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I really wished that Grim Dawn has a dedicated closed online server. I like playing ARPGs for fun, but I felt more invested in playing one that's like PoE and D2/D3 where you have characters stored on server side to prevent cheating issues and have ladders to compete, and stronger online multiplayer support. And an economy as well. I feel like items have value more if I can trade them.
@@anotherks7297 It isn't paid or sponsored in any way no. If it was I am obliged to tell you guys via the title, description or by mentioning it in the video. I think people are playing Grim Dawn because the current state of PoE isn't what it could be =)
👨🏫Here's your guide: 1) 0:31 The atmosphere 2) 1:27 Pace & difficulty 3) 3:35 It's about the journey 4) 5:07 The endgame 5) 9:52 The loot 6) 13:21 The complexity 7) 15:39 The build diversity 8) 18:54 The devotion tree 9) 22:13 The community 10) 23:42 Mod support
@@dorittossenpai2268 Disagree. For sure some of his points may be repetitive and for sure Grim Dawn may not be ground shattering or mind blowing. However, GD is still a solid game and no where close to a cheap copy pasta. Many of the points made by this video stand.
@@shtroizn Very simple. Because of the fact that the game is not online, devs don't pay attention to it's security. well, it is impossible. So we have alot of different utility programms for GD now including GD Stash. It basicly kills any reason to farm and grind. Beacuse why would you spend your time for this, if you can get any item you need? You just finish the game once and that's it. Well, you can try out some more builds with all the sets and items you want, but it will take you a couple of days. See what i mean? No sense to play, trying to get an item you need ot some currency to trade this item from another player or soma materials for crafting...
@@pavelkulinich3354 I see. Well - I play single player and don't bother with farming - I just enjoy trying different builds and running the campaign, but I understand what you are saying. Still - Grim Dawn is a great game imo and the devs seem friendly and attentive from my experience.
@@pavelkulinich3354 you can say that about any offline game but cheaters are often overwhelming minority cuse what';s the point of buying game jsut to cheat it? I view offline as a plus cause it never have any issues with server stability (which of poe is well known for)
You're actually a fantastic reviewer. I thought your niche was build guides, but I'm quite surprised how well you put this together. And as a Grim dawn player myself (over 700 hours). You put my thoughts right into this better than I could express them myself! You should definitely do more of this content.
Malagant is one of the first people i looked after when i started even few years back ^^ Very very thankful for Malagant's work, all kind of guides and most of it all LEVELING GUIDES for all classes aswell as speed runs...amazing !
Played TQ before so I got some experiences in ARPG. Normal/Veteran is a cake walk, Elite is when real journey begins and while you might struggle you would eventually finish it but in ultimate, especially in your first character you wont be able to progress unless you know how this game work. 580hrs in game and climbing more.
Yeah you hooked me. Just bought it and it's downloading now. Again thank you so much for doing this video. I can't believe I had never heard of this game
Mybe the best ARPG atm, no joke. I like the pace of the game, atmosphere, story, content, best Devs... ARPG fans wont be disapointed, highly recommend!
OH PLEASE! It's a mod-based ARPG with a community full of people who quite literally edit their way into endgame with GD Stash-allowing them to create any item in the game on the spot, & giving them access to a slew of other game-breaking features that they can take into multiplayer without penalty. Grim Dawn is great if you're into single player ARPG's that allow unfettered access to modding, but the game is a total flop from the multiplayer perspective, as the modding stands as a bulwark against anything even remotely resembling an interactive & thriving multiplayer experience. And analyzing this game's Total Sales : Current Players ratio shows that only something like 0.3% of the total # of people who have purchased the game actively play it (And just 3 weeks after a major DLC launch). I'd argue those numbers suggest that most people who purchase the game get bored of it once they realize that the multiplayer aspect of the game is made to be exceptionally boring & shallow due to the modding.
And if anyone reading this thinks I'm exaggerating about the modding, just take 10 minutes or so to Google "GD Stash", & find a video going over everything it can do. It's essentially an in-game God Tool that you can use in multiplayer without risk of bans or suspensions; & it's also arguably the primary reason why this game has no thriving economy.
@@Vincere1105 It is not an online multiplayer game. It is a single player game primarily, with multiplayer capability if one wishes. Vast difference from PoE or D3 in this regard. But you likely knew this already and your comparison is disingenuous. No one is claiming that GD is the online multiplayer ladder king - or even contestant. By all means, if you are in it for multiplayer competition, look elsewhere.
@@triggermortis8252 I was & still am under the impression that the key takeaway from my comments above is that this game is, & I quote myself, "great if you're into single player ARPG's that allow unfettered access to modding", but a total flop outside of the realm of single player experience. I never stated that GD was primarily a multiplayer game, nor did I insinuate that. Mentioning Grim Dawn's failure in the realm of multiplayer experience is absolutely valid if you consider the sheer amount of publicity this game is getting from content creator's who specialize in, & have built a fan base around, online multiplayer games like PoE (I mean hello, we're in LiftingNerds comment section right now after all). I'd wager that Grim Dawn's concurrent player base is so low relative to the total number of copies sold specifically because of how many fans of multiplayer ARPG's find their way to Grim Dawn before realizing that it has no real potential whatsoever as a multiplayer game. With that said, I think my criticism is absolutely valid. And I'll go even further to warn anyone reading this not to waste their money on Grim Dawn unless they don't mind grinding what is effectively a single player ARPG.
@@Vincere1105 You did insinuate that when you shouted down the OP when they mentioned nothing at all about multiplayer - but instead the "pace of the game, atmosphere, story, content". No one plays multiplayer games for these aspects, other than perhaps pace. You brought them into the conversation so that you could compare it PoE. Lifting did not compare it, other than to mention similar complexity. Perhaps he enjoys GD as a change of pace from the crappy loot drops and "economy" simulator? Anyways - PoE is great if you are into it. GD is also great if that is your style. And gamers are allowed to enjoy both.
03. It's about the journey Amen, brother! I'm sick and tired of „content creators” theorycrafting builds and telling noobs to rush to lvl 94 so they can „fully experience” the game with X and Y set that is OP. The best part of the game for me is the leveling to 94. Having to min-max OA, DA, devotions and resists is a real challenge and that's where the fun resides.
When i first tried it, it was supposed to be just that, a little try. Ended up playing Ennio Morricone´s The Good the Bad and the Ugly Theme in the Background and playing only Grim Dawn for 3 Days until i was through, its absolutely captivating, great atmosphere, controls nicely, has tons of depth (so much that after a few months im already out of it again) and even the Sidequests are pretty nice. Just saw this vid and wanted to stop by saying this. Yes you should definitely play it, the year doesnt matter, this will always be an extremely well done game.
Great review and I agree with your points. Very long, but there's a lot of content and QoL features (far more than people realise) in this, it really is the best ARPG around. I do feel like DLC should be addressed - although not required it really does round out and add to the full game and people who don't have it are missing out. This does make it quite expensive though.
I played Grim Dawn right after it came out of beta and before I really got into Path of Exile. Had one hell of a good time with it, but after 700 hours and 8 characters I got bored with simply running through the 3 difficulties with each character and then having nothing to do with them beyond the occasional Nemesis boss farming. That much is to be expected for a game by an Indie developer that you buy once and that doesn't have the ability to provide massive content updates every few months like PoE can thanks to its business model. Came back for a bit with Ashes of Malmouth so there was some new stuff to do again, which was great for rekindling the fun for another while, but there still wasn't any real endgame system to use my now max leveled characters on (aside from Crucible which I wasn't a fan of.) The new expansion seems to finally add a procedurally generated endgame dungeon system akin to rifts in D3 and maps in PoE, so I'll definitely give Grim Dawn another whirl sometime these days. The fact that all my gear is basically useless thanks to the now lv100 level cap is a bit daunting but with more options to farm legendaries without needing to trade with players, the hunt is a big part of the fun.
Shattered Realms is not actually procedurally generated, it just takes "chunks" at random from the existing maps, places random enemies and hazards and possibly modifies the lighting.
I think the end game is now at least on a bar with PoE. And you don't have to run three difficulties anymore as you can buy a potion that allows character to skip right to ultimate (also getting all the WPs of normal and elite, as well as skill/stat point quest rewards)
Grimarrillion Reign of Terror Apocalypse Zenith Nydiamar Path of Grim Dawn Mods will give you a few thousand more hours to play with. (edit) I should include NoblePaladin, as it has tbe Diablo 2 classes in Reign of Terror, but mostly because playing RoT makes me so nostalgic for Diablo 2 that I would rather go play that sometimes.
Glad to see more love is given to this game despite the weird hate i've heard about it, its one of the games that i can play until the end and not get bored even once. The constant chase to improve but never strive to one shot enemies with any build (my moto) is what keeps me going, eggcellent review, subbed!
I had Grim Dawn on my wishlist for a while and a friend of mine was kind enough to give me Grim Dawn for free! So I was pretty happy about giving it a try, I bought the expansions myself to maximize my experience and went on to play the game, it took me about 42 hours to complete the main storyline from beginning of normal to the end of normal, but that is actually just the beginning, there are 2 more difficulties and I didn't even touch any of the faction grinding yet, which looks like a really awesome mechanic to make farming way more interesting. Also trying to build out and perfect your character, trying diffirent devotion constellations to change the way you can play, the whole way you can customize your character is really awesome. I'm really enjoying this game and I'm looking forward to getting my character up higher as we speak, I managed to reach lvl 60 when I finished the game (I did explore all the zones, I didn't even complete the side missions yet because I was trying to make up lost time with my friend), but currently playing on elite difficulty and now going to read up on the story, I'm looking forward to it.
Here's a not too (kidding) fun fact! Grim Dawn is the first reason I'm into the ARPG genre and still being the best in my heart. (For the moment, I have like around 10+ characters both including softcore and hardcore, tho the longest gameplay so far is right around 250 hours, with the other's average around 50 hours because I haven't fully maxed out my second retaliation build)
You definitely want to get the expansions They include more classes and story and so much more items And overall you can support the developers even more so they will be able to make more such games.
I just recently bought the game, definitive version, at COG. I had trouble getting it to run. After 3 days of troubleshooting and tweaking, the problem was solved. All I had to do was make a character first. Hey, who knew? Now it's up and running, my biggest gripe was the teeny tiny text. I fixed that with a simple 2 in the right place in the init file. Overall, I'm loving it. Since respecing is a viable option, I'm just winging it for now. I managed to come up with a witch hunter class. Looking forward to seeing how that works out for me.
This video has really tipped the scales for me, I really appreciate your review LNB. When I go to get this game I will most certainly use your link. Keep up the great work bro!
The point about loot tables is very compelling. That's one thing I wish was different in POE. It's so much more rewarding when you can farm towards the exact item you need for your build, but that never happens because you can just buy the item you need. Unless you're playing SSF which honestly helps bring that feeling back. Even using the Fated prophecies for something you need feels great, but in trade league there's just no reason to do things yourself.
'Loot that I could use to improve my character', sigh, my memory is blurry of the last time I had this thought in poe. Probably sometime back in 2014 when I made my first minion/specter build and got 'Bones of Ullr'. I am a supporter of ggg since the lunch and by all honesty I am starting to get tired, Last 2 leagues have been quite incomplete and rushed, one league after three months doesn't seem to be an optimal direction ggg is taking. Nor am I satisfied with the forced super sonic speed builds we have to play in order to be able to complete the league content and get absolutely underwhelming rewards. I genuinely hope that they will make enormous positive changes but in the meantime I will definitely try Grim Dawn , very exciting stuff. Thank you Lifting for the great review as always.
I very much share that opinion. I will make a video at some point where I want to go over my current frustrations of the game. Thanks mate. I hope you will like Grim Dawn.
I am a fairly new player at Grim Dawn ,playing necro atm. Your guide videos helped me a lot. Using the mods recommended and following a build guide from net. It is a smooth experience. I have played diablo games, poe and wolcen but this game is the game that I have been looking for. It is well worth to invest time and have fun. So thank you for making these videos.
I played this a little bit a while back & have been looking for something to play - this is piquing my interest, I may give it another shot now because of you. Thank you for this in-depth video, I’ve subscribed to your channel & plan on checking out more of your content! I appreciate when people do analytical videos on gaming like you seem to do here.
I have just come back to GD two days ago and purchased Forgotten Gods only yesterday. I am sorry to say that I missed your purchase-connection. But seeing especially YOU praising the game makes me want to tackle it even more. Thanks for that, Bro! Also, I am, as always, looking forward to updates on both GD and PoE from your side! Keep up the great work, mate!
I have a lvl 27 soldier/oathkeeper... Maybe not the best combo because it's my first time playing the game, but god I'm having lots of fun. Definitely way better than Diablo 3 and even Path of Exile
yea i was disappointed when i found out you were forced into builds in diablo 3 in order to be competitive. For example I had x4 the monster kills of my friend, but he was a higher paragon level than me
Been playing Grim Dawn for years...Such a great game to pick up when PoE is getting a bit stale. Can always go back to grim dawn and have some fun. Have like 800 hours played on GD.
How should i put this, EVERY ARPG is like that once. Story that you care, challenge that you face. But as the game age, story becomes less of a concern for people who already spent years in that game. POE , D2, D3 actually all have pretty engaging story for your first or 2nd time of your journey, then you would just skip it afterward. This can 100% be said about Grim Dawn too. The magic of story wont be there forever because you're going to replay it again and again. Also about difficulty, POE , D3 all has end game contents that's immensely difficult for you to challenge regardless how strong your characters becomes since Delve and GR scale infinitely. Your criticism about POE/ D3 losing difficulty while Grim Dawn doesn't is an absurd one because not only it isn't quite true, it is also biased and ignorant in some way.
You're misunderstanding what he is saying. Grim Dawn sets itself apart from PoE and D3 when it comes to the journey/questing, because you can choose how a lot of quests will end depending on what dialogue option you choose, it's not all one sided objectives (they do exist, of course) There are secret/hidden quest as well, you can target farm, and there is a reputation system, so exploration becomes more important than other ARPG. Secondly he didn't say PoE and D3 didn't have difficult content. Using infinite scaling content as an example of difficulty is laughable, it's just a parser to see how far you can go before it becomes impossible because you're stats can't compete with the monsters stats. But if you compare what tier 1-10 mapping in PoE and Expert difficulty in Grim Dawn is like you would maybe understand what he means. Apart from some bosses in PoE everything is getting one shot as you zoom through the map, it's not necessarily a bad thing but it is a difference between the games, the only time I worry about non-boss monsters in PoE is when they have an on death effect, you will almost never have to deal with their mechanics when they're alive because they don't even get to react to your character. D3 is the worst example of difficulty because of it's itemisation, you farm your set - go into GR stun lock everything as you kill them off, sometimes luring mobs who got a charge skill first - then you hit a wall, so you have to do lower GR, farm out a better version of the set and repeat until there's no way to pass the wall.
@@atropheusl8602 I agree... PoE becomes mindless currency trader in endgame... more useful to get gear.. and killing mobs is not fun, its either u got random out of screen 1 shotted.. or u just snowball and kill everyone on screen without them even trying to hit you.. I prefer having less mobs perhaps, but actually mobs who stuns, or does something, so poisitioning or actually actively thinking how to play and survive means something... not to mention how shit the poe engine is... every bi-season the game just crashes, random bugs etc... with every season u dont know if ur able to play it or not...
Lifting, check the new expansion of Titan Quest - Atlantis, mate,. Also you can make a review for the players that dont know it so they may try and enjoy this ever giving game that is 15 years old and is the predecessor of Grim Dawn (same devs).
That could also be worth it for 2020. Thanks for this content. I am a player of D1 / D2 / D3 and Path of exile, and recently with all the bugs and problem in PoE, I was looking for a game in this style. Here I go o/ Thank you again
@@Rokabur They also modded the shit out of some ancient engine which takes 13 devs no time to produce a game.. I would be more on board with the game if it did 2 things.. First, made the game in a modern engine.. and 2nd, they had secure online play.. If it had both those things I would never trash this game. But don't say its better than d3.. Its not even close.
And Boss were so diverse aswell, it not just how boss attack element def etc etc but they have Unique spell or skill that you have to watchout, planning and timing or every can goes wrong real quick.
I bought this last night (but havent installed it yet) and I'm looking forward to my weekend. What really looks interesting to me is the gear customization, recipe system, the skill triggers in the devotion system, the devotion system in general, and the duel class system.
I really, really like certain aspects of this game. I have taken several characters to 100. Here's why I stopped playing: 1) The devotion tree or constellation. I love upgrading characters, but this thing is just so mind numbingly confusing as to which nodes to pick to optimize my character that I basically just gave up. If you mess up early and don't unlock the right nodes, to unlock the other right nodes, then you will be behind on leveling end game skills and when you get to Ultimate you will get destroyed as you will probably get destroyed on Ultimate anyways. The game basically forces you to look up other peoples builds or get annihilated when you get to Ultimate. which brings me to #2.... 2) Difficulty. Man. The end game on GD is absolutely BRUTAL. If you haven't found good gear, Ultimate will eat your lunch, take your lunch money and beat your ass for crying about it. I found myself looking up builds (which I HATE doing, I like building a character I want to play....) because if you just build a character that "sounds good" to you... Ultimate will tear you apart. 3) The solo slog through the lower difficulties. I will combine 2 gripes here. First is multiplayer. It is really, really bad in this game. So, you get to slog your way through the story mode of the game by yourself most of the time and the first 2 difficulties are basically pointless. Elite provides a decent challenge and Ultimate destroys you. The grind became too much basically and the multiplayer is the worst of all of the ARPGs that I play. I like playing these games with friends, but, yeah.... the join system is from the 90s or thereabouts. Mainly... The constellation is my main problem. I HATE looking up builds to see what I "should" pick... but, with the way the devotion tree is set up, if you don't do a cookie cutter build, then you most likely will choose wrong and screw your character for Ultimate. It's sad because I think I like the actual gameplay of this game better than every other ARPG in existence. I really think they need to add more constellation points or something. There are so many awesome skills and it seems you are really limited on which you can choose.
I'm really wanting it, just 2 things holding me back: 1. Level scaling (hopefully not THAT much of a big deal) 2. Price - Or specifically the absence of any kind of sale. I'm a big fan of post apocalyptic, western and victorian themes, so the atmosphere is right up my alley. I adore it for the fact that it isn't another mythical/medieval themed arpg.
you convinced me I have game downloading now, I had it on wishlist long time but price was a little scary, now when I got it on discount and watched your video you convinced me and btw great video mate.
Thank you for this video. I got so goddamn sick of the constant crashes of Path that I went looking around and realized that I have the base game for Grim Dawn (god only knows who gave it to me.) This video was incredibly helpful.
You don't have to restart a character to select a new mastery. Remove all points from the mastery and relog the character and you'll be given the option to select a new mastery.
If you've placed any points in the Mastery itself (bar at the bottom), those points can't be refunded, and thus you can't refund the mastery without a new character/using a third-party tool.
Soon i will reach 1500 hours in GD, brutal awesome game, one of the best in the genre! I like nearly everything in it. Though it would be cool to have the stash NPC closer to us in town(s), also to make mule chars easier to make, not to tied to the Reanimator Boss kill, and have more space in the stash, yes i'm a hoarder i know. If i would nitpicking, i would mention the multiplayer i mean no dedicated servers, but hey, Crate Entertainment is still a small team, so it's okay in this case. Otherwise it's a gem, story/loot/progression etc. top notch! Forgotten Gods expansion is over the top also, can't get enough of this game! They deserve the money for all GD content! They sell it way under the price. Cheers! :)
Everytime I play D3 or POE...I keep getting pulled back to Grim Dawn. I love it, I just got Ashes in the last steam sale, and I will pick up Forgotten Gods when I get to the end of Ashes.
This game has the right amount of complexity for me. I don’t feel like I need a doctorate in builds to play this game like certain other games(PoE). Since nothing except mastery is permanent you can learn as you go and fix your mistakes once you learn what mistakes you made.
This was a very nice, and informative video :) A couple of friends and I have talked about getting into the game and this definately helped! It's also nice to hit more danish youtubers!
I just start the game before 3-4 days and gonna buy the first expansions today also meet already few friendly guys and we grind together which make game even better.
Great video! Like many others i've dived back into the game as well and am suprised at how little i have seen so far from the endgame. Btw, u forgot 1 other thing thats also something that makes it so good and thats Secrets! this game has so many secret stuff, from loot behind a wall to secret quests and bosses(like Lokarr) something u don't see much anymore in todays games.
really good review and great game too, ..only downside i feel is theres way too much loot i think....loot shud be a bit rarer..so its more rewarding wen u get it
Grim Dawn is an amazing game ans it is soooo overlooked all the time it does not get half the respect it deserves. I Own the two expansions, currently going through the freaking swamp, keep daying on those " Extra hard places" where your stats are reduced. I am level 55 so maybe i ma not ready for that yet....has anyone encountered the difficulty really ramping up after the main campaign is over?? I am not complaining i actually embrace the challenge but i did noticed. Great game......
+yasmani perez yea the difficulty of Ashes of Malmouth is definitely a bit higher. Make sure you are capping or at least getting the relevant resistances up. Also it is completely fine to save some of the areas for later :)
even though I got this game way before I saw your videos, they helped me to understand the game better. I completely forgot that I could 'power level' my characters in the crucible, lol
i got this for an unbeatable bargain of 4 bucks on a steam sale and i wish i could get into it, especially as i disbanded this sort of game after diablo 2....it should be perfect. it's just i don't play video games like that anymore....for everybody else, who still thinks this sounds like a perfect title: even the normal price of i think 15 bucks is ridiculous. absolute must buy.
I think the biggest magnets to this game that should be highlighted is the balance, all classes and almost all spells are perfectly valiable - and the pace. PoE sadly heavily suffers in the balance realm (in top 10 builds of 3.8, there is 7 witch builds, 6 of them are necromancer and most of them are minion specs..), it is always flavor of the season... on the same class - witch. The pacing is kinda ridiculous, you move way too fast and you wipe screens of enemies, although satisfying at first, it becomes rather dull. Also GD's perfomance is much better, now, its graphics are less detailed than poe's for sure, but you wont get drop to 1 fps because of an NPC spawn, ever, you wont get server DC's because GD is offline. Playing with friends is worthwhile in GD and you can really synergize builds insread of just one being glasscannon and second heal bot. Also the number of "skins" that look good you get is unmeasurably higher than PoE's (all FREE poe skins suck besides some uniques), and you can apply any skins you have found on your acc, for the in game "gold", no premium currency, same with stashes etc. The build complexity is prolly deeper than PoEs. PoE kinda pretends to be hyper complex but than all you really need is either max your energy shield or go for the health rectangle... and then just +damage nodes of your choice. In GD, you have the double class system and devotion on top of it, where devotion is similiar to passive tree, but it actually also gives actives and spell modifications. You also have better crafting and attuning in GD. There is just way too many positives for that game. It is also not owned by chinese online investor company lol.
I'm hoping this game runs better than PoE does, since I basically can't plat that game anymore (since removal of Directx9 support). I'm gonna bet that the slower pace and less visual clutter in the screen makes my potato able to run it lol
I just bought the game today, for $3.99 on gog, cheaper than on steam or humble bundle, I watched your video just to get an idea of the game, because I've never heard about it (yeah, silly me lol) I'm really looking forward to this journey. Thanks for the review!
@@terror0x I don't think so, since I posted I had to travel and I haven't played much, but today I get back home and I'll check, I'll let you know. But I do remember there were a lot of items for sale, so the dlc's might have been sold separately, but they were still cheap.
@@terror0x hello mate, I've just checked and the dlc's are sold separately, but not expensive crucible is $2.29 ashes of malmouth being the most expensive is, $8.58 last weekend they were on sale, the link is gog.com/game/grim_dawn I hope it helps.
I've never heard of this game. It looks awesome! I am definitely going to try it. I absolutely hate have fast path of exile is so this slower paced game looks very tempting to me. I love the diablo series so again, perfect fit. Thank you for doing this video and bringing it to our attention!
Port Valbury, Malmouth and Necropolis are my all time favorites You can complete a main story (4 Acts) in like 8 hours and then spend another 50 hours chasing that perfect build you'd want with that character. A note about notes (possible SPOILERS): I found a note about trolls kidnapping young women for their love affairs... OK, that is weird I thought, then in Malmouth there is a incubator room where women used to breed hordes of monsters... OK, now THAT is creepy!
Almost 4 minutes in so far. Excellent video. I can only buy the base game atm. Is that enough for a good experience? Or will I feel like I don't have the complete experience without the expansions? Will I be level capped without the expansions? Those will prevent me from late-game farming until I buy them. Thanks :)
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just played it a bit recently it's some arpg to play while i wait for the next d3 season. Since thare are not many arpg alternitives to d3.
LiftingNerdBro Wth, I’m still a bit new here but everyone playing Poe is transitioning to Grim Dawn. Is this paid content or something?
I really wished that Grim Dawn has a dedicated closed online server. I like playing ARPGs for fun, but I felt more invested in playing one that's like PoE and D2/D3 where you have characters stored on server side to prevent cheating issues and have ladders to compete, and stronger online multiplayer support. And an economy as well. I feel like items have value more if I can trade them.
@@anotherks7297 It isn't paid or sponsored in any way no. If it was I am obliged to tell you guys via the title, description or by mentioning it in the video. I think people are playing Grim Dawn because the current state of PoE isn't what it could be =)
@@laszlolovasz7853 Here you go: www.grimtools.com/calc/Q2zq6aAN - please note that I am still tweaking and upgrading it =)
👨🏫Here's your guide:
1) 0:31 The atmosphere
2) 1:27 Pace & difficulty
3) 3:35 It's about the journey
4) 5:07 The endgame
5) 9:52 The loot
6) 13:21 The complexity
7) 15:39 The build diversity
8) 18:54 The devotion tree
9) 22:13 The community
10) 23:42 Mod support
Nice job, thanks!
You the real MVP!
thanks man...i cant bare to listen to this guy talking and the sound coming from his nose..
Honestly most of it was BS let's just say what it is, it's another copy pasta game it's not as unique as he tried to make it
@@dorittossenpai2268 Disagree. For sure some of his points may be repetitive and for sure Grim Dawn may not be ground shattering or mind blowing. However, GD is still a solid game and no where close to a cheap copy pasta. Many of the points made by this video stand.
Excellent review of a gem of an ARPG. Another great thing about Grim Dawn is - you can play it Offline.
In fact it is a hudge drawback that kills the game
@@pavelkulinich3354 How does it destroy the game??
@@shtroizn
Very simple. Because of the fact that the game is not online, devs don't pay attention to it's security. well, it is impossible. So we have alot of different utility programms for GD now including GD Stash. It basicly kills any reason to farm and grind. Beacuse why would you spend your time for this, if you can get any item you need? You just finish the game once and that's it. Well, you can try out some more builds with all the sets and items you want, but it will take you a couple of days.
See what i mean? No sense to play, trying to get an item you need ot some currency to trade this item from another player or soma materials for crafting...
@@pavelkulinich3354 I see. Well - I play single player and don't bother with farming - I just enjoy trying different builds and running the campaign, but I understand what you are saying. Still - Grim Dawn is a great game imo and the devs seem friendly and attentive from my experience.
@@pavelkulinich3354 you can say that about any offline game but cheaters are often overwhelming minority cuse what';s the point of buying game jsut to cheat it?
I view offline as a plus cause it never have any issues with server stability (which of poe is well known for)
You're actually a fantastic reviewer. I thought your niche was build guides, but I'm quite surprised how well you put this together.
And as a Grim dawn player myself (over 700 hours). You put my thoughts right into this better than I could express them myself!
You should definitely do more of this content.
Glad you enjoy Grim Dawn Lifting, thanks for the content!
Thanks mate and the same to you!
Oh, hey Mala? :)
Malagant is one of the first people i looked after when i started even few years back ^^ Very very thankful for Malagant's work, all kind of guides and most of it all LEVELING GUIDES for all classes aswell as speed runs...amazing !
It's a great game. You are 100% right i started playing last year and this game has the most friendly, helpfull and welcoming comunity ive ever seen.
Played TQ before so I got some experiences in ARPG. Normal/Veteran is a cake walk, Elite is when real journey begins and while you might struggle you would eventually finish it but in ultimate, especially in your first character you wont be able to progress unless you know how this game work. 580hrs in game and climbing more.
Great to see you covering Grim Dawn! Just got back into the game after a year away this past weekend. Would love to see some of your builds.
Yeah you hooked me. Just bought it and it's downloading now. Again thank you so much for doing this video. I can't believe I had never heard of this game
Glad to hear it mate, have fun with it!
@@LiftingNerdBro been playing nonstop! Great game
Got this from the GoG Summer Sale that started yesterday... WOW what an amazing game. Havent had this much fun since Darkstone!
OMG Darkstone was soooooo good! I really hope for a remake one day.
Same devs that made Titan quest, the only thing lacking from that game was the atmosphere and gore, which this game has in spades
Mybe the best ARPG atm, no joke. I like the pace of the game, atmosphere, story, content, best Devs... ARPG fans wont be disapointed, highly recommend!
OH PLEASE! It's a mod-based ARPG with a community full of people who quite literally edit their way into endgame with GD Stash-allowing them to create any item in the game on the spot, & giving them access to a slew of other game-breaking features that they can take into multiplayer without penalty.
Grim Dawn is great if you're into single player ARPG's that allow unfettered access to modding, but the game is a total flop from the multiplayer perspective, as the modding stands as a bulwark against anything even remotely resembling an interactive & thriving multiplayer experience. And analyzing this game's Total Sales : Current Players ratio shows that only something like 0.3% of the total # of people who have purchased the game actively play it (And just 3 weeks after a major DLC launch). I'd argue those numbers suggest that most people who purchase the game get bored of it once they realize that the multiplayer aspect of the game is made to be exceptionally boring & shallow due to the modding.
And if anyone reading this thinks I'm exaggerating about the modding, just take 10 minutes or so to Google "GD Stash", & find a video going over everything it can do. It's essentially an in-game God Tool that you can use in multiplayer without risk of bans or suspensions; & it's also arguably the primary reason why this game has no thriving economy.
@@Vincere1105 It is not an online multiplayer game. It is a single player game primarily, with multiplayer capability if one wishes. Vast difference from PoE or D3 in this regard. But you likely knew this already and your comparison is disingenuous. No one is claiming that GD is the online multiplayer ladder king - or even contestant. By all means, if you are in it for multiplayer competition, look elsewhere.
@@triggermortis8252 I was & still am under the impression that the key takeaway from my comments above is that this game is, & I quote myself, "great if you're into single player ARPG's that allow unfettered access to modding", but a total flop outside of the realm of single player experience. I never stated that GD was primarily a multiplayer game, nor did I insinuate that.
Mentioning Grim Dawn's failure in the realm of multiplayer experience is absolutely valid if you consider the sheer amount of publicity this game is getting from content creator's who specialize in, & have built a fan base around, online multiplayer games like PoE (I mean hello, we're in LiftingNerds comment section right now after all). I'd wager that Grim Dawn's concurrent player base is so low relative to the total number of copies sold specifically because of how many fans of multiplayer ARPG's find their way to Grim Dawn before realizing that it has no real potential whatsoever as a multiplayer game.
With that said, I think my criticism is absolutely valid. And I'll go even further to warn anyone reading this not to waste their money on Grim Dawn unless they don't mind grinding what is effectively a single player ARPG.
@@Vincere1105 You did insinuate that when you shouted down the OP when they mentioned nothing at all about multiplayer - but instead the "pace of the game, atmosphere, story, content". No one plays multiplayer games for these aspects, other than perhaps pace. You brought them into the conversation so that you could compare it PoE. Lifting did not compare it, other than to mention similar complexity. Perhaps he enjoys GD as a change of pace from the crappy loot drops and "economy" simulator? Anyways - PoE is great if you are into it. GD is also great if that is your style. And gamers are allowed to enjoy both.
03. It's about the journey
Amen, brother! I'm sick and tired of „content creators” theorycrafting builds and telling noobs to rush to lvl 94 so they can „fully experience” the game with X and Y set that is OP.
The best part of the game for me is the leveling to 94. Having to min-max OA, DA, devotions and resists is a real challenge and that's where the fun resides.
Grim Dawn is my favourite ARPG currently and I hope they keep bringing wonderful content to it.
1k hours on POE, watching this video made me buy the game and give it a chance, even used your link
When i first tried it, it was supposed to be just that, a little try.
Ended up playing Ennio Morricone´s The Good the Bad and the Ugly Theme in the Background and playing only Grim Dawn for 3 Days until i was through, its absolutely captivating, great atmosphere, controls nicely, has tons of depth (so much that after a few months im already out of it again) and even the Sidequests are pretty nice.
Just saw this vid and wanted to stop by saying this.
Yes you should definitely play it, the year doesnt matter, this will always be an extremely well done game.
Very good review and description of GrimDawn.
Considering jumping to GrimDawn from POE. I am lacking insperation for builds in POE right now.
Thanks mate! Yea give it a try. It is without a doubt worth its price tag =)
Grim Dawn is such a good game. The amount of times you can play and create new builds is endless!
Great review and I agree with your points. Very long, but there's a lot of content and QoL features (far more than people realise) in this, it really is the best ARPG around. I do feel like DLC should be addressed - although not required it really does round out and add to the full game and people who don't have it are missing out. This does make it quite expensive though.
I played Grim Dawn right after it came out of beta and before I really got into Path of Exile. Had one hell of a good time with it, but after 700 hours and 8 characters I got bored with simply running through the 3 difficulties with each character and then having nothing to do with them beyond the occasional Nemesis boss farming. That much is to be expected for a game by an Indie developer that you buy once and that doesn't have the ability to provide massive content updates every few months like PoE can thanks to its business model.
Came back for a bit with Ashes of Malmouth so there was some new stuff to do again, which was great for rekindling the fun for another while, but there still wasn't any real endgame system to use my now max leveled characters on (aside from Crucible which I wasn't a fan of.) The new expansion seems to finally add a procedurally generated endgame dungeon system akin to rifts in D3 and maps in PoE, so I'll definitely give Grim Dawn another whirl sometime these days. The fact that all my gear is basically useless thanks to the now lv100 level cap is a bit daunting but with more options to farm legendaries without needing to trade with players, the hunt is a big part of the fun.
Shattered Realms is not actually procedurally generated, it just takes "chunks" at random from the existing maps, places random enemies and hazards and possibly modifies the lighting.
I think the end game is now at least on a bar with PoE. And you don't have to run three difficulties anymore as you can buy a potion that allows character to skip right to ultimate (also getting all the WPs of normal and elite, as well as skill/stat point quest rewards)
Grimarrillion
Reign of Terror
Apocalypse
Zenith
Nydiamar
Path of Grim Dawn
Mods will give you a few thousand more hours to play with.
(edit) I should include NoblePaladin, as it has tbe Diablo 2 classes in Reign of Terror, but mostly because playing RoT makes me so nostalgic for Diablo 2 that I would rather go play that sometimes.
ezet what potion? I’m only 124 hours and haven’t found it.
@@gwynbleiddroach2589 actually not potion but savior's merit which you can buy asgra - cult supplier in the new act town
I love this game it feels like I'm playing Diablo II. So absorbing. I only wish they had more voice acting for some of the characters.
I'd rather pay 10$ with no voice acting then pay 20$ for possible crappy voice acting
@@DmytroBogdan but its 25$
@@pierreo33 wait for the sale ;)
Glad to see more love is given to this game despite the weird hate i've heard about it, its one of the games that i can play until the end and not get bored even once. The constant chase to improve but never strive to one shot enemies with any build (my moto) is what keeps me going, eggcellent review, subbed!
I had Grim Dawn on my wishlist for a while and a friend of mine was kind enough to give me Grim Dawn for free! So I was pretty happy about giving it a try, I bought the expansions myself to maximize my experience and went on to play the game, it took me about 42 hours to complete the main storyline from beginning of normal to the end of normal, but that is actually just the beginning, there are 2 more difficulties and I didn't even touch any of the faction grinding yet, which looks like a really awesome mechanic to make farming way more interesting.
Also trying to build out and perfect your character, trying diffirent devotion constellations to change the way you can play, the whole way you can customize your character is really awesome.
I'm really enjoying this game and I'm looking forward to getting my character up higher as we speak, I managed to reach lvl 60 when I finished the game (I did explore all the zones, I didn't even complete the side missions yet because I was trying to make up lost time with my friend), but currently playing on elite difficulty and now going to read up on the story, I'm looking forward to it.
An update on this comment? Considering grabbing while on sale
Here's a not too (kidding) fun fact! Grim Dawn is the first reason I'm into the ARPG genre and still being the best in my heart. (For the moment, I have like around 10+ characters both including softcore and hardcore, tho the longest gameplay so far is right around 250 hours, with the other's average around 50 hours because I haven't fully maxed out my second retaliation build)
I was just coming back to grim dawn yesterday I was wondering if I should get the DLC
I guess I now have an answer to that
You definitely want to get the expansions
They include more classes and story and so much more items
And overall you can support the developers even more so they will be able to make more such games.
I just recently bought the game, definitive version, at COG. I had trouble getting it to run. After 3 days of troubleshooting and tweaking, the problem was solved. All I had to do was make a character first. Hey, who knew? Now it's up and running, my biggest gripe was the teeny tiny text. I fixed that with a simple 2 in the right place in the init file. Overall, I'm loving it. Since respecing is a viable option, I'm just winging it for now. I managed to come up with a witch hunter class. Looking forward to seeing how that works out for me.
Hey bro, good vid, glad Grim dawn is getting the recognition it deserves recently!
This video has really tipped the scales for me, I really appreciate your review LNB. When I go to get this game I will most certainly use your link. Keep up the great work bro!
Thanks man! I hope you are going to like it! :)
The point about loot tables is very compelling. That's one thing I wish was different in POE. It's so much more rewarding when you can farm towards the exact item you need for your build, but that never happens because you can just buy the item you need. Unless you're playing SSF which honestly helps bring that feeling back. Even using the Fated prophecies for something you need feels great, but in trade league there's just no reason to do things yourself.
'Loot that I could use to improve my character', sigh, my memory is blurry of the last time I had this thought in poe. Probably sometime back in 2014 when I made my first minion/specter build and got 'Bones of Ullr'. I am a supporter of ggg since the lunch and by all honesty I am starting to get tired, Last 2 leagues have been quite incomplete and rushed, one league after three months doesn't seem to be an optimal direction ggg is taking. Nor am I satisfied with the forced super sonic speed builds we have to play in order to be able to complete the league content and get absolutely underwhelming rewards.
I genuinely hope that they will make enormous positive changes but in the meantime I will definitely try Grim Dawn , very exciting stuff.
Thank you Lifting for the great review as always.
I very much share that opinion. I will make a video at some point where I want to go over my current frustrations of the game.
Thanks mate. I hope you will like Grim Dawn.
I am a fairly new player at Grim Dawn ,playing necro atm. Your guide videos helped me a lot. Using the mods recommended and following a build guide from net. It is a smooth experience. I have played diablo games, poe and wolcen but this game is the game that I have been looking for. It is well worth to invest time and have fun. So thank you for making these videos.
I played this a little bit a while back & have been looking for something to play - this is piquing my interest, I may give it another shot now because of you. Thank you for this in-depth video, I’ve subscribed to your channel & plan on checking out more of your content! I appreciate when people do analytical videos on gaming like you seem to do here.
The best this about this game is that it works offline... so you can actually play it without a internet connection =]
Which d3 and poe can't do. I like the community as well
I will try it just because of this lol. My internet has been incredibly bad.
It's 2019 who doesn't have a constant internet connection?
@@Masshystericz Me.
And, if the devs die, anything else occurs, by being Offline it can live forever.
I have just come back to GD two days ago and purchased Forgotten Gods only yesterday. I am sorry to say that I missed your purchase-connection.
But seeing especially YOU praising the game makes me want to tackle it even more. Thanks for that, Bro!
Also, I am, as always, looking forward to updates on both GD and PoE from your side! Keep up the great work, mate!
I am glad to hear it man - it is such a great game if one can get properly into it =)
Been wanting to try this out for a while, looks really good.
Hey Lifting! Long time no see!
Awesome game, thank you! Same goes to the Titan Quest Anniversary lately.
I'm really glad that you and pohx are taking interest in grim dawn because it made me check it out and man that is hell of a great game.
I have a lvl 27 soldier/oathkeeper... Maybe not the best combo because it's my first time playing the game, but god I'm having lots of fun. Definitely way better than Diablo 3 and even Path of Exile
yea i was disappointed when i found out you were forced into builds in diablo 3 in order to be competitive. For example I had x4 the monster kills of my friend, but he was a higher paragon level than me
I don't know why, but I find myself coming back to watch this video all the time. I watch this video over and over. I don't know why. It's also 4am.
Nothing better to do huh loser?
@@Masshystericz well, your mom was busy. so we have nothing else to do
I bought it on the steam summer sale for 4.99. Have played 125 hours in 2 weeks. Great game.
Been playing Grim Dawn for years...Such a great game to pick up when PoE is getting a bit stale. Can always go back to grim dawn and have some fun. Have like 800 hours played on GD.
How should i put this, EVERY ARPG is like that once.
Story that you care, challenge that you face.
But as the game age, story becomes less of a concern for people who already spent years in that game.
POE , D2, D3 actually all have pretty engaging story for your first or 2nd time of your journey, then you would just skip it afterward.
This can 100% be said about Grim Dawn too. The magic of story wont be there forever because you're going to replay it again and again.
Also about difficulty, POE , D3 all has end game contents that's immensely difficult for you to challenge regardless how strong your characters becomes since Delve and GR scale infinitely.
Your criticism about POE/ D3 losing difficulty while Grim Dawn doesn't is an absurd one because not only it isn't quite true, it is also biased and ignorant in some way.
You're misunderstanding what he is saying.
Grim Dawn sets itself apart from PoE and D3 when it comes to the journey/questing, because you can choose how a lot of quests will end depending on what dialogue option you choose, it's not all one sided objectives (they do exist, of course) There are secret/hidden quest as well, you can target farm, and there is a reputation system, so exploration becomes more important than other ARPG.
Secondly he didn't say PoE and D3 didn't have difficult content. Using infinite scaling content as an example of difficulty is laughable, it's just a parser to see how far you can go before it becomes impossible because you're stats can't compete with the monsters stats. But if you compare what tier 1-10 mapping in PoE and Expert difficulty in Grim Dawn is like you would maybe understand what he means.
Apart from some bosses in PoE everything is getting one shot as you zoom through the map, it's not necessarily a bad thing but it is a difference between the games, the only time I worry about non-boss monsters in PoE is when they have an on death effect, you will almost never have to deal with their mechanics when they're alive because they don't even get to react to your character.
D3 is the worst example of difficulty because of it's itemisation, you farm your set - go into GR stun lock everything as you kill them off, sometimes luring mobs who got a charge skill first - then you hit a wall, so you have to do lower GR, farm out a better version of the set and repeat until there's no way to pass the wall.
@@atropheusl8602 I agree... PoE becomes mindless currency trader in endgame... more useful to get gear.. and killing mobs is not fun, its either u got random out of screen 1 shotted.. or u just snowball and kill everyone on screen without them even trying to hit you..
I prefer having less mobs perhaps, but actually mobs who stuns, or does something, so poisitioning or actually actively thinking how to play and survive means something...
not to mention how shit the poe engine is... every bi-season the game just crashes, random bugs etc... with every season u dont know if ur able to play it or not...
whozoa my dude
i can get ur p passionate about the games but calling someone ignorant or bias over it is a bit of a silly term
Grim Dawn is currently on sale at GOG.com for just US$4.99 (or GBP £4 here in the UK).
Perfect timing, I took a break from POE and started playing Grim Dawn about 2 weeks ago... Look forward to build guides and advanced concepts..
Lifting, check the new expansion of Titan Quest - Atlantis, mate,. Also you can make a review for the players that dont know it so they may try and enjoy this ever giving game that is 15 years old and is the predecessor of Grim Dawn (same devs).
That could also be worth it for 2020.
Thanks for this content. I am a player of D1 / D2 / D3 and Path of exile, and recently with all the bugs and problem in PoE, I was looking for a game in this style.
Here I go o/
Thank you again
playing since beta up until now..and haven't finished the entire game in HC mode! can't seem to stop playing this marvelous game.
Love the Grim Dawn lore over PoE. Maybe I should consider buying a copy of this game.
Do it! It's a great ARPG :-D
I like Grim Dawn because items fall on the ground that I actually want. POE has removed this feature from the game.
its amazing how much better this game is than Diablo 3
and it was probably made with 1/10th the budget
LOL. Its not better. Not even close
Kickstarter, straight donations, Early Access purchases I'd say probably less then 3-4 million budget (Crate only has 13 people to it).
@@Rokabur They also modded the shit out of some ancient engine which takes 13 devs no time to produce a game..
I would be more on board with the game if it did 2 things..
First, made the game in a modern engine..
and 2nd, they had secure online play..
If it had both those things I would never trash this game. But don't say its better than d3.. Its not even close.
Loved D3 myself. Will try out this game now!
And Boss were so diverse aswell, it not just how boss attack element def etc etc but they have Unique spell or skill that you have to watchout, planning and timing or every can goes wrong real quick.
I bought this last night (but havent installed it yet) and I'm looking forward to my weekend. What really looks interesting to me is the gear customization, recipe system, the skill triggers in the devotion system, the devotion system in general, and the duel class system.
Im a Diablo player, but want to try something new...tried Path of Exile but it doesnt grab me. This looks very very cool ! Im gonna get it :)
Switched from PoE to GD... actually runs smooth ;)
I really, really like certain aspects of this game. I have taken several characters to 100. Here's why I stopped playing:
1) The devotion tree or constellation. I love upgrading characters, but this thing is just so mind numbingly confusing as to which nodes to pick to optimize my character that I basically just gave up. If you mess up early and don't unlock the right nodes, to unlock the other right nodes, then you will be behind on leveling end game skills and when you get to Ultimate you will get destroyed as you will probably get destroyed on Ultimate anyways. The game basically forces you to look up other peoples builds or get annihilated when you get to Ultimate. which brings me to #2....
2) Difficulty. Man. The end game on GD is absolutely BRUTAL. If you haven't found good gear, Ultimate will eat your lunch, take your lunch money and beat your ass for crying about it. I found myself looking up builds (which I HATE doing, I like building a character I want to play....) because if you just build a character that "sounds good" to you... Ultimate will tear you apart.
3) The solo slog through the lower difficulties. I will combine 2 gripes here. First is multiplayer. It is really, really bad in this game. So, you get to slog your way through the story mode of the game by yourself most of the time and the first 2 difficulties are basically pointless. Elite provides a decent challenge and Ultimate destroys you. The grind became too much basically and the multiplayer is the worst of all of the ARPGs that I play. I like playing these games with friends, but, yeah.... the join system is from the 90s or thereabouts.
Mainly... The constellation is my main problem. I HATE looking up builds to see what I "should" pick... but, with the way the devotion tree is set up, if you don't do a cookie cutter build, then you most likely will choose wrong and screw your character for Ultimate. It's sad because I think I like the actual gameplay of this game better than every other ARPG in existence. I really think they need to add more constellation points or something. There are so many awesome skills and it seems you are really limited on which you can choose.
I'm really wanting it, just 2 things holding me back:
1. Level scaling (hopefully not THAT much of a big deal)
2. Price - Or specifically the absence of any kind of sale.
I'm a big fan of post apocalyptic, western and victorian themes, so the atmosphere is right up my alley. I adore it for the fact that it isn't another mythical/medieval themed arpg.
Humble bumble has frequently discounted that price
you convinced me I have game downloading now, I had it on wishlist long time but price was a little scary, now when I got it on discount and watched your video you convinced me and btw great video mate.
Thank you for this video. I got so goddamn sick of the constant crashes of Path that I went looking around and realized that I have the base game for Grim Dawn (god only knows who gave it to me.) This video was incredibly helpful.
You don't have to restart a character to select a new mastery. Remove all points from the mastery and relog the character and you'll be given the option to select a new mastery.
If you've placed any points in the Mastery itself (bar at the bottom), those points can't be refunded, and thus you can't refund the mastery without a new character/using a third-party tool.
Soon i will reach 1500 hours in GD, brutal awesome game, one of the best in the genre! I like nearly everything in it. Though it would be cool to have the stash NPC closer to us in town(s), also to make mule chars easier to make, not to tied to the Reanimator Boss kill, and have more space in the stash, yes i'm a hoarder i know. If i would nitpicking, i would mention the multiplayer i mean no dedicated servers, but hey, Crate Entertainment is still a small team, so it's okay in this case. Otherwise it's a gem, story/loot/progression etc. top notch! Forgotten Gods expansion is over the top also, can't get enough of this game! They deserve the money for all GD content! They sell it way under the price. Cheers! :)
About the stash space, have you tried checking out Grim Dawn Item Assitant? It is amazing for that purpose =)
@@LiftingNerdBro Not yet mate, might check that someday. 👍💪😎
thanks for the video LNB, I forgot I had this game in my library, I will definitely revisit this and check out the expansions.
Everytime I play D3 or POE...I keep getting pulled back to Grim Dawn. I love it, I just got Ashes in the last steam sale, and I will pick up Forgotten Gods when I get to the end of Ashes.
I very much agree with reason number two for why D3 and PoE is just a rush through spam
I just got this game. It felt so slow coming from Poe, but it’s so worth it. I hope we get more games like this.
Thanks for the idea, LiftingNerdBro :)
And thanks GGG for changes in 3.7 PoE, which made me wanna try Grim Dawn instead.
Well, crap, I just paid full price for this 3 days ago....still, this game is worth it. A true successor to D2 IMHO.
This game has the right amount of complexity for me. I don’t feel like I need a doctorate in builds to play this game like certain other games(PoE). Since nothing except mastery is permanent you can learn as you go and fix your mistakes once you learn what mistakes you made.
This was a very nice, and informative video :) A couple of friends and I have talked about getting into the game and this definately helped! It's also nice to hit more danish youtubers!
I just start the game before 3-4 days and gonna buy the first expansions today also meet already few friendly guys and we grind together which make game even better.
the best ARPG at the moment
Great video!
Like many others i've dived back into the game as well and am suprised at how little i have seen so far from the endgame.
Btw, u forgot 1 other thing thats also something that makes it so good and thats Secrets! this game has so many secret stuff, from loot behind a wall to secret quests and bosses(like Lokarr) something u don't see much anymore in todays games.
True I was thinking that to myself just earlier too. Grim Dawn is one of the few arpg’s that actually feel fun to go exploring in :)
Thank you for Grim Dawn content! Getting back into the game due to your videos and buying the expansions through your Humble link.
#11, The secrets! This game has tons, and finding them should def be on the list.
really good review and great game too, ..only downside i feel is theres way too much loot i think....loot shud be a bit rarer..so its more rewarding wen u get it
Grim Dawn is an amazing game ans it is soooo overlooked all the time it does not get half the respect it deserves. I Own the two expansions, currently going through the freaking swamp, keep daying on those " Extra hard places" where your stats are reduced. I am level 55 so maybe i ma not ready for that yet....has anyone encountered the difficulty really ramping up after the main campaign is over?? I am not complaining i actually embrace the challenge but i did noticed. Great game......
+yasmani perez yea the difficulty of Ashes of Malmouth is definitely a bit higher. Make sure you are capping or at least getting the relevant resistances up. Also it is completely fine to save some of the areas for later :)
Grim Dawn is $7.50 on humble bundle now, if you've wanted to grab the game for a bit I'd recommend getting it now.
I found this video and i just bought grim dawn 2 weeks ago what a coinsidence !!! Love the video bro
I was feeling really powerful and then I unlocked Ultimate...that's a challenge :-)
Haha yea very true. Make sure you make good use of augments and components to fix resistances etc, that makes a big difference =)
Grim Dawn is amazing. I have 1000s oh hours played in ARPGs and this game is hands down the best ARPG since Diablo II.
even though I got this game way before I saw your videos, they helped me to understand the game better. I completely forgot that I could 'power level' my characters in the crucible, lol
This video motivated me a lot to play the game, now i just want to learn as much as i can about the game. you have a new sub here.
Thanks man, glad to hear it! =)
i got this for an unbeatable bargain of 4 bucks on a steam sale and i wish i could get into it, especially as i disbanded this sort of game after diablo 2....it should be perfect. it's just i don't play video games like that anymore....for everybody else, who still thinks this sounds like a perfect title: even the normal price of i think 15 bucks is ridiculous. absolute must buy.
you've convinced me. now i just need to get that necro dlc
I think the biggest magnets to this game that should be highlighted is the balance, all classes and almost all spells are perfectly valiable - and the pace. PoE sadly heavily suffers in the balance realm (in top 10 builds of 3.8, there is 7 witch builds, 6 of them are necromancer and most of them are minion specs..), it is always flavor of the season... on the same class - witch. The pacing is kinda ridiculous, you move way too fast and you wipe screens of enemies, although satisfying at first, it becomes rather dull.
Also GD's perfomance is much better, now, its graphics are less detailed than poe's for sure, but you wont get drop to 1 fps because of an NPC spawn, ever, you wont get server DC's because GD is offline. Playing with friends is worthwhile in GD and you can really synergize builds insread of just one being glasscannon and second heal bot. Also the number of "skins" that look good you get is unmeasurably higher than PoE's (all FREE poe skins suck besides some uniques), and you can apply any skins you have found on your acc, for the in game "gold", no premium currency, same with stashes etc.
The build complexity is prolly deeper than PoEs. PoE kinda pretends to be hyper complex but than all you really need is either max your energy shield or go for the health rectangle... and then just +damage nodes of your choice. In GD, you have the double class system and devotion on top of it, where devotion is similiar to passive tree, but it actually also gives actives and spell modifications. You also have better crafting and attuning in GD. There is just way too many positives for that game. It is also not owned by chinese online investor company lol.
I'm hoping this game runs better than PoE does, since I basically can't plat that game anymore (since removal of Directx9 support). I'm gonna bet that the slower pace and less visual clutter in the screen makes my potato able to run it lol
So much love for such a great game! Thanks for the review, hope more player will enjoy that great game because of your review. Cheers mate!
I hope Chaosbane turns out as good as this gem!
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Got the game thanks to this video and it's wonderful. Thank you! I look forward to buying all DLC for it. Yes, even the supporter packs! ^^
They should make a Grim Dawn Anime, in the vein of Castlevania.. I would watch the FUCK out of it
I just bought the game today, for $3.99 on gog, cheaper than on steam or humble bundle, I watched your video just to get an idea of the game, because I've never heard about it (yeah, silly me lol) I'm really looking forward to this journey. Thanks for the review!
sydgerald did it come with the dlc? If so can you provide me the link bro?
@@terror0x I don't think so, since I posted I had to travel and I haven't played much, but today I get back home and I'll check, I'll let you know. But I do remember there were a lot of items for sale, so the dlc's might have been sold separately, but they were still cheap.
sydgerald thnx man ill way then
@@terror0x hello mate, I've just checked and the dlc's are sold separately, but not expensive crucible is $2.29 ashes of malmouth being the most expensive is, $8.58 last weekend they were on sale, the link is gog.com/game/grim_dawn I hope it helps.
I've never heard of this game. It looks awesome! I am definitely going to try it. I absolutely hate have fast path of exile is so this slower paced game looks very tempting to me. I love the diablo series so again, perfect fit. Thank you for doing this video and bringing it to our attention!
Bought it on sale. Playing GTA 5 because I just got it at the same time. I'm probably going to play it in conjunction with GTA 5.
Said that,can we hope those beautiful guides for builds from you,ma friend? I hope you say a big yes.. :)
It’s the plan yes! :)
@@LiftingNerdBro ah boi,now we're talking xD
Thanx for the great content about Poe ,btw. Never stop lift!
I've bought this game at the moment when it came out and still love it :)
Great video Lift! Thanks!
Port Valbury, Malmouth and Necropolis are my all time favorites
You can complete a main story (4 Acts) in like 8 hours and then spend another 50 hours chasing that perfect build you'd want with that character.
A note about notes (possible SPOILERS):
I found a note about trolls kidnapping young women for their love affairs... OK, that is weird I thought, then in Malmouth there is a incubator room where women used to breed hordes of monsters... OK, now THAT is creepy!
Just bought it for 7.50$ instead of 25$ on steam, thank you gaben, very cool!
Almost 4 minutes in so far. Excellent video. I can only buy the base game atm. Is that enough for a good experience? Or will I feel like I don't have the complete experience without the expansions? Will I be level capped without the expansions? Those will prevent me from late-game farming until I buy them. Thanks :)
Coming from another Dane this review is spot on. I just saw that i clocked over 1k hours in this game :D