From what ive been told, they were raised in isolation and was not exposed to much popular music and never had a lesson on any of their instruments. They had NOTHING to go on.
Yep, that is the(ir) story! … and that is why the producer ultimatively did a good job, me thinks! He captured raw, uneducated but honest human expression w\o touching it and bending it in any direction! Plus: where would you even start … left alone end here as a producer?
AndrewJoyner. I would say weirdly charming. Not quite compelling. What I like is the melody and singing. The instrumental part is just trash. It brings nothing to the table, it's annoying. I can get on board with simplistic, out of tune, out of time, out of key, all to a degree, but their style is equivalent to children picking up instruments for the first time. That's where the comparisons to Syd Barrett fail, at least in my experience. He had similarly odd melodies and singing that I like in a weird way, but the music wasn't complete trash, from what I hward.
zappa didn't like the shaggs. and neither did kurt cobain. sometimes people say things just to shock or to be contrary. they do and say ridiculous outrageous things just to get media attention. the last 30 years american culture has, intentionally, headed for the gutter. and its finally reached it. talent and innovation has been replaced by shock, expletives, simplicity and repetition. corporations have finally succeeded in turning american culture into ABSOLUTE CRAP! dumbing humanity down and appeasing the lowest common denominator is the only goal. convincing people up is down, left is right, men are women and CRAP IS GENIUS, corrupting youth through a corporate controlled youth culture is what american culture has been reduced to. and when you expose this reality to today's youth, like fanatical cult members, THEY ATTACK! the shaggs were innocents. but what they began is now the accepted norm. and people are just too damned brainwashed, too busy with their mindless video games and internet porn and cellphone addiction to even recognize their own blatant manipulation.
Their father pulled them out of school, gave them instruments, and made them write and record songs. They didn't have any lessons, and they didn't know anything about song structure, so they made up their own rules. The girls knew they weren't good, and begged their father to get them music lessons, but he wanted to capture them while their sound was "fresh." Eventually he gave in, and later on they did learn to play. But after he died they quit playing and went on to lead normal lives. Years later, their albums were rediscovered and they did some reunion shows. They wanted to "fix" the songs but the audience wanted to hear them as originally recorded, which really puzzled the band. Two of the sisters, Dot and Betty, reunited with a real band a few years back and did a few final shows. I saw them at the Solid Sound festival and actually it was a lot of fun. Dot has since released a solo album which is quirky and offbeat, but can at least pass for coherent music.
They did have music and singing lessons before potw was recorded and they learned how to read music all the songs were written down on sheet music! The guitar player in the dot wiggin band could not believe it was written on sheet music.
You want SCARY ? Listen to compositions and recordings by Charles Manson and/or David Koresh ! Any an d all art should be viewed within context . These young ladies did not go on to create evil !
Foot foot was her pet cat . There was an interview with one of the members of this band in Rolling Stone years later. She said she ended the song finding the cat even though the cat never came back .
I read elsewhere second hand, don't know if it's true, the cat had either one or two feet amputated. Maybe that is why it was called Foot Foot. It only had two feet.
I think Zappa liked it for it's purity and for it being a true expression of the artist. Frank said that his guitar solos were always improvised because he was expressing what he felt at that particular moment for that particular environment, and playing a rehearsed solo would not be appropriate as it would be an expression of himself at an earlier time. As we know from their backstory, The Shaggs had no training, no guidance, no reference material. Just a bunch of instruments and an insane father. The music they created came 100% from them. The timings, the tunings, the interaction with each other (or lack of interaction). It was all deliberate and could be reproduced accurately (and they could also play this stuff live with choreographed dance moves!). When they reformed years later, they pulled out sheet music for each song, but it was written in a form of notation that they'd invented themselves. There's so many musicians - especially guitarists - that describe themselves as "self taught", because they learned from books, videos, friends, etc. instead of having formal lessons. The Shaggs is what true self-teaching produces. No outside influences, not even someone telling them what to tune each string to. Nobody teaches a bird what to sing. It just sings, and it's beautiful. Nobody teaches a whale to sing. It just sings, and it's beautiful. Nobody taught The Shaggs how to play. They just played, and it's beautiful in its own twisted way.
~Very, very well put. Very good points that you are making. For another “Alternative Rock (AR)” band that I like is Roxy Music who also invented “AR” about and around 1970 with The Shaggs. ~But The Shaggs sound like a top hit band for tone deaf people with a tin ear. But seriously and honestly, actually the very worst band is Nine Inch Nails.
true. punk rock and disco sucked too. zappa didn't like the shaggs. and neither did kurt cobain. sometimes people say things just to shock or to be contrary. they do and say ridiculous outrageous things just to get media attention. the last 30 years american culture has, intentionally, headed for the gutter. and its finally reached it. talent and innovation has been replaced by shock, expletives, simplicity and repetition. corporations have finally succeeded in turning american culture into ABSOLUTE CRAP! dumbing humanity down and appeasing the lowest common denominator is the only goal. convincing people up is down, left is right, men are women and CRAP IS GENIUS, corrupting youth through a corporate controlled youth culture is what american culture has been reduced to. and when you expose this reality to today's youth, like fanatical cult members, THEY ATTACK! the shaggs were innocents. but what they began is now the accepted norm. and people are just too damned brainwashed, too busy with their mindless video games and internet porn and cellphone addiction to even recognize their own blatant manipulation.
I think Frank was taking the piss out of the music industry just about as much as he was thinking outside the box... the charm of something like this - such as it is - is that it's not safe, pre-packaged "hit" material, it's outsiders doing their own thing without the interference of the music industry making them do it profitably. The Shaggs are perhapse even more "relevant" in that way today: whatever else you can say about those three portly sisters, you can't say that they've had a top-dollar production staff Auto-tune the life and originality out of whatever the hell it was they were doing, and in that way, there's a sort of innocence, purity, individuality, and vitality to something like "Foot Foot" that you'll never find in a Top 40 song. But make no mistake: this is still bloody awful!
This is the world of so bad is good type deal, many others called this as Outsider music. Just imagine a group that comes from the likes of The Beatles and The Rolling stones both of them doing mostly well produced and popular music, then The Shaggs came along (with its back story on its side) with an under produced and out of tune mess, it's almost punk in a way.
Frank liked it because its an oddity. That's all. Frank liked to put the music label on everything but really it was him revolting against mainstream music.
Yeah, I think Frank was taking the piss out of the music industry just about as much as he was thinking outside the box... the charm of something like this - such as it is - is that it's not safe, pre-packaged "hit" material, it's outsiders doing their own thing without the interference of the music industry making them do it profitably. The Shaggs are perhapse even more "relevant" in that way today: whatever else you can say about those three portly sisters, you can't say that they've had a top-dollar production staff Auto-tune the life and originality out of whatever the hell it was they were doing, and in that way, there's a sort of innocence, purity, and vitality to something like "Foot Foot" that you'll never find in a Top 40 song. But make no mistake: this is still bloody awful!
They sound like they recorded each part separately, not as a band and then stitched together. The drums sound actually descent but it's really hard to isolate listening to them with all this madness. The guitar is definitely out of tune. The vocals sound good at times, some nice harmonies but as already said within the chaos you cannot tell. I would like to hear the isolated tracks. My best guess is that Zappa was trolling.
I love this quote about Frank's relationship with Lennon, John said he sounded good playing alongside Zappa. In addition, Zappa praised John’s sense of humor. He recalled how, before they played on stage, John told him “You’re not as ugly as I thought you would be.” John and Zappa each had a sense of humor - even if they criticized each other.
THIS cover version demonstrates how much BETTER a song can become when the instruments are in tune, when the drummer respects the meter, when the tempo is consistent, when each musician has put in the necessary 'work'. Same song: ruclips.net/video/bBdOZW-rqrE/видео.htmlsi=QRCF394sYaXpifZG
Basically, three idiots whose daddy told them to keep trying. Coincidentally, one year after Yoko Ono introduced “her thing” to the world, you have this trio, who knew they could mimic the same thing that she was doing and get a fraction of the attention. Only Yoko Ono had more talent, if you can imagine that! After all, she knew enough to shut the hell up after a few minutes. Zappa hooked up with Yoko for Sometime In New York City in 1972, which he later regretted. That stunt with Yoko likely ended his late 60s theory that “off the wall = talent ahead of its time”. This trio would have had more SUCKcess with a pet rock, never mind “foot foot”. Listen to this non stop while watching Plan 9 From Outer Space and you will wish you were in Russia getting thrown out a window. “So Bad It’s Good” does not apply to this atrocity.
I took interest in a cool looking abandoned recording studio down by the beach a short distance from my house. Turns out this album was recorded there. The building still exists, preserved in the pickle brine of time
Their dad took them to the studio to record their album and the studio told him that they wasn't ready and their dad replied, "I gotta get em while they're hot!" LMAO
You should check out Three Beat Slide…a dad and his two talentless kids (son and daughter)…not as tuneless as The Shaggs but awful videos, terrible singing and some seriously creepy vibes from the dad! As for Zappa liking the Shaggs, I wonder if it’s Frank being subversive as a prank. And Foot Foot was a cat, apparently; not surprised he ran away cos the band sound like a strangled cat 😂
@@ShredmasterScott Kurt Cobain called it his 5th favourite album, but that didn't seem like a joke as it was a serious generic list of his favourite albums just this was in that position
I listened to the whole album a while ago when the internet brought attention to its bad-ness. In a weird artsy avant garde way I actually kinda dug it.
So basically this song is about Dot’s (one of the sister’s) twice amputated cat. The story is actually pretty sad. Their dad forced them to play music. This video gives a good synopsis. I’ve kind of been fascinated by the cult following of this album ruclips.net/video/8eEpyxoNkwk/видео.html
“You can’t always write a chord ugly enough to say what you want to say, so sometimes you have to rely on a giraffe filled with whipped cream.” - Frank Zappa Does that answer your question?
The Shaggs were genuinely terrible! (Even the sisters admit that!) They were also genuinely TEN YEARS AHEAD OF THEIR TIME!! A decade later across the Atlantic there were UK post-punk/art-punk bands who were intentionally sounding like this! They were appearing on the European Top 40 and developing small-but-loyal American cult followings: the Raincoats, Essential Logic, Kleenix (aka Liliput), the Slits, Delta 5...
I believe it's a dog that ran away from the house because of their rehearsals. How did someone actually pay to record this. This could be a new form of torture.
You misunderstand. Lack Of Talent is what created this. They just don't know any better. They're not doing any of this deliberately. That's the beauty of it.
I wonder if we're talking about the same song? "My Pal Foot Foot" is without a doubt one of the most unique, puzzling, spine-tingling songs that has ever, or ever will, exist!
There’s tons of interesting outsiders making music like Captain Beefheart, Jandek, Daniel Johnston (actually really good songwriter), and my personal favorite: m.ruclips.net/video/exTMCq0cnLs/видео.html
The 60s were a blur for me lol... I did lots of drugs. But you have to understand where Frank's head was at the time, vs where mainstream was. Though he was a creative genius, his generally anti generic, anti commercial sentiment was usually injected with a little sarcasm. So the group, and his opinion were basically about flipping off society.
I just do some research and from a video by Cactus Malpractice where he review Philosophy of the World, he said that The Shaggs is forced to play music for 5 years prior to the album (Idk if it's actually true tho). I also find out from the comment that they have another album called Shaggs Own Thing, they recorded it after they actually learn how to play and it sounds pretty good... And btw there's new version of My Pal Foot Foot in the album, and it's so much better now...
Actually, this is what happens when you become a professional band after practicing your instruments... but with no outside guidance or reference or instruction 😭
These girls lived in total isolation so this is what music sounds like when there are NO outside influences whatsoever. If you think of it It's really the results of an unplanned scientific experiment.
Hi There is a RUclips video about the kids and this album , what happened is the father was the person that was pushing this thing to happen. The engineer told him this was a bad idea and that thay were not ready for this. He was overruled. If you look for it you can find it. I find it kinda sad.
Frank liked this because all music sounds at least a certain way and this was completely diffrent, doesent mean good, but there is truly nothing like the story and the music the shaggs wrote
Have you ever listened to Philip Kirkorov? All his songs are absolute Space Horror From Ye Depth Ov Infernal Abyss Where Ye Ancient Ones Lay Dormant. For he is a prophet of their coming. And these poor girls simply can't play their instruments.
being very bold, i think i might do a lttle better. how can someone sign off on such a production. there is however an upsite to this. even the principle of evil, shred himself can't make anything of it ;)
You know what? Me and two pals of mine did a rendition of 'Philosophy of the World' a few weeks ago at a session night. I've played and sang Rush repertoire my whole musical life - 30 years plus! - and the biggest compliment I ever got was that the Shaggs song must have been the most difficult performance I ever did. And it WAS. Any idea HOW difficult it is to sing in tune while you're playing OUT of tune and the drums are just bashing away in a completely different tempo?
Gotta love the shaggs, love those guitars too, great lookin things..... It’s obviously profoundly amateurish n unmusical but fuck atleast it’s interesting, atleast it doesn’t really sound like anything else, it’s got its own thing. I mean, it’s terrible but theirs more character in a few bars of The Shaggs than there is in 95% of successful bands out there. They sound like The Shaggs, most bands don’t have a recognisable sound of their own.
From what ive been told, they were raised in isolation and was not exposed to much popular music and never had a lesson on any of their instruments. They had NOTHING to go on.
Yep, that is the(ir) story! … and that is why the producer ultimatively did a good job, me thinks! He captured raw, uneducated but honest human expression w\o touching it and bending it in any direction! Plus: where would you even start … left alone end here as a producer?
Their Dad, who was their manager wouldn't let them tune their guitars. They thought you tuned them once and they were done. Forever.
@@MariUSukulele Yeah there is a certain innocence or purity to the music which makes it weirdly compelling in my opinion.
We need a "Behind the Music" for this lady-band
AndrewJoyner. I would say weirdly charming. Not quite compelling. What I like is the melody and singing.
The instrumental part is just trash. It brings nothing to the table, it's annoying.
I can get on board with simplistic, out of tune, out of time, out of key, all to a degree, but their style is equivalent to children picking up instruments for the first time.
That's where the comparisons to Syd Barrett fail, at least in my experience. He had similarly odd melodies and singing that I like in a weird way, but the music wasn't complete trash, from what I hward.
This music is so advanced that it's over our heads.
Exactly…
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It’s music for the intelligent race of aliens that made the pyramids.
zappa didn't like the shaggs. and neither did kurt cobain. sometimes people say things just to shock or to be contrary. they do and say ridiculous outrageous things just to get media attention. the last 30 years american culture has, intentionally, headed for the gutter. and its finally reached it.
talent and innovation has been replaced by shock, expletives, simplicity and repetition. corporations have finally succeeded in turning american culture into ABSOLUTE CRAP! dumbing humanity down and appeasing the lowest common denominator is the only goal. convincing people up is down, left is right, men are women and CRAP IS GENIUS, corrupting youth through a corporate controlled youth culture is what american culture has been reduced to.
and when you expose this reality to today's youth, like fanatical cult members, THEY ATTACK! the shaggs were innocents. but what they began is now the accepted norm. and people are just too damned brainwashed, too busy with their mindless video games and internet porn and cellphone addiction to even recognize their own blatant manipulation.
True!! 👍
It sounds like a Syd Barrett song written for people who can't afford LSD.
So it sounds great?
@@thedrunkphilosopher3123 If you want a cheap WTF trip, I guess it works ;)
@@Leo_ofRedKeep I’m a big fan of the Barrett years in Pink Floyd.
I find it far more intesting without the modern everything in a grid song writing
i like barret and piper, but yeah madcap laughs such except octopus and dark globe
@@Cole-li7hq still makes for an interesting musical palette.
At least it’s not Yoko ono
James Hetfield was inspired by this song to write the lyrics to "Wherever i may roam"
Fucking true😂😂
And it actually became so good even the drummer is on time (jokes aside I actually like Lars' drumming).
He must've been referencing the way they play.
This is true
Agreed
Their father pulled them out of school, gave them instruments, and made them write and record songs. They didn't have any lessons, and they didn't know anything about song structure, so they made up their own rules. The girls knew they weren't good, and begged their father to get them music lessons, but he wanted to capture them while their sound was "fresh." Eventually he gave in, and later on they did learn to play. But after he died they quit playing and went on to lead normal lives.
Years later, their albums were rediscovered and they did some reunion shows. They wanted to "fix" the songs but the audience wanted to hear them as originally recorded, which really puzzled the band. Two of the sisters, Dot and Betty, reunited with a real band a few years back and did a few final shows. I saw them at the Solid Sound festival and actually it was a lot of fun. Dot has since released a solo album which is quirky and offbeat, but can at least pass for coherent music.
They did have music and singing lessons before potw was recorded and they learned how to read music all the songs were written down on sheet music!
The guitar player in the dot wiggin band could not believe it was written on sheet music.
They are really skilled because they can play minor and major chords at the same time out of tune.
Can you do it.
😂
Not only that, you forgot about the timing.
i can! just tune the third so it is 50 cents between the major and minor third. people call this a neutral third
The scary thing about this is that they do start singing at the same time so they must kinda know what they’re doing. This music is beyond us
According to the recording engineer…they actually stopped during recording of this song cause someone made a mistake and started over. 🤷♂️
Saints...that's kinda scary
You want SCARY ? Listen to compositions and recordings by Charles Manson and/or David Koresh ! Any an d all art should be viewed within context . These young ladies did not go on to create evil !
Foot foot was her pet cat . There was an interview with one of the members of this band in Rolling Stone years later. She said she ended the song finding the cat even though the cat never came back .
If i was that cat then i would honestly know why i abandoned them, good on him for leaving his master who makes atrocious music.
I read elsewhere second hand, don't know if it's true, the cat had either one or two feet amputated. Maybe that is why it was called Foot Foot. It only had two feet.
I think Zappa liked it for it's purity and for it being a true expression of the artist. Frank said that his guitar solos were always improvised because he was expressing what he felt at that particular moment for that particular environment, and playing a rehearsed solo would not be appropriate as it would be an expression of himself at an earlier time.
As we know from their backstory, The Shaggs had no training, no guidance, no reference material. Just a bunch of instruments and an insane father. The music they created came 100% from them. The timings, the tunings, the interaction with each other (or lack of interaction). It was all deliberate and could be reproduced accurately (and they could also play this stuff live with choreographed dance moves!).
When they reformed years later, they pulled out sheet music for each song, but it was written in a form of notation that they'd invented themselves.
There's so many musicians - especially guitarists - that describe themselves as "self taught", because they learned from books, videos, friends, etc. instead of having formal lessons. The Shaggs is what true self-teaching produces. No outside influences, not even someone telling them what to tune each string to.
Nobody teaches a bird what to sing. It just sings, and it's beautiful.
Nobody teaches a whale to sing. It just sings, and it's beautiful.
Nobody taught The Shaggs how to play. They just played, and it's beautiful in its own twisted way.
~Very, very well put. Very good points that you are making. For another “Alternative Rock (AR)” band that I like is Roxy Music who also invented “AR” about and around 1970 with The Shaggs.
~But The Shaggs sound like a top hit band for tone deaf people with a tin ear. But seriously and honestly, actually the very worst band is Nine Inch Nails.
I think Frank was being sarcastic, maybe taking a jab at John Lennon due to the little row they had after playing together.
The Shaggs LPs and cassettes are collector's items, and can go for a pretty hefty sum.
This is a psychedelic progressive rock masterpiece
True😂😂
I am MOSHING
That day the shaggs popular at college and intelegence ppl.
Hard to understand but it's true.
If I recall the sisters never wanted to be musicians but their father was a bit of a disciplinarian and forced them into this
These girls are legends. They singlehandedly invented punk rock without even knowing
I mean no because iggy and the stooges and sonic youth both came out before this album.... This isn't punk it's outsider. Different genres.
@@drdre4397 joke
And that’s a bad thing
@@drdre4397 sonic youth lol u mean the sonics
true. punk rock and disco sucked too. zappa didn't like the shaggs. and neither did kurt cobain. sometimes people say things just to shock or to be contrary. they do and say ridiculous outrageous things just to get media attention. the last 30 years american culture has, intentionally, headed for the gutter. and its finally reached it.
talent and innovation has been replaced by shock, expletives, simplicity and repetition. corporations have finally succeeded in turning american culture into ABSOLUTE CRAP! dumbing humanity down and appeasing the lowest common denominator is the only goal. convincing people up is down, left is right, men are women and CRAP IS GENIUS, corrupting youth through a corporate controlled youth culture is what american culture has been reduced to.
and when you expose this reality to today's youth, like fanatical cult members, THEY ATTACK! the shaggs were innocents. but what they began is now the accepted norm. and people are just too damned brainwashed, too busy with their mindless video games and internet porn and cellphone addiction to even recognize their own blatant manipulation.
I think Frank was taking the piss out of the music industry just about as much as he was thinking outside the box... the charm of something like this - such as it is - is that it's not safe, pre-packaged "hit" material, it's outsiders doing their own thing without the interference of the music industry making them do it profitably.
The Shaggs are perhapse even more "relevant" in that way today: whatever else you can say about those three portly sisters, you can't say that they've had a top-dollar production staff Auto-tune the life and originality out of whatever the hell it was they were doing, and in that way, there's a sort of innocence, purity, individuality, and vitality to something like "Foot Foot" that you'll never find in a Top 40 song.
But make no mistake: this is still bloody awful!
Agreed. I think that Frank's statement says more about his disdain for the Beatles than his admiration for the Shaggs.
ShredMaster What are some essentials in music theory that will help me sound like The 69shaggies?
Record the sound of those theory books hitting the ground: That's your drum loop.
This is the world of so bad is good type deal, many others called this as Outsider music. Just imagine a group that comes from the likes of The Beatles and The Rolling stones both of them doing mostly well produced and popular music, then The Shaggs came along (with its back story on its side) with an under produced and out of tune mess, it's almost punk in a way.
Frank liked it because its an oddity. That's all. Frank liked to put the music label on everything but really it was him revolting against mainstream music.
Yeah, I think Frank was taking the piss out of the music industry just about as much as he was thinking outside the box... the charm of something like this - such as it is - is that it's not safe, pre-packaged "hit" material, it's outsiders doing their own thing without the interference of the music industry making them do it profitably.
The Shaggs are perhapse even more "relevant" in that way today: whatever else you can say about those three portly sisters, you can't say that they've had a top-dollar production staff Auto-tune the life and originality out of whatever the hell it was they were doing, and in that way, there's a sort of innocence, purity, and vitality to something like "Foot Foot" that you'll never find in a Top 40 song.
But make no mistake: this is still bloody awful!
True dat.After all,have you ever heard Wild Man Fisher?
They sound like they recorded each part separately, not as a band and then stitched together.
The drums sound actually descent but it's really hard to isolate listening to them with all this madness. The guitar is definitely out of tune. The vocals sound good at times, some nice harmonies but as already said within the chaos you cannot tell.
I would like to hear the isolated tracks.
My best guess is that Zappa was trolling.
I love this quote about Frank's relationship with Lennon,
John said he sounded good playing alongside Zappa. In addition, Zappa praised John’s sense of humor. He recalled how, before they played on stage, John told him “You’re not as ugly as I thought you would be.” John and Zappa each had a sense of humor - even if they criticized each other.
THIS cover version demonstrates how much BETTER a song can become when the instruments are in tune, when the drummer respects the meter, when the tempo is consistent, when each musician has put in the necessary 'work'. Same song:
ruclips.net/video/bBdOZW-rqrE/видео.htmlsi=QRCF394sYaXpifZG
Can we just take the time to appreciate that shred just shredded his ears for us? I salute you brother.
So basically you're saying what they expressed during that particular moment for that particular environment was child-abuse-induced brain damage
Basically, three idiots whose daddy told them to keep trying. Coincidentally, one year after Yoko Ono introduced “her thing” to the world, you have this trio, who knew they could mimic the same thing that she was doing and get a fraction of the attention. Only Yoko Ono had more talent, if you can imagine that! After all, she knew enough to shut the hell up after a few minutes. Zappa hooked up with Yoko for Sometime In New York City in 1972, which he later regretted. That stunt with Yoko likely ended his late 60s theory that “off the wall = talent ahead of its time”. This trio would have had more SUCKcess with a pet rock, never mind “foot foot”. Listen to this non stop while watching Plan 9 From Outer Space and you will wish you were in Russia getting thrown out a window. “So Bad It’s Good” does not apply to this atrocity.
I took interest in a cool looking abandoned recording studio down by the beach a short distance from my house. Turns out this album was recorded there. The building still exists, preserved in the pickle brine of time
Their dad took them to the studio to record their album and the studio told him that they wasn't ready and their dad replied, "I gotta get em while they're hot!" LMAO
You should check out Three Beat Slide…a dad and his two talentless kids (son and daughter)…not as tuneless as The Shaggs but awful videos, terrible singing and some seriously creepy vibes from the dad!
As for Zappa liking the Shaggs, I wonder if it’s Frank being subversive as a prank.
And Foot Foot was a cat, apparently; not surprised he ran away cos the band sound like a strangled cat 😂
I bet Frank was just trolling muhaha
Thanks dude , just found my new favourite band 👍🏻
i definitely prever the shaggs over those 3 haha
@@ShredmasterScott Kurt Cobain called it his 5th favourite album, but that didn't seem like a joke as it was a serious generic list of his favourite albums just this was in that position
Three beat slide are definitely worse than Shaggs
they can play Gminor and Gmajor at the same time.
that type of skill in unrivaled
I listened to the whole album a while ago when the internet brought attention to its bad-ness. In a weird artsy avant garde way I actually kinda dug it.
Good thing I already have Tinnitus, all I hear is ringing in my ears. Do they sound really good?
So basically this song is about Dot’s (one of the sister’s) twice amputated cat. The story is actually pretty sad. Their dad forced them to play music. This video gives a good synopsis. I’ve kind of been fascinated by the cult following of this album
ruclips.net/video/8eEpyxoNkwk/видео.html
Twice amputated cat LMFAO...Foot Foot..I just cant, holy fucking shit lol
@@alistairclifton1286 I can't even see straight lauging so hard wtf foot foot my cat is looking at me now
Shred, could you please make a video about muscle tension and how to reduce it?
“You can’t always write a chord ugly enough to say what you want to say, so sometimes you have to rely on a giraffe filled with whipped cream.”
- Frank Zappa
Does that answer your question?
I like that you have headphones on but still trying to hear it better by putting a hand beside ear
Have you tried playing it backwards ???
I could tell by the 17 sharps in the key signature that it's clearly been composed in G Minjor.
The Shaggs were genuinely terrible! (Even the sisters admit that!) They were also genuinely TEN YEARS AHEAD OF THEIR TIME!! A decade later across the Atlantic there were UK post-punk/art-punk bands who were intentionally sounding like this! They were appearing on the European Top 40 and developing small-but-loyal American cult followings: the Raincoats, Essential Logic, Kleenix (aka Liliput), the Slits, Delta 5...
Describing the band as "Three portly sisters" almost had me falling out of my chair.
Foot Foot was their pet cat that was born missing two feet, but it could still hobble around somehow. Then one day it vanished.
Not just Frank Zappa, but also Kurt Cobain had this album as no.5 in his list of best albums of all time
How do you use a 7 sting melodically like steve vai? I dont want to become a 000000000000 guy
I'M FROM MÉXICO and I'M A HUGE FAN OF the channel. Do you teach online?
I believe it's a dog that ran away from the house because of their rehearsals. How did someone actually pay to record this. This could be a new form of torture.
Poor Foot Foot was a cat. He never came home but they wanted a happier ending so they put him behind a tree
It takes talent to not be on time, be out of tune both on guitars and vocally, have bad lyrics and still make a record. Respect.
You misunderstand. Lack Of Talent is what created this. They just don't know any better. They're not doing any of this deliberately. That's the beauty of it.
Seeing shred actually cracking up was funny. And its not the worst song. The worst song is Wonderwall.
There's a really interesting story behind the Shaggs. And yes, they do reunion tours.
Maybe somebody should cover that song with better music.
ruclips.net/video/mlLjVa-fjKk/видео.html
Try that
@@DadGamingLtd so cool
I wonder if we're talking about the same song? "My Pal Foot Foot" is without a doubt one of the most unique, puzzling, spine-tingling songs that has ever, or ever will, exist!
Does anyone know who or what is "foot foot?"
"The guitars need to be tuned"
Emm, I think you'll find they are experimenting with microtones
There’s tons of interesting outsiders making music like Captain Beefheart, Jandek, Daniel Johnston (actually really good songwriter), and my personal favorite:
m.ruclips.net/video/exTMCq0cnLs/видео.html
You're a good fella.
Try listening to this album on LSD.
I listened to this whole album and stuff in my room started levitating and flying around
Foot Foot tried to escape from her vocals.
The 60s were a blur for me lol... I did lots of drugs. But you have to understand where Frank's head was at the time, vs where mainstream was. Though he was a creative genius, his generally anti generic, anti commercial sentiment was usually injected with a little sarcasm. So the group, and his opinion were basically about flipping off society.
Frank didn't do drugs
@@happyliver462 he hated drugs and was very strict about kicking out anyone for using drugs while playing with him
@@happyliver462 I never implied he did.
@@tsant6591 oh you were talking about you. Fair enough
@@hunterraoulduke Ted Nugent is like that too
Their timing is cursed…
I know this track well, and I still laughed out loud this whole video at your commentary. First time on the channel. Subscribed!
Drugs and a lost rabbit, sounds like some Alice in Wonderland.
For some reason that snare sounded so good
Thanks, although I live alone, I now realised what an amazing Christmas I was having! XD
Worst song in existence...really??? You haven't listened to much of the auto -tuned shite on the radio and TV lately have you???
Think you just helped me name my new cat
I just do some research and from a video by Cactus Malpractice where he review Philosophy of the World, he said that The Shaggs is forced to play music for 5 years prior to the album (Idk if it's actually true tho). I also find out from the comment that they have another album called Shaggs Own Thing, they recorded it after they actually learn how to play and it sounds pretty good... And btw there's new version of My Pal Foot Foot in the album, and it's so much better now...
The song was about their cat .Their dad made them ,,forced them to get into music.
This is what happens when you become a professional band... without ever picking up an instrument first!
Actually, this is what happens when you become a professional band after practicing your instruments... but with no outside guidance or reference or instruction 😭
They don't get lost when singing at the same time, we have to give them that!! Bet none of us could do it...
I didn't want to remember this exists again...
no rules just true no chains freedom
Frank Zappa loved subversion against authority. In this case what was being subverted here were musical norms.
The Shaggs are awesome… they had the guts to put out an album this bad , if that isn’t punk, I don’t know what is…. 🙂.
These girls lived in total isolation so this is what music sounds like when there are NO outside influences whatsoever. If you think of it It's really the results of an unplanned scientific experiment.
Still better than Nickleback.
I must update your comment... Still better than Imagine Dragons.
please analyze the theory in this song
Frank may have been deaf or temporarily lost his hearing during recording.
People criticize this, but I'd like to see someone try to cover it.
7:08 their father was the producer...
Hi
There is a RUclips video about the kids and this album , what happened is the father was the person that was pushing this thing to happen. The engineer told him this was a bad idea and that thay were not ready for this. He was overruled. If you look for it you can find it. I find it kinda sad.
Frank liked this because all music sounds at least a certain way and this was completely diffrent, doesent mean good, but there is truly nothing like the story and the music the shaggs wrote
Zappa has a great sense of humour
This song could hypnotized your mind..you'l be liked it,, Im sure I feel that. ( Just like a SPELL)
What if we hear it backward?
I felt like I'm listening to a satanic chanting.
Who cares what you think, Mr. Nobody?
Kurt Cobain listed this album in his 50 favorite albums of all time.
A better question might be,how messed up would his parents have to be to name him foot foot?
It's about their 3 legged cat.
Unintentional chromaticism? Confusing polyrhythmic shifting meter? This is just early prog metal.
Have you ever listened to Philip Kirkorov? All his songs are absolute Space Horror From Ye Depth Ov Infernal Abyss Where Ye Ancient Ones Lay Dormant. For he is a prophet of their coming.
And these poor girls simply can't play their instruments.
The three girls of "The Shaggs" were the biggest duo of all times.
Actually it sounds really hard to play. The timing is insane with all the changes. lol.
If they tune their guitars, amazingly, they sound like Jimmy Page.
being very bold, i think i might do a lttle better. how can someone sign off on such a production. there is however an upsite to this. even the principle of evil, shred himself can't make anything of it ;)
You know what?
Me and two pals of mine did a rendition of 'Philosophy of the World' a few weeks ago at a session night.
I've played and sang Rush repertoire my whole musical life - 30 years plus! - and the biggest compliment I ever got was that the Shaggs song must have been the most difficult performance I ever did.
And it WAS.
Any idea HOW difficult it is to sing in tune while you're playing OUT of tune and the drums are just bashing away in a completely different tempo?
Gotta love the shaggs, love those guitars too, great lookin things.....
It’s obviously profoundly amateurish n unmusical but fuck atleast it’s interesting, atleast it doesn’t really sound like anything else, it’s got its own thing. I mean, it’s terrible but theirs more character in a few bars of The Shaggs than there is in 95% of successful bands out there. They sound like The Shaggs, most bands don’t have a recognisable sound of their own.
Say what you want about the Shaggs, but try and play this song live note for note. Nobody can do it, only the Shaggs can.
ruclips.net/video/bBdOZW-rqrE/видео.htmlsi=QRCF394sYaXpifZG
what gets me is how they are able (with the aid of very talented session musicians), to reproduce this sound in live performances.
love the complex timing and use of microtonal lines. THIS is advanced!
It's all by accident. They were not doing anything deliberately. They didn't know how.
The three lines of my doctor´s handwriting on my prescription:
Almost impossible not to tap my foot to Shaggs songs. Very interesting.
Dj Khalid lead guitarist for the Shags. Ironically it's definitely anything but " shagable" music !
I think this was just made as a fever dream soundtrack
still better than today's laptop musician
This sounds like every middle schooler music band