I have a para 3LW in BD1N and SPY27, It is my normal use EDC. Had issues with BD1N rolling. No issues with SPY27 rolling. This is under what I would consider normal knife use, not abused.
This steel grows on you. I have put a few edges on my Para3 just to see if performance increases. I think it sharpens like a lot like 14c28n. So far I haven’t seen any real improvements but I want to do a few more edges. Great video as always!
I regularly pick up my SPY27 para3 over my BD1N and S30V para3s. I love my BD1N but SPY27 just has more edge retention and still strops just as well. My original experience I said it was like XHP and BD1N had a baby I knew after your 30 days of you would change your mind.
SPY27 will roll long before it chips.. Sal said the whole point was ease of knife maintenance & bringing the blade back to "working sharp" with a simple strop job.
@@rwstubbz I understand completely. I'm more passionate about the Para3LW than the Spy27. Gerald's insights either inspire me to buy or warn me to stay away.
Just ordered this one. Based on what i'm reading, i think i'll be putting a convex edge on it out of the box rather than waiting until it needs sharpening.
I use a 20 degree setting on a ceramic Crock Stick. Would this steel respond well to that? I currently use TOPS 1095, Spyderco VG-10 and Spyderco BD-1 steels on that system and have great results.
I haven't tried but I wouldn't think it'd be a problem, ive used shapton glass and venev stones in different sessions, it takes a fine edge really easily.
Impressive Gerald, geat vid as always. Will be looking forward to the impact results. I'd really like to know you top 5 steels and why they are so. Thank you for the effort put into every video my friend.👍😊
Which do you like better, the spyderco manix 2 spy27 or kershaw link 20cv? I just sold my link for 45$ and bought the manix 2 for 85$ at a pawn shop. I really liked the kershaw link 20cv it was easy to sharpen and stayed sharp for a long time however the manix 2 was dull and took me a long time to sharpen. i always wanted a good spyderco in k390 but settled for this knife. I will most likely buy another kershaw link 20cv and have both knives. I want to buy 1 to 2 knives a month that are good.
Stick with the manix and get yourself some good sharpening supplies (the dmt magnaguide system is solid, all of Worksharp’s products are excellent). 20cv is a great steel as far as edge retention goes, but can be tedious to sharpen. SPY27 is an all-around great steel that’s excellent for people new to sharpening. If given the choice, I’d carry the manix lw. It’s an excellent design. I picked up one up over a year ago and it’s performed flawless so far.
@@godforever27 if you are having a tough time sharpening, watch some videos on sharpening advice. Specifically - using a sharpie to color the edge to see where your sharpener is hitting. Set the sharpener to 20 degrees per side and focus on being consistent with the strokes of the diamond plates, making sure you aren’t putting too much pressure on the sharpener.
Thank you G. It is pretty good stuff. Mine has been in my heavy rotation lately, and I just cleaned it up tonight to put it away in the case for a while. Plus, I really love the color of this one as well. : - )
Where do you get the basswood from? I've always wanted to try that or balsa but didn't know if the quality makes a difference. Thanks for the update, I'll have to give spy27 a shot
Pretty awesome it changed your mind a bit. Be interesting to see the Rockwell on it. Also interesting to see if the start moving that to standard issue if its a better performer and creates more value for the end user. Cheers!
I have asked this a few places what would you choose: manix 2, sage 5 lw, para 3 or mini griptilian? Edc use but want something fun and also sturdy need for a little tougher things at times.
Other than the sage, those are about as different as they come. I have all of them except the sage 5, but I have one of those on the way. Manix 2 is gonna be the toughest, and also could be the most "fun" depending on what makes a knife fun to you. Mini grip is quite a bit smaller than the rest. Much smaller than the "on paper" numbers may lead you to believe. My hands are too big to have done any significant testing with mine, but the full size griptilian is likely to fit everything you're looking for, so I assume the mini would too as long as you like small knives. The para 3 is a great knife. It's small in pocket, and on paper, but it's always been big enough to do everything I've ever needed a folding knife to do. Para 3 also has the most steel options available. I have a sage 5 on the way, but it's the Ti Maxamet one, so I can't speak to the sage 5 lw at all. If I had to choose ONE out of the ones you listed that I've used, it would definitely be the manix 2. You won't go wrong by picking any of them, though.
Yes, different steels feel different at the same points of use or think of it as different apex degradation in how the break down occurs. Like S110V for example, feels dull.to the touch relatively quickly but cuts for an extended time after that point. I'm going to cover this in a video about wear resistance.
Every knife related video I watch is preceded by the Evatac knife commercial. It must be pretty bad if they offer it for free and all you pay is shipping. It’s still profitable, what does that tell you. I always wonder what kind of fools order that piece of junk.
Color me NOT a fan. I've recently been cutting up LOTS of cardboard. As in constant cutting for multiple hours at a time. I've used a bunch of different brands, steels, factory and my edges. Despite my best efforts and even with stropping in between s27 just couldn't come close to my s30v with similar blade profiles. Not even in the same ballpark. Its like a minor leaguer going against the majors.
I HATE FRN HANDLES 😆 for 100+ I better get g10 or a nice metal. Lightweight models should be 65-75 price point. No way I could spend that much on that knife.
Pricing breaks down differently than that, labor or time to manufacture and distribute is the majority of the cost. Some materials like certain steels,Maxamet, K390, Vancron Superclean, etc are also a part of the cost. Handle materials are a very small portion of that overall price.
I have a para 3LW in BD1N and SPY27, It is my normal use EDC. Had issues with BD1N rolling. No issues with SPY27 rolling. This is under what I would consider normal knife use, not abused.
Like the look of that SPY27. Look forward to the 3way comparison with BD1N & S30v.
The 3 steel toughness test would be super appreciated. Thank your sir.
Hey, thank you for your input! I have the bd1n version with the black blade and carry it everyday!! Love it man!!
They need to make this same knife in k390
Interesting results for spy27. Looking forward to the comparison and the hard use video. Thanks for sharing brother!!👊👊
You're welcome and it will be coming soon.
This steel grows on you. I have put a few edges on my Para3 just to see if performance increases. I think it sharpens like a lot like 14c28n. So far I haven’t seen any real improvements but I want to do a few more edges. Great video as always!
I regularly pick up my SPY27 para3 over my BD1N and S30V para3s. I love my BD1N but SPY27 just has more edge retention and still strops just as well. My original experience I said it was like XHP and BD1N had a baby I knew after your 30 days of you would change your mind.
I'm still surprised how well it comes back on a strop.
Do you find the spy27 to be chippy at all?
@@ninemimesleft I had no issues with SPY27 chipping at all.
SPY27 will roll long before it chips.. Sal said the whole point was ease of knife maintenance & bringing the blade back to "working sharp" with a simple strop job.
Another great vid from OP76. Love me some basswood strop. Just got my SPY27 Para3 LW. Nice combo.
I love mine, but had an issue with Spyderco warranty and I'm a little bit anxious to really put it to "hard" use.
@@rwstubbz I understand completely. I'm more passionate about the Para3LW than the Spy27. Gerald's insights either inspire me to buy or warn me to stay away.
Its been a great user steel for me too. I might pick up a p3 eventually. Thanks for the knowledge g.
OK, you got me interested in this steel. Figured to buy another Manix so guess the next will be Spy 27. I kinda like the scale color so that's a plus.
I really like SPY27, I may talk about it again in a video. I've been using it a lot the past few months again and it's really grown on me even more.
Just ordered this one. Based on what i'm reading, i think i'll be putting a convex edge on it out of the box rather than waiting until it needs sharpening.
My is extremely sharp and stropping very well.Much better than s35vn and s30v for sure.
Spy27 is a enhanced version of VG 10 it gets better with time.
Sounds like all the Sandwick steel. Don't feel sharp but it is sharp. I hate that about it too.
Interesting results, thanks for the update, might have to try this steel out
I'm enjoying it
Thank you for a real world demo and explanation.
You're welcome
That's impressive, 30 seconds strops 5 weeks worth of work back to a working edge.
Thanks for the info.
You're welcome
Thanks for the video 😎👍
You're welcome
Wonder how it compares to s45vn
I had a chipping/rolling issue with bd1 and with vg10 not as much. Is spy 27 similar to those? What steel would you say is the most similar to spy 27
I wanted to like this, but at 74 yrs old, didn't want to spend months breaking the Blade release in, sent it back.
I use a 20 degree setting on a ceramic Crock Stick. Would this steel respond well to that? I currently use TOPS 1095, Spyderco VG-10 and Spyderco BD-1 steels on that system and have great results.
I haven't tried but I wouldn't think it'd be a problem, ive used shapton glass and venev stones in different sessions, it takes a fine edge really easily.
Impressive Gerald, geat vid as always. Will be looking forward to the impact results. I'd really like to know you top 5 steels and why they are so. Thank you for the effort put into every video my friend.👍😊
Thank you and you're welcome. Maybe I'll do a video about what my top 5 steels would be.
@@Outpost_76 please do👍👌👏👍😁
Which do you like better, the spyderco manix 2 spy27 or kershaw link 20cv? I just sold my link for 45$ and bought the manix 2 for 85$ at a pawn shop. I really liked the kershaw link 20cv it was easy to sharpen and stayed sharp for a long time however the manix 2 was dull and took me a long time to sharpen. i always wanted a good spyderco in k390 but settled for this knife. I will most likely buy another kershaw link 20cv and have both knives. I want to buy 1 to 2 knives a month that are good.
Stick with the manix and get yourself some good sharpening supplies (the dmt magnaguide system is solid, all of Worksharp’s products are excellent).
20cv is a great steel as far as edge retention goes, but can be tedious to sharpen. SPY27 is an all-around great steel that’s excellent for people new to sharpening.
If given the choice, I’d carry the manix lw. It’s an excellent design. I picked up one up over a year ago and it’s performed flawless so far.
@@just9911 that's the knife sharpener I use. I have precision adjust elite
@@godforever27 if you are having a tough time sharpening, watch some videos on sharpening advice. Specifically - using a sharpie to color the edge to see where your sharpener is hitting. Set the sharpener to 20 degrees per side and focus on being consistent with the strokes of the diamond plates, making sure you aren’t putting too much pressure on the sharpener.
Thank you G.
It is pretty good stuff. Mine has been in my heavy rotation lately, and I just cleaned it up tonight to put it away in the case for a while.
Plus, I really love the color of this one as well.
: - )
I called mine at 5 weeks so I could move on to the K390 Endura. The color grew on me as well.
Where do you get the basswood from? I've always wanted to try that or balsa but didn't know if the quality makes a difference. Thanks for the update, I'll have to give spy27 a shot
Can order it for cheap from hobby lobby
I get mine at Hobby Lobby as well. Its under 5$ for a piece big enough to make 6 strops 3 x 6 inches.
@@Outpost_76 thanks for the info guys. Appreciate it
@@jonr1510 just pick a thickness that won't flex on you like 1/4 inch or so.
Pretty awesome it changed your mind a bit. Be interesting to see the Rockwell on it. Also interesting to see if the start moving that to standard issue if its a better performer and creates more value for the end user. Cheers!
I have asked this a few places what would you choose: manix 2, sage 5 lw, para 3 or mini griptilian? Edc use but want something fun and also sturdy need for a little tougher things at times.
Other than the sage, those are about as different as they come. I have all of them except the sage 5, but I have one of those on the way.
Manix 2 is gonna be the toughest, and also could be the most "fun" depending on what makes a knife fun to you.
Mini grip is quite a bit smaller than the rest. Much smaller than the "on paper" numbers may lead you to believe. My hands are too big to have done any significant testing with mine, but the full size griptilian is likely to fit everything you're looking for, so I assume the mini would too as long as you like small knives.
The para 3 is a great knife. It's small in pocket, and on paper, but it's always been big enough to do everything I've ever needed a folding knife to do. Para 3 also has the most steel options available.
I have a sage 5 on the way, but it's the Ti Maxamet one, so I can't speak to the sage 5 lw at all.
If I had to choose ONE out of the ones you listed that I've used, it would definitely be the manix 2. You won't go wrong by picking any of them, though.
Eyewear just for your info the maxamet sage is a sage1, they are numbered as each number has a different lock.
Which steel do you prefer every day?
K390, Spy27, or Rex45?
I'm curious about your opinion
It would be close between K390 and Cruwear.
Have you tried gunny juice yet? I have yet to pick some up but seems all the rage right now
I haven't tried any yet
@@Outpost_76 you should check into it seems like an amazing product I've been watching it for awhile I need to try some myself
Educate me brotha, what do you mean feels dull but shaves hair? Different steel edges have different apex feelings?
Yes, different steels feel different at the same points of use or think of it as different apex degradation in how the break down occurs. Like S110V for example, feels dull.to the touch relatively quickly but cuts for an extended time after that point. I'm going to cover this in a video about wear resistance.
Every knife related video I watch is preceded by the Evatac knife commercial. It must be pretty bad if they offer it for free and all you pay is shipping. It’s still profitable, what does that tell you. I always wonder what kind of fools order that piece of junk.
I looked just to see what the fee was for " free ". 14.95 for that God awful thing.
Are those scales replaceable
Not unless you drill the rivets out and do a screw conversion .
@@Outpost_76 oh thats a shame, It'd be so nice if you didn't have to do that. Thanks for the reply.
Color me NOT a fan. I've recently been cutting up LOTS of cardboard. As in constant cutting for multiple hours at a time. I've used a bunch of different brands, steels, factory and my edges. Despite my best efforts and even with stropping in between s27 just couldn't come close to my s30v with similar blade profiles. Not even in the same ballpark. Its like a minor leaguer going against the majors.
I HATE FRN HANDLES 😆 for 100+ I better get g10 or a nice metal. Lightweight models should be 65-75 price point. No way I could spend that much on that knife.
Pricing breaks down differently than that, labor or time to manufacture and distribute is the majority of the cost. Some materials like certain steels,Maxamet, K390, Vancron Superclean, etc are also a part of the cost. Handle materials are a very small portion of that overall price.
Whether you know it or not, you sell a lot of knives.
I never thought about it that way.
@@Outpost_76 It's no coincidence that a lot of my purchase history happen to be the knives that impressed you on this channel.
Spy27 is for sure better than s30 not as good as s45 tho