I never really thought about my ideal CvS3 roster since I never played the first two games but now I can’t get the unlimited potential that is Kukri interacting with Capcom characters out of my head
I'm working on my own CVS3 roster so I've been looking around at other people's ideas and this video was really enjoyable! I'm also big on the character pairings and Q with Krohnen is such a good idea it's hard to not want to jack it for my own list lol
Nice seeing Kyo in the thumbnail. Necro vs Krohnen though. Their girlfriends could also match-up Effie vs Angel. Another match-up idea: Twelve vs Kusanagi. How about Aki vs Lin.
Necro would be a nice pick but at some point there would be too many SF/KoF picks and you have to dig into their other franchises. Like perhaps we could get Anakaris or Saturn instead of Twelve.
I totally agree with you at 5:37 bringing everyone back doesn't feel like making a new game, making a new game is to make realistic details for roster is bringing newcomers to fill in with the a medium or small original cast of characters bringing characters from the previous game is worth to try as DLC to bring back fan favorites.
Well as we know the devs recently just said that they’re open to a New Cross over game with their series of fighting games so the dances of a Capcom vs SNK 3 is quite high especially after seeing how Capcom are currently in talks with SNK and they just released SNK vs Capcom Chaos as well, the possibility is there.
That rock jacket goes hard. Also I really like your roster. It does a good job of staying true to CVS staples and adds a lot of new characters that I think are more than welcome. With all this talk about Terry is SF6 and MVC collection, it’s only a matter of time until CVS collection and CVS3. I’ve also been thinking of my own roster lately. But I think you did a much better job than I.
I fully agree with the sentiment that these crossovers didn't do enough to push the at the time games, and it wasn't just Capcom either! SNK vs Capcom had rivalries built into it's arcade ladders and character endings so you want to explain why the fuck they made Zangief's rival Haohmaru and not Tizoc? Or why Alex and K' as rivals only make a cameo if you try to play the game on the wrong system? Like someone at SNK recognized that Alex and K' would be a cool rivalry and made sprites for each of them but decided "nah, you know what we should do instead? Make a bunch of terrible minigames instead. Because THAT'S what the people want in their crossover fighting game, a bad Ghosts N Goblins minigame!"
It was nice they acknowledged some of the non-fighters at all, something taken a bit further in SvC Chaos. But to be fair, MvC was a thing so that acknowledgement wasn’t as necessary as it seemed.
I also 100% agree with your take on the fact that CVS should be more martial arts focused instead of MVC’s throw a little bit of everything in there. I made a post on Reddit about it and it seemed that a lot of people do want characters like Dante and Zero but I agree with you. I don’t want any crazy wacky characters in CVS.
Something like an MvC does have to exist to prevent CvS from becoming "throw a little bit of everything in there"; see SvC Chaos as what happens when there isn't an MvC-type game on the market (to be fair they're sub-bosses of some kind). But there is a good chance of an MvC4/7 on the horizon, so yeah. If there wasn't, I'd be much more in favor of "throw a little bit of everything", but the problem is that a lot of the non-fighting SNK characters are pretty undeveloped compared to Capcom's.
This was a awesome surprise! The roster selection was overall great! (The only ones I'd personally swap would be Ralph for Leona, and, like others in comments, Hsien-Ko for Jon Talbain. That shows how well thought-out your choices were.) Love videos like these, so if you did more fighting game content, I'd be all in!
I always feel skeptical about the idea of previously boss or hidden characters being part of a main roster. I feel like you could consider dropping Bison and Geese for something like Rolento and Kim Kaphwan and have as many unplayable bosses (under usual, arcade and vs mode circumstances) as you want. Maybe Geese, Rugal, Bison and Akuma dont have to be relegated to being normal characters and can instead be the monsters they were introduced as 🤷♂️
Once again World Heroes doesn't get any love in these type of videos 😢🥺😭 My choices would be Kotaro Fuuma, easily the most popular of the ninjas made by ADK/Alpha Denshi. For his gameplay, as much as I like his moveset in World Heroes, he should have his moveset from Aggressors of Dark Kombat. In that game, he was more unique and no longer a shoto. Speaking of Aggressors of Dark Kombat, bring back Kisarah Westfield! She appeared in Neo Geo Battle Coliseum, like her redesign in that game. As for her gameplay, as much as I like her moveset in NGBC, she should have her wrestling techniques from Aggressors. Especially a certain judo hold technique 😏😆 Fun fact, Kisarah is actually the first female character that fights wearing a high school uniform, even before Sakura
That rivalry was used in US promotion of CvS1. My ideas were to keep Guile vs. Ryo and then go with Terry vs. Megaman X (mascots) and Iori vs. Lady Dimitrescu (claw attacks), but those imply a more Marvel-like roster. Iori’s rival in most other material is Sagat.
As much as I love Capcom vs SNK 2, and it’s one of my favorite fighting games, which puts it up there as one of my favorite games of all time, I do kind of hope a Capcom vs SNK 3 is more of a Capcom vs SNK game roster wise than it is another Street Fighter vs King of Fighters game.
My (partial) Capcom vs. SNK 3 roster: CAPCOM: Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li, Guile, Blanka, Zangief, Dhalsim, E. Honda, Cammy, Sakura, Dan, Guy, Cody, Batsu, and Akira (more to come); SNK: Kyo, Terry, Mai, Ryo, Benimaru, Raiden, Kim, Chang (with Choi), King, Yuri, Joe, Ralf, Clark, Athena, and Kensou (more to come)
9:20 I think part of that is because people, not too long ago, were faced with the possibility of a new CvS, but not a new MvC, so they decided they wanted CvS, given that we already had other grounded games on the market from both companies, to be retooled to become more like MvC. Another factor is that a lot of properties only get to shine in 3-8 year intervals, if that, if not for crossovers like this. I did have a few ideas for a solution to this crossover choice dillema. 1. The currently most likely is that we get a new MvC anyway, so the problem can be utterly sidestepped. 2. Have a system of Strikers representing a more diverse variety of properties as one-and-one attacks. 3. Alternate costumes based on those other IP. Most likely everybody gets one costume from another Capcom/SNK IP. 4. Throw in some hidden/sub-boss characters like in SvC Chaos. One of my ideas was to have a hero character who would serve as a special sub boss to punish players who use villain teams.
Whoever they decide to put in the roster, I want the rivalries to make sense. The whole point in even having rivalries is so they could fight it out and see who would win. And for these fights to be worth a damn, you shouldn't already know the answer. Joe could smoke Dan with no effort, so why were they fighting on the cover of CvS Pro like they were evenly matched? And why do they keep insisting on having Terry fight Ken, who's unquestionably inferior to Ryu?
Yeah and I feel like there might be too many world warriors that could be removed in favor of more exotic choices like Gamof, Tiffany Lords, Mai-Ling, Jin Saotome, Necro, etc.
Akuma is the easiest Shoto to drop from a crossover and Rugal hasn't been relevant in ages. You can and should leave both out in favor of more important and better balanced characters.
What I never understood is why at the time of CVS2 the developers didn't put Leona Heidern in it, I mean come on a military girl when you have cammy on your side Capcom? seriously? The rivalry writes itself! Two military girls with a dark past that haunts them.
They could probably do 48 characters for a Capcom vs SNK 3. I’d assume a Capcom vs SNK 3 would work in much the same way as the previous game and reuse a bunch of characters they already have made up for Street Fighter 6... which at the moment has 23 characters, and is set to get 3 more during this second season; 2 of which are going to be SNK characters. So if a CvS3 happened after season two, they’d already have 24 Capcom characters and 2 SNK characters already in the bag. They could also go the cel shaded route, in which case they could make far simpler 3D models than Street Fighter 6 has, and in doing so make a roster that’s slightly larger. Or much larger if something like a cel shaded Marvel vs Capcom 4 comes out before it and they can reuse character models from that.
It could be made easier with other RE Engine games out there providing even more models that could be given new animations for a fighting game (SF games no longer really use oversized hands like before); the REMakes, RE7-8, Monster Hunter series, DMC5, Dead Rising Remake, etc. Plus SF6 through its character creator has pieces for even more still, including Morrigan, Felicia, Hsien-Ko, and Classic Mega Man, which could be used as a basis for Lilith & sundry other Mega Man characters.
@@austinreed7343 It wouldn’t work. The Street Fighter 6 models are still highly stylized, they may be textured more realistically than ever before, but they aren’t shooting for real looking people like Devil May Cry 5 and RE Engine Resident Evil games are. But what Street Fighter 6 does mean is, like the previous Capcom vs SNK games before it, they’d really only have to make the SNK side of the roster. With the first Capcom vs SNK Ryu, (and by extension Akuma and Ken) Dan, and M. Bison were the only new sprites on the Capcom side. The base roster for Street Fighter 6 was 18 characters, for Capcom vs SNK 1 Capcom made 20 new sprites, (22 counting Ken and Akuma) although Dan didn’t show up until Capcom vs SNK Pro. It does sound like a Capcom vs SNK 3 is going to happen in the future, so it’s kind of a wait and see situation with how they go about it. You look at something like SNK’s upcoming City of the Wolves game, and that game’s models are probably about as detailed as Marvel vs Capcom 3 models from back in 2011. The City of the Wolves models seem to be like MvC3 models with better hair when it comes to how complex they are. MVC3 had 50 characters. So it’s also possible Capcom just makes a bunch of less detail character models that still never the less look great in game instead of trying make something like 20 new characters that are as detailed as the Street Fighter 6 ones. Like it’s possible that even with the Street Fighter 6 shortcut, depending on who is in Street Fighter 6 by the time a Capcom vs SNK 3 enters development, that they could get a bigger Capcom vs SNK 3 out faster (or in the same amount of time) by not trying to match SF6 visually. MvC3 was in development for like 3 years, Street Fighter 6 was in development for like 5 years.
I like your unique take on this roster, although I think a lot of your picks are too out of left-field. With the DLC era we live in now, having 80% of CVS2’s roster is probably what’s gonna happen. And the last 20% will be newcomers. Then I’d expect the roster to grow by 12-18 characters with DLC.
I like this idea. I’m sure a lot of fans have thought of dream rosters before. I do disagree with the lack of SNK grapplers. I think Shermie and Daimon would have been cool to seen in your roster in addition with Dinosaur being there.
I can tell you this much, I was heavily entertained by this video. Good chuckles all around. Your taste in characters is awful though, never cook again.
That's why snk is better at picking thier fighters they made psycho soldier and ikari warriors into fighter. Capcom is mostly lock in street fighter they need to add more from different genre. Anyway I don't really see Kyo as rival for Ryu, Terry is better fit for it .
Nice but maybe it could use needs hidden characters, I definitely SOMEONE from Metal Slug “Fio or Eri” or B. Janet from Mark of the wolves. Also Gil vs Orochi would be to good match up or or Igniz if you like. I do agree Capcom vs SNK is ground in the ring like in a real fighting game in the genre, while Marvel vs Capcom is purposely over the top, the Air Combos is basically away to avoid being in the ring. I will miss King and Vice but updates are necessary.
Being a “real fighting game” would mean Metal Slug wouldn’t make much sense, though yes having some wackier stuff as hidden characters like SvC Chaos would be a nice compromise.
@@austinreed7343 well I mean it’s already wacky if the cast included samurais vs feisty cuffs fighters and Morrigan and Heinsko. I was thinking Clair and Jill would balance out the metal slug characters (toned down as in not calling tanks or BOWs into the ring) But definitely fits the SVC
@@icaliver RE might be a bit too dark to work in the tournament fight setting, but maybe a Roll cosplaying as Jill could be cool. Unless we dig into SNK’s cutesier mascot platformer franchises for deep cut pulls, then. (Cathy from Top Hunter)
@@austinreed7343 You know, that’s a good idea. Having alternate skins for the selected characters, I can get on board with that. It would fulfill the removed or wishlist characters. But definitely needs 4 hidden character, preferably basic Akuma(if required by Capcom) we don’t need Shin Akuma.
Really need put more obscure characters , you said hsienko, when she was in mvc3, right after dising mvc fans, could add j talbon or zabel. Should not include too many original SFII because they need give more room to other non fighting game fighters, like Gene (God Hand), Asura(asuras wrath), or just even more fighting game characters like June/Elle from Star Gladiator. The list just felt too recent, like didnt include characters that havent shown up in a long time other than Q.
Don't get me wrong, but, shouldn't characters like Akari or Tessa be treated as veterans? I know they were done by the SNK team and not the Capcom one, but I still think they count since, well, it's the same crossover series, after all. Besides, if somehow SNK did the third game instead of Capcom, it'd still be the third game, so, they deserve the credit for the roster as well.
I'm a female fighting game fan and I never see women talk about Alex. I see more women crushing on characters like Cody, Ed, Rashid, Luke, Jamie and even FANG. I have seen more gay men into Alex than women. Maybe you are taking one artist and assuming he has a big female fanbase. As someone who looks for that stuff, I'm not seeing it.
@@theopulentone1650 buddy I don't care about your gender and I didn't even know you were a man or a woman I'm just telling you that the character has a huge female fan base that's all
Yeah, but is this wish list of a game going to be in 2D pixel artwork or 3D polygons? And yes, they need to make a CvS3 and they better do it sooner rather than later.
6:25 Xiaolon or Mian would be better as Juri's rivals. However, I think Xiaolon would be better as an SNK rival for Crimson Viper. If K' had a Capcom rival, Alex would have been chosen since both are replacement protagonists of their home games.
3:04 I think Raiden or Haohmaru would be better candidates for Zangief's rivals. Raiden makes sense since he's a pro wrestler. As for Haohmaru? Both are big, buff and muscular in a way.
@@SwuadeTV Rage of the Dragons is owned by some Mexican company and Waku 7 by Sunsoft, neither of which are owned by SNK. I could see their movesets being recycled onto non-fighting game characters as a compromise and a bit of fanservice.
@austinreed7343 Yeah, as developers but they got published by companies that were under snk. Rage of the dragons IP got bought by an American pub outta Texas called piko in 2020 they said they were porting the game to current consoles but nothing as of yet.
@@SwuadeTV Yeah, so the movesets should be recycled on non-fighting game characters on either side due to those rights issues. One example would be a Rajang from Monster Hunter that plays like Maruru from Waku Waku 7.
Then put shin akuma and god rugal as secret bosses and put akuma and rugal as dlc and put the fusion of shin akuma and god rugal from god rugal ending as the ultimate secret true boss and make him unlockable once you beat him and also make shin akuma and god rugal as unlockable once you beat them as well in cvs 3
i would be happy with a snk2 remake, just let Ark System Works do the job. i know its imposible but let me dream xD btw if snk3 happend i just hope they dont fuck it up making it full 3D like SF 4,5 and 6 i just hate it. that's why i stopped playing fighting games since snk2 or mvc2. love my sprites. that's why i love Ark system works games hehe
@@sebastiandelvillarmontoya1447 the way they make it look like 2d anime/cartoon style with 3d cutscenes. games like Guilty Gear or DBFZ retain the feeling of old the old sprite fighting games, i know they are 3d but they look like cartoons, that's why i meant.
I can accept the SNK side because KOF is pretty much SNK allstars, minus last blade and metal slug. But it feel like a wasted opportunity not to include more popular titles from Capcom side. Megaman X, Resident Evil, DMC, Strider, Capt. Commando, Breath of Fire, Moster Hunter, Rival School and more Darkstalker rep.
@@Lupo32 so is darkstalker, final fight, strider, etc. Doesnt stop them from appearing in other crossover game. And apparently BoF is more popular than we thought. In recent capcom popularity poll BoF3 placed within 10
@@baby_r4gna628 They claim a new final fight is in the works !!! Darkstalkers just isn't popular with fans And yoshinori ono tried to make a 4th game happen but he no longer works for capcom. Strider had a game on ps3 , xbox360 and PC back in the 2010s. Final fight and rival schools take place in the same universe as street fighter.
Only i dont want capcom vs snk 3 to be made with the 3D Resident evil street Fighter 6 engine. It will be wack. Capcom vs snk 3 should be made with a modern handdrawn anime 2D engine pls
I never really thought about my ideal CvS3 roster since I never played the first two games but now I can’t get the unlimited potential that is Kukri interacting with Capcom characters out of my head
that guy is a manace.
I'm working on my own CVS3 roster so I've been looking around at other people's ideas and this video was really enjoyable! I'm also big on the character pairings and Q with Krohnen is such a good idea it's hard to not want to jack it for my own list lol
Nice seeing Kyo in the thumbnail.
Necro vs Krohnen though. Their girlfriends could also match-up Effie vs Angel.
Another match-up idea: Twelve vs Kusanagi. How about Aki vs Lin.
Necro would be a nice pick but at some point there would be too many SF/KoF picks and you have to dig into their other franchises. Like perhaps we could get Anakaris or Saturn instead of Twelve.
Don’t worry, I care about this
I totally agree with you at 5:37
bringing everyone back doesn't feel like making a new game, making a new game is to make realistic details for roster is bringing newcomers to fill in with the a medium or small original cast of characters bringing characters from the previous game is worth to try as DLC to bring back fan favorites.
Well as we know the devs recently just said that they’re open to a New Cross over game with their series of fighting games so the dances of a Capcom vs SNK 3 is quite high especially after seeing how Capcom are currently in talks with SNK and they just released SNK vs Capcom Chaos as well, the possibility is there.
I was meant to say “chances” not “dances” 😭🙏🏽
That rock jacket goes hard.
Also I really like your roster. It does a good job of staying true to CVS staples and adds a lot of new characters that I think are more than welcome.
With all this talk about Terry is SF6 and MVC collection, it’s only a matter of time until CVS collection and CVS3. I’ve also been thinking of my own roster lately. But I think you did a much better job than I.
there was potential to make it teams of 3 since it's cvs3
I fully agree with the sentiment that these crossovers didn't do enough to push the at the time games, and it wasn't just Capcom either! SNK vs Capcom had rivalries built into it's arcade ladders and character endings so you want to explain why the fuck they made Zangief's rival Haohmaru and not Tizoc? Or why Alex and K' as rivals only make a cameo if you try to play the game on the wrong system? Like someone at SNK recognized that Alex and K' would be a cool rivalry and made sprites for each of them but decided "nah, you know what we should do instead? Make a bunch of terrible minigames instead. Because THAT'S what the people want in their crossover fighting game, a bad Ghosts N Goblins minigame!"
It was nice they acknowledged some of the non-fighters at all, something taken a bit further in SvC Chaos. But to be fair, MvC was a thing so that acknowledgement wasn’t as necessary as it seemed.
john talbain instead of shien-ko would be a better option. the iinteractions with kod sells this idea
I also 100% agree with your take on the fact that CVS should be more martial arts focused instead of MVC’s throw a little bit of everything in there.
I made a post on Reddit about it and it seemed that a lot of people do want characters like Dante and Zero but I agree with you. I don’t want any crazy wacky characters in CVS.
Something like an MvC does have to exist to prevent CvS from becoming "throw a little bit of everything in there"; see SvC Chaos as what happens when there isn't an MvC-type game on the market (to be fair they're sub-bosses of some kind). But there is a good chance of an MvC4/7 on the horizon, so yeah. If there wasn't, I'd be much more in favor of "throw a little bit of everything", but the problem is that a lot of the non-fighting SNK characters are pretty undeveloped compared to Capcom's.
I've never played a Capcom Vs game, and yet I watched all of this. IDK, it was fun!
EDIT: I need the full version of the theme on cat keyboard!
I don’t really play fighting games, but your charisma was enough to keep me interested in this topic :P
This was a awesome surprise!
The roster selection was overall great! (The only ones I'd personally swap would be Ralph for Leona, and, like others in comments, Hsien-Ko for Jon Talbain. That shows how well thought-out your choices were.)
Love videos like these, so if you did more fighting game content, I'd be all in!
I’m surprised you didn’t include Vergil or Zero.
But I understand that this is meant to be a fighting game crossover and not characters from MvC3.
Can you imagine Terry trying to take on a Devil Trigger Vergil? His ass is NOT beating him lmao.
I believe part three is coming in the next two years! It will come have faith
Cool video. I want a game where I can play Mina Majikina VS Mai. I wonder why she wasn't in SNK Heroines.
This is a pretty great roster, Kudos!
The characters I would like to add to this are Dudley and Sagat for Capcom, Kim and Malin for SNK.
Mike Haggar and Zangief Vs KOD and Clark would be awesome
I always feel skeptical about the idea of previously boss or hidden characters being part of a main roster. I feel like you could consider dropping Bison and Geese for something like Rolento and Kim Kaphwan and have as many unplayable bosses (under usual, arcade and vs mode circumstances) as you want. Maybe Geese, Rugal, Bison and Akuma dont have to be relegated to being normal characters and can instead be the monsters they were introduced as 🤷♂️
Anything to cut down on SF2 characters.
Lots of nice choices, I’d settle for Blue Mary dlc I guesssss
SNK more wants Terry to the big cheese of SNK for Capcom vs. SNK 3.
I more want Resident Evil and Metal Slug in CVS3.
Resident evil X Metal slug
Resident Evil feels more fitting against Shadow Hearts than Metal Slug, but SNK no longer owns the former.
Now this will be epic.
This video found me and I’m happy it did!
alright how soon until we have a mugen version of this line up?
Once again World Heroes doesn't get any love in these type of videos 😢🥺😭
My choices would be Kotaro Fuuma, easily the most popular of the ninjas made by ADK/Alpha Denshi.
For his gameplay, as much as I like his moveset in World Heroes, he should have his moveset from Aggressors of Dark Kombat.
In that game, he was more unique and no longer a shoto.
Speaking of Aggressors of Dark Kombat, bring back Kisarah Westfield!
She appeared in Neo Geo Battle Coliseum, like her redesign in that game.
As for her gameplay, as much as I like her moveset in NGBC, she should have her wrestling techniques from Aggressors. Especially a certain judo hold technique 😏😆
Fun fact, Kisarah is actually the first female character that fights wearing a high school uniform, even before Sakura
ADK games as well as Capcom's sci-fi fighters were both left out, as was Buriki One.
okay but can we appreciate for a second silvery's outfit? thats a cool ass outfit! love the gloves! oh their gone whoops!
Marco would be a good adition too
Him and Mega Man (Classic) would be fun bosses if you beat the game as a villain-centered team
I would really want to see my boy Ralf make it into this fictional game
The fans of Kim's pants are disappointed
this is a pretty good list!
i would have prefered baby bonnie hood over hsien-ko but i'm biased
CVS Collection Online Edition on all platforms is just a matter of time! ✊🤩🥳🎉🎉
2:49 You got Ken's and Guile's rivals swapped around. Usually Ken and Iori would be rivals while Terry and Guile would be rivals.
That rivalry was used in US promotion of CvS1. My ideas were to keep Guile vs. Ryo and then go with Terry vs. Megaman X (mascots) and Iori vs. Lady Dimitrescu (claw attacks), but those imply a more Marvel-like roster.
Iori’s rival in most other material is Sagat.
He should have put Akuma instead of m bison
This is our fantasy football, so yeah it’s a lot of fun
Eh, personally I would substitute Hsien-Ko with Jon Talbain, but this is a fine enough list.
As much as I love Capcom vs SNK 2, and it’s one of my favorite fighting games, which puts it up there as one of my favorite games of all time, I do kind of hope a Capcom vs SNK 3 is more of a Capcom vs SNK game roster wise than it is another Street Fighter vs King of Fighters game.
My (partial) Capcom vs. SNK 3 roster: CAPCOM: Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li, Guile, Blanka, Zangief, Dhalsim, E. Honda, Cammy, Sakura, Dan, Guy, Cody, Batsu, and Akira (more to come); SNK: Kyo, Terry, Mai, Ryo, Benimaru, Raiden, Kim, Chang (with Choi), King, Yuri, Joe, Ralf, Clark, Athena, and Kensou (more to come)
Nice vid grettings from Uruguay
If Gill, then it's definitely Igniz!
If not Gill, then SF EX3 Bison II and Igniz!
Bro if Andy Bogard isn't in the first DLC for this game.....
9:20
I think part of that is because people, not too long ago, were faced with the possibility of a new CvS, but not a new MvC, so they decided they wanted CvS, given that we already had other grounded games on the market from both companies, to be retooled to become more like MvC. Another factor is that a lot of properties only get to shine in 3-8 year intervals, if that, if not for crossovers like this. I did have a few ideas for a solution to this crossover choice dillema.
1. The currently most likely is that we get a new MvC anyway, so the problem can be utterly sidestepped.
2. Have a system of Strikers representing a more diverse variety of properties as one-and-one attacks.
3. Alternate costumes based on those other IP. Most likely everybody gets one costume from another Capcom/SNK IP.
4. Throw in some hidden/sub-boss characters like in SvC Chaos. One of my ideas was to have a hero character who would serve as a special sub boss to punish players who use villain teams.
Whoever they decide to put in the roster, I want the rivalries to make sense. The whole point in even having rivalries is so they could fight it out and see who would win. And for these fights to be worth a damn, you shouldn't already know the answer. Joe could smoke Dan with no effort, so why were they fighting on the cover of CvS Pro like they were evenly matched?
And why do they keep insisting on having Terry fight Ken, who's unquestionably inferior to Ryu?
I feel like some characters having a rival from the same company could work better than giving them a nonsensical rivalry.
Terry is paired with Ken because their both martial artists who are American and blonde. That's it.
@@X_Gon_Give_It_To_Ya If they have to give Terry a blonde American to fight, Cody would be a better match.
Roster is great, I would change Krizalid for Orochi
Yeah I didn't like it, but it was fun to watch anyways, good job!.
@@VF19SExcalibur Hey I’ll take it, thanks!
this is my favorite video ever
You can't leave Akuma and Rugal out of the roster
Yeah and I feel like there might be too many world warriors that could be removed in favor of more exotic choices like Gamof, Tiffany Lords, Mai-Ling, Jin Saotome, Necro, etc.
Akuma is the easiest Shoto to drop from a crossover and Rugal hasn't been relevant in ages. You can and should leave both out in favor of more important and better balanced characters.
in 4 bosses, Gill is stronger than Krizallid, Gill Must fight against villains like Zero or Goenitz!
What I never understood is why at the time of CVS2 the developers didn't put Leona Heidern in it, I mean come on a military girl when you have cammy on your side Capcom? seriously?
The rivalry writes itself! Two military girls with a dark past that haunts them.
They could probably do 48 characters for a Capcom vs SNK 3. I’d assume a Capcom vs SNK 3 would work in much the same way as the previous game and reuse a bunch of characters they already have made up for Street Fighter 6... which at the moment has 23 characters, and is set to get 3 more during this second season; 2 of which are going to be SNK characters. So if a CvS3 happened after season two, they’d already have 24 Capcom characters and 2 SNK characters already in the bag.
They could also go the cel shaded route, in which case they could make far simpler 3D models than Street Fighter 6 has, and in doing so make a roster that’s slightly larger. Or much larger if something like a cel shaded Marvel vs Capcom 4 comes out before it and they can reuse character models from that.
It could be made easier with other RE Engine games out there providing even more models that could be given new animations for a fighting game (SF games no longer really use oversized hands like before); the REMakes, RE7-8, Monster Hunter series, DMC5, Dead Rising Remake, etc. Plus SF6 through its character creator has pieces for even more still, including Morrigan, Felicia, Hsien-Ko, and Classic Mega Man, which could be used as a basis for Lilith & sundry other Mega Man characters.
@@austinreed7343 It wouldn’t work. The Street Fighter 6 models are still highly stylized, they may be textured more realistically than ever before, but they aren’t shooting for real looking people like Devil May Cry 5 and RE Engine Resident Evil games are. But what Street Fighter 6 does mean is, like the previous Capcom vs SNK games before it, they’d really only have to make the SNK side of the roster. With the first Capcom vs SNK Ryu, (and by extension Akuma and Ken) Dan, and M. Bison were the only new sprites on the Capcom side. The base roster for Street Fighter 6 was 18 characters, for Capcom vs SNK 1 Capcom made 20 new sprites, (22 counting Ken and Akuma) although Dan didn’t show up until Capcom vs SNK Pro.
It does sound like a Capcom vs SNK 3 is going to happen in the future, so it’s kind of a wait and see situation with how they go about it. You look at something like SNK’s upcoming City of the Wolves game, and that game’s models are probably about as detailed as Marvel vs Capcom 3 models from back in 2011. The City of the Wolves models seem to be like MvC3 models with better hair when it comes to how complex they are. MVC3 had 50 characters. So it’s also possible Capcom just makes a bunch of less detail character models that still never the less look great in game instead of trying make something like 20 new characters that are as detailed as the Street Fighter 6 ones. Like it’s possible that even with the Street Fighter 6 shortcut, depending on who is in Street Fighter 6 by the time a Capcom vs SNK 3 enters development, that they could get a bigger Capcom vs SNK 3 out faster (or in the same amount of time) by not trying to match SF6 visually. MvC3 was in development for like 3 years, Street Fighter 6 was in development for like 5 years.
I like your unique take on this roster, although I think a lot of your picks are too out of left-field. With the DLC era we live in now, having 80% of CVS2’s roster is probably what’s gonna happen. And the last 20% will be newcomers. Then I’d expect the roster to grow by 12-18 characters with DLC.
I feel like some of them aren’t left-field enough; there’s still too many SF/KoF characters compared to even the other fighting games.
Mortal Kombat vs Killer Instinct
This was genuinely a really great roster, I also appreciate the female count being a lot
It hurts not seeing akuma and rugal in the roaster but the cast is good
I like this idea. I’m sure a lot of fans have thought of dream rosters before. I do disagree with the lack of SNK grapplers. I think Shermie and Daimon would have been cool to seen in your roster in addition with Dinosaur being there.
This would allow for a better variety of Capcom grapplers like R. Mika and Gamof to be included.
I can tell you this much, I was heavily entertained by this video. Good chuckles all around.
Your taste in characters is awful though, never cook again.
@@shajita Dang, I’ll take it.
I love how uncool your cool is…
@@davidtharp2125 Thanks!
That's why snk is better at picking thier fighters they made psycho soldier and ikari warriors into fighter. Capcom is mostly lock in street fighter they need to add more from different genre. Anyway I don't really see Kyo as rival for Ryu, Terry is better fit for it .
We need Shermie
It's 2024, everyone knows the main selling of this game would be Juri vs Luong, game can't exist without them both.
Nice but maybe it could use needs hidden characters, I definitely SOMEONE from Metal Slug “Fio or Eri” or B. Janet from Mark of the wolves. Also Gil vs Orochi would be to good match up or or Igniz if you like. I do agree Capcom vs SNK is ground in the ring like in a real fighting game in the genre, while Marvel vs Capcom is purposely over the top, the Air Combos is basically away to avoid being in the ring. I will miss King and Vice but updates are necessary.
Being a “real fighting game” would mean Metal Slug wouldn’t make much sense, though yes having some wackier stuff as hidden characters like SvC Chaos would be a nice compromise.
@@austinreed7343 well I mean it’s already wacky if the cast included samurais vs feisty cuffs fighters and Morrigan and Heinsko. I was thinking Clair and Jill would balance out the metal slug characters (toned down as in not calling tanks or BOWs into the ring) But definitely fits the SVC
@@icaliver
RE might be a bit too dark to work in the tournament fight setting, but maybe a Roll cosplaying as Jill could be cool. Unless we dig into SNK’s cutesier mascot platformer franchises for deep cut pulls, then. (Cathy from Top Hunter)
@@austinreed7343 You know, that’s a good idea. Having alternate skins for the selected characters, I can get on board with that. It would fulfill the removed or wishlist characters. But definitely needs 4 hidden character, preferably basic Akuma(if required by Capcom) we don’t need Shin Akuma.
@@icaliver
Yep. I feel like skins would be a good way to also incorporate a lot of non-fighters that would be OP/weird, on top of the curds
Akuma not being on the roster is my only beef.
@@Lee.52 Wave 1 DLC for sure with Rugal
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A video on the DLC waves could be cool.
Some other names to keep in mind:
Fuuma, Volnutt, Rashid, Fio, Jin, June, Kisarah…
Are you going to play KOF Final Attack?
take the Chinese vampire out of this and add Qbee and this roster would be perfect
Really need put more obscure characters , you said hsienko, when she was in mvc3, right after dising mvc fans, could add j talbon or zabel.
Should not include too many original SFII because they need give more room to other non fighting game fighters, like Gene (God Hand), Asura(asuras wrath), or just even more fighting game characters like June/Elle from Star Gladiator.
The list just felt too recent, like didnt include characters that havent shown up in a long time other than Q.
Don't get me wrong, but, shouldn't characters like Akari or Tessa be treated as veterans? I know they were done by the SNK team and not the Capcom one, but I still think they count since, well, it's the same crossover series, after all.
Besides, if somehow SNK did the third game instead of Capcom, it'd still be the third game, so, they deserve the credit for the roster as well.
I do bealive Pyron is stronger than Gill. Most of the high tier Darkstalkers are stronger than the Street fighter charecters.
It's not certain how the Darkstalkers rank system works, but the implication may be that even BB Hood is stronger than Oro is.
Yeah K' (K dash) definitely!
This I would buy
Tessa was already in SvC Chaos why can’t we play as the fighter chick everyone forgets her
Here's something else you didn't know about Alex from Street fighter III he actually has a huge female fan base
I'm a female fighting game fan and I never see women talk about Alex. I see more women crushing on characters like Cody, Ed, Rashid, Luke, Jamie and even FANG. I have seen more gay men into Alex than women. Maybe you are taking one artist and assuming he has a big female fanbase. As someone who looks for that stuff, I'm not seeing it.
@@theopulentone1650 buddy I don't care about your gender and I didn't even know you were a man or a woman I'm just telling you that the character has a huge female fan base that's all
Yeah, but is this wish list of a game going to be in 2D pixel artwork or 3D polygons? And yes, they need to make a CvS3 and they better do it sooner rather than later.
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6:25 Xiaolon or Mian would be better as Juri's rivals. However, I think Xiaolon would be better as an SNK rival for Crimson Viper. If K' had a Capcom rival, Alex would have been chosen since both are replacement protagonists of their home games.
My idea was Shermie vs Juri, both are the most prominent female villains in each main fighting game series.
Imagine having no leona or heidern
Nah, drop Blanca and use SF1 LEE instead!
I feel like the ship has sailed concerning the remaining 5 SF1 characters, sadly. They've been powercrept out of relevancy it seems.
3:04 I think Raiden or Haohmaru would be better candidates for Zangief's rivals. Raiden makes sense since he's a pro wrestler. As for Haohmaru? Both are big, buff and muscular in a way.
I had an idea for Haohmaru’s rival to be Zero (MMZ), but that implies a more Marvel-type roster.
Based Darli Dagger fan
What about B.B.Hood? She should be in the roster. 😃❤️💯👍🏾🧕
Must be Akuma= Iori
Nah, not Tessa again....take Mai-Ling!
Nice vid, SON! I've liked it though I don't like your roster... XDDDDDDDDDDD 👍
Snk got power instinct, rage of the dragons, 3 count bout, waku waku 7 & and capcom got Saturday night slam masters which needs a new game
Actually, most of those aren’t SNK IPs.
@austinreed7343 yes but they're all under the snk umbrella, tho so it's possible. One can wish, except power instinct that's sega
@@SwuadeTV
Rage of the Dragons is owned by some Mexican company and Waku 7 by Sunsoft, neither of which are owned by SNK. I could see their movesets being recycled onto non-fighting game characters as a compromise and a bit of fanservice.
@austinreed7343 Yeah, as developers but they got published by companies that were under snk. Rage of the dragons IP got bought by an American pub outta Texas called piko in 2020 they said they were porting the game to current consoles but nothing as of yet.
@@SwuadeTV
Yeah, so the movesets should be recycled on non-fighting game characters on either side due to those rights issues. One example would be a Rajang from Monster Hunter that plays like Maruru from Waku Waku 7.
A crossover without Akuma? That's BS!
Cut Dan replace him with Akuma then itd perfect
Then put shin akuma and god rugal as secret bosses and put akuma and rugal as dlc and put the fusion of shin akuma and god rugal from god rugal ending as the ultimate secret true boss and make him unlockable once you beat him and also make shin akuma and god rugal as unlockable once you beat them as well in cvs 3
i would be happy with a snk2 remake, just let Ark System Works do the job. i know its imposible but let me dream xD btw if snk3 happend i just hope they dont fuck it up making it full 3D like SF 4,5 and 6 i just hate it. that's why i stopped playing fighting games since snk2 or mvc2. love my sprites. that's why i love Ark system works games hehe
Arc Sys games are still full 3D
@@sebastiandelvillarmontoya1447 the way they make it look like 2d anime/cartoon style with 3d cutscenes. games like Guilty Gear or DBFZ retain the feeling of old the old sprite fighting games, i know they are 3d but they look like cartoons, that's why i meant.
Jedah i am suprised he isnt in any of the cvs series
If you're going to make it 3D (2.5D), please don't bother making CvS3, Capcom. 2D is the ONLY way to go.
I can accept the SNK side because KOF is pretty much SNK allstars, minus last blade and metal slug.
But it feel like a wasted opportunity not to include more popular titles from Capcom side. Megaman X, Resident Evil, DMC, Strider, Capt. Commando, Breath of Fire, Moster Hunter, Rival School and more Darkstalker rep.
I have an idea; if you beat the game as a villain-centered team, you fight a heroic boss from outside the fighting genre as a sort of punishment.
Breath of fire is a dead series....
Bof 5 and Bof 6 was the nail in the coffin
@@Lupo32 so is darkstalker, final fight, strider, etc. Doesnt stop them from appearing in other crossover game.
And apparently BoF is more popular than we thought. In recent capcom popularity poll BoF3 placed within 10
@@baby_r4gna628
They claim a new final fight is in the works !!!
Darkstalkers just isn't popular with fans
And yoshinori ono tried to make a 4th game happen but he no longer works for capcom.
Strider had a game on ps3 , xbox360 and PC back in the 2010s.
Final fight and rival schools take place in the same universe as street fighter.
@@Lupo32 Nice! I'm good as long as they keep Guy as one of the playable. Kimberly existence is worrying because how similar their playstyle is
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Instead of Darkstalkers again, take Rival Schools!
Only i dont want capcom vs snk 3 to be made with the 3D Resident evil street Fighter 6 engine. It will be wack. Capcom vs snk 3 should be made with a modern handdrawn anime 2D engine pls
either zangief or haggar , i would replace zangief with other character
There too many characters to choose from, but I just found 2 in your roster that I would play, and am already bored of using them...
I WANT LI XIANGFEI AND SHION
Guile = Heidern
Shizuka gave me ptsd
Take blanka out and put in Yun.
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