@@rossember4653 keep it at the banlist (well, it will be a permanent one I tough), but keep the original effect *Basically undo the erata at the cost of keeping it on a banlist
Chaos Emperor Dragon is one of my all time favorite cards and luckily I have the original version and not the bullshit errata version. I even have a deck that uses that Yata lock. It's my best deck but I would never be able to use it in a competition because it has quite a few banned cards in it so I never bother. I just duel my other decks. It's not quite as fun as dueling someone else but I don't know anyone in my area who still plays Yugioh so I make due.
At least, he is a monster with 3000 ATK who is easy to summon. But you are right, this errata FUCKING sucks, we can get 3 copies of him just because of it.
I read the card, and it said "banish the card face up" not "Banish a face up monster". That means if a set monster was banished, it would flip face up if the effect was not negated
I would have preferred that Konami never did an errata on Chaos Emperor Dragon. Doing an errata turning a broken card into one that won’t ever see the light of day, better keep the legend alive on the banlist forever if need be.
Black Luster Soldier is an /unofficial/ chaos monster? Dude, the Japanese name of Black Luster Soldier IS Chaos Soldier. It IS an official chaos monster.
Fun fact about Dark End Dragon and its counterpart, despite being Synchro monsters in the TCG, they were shown in the GX manga, which pre-dated Synchros
I still remember praying to the Chaos Gods, the day I opened my pack and got my first Chaos Emperor Dragon. I remember praying when I was sat there against my cousin, with my Dark Magician and Blue Eyes in the graveyard, 1300 LP left vs his 2350. No cards in my hand, but 3 facedowns. He had a full board of monsters. And then I top-decked the Envoy of the End. That was when my prayers were answered. And I knew God. Not Obelisk, not Slifer, not Ra. The Envoy of the End was the one true God of this game. And then they BROKE him.
In the old format Chaos Emperor was certainly a God whit Yata Garazu, but now the God in the Chaos Format is Chaos Angel, an absolutly broken flootgate
Wasn't Sangan also part of the Emperor Dragon combo, where you'd have Sangan on the field, blow it up with Emperor Dragon, use Sangan to get Yatagarasu in your hand, then ballgame?
I was about to say that, how could anyone pull off the Yata-lock if all the cards on the field and in the hand were sent to the graveyard? But you just reminded me of Sangan.
What would the criteria be? Best out of the box? Best premiers? Do we include the R structure decks as they are just revamps of already released decks? If yes to the last one, then Dinosmasher Fury and the Ancient Gear R would probably make Top 5. The Zombie World R and Six Samurai decks as well. Soulburner and Revolver both have some great cards and they aren't officially categorized as Character Structure Decks. Would we even count those though as most of them were just released as Starters in the TCG? Sorry, but this idea got my wheels turning.
@@ShadowArmyDes Depends on the Structure deck. Newer ones tend to include powerful staples like Raigeki being in the Charmer deck. The Soulburner and Revolver structure deck might be the best to build a deck out of if you can get 2-3 since they include most of the key cards for their respective strategies. Dinosmasher's Fury has everything for a Dinosaur deck save for the EARTH True King. The Ice Barrier structure deck coming soon looks promising, but more so for the expected staples.
Actually, the "Black Luster Soldier" archetype IS officially part of the Chaos archetype, And is a sub-archetype of it, as it’s the "Chaos Soldier" archetype in the OCG. Which is why cards that support Chaos Ritual Monsters also support BLS monsters - it’s a Frog the Jam case for an entire archetype.
Something I noticed is cyber dragon and cyberdark (plus chimeratech) fits a kind of spiritual succession to chaos, fitting because the cyber dragon and cyberdark entered in yugioh GX, which was full of spiritual succession like funnily, cyber dragon for blue eyes
I like this video because of how you gave Duel Links insight to the discussion and also historical insights (such as the very high placement of Chaos Sorcerer). Chaos Sorcerer will deserve the number 3 spot even more now that it's released in Duel Links.
Magician of Chaos (Ritual Monster lvl 7), and it’s name is treated as Dark Magician on the field. Once per turn, during either players turn, when a card or effect is activated (this is a quick effect), target one card on the field, destroy it.
Norleras had top deck shenanigans with Feather of a Phoenix and The Dark Creator and Phantom of Chaos. Was fun to use. It got nerfed when Reasoning got Limited and Dark Magician of Chaos (pre-errata) got banned. Not the Yata-lock but it was kinda something Chaos Emperor Dragon couldn't and still can't do.
My chaos deck was always my absolute favourite deck and also by far the strongest one back in the days when I played against friends. I lost only like two times and built all around my Chaos Dragon and my Chaos Sorcerer.
I mean, English is a pretty retarded language, since it's not phonetically consistent. Letters basically mean nothing, so there technically cannot be a wrong pronunciation. I like the language for it's easy grammar, but just thinking about Worcestershire Sauce grinds my gears.
Do top 10 meta decks of all time, with criteria being how strong they were for their time. So any deck that was tier 0 or close to it or just a deck that saw lots of play
@@alitugen2616 The sin thing was because of its religious connotations, same reason they used censor any Christian imagery on cards, and even refused to print the original Monster Reborn with its Ankh.
If the ancient effect of Chaos Emperor Dragon seems very strong to you, you should see the effect of the Chaos and Ruler in the anime ... that effect is at another level.
konami needs to just make an official.ruling that replaces any instance of "when a card is sent" to "if a card is sent" and fix the whole problem of cards missing timing for no reason
They did it as a way to slow down the power crept, like the differences between dark world and fabled is timing. Dark world use if discard by effect, fabled use when discarded by cost or effect. But as you can see, danger broke the discard mechanic.
@@greyroot00 That's not so much the wording issue. It's more of Darkworlds having to be discarded during an effect. Whereas the discard cost you pay to activate an effect didn't count.
"When" is specifically printed for balancing. When Lightpulsar was first announced, it's effect said "if" rather than "when". Shortly after the announcement, a few players discovered a busted (at the time) FTK combo involving it, Darkness Metal, and Cannon Soldier. Konami realized it and preemptively erratad the card so the combo was impossible.
@@Shay96 in this game, wording matters a lot. As you said dark world will not activate if discarded as cost, but fabled does. But fabled will only work if the fabled being discarded (as effect) is the last thing that happened at resolution chain (not sure about simultaneous effect such "and if you do" tho). This makes fabled is not outright power crept dark world.
@@greyroot00 The only Fabled monster that can miss timing is Peggulsus. Only optional effects can miss timing, and the rest of the Fabled cards that trigger on discard are mandatory.
Note that also factoring into the power of some of these cards was something that doesn't exist anymore: Ignition Priority. Today, when you successfully summon a monster, there is a window where trigger and fast effects canhappen. "Summon successful" is a closed gamestate. In the past, an ignition effect can be used in this window, such as that of the freshly summoned Brionac or Chaos Sorcerer.
I created a whole new set of cards to expand the archetype to deal more with banishing with the LIGHT/DARK theme being secondary, so I'm pleased to see a video from you covering this. Maybe in the future we can have a contest to see who in the community can make the best new "Chaos" cards?
Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning will forever be my favorite Chaos monster and I always have at least one copy in my deck. It’s also the first Yugioh card I ever received
Top ten best 0/0 ATK/DEF monsters. That sounds interesting. To be honest, I'm primarily suggesting this because Chaos Necromancer is a card that can get a really high stat really easily. Admittedly, it's a dead draw on the first turn, but still. A few turns in, and it's overpowering stuff like Blue-Eyes off the bat.
when i was a kid i ran chaos sorcerer and all of my friends complained that it was banned but i still played it since it was the only good card i had to shut down their bullshit boss monsters
Been the better part of 20 years and Chaos is still awesome as fuck! Every chance i get i go back to playing chaos and/or zombies when its non competitive.
I knew Wyverburster and Collapserpent would be on here. Two of the best generic level 4 floaters in the game. Before Master Rule 4 they helped my Junk Doppel deck go from zero to hero really quick
Personally shocked that DMOC didnt make this video. In my eyes DMOC, BLS and CED were always the holy trinity of chaos. The big 3, and then konami nerfed 2 to fuck
Just to mention on the Yata Lock - you need Sangan on the field when Chaos Emperor Dragon activates its effect, then you search out Yata-Garasu and attack your opponent with it. They can't draw and have no cards so you win by default
In video games, if your opponent is locked down by Yata-Garasu, they auto-surrender. Sangan and Witch of the Black Forest also got errata'd/nerfed anyway so yeah, even if you searched out Yata now, you can't pull off the lock that same turn. You'd need to kill their next draw with something like Drop-Off. Yata-Garasu is a one-card lock-down if your opponent has no field and hand and just can't do anything at all to stop it. Chaos Emperor Dragon + Witch/Sangan back in the day just made it so much easier to pull off. In an old GBA game (was only I think up to the Pharonic Guardian set), with no ban list, a lot of one-sided hand destruction and lots of field removal, that was the Yata lock for the game.
Funnily enough, comboing this card with divine dragon lord felgrand and another dark dragon such as red eyes darkness metal dragon (or light and darkness just cuz I'm a klutz player and its a childhood card for me in my deck) and then special summoning felgrand made it extremely useful to get felgrand effect to pop off AND have lightpulsor to defend yourself or play offense if needed
Me too, however i might side deck him, and only use him for getting rid of decks that stall, BLS is always a must however im starting to like Chaos Dragon Lev
My boy made #3! YEAH! I used to run chaos Sacred Phoenix back in the day, and it was great at locking people down. Until they learned they could use change of heart on my #3 and use its effect on Phoenix xp
I think you're underestimating Lightpulser Dragons graveyard effect. Sending a light and dark monster from your hand the the graveyard is a really good effect in chaos decks as it gives you more summoning matrieals while also giving you a 2500 beat stick with a good floating effect. I mean it can get you out of some bad situations.
You'd need stuff in your hand that doesn't care about being in the Graveyard for it to be beneficial. Going -2 is far from ideal unless you're gonna win the game that turn.
But with chaos decks you want resources in the graveyard so get two there while getting a monster on the field with a useful floating effect is actually really good. Sometimes going -2 which you're actually only going -1 since you are getting a monster out is more beneficial then keeping cards in your hand.
@@brycebeechman9435 Not quite the point I was trying to make. Like, if you send something from your hand to the Graveyard, it had better serve a better purpose rather than just summoning a monster. You're still going -2 when you can get resources to the Graveyard without going -anything. Armageddon Knight can send you that DARK monster you need without going minus for example as it sends it from your deck (you lose your Normal Summon sure but Special Summoning exists). Dark Grepher's similar but is a minus from your hand so you can send from your deck though it's a very good minus. The point is, you don't want to go minus unless you can get that minus back in some way.
Actually I noticed that if I pulled off CED's effect I tended to win the game even with the errata. It set up the graveyard for me to do other plays and since some chaos decks that aren't chaos dragons aren't the fastest decks in the world, they can afford to wait a turn before taking advantage of other effects. However if you have a chaos deck that wants to banish stuff, the two best monsters for that are still Chaos Sorcerer and BLS. Chaos Dragon Levianeer apparently isn't technically part of the archetype because of a lack of the kanji denoting it as such but that may have changed
Richard the Pastamancer brought up DMOC, which could have had an honourable mention due to being on the banned list for its effect. Also the new DM re-train, Magician of Chaos, can summon a BLS/Chaos ritual monster with its effect as well. IMO, The perfect time to honourable mention BLS-Super Soldier would have been with BLS-Envoy's section, since it encompasses the effect of Armory Arm already, and has support like Super Soldier Synthesis requiring Light/Dark material. But if you specifically use Beginning/Evening Twilight Knight, designed for it's ritual summon, it would have 5+ effects upon completion.
Chaos archetype is one of my favorite archetype, summoning BLS super soldier using B.knight and ET.knight was insane Super soldier had 2 banishes and 2 attacks which can deal 6k damage on his own if it destroyed at least 1 monster
Probably something that has been brought up before, but I would love to see chaos extra deck monsters that specifically require at least 1 light and 1 dark monster. ie a fusion that requires 1 of each, synchros that require 1 light tuner and 1+ dark non tuners and vice versa, an xyz that requires a 1 each, and a link that requires 1 each. As far as I'm aware, the only "true" chaos extra deck monsters are chaos goddess and chaotic magical dragon. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong or missing any. Also, not a competitive player, but anyone know if goddess or chaotic magical dragon have seen or see play? Edit: just from reading chaotic dragon, I wouldn't be surprised if it was at least a side deck in decks that run light or dark monsters and can make lv 8 synchros
Awesome channel Duel Logs! Been subbed for a while. I wanted to suggest if you haven't done one a top ten remove from play cards in Yugioh. Also can someone explain the effect of the trap card Elemental Absorber? I'm confused about this cards effect because does the banished monster have to stay removed from play or can I return the monster and my opponent's same attribute monsters still can't attack? Like if I play the trap in my deck can I then use any of my ways to return the monster back to play and still have the effect or does the monster have the stay banished for Elemental Absorber's effect to stay active?
Can I extend honorable mentions to Blue-Eyes Chaos MAX Dragon and Blue-Eyes Chaos Dragon, their effects have nothing to do with Chaos monsters but they have Chaos in their name plus they see competitive play using Impcantations as an engine.
Chaos Emperor Dragon, the errata doesn't matter, you'll always remain one of my favorite monsters. I would play it 4x if it was possible... I need a Chaos Emperor Dragon in my duelist life.
I understand that the Number C And the CXYZ monsters do require setup to get out, but in many cases, they are really good, and are worth putting the effort in to bring out.
Black Luster Soldier Sacred Soldier is actually super good in red eyes decks. It just gets summoned for free if the slash dragon it’s equipped to is destroyed.
I love these videos and I always learn something new. I would love to see a top 10 on cards that weren't really used in the past/ when they first came out but are really good now a days.
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"see's chaos emperor dragon as #1" I guess you never heard of the most powerful chaos monster ever made? It's called Chaos end ruler- envoy of the beginning and the end. mainly because of it's effect of you pay 1000 life points then you banish all cards on your opponents side of the field, their hand and in their graveyard, then for every card banished inflict 500 damage to their life points for every card banished, meaning if you banished 16 cards....you win the duel immediately
Considering how much Dark Support there is, I'm wondering if they're ever going to match that with Non-Blue Eyes Light support. Maybe Salvation Knight as apposed to Armageddon Knight?
I think all attributes "knight" monster already exist (at least I see the light one in ocg). But most of their effects is not as Easy to trigger as Armageddon knight
Back when i still played i never even used CED for any massive play, i'd just turtle and whittle my opponents lifepoints down while filling up my field/hand as much as possible so that once CED's effect went through the duel was over. I mean think about it, a full hand and field on your side only already does 4500 lp worth of burn, not counting anything your opponent has or link/pendulum zones. If they also have a stacked field+hand its a insta-win as long as they dont have 9000+ lp.
You forgot to mention that they also nerfed the burn potential of the CED by changing his effect so that your opponents takes 300 points of damage for all cards sent to only their graveyard so CED's burn potential was cut in half. They could have made it just fine with the previous two nerfs but like with all cards which received erratas they went overboard and made the card garbage.
@@ShiningJudgment666 Exactly, right now BLS is a 1000 time better than CED. There is absolutely no reason to play CED over BLS. BLS aside from being a 3k beater also has two great effects. CED is useless and even if BLS was banned I doubt CED would see any kind of play.
Also, if We're not just talking monsters. Chaos End, and return from Different Dimension. God that was Armageddon on the field. Also Dark Magician of Chaos. Reborn it, Brings a spell back and 2800 beat stick. Ahhh the days of chaos, I'd like to see a max power ol school chaos deck with no Ban limitations (perhaps except for Yata)go up against a current meta deck. Would be interesting.
They nerfed Chaos Emperor Dragon way too hard in the new erratas. - You can't activate any other card effects the turn you would activate it's effect. (Which I believe was the only reasonable change to be made to the card) - Summon condition was changed from "Must first" to just "Must", meaning that you can't summon it with any revival effects e.g. Monster Reborn. - Now does less damage, as it is now based upon just how many cards your opponent has sent to the Graveyard, not both players combined, so it's hardly worth it as a game-finisher card. - It's Limited. They really just wanted to sell Levianeer and the prize card, didn't they...
Well, but we need to admit that the original CED is just to powerfull for the game. So the option is to lock it forever in the banlist (cause I'm quite sure that it will be too broken in any format) or give the errata *But I'm agree, it's being nerfed too much and at once (it might be understandable if it getting to that states after like 5 erratas because it's still too broken somehow. But kill it in one go is just too much
You only need 1 monster on your opponent's field for the BLS Armory Arm combo. BLS' double attack effect doesn't require there be a second monster to attack
Thunder Dragonduo has the ability to special summon itself from the hand by banishing one light and one dark monster from your graveyard. Would it be considered a Chaos card? And what about Magician of Black Chaos? Or Chaos Magician? 👀👀
Let’s get chaos decks to being either top tier or actually playable in today’s meta. I personally love the design of all the cards as well as have a great concept of light and dark to balance each other out
the erata to Chaos Emperor Dragon was a crime. Just retrain the card! Don't mess with the legend.
Retrain??
I think the same way, just make another card with same effect but with a downside. Let CED rest as a legend
@@rossember4653 keep it at the banlist (well, it will be a permanent one I tough), but keep the original effect
*Basically undo the erata at the cost of keeping it on a banlist
@@rossember4653 A "retrain" is when the card is different but the card art depicts the same monster. Think of Battle Ox vs Enraged Battle Ox.
Chaos Emperor Dragon is one of my all time favorite cards and luckily I have the original version and not the bullshit errata version. I even have a deck that uses that Yata lock. It's my best deck but I would never be able to use it in a competition because it has quite a few banned cards in it so I never bother. I just duel my other decks. It's not quite as fun as dueling someone else but I don't know anyone in my area who still plays Yugioh so I make due.
Chaos Emperor Dragon pre-errata: Boss monster of Epic proportions
Chaos Emperor Dragon post-errata: Not even played at table 500
A topping Thunder Dragon list from Irish nats teched an Emperor Dragon as a Melody target.
1 copy is too inconsistent if it was unlimited im sure some it could be a part of a tier 1 deck
At least, he is a monster with 3000 ATK who is easy to summon. But you are right, this errata FUCKING sucks, we can get 3 copies of him just because of it.
@@ThunderWolfUE 3 melodies and 1 dragon isn't that inconsistent it's a 10% chance in a 40 card deck.
@@ValVenusaur Main or side deck?
Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of The End & Chaos Soldier - Envoy of The Beginning are the real boss monsters in Yu-Gi-Oh. Let them rest as a legend.
You're not lying. The power of these cards remain legendary
The OG boss monsters
one little detail: BLS can banish any monster while chaos sorc can only banish face up monsters
Goat Format situations :)
Not just any monsters i think. Its banish any card
@@davidshiwlal9802 he was talking about the main deck version not the link monster
I'll banish you
I read the card, and it said "banish the card face up" not "Banish a face up monster". That means if a set monster was banished, it would flip face up if the effect was not negated
I would have preferred that Konami never did an errata on Chaos Emperor Dragon. Doing an errata turning a broken card into one that won’t ever see the light of day, better keep the legend alive on the banlist forever if need be.
I swear, they kinda ruined him with that he was legendary. Like a myth when i was a child. That's how strong he was back in the days
Jaden: "...He's crying. What have you done Konami!?"
Black Luster Soldier is an /unofficial/ chaos monster?
Dude, the Japanese name of Black Luster Soldier IS Chaos Soldier.
It IS an official chaos monster.
Someone did an Oopsi
That would explain why they made BLS cards chaos support. Not that it really matters for the video since I included BLS cards anyway
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its atack is chaos blade :v
Chaos Blaaaaaaaado
Fun fact about Dark End Dragon and its counterpart, despite being Synchro monsters in the TCG, they were shown in the GX manga, which pre-dated Synchros
1 Light Fairy and 3 Dark Fiends? Those don’t combo with each other!
*Laughs in Burning Abyss*
Or fluffals
@@Ev1lLion or ampcantacian
I still remember praying to the Chaos Gods, the day I opened my pack and got my first Chaos Emperor Dragon. I remember praying when I was sat there against my cousin, with my Dark Magician and Blue Eyes in the graveyard, 1300 LP left vs his 2350. No cards in my hand, but 3 facedowns. He had a full board of monsters. And then I top-decked the Envoy of the End. That was when my prayers were answered. And I knew God. Not Obelisk, not Slifer, not Ra. The Envoy of the End was the one true God of this game. And then they BROKE him.
In the old format Chaos Emperor was certainly a God whit Yata Garazu, but now the God in the Chaos Format is Chaos Angel, an absolutly broken flootgate
Yeah they didn't balance CED they neutered him, honestly, look at how they massacred my boy.
😆 nice Vito reference 👍
Wasn't Sangan also part of the Emperor Dragon combo, where you'd have Sangan on the field, blow it up with Emperor Dragon, use Sangan to get Yatagarasu in your hand, then ballgame?
Yes, and it also had its effect altered. Monsters which you search with Sangan are useless until your next turn.
@@r4nd0mguy99 Oh yeah, I forgot Sangan got nerfed, too. They really don't want anybody to be able to pull off that Yata nonsense.
It’s either him or Witch of the Black Forest
I was about to say that, how could anyone pull off the Yata-lock if all the cards on the field and in the hand were sent to the graveyard? But you just reminded me of Sangan.
Imagine using a big ass chaos emperor dragon only to set up for a tiny crow boy
Top 10 Structure Decks of all time would be interesting..
What would the criteria be? Best out of the box? Best premiers? Do we include the R structure decks as they are just revamps of already released decks?
If yes to the last one, then Dinosmasher Fury and the Ancient Gear R would probably make Top 5. The Zombie World R and Six Samurai decks as well. Soulburner and Revolver both have some great cards and they aren't officially categorized as Character Structure Decks. Would we even count those though as most of them were just released as Starters in the TCG?
Sorry, but this idea got my wheels turning.
@@MasterArchfiend How good will be a deck made out of those cards.
@@ShadowArmyDes Depends on the Structure deck. Newer ones tend to include powerful staples like Raigeki being in the Charmer deck. The Soulburner and Revolver structure deck might be the best to build a deck out of if you can get 2-3 since they include most of the key cards for their respective strategies. Dinosmasher's Fury has everything for a Dinosaur deck save for the EARTH True King. The Ice Barrier structure deck coming soon looks promising, but more so for the expected staples.
Calling it now without checking the video description! The first three spots are Chaos Sorcerer and the two Envoys.
Well, the pre-erata envoy. The "new" envoy of the end is kinda lackluster
There's more envoys than beginning and end
I called BLS the Chaos Warrior, was not disappointed.
@@danielak1666 No its spelled 'Black Luster' . 😂😂😂 kidding
Actually, the "Black Luster Soldier" archetype IS officially part of the Chaos archetype, And is a sub-archetype of it, as it’s the "Chaos Soldier" archetype in the OCG. Which is why cards that support Chaos Ritual Monsters also support BLS monsters - it’s a Frog the Jam case for an entire archetype.
Norleras isn't competitive by today's standards, but it actually did win an SJC back in the day!
Phantom of Chaos. Enough said. Norleras was never actually summoned on a competitive level.
I have always and still to this day been a Chaos player the deck is so strong swarming the feild with tough boss monsters, every turn is awesome.
Except you brick
Oof
@@ebolachan8198 and when we brick...we brick harddddddd
Spellcasters were really good for the Light and Dark attributes. Plus Spellcasters had pretty dang good support.
Considering that you mentioned chaos emperor pre erata I would have put DMOC as an honorable mention
Yes! Really good card
But DMOC doesn't really care about light or darks. I mean neither does the BLS link I suppose, but I don't think either should be here.
Wasn't Dark Magician of Chaos jumping on and off the ban/restricted list for a couple years?
@@amethonys2798 in Japan, BLS name is Chaos soldier. So yes, it's chaos cards
@@melvinshine9841 he was always banned after it got banned for the first time as i remember
Something I noticed is cyber dragon and cyberdark (plus chimeratech) fits a kind of spiritual succession to chaos, fitting because the cyber dragon and cyberdark entered in yugioh GX, which was full of spiritual succession like funnily, cyber dragon for blue eyes
Chaos Emperor Dragon an Black Luster won me every Game back then in School xD
I was also thinking that CHAOS was a hidden archetype that's really good on any deck, as long it has LIGHT and DARK in that deck.
I like chaos goddess the synchro card i love the artwork and it had a pretty good effect just hard to summon.
I like this video because of how you gave Duel Links insight to the discussion and also historical insights (such as the very high placement of Chaos Sorcerer). Chaos Sorcerer will deserve the number 3 spot even more now that it's released in Duel Links.
Top 10 cards to use for Spirit Monsters next?
Magician of Chaos (Ritual Monster lvl 7), and it’s name is treated as Dark Magician on the field. Once per turn, during either players turn, when a card or effect is activated (this is a quick effect), target one card on the field, destroy it.
They should make more dual element special summon cards like this. Like frost fire decks being water and fire. Or earth and air. Etc 😁
sky scourge has a board wipe ey?
chaos emperor dragon: hold my graveyard
Norleras had top deck shenanigans with Feather of a Phoenix and The Dark Creator and Phantom of Chaos. Was fun to use. It got nerfed when Reasoning got Limited and Dark Magician of Chaos (pre-errata) got banned. Not the Yata-lock but it was kinda something Chaos Emperor Dragon couldn't and still can't do.
My chaos deck was always my absolute favourite deck and also by far the strongest one back in the days when I played against friends. I lost only like two times and built all around my Chaos Dragon and my Chaos Sorcerer.
Haven't gotten to no.1 yet but who else thinks it is Chaos Emperor Dragon?
It was obvious lol
Bisaflorian it’s original effect is very overpowered
'White Dragon Wayvanburster'? Well it's not a duellogs video until something is pronounced badly
still recovering from his butchering of 'catastrophe'
@@breloommaster12 😂let by gones be by gones. He does have a good voice.
Even now, years later, no one really correctly pronounces hieratic. They're basically dragons for Egyptian gods, not heretics. Bygones be damned.
It's Wyverburster by the way. There's an r, not an n, my dude.
I mean, English is a pretty retarded language, since it's not phonetically consistent. Letters basically mean nothing, so there technically cannot be a wrong pronunciation. I like the language for it's easy grammar, but just thinking about Worcestershire Sauce grinds my gears.
Do top 10 meta decks of all time, with criteria being how strong they were for their time. So any deck that was tier 0 or close to it or just a deck that saw lots of play
look for japanese names. black luster soldier was a chaos card.
Yeah he called Chaos Soldier. I don't know why they change it in TCG
@@alitugen2616 The sin thing was because of its religious connotations, same reason they used censor any Christian imagery on cards, and even refused to print the original Monster Reborn with its Ankh.
@@0scarWalsh Okay I gave a bad example but still, the name changes are really bad.
If the ancient effect of Chaos Emperor Dragon seems very strong to you, you should see the effect of the Chaos and Ruler in the anime ... that effect is at another level.
konami needs to just make an official.ruling that replaces any instance of "when a card is sent" to "if a card is sent" and fix the whole problem of cards missing timing for no reason
They did it as a way to slow down the power crept, like the differences between dark world and fabled is timing. Dark world use if discard by effect, fabled use when discarded by cost or effect. But as you can see, danger broke the discard mechanic.
@@greyroot00 That's not so much the wording issue. It's more of Darkworlds having to be discarded during an effect. Whereas the discard cost you pay to activate an effect didn't count.
"When" is specifically printed for balancing. When Lightpulsar was first announced, it's effect said "if" rather than "when". Shortly after the announcement, a few players discovered a busted (at the time) FTK combo involving it, Darkness Metal, and Cannon Soldier. Konami realized it and preemptively erratad the card so the combo was impossible.
@@Shay96 in this game, wording matters a lot. As you said dark world will not activate if discarded as cost, but fabled does. But fabled will only work if the fabled being discarded (as effect) is the last thing that happened at resolution chain (not sure about simultaneous effect such "and if you do" tho). This makes fabled is not outright power crept dark world.
@@greyroot00 The only Fabled monster that can miss timing is Peggulsus. Only optional effects can miss timing, and the rest of the Fabled cards that trigger on discard are mandatory.
Note that also factoring into the power of some of these cards was something that doesn't exist anymore: Ignition Priority.
Today, when you successfully summon a monster, there is a window where trigger and fast effects canhappen. "Summon successful" is a closed gamestate. In the past, an ignition effect can be used in this window, such as that of the freshly summoned Brionac or Chaos Sorcerer.
I created a whole new set of cards to expand the archetype to deal more with banishing with the LIGHT/DARK theme being secondary, so I'm pleased to see a video from you covering this. Maybe in the future we can have a contest to see who in the community can make the best new "Chaos" cards?
Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning will forever be my favorite Chaos monster and I always have at least one copy in my deck. It’s also the first Yugioh card I ever received
Top ten best 0/0 ATK/DEF monsters. That sounds interesting.
To be honest, I'm primarily suggesting this because Chaos Necromancer is a card that can get a really high stat really easily. Admittedly, it's a dead draw on the first turn, but still. A few turns in, and it's overpowering stuff like Blue-Eyes off the bat.
id love if they made it official and made some support cards for them, itd be a fun deck to play with
Dark Magician of Chaos is easily #2 pre-errata right behind Chaos Emperor Dragon.
More homework was needed here.
nah, chaos soldier was more broken that dark maician of chaos, i would give it the theird spot on the list.
BLS is a lot easier to bring out than DMoC. BLS would be number 1 now though. By a fairly sizeable margin.
when i was a kid i ran chaos sorcerer and all of my friends complained that it was banned but i still played it since it was the only good card i had to shut down their bullshit boss monsters
Been the better part of 20 years and Chaos is still awesome as fuck! Every chance i get i go back to playing chaos and/or zombies when its non competitive.
envoy of the end is my favorite card ever since it came out its the best !
I like the idea that "chaos" as a card name is an archetype. I mostly play magic so "chaos" is a whole different monster but still hilarious! :D
I knew Wyverburster and Collapserpent would be on here. Two of the best generic level 4 floaters in the game. Before Master Rule 4 they helped my Junk Doppel deck go from zero to hero really quick
Video idea - Top 10 cards with burn effects useful today. Be interesting to see your interpretation.
Personally shocked that DMOC didnt make this video. In my eyes DMOC, BLS and CED were always the holy trinity of chaos. The big 3, and then konami nerfed 2 to fuck
I believe that still chaos emperor dragon is a decent last resort card
Just to mention on the Yata Lock - you need Sangan on the field when Chaos Emperor Dragon activates its effect, then you search out Yata-Garasu and attack your opponent with it. They can't draw and have no cards so you win by default
In video games, if your opponent is locked down by Yata-Garasu, they auto-surrender. Sangan and Witch of the Black Forest also got errata'd/nerfed anyway so yeah, even if you searched out Yata now, you can't pull off the lock that same turn. You'd need to kill their next draw with something like Drop-Off. Yata-Garasu is a one-card lock-down if your opponent has no field and hand and just can't do anything at all to stop it. Chaos Emperor Dragon + Witch/Sangan back in the day just made it so much easier to pull off. In an old GBA game (was only I think up to the Pharonic Guardian set), with no ban list, a lot of one-sided hand destruction and lots of field removal, that was the Yata lock for the game.
Ahh running chaos redmd decks back In the dueling network days and recking people. Eclipse wyvern i feel shoulda been honorable mention
Funnily enough, comboing this card with divine dragon lord felgrand and another dark dragon such as red eyes darkness metal dragon (or light and darkness just cuz I'm a klutz player and its a childhood card for me in my deck) and then special summoning felgrand made it extremely useful to get felgrand effect to pop off AND have lightpulsor to defend yourself or play offense if needed
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Still feels good having CED again albeit with an errata, I still play it
Me too, however i might side deck him, and only use him for getting rid of decks that stall, BLS is always a must however im starting to like Chaos Dragon Lev
My boy made #3! YEAH! I used to run chaos Sacred Phoenix back in the day, and it was great at locking people down. Until they learned they could use change of heart on my #3 and use its effect on Phoenix xp
I think you're underestimating Lightpulser Dragons graveyard effect. Sending a light and dark monster from your hand the the graveyard is a really good effect in chaos decks as it gives you more summoning matrieals while also giving you a 2500 beat stick with a good floating effect. I mean it can get you out of some bad situations.
You'd need stuff in your hand that doesn't care about being in the Graveyard for it to be beneficial. Going -2 is far from ideal unless you're gonna win the game that turn.
But with chaos decks you want resources in the graveyard so get two there while getting a monster on the field with a useful floating effect is actually really good. Sometimes going -2 which you're actually only going -1 since you are getting a monster out is more beneficial then keeping cards in your hand.
@@brycebeechman9435 Not quite the point I was trying to make. Like, if you send something from your hand to the Graveyard, it had better serve a better purpose rather than just summoning a monster. You're still going -2 when you can get resources to the Graveyard without going -anything. Armageddon Knight can send you that DARK monster you need without going minus for example as it sends it from your deck (you lose your Normal Summon sure but Special Summoning exists). Dark Grepher's similar but is a minus from your hand so you can send from your deck though it's a very good minus. The point is, you don't want to go minus unless you can get that minus back in some way.
Actually I noticed that if I pulled off CED's effect I tended to win the game even with the errata. It set up the graveyard for me to do other plays and since some chaos decks that aren't chaos dragons aren't the fastest decks in the world, they can afford to wait a turn before taking advantage of other effects. However if you have a chaos deck that wants to banish stuff, the two best monsters for that are still Chaos Sorcerer and BLS. Chaos Dragon Levianeer apparently isn't technically part of the archetype because of a lack of the kanji denoting it as such but that may have changed
Richard the Pastamancer brought up DMOC, which could have had an honourable mention due to being on the banned list for its effect. Also the new DM re-train, Magician of Chaos, can summon a BLS/Chaos ritual monster with its effect as well.
IMO, The perfect time to honourable mention BLS-Super Soldier would have been with BLS-Envoy's section, since it encompasses the effect of Armory Arm already, and has support like Super Soldier Synthesis requiring Light/Dark material. But if you specifically use Beginning/Evening Twilight Knight, designed for it's ritual summon, it would have 5+ effects upon completion.
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Actually Black Luster Soldier is a Chaos monster officially. Cuz it’s OCG name is “Chaos Knight”.
Chaos archetype is one of my favorite archetype, summoning BLS super soldier using B.knight and ET.knight was insane
Super soldier had 2 banishes and 2 attacks which can deal 6k damage on his own if it destroyed at least 1 monster
Black and Luster are literally Synonyms for Dark and Light too tho.
Do a Top 10 Ritual Monsters please.
Man I haven't played any kind of Yu-Gi-Oh in yearsss (I play MTG now) but yet I've watched a ton of these videos lol
Magician of black chaos with the dimention fusion. It was otk as well. Magician got erata, and dimention fusion still banned.
Probably something that has been brought up before, but I would love to see chaos extra deck monsters that specifically require at least 1 light and 1 dark monster. ie a fusion that requires 1 of each, synchros that require 1 light tuner and 1+ dark non tuners and vice versa, an xyz that requires a 1 each, and a link that requires 1 each. As far as I'm aware, the only "true" chaos extra deck monsters are chaos goddess and chaotic magical dragon.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong or missing any. Also, not a competitive player, but anyone know if goddess or chaotic magical dragon have seen or see play?
Edit: just from reading chaotic dragon, I wouldn't be surprised if it was at least a side deck in decks that run light or dark monsters and can make lv 8 synchros
Cool.. Hope one of those cards will come to duel links 😁..
duel link is shit
Awesome channel Duel Logs! Been subbed for a while. I wanted to suggest if you haven't done one a top ten remove from play cards in Yugioh. Also can someone explain the effect of the trap card Elemental Absorber? I'm confused about this cards effect because does the banished monster have to stay removed from play or can I return the monster and my opponent's same attribute monsters still can't attack? Like if I play the trap in my deck can I then use any of my ways to return the monster back to play and still have the effect or does the monster have the stay banished for Elemental Absorber's effect to stay active?
Would love to see where contrast hero chaos ends up on this list
#1 Chaos End Ruler- Ruler of the Beginning and the End
Wonder when will that card get printed & errated.
Probably never lol. I mean the power to mess with your opponents hand would be too good
Can I extend honorable mentions to Blue-Eyes Chaos MAX Dragon and Blue-Eyes Chaos Dragon, their effects have nothing to do with Chaos monsters but they have Chaos in their name plus they see competitive play using Impcantations as an engine.
Nah bro
I would say the Black Luster Soldier at number 10 is really situational and see less play than Chaos Max. I dont think Duel Links count
Chaos End Ruler. The new alpha. I waited long.
omg that OP
Chaos Emperor Dragon, the errata doesn't matter, you'll always remain one of my favorite monsters.
I would play it 4x if it was possible... I need a Chaos Emperor Dragon in my duelist life.
I understand that the Number C And the CXYZ monsters do require setup to get out, but in many cases, they are really good, and are worth putting the effort in to bring out.
Black Luster Soldier Sacred Soldier is actually super good in red eyes decks. It just gets summoned for free if the slash dragon it’s equipped to is destroyed.
My favorite card of all time is Black Luster Soldier Envoy of the Beginning!
I love these videos and I always learn something new. I would love to see a top 10 on cards that weren't really used in the past/ when they first came out but are really good now a days.
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18:03: Christ! Even if that isn't the original name, that's frickin' BADASS!
I wish Konami would make Chaos an official archetype and give it some new support.
Thanks for stellaris music!
"see's chaos emperor dragon as #1" I guess you never heard of the most powerful chaos monster ever made? It's called Chaos end ruler- envoy of the beginning and the end. mainly because of it's effect of you pay 1000 life points then you banish all cards on your opponents side of the field, their hand and in their graveyard, then for every card banished inflict 500 damage to their life points for every card banished, meaning if you banished 16 cards....you win the duel immediately
That'd be cool and all if it wasn't an anime exclusive.
Raelarial Skystriker from the looks of it, it's not an actual card
Can you do a top 10 most powerfull decks of all time?
Actually, Black Luster Soldier’s original name is Chaos Soldier
Haha I just brought chaos envoy of the end nice timing
Considering how much Dark Support there is, I'm wondering if they're ever going to match that with Non-Blue Eyes Light support. Maybe Salvation Knight as apposed to Armageddon Knight?
yes , allot of dark support but most of them are really trash and useless.
I think all attributes "knight" monster already exist (at least I see the light one in ocg). But most of their effects is not as Easy to trigger as Armageddon knight
@@danielak1666 that does not matter.
lightpulsar dragon will always be number one in my heart
Back when i still played i never even used CED for any massive play, i'd just turtle and whittle my opponents lifepoints down while filling up my field/hand as much as possible so that once CED's effect went through the duel was over. I mean think about it, a full hand and field on your side only already does 4500 lp worth of burn, not counting anything your opponent has or link/pendulum zones. If they also have a stacked field+hand its a insta-win as long as they dont have 9000+ lp.
I am here aside from im subbed to you. I was there when HoC gave the idea lol.
I like how you made the vid
You forgot to mention that they also nerfed the burn potential of the CED by changing his effect so that your opponents takes 300 points of damage for all cards sent to only their graveyard so CED's burn potential was cut in half. They could have made it just fine with the previous two nerfs but like with all cards which received erratas they went overboard and made the card garbage.
It's still an easy to summon 3k beater but yeah, it's not even close to playable over BLS.
@@ShiningJudgment666 Exactly, right now BLS is a 1000 time better than CED. There is absolutely no reason to play CED over BLS. BLS aside from being a 3k beater also has two great effects. CED is useless and even if BLS was banned I doubt CED would see any kind of play.
Also, if We're not just talking monsters. Chaos End, and return from Different Dimension. God that was Armageddon on the field. Also Dark Magician of Chaos. Reborn it, Brings a spell back and 2800 beat stick. Ahhh the days of chaos, I'd like to see a max power ol school chaos deck with no Ban limitations (perhaps except for Yata)go up against a current meta deck. Would be interesting.
That is a given , it wasn't called Envoy of the End for no reason.
Basically that is for your opponent
They nerfed Chaos Emperor Dragon way too hard in the new erratas.
- You can't activate any other card effects the turn you would activate it's effect. (Which I believe was the only reasonable change to be made to the card)
- Summon condition was changed from "Must first" to just "Must", meaning that you can't summon it with any revival effects e.g. Monster Reborn.
- Now does less damage, as it is now based upon just how many cards your opponent has sent to the Graveyard, not both players combined, so it's hardly worth it as a game-finisher card.
- It's Limited.
They really just wanted to sell Levianeer and the prize card, didn't they...
Well, but we need to admit that the original CED is just to powerfull for the game. So the option is to lock it forever in the banlist (cause I'm quite sure that it will be too broken in any format) or give the errata
*But I'm agree, it's being nerfed too much and at once (it might be understandable if it getting to that states after like 5 erratas because it's still too broken somehow. But kill it in one go is just too much
I'd say the new Chaos angel would easily top this list, it's easy to summon grants protection and even banishes a card
Just found out phantom of chaos is not an official chaos archetype. I alway thought it would
You only need 1 monster on your opponent's field for the BLS Armory Arm combo. BLS' double attack effect doesn't require there be a second monster to attack
There is an anime card chaos ruler of the begining and the end that card, whew no words
Love the video keep it up!!,
BLS-envoy avoided being banned for YEARS. People were SCREAMING every list it didn't get banned, because it was so dominant.
Thunder Dragonduo has the ability to special summon itself from the hand by banishing one light and one dark monster from your graveyard. Would it be considered a Chaos card?
And what about Magician of Black Chaos? Or Chaos Magician? 👀👀
When a special summon requires banishing a dark and light monster from the grave yard, i like to call it a "Chaos Summon".
Makes sense
Let’s get chaos decks to being either top tier or actually playable in today’s meta. I personally love the design of all the cards as well as have a great concept of light and dark to balance each other out
Ehh you can make this deck.....
But I feel like we evolved out