Hey Greg this is related to the livestream of the editing of this video and I heard you said you were considering moving to the Maritimes. I'm not saying do or don't but if you do move to the Maritimes (I live in NB) be ready to pay much much more for alcohol, a 750 ml bottle of Wild Turkey for example is like a little over 40 dollars here. Also there's no variety. Most liquor stores in Canada are government regulated or something so every liquor store in a province is basically the same and drawing from the same pool of products and they are definitely not the best, for example I can't find old grand dad Bourbon, four roses, Maraschino Liqueur, I think we have a single bottle of mezcal, the only vermouth we have is Martini basically, etc. Also unless you go through like a bunch of stuff you will not be able to have alcohol delivered or shipped from other countries or even other provinces unless you get a friend to send something (from within Canada) and just as an extra fuck you liquor stores will not do special orders or even have product moved from another store in the province to yours. Just wanted to say that since you are into alcohol haha
Okay, question. Without consulting a book or the internet, from your memory, what do you know of as a "Gin Blossom?" Follow-up: Same question, but for "Orange Blossom?" I feel like I crossed over from a parallel universe, because when I looked up the "Gin Blossom" to double check the proportions, I was looking at a drink I *never* had heard of before. "Orange blossom" was closer, but is still adding some ingredients I never used in it myself. I'm so lost! Do you have the "Bearenstain Bears" in this universe too?
The saloon in St Denis has plenty of bottles behind the bar, implying they're making cocktails. I like the theory that Arthur just doesn't know anything other than beer and whiskey.
@@DeaconPain He's a bandit who would probably spend most of his time in camp. If and when he stops by a saloon, it won't be for long to learn the local cocktails.
The picture of Billy the Kid riding into town with his grizzly band of outlaws and going: "Alright boys, first we'll go straight to the sheriff's office to turn in our guns, get our horses stabled and then I'll treat y'all to a round of daiquiris and ice cream, yeehaaw!" truly gives me life.
Ice Cream was something Wild Bill Hickock admitted to loving when he first got a taste of it, and his preferred drink was some variety of sweet punch, when he could get it.
"Black cowboys are real; but they ain't myths" I remember in Bill and Ted when Napoleon knew what modern ice cream was because it was invented over a hundred of years before he was born.
And if we're going to leave Hollywood logic Ice cream in some variation has been made since the dawn of writing. Even when it was collecting snow and mixing it with milk and honey.
Ice cream was definitely in the states by RDR2's time too, Ben Frenklin was apparently obsessed with the stuff and was known to spend a ridiculous amount of money for the time to get it
11:38 Yes! Ice cream! Whenever I tell people that Mozart (THE Mozart) used to celebrate a good opening night by buying himself an ice cream they stare at me like I've sprouted a second head. We have this vision of the past that's completely divorced from historical fact. Here's another bit of musical trivia, Bach wrote a 30 minute comic opera about a girl with a coffee addiction. The past is weird and different but it's important to remember that it was still populated by humans
@@ΜέλαναςΙσκιος The disconnect is that it wasn't "Ice Cream". It was a frosted treat that was more like flavored shaved ice. Soft serve wasn't in Rome, but the treat is older than most people think. Victorian cucumber-flavored ice creams prove that xD
Benjamin Franklin used to party with his friends and French hookers in a cave to do seances and try drugs. Dude even the Founding Fathers got in their Animal House style experimentation phase.
There used to be a fella in my town (in Wisconsin, mind you) who always wore a big ridiculous cowboy hat and had bull horns mounted on the hood of his beat-up rusty POS Honda. *THAT* takes intestinal fortitude. Or style. Or madness, or something... I'm not sure what, exactly.
He also verbally berates his officers and deputies because they apparently can't catch two scoundrels in an orange car that have the best morals in the county...
I'm glad you brought up the ice trade because I always thought it was funny how Doc Brown in 1885 has this giant homemade contraption to make 2 little ice cubes when that would be wholly unimpressive with historically accurate ice making technology.
@@therideneverends1697 It's always a good time to reminisce on the fact that almost every single great moment in history was played out with everyone hammered off their ass. From the conquests of Alexander the Great to the signing of the Declaration of Independence and beyond, they were all completely smashed.
The fact we need to accept is that Greg is unironically just pulling this fit off. I feel like I’m about to get swindled out of my oil rich plot of land.
of course he is wrong in his over simplification. Claiming "Wild West" is a myth and citing city ordinances ignores why those ordinances were in place in the first place. Vigilantism, wars between factions, and civil disorders were common in those days. Claiming that attempts to keep city life safe and maintain order shows that the Wild West is a myth is silly as shit.
@@MrChickennugget360 There's also the fact that the decision to control guns in a particular town was made because all the residents of the town got together decided that they wanted anyone entering the town to disarm. It was a decision made by the people who lived in the area, not handed down on high by some politician who lived 1000 miles away and who wasn't familiar with the particular situation of the particular town and who would never be effected by negative consequences if that law ended up making things worse for the townspeople.
@@KageMinowara that and i highly doubt that the towns people themselves were disarmed. it was travelers and outsiders who were not allowed weapons not locals.
A thing to note, is that while many towns had strict gun control, much of the frontier wasn't in towns, and people did (as you alluded) a lot of bad shit outside of city limits. In much the same way most lynching happened outside city limits, fighting and heavy gun carrying/use was much more prevalent outside of towns. Posting signs to check guns at your city limits lets you know that lots of people would be showing up to town packing heat, and so they needed to have a law about it.
This is true, but considering the low population density across the frontier, that gun ownership likely wasn't for personal protection, but rather hunting or pest control. Crime rates tend to be fairly low when you can go weeks without human contact. It's a bit like Jim Bob rolling up into town with his squirrel gun rather than telling a bunch of crips to leave their weapons on the table ya know?
Red Dead Online's "Collector" role has a shortlist of "Antique Alcohol" you can collect. You can drink them, or collect the whole set and sell them off to Madam Nazar.
I work in industrial refrigeration and when I took the Operator 1 course we had a whole day about the history of cooling and how technology displaced the massive ice harvesting industry👌🏻
Loved hearing the actual history of when cocktails were invented! In fairness, the game does have gin, bourbon, 2 types of rum, brandy, and moonshine. But it would've been nice if they had included some mixed drinks as well. Maybe even a famous bartender (with a parody name of course) in Saint Denis
Generally, any Spanish word/name that has three syllables will have the penultimate syllable emphasized. For example: Vaquero is "bah-KEH-ro". Sometimes we get lucky and actually see the accent in the word/name. For example: Rodríguez.
This is the reason I love your channel. Not only do you show us how to make drinks but your passion and knowledge about how certain time periods actually were is extremely interesting.
I'm glad Greg talked about this. I read an article who basically called it "The Mild West, actually". In some time frame only a dozen people died from shootouts. The Alamo, basically.
And The Alamo, and that whole war, was fought to preserve slavery. Texas was afraid of being annexed by Mexico mainly because Mexico had outlawed slavery.
@@howtodrink What do you mean Being annexed? Texas was already a part of Mexico and the war of Texas with Mexico broke out after Mexico banned slavery, but they were already a state.
@@ericktellez7632 It is a little more complicated than that. White settlers were allowed to have slaves when Texas was part of Spain (The 2nd of the six flags). A very early thing Mexico did after gaining independence from Spain was to outlaw slavery. They never successfully enforced that in Texas. If you can't enforce a law (or even successfully send out law enforcement) about something as fundamental as slavery, it creates a gray zone whether Texas was ever functionally part of Mexico. A key litmus test for what constitutes state power is a "monopoly on violence". Mexico never was able to exercise that in Texas.
@@Jack-fw4mw Yes I agree once you added that context. The only thing I would contest is that the fact that Mexico did not had a total control of the law in the state does not mean that the settlers did either. They did after the war with Mexico was over. So calling it an annexation on behalf of Mexico is disingenuous, it was more of a contested territory.
Lemon and lime extracts were really popular in the late 1800's - it would not surprise me if they were used in drinks during the cold months, very potent flavor along with the alcohol in it.
The gun thing could really vary by town though. The town I grew up in had no rules whatsoever back then, but there still weren't gunfights every day. Also, guns were actually kind of rare, each family typically had one and it was usually a long gun of some kind because it was for pest control and occasional hunting (which was not a major food source, but if you saw something tasty while you were out working you'd take a shot at it). There weren't enough people out there to really worry about being attacked, because there was no one to attack you, generally speaking. I'm not saying there was no crime or violence (especially not in this town, ha), just it was way more rare than Westerns depict.
@@tiredman99 It depended on the Revolver too. One thing most westerns do not depict is that the most popular large bore revolvers were cap and ball, even into the late 19th century. And they were VASTLY outnumbered by the many cheaper "pocket" revolvers, made by companies like Smith and Wesson, Forehand, Iver Johnson, H&R, etc. I've started seeing more westerns actually represent these lately and I'm very glad about it.
After recently reading Imbibe! (on your recommendation of course), and being decently impressed by the complexity and broad selection of cocktails back in the day, this video more than anything has just demonstrated to me how long ago 1862 actually was and how groundbreakingly innovative the golden age of cockails actually was for it's time.
Greg, I'm a student who just took the ap us history exam the day after this video came out and I swear to God it actually helped me in answering a document based question. Some had to do with the mentions of spirits and the sentiments towards alcohol at the time as well as that famous shoot out in tombstone. When I say them I was just like "YO I just saw this wtf" anyways yea idk it just seemed really cool and funny to me. Lmao basically thanks for the video
The Saint Denis Sazerac is just a Sazerac you can get in Saint Denis as during The Jim Boy Calloway stranger mission the bartender in the 1/2 bit saloon (not Smithfields) in Valentine tells you to have a Sazerac in Saint Denis and not his saloon.
On the point of the Gunfight at the OK Corral: it wasn't even that they refused to hand over their guns: they were on their way to a hotel to hand them over then Wyatt, who thought they had already booked into another hotel, confronted them about why they still had their guns, and as the other Earp brothers were trying to calm him down Wyatt shot first when everyone was looking at him, claiming after the fact that he was responding to someone drawing on him while no-one could see to confirm it. It was a confused panicked shooting that happened over a misunderstanding, in a tiny back alley, lasting only moments, and Wyatt was probably in the wrong, but that's not very romantic or cinematic.
Literally just made a Sazerac yesterday to enjoy after a shrimp boil! I tried the recipe from Cocktail Codex and it was sublime. It was 1.5 oz rye and 0.5 oz of Cognac which really brought out the best of both spirits, four dashes of Peychaud's and a single dash of Angostura, a heaping barspoon of demerara syrup, and the rest the same. Probably my favorite Sazerac ever.
Love the vid! Btw, Ian on Forgotten Weapons is releasing a book soon on Warlord China pistols and as a stretch goal, is including a section on cocktails appropriate to the period and region. Potential for cooperation?
Ian even mentioned that he liked the How To Drink channel, and would enjoy a collab but had no idea what the collab might be, had not even thought about the stretch goal though!
Hey, Greg! Lovely vid so far, just felt i had to tell you that your videos got me into my first bartender job about 1,5 years ago in a speedbar, and now im working in a respected cocktailbar in the most wonderful coastal town in Norway. Thanks for the inspiration and drunken wisdom, I owe alot to you!
YES, been waiting for this episode for AGES man! ive always felt that the drinking culture aspect of rdr2 is one of the more lacking ones. also, greg in a full on cowboy outfit is something i didnt know i needed until now.
I use an atomizer to spritz absinthe into the glass instead of doing a wash and dump. That way you get a good coating but also don't waste good booze by pouring extra out.
As entertaining and informative as all of your content is, THIS one is a gem. Love the history and genuinely didn't know ANYTHING about cocktails in the West.
Oh boy! I love everything about this! Nerdy Topic, Gaming, Drinks - Thank you so so much for uploading and working on new content constantly. All the love from Germany
There’s a lot in RDR2 that seems to indicate there was gonna be a more fleshed out cooking system, with descriptions about the fish especially indicating you might have been able to make meals, maybe you would’ve been able to make drinks too. 😢
I make a sazerac all the time, and you can dissolve the sugar cube fully, it just takes a bit of patience. I also use an atomizer to coat the glass with absinthe, plus a few spritzes over the top, but that's just cause I am a huge fan of absinthe.
I watched the whole video and still read the screen shot as saying "What did R2-D2 get wrong?" and I am still wondering when did R2-D2 make a cocktail.
You are correct with the origin of the word buckaroo as being vacquero! I did research for a college professor about cowboys, and they go back to Indigenous cattle drivers as far back as the 1600s. Around here in the Great Basin, buckaroos describe cowboys, but the term came from Spanish-, then Mexican-employed cattlemen. I LOVE your historical episodes. Keep it up, Greg!
3 things where you're wrong 1 concealed carry was extremely common and only open carry was restricted in many areas 2 at the ok corral the cowboys were in compliance with ordinance 9, they were leaving town and had recovered their firearms prior 3 the cowboys had the express approval of the local sheriff, who even went so far as to deputise many of their members
I wouldn't bat an eye at a cowboy named Deckard Cain in a western other than to wonder if the writers intentionally used it or not. And a bandito nemesis with a nickname of El Diablo would be 100% on brand.
Even in the most remote desert towns, it got cold enough in the winter for pads and lakes to freeze. People would often cut the ice and store them in really cold caves in the mountains. 5th or 6th generation Nevadan here, I don't have historical proof, but thats what I was always told my family did. I even know the name of the mountain they stored ice in!
Ngl, I love the fact that the longer you're on here, the weirder (in a good way) you've gotten. I've been watching since at least the Big Trouble in Little China episode (probably before then, but that's the one I remember being fairly newish when I subscribed) and the energy is just as awesome as the drinks and stories
I think it's cool that you talked about this. Because, like you said, even the furthest settlements on the frontier. Could get their hands-on stuff to make cocktails Because you had places like judge roy beans saloon that you showed a picture of where they had Ice cold beer And Back then that part of texas wasn't really settled in a whole lot of areas
I learned a lot of history I did not know about during this video thanks man. You kept me very interested the entire video. But I guess thats not really new since you manage to do that every video xD
When OutsideXbox made this, they proposed that Beer and whisky were the only drinks Arthur knew and that all the other bottles behind the bar were quote “some kind of sandwich” lmao
I haven't seen any mention of John ordering all kinds of spirits in the first RDR. Go to buy a drink and he'll ask for a brandy, rum, tequila, whatever he's in the mood for. In Mexico he'll even ask for pulque sometimes.
They talk about cocktails in the games. It's just all Arthur drinks are beer and straight whiskey. Also, cowboys are ranch hands. What you're thinking of are gunslingers or outlaws.
Actually ranch hands are ranch hands. Cowboys had an extremely specific and short-lived job of driving cattle from where they were raised to the nearest railroad. Since the railroad expanded rapidly they were out of work within a decade or so (basically the 1850s). "Gunslinger" isn't really an accurate name for any kind of real person as there weren't like random armed drifters just going on adventures. That's what is actually inaccurate about films.
@@nevadanate4957 No. Cowboys were ranch hands. They did more than just drive cattle. They also broke horses and worked with all the animals on the farm. Gunslinger is a slang term for an outlaw. They didn't go on adventures, but the game is very accurate to the life of outlaws. They would drift and camp mostly never settling down. There were a lot more than the famous few.
@@R3fug333 if you work with horses you weren't a "cowboy" cowboys work with cows that's what made them stick out. Calling all ranch workers "cowboys" is a modern shift in language that doesn't reflect the historical context it came from
@@nevadanate4957 Not all ranch workers, just the guys who worked with the animals. There were names for specific jobs, but cowboys worked with all animals. Cows, Sheep, Horses, Chickens, Pigs. Idk who told you Cowboys were literally guys who only herded cattle. That's an insanely specific job. No-one could survive doing just that one job. People had multiple jobs in those days. You had to be multi talented or you wouldn't get work. There's a reason Cowboy is such a popular term. If it only meant "man who herds cattle" then it wouldn't be as popular a term. The more popular term would be Bronco Buster.
@@hayden5639 Never tried any of the Online titles nor do I have in interest in doing so. I have to check but they never did any DLC or updates on the single player titles?
Personal Sazerac recipe: Bar spoon of absinthe 2-3 sugar cubes (demerara preferred) 3 dashes Peychaud's bitters 2 oz rye of choice (I use Sazerac rye) 1 oz brandy of choice 1-2 dashes Angostura bitters Lemon twist -Muddle the sugar cubes with the peychaud's and absinthe in the glass until fully incorporated -add rye, brandy and Angostura and stir until the sugar mostly dissolves -add a single ice cube AFTER mixing and garnish with a fresh lemon twist (I recommend wiping the rim of the glass with it first) I'm really happy with how the recipe is now and adding the ice after mixing makes a big difference. Always open to feedback, enjoy!
And just like this you've given me inspiration for my next Deadlands character: a new scientist chemist looking to make the ultimate cocktails! If you haven't checked out Deadlands, give it a shot! It's a TTRPG based in the 1870s, with heavy doses of horror and the supernatural. A new edition just came out, too.
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The towns banning the carrying of firearms in town only ment that most people didn't open carry not that they weren't armed. Also the towns were more wild the newer they were so there was a lot of towns you would consider wild at one time in their existence but by the 1890s they were mostly gone in america.
@@xPRODIGYxGAMER to add to that, those who were buddy-buddy with the enforcers of those anti carry laws would often be "overlooked" and get a pass on carrying. Also, IIRC some places were only against the carrying of handguns as those who had them were perceived as looking to start trouble.
Iver-Johnson .32s were everywhere around that time, because of how easily concealable they were. Kinda not much different from today actually. If you're in an open carry state, for every one person you actually see carrying, you've probably passed 20 people who kept it hidden.
Another thing about wild west mythology, when a lot of people think of "cowboys" they're probably actually thinking of bandits or outlaws or mercenaries, not about ranch hands who herd cattle on horseback. Being a cowboy probably wasn't half as glamorous as it's presented in Hollywood. Certainly rugged, hard work, but not the type of employment that sees you defending tiny Mexican towns from gangs of bandits very often. Regardless, I'm a big fan of westerns and cowboy mythology in much the same way as Greg is a fan of Tiki, as he explains in his video on that particular theme. It might be artifice, but goddamn it's fun artifice.
11:00 I love that you touched on this fact, when talking about it to people, they think that I'm lying when I say that, or they always reference movies and such like "we don't want the wild west." I feel like it's like any normal thing, it wasn't as crazy as it sounds, they report and retell stories of only the crazy/important things that happen.
Hey comment section. Question for you? Have you ever heard of a maple old fashion? I had a few they were different. But fantastic. For remaking these would you suggest bourbon or rye? And what are your favourite burbons or ryes that you would reccomend?
This is just my personal opinion, but I think rye would "stand up" better to the maple syrup, given how strong of a flavour it can be. Though if you've got a real good peanutty bourbon, that'd be excellent too.
@@RaptorJesus I have tried with rye and I do like the results. I may try something nutty with it. I'm still working on picking the rye or bourbon for some cocktails but I have learned a lot. I can actually mix drinks now.
@@MikeBikes403 My personal faveourite "all purpose" bourbon is Buffalo Trace Kentucky Straight Bourbon. If we're taking everything into consideration, including price, Buffalo Trace might be the best bourbon on the market, at least as far as I'm concerned. It's great neat or on the rocks, great in cocktails, *excellent* in mint juleps. And at its pricepoint I almost feel like I'm just flat-out stealing it.
Here's what I could find about drinking in the West written by historians.While there was a famous manual for mixology ,that does not change the fact that Beer, Rotgut, whiskey,gin, and bourbon straight up were the majority of saloon fare. They also had books on toe dancing at that time but that was also not something the cowboys seem to have found attractive. What did saloon people drink? In those hardscrabble days, the whiskey served in many of the saloons was some pretty wicked stuff made with raw alcohol, burnt sugar, and a little chewing tobacco. No wonder it took on such names as Tanglefoot, Forty-Rod, Tarantula Juice, Taos Lightning, Red Eye, and Coffin Varnish. Down in Arizona, you'd see signs in front of saloons saying “Cool Beer,” not “Cold Beer.” Wet gunny sacks and sawdust would keep the beer fairly cool. Outside of Flagstaff were some ice caves, and saloonkeepers would harvest ice from the caves during the summer. What is the oldest liquor in America? In Kentucky, buffalo carved a pathway that was followed by America's early pioneers. On the spot where the buffalo migration route crossed the Kentucky River, we've been making legendary bourbon whiskey for over 200 years. Buffalo Trace is the oldest continuously operating distillery in America. Why do they call it rotgut? "Rotgut" whiskey (or beer) is so-called because it was so crudely made that it was suspected (quite rightly) of damaging ("rotting") the innards ("guts") of its drinker. What Kind Of Whiskey Did Cowboys Drink? During that period, U.S. brands were popular. Thistle Dew, Old Crow, Hermitage, Old Kentucky, Old Reserve, Coronet, and Log Cabin No. were among the whiskeys. Old Overholt Rye 1810: Old Overholt Rye Begins Production Considered to be America's oldest continuously operating whiskey brand, Old Overholt was founded in Pennsylvania in 1810. Current production takes place at the Jim Beam distillery in Kentucky. No mention of Cosmos or White Russians, or even a Sazerac also New York City and New Orleans are not traditionally considered the West, not every populated place existing in the 1800's would have been "The Wild West"
The only reason I catch these so late is because it’s become a part of my weekend routine. Can’t help but enjoy it before a few more of my other favorite channels.
This is an AMAZING Historical deep dive! Please Please do a colab with Max Miller at Tasting History and do some food/drink pairings based on some 1800's culturally misunderstood thing like the wild west or gold rush!
Hey Greg, the history shown in this episode was fantastic, this was one of your best! On that note, one mortal sin you committed (that I personally do all the time for preference), you put your lemon twist into the Sazerac!
I think Peychaud's would have been appropriate. Peychaud's was invented by a guy who lived in New Orleans and Saint Denis is supposed to be New Orleans essentially so perhaps not Peychaud's but they'd likely have their own version of a fruity anise bitters
Well tbh RDR2 was set pretty late in the “Wild West” era and the story does revolve around them being a dying breed. So yes... some towns would have “strict” laws- BUT they hardly enforced those laws unless someone was causing trouble. Of course it did vary from town to town.
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Hey Greg this is related to the livestream of the editing of this video and I heard you said you were considering moving to the Maritimes. I'm not saying do or don't but if you do move to the Maritimes (I live in NB) be ready to pay much much more for alcohol, a 750 ml bottle of Wild Turkey for example is like a little over 40 dollars here. Also there's no variety. Most liquor stores in Canada are government regulated or something so every liquor store in a province is basically the same and drawing from the same pool of products and they are definitely not the best, for example I can't find old grand dad Bourbon, four roses, Maraschino Liqueur, I think we have a single bottle of mezcal, the only vermouth we have is Martini basically, etc. Also unless you go through like a bunch of stuff you will not be able to have alcohol delivered or shipped from other countries or even other provinces unless you get a friend to send something (from within Canada) and just as an extra fuck you liquor stores will not do special orders or even have product moved from another store in the province to yours. Just wanted to say that since you are into alcohol haha
next do the moonshine from RDO
Some whiskey drinks were mostly rot gut drinks and quiet deadly
Okay, question. Without consulting a book or the internet, from your memory, what do you know of as a "Gin Blossom?"
Follow-up: Same question, but for "Orange Blossom?"
I feel like I crossed over from a parallel universe, because when I looked up the "Gin Blossom" to double check the proportions, I was looking at a drink I *never* had heard of before. "Orange blossom" was closer, but is still adding some ingredients I never used in it myself. I'm so lost! Do you have the "Bearenstain Bears" in this universe too?
Greg, you have to tell me: *How much did you spend on that outfit for this one video?*
No lying now. Lying is for outlaws and rustlers.
My god Greg. This outfit is both a national treasure and a national emergency.
I'm glad this was the first comment I saw lol
I clicked on this video and the first thing that came to mind was "OMG, 1955 Doc Brown just dressed Greg!"
He borrowed this from elton john
I can't think of many things that can be described as both of those things, but this outfit definitely fits the bill.
@@GaMeRfReAkLIVE Doug Dimmadome
The saloon in St Denis has plenty of bottles behind the bar, implying they're making cocktails. I like the theory that Arthur just doesn't know anything other than beer and whiskey.
considering most of what he does is traveling pretty sure most of the alcohol he knows is stuff he can easily carry with him.
@@thesun5275 isn't that a contradiction? A well traveled man should have lots of experience with regional drinks.
@@DeaconPain He's a bandit who would probably spend most of his time in camp. If and when he stops by a saloon, it won't be for long to learn the local cocktails.
@@DeaconPain he's a criminal
@@DeaconPain they find themselves in the wilderness more than cities. Where you couldn't find uptown bars with cocktails. So no, not a contradiction.
"There's no tequila in the game. Why is there no tequila?"
Because Mexico got cut from the game.
Big sads
Mega sads
Then why is it not in the first game? Although to be fair, it isn't as fleshed out.
Mexico in the first game also kinda felt rushed...
@@Hammer9001 it is. If you go to a bar in Mexico John asks for tequila
The picture of Billy the Kid riding into town with his grizzly band of outlaws and going: "Alright boys, first we'll go straight to the sheriff's office to turn in our guns, get our horses stabled and then I'll treat y'all to a round of daiquiris and ice cream, yeehaaw!" truly gives me life.
He was 16 after all
Ice Cream was something Wild Bill Hickock admitted to loving when he first got a taste of it, and his preferred drink was some variety of sweet punch, when he could get it.
Alternative title: Greg declares war on New Orleans
as a Louisiana resident...this comment broke me
*As he should.*
Or impersonates a Securitron from Fallout New Vegas.
@@AWACS_Snowblind what did New Orleans ever do to you?
Alternative alternative: Greg declared war on westerns
The mission where Arthur gets blackout drunk and suddenly everybody looks like Lenny is still among my favourites in that game.
Who doesn't love being able to press X to LENNY?
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@@HollywoodFTW LEMMY!
It was beautiful
LENNY MAH BOY!
"Black cowboys are real; but they ain't myths"
I remember in Bill and Ted when Napoleon knew what modern ice cream was because it was invented over a hundred of years before he was born.
And if we're going to leave Hollywood logic
Ice cream in some variation has been made since the dawn of writing. Even when it was collecting snow and mixing it with milk and honey.
@@allhumansarejusthuman.5776 IIRC Saladin sent a gift of ice cream to Richard the Lionheart when he heard his opponent was ill.
@@allhumansarejusthuman.5776 the Romans used to have ice carted down from the Alps, to make ice cream with
Ice cream was definitely in the states by RDR2's time too, Ben Frenklin was apparently obsessed with the stuff and was known to spend a ridiculous amount of money for the time to get it
@@anevilgoose1034 Thomas Jefferson also loved it, always serving it at parties he hosted
11:38 Yes! Ice cream! Whenever I tell people that Mozart (THE Mozart) used to celebrate a good opening night by buying himself an ice cream they stare at me like I've sprouted a second head. We have this vision of the past that's completely divorced from historical fact. Here's another bit of musical trivia, Bach wrote a 30 minute comic opera about a girl with a coffee addiction. The past is weird and different but it's important to remember that it was still populated by humans
wait till you tell them that (european)ice cream dates back to Rome!
@@ΜέλαναςΙσκιος honestly, there was probably at least one caveman who mixed together snow and crushed berries to make some sort of Frozen sweet treat.
Now I want to watch someone direct a modern take about a Starbucks Girl (TM)
@@ΜέλαναςΙσκιος The disconnect is that it wasn't "Ice Cream". It was a frosted treat that was more like flavored shaved ice. Soft serve wasn't in Rome, but the treat is older than most people think. Victorian cucumber-flavored ice creams prove that xD
Benjamin Franklin used to party with his friends and French hookers in a cave to do seances and try drugs. Dude even the Founding Fathers got in their Animal House style experimentation phase.
My headcanon is this is the real Greg. Off camera he dresses like that and drives an old Cadillac with bull horns on the hood.
There used to be a fella in my town (in Wisconsin, mind you) who always wore a big ridiculous cowboy hat and had bull horns mounted on the hood of his beat-up rusty POS Honda. *THAT* takes intestinal fortitude. Or style. Or madness, or something... I'm not sure what, exactly.
Have one like that here as well ..... I live in Sweden....
He also verbally berates his officers and deputies because they apparently can't catch two scoundrels in an orange car that have the best morals in the county...
You gotta problem with bull horns on grilles?
Someone in our town does that but its a silverado w long horn horns mounted on the hood
I'm glad you brought up the ice trade because I always thought it was funny how Doc Brown in 1885 has this giant homemade contraption to make 2 little ice cubes when that would be wholly unimpressive with historically accurate ice making technology.
Me 1sec into the vid be like: is That Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome?
Sure feels like Doug Dimmadome owner of the dimmsdale dimmadome
NOT RIGHT
Thats right!
That's Doug Dimmadrunk, owner of the Dimsdale Dimmadrink
Doug Dimmadrink, First DimmaCousin to Doug Dimmadome, Owner of the Doug Dimmadome
People regularly forget just how much people used to drink, historically.
Prior to the 20s quite literally everyone was plastered almost always
I knew I was born at the wrong time in history
There's wisdom in wine, bravery in whiskey, and bacteria in water
@@therideneverends1697 It's always a good time to reminisce on the fact that almost every single great moment in history was played out with everyone hammered off their ass.
From the conquests of Alexander the Great to the signing of the Declaration of Independence and beyond, they were all completely smashed.
Trying to make up for it. The drinking, not the other part.
4:02 Imagine how incredibly refreshing an "Ice beer" would have been after a long hot day of ranching before refrigeration became commonplace.
Worth its weight in gold out there I’m sure
InRangeTV did a video on Roy Bean the owner of the bar in the picture. He has a crazy story behind him.
@@LanceSniper001 the hanging judge
@@LanceSniper001 what's the video name? I'd love to hear Ian's smooth and calm voice talk about it
@@qq13563817153 you would be stuck with Karl's satanist voice
The fact we need to accept is that Greg is unironically just pulling this fit off. I feel like I’m about to get swindled out of my oil rich plot of land.
Greg tearing down old West myths and I’m just here like
“Trust! The! Plan!!”
John made it *yacks blood* he's about the only one
of course he is wrong in his over simplification. Claiming "Wild West" is a myth and citing city ordinances ignores why those ordinances were in place in the first place. Vigilantism, wars between factions, and civil disorders were common in those days. Claiming that attempts to keep city life safe and maintain order shows that the Wild West is a myth is silly as shit.
@@MrChickennugget360 There's also the fact that the decision to control guns in a particular town was made because all the residents of the town got together decided that they wanted anyone entering the town to disarm. It was a decision made by the people who lived in the area, not handed down on high by some politician who lived 1000 miles away and who wasn't familiar with the particular situation of the particular town and who would never be effected by negative consequences if that law ended up making things worse for the townspeople.
@@KageMinowara that and i highly doubt that the towns people themselves were disarmed. it was travelers and outsiders who were not allowed weapons not locals.
@@MrChickennugget360 Exactly.
"My name's Doug Dimmadome. Owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome."
Sorry Greg but you look too perfect
Hats not big enough
@@ztmackin We can't see his other ''hat'' ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Exactly what i came to the comments looking for 👌 bless you
A thing to note, is that while many towns had strict gun control, much of the frontier wasn't in towns, and people did (as you alluded) a lot of bad shit outside of city limits. In much the same way most lynching happened outside city limits, fighting and heavy gun carrying/use was much more prevalent outside of towns. Posting signs to check guns at your city limits lets you know that lots of people would be showing up to town packing heat, and so they needed to have a law about it.
This is true, but considering the low population density across the frontier, that gun ownership likely wasn't for personal protection, but rather hunting or pest control. Crime rates tend to be fairly low when you can go weeks without human contact. It's a bit like Jim Bob rolling up into town with his squirrel gun rather than telling a bunch of crips to leave their weapons on the table ya know?
Rational arguments will be ignored because they are hard to use for one's personal agenda. TY.
Red Dead Online's "Collector" role has a shortlist of "Antique Alcohol" you can collect. You can drink them, or collect the whole set and sell them off to Madam Nazar.
Hope he sees this comment because he'd have a field day with those
also moonshiner recipe.
Which, funny enough, includes both Old Tom, and London Dry Gin.
I work in industrial refrigeration and when I took the Operator 1 course we had a whole day about the history of cooling and how technology displaced the massive ice harvesting industry👌🏻
Loved hearing the actual history of when cocktails were invented! In fairness, the game does have gin, bourbon, 2 types of rum, brandy, and moonshine. But it would've been nice if they had included some mixed drinks as well. Maybe even a famous bartender (with a parody name of course) in Saint Denis
Thomas Jerry instead of Jerry Thomas
@@frederikjuhl7929 Thomas Jerry, ha! And there's a greyish cat and a brown mouse in a room upstairs above his bar.
So you're telling me wake-up juice is the most accurate portrayal of drinks in the early west?
I’m not so sure- honestly I don’t think there’s any hot or spicy drinks from that timeframe
Greg, best video so far. You sure didn't go all yelly-belly but served spoonful of sass in all directions. Thank you for the bitters.
Generally, any Spanish word/name that has three syllables will have the penultimate syllable emphasized. For example: Vaquero is "bah-KEH-ro". Sometimes we get lucky and actually see the accent in the word/name. For example: Rodríguez.
Can confirm thetes an avvent in Rodrìguez, motherbkeeps kickong my ass for forgetting it
@@pablocruz5613 are you okay?
@@positivityboi1232 He lost half the letters on his keyboard...
Yup... but as a quick way to remember is the 3 syllable “rule” (when it works, of course).
I can't see Rodriguez without thinking about Bender.
Greg, motioning to pedestal: and here’s where I’d put my list of drinks from RDR2...IF I HAD ANY
While he's dressed as Doug Dimmadome 😆
You should make a series debunking stuff called Buzz Kill.
Call it Buzzed-kill and he shoots it after the HTD episodes so he's already tipsy
@@shadowforce96 I need this yesterday!
That is actually a really good idea!
+1
@@shadowforce96 Sounds like Drunk History, but he does it to himself instead of having a host giggle at him and prod him along. I love the concept!
This is the reason I love your channel. Not only do you show us how to make drinks but your passion and knowledge about how certain time periods actually were is extremely interesting.
I'm glad Greg talked about this. I read an article who basically called it "The Mild West, actually". In some time frame only a dozen people died from shootouts. The Alamo, basically.
And The Alamo, and that whole war, was fought to preserve slavery. Texas was afraid of being annexed by Mexico mainly because Mexico had outlawed slavery.
@@howtodrink as a Texan we also mostly did not want to join the union because of that
@@howtodrink
What do you mean Being annexed? Texas was already a part of Mexico and the war of Texas with Mexico broke out after Mexico banned slavery, but they were already a state.
@@ericktellez7632 It is a little more complicated than that. White settlers were allowed to have slaves when Texas was part of Spain (The 2nd of the six flags). A very early thing Mexico did after gaining independence from Spain was to outlaw slavery. They never successfully enforced that in Texas. If you can't enforce a law (or even successfully send out law enforcement) about something as fundamental as slavery, it creates a gray zone whether Texas was ever functionally part of Mexico. A key litmus test for what constitutes state power is a "monopoly on violence". Mexico never was able to exercise that in Texas.
@@Jack-fw4mw
Yes I agree once you added that context. The only thing I would contest is that the fact that Mexico did not had a total control of the law in the state does not mean that the settlers did either. They did after the war with Mexico was over. So calling it an annexation on behalf of Mexico is disingenuous, it was more of a contested territory.
Lemon and lime extracts were really popular in the late 1800's - it would not surprise me if they were used in drinks during the cold months, very potent flavor along with the alcohol in it.
The gun thing could really vary by town though. The town I grew up in had no rules whatsoever back then, but there still weren't gunfights every day. Also, guns were actually kind of rare, each family typically had one and it was usually a long gun of some kind because it was for pest control and occasional hunting (which was not a major food source, but if you saw something tasty while you were out working you'd take a shot at it). There weren't enough people out there to really worry about being attacked, because there was no one to attack you, generally speaking. I'm not saying there was no crime or violence (especially not in this town, ha), just it was way more rare than Westerns depict.
Plus a revolver and belt and holster was like $30. Which was a crazy amount of money back then
@@tiredman99 most cowboys just had a rifle to put down cattle if needed
@@tiredman99 Exactly. $30 from 1913 is equal to $810 today. If we say a rifle from the time period of RDR2 cost $20 then, it would be $630 today.
@@tiredman99 That’s why conversions of cap and ball revolvers were popular.
@@tiredman99 It depended on the Revolver too. One thing most westerns do not depict is that the most popular large bore revolvers were cap and ball, even into the late 19th century. And they were VASTLY outnumbered by the many cheaper "pocket" revolvers, made by companies like Smith and Wesson, Forehand, Iver Johnson, H&R, etc. I've started seeing more westerns actually represent these lately and I'm very glad about it.
After recently reading Imbibe! (on your recommendation of course), and being decently impressed by the complexity and broad selection of cocktails back in the day, this video more than anything has just demonstrated to me how long ago 1862 actually was and how groundbreakingly innovative the golden age of cockails actually was for it's time.
Greg, I'm a student who just took the ap us history exam the day after this video came out and I swear to God it actually helped me in answering a document based question. Some had to do with the mentions of spirits and the sentiments towards alcohol at the time as well as that famous shoot out in tombstone. When I say them I was just like "YO I just saw this wtf" anyways yea idk it just seemed really cool and funny to me. Lmao basically thanks for the video
Greg is wearing the "Yeah. I have, Doc. Clint Eastwood never wore anything like this." outfit.
This is the best comment.
You get that outfit off a dead Chinee?
@@packardcaribien 😂.
The Saint Denis Sazerac is just a Sazerac you can get in Saint Denis as during The Jim Boy Calloway stranger mission the bartender in the 1/2 bit saloon (not Smithfields) in Valentine tells you to have a Sazerac in Saint Denis and not his saloon.
On the point of the Gunfight at the OK Corral: it wasn't even that they refused to hand over their guns: they were on their way to a hotel to hand them over then Wyatt, who thought they had already booked into another hotel, confronted them about why they still had their guns, and as the other Earp brothers were trying to calm him down Wyatt shot first when everyone was looking at him, claiming after the fact that he was responding to someone drawing on him while no-one could see to confirm it. It was a confused panicked shooting that happened over a misunderstanding, in a tiny back alley, lasting only moments, and Wyatt was probably in the wrong, but that's not very romantic or cinematic.
Jesus Christ I'm amazed at how insanely good the production quality of these videos are
Iirc Greg's old day job was a film editor or something so that's why he he knows how to shoot the booze like it's a Superbowl ad.
@@Pxtl makes sense tho, plus the man also has charisma so figures that he has that kinda experience
Plus setting a stationary camera up isn’t hard. If he has certain zoom in spots he can pre set that up as well. Post editing is a nightmare though.
Literally just made a Sazerac yesterday to enjoy after a shrimp boil! I tried the recipe from Cocktail Codex and it was sublime. It was 1.5 oz rye and 0.5 oz of Cognac which really brought out the best of both spirits, four dashes of Peychaud's and a single dash of Angostura, a heaping barspoon of demerara syrup, and the rest the same. Probably my favorite Sazerac ever.
Honestly having to surrender your guns in town would make the game way way better because it would force you to use other types of combat.
Love the vid! Btw, Ian on Forgotten Weapons is releasing a book soon on Warlord China pistols and as a stretch goal, is including a section on cocktails appropriate to the period and region. Potential for cooperation?
I would sell several organs to see that
Ian even mentioned that he liked the How To Drink channel, and would enjoy a collab but had no idea what the collab might be, had not even thought about the stretch goal though!
Wow, that's a strong start to the video haha
Hey, Greg! Lovely vid so far, just felt i had to tell you that your videos got me into my first bartender job about 1,5 years ago in a speedbar, and now im working in a respected cocktailbar in the most wonderful coastal town in Norway. Thanks for the inspiration and drunken wisdom, I owe alot to you!
YES, been waiting for this episode for AGES man! ive always felt that the drinking culture aspect of rdr2 is one of the more lacking ones. also, greg in a full on cowboy outfit is something i didnt know i needed until now.
I use an atomizer to spritz absinthe into the glass instead of doing a wash and dump. That way you get a good coating but also don't waste good booze by pouring extra out.
can you make a horse reviver because my horse never feels like surviving and 2 foot fall
Deep Rock Galactic drinks: Arkenstout and glyphid slammer!
Ooh cool idea, DRG is awesome
My favorite internet drinky man!
As entertaining and informative as all of your content is, THIS one is a gem. Love the history and genuinely didn't know ANYTHING about cocktails in the West.
"Ok, this one is slightly political"
That one caption got me 🤣
Oh no, Greg's lost it! Love the hat though!
did he every REALLY have it?
Oh boy! I love everything about this! Nerdy Topic, Gaming, Drinks - Thank you so so much for uploading and working on new content constantly. All the love from Germany
There’s a lot in RDR2 that seems to indicate there was gonna be a more fleshed out cooking system, with descriptions about the fish especially indicating you might have been able to make meals, maybe you would’ve been able to make drinks too. 😢
Online there are a lot of stew recipes and they did add mixed moonshine recipes if you play that role.
They could add so much more.
I make a sazerac all the time, and you can dissolve the sugar cube fully, it just takes a bit of patience. I also use an atomizer to coat the glass with absinthe, plus a few spritzes over the top, but that's just cause I am a huge fan of absinthe.
I watched the whole video and still read the screen shot as saying "What did R2-D2 get wrong?" and I am still wondering when did R2-D2 make a cocktail.
When he was working on Jabba's sail barge
@@JohnKelly2 Right!!!! I forgot that.
I misread the thumbnail as R2D2, and I was irrationally excited and horribly confused
this is such a fun episode!!! love the history part as always, thank you for another great one :D
You are correct with the origin of the word buckaroo as being vacquero! I did research for a college professor about cowboys, and they go back to Indigenous cattle drivers as far back as the 1600s. Around here in the Great Basin, buckaroos describe cowboys, but the term came from Spanish-, then Mexican-employed cattlemen. I LOVE your historical episodes.
Keep it up, Greg!
truly worth his own season as an antagonist on Justified
absolutely, bring it back for season 7 just to have Cowboy Greg be the villain
3 things where you're wrong
1 concealed carry was extremely common and only open carry was restricted in many areas
2 at the ok corral the cowboys were in compliance with ordinance 9, they were leaving town and had recovered their firearms prior
3 the cowboys had the express approval of the local sheriff, who even went so far as to deputise many of their members
Never mind the drinks, Greg showin us the Drip God Status
dripped so hard he drowned
Seeing Greg in that geddup and I immediately thought "He's a rhinestone cooooowwwbooooi!" And I kinda love that.
This is probably one of my favorite uploads in a while. Also appreciated the history lesson!
"Sit a while and let me jaw at you" is just the wild west version of "Stay a while, and listen."
I wouldn't bat an eye at a cowboy named Deckard Cain in a western other than to wonder if the writers intentionally used it or not. And a bandito nemesis with a nickname of El Diablo would be 100% on brand.
Even in the most remote desert towns, it got cold enough in the winter for pads and lakes to freeze. People would often cut the ice and store them in really cold caves in the mountains. 5th or 6th generation Nevadan here, I don't have historical proof, but thats what I was always told my family did. I even know the name of the mountain they stored ice in!
Ngl, I love the fact that the longer you're on here, the weirder (in a good way) you've gotten. I've been watching since at least the Big Trouble in Little China episode (probably before then, but that's the one I remember being fairly newish when I subscribed) and the energy is just as awesome as the drinks and stories
I think it's cool that you talked about this. Because, like you said, even the furthest settlements on the frontier. Could get their hands-on stuff to make cocktails Because you had places like judge roy beans saloon that you showed a picture of where they had Ice cold beer And Back then that part of texas wasn't really settled in a whole lot of areas
I learned a lot of history I did not know about during this video thanks man. You kept me very interested the entire video. But I guess thats not really new since you manage to do that every video xD
you are slowly turning into a history channel and its seriously scratching my drunk history itch!!!!
I just realized that just because of ice cream, Blazing Saddles was more accurate than Red Dead Redemption 2.
My guess would be that Beer and Whiskey is all Arthur and John want to drink. Cant speak for the NPC's though
When OutsideXbox made this, they proposed that Beer and whisky were the only drinks Arthur knew and that all the other bottles behind the bar were quote “some kind of sandwich” lmao
I think its just rockstar wanting their semi historical game and their classic western tropes at the same time
Arthur clearly enjoys a good cup of Coffee too, based on cutscenes and dialogue.
@@MikefromTexas1 and there are all the little bottles of gin, rum, and brandy that are consumables in game.
I haven't seen any mention of John ordering all kinds of spirits in the first RDR. Go to buy a drink and he'll ask for a brandy, rum, tequila, whatever he's in the mood for. In Mexico he'll even ask for pulque sometimes.
I almost forgot what awesome stories one can hear on this channel. And I have to say, you are an admirable storyteller Greg. Thank you.
They talk about cocktails in the games. It's just all Arthur drinks are beer and straight whiskey. Also, cowboys are ranch hands. What you're thinking of are gunslingers or outlaws.
Actually ranch hands are ranch hands. Cowboys had an extremely specific and short-lived job of driving cattle from where they were raised to the nearest railroad. Since the railroad expanded rapidly they were out of work within a decade or so (basically the 1850s). "Gunslinger" isn't really an accurate name for any kind of real person as there weren't like random armed drifters just going on adventures. That's what is actually inaccurate about films.
@@nevadanate4957 No. Cowboys were ranch hands. They did more than just drive cattle. They also broke horses and worked with all the animals on the farm. Gunslinger is a slang term for an outlaw. They didn't go on adventures, but the game is very accurate to the life of outlaws. They would drift and camp mostly never settling down. There were a lot more than the famous few.
@@R3fug333 if you work with horses you weren't a "cowboy" cowboys work with cows that's what made them stick out. Calling all ranch workers "cowboys" is a modern shift in language that doesn't reflect the historical context it came from
@@nevadanate4957 Not all ranch workers, just the guys who worked with the animals. There were names for specific jobs, but cowboys worked with all animals. Cows, Sheep, Horses, Chickens, Pigs. Idk who told you Cowboys were literally guys who only herded cattle. That's an insanely specific job. No-one could survive doing just that one job. People had multiple jobs in those days. You had to be multi talented or you wouldn't get work. There's a reason Cowboy is such a popular term. If it only meant "man who herds cattle" then it wouldn't be as popular a term. The more popular term would be Bronco Buster.
This is probably my favorite intro.
Rockstar, listen to this video. We need a DLC for this. (Preferably free.)
Rockstar and free in the same sentence lmao
Rockstar ain't ever making DLC as long as they have online money grab bullshit
@@sydalg95 I know. I might be delirious.
@@hayden5639 Never tried any of the Online titles nor do I have in interest in doing so.
I have to check but they never did any DLC or updates on the single player titles?
@@sydalg95 right lol, it goes right along with the word u p d a t e
Personal Sazerac recipe:
Bar spoon of absinthe
2-3 sugar cubes (demerara preferred)
3 dashes Peychaud's bitters
2 oz rye of choice (I use Sazerac rye)
1 oz brandy of choice
1-2 dashes Angostura bitters
Lemon twist
-Muddle the sugar cubes with the peychaud's and absinthe in the glass until fully incorporated
-add rye, brandy and Angostura and stir until the sugar mostly dissolves
-add a single ice cube AFTER mixing and garnish with a fresh lemon twist (I recommend wiping the rim of the glass with it first)
I'm really happy with how the recipe is now and adding the ice after mixing makes a big difference. Always open to feedback, enjoy!
Even Blazing Saddles had an ice cream parlor! C'mon Rockstar!
If 25% of cowboys were dark skinned, than Blazing Saddles is pretty historically acurate ^^
There is an ice cream parlour in Saint Denis, you can’t access it but it is there
And just like this you've given me inspiration for my next Deadlands character: a new scientist chemist looking to make the ultimate cocktails!
If you haven't checked out Deadlands, give it a shot! It's a TTRPG based in the 1870s, with heavy doses of horror and the supernatural. A new edition just came out, too.
There was also Howard Johnsons in blazing saddles. They had ice cream.
Greg, I have to applaud you! Besides making amazing fun drinking videos, you also make great ads for your sponsors that, IMO, are better than most professional advertising videos you see around. Keep up the great work, my friend! (From a subscriber)
The towns banning the carrying of firearms in town only ment that most people didn't open carry not that they weren't armed. Also the towns were more wild the newer they were so there was a lot of towns you would consider wild at one time in their existence but by the 1890s they were mostly gone in america.
People break rules, that doesn't mean westerns are accurate.
@@xPRODIGYxGAMER to add to that, those who were buddy-buddy with the enforcers of those anti carry laws would often be "overlooked" and get a pass on carrying. Also, IIRC some places were only against the carrying of handguns as those who had them were perceived as looking to start trouble.
Iver-Johnson .32s were everywhere around that time, because of how easily concealable they were.
Kinda not much different from today actually. If you're in an open carry state, for every one person you actually see carrying, you've probably passed 20 people who kept it hidden.
@@vitoscaletta7151 Im carrying most of the time. Greg was trying to take a shot at our 2a. But like every gun grabber, he missed.
@@phillow7749 but he put "NOT POLITICAL" on the screen, so clearly there was no agenda behind those remarks! /s
Another thing about wild west mythology, when a lot of people think of "cowboys" they're probably actually thinking of bandits or outlaws or mercenaries, not about ranch hands who herd cattle on horseback. Being a cowboy probably wasn't half as glamorous as it's presented in Hollywood. Certainly rugged, hard work, but not the type of employment that sees you defending tiny Mexican towns from gangs of bandits very often. Regardless, I'm a big fan of westerns and cowboy mythology in much the same way as Greg is a fan of Tiki, as he explains in his video on that particular theme. It might be artifice, but goddamn it's fun artifice.
I'd like to say that it'd be so much better if they replaced the health/stamina/deadeye tonics with cocktails and drinks that did the same thing
11:00 I love that you touched on this fact, when talking about it to people, they think that I'm lying when I say that, or they always reference movies and such like "we don't want the wild west."
I feel like it's like any normal thing, it wasn't as crazy as it sounds, they report and retell stories of only the crazy/important things that happen.
Perfect timing with this upload, I just started playing RDR2.
Hey comment section. Question for you? Have you ever heard of a maple old fashion? I had a few they were different. But fantastic. For remaking these would you suggest bourbon or rye? And what are your favourite burbons or ryes that you would reccomend?
This is just my personal opinion, but I think rye would "stand up" better to the maple syrup, given how strong of a flavour it can be. Though if you've got a real good peanutty bourbon, that'd be excellent too.
@@RaptorJesus I have tried with rye and I do like the results. I may try something nutty with it. I'm still working on picking the rye or bourbon for some cocktails but I have learned a lot. I can actually mix drinks now.
@@MikeBikes403 My personal faveourite "all purpose" bourbon is Buffalo Trace Kentucky Straight Bourbon. If we're taking everything into consideration, including price, Buffalo Trace might be the best bourbon on the market, at least as far as I'm concerned. It's great neat or on the rocks, great in cocktails, *excellent* in mint juleps. And at its pricepoint I almost feel like I'm just flat-out stealing it.
Love the little edit of the gunfire in the intro. 🤣
Turning 21 in a couple weeks and I’m getting all kinds of ideas for my birthday with your channel thanks bro
Our boy lookin’ like a crisp $10 dolla’ bill with that cowboy drip.
Here's what I could find about drinking in the West written by historians.While there was a famous manual for mixology ,that does not change the fact that Beer, Rotgut, whiskey,gin, and bourbon straight up were the majority of saloon fare. They also had books on toe dancing at that time but that was also not something the cowboys seem to have found attractive.
What did saloon people drink?
In those hardscrabble days, the whiskey served in many of the saloons was some pretty wicked stuff made with raw alcohol, burnt sugar, and a little chewing tobacco. No wonder it took on such names as Tanglefoot, Forty-Rod, Tarantula Juice, Taos Lightning, Red Eye, and Coffin Varnish.
Down in Arizona, you'd see signs in front of saloons saying “Cool Beer,” not “Cold Beer.” Wet gunny sacks and sawdust would keep the beer fairly cool. Outside of Flagstaff were some ice caves, and saloonkeepers would harvest ice from the caves during the summer.
What is the oldest liquor in America?
In Kentucky, buffalo carved a pathway that was followed by America's early pioneers. On the spot where the buffalo migration route crossed the Kentucky River, we've been making legendary bourbon whiskey for over 200 years. Buffalo Trace is the oldest continuously operating distillery in America.
Why do they call it rotgut?
"Rotgut" whiskey (or beer) is so-called because it was so crudely made that it was suspected (quite rightly) of damaging ("rotting") the innards ("guts") of its drinker.
What Kind Of Whiskey Did Cowboys Drink? During that period, U.S. brands were popular. Thistle Dew, Old Crow, Hermitage, Old Kentucky, Old Reserve, Coronet, and Log Cabin No. were among the whiskeys.
Old Overholt Rye
1810: Old Overholt Rye Begins Production
Considered to be America's oldest continuously operating whiskey brand, Old Overholt was founded in Pennsylvania in 1810. Current production takes place at the Jim Beam distillery in Kentucky.
No mention of Cosmos or White Russians, or even a Sazerac also New York City and New Orleans are not traditionally considered the West, not every populated place existing in the 1800's would have been "The Wild West"
Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome?
Yes
New Orleans Sazerac is my favorite cocktail. I love the rye, the sweetness, the zest of the lemon and the hint of anise... Delicious
I really wish Greg talked with the old west accent more often.
The only reason I catch these so late is because it’s become a part of my weekend routine. Can’t help but enjoy it before a few more of my other favorite channels.
love your intro feel it not getting old any sooner, I have not watch your video for months and the trumpet is classic
This is an AMAZING Historical deep dive! Please Please do a colab with Max Miller at Tasting History and do some food/drink pairings based on some 1800's culturally misunderstood thing like the wild west or gold rush!
Hey Greg, the history shown in this episode was fantastic, this was one of your best! On that note, one mortal sin you committed (that I personally do all the time for preference), you put your lemon twist into the Sazerac!
I think Peychaud's would have been appropriate. Peychaud's was invented by a guy who lived in New Orleans and Saint Denis is supposed to be New Orleans essentially so perhaps not Peychaud's but they'd likely have their own version of a fruity anise bitters
I came to hear about booze in a video game, and left with an Associates degree in Old West history. I love it! Never stop being passionate Greg.
I love how its a drinking channel and its almost 13 mins in before any drinks are even started lmao
Well tbh RDR2 was set pretty late in the “Wild West” era and the story does revolve around them being a dying breed. So yes... some towns would have “strict” laws- BUT they hardly enforced those laws unless someone was causing trouble. Of course it did vary from town to town.
Your channel is wonderful and you've dug out a deep hidden passion for cocktails. You are excellent