duplantis. But that is a show event with almost no competition world wide compared to running. There is probably more serious runners in one running school in Kenya alone than seriously go after pole vault all over the world
Kind of just seems like he’s doing this in events that aren’t regular events so they aren’t as competitive or important to runners in that range. Is he just that much better at 2000-3200m than he is at 1500 or 5000, or are they just generally weaker events?
I don’t think jakob should be penalized for being so bold trying all these events. If you consider the events outside of the 1500 independent of the 1500, that’s a resume for winning this award
The 2k and 3k are not frequently run events. Maybe the scoring for these are “softer” compared to the standard distances. Could this explain Jakob’s 1300s?
You can see right here that the scoring table should be adjusted continuously. Even Daniel Komens legendary 7:20:67 wasn't worth 1300 points... and btw. the new HM world record of 57:30 is way off the required 57:14 o.O
He's good for sure, and possibly one of the best ever if he can just conquer one distance....the space between his ears. If he could get his head right, no one in the universe could beat him.
He needs to stomp home a 13.7 100m average for the 1500m to get 3:25.5 and break that 3:26 record! Obviously he is now the GOAT of 2 Miles and 2 Metric Miles, breaking Komen's records. Hicham El Guerrouj's records at 1500m and 1 mile are still holding on!
im absolutely convinced Duplantis can jump at least 10 cm higher, but he choose to only raise the bar by 1cm pr competition because his contract gives a big bonus each time he gets a new WR.
Only reason Mondo won’t win is because he’s won it a couple times already. But since this video talked about the World Athletics score so much, you should go look at the scores his WR’s have gotten. He is actually breaking the theoretical limits!
Seems to me that the 1500m is his backup race since has not won a gold medal at a global competition since 2021. He has dominated the 5000m distance...also a quick observation, he is one of the best middle distance runners in history, no question about it, however, he has yet to break a world record in an Olympic event...
Even as a Kerr supporting brit, I've no problem with Jacob's perceived arrogance. He's backed it up time after time (well mostly, a few notable exceptions obviously!).
Lets not judge a man from his shortcomings but his strength. Yakob is the GOAT of middle distance running. However judging world record based on times only is outright stupidity, but aren't we ?
The real unique athlete was Daniel Komen. Look at the track, shoe technology and wavelength pacing. These advantages Jacob has which Komen did not have.
The theoretical limits of races are only made from biomechanical and biochemical models and assuming also a statistical regression calculation upon past records, cannot be trusted over some error. For example in 100m the theoretical fastest time is around 2% or less than actual record. Maybe will have some surprise soon, or maybe not
really hope this channel go to straight to the point rather than a lot of "context explanation" just to make 9 minutes plus video. if you wanna talk about jakob, talk about him, if you wanna talk about olympic record, talk about olympic records. No need to make an unnecessary explanation for the sake of longer videos
its impressive that he has 3 wr in 3 categories, but is 2 miles really different enough from 3km? it´s 6% more. If we use this logic we could have had Usain bold breaking 106m and 212m WR and hold 4 WR with 1300+ score, but it sounds dumb doesnt it.
@RUNISFAST hard to say whether hitting the wall was a matter of choice? It was the same with Bol in the 400m hurdles. Just peaked too early and ultimately burnt out
Usain Bolt hasn't done this? 3,000 and 2 miles aren't even events you can win world or Olympic championships in. So if you're going to do that then you'd need to include the 150m as well. And when you realise bro needs to run 6 seconds faster than that to actually hit Bolts point level, you realise Bolt broke the tables😂
Correct me if I missed something, but there is nothing new in this video, right? As for JI, he is a true great but it is becoming harder to respect him as a human given the increasing number of stupid tattoos all over him, which look like some cell mate did with a needle in prison. What exactly is he thinking?
World record in an event they don't race at the Olympics or WCs is not athlete of the year worthy. His 3 consecutive 5k titles are more impressive than that.
Dude even ran a 63min half-marathon as a fun side quest 2 days after a 1500 race
The second half of that race wasn't "fun" for Jakob.
@@nvan78 He still ran a great time that's ages faster than yours..
Yeah he went through 10k in 27.27...then "slowed down"
Reminds me of ovett he ran a 64 half for fun then raced a 1500 after 3 days later and won lol
Crazy that after the 10k mark he was run walking for parts of it as well, incredible.
Wouldn't surprise me if they gave it to Yaroslava Mahuchikh - broke the high jump world record that had stood since 1987, reigning world champion, Diamond League champion for the 3rd consecutive year, defended her European championship, and won Olympic gold.
I think those are also divided by gender
Great performance
That would be my choice on the women's side. Other females would be Hassan based on her three-medal performance in Paris (including marathon gold) and as the video mentions Beatrice Chebet for the 5K/10K double gold. Men's side would probably be Jakob, just so many good performances across the middle distance category.
Ingebritsen's 3000 record was valued at 1320 points, and Mahuchikh's HJ record was valued at 1319. And his competitors were much closer to his level (1299 and 1295 in the same race) than her competitors were to her level. Her record may not have Beamonesque, but it was still phenomenal and historic.
@charliebell5073 The 1299 wasn't in the same race with him. That was a list of fastest times ever. The 1299 was Komen's -- the record he broke
His 3000 meter record is out of control. Really taking both of the Komen records is just unreal.
in the span of a little over a year too he broke the 2 mile and 3,000m. crazy. if he gets the 1500m and mile record soon that would be even more crazy. both also set before the year 2000
@ I’d have to imagine if it’s going to happen it will be 2025. I honestly believe he could have the 5000 today if he went for it
@@trevorturner8037 he got unserious records
That 3k was considered unbreakable, the very best had tried and failed. @@Wonderkid44
@@Wonderkid44not unserious records but definitely not contested as much as the main events which probably explains the score
Doesn't matter that he won't get track athlete of the year. He ran 7:17.55. One of the very best performances in the history of track.
Many people said he's arrogant. He just confident with his skill. And i respect it.
He isn't arrogant once you get to know him. He likes to stir up interest and have some fun. People take his comments to seriously. He backs up his talk with his walk(run)
I have never thought he is arrogant, Tebogo is for sure, but i think Jakob is just playfully confident.
thats noah
usually, track & field athletes are very boring. So the spectators don't like it when someone actually shows some kind of personality...
Yeah arrogant is being an outright dick or confident without skill.
Confident WITH skill is annoying but cool since they can back it up - Noah, Jakob, Tom Brady, hell Tiger Woods underplayed it back in 1999-2009 but still.
Jakob is amazing as your video. Thanks 🙏 Keep going the excellent job
Great video explaining why Jakob is such a great runner. I hope he wins the track athlete of the year. Can't wait to see him run in Eugene again next year.
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Hey he can break world records but he doesn't really do it when it comes to winning the big medals
Sifan Hassan Sifan Hassan Sifian Hassan - Medals in 5000 + 10000 + Marathon = 10 days in 2024 Paris Olympics. Do you realize how epic this???
❤ Sifan Hasan has my vote for GOAT - Has any athlete every medalled in 5K, 10K, Marathon in the same Olympics. Has any athlete ever had that diversity of performance? it’d be like Usain Bolt medalling in the 100m, 200m, and 5K. Or Mondo Duplantis winning the pole vault and the high jump. Or a shot-putter also medalling in javelin. Her performance is bonkers.
@@matthewjoscott Emile Zatopek (sp?) won the 5K, 10K, and marathon at the same Olympics (can't remember which one).
1952
I mean in the 1500m olympic He would have propably won If he stayed calm and not tried to lead the Race from the beginning.
I can't blame him tho, he probably thought to run at 3:27 pace so no one could keep up with him and win "easily." The problem was that they actually kept up, lol
Nope, if he would go out slow true kickers as Cole and Kerr would outkick him easily.
have to agree to @19Kamau79 , Cole is just such a freak at finishing fast its insane. But sad to see (again) that leading takes away chances (thinking of kipchoge). Maybe putting pacers in at every race would give fair chances
I think Jakob coudlve taken it out slower and do what he does best with a last 800m kick snd they would not have kept up
@GardenChess Jakob can beat (present) Kerr only in extremely fast and paced race, if going out slow there's no possibility to defeat the kickers. Jakob does 3000m and 5000m the best as he isn't speed dominant runner, therefore he didn't have the 1500m Olympic podium because field were way too talented for tactical race.
Love to see him go for the 5000m indoor early 2025.Jakob deserves to win this time
He did one bad race this year, and that was a tactical error. The rest was pure greatness.
Can you do a video on when Shelly Ann Fraser Pryce became the GOAT
Good recommendation.
How can she be the GOAT when she be the GOAT when she's 3rd all time in the 100m.
“I’ll give you a few seconds” then he gives us half a second
Maybe there's some kind of relativity stuff going on, or something... 😁
mistake at 5:50 it says he runs a 4:43.73 mile
He did last year.
@@RUNISFAST It should read 3:43 mile, not 4:43
Nope that's accurate, I finished right in front of him at my 2a state race last year
@@sammyking7806 lol
Grant Holloway should've made the Final 2 for Male Track AotY; Won World Indoors (extended his 10yr unbeaten streak as he broke his own 60mH WR), ran 4th fastest time ever of 12.86 as he stayed unbeaten outdoors in the 110mH right up to OLY winning Gold; then raced 5 more times post OLY winning 3 times as he ran a record number of sub 13s in history (12) at just 26yrs old!
They just need to give to Mondo now and let everybody else enjoy their off season. I don't even know why they bothered to have the fans vote if the 2 category finalists weren't going to be the category final nominees. Just do what they did - pick the 2 people they want to nominate and announce it. Sending the fans to IG to vote just felt like click bait.
given another Olympic cycle I think Jakob will forever be there with the greats, I mean he's already there basically, but I mean engrained in the history books for 50+ years.
jakob is so crazy wit it
7:40 My guess is Kenenisa Bekele even though it might be possible that Haile Gebrselassie managed to do it, but at the same time, there were many great ones at his time too, but I also know that Bernard Lagat managed to defeat Kenenisa Bekele over the 5'000m distance.
7:49 Oh, true, I forgot, Mo Farah has the Olympic double double and he got many wins even though he got defeated by Mukhtar Edris.
He is a legend 🙌
I'm convinced the 5k is his best event.
Brilliant Athlete of all time.
5:51 Ig I have a faster mile time than Jakob then?
It’s a typo, he ran 3:43.73
Nah he just is mid
@@sovietsausage1061mid? I bet not even 1% of the world has ran a 4:59.99 mile. LMFFFAAAOOO
love the ror2 bg music
Jakob has that dad strength as well 💪
He is a performer or an actor, just feeding us more attention!
Go Jakob!
amazing
I want TRP to make a video on Sifan Hassan journey of becoming Greatest of all time in Long Distance Running.
There is no competition on the men’s side in results besides Duplantis. But that is a show event with almost no competition world wide compared to running. There is probably more serious runners in one running school in Kenya alone than seriously go after pole vault all over the world
That's a good point.
Rai Benjamin scored over 1300 points 3-4 times in 2024 for the 400mh
Jakob scored over 1300 in 3 separate events however Rai is crazy to be able to do it even in one event multiple times
Kind of just seems like he’s doing this in events that aren’t regular events so they aren’t as competitive or important to runners in that range. Is he just that much better at 2000-3200m than he is at 1500 or 5000, or are they just generally weaker events?
You make a great case for Jakob. Still, I'd love to see Komen racing in 2024 shoes on a 2024 surface.
Damn!!
Cole Hocker!
Who's he ?
I don’t think jakob should be penalized for being so bold trying all these events. If you consider the events outside of the 1500 independent of the 1500, that’s a resume for winning this award
Wow
The 2k and 3k are not frequently run events. Maybe the scoring for these are “softer” compared to the standard distances. Could this explain Jakob’s 1300s?
You can see right here that the scoring table should be adjusted continuously. Even Daniel Komens legendary 7:20:67 wasn't worth 1300 points... and btw. the new HM world record of 57:30 is way off the required 57:14 o.O
He's good for sure, and possibly one of the best ever if he can just conquer one distance....the space between his ears. If he could get his head right, no one in the universe could beat him.
Jakob the goat
6:19 Josh Kerr gets a cameo 😂
Most pathetically arrogant athlete who didn't live up to his hype.
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First time for me, amazing
Bru wtf
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Happy to see Sifan Hassan on the finalists list.
Also happy to not see Lyles.
He needs to stomp home a 13.7 100m average for the 1500m to get 3:25.5 and break that 3:26 record! Obviously he is now the GOAT of 2 Miles and 2 Metric Miles, breaking Komen's records. Hicham El Guerrouj's records at 1500m and 1 mile are still holding on!
Mondo 💪🏻
Jakob should make the 5k his main event
"Except if your Jakob Ingebrigtsen"
im absolutely convinced Duplantis can jump at least 10 cm higher, but he choose to only raise the bar by 1cm pr competition because his contract gives a big bonus each time he gets a new WR.
My friend, we don’t say one thousand AND three hundred. Just one thousand three hundred. That’s it.
Am I the only one thinking the 5,000m and 10,000m races would have better marketing for the olympics if we called them 5K and 10K races?
I think you are on your own.
Isn't there quite a difference between the 5k / 10k, which would be run on the road, and the 5000 / 10 000 metres, which would be run on the track?
@@jmiscreant agreed
OMG
Only reason Mondo won’t win is because he’s won it a couple times already. But since this video talked about the World Athletics score so much, you should go look at the scores his WR’s have gotten. He is actually breaking the theoretical limits!
I think not only will the mile world record be broken soon, but I think it'll be 341 high.
On the chart/list at 5:20, why do some faster times have lower point scores? Shouldn't it be in order (faster time = higher score)?
They were set indoors.
@TotalRunningProductions can you talk about the speed vs noah lyles 50m race?
Seems to me that the 1500m is his backup race since has not won a gold medal at a global competition since 2021. He has dominated the 5000m distance...also a quick observation, he is one of the best middle distance runners in history, no question about it, however, he has yet to break a world record in an Olympic event...
probably because he is up against EPO records from the 90’s?
Sifan Hassan Marathon!!!
greatest long distance runnere bekele with 5k and 10k records and then outlandish 2 secs off kipchoge w.r. should be 1300 plus also
Just looked it up - his 5,000 is 1303, his marathon is 1302 but his 10,000m is 1295. Super close.
Not to take away from Ingebrigtsen's accomplishments, but the unusual distances would be like a sprinter running 80m, 100m 120m, 150m. That's a joke.
What? The 2000m, 3000m, and 2 mile WRs were held by all time greats.
@@boomshakalaka6493 So...I hold the world record for 2001m....
What about the Lesile Tobogo, he has to be close with 100,200,300&400
I wonder if TRP is gonna do a video on that joke of a race noah lyles and Ishowspeed had.
Why are we using points nowadays. 20 years ago all we needed to use was the time on the clock.
Even as a Kerr supporting brit, I've no problem with Jacob's perceived arrogance. He's backed it up time after time (well mostly, a few notable exceptions obviously!).
Lets not judge a man from his shortcomings but his strength. Yakob is the GOAT of middle distance running. However judging world record based on times only is outright stupidity, but aren't we ?
How can 18.90s be the theoretical 200m limit when 9.46s is the 100m limit?
doin mo dirty by showing the clip of him getting clowned by bekele
I Hope Jakob win but it will be Mondo 😊
#1
Usain Bolt also has 3 if you include 4 x 100m?
Review the Noah Lyles vs ishowspeed race
The real unique athlete was Daniel Komen. Look at the track, shoe technology and wavelength pacing. These advantages Jacob has which Komen did not have.
The theoretical limits of races are only made from biomechanical and biochemical models and assuming also a statistical regression calculation upon past records, cannot be trusted over some error. For example in 100m the theoretical fastest time is around 2% or less than actual record.
Maybe will have some surprise soon, or maybe not
Please do IShowSpeed vs Noah Lyles which happened recently
I don't get the title
really hope this channel go to straight to the point rather than a lot of "context explanation" just to make 9 minutes plus video. if you wanna talk about jakob, talk about him, if you wanna talk about olympic record, talk about olympic records. No need to make an unnecessary explanation for the sake of longer videos
At the 5 min 50 sec mark of your video, you incorrectly posted Jakob’s time at 4:43.73. You’re a minute off.
It is easy to do when your legs alone are a foot taller then everyone elses whole bodys
Yaroslava or Mondo
Even though Jacob was great, Duplantis will propably win...
its impressive that he has 3 wr in 3 categories, but is 2 miles really different enough from 3km? it´s 6% more. If we use this logic we could have had Usain bold breaking 106m and 212m WR and hold 4 WR with 1300+ score, but it sounds dumb doesnt it.
Too many words
Duplantis >> Ingebrigtsen
Mondo dominates every meet he enters. Jacob has great times once in a while but often does not consistently come out on top.
But he tripped and fell in the Paris 1500m blue ribbon event? That one race was his primary target and he failed
One race decides it all? He has had plenty of successes in the 1500 this year
@breadeater4 if you think that Olympic title ain't the pinnacle then what is?
@tonyririnui4043 jakob would won in any other way he chosed the hardest.
@RUNISFAST hard to say whether hitting the wall was a matter of choice? It was the same with Bol in the 400m hurdles. Just peaked too early and ultimately burnt out
@@tonyririnui4043 well he won the 1500 last olympics, so that is olympic peak. And everyone has their days. 4th in the olympics is not even that bad.
Mondo duplantis going for the wr having already got gold was the first time I was bought to tears , by a sporting event
Early 😊
Usain Bolt hasn't done this? 3,000 and 2 miles aren't even events you can win world or Olympic championships in. So if you're going to do that then you'd need to include the 150m as well. And when you realise bro needs to run 6 seconds faster than that to actually hit Bolts point level, you realise Bolt broke the tables😂
Probably juices 💉...and the shoes
Correct me if I missed something, but there is nothing new in this video, right?
As for JI, he is a true great but it is becoming harder to respect him as a human given the increasing number of stupid tattoos all over him, which look like some cell mate did with a needle in prison. What exactly is he thinking?
am i the only one watching these videos with absolutely no interest in this athletics scoring system stuff?
Scoring tables are crap and so are the nominations
Bolt could have done 1300+ performances in the 135m and 170m, that would be a fair equivalent to Ingebrigtsen’s non-standard event distance records
World record in an event they don't race at the Olympics or WCs is not athlete of the year worthy. His 3 consecutive 5k titles are more impressive than that.
Just wait for him to break 1300 in the mile and 1500m.
what’s the point of this video?
Glazing Jakob
He's a joke
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