Pac ddnt fight maidana and canelo stop saying he fought everyone, and most of the guys he fought after floyd beat, and u can't name 1 fighter that manny beat that will beat floyd mayweather, ur can't expect floyd to fight everyone that calls him out they all just wanted the big pay day, when floyd was pretty boy they ddnt want a piece of him .
I find it funny how as soon as a black man catches up to or surpasses Rocky Marciano's BS 49 & 0 record, yes I called it BS because he fought his own brother and he lost fighting under a different name) that all of a sudden they start saying stuff like what Max is saying (Julio Cesar Chavez was 87-0 but they weren't saying this when Marciano had the record even though technically he didn't. You never heard of anyone challenging Marciano's mythical record (and yes it is definitely a MYTH) and now they're so quick to come out of the closet and challenge Mayweather's record. Yet Chavez Senior beat 77 BUMS (nobody knows any of his opponents in those 77 or so bouts (maybe even more) without going to BoxRec or Google to figure who it is he beat and what those fighters he beat went on to do in the sport of boxing. We can see who Floyd beat, more than half of them were Champions and quite a few of them are still in the sport or done well (being Champs) and many of them will end up in the Hall of Fame. Tell me how many fighters out of those 87 or so that Chavez Sr fought will be in the Hall of Fame without going to Google or BoxRec??? Max is an HBO (Hate Bruthas Only) guy so of course he is here to diminish the accomplishments of Mayweather in any way he can, he's just doing his job as their Slave but even he knows that Floyd surpassing Marciano's garbage record is head and shoulders above anyone in the sport, why else would they make such a big deal about it when it was Marciano if it wasn't but now that Floyd has passed it they're looking for any excuse to keep their object of White Superiority over this sport.
mayweather added 1 win by fighting mcgregor , a boxing nobody and a debutante . . mayweather fought berto instead of a stronger fighter like amir khan, shawn porter, or timothy bradley just for the sake of an easier win to tie up rocky marciano's record, also for easier money, and more champions defeated. . mayweather fought a clearly less experienced alvarez (NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY CANELO WAS STILL BUDDING UP) because once canelo gets stronger he will be too tough for him, so beating him before he reach his prime is a smart tactical more to diminish a possible tough fight in the future as he now has an alibi that he already defeated him . . and you are saying that floyd's 50-0 career is better than marciano's when he himself has obviously cherrypicked his way to 23 champions defeated and 50-0-0?!. . WORST, YOU HAVE TO PULL UP THE "HE IS HATED CUZ HE'S BLACK" TRUMP CARD ON A BOXING DISCUSSION! THAT IS CALLED REVERSE RACISM! YOU ALLEGED PEOPLE TO BE RACIST MAKING YOU YOURSELF RACIST! THE MOMENT YOU BRING UP SKIN COLOR IN A DISCUSSION THAT IS NOT POLITICAL IS RACIST! YOU CROSSED THE LINE BUDDY! . YOU ARE BEING RACIST TO ROCKY MARCIANO, TO MAX KELLERMAN, AND TO ANY NON-BLACK PEOPLE WHO BELIEVES THAT FLOYD IS NOT THE TBE . BLACK LIVES MATTER MY ASS!
@@jrcuartz1829 You can't cherrypick 23 champions. It's always some kind of excuse to diminish Mayweather's legacy but you clowns don't apply it to Marciano. Why? Because you don't know shit about him or his resume. He fought mostly bums and he definitely cherry picked older champions. Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Wolcott and Joe Louis were old as f*ck when he fought them. Floyd has beaten more elite hall of fame boxers than champs that Marciano beat. He's nowhere close to Mayweather's legacy. Floyd would still have the best resume of all time even with a few losses. The 50-0 is just a cherry on top 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@AWesker99 ok first of all that 50-0-0 is cherrypicked. 1.) Cherrypicked a past prime pacquiao 2.) Cherrypicked a pre prime canelo 3.) Cherrypicked B fighter berto for 49th win 4.) Cherrypicked boxing debutante mcgregor for 50th win. 5.) Now cherrypicking another boxing nobody paul for 51st win to tie up another win-loss record of 51-0. Champions sure. You cant cherrypick. You cant even say cherrypicked a weak fighter so still giving props to B champ berto. But to surpass a long held record by winning against an entry level boxer at this point of his career is just shameful. Why not fight crawford or spence? A rematch with the uninjured pacquiao or vastly improved canelo? Why not fight the most dangerous oppositions you could ever face even at advanced age, past prime? Records are records. Ok sure he got the W on paper even if he lost to castillo and pacquiao. Sure. Paper wins. Sure 22 champions defeated. The current boxing GOAT has 21. But you can nvr deny the fact that he cherrypicked his legacy in the end . He did. You cant deny that. You are a flomosexual if you do. 50th win against mcgregor??? His soon 51st against paul? Shameful.
@@jrcuartz1829 he lost against Castillo 1. Lost against Maidana 1. Lost against Pacquiao. When you think about it, agreeing to fight a youtuber while the people you accused of using PEDs, Pacquiao at that time supposedly should have fought Spence after Crawford deal fell and Canelo the best P4P fighter at the time. That alone is shameful. Floyd is the best Jr. lightweight ever, had arguments in other weight classes but not in the Greatest Ever. Watch this guy again fighting a high school tiktoker at Dubai
Floyd cannot be compared to Ray Robinson, Ali, Leonard etc..as Floyd didn't fight everybody and anyone, he fights guys who are over the hill, closer to his age, or guys like Canelo who had no business being in the ring with Floyd as his resume was very poor ( Rhodes, Hatton, Lopez etc..) coming into the bout and the Trout fight was very controversial. Pacman reminds Ali of himself as he fought everyone and anyone which is not surprising Ali is picking Pacquiao to win.
Nabz mo Do you know who was fighting when Ray Robinson was fighting? Do you know that all the fights he has was against the best out? I dont. Im not old enough to know. I suspect you dont know either and have just been told he was the best fighter. Ive seen tape. I cant say he was the best cause thats not my era. I have no clue who he was fighting in the fights i saw and if someone else was "calling him out" at the time.
J Johnson Are you comparing Mayweather to Ray Robinson? HAHAHHAAH, Floyd has cherry picked fighters to suit his style, you ever think Floyd will pick a slick boxer that won't come forward? Floyd likes that relentless pressure which Floyd likes because he's a counter puncher. The two Maidana fights said everything I needed to know, the guy is a cherry picker and a fraud. I know Floyd will pick off Pacman and cruse to a victory, Pacman doesn't have the boxing skills or the smarts to deal with Floyd.
Nabz mo What I am saying is that I was not around for Ray Robinson's career and I don't think you were either. I was pointing out your initial post sounded as if you were there and it was first hand knowledge. All in all you were told he was the best and that's why you hold that opinion. My observation was simply that there are a lot of fight fans that hold beliefs that are not their own and can only be supported by what someone told them and not what they saw. Never saw live fights of Ray Robinson so I cant objectively come to an opinion. I think most people, such as yourself, should adopt that same philosophy and speak about what you know and not what you heard or was told.
He's a floyd hater!!!!!! All the fighters he's talking about NEVER EVER beat the caliber of fighters floyd beat! Not even sugar Ray Robinson, who did he fight to get 130 wins.. Joe Louis fought bums and so did Ray Robinson
Ur right and he ends by saying Pacquiao fought every body, well he ddnt fight maidana and canelo, and most of the guys he fought them after floyd already beat them...
The most egregious example of a top-flight boxer ducking a worthy challenger happened more than six decades ago, when the one and only Sugar Ray Robinson somehow managed to avoid fighting a contender named Charley Burley. Robinson wasn't alone in wanting no part of Burley. Marcel Cerdan and Jake LaMotta, middleweights like Robinson, as well as Billy Conn, the Pittsburgh light heavyweight who came within six minutes of dethroning Joe Louis, also found ways to cross to the other side of the street when they saw Burley coming. And it was no surprise. No less an authority than Eddie Futch, who trained four of the five men who beat Muhammad Ali, called Burley "the greatest fighter I have ever seen. - Wallace Matthews, ESPNNewYork Funny how people keep speaking on eras they werent around to watch. You guys have no idea who your beloved fighters "ducked" while you are saying they are the best.
Kellerman is absolutely correct pacquiao is the greatest fighter of all time ,three time fighter of the Year ,fighter of the decade,eight time belt holder,and icon in the world, you tell me who is better than that!!!! The truth sayer
exactly, pacman fought everybody. Floyd didn;t in their primes. dodged for money. his record is padded therefore, and wont go down as all great as a result.
Owen fox - Living an Inspired, Empowered & Enlivened LIFE!! Alot of the fighters Manny fought, Floyd fought first, when they were younger, except for Marquez & Cotto. He fought Hatton Before, De La Hoya, Mosley. Manny did fight Cotto three years earlier than Floyd. Yes Floyd does pick and choose his fights sometimes, but when you are undefeated and have to power to do so, who wouldn't. I am a Manny fan, but you have to respect Floyd.
Owen fox - Conscious, Healthy, Happy Living I wonder who are these fighters you are talking about when you say Pacquiao fought everybody. There's literally no fighter that should be compared to Floyd because Floyd started fighting world class fighters at age of nineteen and you telling me about Pacquiao a guy that started fighting top fighters around his 30+ fight. Pacquiao fought great fighters when they should have retired already. Who are these fighters you guys are talking about Morales and barrera? come on. Pacquiao actually have not beat a top class fighter at their comfortable weight, only Clottey that he beat and there are rumours about that fight i don't know whether they are true or not but i'm giving Pacquiao credit for that win. look he just had a 2 close fights with bradley. Now there are real figthers out there he can prove himself, why not take Khan, Kell Brook, Thurman etc, why is he deciding to go to 140 to fight lower fighters even at 140? ha? one thing you have to know real boxing experts and true boxing fans know the deal, even though they might talk ish about Floyd, ask yourself why Floyd is being compared to great fighters not Pacquiao then along those lines you will find the answers.
ima pacman fan and what u said is extremely bias, Pacquiao did NOT fight everybody in their prime. Oscar dela hoya was over the hill when he fought em, Shane Mosley didn't even fight back and was over the hill, but other then that, his opposition has been tough.
the funniest thing about the so called Floyd ducked that guy or that guy is that (e.g) when he fought JMM, they were saying why doesn't he fight Mosley? then he fought and beat Mosley and they say Mosley was way past his prime(Mosley with two KOs just before Floyd's fight). Before he fought Judah, they were saying why doesn't he fight Baldomir? then he fought him, now is he should have fought Magarito. Floyd actually never ducked Magarito, Floyd wanted Cotto in 2006 but Arum couldn't give him that fight because Cotto was a better draw than Floyd at the time and instead offered him Magarito but Floyd wanted a guarantee that he was gonna get Cotto after Magarito but Arum refused that, that's why Floyd actually moved to GBP. BTW, Floyd's critics say Floyd like to fight flat footed guys who just come at him and Magarito is that kinda guy, so why would Floyd duck him anyway?
Technically speaking...the "HEAVYWEIGHT" who goes 50-0 will be the one who breaks Marciano's record...period! It does NOT apply to any other weight class! ALI would have done it for sure (they railroaded him...unjustly) Larry Holmes came the closest...he just couldnt resist opening his mouth...talking about rocky couldnt carry his jockstrap...(you see what they did to him) AND IRON MIKE was definitely on his way (but they just watched him do what he did to himself and they rejoiced) BUT ITS THE "HEAVYWEIGHT"...PEOPLE...DONT FORGET THAT..."HEAVYWEIGHT"
I agree with Max, mayweather needs more confident in his skills cuz he could of beating Antonio margarito, shane mosely, Paul Williams, and maybe even Manny in his prime but for some reason he didn't and that's why mayweather receives alot of hate because he is capable of fighting and beating the best in their primes but he doesn't
I'm not going to insult you because you clearly don't know much about the sport of boxing. max has said openly that MANNY AND MOSLEY DUCKED MAYWEATHER in their primes. they wanted no part of him. and in their hearts they know that. do your research bro and don't rely on these *experts* to do it for you. Manny wouldn't take Olympic style drug tests.... cheater. and we all know about mosley and even then..... he just didn't want it.
Mayweather offered pac 40 million to fight and many said he wants more so Mayweather said no! they both new the fight would be in the hundreds of millions so it was not a serious offer and designed to fool Mayweather supporters into thinking he was trying to make a deal? also maywerather has hardly fought anyone who was in their prime? he always has all advantages? one thing is true, do you think Mayweather would have beat pac if pac was as big as Mayweather? take care!
Get real, Pac man was juicing, Floyd knew he was juicing, asked for the tests and pacquiao said no. That was that. Floyd is older than pacquiao if anyone caught anyone out of their prime it was Pac man catching Floyd at almost 40 years old and still COULD NOT do anything to him. He looked like my little brother trying to fight me for the ps4 controller. Imagine if they fought in their primes when Floyd was actually agressive and still with the amazing defence.
Floyd has fought more champions then those boxers. Floyds wins are more significant. Chavez fought a bunch of nobodies to get to 87-0. How many of those fighters were world champions. 2-3 at most.
Why is it Floyd's fault these fights didn't happen earlier? He called out all these guys and koyztsu didn't really want to fight Floyd, Mosley and Cotto didn't want to fight Floyd until after Floyd became a cash cow, Manny turned down 2 fights and Margarito got knocked out. Why would you fight someone who got knocked out? What do you gain for that? But he gives credit to Pacquiao fighting guys after Mayweather at lighter weights.
Max Kellerman is knowledgeable in boxing, but I would argue that there was no winner in the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight because rules were broken before that fight took place...the fight should be rendered null and void. Independent of that, pacquiao won by just using the slow motion version of the fight (even just viewing it at o.5 times the regular speed)...eyes can be wrong many times especially when a punch is so fast!
he should remove the stink of jim Lampley...when he's by himself, he talks REAL SHIT about boxing...when he has his suit and mic, he talks biased HBO bullshit...I agree with all his major points..great piece
i think Max has catarac. because he was at ring side and saw mayweather beat manny. which i think almost three quater of the world saw it the other way.
Floyd picked Pacquiao, as he saw Pacman's KO's have dried up, Pacman's speed is not what it was 5 years ago, and has slowed down because of the many wars he's been in.
Anybody can pad there record ... If mayweather fought 100 bums he would probably have a similar record as Robinson .. Like I said mayweathers beaten more champions in his era and is the longest raining champion in a time when athletes are bigger , stronger and faster , "so okay they fought more" athletes are way better now ... Robinson would not have more then 50 fights in this era... Trust me
Shaud Kelly Put in your head that Robinson would have been bigger, stronger and faster too and could have had more time between his fights and would have had tapes to study his opponents. He would have advantages now that he didn't have back then...
But he wouldn't have more then 50 fights??? Which is truly his fans only argument about him being the greatest... You take that away and you got a great fighter but not the best in this era... Mayweather has still beaten more champions and in my opinion could have beaten Robinson in this era
Shaud Kelly Pure speculation when it comes to the fact that Floyd could have beaten Robinson in this era. He needs to fight a competitive Pacquiao, get hit a lot, and show what he does when he fights a fighter at this level and see how he reacts to it before talking about a fantasy match up with Robinson, who is TBE since he's fought and beat a lot of great fighters IN THEIR PRIME.
Chavez Sr. would smirk if anyone mentions FMJ’s undefeated record. If Jr. tries harder just maybe he’ll get to 60 win which is good honorable mention to ATG SRR & Chavez Sr. boxing record.
To really count the true numbers of winning, you have to ake the loss and minus the winnings. That would be the total count of winning. If a boxer had won 50 times and lost 0 cannot compare to someone who had won 60 time with 5 loss because it is the same as winning 55 times with 0 loss.
Ray Robinson was a 147Ibs pounder and went up and fought the Light Heavyweight lineal Champion, which fighter does that these days?..None, Ray Robinson had a heart of a lion and what is known as the LEGENDARY CHAMPION. Ali, Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Hagler, Louis etc.. are leagues above Mayweather. Floyd cherry picked Canelo, Guerrero and the two Maidana fights were a joke and proves that he's a cherry picker.
+LouiepMusic oscar, diaz, margarito, hatton, cotto, mosley, clotey, etc.? every fighter is bigger than him and he destroys them all! mannys last 22 fights have all been against a world champion or former world champion? who do you want him to fight? also canelo and ggg are middle weights!
You should go and watch some pacquiao fights if you want to learn something, everyone knows he is one of the greatest fighters ever?for fuck sake he is world champion in 10 different weight classes, maybe he just got lucky with that! and also 8 times world champion and fighter of the decade! maybe he just got lucky?
Dude's a straight living boxing encyclopedia.
7:04.. much respect for max for noticing that..
***** yep.. props for floyd for even accepting to fight pac..
zero loss doesn't mean shit if you didn't fight every best fighter in your weight division, Pacquaio FOUGHT EVERYBODY! #dropsthemic
Wow he did fight Everyone
Manny fought Floyd left overs. Lol
You guys are idiots
Stop saying Manny fought everybody he didn't
Facts but ppl will always disagree w you
Pac ddnt fight maidana and canelo stop saying he fought everyone, and most of the guys he fought after floyd beat, and u can't name 1 fighter that manny beat that will beat floyd mayweather, ur can't expect floyd to fight everyone that calls him out they all just wanted the big pay day, when floyd was pretty boy they ddnt want a piece of him .
I find it funny how as soon as a black man catches up to or surpasses Rocky Marciano's BS 49 & 0 record, yes I called it BS because he fought his own brother and he lost fighting under a different name) that all of a sudden they start saying stuff like what Max is saying (Julio Cesar Chavez was 87-0 but they weren't saying this when Marciano had the record even though technically he didn't.
You never heard of anyone challenging Marciano's mythical record (and yes it is definitely a MYTH) and now they're so quick to come out of the closet and challenge Mayweather's record.
Yet Chavez Senior beat 77 BUMS (nobody knows any of his opponents in those 77 or so bouts (maybe even more) without going to BoxRec or Google to figure who it is he beat and what those fighters he beat went on to do in the sport of boxing.
We can see who Floyd beat, more than half of them were Champions and quite a few of them are still in the sport or done well (being Champs) and many of them will end up in the Hall of Fame.
Tell me how many fighters out of those 87 or so that Chavez Sr fought will be in the Hall of Fame without going to Google or BoxRec???
Max is an HBO (Hate Bruthas Only) guy so of course he is here to diminish the accomplishments of Mayweather in any way he can, he's just doing his job as their Slave but even he knows that Floyd surpassing Marciano's garbage record is head and shoulders above anyone in the sport, why else would they make such a big deal about it when it was Marciano if it wasn't but now that Floyd has passed it they're looking for any excuse to keep their object of White Superiority over this sport.
mayweather added 1 win by fighting mcgregor , a boxing nobody and a debutante .
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mayweather fought berto instead of a stronger fighter like amir khan, shawn porter, or timothy bradley just for the sake of an easier win to tie up rocky marciano's record, also for easier money, and more champions defeated.
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mayweather fought a clearly less experienced alvarez (NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY CANELO WAS STILL BUDDING UP) because once canelo gets stronger he will be too tough for him, so beating him before he reach his prime is a smart tactical more to diminish a possible tough fight in the future as he now has an alibi that he already defeated him .
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and you are saying that floyd's 50-0 career is better than marciano's when he himself has obviously cherrypicked his way to 23 champions defeated and 50-0-0?!.
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WORST, YOU HAVE TO PULL UP THE "HE IS HATED CUZ HE'S BLACK" TRUMP CARD ON A BOXING DISCUSSION! THAT IS CALLED REVERSE RACISM! YOU ALLEGED PEOPLE TO BE RACIST MAKING YOU YOURSELF RACIST! THE MOMENT YOU BRING UP SKIN COLOR IN A DISCUSSION THAT IS NOT POLITICAL IS RACIST! YOU CROSSED THE LINE BUDDY!
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YOU ARE BEING RACIST TO ROCKY MARCIANO, TO MAX KELLERMAN, AND TO ANY NON-BLACK PEOPLE WHO BELIEVES THAT FLOYD IS NOT THE TBE . BLACK LIVES MATTER MY ASS!
@@jrcuartz1829 You can't cherrypick 23 champions. It's always some kind of excuse to diminish Mayweather's legacy but you clowns don't apply it to Marciano. Why? Because you don't know shit about him or his resume. He fought mostly bums and he definitely cherry picked older champions. Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Wolcott and Joe Louis were old as f*ck when he fought them. Floyd has beaten more elite hall of fame boxers than champs that Marciano beat. He's nowhere close to Mayweather's legacy. Floyd would still have the best resume of all time even with a few losses. The 50-0 is just a cherry on top 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@AWesker99 ok first of all that 50-0-0 is cherrypicked.
1.) Cherrypicked a past prime pacquiao
2.) Cherrypicked a pre prime canelo
3.) Cherrypicked B fighter berto for 49th win
4.) Cherrypicked boxing debutante mcgregor for 50th win.
5.) Now cherrypicking another boxing nobody paul for 51st win to tie up another win-loss record of 51-0.
Champions sure. You cant cherrypick. You cant even say cherrypicked a weak fighter so still giving props to B champ berto. But to surpass a long held record by winning against an entry level boxer at this point of his career is just shameful. Why not fight crawford or spence? A rematch with the uninjured pacquiao or vastly improved canelo? Why not fight the most dangerous oppositions you could ever face even at advanced age, past prime?
Records are records. Ok sure he got the W on paper even if he lost to castillo and pacquiao. Sure. Paper wins. Sure 22 champions defeated. The current boxing GOAT has 21. But you can nvr deny the fact that he cherrypicked his legacy in the end . He did. You cant deny that. You are a flomosexual if you do. 50th win against mcgregor??? His soon 51st against paul? Shameful.
@@jrcuartz1829 he beat pacquiao and Canelo when he was past prime. True legend.
@@jrcuartz1829 he lost against Castillo 1. Lost against Maidana 1. Lost against Pacquiao. When you think about it, agreeing to fight a youtuber while the people you accused of using PEDs, Pacquiao at that time supposedly should have fought Spence after Crawford deal fell and Canelo the best P4P fighter at the time. That alone is shameful.
Floyd is the best Jr. lightweight ever, had arguments in other weight classes but not in the Greatest Ever. Watch this guy again fighting a high school tiktoker at Dubai
Floyd cannot be compared to Ray Robinson, Ali, Leonard etc..as Floyd didn't fight everybody and anyone, he fights guys who are over the hill, closer to his age, or guys like Canelo who had no business being in the ring with Floyd as his resume was very poor ( Rhodes, Hatton, Lopez etc..) coming into the bout and the Trout fight was very controversial. Pacman reminds Ali of himself as he fought everyone and anyone which is not surprising Ali is picking Pacquiao to win.
Nabz mo Do you know who was fighting when Ray Robinson was fighting? Do you know that all the fights he has was against the best out? I dont. Im not old enough to know. I suspect you dont know either and have just been told he was the best fighter. Ive seen tape. I cant say he was the best cause thats not my era. I have no clue who he was fighting in the fights i saw and if someone else was "calling him out" at the time.
J Johnson Are you comparing Mayweather to Ray Robinson? HAHAHHAAH, Floyd has cherry picked fighters to suit his style, you ever think Floyd will pick a slick boxer that won't come forward? Floyd likes that relentless pressure which Floyd likes because he's a counter puncher. The two Maidana fights said everything I needed to know, the guy is a cherry picker and a fraud. I know Floyd will pick off Pacman and cruse to a victory, Pacman doesn't have the boxing skills or the smarts to deal with Floyd.
Nabz mo What I am saying is that I was not around for Ray Robinson's career and I don't think you were either. I was pointing out your initial post sounded as if you were there and it was first hand knowledge. All in all you were told he was the best and that's why you hold that opinion. My observation was simply that there are a lot of fight fans that hold beliefs that are not their own and can only be supported by what someone told them and not what they saw. Never saw live fights of Ray Robinson so I cant objectively come to an opinion. I think most people, such as yourself, should adopt that same philosophy and speak about what you know and not what you heard or was told.
J Johnson Fair comment, can't disagree, but what I can say fighting over a 100 pro fights and fights being 15 rounders says a lot.
Nabz mo everyone wanted him to fight canelo so get outta here with that lol
Maz Kellerman nails it.
He's a floyd hater!!!!!! All the fighters he's talking about NEVER EVER beat the caliber of fighters floyd beat! Not even sugar Ray Robinson, who did he fight to get 130 wins.. Joe Louis fought bums and so did Ray Robinson
Ur right and he ends by saying Pacquiao fought every body, well he ddnt fight maidana and canelo, and most of the guys he fought them after floyd already beat them...
The most egregious example of a top-flight boxer ducking a worthy challenger happened more than six decades ago, when the one and only Sugar Ray Robinson somehow managed to avoid fighting a contender named Charley Burley.
Robinson wasn't alone in wanting no part of Burley. Marcel Cerdan and Jake LaMotta, middleweights like Robinson, as well as Billy Conn, the Pittsburgh light heavyweight who came within six minutes of dethroning Joe Louis, also found ways to cross to the other side of the street when they saw Burley coming.
And it was no surprise. No less an authority than Eddie Futch, who trained four of the five men who beat Muhammad Ali, called Burley "the greatest fighter I have ever seen.
- Wallace Matthews, ESPNNewYork
Funny how people keep speaking on eras they werent around to watch. You guys have no idea who your beloved fighters "ducked" while you are saying they are the best.
Kellerman is absolutely correct pacquiao is the greatest fighter of all time ,three time fighter of the Year ,fighter of the decade,eight time belt holder,and icon in the world, you tell me who is better than that!!!! The truth sayer
Abdon Santella but lost to mayweather & got KO’ed 😂
Dude is certainly passionate about his boxing. I can respect that.
exactly, pacman fought everybody. Floyd didn;t in their primes. dodged for money. his record is padded therefore, and wont go down as all great as a result.
Owen fox - Living an Inspired, Empowered & Enlivened LIFE!! everybody like who?
Owen fox - Living an Inspired, Empowered & Enlivened LIFE!! Alot of the fighters Manny fought, Floyd fought first, when they were younger, except for Marquez & Cotto. He fought Hatton Before, De La Hoya, Mosley. Manny did fight Cotto three years earlier than Floyd. Yes Floyd does pick and choose his fights sometimes, but when you are undefeated and have to power to do so, who wouldn't. I am a Manny fan, but you have to respect Floyd.
Zaheer Inshan sure. if u pick cause undefeated fine, biut it affects your legacy.
Owen fox - Conscious, Healthy, Happy Living I wonder who are these fighters you are talking about when you say Pacquiao fought everybody. There's literally no fighter that should be compared to Floyd because Floyd started fighting world class fighters at age of nineteen and you telling me about Pacquiao a guy that started fighting top fighters around his 30+ fight. Pacquiao fought great fighters when they should have retired already. Who are these fighters you guys are talking about Morales and barrera? come on. Pacquiao actually have not beat a top class fighter at their comfortable weight, only Clottey that he beat and there are rumours about that fight i don't know whether they are true or not but i'm giving Pacquiao credit for that win. look he just had a 2 close fights with bradley. Now there are real figthers out there he can prove himself, why not take Khan, Kell Brook, Thurman etc, why is he deciding to go to 140 to fight lower fighters even at 140? ha? one thing you have to know real boxing experts and true boxing fans know the deal, even though they might talk ish about Floyd, ask yourself why Floyd is being compared to great fighters not Pacquiao then along those lines you will find the answers.
ima pacman fan and what u said is extremely bias, Pacquiao did NOT fight everybody in their prime. Oscar dela hoya was over the hill when he fought em, Shane Mosley didn't even fight back and was over the hill, but other then that, his opposition has been tough.
You got Khan, Lara and GGG waiting in the wings and he plucks out a faded Pacquiao who is clearly not what he was 5 years ago.
Manny weight drained half the fighters..floyd beat Oscar n canelo at 154 Manny made Oscar n cotto drop to 147 weight draining everyone
5:32 Kellerman looking like the joker here.
pac man vs edwin valero i would have loved to see that!
Fucking knows his shit 😂
Then Chavez senior holds the record for undefeated without a loss no?
Sugar Ray Robinson
the funniest thing about the so called Floyd ducked that guy or that guy is that (e.g) when he fought JMM, they were saying why doesn't he fight Mosley? then he fought and beat Mosley and they say Mosley was way past his prime(Mosley with two KOs just before Floyd's fight). Before he fought Judah, they were saying why doesn't he fight Baldomir? then he fought him, now is he should have fought Magarito. Floyd actually never ducked Magarito, Floyd wanted Cotto in 2006 but Arum couldn't give him that fight because Cotto was a better draw than Floyd at the time and instead offered him Magarito but Floyd wanted a guarantee that he was gonna get Cotto after Magarito but Arum refused that, that's why Floyd actually moved to GBP. BTW, Floyd's critics say Floyd like to fight flat footed guys who just come at him and Magarito is that kinda guy, so why would Floyd duck him anyway?
Max, after knowing all facts, situations, bias circumstances, violations, etc., do you honestly believe that the Pacquiao-Mayweather is a fair fight
Technically speaking...the "HEAVYWEIGHT" who goes 50-0 will be the one who breaks Marciano's record...period! It does NOT apply to any other weight class! ALI would have done it for sure (they railroaded him...unjustly) Larry Holmes came the closest...he just couldnt resist opening his mouth...talking about rocky couldnt carry his jockstrap...(you see what they did to him) AND IRON MIKE was definitely on his way (but they just watched him do what he did to himself and they rejoiced) BUT ITS THE "HEAVYWEIGHT"...PEOPLE...DONT FORGET THAT..."HEAVYWEIGHT"
I agree with Max, mayweather needs more confident in his skills cuz he could of beating Antonio margarito, shane mosely, Paul Williams, and maybe even Manny in his prime but for some reason he didn't and that's why mayweather receives alot of hate because he is capable of fighting and beating the best in their primes but he doesn't
I'm not going to insult you because you clearly don't know much about the sport of boxing. max has said openly that MANNY AND MOSLEY DUCKED MAYWEATHER in their primes. they wanted no part of him. and in their hearts they know that. do your research bro and don't rely on these *experts* to do it for you. Manny wouldn't take Olympic style drug tests.... cheater. and we all know about mosley and even then..... he just didn't want it.
Mayweather offered pac 40 million to fight and many said he wants more so Mayweather said no! they both new the fight would be in the hundreds of millions so it was not a serious offer and designed to fool Mayweather supporters into thinking he was trying to make a deal? also maywerather has hardly fought anyone who was in their prime? he always has all advantages? one thing is true, do you think Mayweather would have beat pac if pac was as big as Mayweather? take care!
Get real, Pac man was juicing, Floyd knew he was juicing, asked for the tests and pacquiao said no. That was that. Floyd is older than pacquiao if anyone caught anyone out of their prime it was Pac man catching Floyd at almost 40 years old and still COULD NOT do anything to him. He looked like my little brother trying to fight me for the ps4 controller. Imagine if they fought in their primes when Floyd was actually agressive and still with the amazing defence.
Kobe mac - A lot of guys ducked Floyd and Manny was one of them and don't forget Oscar. Floyd call him out for 10 years
Golovkin is ducking Wlad.
Floyd has fought more champions then those boxers. Floyds wins are more significant. Chavez fought a bunch of nobodies to get to 87-0. How many of those fighters were world champions. 2-3 at most.
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A nice “fuck you” to Mayweather by Max.
and willy pep got up to 68 before geting a loss .
Why is it Floyd's fault these fights didn't happen earlier? He called out all these guys and koyztsu didn't really want to fight Floyd, Mosley and Cotto didn't want to fight Floyd until after Floyd became a cash cow, Manny turned down 2 fights and Margarito got knocked out. Why would you fight someone who got knocked out? What do you gain for that? But he gives credit to Pacquiao fighting guys after Mayweather at lighter weights.
Max Kellerman is knowledgeable in boxing, but I would argue that there was no winner in the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight because rules were broken before that fight took place...the fight should be rendered null and void. Independent of that, pacquiao won by just using the slow motion version of the fight (even just viewing it at o.5 times the regular speed)...eyes can be wrong many times especially when a punch is so fast!
Stop with the slow mo Bullshit your hurting Manny's legacy with this kind of crap. No one Judges a fight in slow mo
Fight hype seems so inconsistent with there knowledge when he interviews
Mayweathe was way too quik for pac man he was like súper sonic
he should remove the stink of jim Lampley...when he's by himself, he talks REAL SHIT about boxing...when he has his suit and mic, he talks biased HBO bullshit...I agree with all his major points..great piece
they ended up never doing it again......
i think Max has catarac. because he was at ring side and saw mayweather beat manny. which i think almost three quater of the world saw it the other way.
Floyd picked Pacquiao, as he saw Pacman's KO's have dried up, Pacman's speed is not what it was 5 years ago, and has slowed down because of the many wars he's been in.
Nabz mo When was the last time Pac was in a War?
@@JJohnson313 aren't u watching his fights during his prime? lol... i pity you..
batmanstriker 1998 Man I don’t know what you’re talking about. This comment was from 3 years ago.
Pacman vs Canelo!
Anybody can pad there record ... If mayweather fought 100 bums he would probably have a similar record as Robinson .. Like I said mayweathers beaten more champions in his era and is the longest raining champion in a time when athletes are bigger , stronger and faster , "so okay they fought more" athletes are way better now ... Robinson would not have more then 50 fights in this era... Trust me
Shaud Kelly Put in your head that Robinson would have been bigger, stronger and faster too and could have had more time between his fights and would have had tapes to study his opponents. He would have advantages now that he didn't have back then...
But he wouldn't have more then 50 fights??? Which is truly his fans only argument about him being the greatest... You take that away and you got a great fighter but not the best in this era... Mayweather has still beaten more champions and in my opinion could have beaten Robinson in this era
Shaud Kelly Pure speculation when it comes to the fact that Floyd could have beaten Robinson in this era. He needs to fight a competitive Pacquiao, get hit a lot, and show what he does when he fights a fighter at this level and see how he reacts to it before talking about a fantasy match up with Robinson, who is TBE since he's fought and beat a lot of great fighters IN THEIR PRIME.
Name the all greats he beat other then... Jake Lamotta???
Shaud Kelly Boxrec my friend. If you cannot name anyone else than Lamotta, please never put Floyd in the same sentence than SRR ever again. ;)
Yup that's all I needed to hear PAC fought everybody
Chavez Sr. would smirk if anyone mentions FMJ’s undefeated record. If Jr. tries harder just maybe he’ll get to 60 win which is good honorable mention to ATG SRR & Chavez Sr. boxing record.
bengene bernardo Chavez fought bums from Mexico 😂
Mayweather is the greatest face it
You are biased max
Sometimes
Explain this to your buddy Steven A. Smith.
Calzaghe 49-0
44-0
Canelo was 43 and 0 when he fought Floyd and everyone said he was to young and had no experience
To really count the true numbers of winning, you have to ake the loss and minus the winnings. That would be the total count of winning. If a boxer had won 50 times and lost 0 cannot compare to someone who had won 60 time with 5 loss because it is the same as winning 55 times with 0 loss.
Phuab Tsab channel nope
You tried it tho
Tell'em like it is Max, Pacquiao fought everyone -NEVER DUCKED ANYONE like this so called TBE - LOL!!!!
Ray Robinson was a 147Ibs pounder and went up and fought the Light Heavyweight lineal Champion, which fighter does that these days?..None, Ray Robinson had a heart of a lion and what is known as the LEGENDARY CHAMPION. Ali, Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Hagler, Louis etc.. are leagues above Mayweather. Floyd cherry picked Canelo, Guerrero and the two Maidana fights were a joke and proves that he's a cherry picker.
Pacquiao fought everybody lol Canelo? Khan? Maidana? Thurman? GGG? lol stop it lol Marquez 4 times Bradley twice, bum ass Rios bum ass Algiri lmaoo
+LouiepMusic oscar, diaz, margarito, hatton, cotto, mosley, clotey, etc.?
every fighter is bigger than him and he destroys them all! mannys last 22 fights have all been against a world champion or former world champion? who do you want him to fight? also canelo and ggg are middle weights!
You are as thick as fuck shows you know fuck all about boxing no do one and fuck off
You should go and watch some pacquiao fights if you want to learn something, everyone knows he is one of the greatest fighters ever?for fuck sake he is world champion in 10 different weight classes, maybe he just got lucky with that! and also 8 times world champion and fighter of the decade! maybe he just got lucky?
LouiepTv shut up dumbass u don’t know shit about boxing... Manny Pacquiao going up to middle weight to fight triple g? Shut up clown
Floyd fight is boring nobody's going to miss him when he retired.