Someone mentioned that the Vedic devatas have disappeared. But even today in the Trikala Sandhyavandanam, all the Vedic devatas are worshiped. Mitra, Varuna, Agni, Indra are all there. Farmers still do puja to Indra every year. The morning Sandhyavandana, Mitra is the main devata. The yagnas still are Vedic, and Agni is the deity who is worshiped. Also one must remember that Advaita vedanta is also an interpretation of the Vedas (one of the darshanas) so the concept of Brahman, and the Purusha and Prakriti of Sankhya is also derived from the Vedas. So the Vedic devatas are of a different kind.
Devyaani Temple & Kund near Devyani sarovar at Saambhar lakeruclips.net/video/kx3FTWN6j7w/видео.html.Devyani mother of yadu & Turvasu clan,Wife of King Yayati,Doughter of sage Shukracharyaas.Devyani Sarovar
Hello Shankar, this is Shashi (Bmc78) from USA. I accidentally saw your video within 4 hours of releasing it. Am I lucky or what?. I quite often watch these kinds of show on Hinduism. RUclips knowing my choices & liked videos brought your video to my attention. Interesting, Unique & V. good production. BMC78/Shashi, USA
the dravida kingdom was in the kanchipuram area in tamil nadu, Puranas mentions that manu meets the matsya avatar in kritamala river, which is the sanskrit name for vaigai river. The athiyaman kings who ruled northern tamil nadu in the 3rd century bce, called themselves as satyaputra, which means descendent of king satyavrata who is also known as vaivaswata manu.
For those who want to study,the topic is interesting.But unfortunately presentation is poor,i.e.titles , inaudible voice etc.Which dilutes the importance of subject. On same subject Dr.Mugdha Gadgil is having clarity.
Yezdi people also Druz are possibly branch of Atharvan who migrated from saraswati basin after they were held responsible for disappearance of saraswati river due to their experiments.
I believe this too, because the Yazidis and the Druzes believe in reincarnation and this belief in reincarnation most likely has an Indian/Hindu origin.
@@zoranznidaric4518 yeah but we indians don't associate ourselves with Europeans.. we might have had common Ancestors thousands of years ago.. but our identity, Civilization, history, ethnicities and now culture is very different. Europe Is a different continent altogether.
@@zoranznidaric4518 and I don't know which Aryans ( Indo Europeans) Theory u support.. most of the scholars ( genetic,linguistic,archaeological) support the Aryans Migration Theory...but I wouldn't say it was Sanatana Hindu Dharma.. because we have very different gods now.. Mahabharata and Ramayana, Puranas and Brahma,Vishnu,shiva. We don't find that in European Mythologys. So it was basically the Vedic Parallels ( greek,Roman,celtic,norse,slavic etc)
@@adityaraj2447 because Indo-Europeans are probably in majority, Danavas. They were not much into vedic-agamic rituals as other groups that stayed in India.
Kindly improve the audio quality! Also, I hope you can arrange for a discussion between Nilesh Oak and the other 3102bce-promoters of the mahabharata war. This back and forth has been occurring for a very long time. I'm not pushing for a conclusion, but it's worth at least one discussion between the two "clans"!
I beg to differ woth speaker on 1 minor point. Indians in Greece by Pococke was written 200 years ago. Ionians when returned as yavan were coming back to India. Yadu to Israel I dont think so. But Arya in Anatolia is fact. Similarly in central asia i.e. Uttar kuru(Uigur) and uttar madra (north of bahlika/balkh).
Devyaani Temple, Devyaani Sarovar,Sambhar lake ruclips.net/video/kx3FTWN6j7wD/видео.htmlevyani Mother of Yadu &Turvasu clan 👈👈 it's mean Devyani,Shukracharya live at Sambhar, Pushkar lake areas
The oldest Greek writers, observes Sir William Jones, allow that their mythologies were not their own invention (As. Res. III. 467) ; and it is now certain that the early divinities and legends of Greece were the same that were possessed by their brethren in India. If Hegel calls the discovery of the common origin of Greek and Sanskrit the discovery of a new world, the same may be said with regard to the common origin of Greek and Sanskrit mythology “ The legends of the Old Testament - Thomas Lumisden Strange.
Lord Shiva has been worshipped on this planet since time immemorial. If you are saying Shiva was not I'm Veda then you are utterly wrong. He has so many names like " Vaidyanath, Mahadev, Tripurantak, Sadashivaay, vishweshwaraay, neelkanthay, trikaalagni bhavaay , Sarveshwaraay etc.
Shiva was not worshipped by vedic people the rudra means subh is mentioned in veda not lord shiva. Veda is not central to Hinduism yes it has great contribution 👍 no doubt but is not the only thing describing Hinduism, hindu dharma is an amalgamation of many local, regional, multiplie traditions spreading across Indian subcontinent.
@@punyashloka4946 True..Hinduism integrated lot of local/tribal deities etc into the fold. Example Sabrimala was a tribal forest God to cure seprent bites, etc and was then elevated to Hindu God as Shiva's son..same with many such deities.
Nilesh oak talk lot of nonsense the date he described is not possible and not realistic, no archeological evidence for his claims 🙄 49, 000 years you people need to get practical .
@@punyashloka4946 they have found archeological evidence of humans cooking fish 700000 years ago, not to mention certain tools, pottery and evidence of humans even much before that.. Your mind is limited, history is much more complex than you think.
Some Scholars have identified the ethnic origins of the various western opponents; Dasas- Dahae (West Turkmenistan), Parthava/ Pruthus - Parthians (North-Eastern Iran), Paarsu/ Paarsava- Persians (south-West Iran), Simyu- Sairima (Afghanistan), Madra - Medes or Mada (North-West Iran), Alina - Alan (South -West Russia, Ukraine), Alina - Hellene (Greece), Paktha - Pakhtoon, Bhalana - Baloch, Siva- Khiva/Xiva (Uzbekistan), Visanin - Pishachin (North-Eastern Nuristan), Simyu - Sarmatian, Vairna- Vaikarta (Afghanistan), Kavasa ia an Avestan name so is Kavi Chayamana
Very good description of subject by Dr Kashyap,thanks. I’m looking forward for the deciphering of Devlok and Indus script,though both are assumed to be very different,hope Dr will put more light on it. Finally we should emphasise to use and put the Hindu names of Gods and persons properly,by not adding a at the end of word like westerners,like Ram not Rama..Thanks..
Devyaani temple,Devyani live at Devyani lake/Sarovar,Devyani Mother of Yadu & Turvasu clan ruclips.net/video/kx3FTWN6j7w/видео.html ...Wife of King Yayati, Mother of Yadu & Turvasu clan,Doughter of Shukracharya . Devyaani kund Saambhar,Jaipur, Rajasthan
Techtonic plate story in purana ruclips.net/video/u9ZEoJhb0KM/видео.html 👈👈🤔Dhandhumar story ,Dhandhumar>Dhundhad>Dhundh Rakshas land,Dhundhad Around Saambhar lake areas
If you know Hindi, you can read the Hindi translation by Swami Dayananda Saraswathi. Entire set of all Veda-s available in Amazon. You can also buy selected books too. For a detailed philosophical understanding you can read Sri Aurobindo's 'The secret of the Vedas' , 'Upanishads'.
@1:15:26 the question about Rig Veda harping on King Sudas family I think has been answered by Shrikant Talageri. Where he posits that RigVeda is written by the Puru tribe and from their perspective, Sudas is from the Puru tribe.
Rigveda has a mention of Saraswati river , in present tense. It means it was a full fledged river. And as far as archeology is concerned it dried up 8000 years ago, than I am certain it was written by kuru kings came down post Ramayan. Post sarawasti drying up. This is a wrong presentation of true history. Independent search has to stop and official govt searches , excavation and dating methods had to be utilised
@@shubhangagarwal925 Rigveda has 10 mandalas, the older books do talk about it in present tense. Not sure about the latter books. Mahābhārata depicts not only Balarāma’s pilgrimage along those banks, but how the final dreadful battle between Bhīma and Duryodhana took place ‘on the southern side of the Sarasvatī’, on a spot selected because ‘the ground there was not sandy'
Kashyap ji, what about another reason. Maybe, the loss of Saraswati waters led to a severe constriction of the population. The trauma may have been such that the luxuriant environment needed for being a reader and thinker disappeared. There may have been a quanti and quali drop, numbers and capacity of people who could read and discuss the vedas. Is it possible that it was too huge a body of knowledge and needed many people to make it thrive?Rather than being not allowed to read the veda/ learn sanskrit etc??.....
What are these guys reading? Griffith? 7.18.6,7 for example, in which Griffith enumerates the so-called "10 tribes" - Anavas, Simyu, Bhrgus, Druhyus, Paktas, Bhalanas, Alinas, Vishanin, Shivas, Trutsu are all generic terms. And "arya" is "jo yuddhvidhi mein kushal"! Verse 7 in fact reads in bhavarth as follows: Hey rajan. Jo tapasvi purusharthi vakta jan uttam rupwale mangal jinke acharan yuddh vidhya me kushal aryajan aapko jis-jis ka upadesh de, us-us ko upramat hote hue sada taano, arthath sarvadaiva uska acharan karo. Where are the tribes? It is the 10 virtues of kings! How can the Veda contain itihasa? The western extent of Bharatvarsh was the Alps as confirmed by the Ramayana. And Mandala 7 contains some of the oldest of the RgVed songs, which puts them well beyond 20,000 BCE conservatively. What "race of Aryans" existed then? Or even later according to the colonial fake narratives? Paktas for example is "jo pak vidya me kushal". F**king cooks! So, you take some generic terms from a poem that is potentially 20,000 years old, associate that to lineages of kings that are of the period between 5k-10k BCE, then link that to ruins of two Indus settlements dated to 1500 BCE, and come up with a historic timeline of a series of battles? I think we need to take a serious look at traditional scholarship in this country.
A number of prominent religious figures said, including Sri Aurobindo that the incidents mentioned in the Vedas are symbolic, not historical. Only Sayana interpreted these as historical, but he was opposed by all others.
Time line is not clear. Dasharajna yuddha is mentioned in 7th mandala of Rigveda. That means this part of Rigveda is composed after the war. Sudasa is 18 generations after Bharata. Does it mean these parts of Rigveda did not exist during earlier kings (Bharata, Nahusha, Manu etc). But it is also mentioned that 7th mandala is the oldest.
@sangam talks please also publish or upload you videos in small clips of 20 min or 10 mins complited in a playlist as its tough for a lot of viewers to watch in whole video in one go of 1.5 hours and many people who are interested in topic just leave it after watching duration of video. Or else you can upload main main point of video in small small clips it will attract young audience attention as well as create a curiosity among them as well.
People who are interested will watch even if it is a 3 hour video; you can stop after 20 mins and later start it from where you left it; youtube has faclity of playlist, video history, downloading, etc.... so there is no need for short videos; infact people like me who listen to these videos as podcasts may find the longer format to be better.
Not sure if that would relate contextually. I am still listening to the Q&A sessions. Dr. Kashyap's thesis appears to be entirely related to past historic events described and inferred, while Acharya Agnivrat's thesis focuses more on sub-atomic effects and causation relating to the initial state of the entire Universe and beyond spanning much of particle physics including quantum mechanics and string theory. While one train of thought is literal the other is highly abstract, both involving several assumptions. But it might be fascinating. Any discussion among scholars, illuminating as they would be, is definitely worth listening to, because the real truth still evades everyone. Even the Rg Veda says so ... इयं विसृष्टिर्यत आबभूव यदि वा दधे यदि वा न । यो अस्याध्यक्षः परमो व्योमन्त्सो अङ्ग वेद वा न वेद ॥
Where is the proof of Aryan race , Arya was a surname carried by kings and people alike. You call it itihas yet Aryan is a Colonial term. Show me proof of Arya in rigved I challenge you
SOS Question please - As we believe both Ramayan and Mahabharat really happened why we're able to find material proofs of only Ramayan like 'Ramsetu, Ravana's caves in Sri Lanka etc' though it happened much before Mahabharat? Please respond. Namaste. Jai Sriram. 🇮🇳
There is ample proof of Dwarka , Hastinapur etc. Many of the pilgrimage sites mentioned in Tirtha Yatra upa parva like Pushkar , Somnath , etc still exist today.
In Gulf of Kambhat there is an evidence of a city with palaces submerged in water . You can read the research paper where you can see similarities to Dwarka mentioned in Mahabharat
We were told by our elders that saptharshis lived throughout the manvantaras. they merged with the creator at the end of the manvantara and new set of saptharshis were given the duty of creating the world. in that case is it possible the vashista and vishwamitra are the same people ?
I dont agree with speaker Rig veda wasn't allowed for non brahmin jatis. Varna firstly were work based. So those who did were brahmins and not brahmins only read vedic sanskrit. Its like putting cart before the horse. No one opposes arya samaj. These jati hierrarchy were modern phenomenon (KS LAL:Growth of ST and castes in mideval India), solidified by Risley census. Though I agree with his OIT observations.
Probably the war was between fire worshiping Aryas ( who controlled agricultarists) and non fire worshipping Asuras and Aryans who were jealous of Sudasa . Asuras basically lived off forests and hated agriculturists who worshipped fire & who burnt vast stretches of forest. Asuras putting off yagna fires and beating up rishis who performed yagnas in forests is commonly described in all scriptures
SITAKALYANA of RAMAYANA has been KALACHAKRA dated by Nilesh Oak to 12209 BCE on the basis of about 200 observations of events in the epic itself. These dates are iron clad and can date the ancient event to the day because the solar system is a giant clock in the night sky and the slow wobble of the earth is well known which moves the pole stars in a circle very slowly over a period of 26000 years. Almost all prehistoric dates are wrong. Rg Veda is before Ramayana. There is no KALACHAKRA date for DASHARAAGNA war yet. It is after Rg Veda before Ramayana. Mahabharata itself is dated similarly by Oak to 5561 BCE, the date of Bhisma nirvana. Even that is much older than the date of the ridiculous Aryan Invasion Theory cooked up by Max Muller! The earth was not created by the Christian god 6000 years ago! Goblike Tepe in Turkey, a henge for funerary rituals has much in common with Rg Veda rituals of the dead, MOHENJADARO of the Indus Valley phase, Egyptian Mesas or flat topped pyramids, regular pyramids of Egyptians fascinated with death, Sumerian civilization, Druid henges, all really old civilizations, typically 16,000 years ago, discussed by Vijayabhaarati.
The Dasarajna war that I read says that Sudhas was from Paras (Persia aka Iran which makes him an Aryan). Mesopotamia, Greece, probably Egypt, Gandhar, Pakhtoonistan, Uzbekistan, IVC on the banks of river Sarawathy (which was flowing) & 2 more countries participated. Bharata's descendants Purus fought from IVC. Sudhas won the war & declared that he has not fought to make people his slaves or change them in any way. They can follow their own worship to their own Gods in their own temples & are free to follow their own culture & civilisation as they want. Persian History says that Cyrus of Persia fought a war with 9 other kings & won it. He told the same words to the conquered people that they can follow whatever they were doing & he is not going to enslave them or convert them in any way. So today's Persian History & Dasarajna war described in Rig Veda matches perfectly except for the names. Unfortunately by falsifying the "Aryan invasion theory" blabbered by the British to show themselves as superior, today Indians have started denying the AIT. Parasrama (citizen of Paras aka Persia aka Iran) invaded India & killed all the kshatriyas & created 3 rivers with their blood - Mahabharatha Adi Parv. We cannot ignore that. Sorry. During Ramayana, Shiva was worshiped as God by Ravana, Mandodari & Ram-Lakshman. While the Sethu bandhana was going on, Rama made a Shivaling with clay & conducted the Mrithyunjaya Homa by chanting the mantra that Markandeya chanted. That place is in Rameshwaram (Ram + Ishwar) & a huge temple with beautiful gopurams (temple towers, South Indian style) stands there.
Parashu means battle axe in Sanskrit. Parashuram’s entire story is told in detail in Valmiki Ramayana. There is no reference to that he came from another land or country which was not Bharat. He was not a conquere but was killing corrupt Kshatriyas to reestablish dharma. Why are you making up stuff when it is all clearly elucidated in the Valmiki Ramayana, Mahabharata, and various Puranas such as Vishnu Purana. There is no evidence to support AIT. It was clearly fabricated by Max Mueller to fit the British Colonial agenda and Christian/biblical dogmas.
You read delusional books. Sudas is from Bharata clan which existed in India. Parasuram is from India. Paras refers to Axe. Which was his weapon. Parasuram's killing of Kshatriyas might be the invasion of Europe and central Asia.
Why do people say Sanskrit is an ancient but not a living language? The epic RAAMAYANA has the KAALACHAKRA date 12209 BCE and the SAMSKRTA language follows all PAANINI’s rules. Unless PAANINI could travel in time to RAAMAYANA days his grammar rules of ASTAADHAAYI were known before RAAMAYANA and SAMSKRTA was frozen to be changeless. It looks strange that a language couldn’t change over such a long period of time but there it is. RAAMAYANA is fully understandable today by anyone. As for as living language is concerned, commentaries of Vedic texts were done in the near past ,say before Islamic raids in about 1000 CE. MAHAABHAARATA is similarly dated to 5561BCE with a huge gap of about 12,000 years. Rg Veda was already known by RAAMAYANA and if these dates are correctly derived, where would the DASHARAAGNA war fit in this timeline?
What an uneducated question. (1) Ahsvamedha avoids wa if the tribute is paid, and war ensues only if tribute is not paid. And we know during the Horses roaming many kings would just pay the tribute. (2) Ashvamedha did not change the King of the land but only his aligance to the Chakarvartin. This was important to ties the region in to single thread in case of external aggression. Even if war ensued, the population was not molested. The questioner and responder both seem not to pay attention to the details.
In western nepal lodged in the high remote mountains stays the culture where war is celebrated and you won't believe god indra is their main god as Mosto . not much is studied there so i would request any vedic scholar to do some research on it .
Talk about Hindu chronology. For example: ramayanam took place at the end of dwapara yugam but modern calculations tell it is about 10000bc like that. Please talk about it to remove the ambiguity.
Honestly, the audio is not CLEAR at all!!!, it seems a good presentation but the audio ruined it. nothing verbal is clear. had trouble learning anything.
Sir, you must change ur accent it's like foriegn imported lecturer like those libral manes, don't expose urself like a max meular type hinphobic maleech, If you want to mention the Puran or upanishad be pronounced correctly & respectfully.
Sur / Asur means . Sur are well developed and well tuned with Nature.where as the Asuras are people crude and underdeveloped sensually and socially.. We get live examples even today . Unfortunately they are all invariably politicians... including the successful ones .. No real and pure Sur gets into contraversies and useless debates
Indra is ब्रह्म। इद्र is रुद्र। उपेन्द्र /Indrānuj (Visnu Vamana) Indra is Guru Brhaspati। With the Maruts ( Ref Taittiriya Navagraha Sutra) Indra is Shukra with इन्द्राणी। Indra is also Skanda (इन्द्राग्नी) don't forget इन्द्रवायू and ofc Indra as supreme सूर्य रवींद्र। And ofc Indra is the greatest SomaDrinker so no doubt Chandra has everything to do with Indu। Rudra and Indra are most related tho
Dating the Dasrajna war to 3000 BCE is foolish at best. So when was Ramayan and Mahabharat? It is said the ancestor of Sri Ram in Dasrajna war was some 30+ generations past.
Aryans, derived from the original Sanskrit word Arya, means cultivated educated person, according to Sri Aurobindo, used to have very high moral standard with great regard for truth, promise and hospitality. Their sages, or Rishis, after many years of meditations and learning, derived some great ideas or hymns(Riks) on God and universe. Recent DNA evidence shows that Europe experienced a massive population influx from the east, beginning around 4,500 years from the present. Several haplo-groups were involved in this expansion, including the Indian-origin R1a1a. This was almost a total replacement event, which indicates that Indo-Aryans, among others, expanded westward into Europe and to a large extent replaced indigenous European males and their Y-chromosome strata (Sharma and his associates, 2009) This genetic evidence indicates that several Y-chromosomal (patrilineal) lineages, one of which was the Indian-origin R1a1a, gave rise to the modern European population. Out of these lineages, R1a1a is the most widespread and numerous. Recent DNA evidence shows that Europe experienced a massive population influx from the east, beginning around 4,500 years from the present. Several haplo-groups were involved in this expansion, including the Indian-origin R1a1a. This was almost a total replacement event, which indicates that Indo-Aryans, among others, expanded westward into Europe and to a large extent replaced indigenous European males and their Y-chromosome strata (Sharma and his associates, 2009) This genetic evidence indicates that several Y-chromosomal (patrilineal) lineages, one of which was the Indian-origin R1a1a, gave rise to the modern European population. Out of these lineages, R1a1a is the most widespread and numerous. It proves that: 1. The R1a haplogroup originated in India. 2. The Indo-Aryan people have lived in India for at least 15,450 years, which invalidates the theory that the Indo-Aryans invaded India 3,500 years ago. 3. The hundreds of millions of members (possibly over a billion) of the R1a family living across the world today - a very large fraction of humanity - are all descended from one single male ancestor who lived in India at least 15,450 years ago. This discovery demonstrates the close genetic (and hence linguistic and cultural) affinity of Indians with the Russian and Polish people, the Vikings and Normans, and with the ancient Scythians and Tocharians, among many others (Sharma et al, 2009). References: Sharma S., 2009, The Indian origin of paternal haplogroup R1a1* substantiates the autochthonous origin of Brahmins and the caste system. Journal of Human Genetics, 54, 47-55 Sarker, A., A., Deshpande , A., Mukherjee, M. K., Bera,, B., Das, N., Juyal, P., Morthekai, R. D. , Deshpande, V. S., Shinde, V., & Rao, L. S., 2016, Oxygen isotope in archaeological bioapatites from India: Implications to climate change and decline of Bronze Age Harappan civilization, Nature, Scientific Reports volume 6, Article number: 26555.
@@adwaitvedant3297 the vivashana comes in Mahabharata, the gaggar digging and layer and water content analysis place it at 3000. But full fleded analysis of whole river bed starting from Himalayas to sindh sagar shows the drying happened slowly not abruptly. The archeological evidence of full-fledged civilization from rakhigari it self is of 8000 year. Astronomical observations like vega as pole star, samvatsara starting at krithika all modeled back beyond 17000 year....
Pandava brothers and kaurava brothers were not even blood relations! Pandavas were not even children of Pandu. Neither Dhritarashtra nor Pandu was a descendant of Bharata. They were kshatriyas only through their mothers. Adoption is fine for continuity of a kingdom but let's get the genetics right.
.....you could have taken references for Sarasvati ( ruclips.net/video/zsY4Biuzras/видео.html ) going down from Sri. Nilesh Oak. Time line I think is still comprising to west historians.
there is no Aryans. that is bullshit. The word just means civilized or Noble. Every group would call another who they think of lesser as mleccha or dasyu. It has nothing to do with race, and more with ethnic culture of a tribe/region.
Well most of the scholars ( genetics, Linguistic, archaeological) support the Aryans migration Theory.. Out of india theory is supported by very less people. Only science can solve this.
@@adityaraj2447 yes. I didnt say anything about migration. I just say 'aryan' is not race or group. the word just means noble or wise or civilized. It is obvious that many people have migrated into India for 1000s of years.
The good Dr should keep to fixing bones than doing half-baked research and presenting fiction. Why is Sangam talks bringing Phonies like him and Niraj on this platform? You are diluting the quality of discourse
Someone mentioned that the Vedic devatas have disappeared. But even today in the Trikala Sandhyavandanam, all the Vedic devatas are worshiped. Mitra, Varuna, Agni, Indra are all there. Farmers still do puja to Indra every year. The morning Sandhyavandana, Mitra is the main devata. The yagnas still are Vedic, and Agni is the deity who is worshiped. Also one must remember that Advaita vedanta is also an interpretation of the Vedas (one of the darshanas) so the concept of Brahman, and the Purusha and Prakriti of Sankhya is also derived from the Vedas. So the Vedic devatas are of a different kind.
There is a left wing anti Hindu note to the questions
Very informative. Thanks
Devyaani Temple & Kund near Devyani sarovar at Saambhar lakeruclips.net/video/kx3FTWN6j7w/видео.html.Devyani mother of yadu & Turvasu clan,Wife of King Yayati,Doughter of sage Shukracharyaas.Devyani Sarovar
Gaalav Rishi Taposthali ,Galta ji jaipur ruclips.net/video/UhYM7nY5X_4R/видео.htmlajsthan
Gayatri temple, Gayatri wife of Brahma, Pushkar lake,Ajmer ruclips.net/video/yKVSzNx84EA/видео.html
Nilesh Neelkant Oak ji and probably Dr Raj Vedam also talk at length about these🙏🏻🙏🏻👍👍
Can u link those talks please sir
Most awaited and interesting topic
It was an amazing Q&A. Thank you to all the people who asked such good questions as well 🙏🙏❤️❤️ Special thanks to the great Dr Elst cameo
It was very good exposure about our past. Thank you Sangam
Hello Shankar, this is Shashi (Bmc78) from USA. I accidentally saw your video within 4 hours of releasing it. Am I lucky or what?. I quite often watch these kinds of show on Hinduism. RUclips knowing my choices & liked videos brought your video to my attention.
Interesting, Unique & V. good production.
BMC78/Shashi, USA
Great discussion. More strengths to you
Rig Veda was written near Naimishranya near lucknow in UP. Every hindu should visit it
None of the Vedas were written. All of them were composed orally.
Rigveda belong to bank of Saraswati somewhere between hariyana or punjab
the dravida kingdom was in the kanchipuram area in tamil nadu, Puranas mentions that manu meets the matsya avatar in kritamala river, which is the sanskrit name for vaigai river. The athiyaman kings who ruled northern tamil nadu in the 3rd century bce, called themselves as satyaputra, which means descendent of king satyavrata who is also known as vaivaswata manu.
Good info, it shows how connected India is..north, south, east, west..
For those who want to study,the topic is interesting.But unfortunately presentation is poor,i.e.titles , inaudible voice etc.Which dilutes the importance of subject.
On same subject Dr.Mugdha Gadgil is having clarity.
Yezdi people also Druz are possibly branch of Atharvan who migrated from saraswati basin after they were held responsible for disappearance of saraswati river due to their experiments.
I believe this too, because the Yazidis and the Druzes believe in reincarnation and this belief in reincarnation most likely has an Indian/Hindu origin.
Please Sangam ,improve the audio and the subtitling also.
YESS! Big topic!!! It was probably mentioned in Mitrani inscription too. But people will still say that Vedas are mythology.
Very good knowledge of Das Rajan War .Dr Kashayap should have written a book about this.
Recent claims like Vedveer Arya :
11250 BCE King Sudass and Dasrajana war
great work.
Amazing!!!!
Thank you so much!
I always tell people in Croatia ... Sanathana Hindu Dharma is first culture, religion, science, way of life in Euro-Asian continent !
Well it's not the first.. before Indo European Migrations there was the original Europeans culture which we know very little about.
@@adityaraj2447 it is not relevant now ... Indo-European genome is more than 85 % in the Europe.
@@zoranznidaric4518 yeah but we indians don't associate ourselves with Europeans.. we might have had common Ancestors thousands of years ago.. but our identity, Civilization, history, ethnicities and now culture is very different. Europe Is a different continent altogether.
@@zoranznidaric4518 and I don't know which Aryans ( Indo Europeans) Theory u support.. most of the scholars ( genetic,linguistic,archaeological) support the Aryans Migration Theory...but I wouldn't say it was Sanatana Hindu Dharma.. because we have very different gods now.. Mahabharata and Ramayana, Puranas and Brahma,Vishnu,shiva.
We don't find that in European Mythologys.
So it was basically the Vedic Parallels ( greek,Roman,celtic,norse,slavic etc)
@@adityaraj2447 because Indo-Europeans are probably in majority, Danavas. They were not much into vedic-agamic rituals as other groups that stayed in India.
Kindly improve the audio quality! Also, I hope you can arrange for a discussion between Nilesh Oak and the other 3102bce-promoters of the mahabharata war. This back and forth has been occurring for a very long time. I'm not pushing for a conclusion, but it's worth at least one discussion between the two "clans"!
ज्ञान मिल रहा है.परंतु सुनने वाले 58 हे बहोत दुख हुआ.sanatani
I beg to differ woth speaker on 1 minor point. Indians in Greece by Pococke was written 200 years ago. Ionians when returned as yavan were coming back to India. Yadu to Israel I dont think so. But Arya in Anatolia is fact. Similarly in central asia i.e. Uttar kuru(Uigur) and uttar madra (north of bahlika/balkh).
Really great enlightening video Sir !
Hail Sanatan Dharma
Devyaani Temple, Devyaani Sarovar,Sambhar lake ruclips.net/video/kx3FTWN6j7wD/видео.htmlevyani Mother of Yadu &Turvasu clan 👈👈 it's mean Devyani,Shukracharya live at Sambhar, Pushkar lake areas
The oldest Greek writers, observes Sir William Jones, allow that their mythologies were not their own invention (As. Res. III. 467) ; and it is now certain that the early divinities and legends of Greece were the same that were possessed by their brethren in India. If Hegel calls the discovery of the common origin of Greek and Sanskrit the discovery of a new world, the same may be said with regard to the common origin of Greek and Sanskrit mythology “ The legends of the Old Testament - Thomas Lumisden Strange.
Lord Shiva has been worshipped on this planet since time immemorial. If you are saying Shiva was not I'm Veda then you are utterly wrong.
He has so many names like " Vaidyanath, Mahadev, Tripurantak, Sadashivaay, vishweshwaraay, neelkanthay, trikaalagni bhavaay , Sarveshwaraay etc.
Arey bhai SHIV bhagwaan was worshipped as RUDRA in vedas .....
@@technoyamraj ok
Shiva was not worshipped by vedic people the rudra means subh is mentioned in veda not lord shiva. Veda is not central to Hinduism yes it has great contribution 👍 no doubt but is not the only thing describing Hinduism, hindu dharma is an amalgamation of many local, regional, multiplie traditions spreading across Indian subcontinent.
@@punyashloka4946 True..Hinduism integrated lot of local/tribal deities etc into the fold. Example Sabrimala was a tribal forest God to cure seprent bites, etc and was then elevated to Hindu God as Shiva's son..same with many such deities.
DASHRAJNA WAR - 49,000 YEARS AGO HAPPENED - FROM NILESH OAK'S BOOK.
Nilesh oak talk lot of nonsense the date he described is not possible and not realistic, no archeological evidence for his claims 🙄 49, 000 years you people need to get practical .
@@punyashloka4946 they have found archeological evidence of humans cooking fish 700000 years ago, not to mention certain tools, pottery and evidence of humans even much before that.. Your mind is limited, history is much more complex than you think.
Haha 😂
Some Scholars have identified the ethnic origins of the various western opponents;
Dasas- Dahae (West Turkmenistan), Parthava/ Pruthus - Parthians (North-Eastern Iran), Paarsu/ Paarsava- Persians (south-West Iran), Simyu- Sairima (Afghanistan), Madra - Medes or Mada (North-West Iran), Alina - Alan (South -West Russia, Ukraine), Alina - Hellene (Greece), Paktha - Pakhtoon, Bhalana - Baloch, Siva- Khiva/Xiva (Uzbekistan), Visanin - Pishachin (North-Eastern Nuristan), Simyu - Sarmatian, Vairna- Vaikarta (Afghanistan), Kavasa ia an Avestan name so is Kavi Chayamana
Very good description of subject by Dr Kashyap,thanks.
I’m looking forward for the deciphering of Devlok and Indus script,though both are assumed to be very different,hope Dr will put more light on it.
Finally we should emphasise to use and put the Hindu names of Gods and persons properly,by not adding a at the end of word like westerners,like Ram not Rama..Thanks..
Yeah, the "aa" is so annoying
What is the time difference between rig ved and other Vedas atharvaveda, samaveda, yajurveda
The 10 King's battle is mentioned in the Northern Gods Saga too! ❤✌
Brother what is
"northern gods saga"...
Can u please tell me? 🙏🏼
Devyaani temple,Devyani live at Devyani lake/Sarovar,Devyani Mother of Yadu & Turvasu clan ruclips.net/video/kx3FTWN6j7w/видео.html ...Wife of King Yayati, Mother of Yadu & Turvasu clan,Doughter of Shukracharya . Devyaani kund Saambhar,Jaipur, Rajasthan
Yavanas decendent of Turvasus ruclips.net/video/Fu6ihP_Yaxc/видео.html 👈👈
Techtonic plate story in purana ruclips.net/video/u9ZEoJhb0KM/видео.html 👈👈🤔Dhandhumar story ,Dhandhumar>Dhundhad>Dhundh Rakshas land,Dhundhad Around Saambhar lake areas
Ikshwaku Kshatriyas storyies ruclips.net/p/PL6f4sauH68wo7_LdQVZleWRj3aoZbPi_Q 👈👈
Interesting history!!👍🙏🏻
Who translated in English? Is the translation free from colonial biased?
Prassana Chandra Gautam, there are others too like the one by Bibek Debroy
If you know Hindi, you can read the Hindi translation by Swami Dayananda Saraswathi. Entire set of all Veda-s available in Amazon. You can also buy selected books too. For a detailed philosophical understanding you can read Sri Aurobindo's 'The secret of the Vedas' , 'Upanishads'.
Dravida is place where 3 side ocean present...
@1:15:26 the question about Rig Veda harping on King Sudas family I think has been answered by Shrikant Talageri. Where he posits that RigVeda is written by the Puru tribe and from their perspective, Sudas is from the Puru tribe.
Rigveda has a mention of Saraswati river , in present tense. It means it was a full fledged river. And as far as archeology is concerned it dried up 8000 years ago, than I am certain it was written by kuru kings came down post Ramayan. Post sarawasti drying up. This is a wrong presentation of true history. Independent search has to stop and official govt searches , excavation and dating methods had to be utilised
@@shubhangagarwal925 Rigveda has 10 mandalas, the older books do talk about it in present tense. Not sure about the latter books.
Mahābhārata depicts not only Balarāma’s pilgrimage along those banks, but how the final dreadful battle between Bhīma and Duryodhana took place ‘on the southern side of the Sarasvatī’, on a spot selected because ‘the ground there was not sandy'
@@shubhangagarwal925 it dried up according to geologists 4500 years ago! ❤✌
Kashyap ji, what about another reason. Maybe, the loss of Saraswati waters led to a severe constriction of the population. The trauma may have been such that the luxuriant environment needed for being a reader and thinker disappeared. There may have been a quanti and quali drop, numbers and capacity of people who could read and discuss the vedas. Is it possible that it was too huge a body of knowledge and needed many people to make it thrive?Rather than being not allowed to read the veda/ learn sanskrit etc??.....
The flash flood in the battle resembles the story of Moses parting the Red Sea and then the pursuing Egyptians drowned
What are these guys reading? Griffith? 7.18.6,7 for example, in which Griffith enumerates the so-called "10 tribes" - Anavas, Simyu, Bhrgus, Druhyus, Paktas, Bhalanas, Alinas, Vishanin, Shivas, Trutsu are all generic terms. And "arya" is "jo yuddhvidhi mein kushal"! Verse 7 in fact reads in bhavarth as follows: Hey rajan. Jo tapasvi purusharthi vakta jan uttam rupwale mangal jinke acharan yuddh vidhya me kushal aryajan aapko jis-jis ka upadesh de, us-us ko upramat hote hue sada taano, arthath sarvadaiva uska acharan karo. Where are the tribes? It is the 10 virtues of kings! How can the Veda contain itihasa? The western extent of Bharatvarsh was the Alps as confirmed by the Ramayana. And Mandala 7 contains some of the oldest of the RgVed songs, which puts them well beyond 20,000 BCE conservatively. What "race of Aryans" existed then? Or even later according to the colonial fake narratives? Paktas for example is "jo pak vidya me kushal". F**king cooks! So, you take some generic terms from a poem that is potentially 20,000 years old, associate that to lineages of kings that are of the period between 5k-10k BCE, then link that to ruins of two Indus settlements dated to 1500 BCE, and come up with a historic timeline of a series of battles? I think we need to take a serious look at traditional scholarship in this country.
A number of prominent religious figures said, including Sri Aurobindo that the incidents mentioned in the Vedas are symbolic, not historical. Only Sayana interpreted these as historical, but he was opposed by all others.
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Time line is not clear. Dasharajna yuddha is mentioned in 7th mandala of Rigveda. That means this part of Rigveda is composed after the war. Sudasa is 18 generations after Bharata. Does it mean these parts of Rigveda did not exist during earlier kings (Bharata, Nahusha, Manu etc). But it is also mentioned that 7th mandala is the oldest.
Sir, is topic pr hindi m bhi video banao
@sangam talks please also publish or upload you videos in small clips of 20 min or 10 mins complited in a playlist as its tough for a lot of viewers to watch in whole video in one go of
1.5 hours and many people who are interested in topic just leave it after watching duration of video.
Or else you can upload main main point of video in small small clips it will attract young audience attention as well as create a curiosity among them as well.
People who are interested will watch even if it is a 3 hour video; you can stop after 20 mins and later start it from where you left it; youtube has faclity of playlist, video history, downloading, etc.... so there is no need for short videos; infact people like me who listen to these videos as podcasts may find the longer format to be better.
Acharya Agnivart Naishtik is the most qualified person to talk on Vedas at this time. Please invite him for a session
Not sure if that would relate contextually. I am still listening to the Q&A sessions. Dr. Kashyap's thesis appears to be entirely related to past historic events described and inferred, while Acharya Agnivrat's thesis focuses more on sub-atomic effects and causation relating to the initial state of the entire Universe and beyond spanning much of particle physics including quantum mechanics and string theory.
While one train of thought is literal the other is highly abstract, both involving several assumptions.
But it might be fascinating. Any discussion among scholars, illuminating as they would be, is definitely worth listening to, because the real truth still evades everyone.
Even the Rg Veda says so ...
इयं विसृष्टिर्यत आबभूव यदि वा दधे यदि वा न ।
यो अस्याध्यक्षः परमो व्योमन्त्सो अङ्ग वेद वा न वेद ॥
Nice lecture
Where is the proof of Aryan race , Arya was a surname carried by kings and people alike. You call it itihas yet Aryan is a Colonial term. Show me proof of Arya in rigved I challenge you
SOS Question please -
As we believe both Ramayan and Mahabharat really happened why we're able to find material proofs of only Ramayan like 'Ramsetu, Ravana's caves in Sri Lanka etc' though it happened much before Mahabharat? Please respond. Namaste. Jai Sriram. 🇮🇳
There is ample proof of Dwarka , Hastinapur etc. Many of the pilgrimage sites mentioned in Tirtha Yatra upa parva like Pushkar , Somnath , etc still exist today.
@@hindurebel - Jai SriRam 🌹🙏
In Gulf of Kambhat there is an evidence of a city with palaces submerged in water . You can read the research paper where you can see similarities to Dwarka mentioned in Mahabharat
What if they went from gangetic area to indus valley region.
We were told by our elders that saptharshis lived throughout the manvantaras. they merged with the creator at the end of the manvantara and new set of saptharshis were given the duty of creating the world. in that case is it possible the vashista and vishwamitra are the same people ?
Thank you sir you explain it very well with accurate data.... There are few video on this topic but unfortunately narrator have no enough knowledge 😂😂
Pls dubbed this video in hindi bcos i want to share with my relatives
I dont agree with speaker Rig veda wasn't allowed for non brahmin jatis. Varna firstly were work based. So those who did were brahmins and not brahmins only read vedic sanskrit. Its like putting cart before the horse.
No one opposes arya samaj. These jati hierrarchy were modern phenomenon (KS LAL:Growth of ST and castes in mideval India), solidified by Risley census.
Though I agree with his OIT observations.
Probably the war was between fire worshiping Aryas ( who controlled agricultarists) and non fire worshipping Asuras and Aryans who were jealous of Sudasa . Asuras basically lived off forests and hated agriculturists who worshipped fire & who burnt vast stretches of forest. Asuras putting off yagna fires and beating up rishis who performed yagnas in forests is commonly described in all scriptures
SITAKALYANA of RAMAYANA has been KALACHAKRA dated by Nilesh Oak to 12209 BCE on the basis of about 200 observations of events in the epic itself. These dates are iron clad and can date the ancient event to the day because the solar system is a giant clock in the night sky and the slow wobble of the earth is well known which moves the pole stars in a circle very slowly over a period of 26000 years.
Almost all prehistoric dates are wrong. Rg Veda is before Ramayana. There is no KALACHAKRA date for DASHARAAGNA war yet. It is after Rg Veda before Ramayana.
Mahabharata itself is dated similarly by Oak to 5561 BCE, the date of Bhisma nirvana. Even that is much older than the date of the ridiculous Aryan Invasion Theory cooked up by Max Muller! The earth was not created by the Christian god 6000 years ago!
Goblike Tepe in Turkey, a henge for funerary rituals has much in common with Rg Veda rituals of the dead, MOHENJADARO of the Indus Valley phase, Egyptian Mesas or flat topped pyramids, regular pyramids of Egyptians fascinated with death, Sumerian civilization, Druid henges, all really old civilizations, typically 16,000 years ago, discussed by Vijayabhaarati.
Dasharajna war is mentioned in the Rigveda, therefore it has to be before or contemporary with the Rigveda
The Dasarajna war that I read says that Sudhas was from Paras (Persia aka Iran which makes him an Aryan). Mesopotamia, Greece, probably Egypt, Gandhar, Pakhtoonistan, Uzbekistan, IVC on the banks of river Sarawathy (which was flowing) & 2 more countries participated. Bharata's descendants Purus fought from IVC. Sudhas won the war & declared that he has not fought to make people his slaves or change them in any way. They can follow their own worship to their own Gods in their own temples & are free to follow their own culture & civilisation as they want.
Persian History says that Cyrus of Persia fought a war with 9 other kings & won it. He told the same words to the conquered people that they can follow whatever they were doing & he is not going to enslave them or convert them in any way. So today's Persian History & Dasarajna war described in Rig Veda matches perfectly except for the names.
Unfortunately by falsifying the "Aryan invasion theory" blabbered by the British to show themselves as superior, today Indians have started denying the AIT. Parasrama (citizen of Paras aka Persia aka Iran) invaded India & killed all the kshatriyas & created 3 rivers with their blood - Mahabharatha Adi Parv. We cannot ignore that. Sorry.
During Ramayana, Shiva was worshiped as God by Ravana, Mandodari & Ram-Lakshman. While the Sethu bandhana was going on, Rama made a Shivaling with clay & conducted the Mrithyunjaya Homa by chanting the mantra that Markandeya chanted. That place is in Rameshwaram (Ram + Ishwar) & a huge temple with beautiful gopurams (temple towers, South Indian style) stands there.
Parashu means battle axe in Sanskrit. Parashuram’s entire story is told in detail in Valmiki Ramayana. There is no reference to that he came from another land or country which was not Bharat. He was not a conquere but was killing corrupt Kshatriyas to reestablish dharma. Why are you making up stuff when it is all clearly elucidated in the Valmiki Ramayana, Mahabharata, and various Puranas such as Vishnu Purana.
There is no evidence to support AIT. It was clearly fabricated by Max Mueller to fit the British Colonial agenda and Christian/biblical dogmas.
You read delusional books. Sudas is from Bharata clan which existed in India. Parasuram is from India. Paras refers to Axe. Which was his weapon. Parasuram's killing of Kshatriyas might be the invasion of Europe and central Asia.
Why do people say Sanskrit is an ancient but not a living language?
The epic RAAMAYANA has the KAALACHAKRA date 12209 BCE and the SAMSKRTA language follows all PAANINI’s rules.
Unless PAANINI could travel in time to RAAMAYANA days his grammar rules of ASTAADHAAYI were known before RAAMAYANA and SAMSKRTA was frozen to be changeless.
It looks strange that a language couldn’t change over such a long period of time but there it is. RAAMAYANA is fully understandable today by anyone.
As for as living language is concerned, commentaries of Vedic texts were done in the near past ,say before Islamic raids in about 1000 CE.
MAHAABHAARATA is similarly dated to 5561BCE with a huge gap of about 12,000 years. Rg Veda was already known by RAAMAYANA and if these dates are correctly derived, where would the DASHARAAGNA war fit in this timeline?
Northwest India is the Proto-Indo-European homeland.
What an uneducated question. (1) Ahsvamedha avoids wa if the tribute is paid, and war ensues only if tribute is not paid. And we know during the Horses roaming many kings would just pay the tribute. (2) Ashvamedha did not change the King of the land but only his aligance to the Chakarvartin. This was important to ties the region in to single thread in case of external aggression. Even if war ensued, the population was not molested. The questioner and responder both seem not to pay attention to the details.
There was another talk about.. 10000 years ago migration outwards ..
In sumeriya both christian and muslim pay obeisance to KAMPILYABASINI as we do in majar of pirbaba. This is following to present days.
नमस्कारम् 🙏
Samavadamshanmukhasarma Pravachanam. Vishnu. Puranam
Prnam guru ji.....hindi me bhi btaiye plz
I am intrigued by the fact that only 7-8 rishi lineages /races etc are discussed.. what happened to the rest and why are they not talked about??
Aryan in what context speaker is talking.....there is quality which is given name as Arya...it's just character one should possess
Ashwamedh yajna doesn't involve killing of a horse🐎.
In western nepal lodged in the high remote mountains stays the culture where war is celebrated and you won't believe god indra is their main god as Mosto . not much is studied there so i would request any vedic scholar to do some research on it .
Talk about Hindu chronology. For example: ramayanam took place at the end of dwapara yugam but modern calculations tell it is about 10000bc like that. Please talk about it to remove the ambiguity.
Yuga calculations has changed since ancient times.
नमस्ते वेद ,(श्रुति,स्मृति,) ही है,इन को जानने के पहले सत्यार्थ प्रकाश,वेद भाष्य भूमिका,अवश्य पड़े,या मनु स्मृति,( जो वेद अनुकूल है,)को ही पड़े,
Honestly, the audio is not CLEAR at all!!!, it seems a good presentation but the audio ruined it. nothing verbal is clear. had trouble learning anything.
Yadu's ancient history from the South is evidenced from Yadugiri the historic name of Melukote in Karnataka.
Ashwamedha Yajna is Brahminical pursuit of Imperialism
Sir, you must change ur accent it's like foriegn imported lecturer like those libral manes, don't expose urself like a max meular type hinphobic maleech,
If you want to mention the Puran or upanishad be pronounced correctly & respectfully.
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Is Dashrajna war n Mahabharat war the same ?If not which happened first
Dashrajna war happened much b4 Ramayana and Mahabharata it can be older than 40000 BC
@@venurao8721 did u say 40, 000BC? 🤣
@@adityaraj2447by the way, people.were living on this planet, even before, 80000 years ago.
Voice is not distinct.
Sur / Asur means .
Sur are well developed and well tuned with Nature.where as the
Asuras are people crude and underdeveloped sensually and socially..
We get live examples even today . Unfortunately they are all invariably politicians... including the successful ones ..
No real and pure Sur gets into contraversies and useless debates
Max xtian practices are mithraism, inculturated.
I think scholars should refrain from term Aryans. Arya a title is original term.
सब जान सके उस भाषा में बोलिये महोदय हिंदी में भी
Indra is ब्रह्म। इद्र is रुद्र। उपेन्द्र /Indrānuj (Visnu Vamana)
Indra is Guru Brhaspati। With the Maruts ( Ref Taittiriya Navagraha Sutra) Indra is Shukra with इन्द्राणी।
Indra is also Skanda (इन्द्राग्नी) don't forget इन्द्रवायू and ofc Indra as supreme सूर्य रवींद्र। And ofc Indra is the greatest SomaDrinker so no doubt Chandra has everything to do with Indu।
Rudra and Indra are most related tho
Some of this is done by stretch of imagination without much proof in Vedas. Also Dasha Ragjnya not Dasha Rajana battle.
Dammit Can't stand that guy who asked first in the q and a,what a hater lol
But he seems to be always there (a plant from some org?) as a sarvajna!
Dating the Dasrajna war to 3000 BCE is foolish at best. So when was Ramayan and Mahabharat? It is said the ancestor of Sri Ram in Dasrajna war was some 30+ generations past.
Aryans, derived from the original Sanskrit word Arya, means cultivated educated person, according to Sri Aurobindo, used to have very high moral standard with great regard for truth, promise and hospitality. Their sages, or Rishis, after many years of meditations and learning, derived some great ideas or hymns(Riks) on God and universe.
Recent DNA evidence shows that Europe experienced a massive population influx from the east, beginning around 4,500 years from the present. Several haplo-groups were involved in this expansion, including the Indian-origin R1a1a. This was almost a total replacement event, which indicates that Indo-Aryans, among others, expanded westward into Europe and to a large extent replaced indigenous European males and their Y-chromosome strata (Sharma and his associates, 2009)
This genetic evidence indicates that several Y-chromosomal (patrilineal) lineages, one of which was the Indian-origin R1a1a, gave rise to the modern European population. Out of these lineages, R1a1a is the most widespread and numerous.
Recent DNA evidence shows that Europe experienced a massive population influx from the east, beginning around 4,500 years from the present. Several haplo-groups were involved in this expansion, including the Indian-origin R1a1a. This was almost a total replacement event, which indicates that Indo-Aryans, among others, expanded westward into Europe and to a large extent replaced indigenous European males and their Y-chromosome strata (Sharma and his associates, 2009)
This genetic evidence indicates that several Y-chromosomal (patrilineal) lineages, one of which was the Indian-origin R1a1a, gave rise to the modern European population. Out of these lineages, R1a1a is the most widespread and numerous.
It proves that:
1. The R1a haplogroup originated in India.
2. The Indo-Aryan people have lived in India for at least 15,450 years, which invalidates the theory that the Indo-Aryans invaded India 3,500 years ago.
3. The hundreds of millions of members (possibly over a billion) of the R1a family living across the world today - a very large fraction of humanity - are all descended from one single male ancestor who lived in India at least 15,450 years ago.
This discovery demonstrates the close genetic (and hence linguistic and cultural) affinity of Indians with the Russian and Polish people, the Vikings and Normans, and with the ancient Scythians and Tocharians, among many others (Sharma et al, 2009).
References:
Sharma S., 2009, The Indian origin of paternal haplogroup R1a1* substantiates the autochthonous origin of Brahmins and the caste system. Journal of Human Genetics, 54, 47-55
Sarker, A., A., Deshpande , A., Mukherjee, M. K., Bera,, B., Das, N., Juyal, P., Morthekai, R. D. , Deshpande, V. S., Shinde, V., & Rao, L. S., 2016, Oxygen isotope in archaeological bioapatites from India: Implications to climate change and decline of Bronze Age Harappan civilization, Nature, Scientific Reports volume 6, Article number: 26555.
Oceanography evedence is of 23000 yrs back not 2300bce
Dear its 3000 BC
@@adwaitvedant3297 the vivashana comes in Mahabharata, the gaggar digging and layer and water content analysis place it at 3000. But full fleded analysis of whole river bed starting from Himalayas to sindh sagar shows the drying happened slowly not abruptly. The archeological evidence of full-fledged civilization from rakhigari it self is of 8000 year. Astronomical observations like vega as pole star, samvatsara starting at krithika all modeled back beyond 17000 year....
He too needs to understand concepts. Sorry, this differentiate the faith and religion, and confusing with with Dharma.
Again the Aryan Theory is being pitched .... where it was in here in Sangam Talks it was destroyed !!!! Why ?
सर हिंदी में भी अनालिस् karee
Inki research bhejdu. Hindi ma convert kar lana....
Pandava brothers and kaurava brothers were not even blood relations! Pandavas were not even children of Pandu. Neither Dhritarashtra nor Pandu was a descendant of Bharata. They were kshatriyas only through their mothers. Adoption is fine for continuity of a kingdom but let's get the genetics right.
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@@sakshatkarandikar889 what ?
History(itihasa) in vedas ??? Foolish !! pls contact acharya agnivrat naishthik
Tu understand vedas one must complete the 6 vedangas then the 6 darshans then Brahman granthas . Pls understand there's no history in vedas .
.....you could have taken references for Sarasvati ( ruclips.net/video/zsY4Biuzras/видео.html ) going down from Sri. Nilesh Oak. Time line I think is still comprising to west historians.
there is no Aryans. that is bullshit. The word just means civilized or Noble. Every group would call another who they think of lesser as mleccha or dasyu. It has nothing to do with race, and more with ethnic culture of a tribe/region.
Well most of the scholars ( genetics, Linguistic, archaeological) support the Aryans migration Theory.. Out of india theory is supported by very less people. Only science can solve this.
@@adityaraj2447 yes. I didnt say anything about migration. I just say 'aryan' is not race or group. the word just means noble or wise or civilized. It is obvious that many people have migrated into India for 1000s of years.
These probably explains today's art of election aliances🤣😂
Oldest part of Rigveda--Book 7 is 3000BC???
Recent claims like Vedveer Arya :
11250 BCE King Sudass and Dasrajana war
The good Dr should keep to fixing bones than doing half-baked research and presenting fiction. Why is Sangam talks bringing Phonies like him and Niraj on this platform? You are diluting the quality of discourse
Rajamouli script
I didnt like the accent in which he speaks he is un clear in most parts difficult to understand. Sorry for me I didnt like this British Indian.