GM manual trans specs - 4spd 5spd 6spd 2wd 4wd - LS SBC BBC
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Here's a bunch of info and dimensions about GM/Chevy manual transmissions.
T5 vs T56 vs NV3500 2wd
SM465 vs NV4500 vs ZF6 4wd
Update: shifter position matches on all my full-size truck transmissions. However, most SM465s had the shifter a couple inches further forward. Mine is the GMT400 style 88-91 with the aluminum top plate.
Info on the bell housings, input shafts, output shafts, clutch and flywheel combinations, release bearings, slave cylinders
4spd vs 5spd vs 6spd
How to make an old v6 or SBC or BBC transmission fit an LS engine LR4 LM7 LQ4 LQ9
My 4.8 Beretta swap is getting an LS T56 and my 5.3 Blazer swap is getting an SBC SM465
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Very very good video..and very helpful for me..made me realize how many different ones there are to choose from.. I've been using the nv3500 behide 350's in 40 & 50's rat rod cars and everything has been super easy to make it work perfectly.. the shifter location lands in a good spot..and I use S10/Silverado fluid reservoirs ..and truck pilot bearing
Yeah the nv3500s get a bad rap, but they work pretty good really. I have two in my Blazers and have no complaints
can't find the 3500 length online and remembered you did a comparison, thank you for this info
I figured when I had everything together it would be a good reference 🤣
Really appreciate the video I was debating on a nv3500 I didn't realize the shifter was that close to the bell housing
Great video. Thanks for all the information.
Very useful info. Im planning doing a turbo 5.3 pony truck and want it to be manual. Im sure i will need to watch this again as i move forward
Exactly info I needed
Thanks
Amazing video
Hey GH Dezign, This is really great info! Thank you for going to the effort and sharing your knowledge here. Just a couple of things; There is no way the SM465 (CH-465) has the same shifter to bell-housing (face / back of engine) measurement as a NV4500 or ZF6 S6-650. I have a ZF6 S6-650 sitting in my garage waiting to go into my 89 1ton square-body dually. It is 15.75” as you say. I do not have a SM465 here to measure up; it must be a lot less through looking at the factory cutout impression in the truck’s transmission tunnel. I don’t have a NV4500 here either. If it is the same measurement as the ZF6 S6-650, that’s good to know and a help for this swap. 2nd thing and you may be just the man to ask this. I am mounting the ZF6 S6-650 to the original TBI 454 L19 (IV Mark 4, 2 PC seal). What flywheel pilot gearing and clutch Assy do I need? What I do know; the trans input shaft is 10 spline Ø1.375”and I will have to use a concentric slave cylinder. That’s about it. Thanks for your help! Cheers, Grant.
I finally had a chance to measure my sm465, and we're both right actually. Good catch! Mine is 15.75, but it's different than most of the ones I see online. Mine came from an early GMT400, and the shifter tower is offset to the rear. Photos I see online (presumably from square body trucks) the shift tower looks basically centered.
So I'll put a note in the description specifying this.
My favorite one is the SM465
Bulletproof
The k1500 4x4 trucks had nv3500's in them with an external slave. Some call them a getrag, but in all truth and actuality, they're still a nv3500. 99 and 2000 1st gen nbs trucks used an nv3500 with the 4.8-5.3 trucks as well. Very rare to find though.
Yeah they were 5LM60 getrags. They just got a name change when NV popped up. The old getrag 282 fwd 5spds got called NVs later in life
Thank you for this!
Thank you for the video
Thanks for the info I have a c20 with a 4 speed and I want a 5 speed in there and this helps out a lot !!
I’m assuming I have an sm465 but I’ll have to double check. Been doing my research and this helps a lot.
I did find out the earlier 4spds have the shifter a couple inches further forward than my measurements. My sm465 is from a gmt400 and the squares were different
Did you ever get this swap figured out? I’ve got a 69 C20 that I’m putting a 454 in and I want to go to an NV4500 to replace the SM465.
I have an nv3500 from a 94 k2500...its a 4wd with 32 spline with a np241c transfer case
I've never heard of nv3500 in a 3/4 ton. I have seen half ton trucks with nv4500 though
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It took me too long to realize you were talking about the gen 2 LT1 and not Gen 5 engines.
Gen5 LT1 would come with tr6060, not t56
I have an 02 3/4 ton truck with the floor shift tcase and the 4l80e. The 4l80e is great but my first truck was a manual with the sm420 which I eventually swapped to a world class t5. I miss a stick shift but the one really good option seems to be the zf6 and they're damn near impossible to find
ZF won't fit your tcase, but the nv4500 will bolt right in. That's the route I'd go in your shoes, and that's what the factory 6.0 manuals were.
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How could you forget about the NV 4500. How!!
I didn't. Look in the 4wd chart, the nv4500 measurements are there. I just didn't have one laying around to show
I’m working on a 1995 HD 3500 tow-truck.. it had a 6.5 diesel but previous owner pulled it out an out a 350 sbc gas n I bought it dead not running.. offer-up ad said transmission problems.. but idk u think it should be working properly with same set up clutch ,pp,tob,flywheel ,pb,. Well I finally got it started n pto of course operates in neutral..equipment seems to work great but my question is .. when I put it in 1st 2nd or 3rd it goes in gear but when I pull the clutch out it don’t move at all . So I dropped it n it’s all in new condition tranny nv4500 looking in tip-top-shape.. all gears go in n out smooth n don’t look damaged at all .. starter need it to be shimmed out so it starts good now no grinds.. but still no movement.. idk I’m gonna put back up with new sleeve cylinder n see if it’ll do .. but can u give me a better option or
Opinion.. thxz 👌👌👍👍👍
When you shift gears with the trans out, did the input and output spin as they should? That would eliminate the clutch and transfer case from the diagnosis process
@@GEARHEADdezign yes .. input shaft spins freely.. of course 1st gear ⚙️ its hard n reverse.. shaft spins hard cus their low gears.. but trying this makes me wanna think its the sleeve cylinder.. I guess previous owner didn’t even bleed it out .. its was all weak.. but I got a new 1 including the line. Hopefully that’ll solve my problem 🤞🤞🤞
I have a 1955 chevy truck with a 265 v8. Would a nv3500 fit that application? Thx for all the great info...
Yup, it should work fine.
HELLO MY FRIEND I HAVE A 55.5 CHEVY 3800 DUALLY W/ THE 235 INLINE 6 IS THERE A 5 OR EVEN A 6 SPEED MANUAL THAT WILL BOLT ON OR B REAL KLOSE 2 BOLT ON THANK U
I have a 1995 Silverado with 350 engine what manual transmission would work with that motor
Hey I just stumbled across this video and it was super helpful. I do have a few questions though. I currently have a 1996 6.5l td bolted to a sm465 to a np205. The starter is interfering with the flywheel. What flywheel should I be using with this setup? Also I am interested in swapping in a nv4500 at some point and I wanted to know how much work that would be to convert? Do I need any adapter plates? Thanks!
I would assume you want to use the flywheel that's original to the engine. Those 6.5s got the nv4500 from the factory, and it should be able to use the same clutch as sm465.
Depending on the year of your sm465, it might be basically a direct swap. Mine came out of an early gmt400 and the measurements appear to be a direct swap with a 90s nv4500. Earlier square body 465s had the shifter further forward, and I'm not sure about the tcase adapter measurements
You can tell if it's a square or gmt400 trans by the shift cover. Squares had a cast iron cover with the shifter mostly centered. Gmt400s have an alum cover with the shifter offset to the rear
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I have a 2004 4.8 4wd silverado with the nv3500. my goal is to build something of a sport truck. My main issue is the NV3500 just feels choppy. I'm not sure if maybe the shift tower is bad or what but it has little play in the shifter and the truck only has 62,000 on it. really I'm just looking for a smooth shifting manual 4x4 so if you think a nv3500 is a smooth transmission I will look more into the issues unless you suggest something else. I've also heard the t56 can be adapted to be 4x4 but it was stated it doesn't hold up well with the weight of the truck. Any advice is appreciated and awesome video!
I have a 94 s10 2wd and the transmission is the nv3500 and it’s bad went and bought one off marketplace and found out it’s the wrong one my shifter is up further the one I bought is 2 far back as well as some other small issues that won’t work on my truck
Is all great data! But I still cant figure what combination of parts will need to make my 01 express van 5.7 l to a manual 4x4 front SAS....😢 I know you're the right man to ask
Just grab a manual from 88-98 or 99-06 Chevy and the transfer case will depend on which side drop you need to match the front axle
@@GEARHEADdezign I'm thinking f250 05+ as to make it reliable. What are your thoughts on that?
@@alb2571 yeah those are good. So you'd want a typical driver drop from the same year trucks
You are missing the ZF 6 spd trans from the C4 Corvette
That's true. But I don't have one. And they're so rare they're not much of a swap option either🤣
@@GEARHEADdezign I just recently did a clutch, p.p. & flywheel on a super clean 1984 L83 Corvette. I was surprised when I discovered that it came with a ZF 6 speed. 🤯 It is a pull style p.p. like the 1st gen t56
Gotcha. That's the style I'm running in my 80Z
Awesome video. I’m in the middle of doing a 5.3 LS in my 91 S10. I want to keep it manual. Don’t want to break the bank so thought about using the nv3500. If you have any suggestions that would be great. Thanks in advance…
Yup. The nv3500 will bolt right up to the LS and go. They typically will withstand some abuse, they're just not "bulletproof"
Thanks for the quick reply. Is there anything special I need? Or somewhere I can get a list of parts I’ll need to complete the swap?
@@richiegibby78 in the early s10 you'll want the Silverado nv3500, not the later s10 version. Then buy the flywheel and clutch that match the trans.
I appreciate your videos! Tons of information and knowledge!
I was wondering if you could help me out with a build? I have a 2014 Jeep JK (AEV BRUTE) Gladiator with a 6.4 / 392 ci currently running an Nag1 A580 transmission (which I've had computer issues from the conversion)
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I'm looking to convert to a 6 speed transmission with AWD and delete the current transfer case. My future plans are to are around 1000 HP let me know what you think!
Yeah, I'd like to help, but Mopar and AWD are both out of my expertise. Sounds like a fun project though
@@GEARHEADdezign I'm totally okay with any other all-wheel drive setup you might suggest! As long as it can handle the horsepower 👀
@@rpmofga I would call Tick Performance in Carolina and see if they can set you up with an AWD T56 Magnum
I built a mild 350 for my 1993 c1500 2wd and am gonna manual swap it. The 4l60e is old, tired, and doesn’t like the extra 100+ft/lbs of tq the new engine has over the old one. I had a custom 650cfm TBI built for it that’s ready for boost, and will be swapping over my OBD1 computer to the flash tuning system from dynamic EFI. Right now it’s about 320hp and 400+tq, with boost it should be around 475hp and 490tq. (Estimates from my tuner) I originally wanted to nv4500 swap it but I cannot find one for a good price, even the ones in need of a rebuild are well over $1,000. I can easily find sm465’s in good condition for under $1,000 though. How is the performance of an sm465 vs the nv4500? Not worried about highway manners too much. It’s gonna be driven on backroads and around town mostly, with a quick highway jaunt occasionally.
For a 2wd 1500 you might want to think about nv3500. They shift smoother than nv4500, which shifts smoother than sm465. The nv3500 gets a bad reputation, but I've had good luck with them.
BTW, I haven't heard of DynamicEFI in years! I did OBD1 tuning on my 91 Beretta and 94 Z71, so I spent some time on thirdgen.org figuring things out
@@GEARHEADdezign I thought about it but I am worried about my driving style coupled with nearly 500ft/lbs of tq. My truck is 2wd but it’s on spindles and 33” tires, it’s the one in my PFP. Gonna go back to stock height eventually, or just go to 31” tires and leave it on the spindles.
@@GEARHEADdezign I will be using their EBL Flash 2. No transmission control and it’s gonna be way cheaper to manual swap it than get a stand-alone TCM and build the 4l60e or swap in a 4l80e, or build a 700r4 capable of holding the power. I miss having a manual. I got a bored and built Rochester 220 tbi good for 650cfm with bigger injectors, and a high pressure fuel pump from a vortec truck.
@@iDrive4fun93 yeah everything is better with a manual. And if you're worried about power you could always go cd009 with an adapter or even ar5 maybe
Are what I need to do that . Thank for any information
Awesome video, lot of useful information.
I am curious if this also applies to gen 4 ls stuff? I have a 2014 2500hd with the 6.0 (l96), I would love to put a zf6 in there when the 6l90 goes. It’s a bummer I can’t use the tcase that’s in there. But a earlier ls flywheel and pilot bearing would work?
As far as I know, yes. The gen 4 car engines still used manual transmissions, and a tr6060 will fit a gen 3.
@@GEARHEADdezign is it possible to swap input shafts on another other Chevy tcase to mate the zf6?
@@tinkeringtimmermans5249 I'm not sure
i got an all orginal 94 Silverado with a NV3500.. I Think im gonna run one behind my 383 stroker in my C10.. I will need the strength, what would you prefer trans wise based from your video?
@@DAUltimateSACRIFICE sounds like a hot rod truck application, so the nv3500 would be ok not using it for towing etc. Aside from a car transmission is gonna shift the smoothest. An AR5 with LS adapter could also be decent on your SBC.
Think I'm gonna do a 97 1500 v6 to sb400. Definitely wanna 5 0r 6 speed.
Great video with lots of good information. One question, I’m looking to swap my auto 2004 3500 duramax to a zf6 I have one local with lower miles but problem is it’s a 2wd trans and I’m 4wd. How In depth would this be to change the parts out??
I haven't looked into that. But I do know that the tail shafts are prone to breaking, so just a 4wd tail shaft will be close to the price of a whole 4wd trans...
What about the nv4500. I got one behind a 454. I love it.
I swapped one in my old SBC z71 and it was pretty sweet. I got videos of it 😂
I think you just saved my a ton of money. I’ve been doing a ton research hoping to find away install an LS in my 88 Camaro mounted to my GM T5 WC transmission. Will the old big block bell house work or will my transmission be clocked at an angle?
The BBC bell should work, but won't be mounted at an angle. And iirc you want it to be at an angle for your Camaro
@@GEARHEADdezign Ha, you are right, I do!
any reason why someone would put a T5 behind a LS? Headers and 10.5" tires will have youll be replacing it in no time
My bro in law was going to because he's cheap🤣
A lot of great info here, thanks! I am about to swap an LS style T-56 behind a one piece RMS Chevy 350 and have heard mixed reviews on what pilot bushing to use. I purchased spacers that go between the bell housing and front plate of the transmission to fix the long input stick out, just wondering if you have any experience with this. Also, do you know for sure if an LS T-56 clutch will bolt to the old school SBC flywheel? Thanks!
A friend of mine has done that exact swap, you use the SBC pilot. The LS clutch will bolt on a big SBC/BBC 168 tooth flywheel, but not the 153 tooth. Just use the SBC clutch that matches your flywheel though. No need to change style
Some 10 years ago I lucked out and found a low miles '95 Formula TA with the LT1 and T56 in a local pull it yard. I picked up the trans, flywheel, and clutch dirt cheap, but it's still in the parts bin waiting for the answer...I refuse to use the pull clutch and want to use an internal hydraulic throwout. Are aftermarket parts the solution?
Edit: This would used with either a 2 piece or 1 piece rear seal, I've got both. The LT1 flywheel I believe is the same balance as a Vortec 5.7 1996-2002.
Everything will bolt up factory with a 1pc rear main flywheel and the pull clutch. To convert to push clutch you'll need ls1 input shaft, front plate and old BBC bell housing and 4 bolt adapter
FWIW, I'm using the pull clutch on my Camaro and it works fine. I have zero issues with it.
Try looking at Novak Conversions. They pull off all kinds of crazy stuff.
I’m getting a 98 k1500 5.7 I’m wondering what would the BEST 4wd manual would be for durability and reliability.
I would go nv4500. That's the 1ton 5spd of that generation. I swapped one into my 94 and loved it
The trans with the purple bell housing, is that an nv3500??
T5
My nv3500 came with a Slave cylinder that’s located outside of the trans can I still use it to hook up to the ls no problem or do I got to put a
Hydraulic throw up bearing ? Need help pls !!!!
It should still work. I'm going to be doing external slave sm465 with LS. Just make sure you use the big clutch for the 168 tooth LS flywheel
@@GEARHEADdezign do you think it would engage and disengage just fine . Because a lot of people are putting shims on the internal ones . Do you think the external? Throw out bearings needs anything like that
@@Anhedoniapurple I wouldn't think so, but sometimes you just gotta try it and see what's up
I really want to manual swap my sbc (about 350hp) s10. kinda lost in the info. trying to keep a budget. I was thinking of converting a mustang T5 but should I just get a gm t5? what about a s10 NV3500. I dunno. T56 prices are stupid
For that power level nv3500 should be fine and the swap will be cake
2003 4.8 nv3500 trans with manual tcase to a 2005 5.3 and a push button tcase. (Was a 4l60e) looking at swapping my L60 out for the 5spd and still use my tcase that has a push button. I’m wanting to know if the splines are the same between the two. Both trucks are 1/2 tons. Haven’t yet pulled them apart to look and was trying to take some steps saving wait time on parts if they can or can’t bolt up. Thanks
Nope. All manuals, even the half ton stuff, is the bigger 32 spline. I know the tcase inputs can be changed though
Can I put nv3500 on a 454 motor???
What would you use if you wanted to but a gearbox in a chevy exspress with a 6.0..would love to have a manual van.
Depends on what you plan to do with it
where are you seeing $300 nv3500S? only ones i can find are double that at least
I'm in NY, where trucks rust out long before the drivetrains go bad
Cool info…
I have a question…
I have 1965 Chevy pick up truck with 327 motor.
Original came with manual transmission
Years ago I made it automatic now I want to go back to manual and I was thinking if it’s possible to put one of those six speed Camaro transmissions.
Tanks…
Yup. There's a couple ways to do it.
1 - LS1 style with adapter plate for SBC bell housing.
2 - LT1 style with lt1 bell, clutch and conversion flywheel for 2pc rear main seal
#2 is the setup in my Camaro
Hey man I have a 2007 silverado single cab shortbed and it has a 4.3v6 with 5 speed transmission but i am not sure what transmission I have and if I could use it for a 5.3 engine I am thinking to put...I appreciate it if you can help me out thanks
Yup, you have the nv3500 and it will bolt up to the 5.3 piece of cake with 4.8 clutch and flywheel
yeah i have an early nv4500 that im going to swap my nv3500 LS swap for but i cannot find an external slave cylinder bellhousing for the life of me. my truck is already setup for the external slave since it already has an early nv3500 in it so i really just want to keep the stock clutch stuff. But any ideas where i can buy a bellhousing like that or something similar?
@@seanclement2264 I'm not sure where you could find a new one, but the sm465 bell that I have looks just like the nv4500
Nice video! I'm looking to manual swap my K10 with a NV3500, would I be able to use a 350 SBC flywheel and clutch for it?
As long as it's 10 spline you should be golden
I have a 1985 t5 out of a comaro . can I run a older bell housing and fly wheel/ clutch with it .and it's a 1976 350 engine thanks
@@danieldouglas8034 yup
Hello I got a 98 k2500 5.7 auto …what manual transmission I can use from what year or whatever I need help am stuck….
Get the nv4500 from a 94-06 Silverado
What’s in my 2002 gmc 5 spd 4x4. 4.3v6
Nv3500
Will they work on a 454 . Idk if that’s a silly question but I need it answer
@@Anhedoniapurple yes
wow ..excellent video with almost all info i was looking for, except ring size ? how many teeth to use with LS starter? can i use flywheel off '81 250ci inline 6, w/ HD pressure plate , that truck pilot bearing do you know part #? will the input shaft on Borg-Warner 5sp.be long enough or does somebody make longer input shaft that will fit B/W 5sp. do you know? also is it still possible to drill and tap flywheels for any pressure plate application ...👍🛻
The LS flywheels are 168 tooth. I know a T5 input shaft works. I wouldn't drill and tap a flywheel when there's easy, cheap off the shelf parts available. Especially with the RPM and inertia involved. I do some sketchy stuff, but not that🤣
@@GEARHEADdezign I'm no engineer, but it's standard practice to drill a 200mm VW 12v flywheel to eight dowels from four. with hand drill. ya i know its only a VW, but BB engine is still swinging alotta weight , i never lost a pin or whallered any pin holes. I musta misheard you speak of T5 input shaft not being long enough, with 27 spine input shaft. I just got '05 5.3 doing as much homework as i can, p/u tranny is i think tremec, what they called 3sp w/ OD , do you know what needs to be done, if anything to LS cpu without running automatic that was behind it? possible or do i run MSD box w/ carb? thanx again for advice, figure i got bout yr. maybe less the six aint got much more time left ...'81 SBC
@@GEARHEADdezign it might be french one peugout? runs ATF not gear oil
T5 should be 26 spline input. I think the pickup trans were NV or ZF, with tremec just making the car stuff.
I've got a video showing a free tuning solution for LS swaps. LS-Droid. You can disable vats and change tune from auto to manual.
Please help. What manual transmission/transfer case combo for 750+ hp big block Chevy. Going in an 81-87 square body.
That's a tall ask, but the new tremec T4050 might be up to it. And the zf6 is pretty damn good, but they're hard to find
Hi this video was awesome....I'm in middle of a project would you please help me out on the parts pls since I live in the middle East...I'm doing a LS swap on toyota pickup hilux 1991 and looking for a manual transmission with 4wd...appreciate the feedback 🙏
Nv3500 or nv4500 would prob be a good choice
@@GEARHEADdezign thank you guru
And I'm still confused 😢. What configuration would I use to build a all wheel drive, manual transmission, 5 or 6 speed doesn't really matter. 1967 Chevy Nova SS?
Cheap option would be nv3500, but you could also do a Corvette t56 converted
I want to do a 5.3 w nv3500 out of a v6 sierra 2wd on a obs gmc… i need help with harness options all stand alones ive seen are only for t56 ??
Reverse lights are same connector, I don't recall if vss is the same but you can always splice it if need be
hello y have a suburban 1500 99 y want to make it manual tramicion she has a 5.7 motor wich one you recomend me to buy for my proyect
Depends on what you want to do with it. Towing or off-road I'd do nv4500. Street driving you could do nv3500
So I want to swap my t5 transmission to the lt1 t56 I know you saying they both use hydraulic put what did you mean by the pull style clutch and would I have to change my clutch and flywheel. Also Would I also have to change my master and slave clutch cylinder or would they be compatible
Your master is probably fine and maybe the slave...but def have to change clutch. Maybe flywheel too. Look up on Rockauto if flywheel is the same for TPI and lt1
I just checked, flywheel is different
I have a 400 small block and i want the 6 speed because i have the muncie 4speed transmission in mine which one would i use
You could get the ls1 style with a 4 bolt adapter for the Muncie clutch and linkage you already have...or you can go the lt1 style with the lt1 style clutch and hydraulics
Hey I have a 91 gmc sonoma 4x4 automatic. Which transmission you think would be best as far as a manual transmission? 🤔
Nv3500 would be a direct swap, as long as you get the s10 version
I have an 03 mustang t5 that i wanna mate to an ls would this be the same concept as the video or will i run into input shaft issues
It should bolt up no problem. Send it!
Do you know if there was a zf6 available in a 2wd version?
Yes
I has a s-10 with 4.3v6 4wd Auto... I want to convert it to a 2wd with manual 5speed. Can you show me a list of parts that I will need to source? I'm about 90% sure it's a zr2, if that makes any diff. Mostly doing this conversion for gas millage. It's just going to be a beater truck.
An S10 nv3500 should be a direct swap. Get the trans, pedals, master, slave, etc
Which would perform better and be more reliable for a 5.3 4wd 03-06 silverado? Nv3500 or nv4500?
If you're doing any towing I'd go for the heavier duty nv4500. The nv3500 shifts smoother if you're just bombing around in it.
So what about a nv3500 behind a duramax?? Or t56 for that matter?? Input shaft bearing same size as the zf6??
That I'm not sure. The bell housing pattern is the same. I'm guessing you mean the pilot bearing, not the input shaft bearing. Could prob check Rockauto and see if it's the same
Neither would be a great match for lots of diesel torque though
Do u have any lt1 t56 steel bellhousing for sale
No but I can find you the QuickTime part number if that helps
Found a link amzn.to/4aXDvE1
will a 4.8 or 5.3 swap into a nv3500 4wd 1995 S10 without too much trouble?
Yup. I'm going to be doing the same with my 2000 blazer. There's a swap group on Facebook and wiring harness available from Current Performance
I have a 1998 C1500 4.3L with a NV3500. I need to replace the clutch (all components). It appears the transmission can be separated from the bell housing, am I correct? Or, should I drop the transmission and bell housing as one unit? Any info on how tall the bell housing is? Kinda worried about being able to get the truck up in the air enough to have enough clearance to get it from under the truck? Thanks for any info.
I don't think that year nv3500 had a bell housing, it's all one piece, so you don't have an option.
Height is just standard SBC bell height
I had a mechanic install a 5 speed and he claims it is a NV3500. I found the receipt from the junkyard and it has the following info "1990 Chevrolet 1500 Pickup
88-91 MT; 5 Speed, 4X2; Q:45563; W:6603"
Everything I have read is it's a 5LM60. What dust cover/inspection cover do I need?
Yup, that's the getrag predecessor to the nv3500. Inspection cover, I'm not sure
I love to have a ranger torqe splitter for my sm465
Tx2 advanced adapters went out business
I'd like to find a way to make a doubler setup for cheap
Hey I’m trying to figure out which trans I could swap my 05 Denali to to make it 6 speed manual but keep it awd
@@tatted_dad7827 I don't know if an input shaft exists for your tcase that would fit a ZF6. But you could either go nv 5spd or Corvette T56 6spd with the adapter.
@@tatted_dad7827 kinda depends on what you're going to do with it. Towing go nv4500, fun street cruiser go nv3500, all out performance go T56
Can you put a sm465 behind an ls?
Yes, I'm doing that with my Blazer. Use the 4.8/6.0 clutch & flywheel
@@GEARHEADdezign do you need a aftermarket bell housing kit, I am not worried about the top bolt hole. So can I use the original sbc bell housing and clutch release with the 02 6l clutch
If the SBC bell is for 12" clutch with 168 with flywheel then yes
@@GEARHEADdezign Thanks for the info 👍
I'm swapping a 1996 5.7l vortec into my 1976 c10 with a Saginaw 3spd, but I was wondering if I could swap the 3spd out for something like the nv3500. Would it drop right in using the same bellhousing, drive shaft and mounts as the Saginaw?
You can hook an nv3500 up to SBC but can't use the old bell etc.
I'm still confused on what I have it a 2004 single cab work truck with a 5 speed 4x4 with the floor transfer case and it has 4 high 2 high and a really low 4 low.
If you have a 4.8 it's nv3500, if 6.0 it's nv4500, if 8.1 it's zf6
a T5 fits a small block chevy and an LT1 T56 fits a small block chevy. If a t5 fits an LS, how come people say that an LT1 t56 does not fit an LS?
Cause the lt1 t56 requires its own unique bell housing, and that bell housing does not fit the 168 tooth flywheel of the LS. The LT1 is 153 tooth flywheel. I took my lt1 t56 and tried to figure out a budget friendly way to do it...you just can't. That's why I swapped input shaft, front plates and bells.
So are the S10 nv3500 any weaker? Input shaft the same? Other than shifter placement are they otherwise the same?
I'm pretty sure the input shaft is the same, but the output shaft is smaller. It's a 27 like T56 and not 32 like half ton. But same as half ton autos
So what other transmissions could I use behind a duramax? Zf6 parts are hard to come by. Would rather have a more common trans to put behind one.
You could prob use an nv4500. They put em behind Cummins
What is your opinion on the NV4500?
I put one in my last truck and I was happy with it. Shifts like a truck, but it's sturdy and has a nice crawler gear.
It’s posible to swap manual transmission to automatic on a Chevy 94?
Only automatic to manual
Need some help got a 1979 malibu g body factory 4 speed Saginaw 350 sbc and got an ls1 gto t56 I wanna swap in.
Sell the LS1 style and buy the lt1 style for cheaper
I've actually had my eye out for a GTO trans...are you near NY?
i am about to put a t5 behind my 4.3 ,, i have the 153 tooth flywheel .. will that work ?
You should be able to use a SBC clutch that works on the 153 tooth flywheel. The 4.3 is essentially the same
Hey man great video but I don’t e a question for you, that nv3500 looks to be a great option for my nova but what would be the best option for a hydraulic throw out bearing if I could find that transmission
Watch out for bell housing to shifter distance on the nv3500. If you can find the s10 version instead of the Silverado one it will move the shifter back a bit.
They come factory with the hydraulic release bearing stock, so just use that. Same style as LS t56 trans.
That makes sense… what about the the speed sensor? How to make that retrofit?
@@justinstewart1499 you'd have to do an elec speedo. Like in my Beretta I'm using the factory elec speedo and just changing the tune to calibrate it
I hv a question iam about 2 do a engine & tranny swap into a 96 s-10 iam putting a 2000 ls1 and t56 tranny in my questin is will my tans shifter come out in the same hole as my 2.2 four banger and the i belive is the nv 1500 tranny my name is steve.
The nv1500 shifter comes out the same place as the s10 nv3500. I have measurements in the video, but I'm quite sure the t56 is still rearward of the s10 hole. I have the opposite issue with the sm465 going in mine, where the shifter will be forward of the hole
So could you use a WC t5 out of a mustang behind a sbc but using a truck clutch setup!? Being they’re both a 10 spline. Or is the truck clutch and flywheel to big!? I only ask because I’m looking for a WC t5 but all that I find are a ford 10 spline. I’ve had a hard time finding anything GM.
I'm not sure if the 10 spline is the same...
Any help doing a v8 5.7 swap on my 99 chevy s10, I want to keep it a manual transmission. I have the nv1500 in the s10 now. Can I keep that transmission or what transmission do I need to get?
If you get an s10 nv3500 (different shifter location and transfer case pattern) it should swap directly
Has anyone figured out a way to swap an LT-1 6 speed behind and LS engine yet?
I have a couple videos about that. One where I try to make it work with truck pilot bearing...and another one where I convert it to LS style 🤣
@@GEARHEADdezign yeah I hear it’s not possible to us an LT1 6 speed with an LS but figured I’d ask.
I’ll go find that video. I haven’t tried to swap the input shafts but I guess it can’t be that difficult.
I have a couple LT 6 speeds and would love to use them instead of selling them to buy Ls 6 speeds when I know my transmissions are good. Thanks for the reply!
@@gtmotorsports937 yeah. The parts to convert are a few hundo but it's pretty easy to do.
Hey bud i have a jeep wrangler with a 350 small block swap and broke my transmission trying to find out what transmission is on it already pulled it out but having trouble finding what it is
If it looks like one of these that's an easy way to id it
@@GEARHEADdezignit looks like the sm465 but it’s a 5 speed and 4x4
Could be nv4500
Best 6 speed manual to pair with an LS 5.3??
Depends on what you want to do with it. For a big power hot rod, I'd go T56 Magnum. For a car that's less crazy you could go regular t56. Truck I'd go zf6 or even nv4500 5spd
I have a 93 Sierra with a 4.3 5 speed. I’m wanting to do a 350 sbc with a mild cam, headers and other small upgrades. How can I reinforce the 5 speed so that’ll handle some burnouts and what not
It's the same 5spd used with half ton SBCs anyway, so it should hold up for a while anyway. I don't think there's much of any aftermarket upgrades available other than a Core shifter
It is possible to put a LT1 T56 behind ls engine with the stock bellhousing? If it is, what kind of flywheel and press do I need to do so? Thanks
I tried that and it didn't work. Depth was about right with truck pilot bearing, but the lt1 bell wasn't big enough for LS flywheel. LS is 168 tooth and lt1 was 153. Maybe with an aftermarket QuickTime bell? I dunno
@@GEARHEADdezign or maybe with 153 tooth aftermarket LS flywheel?
If it exists. You'll have to figure out moving the starter too
I have a T5 tranny out of an 88 camaro. I"m going to to bolt it up to a 02 5.3. Do i really have to get a big block chevy bell housing, cause i've heard the stock bell housing from the t5 should work, but that only 1 bolt hole won't get used. If i do need a different bell housing, i have a bell housing off a 65 C20 327 with a 4 speed. Do you think that might work? I honestly want to mate them together as cheap as possible. Would you be able to guide me as to what i'll need as far as the flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, slave cylinder, and bearings?? Thank you in advance. Btw the 5.3 and t5 are planning to go into that 65 chevy of mine lol
The bell housing pattern is fine, but it's the flywheel that's the issue. I think the t5 bell is set up for smaller 153 tooth flywheel, where LS needs the bigger 168 tooth style. BBC always came with the 168, but some SBC trucks etc did get the 168 also. So try out the c20 one.
Use a 2002 4.8 flywheel and a 2002 Camaro clutch. If the c20 bell doesn't fit, grab a BBC bell.
I'm planning to get v6 standard silverado, single cab and put that 5.3 in it. I've heard thevtrans will hold. Should I put a dual disc in it. Got any info I may need ?
Yeah the NV will bolt right up with 4.8 clutch and flywheel. If you want to make huge power that requires a dual disc, I'd find a different transmission. But a typical 5.3 will be fine if you don't hammer on it too bad.
@GEARHEADdezign right on thanks bud. I mentioned the dual disc since I driver a nv5600 cummins. But it's diesel so the torque is different for sure
Hey man I have a nv3500 in my Chevy right now do u think I can bolt on a big block like a 454
Yup. Should bolt up like stock.
I'm dreaming of swapping my Chevy Express to a manual , I have always been a manual fan but they don't make expresses manual and I want to , thank you for sharing all this knowledge it really helps a guy out and looking like NV 3500 Transmission would work best because of stick placement just my thought would love to know to know your thoughts on it ???
Need to know more about what you're going to do with it. 2wd or 4wd? So the express have the engine half under the cab like the old G vans? If so a full size truck trans or maybe even a square body Chevy trans would be best
@@GEARHEADdezign I'm definitely staying 2wd mostly street driving for me , and that's what I was thinking and after watching your video it confirmed my thoughts, thanks for the reply and again thanks for sharing 👍🏼
@@BruceVanlifeJunior a 2wd nv3500 should fit the bill. I actually have one I'd sell if you're local-ish. I'm in NY
@@GEARHEADdezign I appreciate the offer brother thank you but no not local at all to NY I'm actually a Newfoundlander living in a van in Calgary Alberta Canada and wanting to do this swap on my home 😅 junk yard it is and rebuild before installing 🤞🏼
86 305 going into my 68c10 should i use the nv3500
Should work fine