MAX KELLERMAN GETS DEEP ON THE PREFERENCES VS. THE REALITY OF FANS AND MEDIA IN BOXING
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- "I remember at the time, the big question was, who's better, Floyd or Shane? A lot of people said Shane because they were trying to impose their subjective preferences in terms of style of fight on the objective reality of who's better...put your money on the blue chip guy," stated HBO commentator Max Kellerman, who got deep on the preferences versus the reality of fans and media in the sport of boxing. Check it out!
Max is brilliant. The subjective preference versus objective reality argument applies to many things outside the boxing/sports landscape as well. It happens all the time.
Kellerman is better when not on HBO
+Divine Milk he doesnt have jim lampley staring at him
This guy knows his shit. He's probably a little biased on HBO because of the company's interest.
its because he is not getting punked by lampley
max is being a little too honest for the floyd haters.
love the max kellerman interviews, great job fighthype!!
I miss Max and Brian Kenny on ESPN.
you want to change boxing, that's easy. drug test everyone stop allowing people to duck mandatories, make the fighters fight the weight on fight night for the division their fighting for and get rid of so many bullshit belts. there you go
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Sounds good, too bad none of that is happening tho 😂
yup
+Russ Hawkins You can't... you know why because you have the WBO, WBA, WBC, IBF, NABO and they are all regulated differently
+R Haggins exactly... It's either that or have a fuckin Dana White running shit.. Na Im happy the way we are now
Max Kellerman is a walking encyclopedia of boxing. I can only hope he chooses to bless us with a book, documentary, lecture, speech, spoken word album, serious boxing analysis radio show speaking that real talk.
Man this guy here, he knows quite a bit, he's been around that boxing world...great video! I love HBO commentators, they are great, I've heard others and others suck.
Oh Max c'mon, you're speaking with too much reason. We're living in the days where saying something others don't like is racist. Don't you know that establishing preference is racist! Get with the program, jeesh. ;)
Nope, saying something someone doesn't like is just saying something someone doesn't like, Racism is racism and everyone knows the difference. Cut the shit
this is the max kellerman i was hoping to see when he joined HBO crew...
Great points Max!
Yeah. They should give penalties for excessive clinching and they should impose it in every fight, without bias. It's a sport I get it but I didn't pay for excessive hugging and pitpat punches. Yeah good idea.. Change the rules so that no one in the sport of boxing gets a paycheck without putting in work. Work as in 'fighting'.
awesome breakdown, loved it!!!
And Max just explained the different between TBE and GOAT I was explaining to a joker just a minute ago. Good work FightHype.
Nice MAX!
Gotta love Max...intelligent commentary and boxing perspective is always enjoyable....put me in the change the rules camp...constant clinching makes for a terrible fan experience...
gained a lot of respect for kellerman's perspective here. he still takes himself too seriously for someone who has never "been the man in the arena," but at least he makes strong points and is clearly a boxing historian.
Man I could hear this guy talk boxing all day.
I like the fact that Max gave these non-network interviewers his time, and I think he makes a number of good points. I do think there are a couple basic questions/points that he unconsciously skates over -- e.g. what exactly does/should define who the "better" boxer is; and this relates directly to his use of the concepts of "objective" and "subjective". Based upon what criteria? Clearly it is more (or should be more) than simply one's win/loss record. Obviously one must consider the level of competition, and (IMHO) the manner in which the fighter won. Floyd was superlatively talented, without question. But his legacy is mainly that of "The Great Outpointer". Yes, he won. Sometimes in superb fashion (cf. against Diego Corrales), but more often in a risk-adverse, safety-first manner. Fighters like Mosley, Hearns, Hagler, Duran, and even Leonard were something else altogether. I'm just saying that the situation is more complicated than Kellerman realizes and represents here.
max Kellerman gives the best most fucking insightful interviews. Great analyst because everytime I listen ho his opinions on the world of boxing, I feel like my boxing iq escalates
that clinch DQ rule sounds LEGIT AS FUCK. Please Please Please implement that!
I think Max is an amazing analyst.. always love this guy.. since day one.. on ESPN FNF
Max Kellerman going Sigmund Freud on sports.
What was the question? I sense he's been practising these: "answers to everything in private" lol
Change rules to eliminate or minimize clinching and fighters like Floyd who rely on pure boxing skills might not be as famous or favored as they are? Hmm, idk
well fuck the sport is called BOXING not slugfest fucck ass nigga
+TrappinOutDaBando1017 Did you even understand what you read?? Lol haha
Latino America yeah it sounds like your hating on mayweather
+TrappinOutDaBando1017 Wrong you should make it a habit of asking first before you open your mouth and sound like an ignorant dumb ass
well some refs allow it and some dont.. but a talent like floyd would always find a way to win.
Great video
Well well said.
FINALLY HE SPOKE TRUTH
Good shit, him and Roy are the only ones on HBO that know anything bout boxing
+CuTThRoaTT G Paulie Malignaggi, and "Sugar" Ray Leonard as well
the colombian soccer player is James Rodriguez
+Angel Luis Trinidad oh is he?! then i misunderstood. nevertheless soccer isnt a boring sport ;-)
Straight fuckin facts Max
i believe holding in boxing is technically illegal they just don't enforce it like they should
Football (Soccer) DOES change it's rules all the time and to say American Football is more entertaining is bullshit. You have to grow up with American Football to like it (lie I did). The only people who like American Football are Americans, yet MOST countries like Football (Soccer), I think that tells you something.
But finally, it's about entertainment. People pay for sports to be ENTERTAINED. Boxing has no PURPOSE: no contribution to civilization. Simply to provide excitement and entertainment. He's right about "the rules," but still...winning has to do with
I don't always agree with Max Kellerman but he's not wrong when he's right lol!
Usually agree with max until what he said about soccer. Haha really? Not hating but where do u hear soccer is boring? Number 1 sport worldwide. and ESPECIALLY when he compared it to American football. REALLY? Lmao they stop like every 5 seconds, is that fun to watch
Kellermen is the P4P rambler of all time (ง ͠° ͟ل͜ ͡°)ง
best fights will be at 140 and below more interesting fights
The next man is inoue
Hardly anyone wants to pay and see jabs, clinch, and running around. The Rigo fight on the undercard of Cotto-Alvarez is one great example, he connected 28? for 10 rds and won on UD. Effective boxing? At some point you have to mix in some sort of fighting in there. Max comparing boxing to football, bleh! In football you don't need judges to win. Try dancing.. do you think a boring routine wins?
have yall ever seen max kellerman rap video?
+idm4christ that shit slaps >?
I have look at this goof bringerofrain he doesn't know max started off as a rapper and they play it on his radio show
BringerOfRain Boxing huh?
jtonneck lol i just think its funny. his rap style is the style and era i grew up listening to . i think he was a rich smart kid though. kellerman kinda gets on my nerves but he has a very unbiased opinion i can respect.
they give away tickets for Wards fights wtf you talking about Max
How would the coming elections in November 2016 be different if instead of doing boxing commentary, Max Kellerman used the same analytical approach to covering politics?
deep
Floyd was and is the BEST
Soccer is not boring
I wanted mosely to be better than Mayweather and pacquaio cause he was the better draw
lol he's kinda going at slick fighter tho
strange how all of this can be applied to pro wrestling among other things
oh yeah sorry contradicted yourself way to may times for what reason?
+Deputy Music UK many*
wtfk peeps, HBO has nuthing to do with his opinion, HBO has stepped back from Pac amid his ignorant comments on gays..the whole promotion was obvious, for fks sakes there wasn't even a 24/7..
i miss shane mosley
because Floyd isn't likeable . I like him in a personal way . Not as a nut hugging fanboy like all you homies out there
Gonzalez, GGG, Kovalev, Pacquiao, and Klitschko are the best.
😂😂😂😂😂 HBO zombie
Max Is right they need to do something about holding.
+saanahla nothing wrong with his opinion.. he like brawlers.
JRLM I like Canelo, Porter, and Bradley also.
+hawkermustang lomachenko and thurman?
Mayweather is better than pacquiao he beat him but he had to beat pacquiao to prove he was the best
Max hate to break it to you but you need a vacation. You had your chance to speak up and you didn't. I am not the biggest soccer fan, but half the world enjoys soccer more than boxing. You are saying they are all wrong? Excessive clinching is illegal just like injecting 750ml of IVs. Lance Armstrong is not a cheater by your logic. Way to look like a tool.
how can Kellerman say soccer is boring? NFL is the most boring shit ever...Soccer is the most exciting sport other then boxing..ever watched the EPL Max?
Lmfao. I'm sorry to hear you lack the intelligence to realize how much more intense the NFL is in virtually all facets
QuestionableIdentity hahahaha bro NFL is intense for about 20 seconds of the 4th quarter if you are lucky.
Go watch another scoreless tie
QuestionableIdentity what do you mean?. im from the UK.
You can't blame Max soccer didn't really blow up in America until the Ronaldo vs Messi era
In the bright unhealthy-looking light he looks like Jon Stewart
Going round in circles you lad!! Waste of interview air time x
He might get fired from HBO if he continues to speak the truth.
mosley was better in his prime, floyd did what he does he waited till shane wasn't in his prime anymore to fight him.