Where he said "I think jewish people also need to be involved because it is doing on their name" I was very pleased to remember that today Jewish voice for peace activists is chanting "Not in our name".
Those people who are "Jews in Name Only", who cannot read a word of Hebrew & whose real religion is PROGRESSIVISM. Progressivism is the strong belief that there is absolutely NO God. Their aim is to destroy the concept of Gender The family The nation-state Liberty & everything else precious in human affairs.
@@adidarmawan9966 Yes, Ghazzans need to stop their jennosidal activities against Issy. Otherwise, they will find themselves in paradise, sleeping with all those vergins.
Edward Said was truly a beautiful spirit, and a shining presence in the academic, socio-political world. He is missed by all who value honesty, fairness and justice. He has passed us the torch.
@@andrewgraham1418 Not Really. Prof Said was an intellectual conman, an academic hustler & pedagogical crook. His Orientalist theory has been proved to be a sack of ecskrement whilst his other sophisticated ideas have imploded in on themselves. A devious charlatan, all dressed up with academic garb.
Well said, this is a magnificent lecture by Edward Said Samuel Huntingdon was a conscious/ unconscious (probably the latter) agent of the Western plutocracy ( of course China has its own plutocracy, but more low key)
@@thegreatconstable I'm being quite serious. He just launches complaints upon complaints. We all know the history. We don't need more muckraking against the bad guys nor more Manichaeanism. We need well outlined psychological and philosophical analysis so as to grok the antinomies, as it were, these folks are fighting for.
summary: Edward Said's lecture "The Myth of the Clash of Civilizations" provides a comprehensive critique of Samuel P. Huntington's thesis, which suggests that future conflicts will be rooted in cultural and religious differences between distinct "civilizations." Said's arguments offer a nuanced perspective on this topic by addressing several key themes: Origins and Premises of the Thesis Huntington’s Argument: - Huntington's thesis, initially presented in a 1993 article and later expanded into a book, posits that post-Cold War conflicts would be primarily cultural. He identifies major civilizations, such as Western, Islamic, and Confucian, and suggests that the friction between these groups will drive future conflicts. Critique of Essentialism Reductionist Approach - Said argues that Huntington's approach is overly simplistic and reductionist. By categorizing diverse populations into monolithic civilizations, Huntington ignores the internal complexities, variations, and conflicts within these groups. - For example, the Islamic world comprises various sects, ethnicities, and political factions, each with its own history and perspectives. Said points out that such essentialism fails to capture these internal dynamics. Historical and Political Context Overlooking History and Politics: - Said stresses the importance of historical context and political motivations in understanding global conflicts. He contends that Huntington’s thesis overlooks these crucial elements, reducing conflicts to mere cultural differences. - Said provides examples from history, such as the colonial experiences in the Middle East and the geopolitical interests of Western powers, to illustrate how political and economic factors often underpin conflicts attributed to cultural clashes. Orientalism and Othering 4. **Reinforcement of Stereotypes:** - Said links Huntington’s thesis to the concept of Orientalism, where the West views Eastern societies through a lens of superiority and exoticism. This perspective fosters a binary opposition that depicts the West as rational and the East as irrational and threatening. - Said argues that such stereotypes are not only academically lazy but also politically dangerous, as they contribute to policies and attitudes that marginalize and demonize non-Western cultures. ### Media and Political Discourse 5. **Impact on Public Perception:** - Said critiques how the "clash of civilizations" narrative has been embraced by media and political leaders, exacerbating xenophobia and cultural prejudice. This narrative simplifies complex geopolitical issues and legitimizes aggressive foreign policies under the guise of cultural defense. - He discusses the portrayal of Islam in Western media, emphasizing how it often focuses on extremism and violence, reinforcing negative stereotypes and ignoring the diverse and peaceful aspects of Islamic cultures. ### Call for Dialogue and Understanding 6. **Promoting Inclusivity and Empathy:** - Said advocates for moving beyond the divisive framework of a "clash" and towards a more inclusive and empathetic understanding of global cultures. He emphasizes the importance of recognizing shared humanity and interconnectedness. - He calls for genuine dialogue and engagement, urging scholars, policymakers, and the public to adopt a more nuanced view of cultural interactions that respects differences while seeking common ground. Conclusion Edward Said’s "The Myth of the Clash of Civilizations" challenges the foundational assumptions of Huntington’s thesis, urging a reexamination of how global conflicts are framed and understood. By emphasizing historical context, political motivations, and the dangers of cultural essentialism, Said provides a more complex and accurate perspective on international relations. His critique highlights the need for empathy, dialogue, and a rejection of simplistic narratives that divide rather than unite humanity.
Said was a brilliant intellectual conman, a talented academic liar & a dangerous speaker. His far leftist, progressive nonsense & other warped BS convinced many European governments to import millions of pro-Jihadii migrants. His Orientalist Theory was the height of confusion & absurdity. An evil man
@@marwan3480 His visions have turned into horrible nightmares. Millions of peaceful North African and Middle Earstern Migrants have turned Paris, Brussels, London, Berlin, Rotterdam and Vienna into Jihadi-infested rectummholes.. France is
What a great guy. And a great sense of humor. Said and chomsky have railed against western imperialism for years. We have so many good historians who have covered this stuff. I hope some of them find their way into our schools. I am 70 and I see 2 generations after mine who have no knowledge of history. We will keep making the same mistakes. As did Rome, as did Britain. There is very little intelligent life on this planet.
I disagree. There might be very few or no intelligent lives in your part of the world but 85% of the (rest of the) world - have many - but given very little space in the controlled legacy media in your part of the world. Your cocoon of an echo chamber is similar to that of Western imperialist colonial countries.
I'm 35.. my thirst for knowledge and determination for fighting imperial capitalism is continually expanding. I know my generation won't see a different life but I believe in the possibility for the future and the potential in humanity. Just to send you a signal that not all is lost and lots of young people like myself are seeking to learn grow build and create.
@@Fr3nchfriiGood luck young man. When I was 13 I did not foresee the present circumstances in which the world finds itself. In old age and with incredibly vast knowledge of things, thanks in no small part to the internet, I can project out many years. The key is not considering one trend, such as climate or population growth or decline or consumption of natural resources but combinations of trends, how trends interact. That is what many futurists in government and the think tanks don't do. Not an easy task. AI will help. Or AI will become impatient and we are able to guess what that means.
This video came up as the best surprise of the day. I’ve realized how much I’ve missed reading or listening to the most brilliant mind of 19th century. Our conscience needs to hear Said so badly. Rest in peace great soul, wherever you are.❤
Remember when intelligent and well-educated people lead our cultural debates with long, carefully thought and written lectures and discussion? Before cable TV chasing ratings, before the internet destroyed the concept of expert knowledge, and before social media turned us into rage monsters caught in houses of mirrors? Can we go back?
there are still people like that if not more due to the early influx of infomation at a young age. You can miss the past of course but dwelling on it and claiming there arent people like this ,as you havent looked for them, isnt progressive. The people who have expert knowledge have even more so thanks to the day we live in, be thankful for the privelege and be protesting for those who dont. All you can do to challenge those who get entertainment out of harsh temperment.
Edward Said was very eloquent and well-ahead of his time, what he says, about Palestine more than anything else, relates to our times even more than his own. It pains me when he says «I’m afraid it will be worse»..
I want to add something about Samuel Huntington's history. Huntington during the Vietnam War era was in favor of ‘forced-draft urbanization." In other words, going into a peasant village destroying it and forcing the peasants to move close to the city and live behind barbed wire. To put it another way, Huntington was an ideologist for war crimes.
Edward Said was a really special clear intellectual. I miss listen to people like him, and always if I lock in past time seeing the older videos from Edward Said that makes me feeling comfortable.
THIS is a helpful , wise and intelligent view of the world and humanity! Imagine a world with leaders who thought this way! I hope future generations are able to enjoy living in such a world. I am so thankful for thinkers like Edward Said, they represent how I and so many of us think, and I am sure there are many of us around the world, but we are not being heard through all the “clashing clatter”.
My Hebrew name Jacova is the female form of Jacob. I'm Jewish. Israel is the Jewish homeland. Palestine is a colonial construct of the Romans. Are you Roman?
thank you very much for what you say, i am with every single word you say, great compliments, great thanks, perfect words to what our world is now and yes to this brave new world, so well said, such a super talk you make, so many true words you say, tante gracie, greetings from vienna, austria, middleeurope, bravo bravissimo!
17:08 So much worth reflecting on here. Real diversity thrives when we embrace our complex, multiple identities and recognize the interdependent systems of cooperation we need to develop. It shows how freedom for each of us depends on freedom for all of us.
But it turned out Huntington was a realist and proven to be true. Just look around and you will see; in Israel - Judaism vs Islam, in France (& most of Europe)- Christianity vs Islam, in India - Hinduism vs Islam, in Sri Lanka - Buddhism vs Islam, in China - Atheism vs Islam, in Myanmar - Buddhism vs Islam and in Middle East- Islam vs Islam.
@@deepsareen1did you even watch the lecture? Said’s words apply to every conflict you named, and he even touched upon Palestine in the last segment of the Q&A.
Isr@el isn't Western in any meaningful sense of the term. Ask any Jew, they will insist: "We are NOT white!" They get quite offended if you call them white or European. They are Semitic, and their philosophical, political, and ethical beliefs are quite distinct from European Christian ones, and actually share a lot more in common with Arab Muslim ideals and practices, in aggregate of course. They routinely sided with the Muslims against the Christians throughout history during the repeated Muslim incursions into southern Europe and when they set up Islamic kingdoms or vassal states there during the Middle Ages. Perhaps the difference between Europeans and Jews is best summed up in the difference between historical Western art and architecture versus the modern and postmodern art and architecture that Jews came up with in the 20th century. Europeans like the Parthenon or the Colosseum, while Jews like brutalist architecture such as Soviet apartment buildings, hence why every building in Isr@el looks that way, give or take a few. I've never seen a modern Isr@eli building that wasn't just a featureless tower block made of reinforced concrete, totally devoid of decorative elements. Western civilization is all about aesthetics, while Jewish civilization is not, hence why European soldiers wore extravagant uniforms, even at the cost of a loss in efficiency, while IDF soldiers wear diapers. All function, no focus on form. Honestly, the European mindset and the Jewish mindset couldn't be more different. Saying Isr@el is a part of the West is like saying Mexico is a Buddhist country, it just doesn't compute. There is a population of Jews that have lived in Kaifeng, China for like a millennium, and yet that doesn't mean Jews are part of Chinese culture. They have a distinct cultural continuum across their many ethnic groups throughout Isr@el and the diaspora, it isn't just some offshoot of Western civilization. Most of the Jews of Isr@el aren't even descendants of Zi0nist settlers but rather the Mizrahim, an ethnic group of Jews that were already living in the Levant when the modern state was founded.
Refreshing to hear someone with a philosophy or view that defuses tensions rather than stokes them. The critics may have vested interests in justifying the status quo, resisting any attempt to claim a more calm destiny for humanity. Those people hear him through their own vested entrenched biases. That's the modern tragedy.
Excellent points. If you enjoyed this talk by Said you'll love David Graeber's work, esp 'The Dawn of Everything.' The world really doesn't have to be a conflict driven reality.
Piketty too is a remarkable French researcher, who explains perfectly the western economic model based on exploitation. I agree with you about David Graeber.
In the 60s we called this critical thinking...learning global historic theory...the politics of charity of tolerance ... political detante with our global neighbors. We were dreamers
A proud son of the then state of Palestine educated in the west. Seems he just explained what happened to the "peace dividend" after the cold war ended in this lecture. A calm reason is quite radical in an insane world. Honest debate and honest scholarship was Edward Said's approach to see the world as is, as it has been and a way forward toward a more peaceful world. I miss his presence in this world. While fear and intolerance is ascending currently in 2024, this tide will recede one day forever, it was Edward Said hope. Imagine
In 2024, and the issues Said are talking about are still relevant today, with Israel and the US committing a full-out genocide in Gaza in the name of the clash of civilisations. Today is October 19 2024, and Israel is committing a massacre in Jabalia refugee camp with an attitude of impunity.
In 635 A.D., the Caliph Umar left Mecca to take control of Jerusalem and establish SHARIAH LAW. Upon finding out that all the Jews had been killed by the Christians (because they supported Persia over Rome), he ordered the Muslims to bring 80 jewish families to repopulate Jerusalem.
he died in 2003. May his soul rest in peace. However he is still alive in his books and in the hearts of those who cherish his resistance. he was calling for reconciliation among all nations. btw, he is Palestinian
"But the work of man is only just beginning, and it remains to conquer all the violence entrenched in the recesses of our passion, and NO RACE possesses the monopoly of beauty, of intelligence, of force.... And there is a place FOR ALL in the rendezvous of victory." ---Amie Cesaire
“Edward Said was raised as a Christian.This is a minority religion among Palestinians, the majority of whom are Muslim. However, as an adult, Said identified himself as an agnostic. Said often wrote about the conflict between the Israelis and the Palestinians. He was critical of both Israeli and U.S. policy in the Middle East.”
@@YogaladyToronto I know that. Though he's still ethnically a Palestinian Christian since that's the demographic he originates from. I'm a Kurdish Muslim with agnostic leanings, yet I'd still be associated with a Kurdish Muslim identity simply to distinguish me from Kurds who are of other religions although they may have shed their religious convictions too. It refers to descent rather than activity What I was referring to, to be more precise, is that, in the Muslim side of things, there is a small group of people who radically believe that all Christians are somehow immoral. And I'd love to point out Said in their faces as a response.
To discuss this presentation should be part of the curriculum in any school in Europe and the USA. - In retrospective it is particularly interesting how Said is analyzing the so called peace process in Israel Palestine predicting the catastrophy that was to come.
The best explanation I’ve heard on how and why the right-wing mentality, such as this expressed by Jordan Peterson, managed to bring the world towards to the neo fascist state of affairs of 2024.
You are, of course, referring to the hyper-repressive, mysoginistic, raping, murdering, violently anti-gay, anti-freedom of religion, anti-democracy, anti-economic prosperity, draconian fascists known as Hamas, correct?
Never met a Christian I didn't like, never met a Muslim I didn't like, never met a Jew I didn't like, never met anyone I didn't like or that I hated... I live in Texas, I like the illegal immigrants I've met, just trying to live (even when they're scammers, even when I cant understand them) even the waisted drug addicts (theres quite a few here) I've NEVER met anyone I've minded, for that I've gotta go on You tube, or watch the news... Guess I'm lucky, but BOY the media sure is trying to piss everybody off, and I can tell, so I just keep watching to see where they go next with the stuff they say, and see how it ends cause Ill still be here... But on the ground, talking to people, It's quite different, people like to talk to each other, to hear and be heard (ever when they think they don't)... That's where the good stuff is, never wanna forget that... Never gonna forget that, that's the weapon against such obvious and institutionalized hate, because that's what it is, that's what it is... Good show BTW
Your comment is the most interesting one I've read all week. I have to agree with you. It's interesting how people with megaphones try to get you to fear and hate others.
1998 was the year and he could be speaking as if it was today in 2024..nothing has changed, things have gotten worse. We listened to Huntington and double down on demonisation of other cultures and here we are..in the SH*T
Frank/Francis Fukuyama is still alive in his sinecure as Hoover Institution senior fellow where every summer the Draper Woods Institute recruits a number of international participants to build a stable of up and coming conservatives. He did come out against the Iraq war, but not very forcefully.
Greed (financial and power) is the result of fear. Fear is the result of previous pain. The propaganda varies, but its purpose is to promote fear to gather followers. Nature causes fear with its periodic scarcities and disasters
Here is a short list of great Jewish thinkers that have written on the topic (to include prior IDF and Israeli Intelligence): Professors: - ***Professor Norman Finkelstein - Professor Avi Schlaim - Professor Ilan Pappé - Professor Chomsky - Mouin Rabbani - Albert Einstein Journalists/Authors: - *** Gideon Levy, former spokesman for Sharon Perez former President of Israel) - Ronan Bergman, former IDF soldier & Israeli intelligence - Miko Peled, author Rabbis: - Rabbi Elhanan Beck
An excellent analysis and debunking of a now-bankrupt idea. 'Whenever you hear "our," you want to head for the exit' is an excellent point. We are desperately in need of bringing people together and uniting them, rather than trying to use the old divide and conquer strategy. Otherwise, we might fall into our own trap and become divided. One wonders according to Huntington Russia is Western or Confucian😂😂😂
I don't know if Huntington was right or not, but 30 years on, it appears one of the chief reasons for the clash of civilizations is a different view of the value and desirability of open societies. We see it within the United States and we see it between isolationists and globalists, and we see it, for example, in Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea where the societies are kept under strict control to prevent the ideas of open societies from overtaking the thinking of the people. The same is true between societies moving toward something like Sharia law, and societies that want more individual freedoms.
Bullshit . People in Russia can hai access to western media outlets as well . Even before the war the Russian people by any poll they were done with the west and its so called values . U must understand that your way of thinking Is not the Universal norm . All laws in support of the traditional family and tightening of immigration have tremendous support in Russia . Even regarding literature the tastes of the russians are totally different from the west . Its sufficient ti Watch what happened in 2015 when millions of people all over Russia went to the streets with pics of their dead relatives in the second world war .they were forced? It was soon After the Crimean spring . Millions . Instead the west Spoke of navalny and a few thousands liberals across a country of 145 millions . In 1991 the overwhelming majority of the people voted to mantain the ussr but their Will wasnt respected by the party and few liberals in Moscow sponsored by the west Who are an increasing minority in the country
That's a good thought and your heart is in the right place, however you're missing the reason why industry moves overseas in the first place. Capitalism's tendency towards monopoly and the tendency of the rate of profit to fall, make it necessary for capital to export the means of production to foreign countries. In other words, the core functions of capitalism give rise to imperialism deterministically, so yes the US "should not have" offshored industry, but that process is inevitable in a system of market production in which profit is the prime mover.
@@hotcakesism it really isnt as diffrent modes of crapitlsim exist and can funcion on diffrent levels of productiviity.free trade glboal crapitlism is part of strategy of interconnectedness wchi combine eocnomics with poltical influnces.too bad that china is startign to beat westenerrs in trheir game so they are angry.
This post with video should state when the lecture occurred. You Tube has tge date it was posted, I presume, but we should no when it happened in history.
It literally has a title card a second in that tells you where. The lecture took place in 1996. It took me about 15 seconds Googling to figure that out.
M8 I ticked the like button because I agree with you that as different as people are we have to get on with each other otherwise it becomes chaos. But M8 I'd be lying if I didn't add that "religious idea's/beliefs will be the cause of the end of humanity.... .
Please really take a moment to hear Said. Part of Said's point was, communities were complex human societies which were overly simplified and dehumanised. The vast majority of people who speak for Palestine, are speaking for its humanity. "In Palestine multifaith and polytheism went hand in hand and for millennia the country was a multifaith/polytheistic polity; the multitude of religions and cultures in Palestine is one of its most striking and characteristic features." ~Nur-eldeen Masalha~
Where he said "I think jewish people also need to be involved because it is doing on their name" I was very pleased to remember that today Jewish voice for peace activists is chanting "Not in our name".
chanting good for nothing while thousand s of innocents are being murdered by Jewish bandits.
Those people who are "Jews in Name Only", who cannot read a word of Hebrew & whose real religion is PROGRESSIVISM.
Progressivism is the strong belief that there is absolutely NO God.
Their aim is to destroy the concept of
Gender
The family
The nation-state
Liberty
& everything else precious in human affairs.
@@berksonmezz
Half of all Js now live in Israel. Looking at J kids, three quarters live in Israel. The long term trend is obvious.
too bad the bigoted terrorists don't have counterparts in the Arab populations saying "not in our name"
@@berksonmezz IN MY NAME. IN MY NAME. IN MY NAME!!!!!!!!!
What a way to open for a lecture! with King Crimson.
Starless. How appropiate.
"You cannot continue to victimize somebody else just because you yourself were victimized."
Yes, that is why Said's insane philospohy is unsound and intellectually corrupt. He is obviously an academic charlatan.
@@adidarmawan9966
Yes, Ghazzans need to stop their jennosidal activities against Issy.
Otherwise, they will find themselves in paradise, sleeping with all those vergins.
Yes, the fake fakestinians need to stop victimizing Gews to their Jihadii fantasies.
Right, so maybe stop victimizing Jews.
@@benb6527, you know full well the context referenced in that statement and why your reply is no justification for what happened in Palestine.
Edward Said was truly a beautiful spirit, and a shining presence in the academic, socio-political world. He is missed by all who value honesty, fairness and justice. He has passed us the torch.
He was a moron. Almost everything he wrote has turned out to be garbage.
@@andrewgraham1418
Not Really.
Prof Said was an intellectual conman, an academic hustler & pedagogical crook. His Orientalist theory has been proved to be a sack of ecskrement whilst his other sophisticated ideas have imploded in on themselves. A devious charlatan, all dressed up with academic garb.
Sophistry and populism at their basest
Make a point or grovel in dilentantism.@@benb6527
Well said,
this is a magnificent lecture by Edward Said
Samuel Huntingdon was a conscious/ unconscious (probably the latter) agent
of the Western plutocracy
( of course China has its own plutocracy, but more low key)
I met Professor Said in 1994/5. Its the highlight of my career. ❤
How come this video doesn't have a couple of millions of views more?
Older upload does.
High School arguments he wields.
Cuz people don’t have the attention span
@EdZeind you're not serious, are u?
@@thegreatconstable I'm being quite serious. He just launches complaints upon complaints. We all know the history. We don't need more muckraking against the bad guys nor more Manichaeanism. We need well outlined psychological and philosophical analysis so as to grok the antinomies, as it were, these folks are fighting for.
summary: Edward Said's lecture "The Myth of the Clash of Civilizations" provides a comprehensive critique of Samuel P. Huntington's thesis, which suggests that future conflicts will be rooted in cultural and religious differences between distinct "civilizations." Said's arguments offer a nuanced perspective on this topic by addressing several key themes:
Origins and Premises of the Thesis
Huntington’s Argument:
- Huntington's thesis, initially presented in a 1993 article and later expanded into a book, posits that post-Cold War conflicts would be primarily cultural. He identifies major civilizations, such as Western, Islamic, and Confucian, and suggests that the friction between these groups will drive future conflicts.
Critique of Essentialism
Reductionist Approach
- Said argues that Huntington's approach is overly simplistic and reductionist. By categorizing diverse populations into monolithic civilizations, Huntington ignores the internal complexities, variations, and conflicts within these groups.
- For example, the Islamic world comprises various sects, ethnicities, and political factions, each with its own history and perspectives. Said points out that such essentialism fails to capture these internal dynamics.
Historical and Political Context
Overlooking History and Politics:
- Said stresses the importance of historical context and political motivations in understanding global conflicts. He contends that Huntington’s thesis overlooks these crucial elements, reducing conflicts to mere cultural differences.
- Said provides examples from history, such as the colonial experiences in the Middle East and the geopolitical interests of Western powers, to illustrate how political and economic factors often underpin conflicts attributed to cultural clashes.
Orientalism and Othering
4. **Reinforcement of Stereotypes:**
- Said links Huntington’s thesis to the concept of Orientalism, where the West views Eastern societies through a lens of superiority and exoticism. This perspective fosters a binary opposition that depicts the West as rational and the East as irrational and threatening.
- Said argues that such stereotypes are not only academically lazy but also politically dangerous, as they contribute to policies and attitudes that marginalize and demonize non-Western cultures.
### Media and Political Discourse
5. **Impact on Public Perception:**
- Said critiques how the "clash of civilizations" narrative has been embraced by media and political leaders, exacerbating xenophobia and cultural prejudice. This narrative simplifies complex geopolitical issues and legitimizes aggressive foreign policies under the guise of cultural defense.
- He discusses the portrayal of Islam in Western media, emphasizing how it often focuses on extremism and violence, reinforcing negative stereotypes and ignoring the diverse and peaceful aspects of Islamic cultures.
### Call for Dialogue and Understanding
6. **Promoting Inclusivity and Empathy:**
- Said advocates for moving beyond the divisive framework of a "clash" and towards a more inclusive and empathetic understanding of global cultures. He emphasizes the importance of recognizing shared humanity and interconnectedness.
- He calls for genuine dialogue and engagement, urging scholars, policymakers, and the public to adopt a more nuanced view of cultural interactions that respects differences while seeking common ground.
Conclusion
Edward Said’s "The Myth of the Clash of Civilizations" challenges the foundational assumptions of Huntington’s thesis, urging a reexamination of how global conflicts are framed and understood. By emphasizing historical context, political motivations, and the dangers of cultural essentialism, Said provides a more complex and accurate perspective on international relations. His critique highlights the need for empathy, dialogue, and a rejection of simplistic narratives that divide rather than unite humanity.
Thanks ChatGPT
@@jgoogle4256 your welcome human!
Muchas gracias por el resumen. Que pena que este video no se haya doblado al español.
Excellent 🤌
Thanks for the summary!
People need to watch this. It explains a lot about the politics at play today. Consciousness Raised 🎉
30 years later from this lecture "what a visionary!" can be comfortably said about Said.
Said was a brilliant intellectual conman, a talented academic liar & a dangerous speaker.
His far leftist, progressive nonsense & other warped BS convinced many European governments to import millions of pro-Jihadii migrants.
His Orientalist Theory was the height of confusion & absurdity.
An evil man
@@marwan3480
His visions have turned into horrible nightmares. Millions of peaceful North African and Middle Earstern Migrants have turned Paris, Brussels, London, Berlin, Rotterdam and Vienna into Jihadi-infested rectummholes.. France is
The only parts in his lecture that have come true are those in "clash of civilizations"… pretty far away from a lecture named "the myth of etc."
Not really. His entire thesis was essentially platonism. It has been proven totally inept as a system of thought.
@@beniluv3250100 percent. He was a moron.
What a great guy. And a great sense of humor. Said and chomsky have railed against western imperialism for years. We have so many good historians who have covered this stuff. I hope some of them find their way into our schools. I am 70 and I see 2 generations after mine who have no knowledge of history. We will keep making the same mistakes. As did Rome, as did Britain. There is very little intelligent life on this planet.
I disagree. There might be very few or no intelligent lives in your part of the world but 85% of the (rest of the) world - have many - but given very little space in the controlled legacy media in your part of the world. Your cocoon of an echo chamber is similar to that of Western imperialist colonial countries.
I'm 35.. my thirst for knowledge and determination for fighting imperial capitalism is continually expanding. I know my generation won't see a different life but I believe in the possibility for the future and the potential in humanity. Just to send you a signal that not all is lost and lots of young people like myself are seeking to learn grow build and create.
@@Fr3nchfriiGood luck young man. When I was 13 I did not foresee the present circumstances in which the world finds itself. In old age and with incredibly vast knowledge of things, thanks in no small part to the internet, I can project out many years. The key is not considering one trend, such as climate or population growth or decline or consumption of natural resources but combinations of trends, how trends interact. That is what many futurists in government and the think tanks don't do. Not an easy task. AI will help. Or AI will become impatient and we are able to guess what that means.
Edward Said, was really needed at this moment.
what a great mind. Thank you fpr posting this talk, so timely.... 3 decades later
This video came up as the best surprise of the day. I’ve realized how much I’ve missed reading or listening to the most brilliant mind of 19th century. Our conscience needs to hear Said so badly. Rest in peace great soul, wherever you are.❤
You mean 20th century
He is a Muslim; his opinions are coloured by his Islamic ideas to occupy and convert.
Remember when intelligent and well-educated people lead our cultural debates with long, carefully thought and written lectures and discussion? Before cable TV chasing ratings, before the internet destroyed the concept of expert knowledge, and before social media turned us into rage monsters caught in houses of mirrors? Can we go back?
You mean before Zionist cancel culture
there are still people like that if not more due to the early influx of infomation at a young age. You can miss the past of course but dwelling on it and claiming there arent people like this ,as you havent looked for them, isnt progressive. The people who have expert knowledge have even more so thanks to the day we live in, be thankful for the privelege and be protesting for those who dont. All you can do to challenge those who get entertainment out of harsh temperment.
Edward Said was very eloquent and well-ahead of his time, what he says, about Palestine more than anything else, relates to our times even more than his own. It pains me when he says «I’m afraid it will be worse»..
What an extraordinary mind was Said!!! I will never get tired of saying this. This lecture should be translated in all languages!
I want to add something about Samuel Huntington's history. Huntington during the Vietnam War era was in favor of ‘forced-draft urbanization." In other words, going into a peasant village destroying it and forcing the peasants to move close to the city and live behind barbed wire. To put it another way, Huntington was an ideologist for war crimes.
He wanted to create Gaza in Vietnam and here we are now.
All part of the plan . Not a coincidence @@totonow6955
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Edward Said was a really special clear intellectual. I miss listen to people like him, and always if I lock in past time seeing the older videos from Edward Said that makes me feeling comfortable.
THIS is a helpful , wise and intelligent view of the world and humanity! Imagine a world with leaders who thought this way! I hope future generations are able to enjoy living in such a world. I am so thankful for thinkers like Edward Said, they represent how I and so many of us think, and I am sure there are many of us around the world, but we are not being heard through all the “clashing clatter”.
I hope Professor Said would be proud of the movement for Palestine Liberation today
I am embarrassed for you. Islamic J.had is anathema to God and life
My Hebrew name Jacova is the female form of Jacob. I'm Jewish. Israel is the Jewish homeland. Palestine is a colonial construct of the Romans. Are you Roman?
thank you very much for what you say, i am with every single word you say, great compliments, great thanks, perfect words to what our world is now and yes to this brave new world, so well said, such a super talk you make, so many true words you say, tante gracie, greetings from vienna, austria, middleeurope, bravo bravissimo!
He passed away 21 years ago.
@@radwandabaja We honor his words. BDS.
But was he correct in saying it is myth; now that it has turned out (at least thus far) to be reality (and not myth)
@@azalia423 We do but Alas he was wrong!
@@deepsareen1 The reality continues to be that the colonizers don't belong there.
Great lecture
R.I.P Edward Saeed 💐
What a profound speech. I wish more western scholars would speak the truth like Edward.
he taught elegance is a lucid attitude. How I miss him.
Yes!!!!! Thank you Said
Edward Said The Great 👏🏼🙌🏼
yes, you were right, Dr. Said
Not really. The myth turned out to be true.
@@deepsareen1not really. You’re just stuck in the Cold War with the rest of the Boomers and Neolibs.
Bernard Lewis and Huntington writings are confessions, a classic case of projection
This lecture is probably 25+ years old yet every word is still true today. So sad, so tragic.
17:08 So much worth reflecting on here. Real diversity thrives when we embrace our complex, multiple identities and recognize the interdependent systems of cooperation we need to develop. It shows how freedom for each of us depends on freedom for all of us.
Brilliantly articulated!
Brilliant. I read some of his essays in my literature and linguistics courses. I wish every American could understand this.
good one, Edward said you definitely are a very good speaker. Edward said you know what you are talking about, including history
RIP Edward Said 🙏 😢 💔 Rest in Power!!! 🇵🇸🇵🇸✌✌
Great intro with KC.
🤩🤩🤩🤩 Thank you 🙏 👏👏👏...tell the truth...💪💪💪 👏👏👏 Thank you 🙏 🤩🤩🤩🤩
Nice to see nothing has changed ...
Superb. Thank you. Best wishes.
Great man who for ever missed !❤❤❤❤❤❤
But it turned out Huntington was a realist and proven to be true.
Just look around and you will see; in Israel - Judaism vs Islam, in France (& most of Europe)- Christianity vs Islam, in India - Hinduism vs Islam, in Sri Lanka - Buddhism vs Islam, in China - Atheism vs Islam, in Myanmar - Buddhism vs Islam and in Middle East- Islam vs Islam.
@@deepsareen1did you even watch the lecture? Said’s words apply to every conflict you named, and he even touched upon Palestine in the last segment of the Q&A.
Incredible!
We miss Edward Said ❤ 🇵🇸
long live our world and all peoples free from Western imperial domination
whos free?
@@shahreyar99 until Empire falls, no one
Isr@el isn't Western in any meaningful sense of the term. Ask any Jew, they will insist: "We are NOT white!" They get quite offended if you call them white or European. They are Semitic, and their philosophical, political, and ethical beliefs are quite distinct from European Christian ones, and actually share a lot more in common with Arab Muslim ideals and practices, in aggregate of course. They routinely sided with the Muslims against the Christians throughout history during the repeated Muslim incursions into southern Europe and when they set up Islamic kingdoms or vassal states there during the Middle Ages. Perhaps the difference between Europeans and Jews is best summed up in the difference between historical Western art and architecture versus the modern and postmodern art and architecture that Jews came up with in the 20th century. Europeans like the Parthenon or the Colosseum, while Jews like brutalist architecture such as Soviet apartment buildings, hence why every building in Isr@el looks that way, give or take a few. I've never seen a modern Isr@eli building that wasn't just a featureless tower block made of reinforced concrete, totally devoid of decorative elements. Western civilization is all about aesthetics, while Jewish civilization is not, hence why European soldiers wore extravagant uniforms, even at the cost of a loss in efficiency, while IDF soldiers wear diapers. All function, no focus on form. Honestly, the European mindset and the Jewish mindset couldn't be more different. Saying Isr@el is a part of the West is like saying Mexico is a Buddhist country, it just doesn't compute. There is a population of Jews that have lived in Kaifeng, China for like a millennium, and yet that doesn't mean Jews are part of Chinese culture. They have a distinct cultural continuum across their many ethnic groups throughout Isr@el and the diaspora, it isn't just some offshoot of Western civilization. Most of the Jews of Isr@el aren't even descendants of Zi0nist settlers but rather the Mizrahim, an ethnic group of Jews that were already living in the Levant when the modern state was founded.
And of course we should be under Eastern imperial domination.
@@mobilegamereviewer.1936 i hope we arent under any imperial domination. empires are inherently unfair.
🤩🤩🤩🤩 👏👏👏 Edward Said 💪💪💪 👏👏👏 🤩🤩🤩🤩 Thank you 🙏 🤩🤩🤩🤩
Refreshing to hear someone with a philosophy or view that defuses tensions rather than stokes them. The critics may have vested interests in justifying the status quo, resisting any attempt to claim a more calm destiny for humanity. Those people hear him through their own vested entrenched biases. That's the modern tragedy.
So many great ideas here that ring true today, eloquently and movingly put.
Excellent points. If you enjoyed this talk by Said you'll love David Graeber's work, esp 'The Dawn of Everything.' The world really doesn't have to be a conflict driven reality.
Piketty too is a remarkable French researcher, who explains perfectly the western economic model based on exploitation.
I agree with you about David Graeber.
What a speaker. He explains the problems in Huntington's writing so well.
Opening track is a bop
King Crimson - Starless, from the album Red (1974)
Thanks for sharing this
In the 60s we called this critical thinking...learning global historic theory...the politics of charity of tolerance ... political detante with our global neighbors. We were dreamers
Respecting the difference living with it AND ENJOYING IT.
I wasn't expecting to hear king crimson on the start of this. That's rad
A proud son of the then state of Palestine educated in the west. Seems he just explained what happened to the "peace dividend" after the cold war ended in this lecture. A calm reason is quite radical in an insane world. Honest debate and honest scholarship was Edward Said's approach to see the world as is, as it has been and a way forward toward a more peaceful world. I miss his presence in this world. While fear and intolerance is ascending currently in 2024, this tide will recede one day forever, it was Edward Said hope. Imagine
In 2024, and the issues Said are talking about are still relevant today, with Israel and the US committing a full-out genocide in Gaza in the name of the clash of civilisations. Today is October 19 2024, and Israel is committing a massacre in Jabalia refugee camp with an attitude of impunity.
Great Palestinian, sorely missed
Erudite Said!
See also Laurent Guyenot's, 'Israel, The Psychopathic Nation'
Love the King Crimson ❤
In 635 A.D., the Caliph Umar left Mecca to take control of Jerusalem and establish SHARIAH LAW. Upon finding out that all the Jews had been killed by the Christians (because they supported Persia over Rome), he ordered the Muslims to bring 80 jewish families to repopulate Jerusalem.
Hence Bibi and Sharon.
Love to see western women cover themselves, and men wear skirts
@@aleksandarteodorovic5349two Europeans that worshipped the golden calf while larping as semites.
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Nope. DNA analysis has proved the levantine origins of these people.
@@victormeidan1062where their DNA results?
A true human being.
Is he single cause I'm SO in LOVE with him and this lecture!!❤ Wow!!!
he died in 2003. May his soul rest in peace. However he is still alive in his books and in the hearts of those who cherish his resistance. he was calling for reconciliation among all nations. btw, he is Palestinian
"But the work of man is only just beginning, and it remains to conquer all the violence entrenched in the recesses of our passion, and NO RACE possesses the monopoly of beauty, of intelligence, of force....
And there is a place FOR ALL in the rendezvous of victory." ---Amie Cesaire
How ironic that a Christian was speaking out about all this. I respect him a lot for pursuing the truth.
“Edward Said was raised as a Christian.This is a minority religion among Palestinians, the majority of whom are Muslim. However, as an adult, Said identified himself as an agnostic.
Said often wrote about the conflict between the Israelis and the Palestinians. He was critical of both Israeli and U.S. policy in the Middle East.”
@@YogaladyToronto I know that. Though he's still ethnically a Palestinian Christian since that's the demographic he originates from. I'm a Kurdish Muslim with agnostic leanings, yet I'd still be associated with a Kurdish Muslim identity simply to distinguish me from Kurds who are of other religions although they may have shed their religious convictions too. It refers to descent rather than activity
What I was referring to, to be more precise, is that, in the Muslim side of things, there is a small group of people who radically believe that all Christians are somehow immoral. And I'd love to point out Said in their faces as a response.
This is obviously an old talk (1998), yet in 2024 the conditions for the Palestinians are the same, and after Oct 7, worse. 😢 ❤❤❤🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
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Sad to realize this was over 27 years ago.
3:16 Fukuyama jokes are such low hanging fruit, but I love them nonetheless.
Starless. 👍🏽
To discuss this presentation should be part of the curriculum in any school in Europe and the USA. - In retrospective it is particularly interesting how Said is analyzing the so called peace process in Israel Palestine predicting the catastrophy that was to come.
A very clear and straight way of thinking. Unfortunately Samuel's thesis is accepted more by people in power.
what an incredible and beautiful mind he had. the world is aloss without him
The best explanation I’ve heard on how and why the right-wing mentality, such as this expressed by Jordan Peterson, managed to bring the world towards to the neo fascist state of affairs of 2024.
Maybe fascist is Said ?
Hardly, matey@@bluestar6879
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You are, of course, referring to the hyper-repressive, mysoginistic, raping, murdering, violently anti-gay, anti-freedom of religion, anti-democracy, anti-economic prosperity, draconian fascists known as Hamas, correct?
@@bluestar6879 look up the meaning of fascist
Never met a Christian I didn't like, never met a Muslim I didn't like, never met a Jew I didn't like, never met anyone I didn't like or that I hated...
I live in Texas, I like the illegal immigrants I've met, just trying to live (even when they're scammers, even when I cant understand them) even the waisted drug addicts (theres quite a few here) I've NEVER met anyone I've minded, for that I've gotta go on You tube, or watch the news...
Guess I'm lucky, but BOY the media sure is trying to piss everybody off, and I can tell, so I just keep watching to see where they go next with the stuff they say, and see how it ends cause Ill still be here...
But on the ground, talking to people, It's quite different, people like to talk to each other, to hear and be heard (ever when they think they don't)...
That's where the good stuff is, never wanna forget that...
Never gonna forget that, that's the weapon against such obvious and institutionalized hate, because that's what it is, that's what it is...
Good show BTW
Your comment is the most interesting one I've read all week. I have to agree with you. It's interesting how people with megaphones try to get you to fear and hate others.
51:18 THIS!!!!!!!! SHOULD BE PUT ON SIGNS AND BANNERS AROUND THE WORLD
"Denationalize education..." Brilliant🌻🙏✨🧡
That's what Said said.
An amazing and powerful plea for peace between cultures and civilizations ❤
But then not all cultures and civilisations are open to reform
Does anyone have the date for this video? Aside from his charming attire and mention of Arafat, it sounds like today.
1998 was the year and he could be speaking as if it was today in 2024..nothing has changed, things have gotten worse. We listened to Huntington and double down on demonisation of other cultures and here we are..in the SH*T
The best speech I ever heard
Wow, King Crimson, Palestine and truth: 3 of the things I love the most in life!
Not the people but the teachings are.
Edward Said: a legend
For you maybe.
Clash by design.. of few individuals.
He is a scholar from post colonialism school of thinking.
Bless this man.
Fortunately, both Fukuyama and Huntington have disappeared into the woodwork.
Frank/Francis Fukuyama is still alive in his sinecure as Hoover Institution senior fellow where every summer the Draper Woods Institute recruits a number of international participants to build a stable of up and coming conservatives. He did come out against the Iraq war, but not very forcefully.
What a beautiful man
my GOAT
Greed (financial and power) is the result of fear. Fear is the result of previous pain. The propaganda varies, but its purpose is to promote fear to gather followers. Nature causes fear with its periodic scarcities and disasters
5:55
That literally the divide-and-rule doctrine/technique of top-down imperialism.
They can not rule unless you agree to divide
Here is a short list of great Jewish thinkers that have written on the topic (to include prior IDF and Israeli Intelligence):
Professors:
- ***Professor Norman Finkelstein
- Professor Avi Schlaim
- Professor Ilan Pappé
- Professor Chomsky
- Mouin Rabbani
- Albert Einstein
Journalists/Authors:
- *** Gideon Levy, former spokesman for Sharon Perez former President of Israel)
- Ronan Bergman, former IDF soldier & Israeli intelligence
- Miko Peled, author
Rabbis:
- Rabbi Elhanan Beck
An excellent analysis and debunking of a now-bankrupt idea. 'Whenever you hear "our," you want to head for the exit' is an excellent point. We are desperately in need of bringing people together and uniting them, rather than trying to use the old divide and conquer strategy. Otherwise, we might fall into our own trap and become divided.
One wonders according to Huntington Russia is Western or Confucian😂😂😂
Does anyone know when this brillant lecture was delivered? Also, does he have an essay on this which can be cited?
1998
43:57 all of this could’ve been said today in 2024
Because if there's a clash of civilizations, it means that at least one of them...isn't
I don't know if Huntington was right or not, but 30 years on, it appears one of the chief reasons for the clash of civilizations is a different view of the value and desirability of open societies. We see it within the United States and we see it between isolationists and globalists, and we see it, for example, in Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea where the societies are kept under strict control to prevent the ideas of open societies from overtaking the thinking of the people. The same is true between societies moving toward something like Sharia law, and societies that want more individual freedoms.
Bullshit . People in Russia can hai access to western media outlets as well . Even before the war the Russian people by any poll they were done with the west and its so called values . U must understand that your way of thinking Is not the Universal norm . All laws in support of the traditional family and tightening of immigration have tremendous support in Russia . Even regarding literature the tastes of the russians are totally different from the west . Its sufficient ti Watch what happened in 2015 when millions of people all over Russia went to the streets with pics of their dead relatives in the second world war .they were forced? It was soon After the Crimean spring . Millions . Instead the west Spoke of navalny and a few thousands liberals across a country of 145 millions . In 1991 the overwhelming majority of the people voted to mantain the ussr but their Will wasnt respected by the party and few liberals in Moscow sponsored by the west Who are an increasing minority in the country
Said said wha he say
I would have advised our government to not ship our industry overseas to a growing country as a starter to remaining strong..
That's a good thought and your heart is in the right place, however you're missing the reason why industry moves overseas in the first place. Capitalism's tendency towards monopoly and the tendency of the rate of profit to fall, make it necessary for capital to export the means of production to foreign countries. In other words, the core functions of capitalism give rise to imperialism deterministically, so yes the US "should not have" offshored industry, but that process is inevitable in a system of market production in which profit is the prime mover.
@@hotcakesism100%!!!
@@hotcakesism Capitalism sucks. I'm well aware. Nobody forced this government to sign NAFTA.
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it really isnt as diffrent modes of crapitlsim exist and can funcion on diffrent levels of productiviity.free trade glboal crapitlism is part of strategy of interconnectedness wchi combine eocnomics with poltical influnces.too bad that china is startign to beat westenerrs in trheir game so they are angry.
@@hotcakesismbang on 👍
This post with video should state when the lecture occurred. You Tube has tge date it was posted, I presume, but we should no when it happened in history.
It literally has a title card a second in that tells you where. The lecture took place in 1996. It took me about 15 seconds Googling to figure that out.
Piers Morgan should watch it. Can someone send this video to him?
Why? Would it make a difference? 😏
Lol
He's stalled in the machismo of "supremacy."
M8 I ticked the like button because I agree with you that as different as people are we have to get on with each other otherwise it becomes chaos. But M8 I'd be lying if I didn't add that "religious idea's/beliefs will be the cause of the end of humanity.... .
what the hell is that Music at the beginning?
Please really take a moment to hear Said. Part of Said's point was, communities were complex human societies which were overly simplified and dehumanised. The vast majority of people who speak for Palestine, are speaking for its humanity.
"In Palestine multifaith and polytheism went hand in hand and for millennia the country was a multifaith/polytheistic polity; the multitude of religions and cultures in Palestine is one of its most striking and characteristic features." ~Nur-eldeen Masalha~