I love my Aygo and I love this engine. Simple, economic and surprisingly powerful as I embarrassed few BMW's on the traffic lights already 🤣 especially 2nd gear. It's insane that it goes up to 65mph on 2nd gear and it's asking for more. I've done in my Aygo 50k in 18 months and now it has 125k on the clock. Oil and filters with no delay, brakes tyres and bulbs. That's what this car is asking for. Together with tiny request of petrol. Non stop on deliveries and I do 400 miles before it starts beeping and the last bar is flashing. Aygo ♥️♥️♥️
I was just about to tear down the engine to diagnose this same noise on my girlfriends car and possibly replace the timing chain and tensioner today. This video has just saved me a whole lot of work. I can't thank you enough. Great video!
I had a problem with the chain. It was hanging loose. . I flushed the engine with forte . . And the problem is gone. I think the tensioner was stuck . Now the engine is clean inside everything works as it should be 👌👌
Bought my daughter a 1krfe yaris 9 yrs ago. Rattles when cold, dont like it but this makes me feel better. Done 80k now used your channel to change coolant, changed oil yearly, and filters when required. Changed front discs once and pads and shoes. Iridium plugs at 50k. It will happily cruise at 70 and regularly gives 55-60mpg on a true 5 seater with sliding back seat. If revved it is quite nippy. If not revved it has loads torque. No other maintenance at all and drives as good as it did when i picked it up at 19k miles. Cannot think of better combination for a learner car or someone who wants cheap reliable motoring. Channels like this are superb. Thank you sir, i would never have found the water pump drain plug. And ticking noise explanation great. When i bought it toyota diagnosed the timing chain, that was 60k miles ago!! Indeed the college i worked at the motor vehicle teachers said the same when in fact it is not at all. Citroen family too small for me but yaris with same mechanicals roomy car with slightly bigger wheels and more comfortable ride. - just my pennysworth. Point is thanks for your expertise and sharing it. I do all my daughters and own cars and bikes for basic maintenance but this gives me total reassurance, can view and review and far easier than manusls. Your willingness to share is really appreciated and for people even less skilled than me, it is simple. Love the coil video too.
@@aaanton11 hi aanton, still loving the channel, love the peugeot van. Daughters car just done 100k. Had to clean pcv valve, throttle body, and map or maf sensor. Running beautifully still
Just bought a 2013 107 today - love the car, and reckoned the noise was normal for a 3 cyl engine, but had a slight niggling doubt. Thanks very much for your excellent explanation- so glad I found it on RUclips ! 👍
Big thumbs up from me anton 👍🏼 I bought my 107 beginning of November (private buy) I test drove it all sounded great. I started her up the next morning an wouldn’t u know tap tap tap tap I really did panic that I bought a dud. So I pop by my local garage and he said the same as anton an that my 107 was in great shape for it’s age an mileage. It’s how I found this channel looking for advice about this noise plus found some great advice about a small boot leak I had an fixed on my own ☺️ fantastic channel 🙌🏻
I have this sound even when im not accelerating , should i try to clean the sensor? . I am having this sound even on low gear going downhill. I didnt have this sound untill last oil changing . Im worrying this is the type of oil or something i did worng. What should i do?
Just bought a Peugeot 107, got worried I had piston slap or rod knock, but you've put my mind at ease. You should do a video with audio of the difference between these 3 noises as no one else has
Really helpful video. My Ex-wife said her 107 sounded tappy and when I drove it, it sounded almost diesel like from cold which now makes sense with the way you have explained these are designed to run. Thanks 👍
My P107 from 2006 makes exactly the same noise, as long as it is not warmed up. The noise is louder at cold winter days than in summer, and it vanishes after a few kilometers driving, then it runs quite smooth. Good to hear that it is nothing to worry about. From another source I have read, that it is generally impossible or at least very difficult, to create any engine that is powerful, fuel efficient and really smooth running at the same time. So in the case of the 1kr-fe engine, a bit of harshness would be just a trade-off for its good fuel efficiency and its good torque in relation to its small displacement. Thank you very much for your explaining!
Phew, I'm glad I watched your video. I've recently bought a 2008 107 with just 49000 on the clock and heard this ticking. Panic mode! That's put my mind at rest thanks 😊
I got my 107 for service. I asked about that noise and they told me something about the valves and it costs a lot to repair. You just save me from that liars and thives . Thanks man
I have the same engine in my Toyota Yaris XP13 from 2013 and was wondering about that noise for a long time. Especially in the cold days, it takes a while until the noise disappears. After a long motorway run the noise is nearly gone. You can barely hear it when hitting 4000-5000rpm. What I also suspect is that the engine runs best on 0W20 oil, as it is the recommended oil from Toyota. My engine is running on 5W30 from Shell, which is a quite good oil. I will try a 0W20 with the next inspection. Your explanation was spot on. Thanks for that!
1,5 year I drive my Aygo and worried about this sound. I visited many maintenance stations , including Toyota and they all told to visit doctor. And now my doctor is Anton !!! Problem is solved !!! Thanks 👍❤️🇺🇦
I bought an aygo about half a year ago and i couldn't place where this sound is comming from and whether it causes any damage. Now after this video i am relieved that it doesn't deal any real damage to the engine. I can now also pick out the sound from these engines when i'm walking down the street and it's always a citybug of some kind. All and all, great video and a great explanation of the ticking noise on my Aygo. Cheers!
Thanks for the explanation on this. My wife’s C1 is making this sound and it’s just hit 26000 miles before I noticed it. The ticking sound does go away after the engine has warmed up. Your video has put my mind at rest regarding the health of the engine. Thank you so much as I can now try to explain to my wife what the sound is and she will think I’m clever for working out what I noticed and she hadn’t lol. 👍
Morning Ant.... This is why us subscriber's love ya channel. A mind of information. Knowledge & well explained. I'm beginning to like the "DINKY TOYS" too. Great video as always. Fantastic range of subjects on the channel. Stay safe. Stay healthy to yourself & the gang. Alan L200
Thanks very much for that video. My dad's hung up his keys and given me his very shiny low mileage C1 to sell. I was very worried about the noise, being unfamiliar. The noise does indeed tail off a bit after warm up but never goes away. Now I can sell with confidence, this vid will be worth a good few quid to me. Thanks.
i read somewhere that only the exhaust side is variable on valve timing, i only use Shell, it sound horrible on other petrol station fuels, especially on supermarket fuel, there must be a difference, touch wood at 88k nothing has gone bad with my Aygo, regular oil changes have avoided any sludge build up in the engine, as these are built like swiss watches, i bought it during scrappage in 2008 / 2009 brand new for £6k Have a look how much they want now for them now new... the new Aygo Compact Cross Over was £17k the last time i checked, dealerships are price gouging again. and have found if you use supermarket fuel the Aygo will make far more noise than Shell fuel.
Thanks for that explanation of the ticking noise, I've just taken my daughters C1 to the shops when I heard a ticking sound...... Then I thought..... Oh noooo, what's that. You have suitably reassured me.
Dude thank you ❤❤, recently just got a 2013 C1 120K on the clock. Drove to work this morning early (0500) and haven’t used it once in the cold etc. I was worried she was done but everything you’ve pointed out makes sense and does what she’s doing. It got less noisy as I got into the trip and tonight same home. So happy it’s a feature and just gotta use to of it. Plus too use to the BMW 8 did have. Thank you again dude. Too info and great demo, explanation.
I let my bug warm up if I can before I leave work for home. I'd always thought it was just noise from the cam followers when the engine was cold. Thanks for the explanation.
Glad I watched this, just noticed mine doing this over 3000 rpm yesterday, or more prominent anyway. Only has 23k on the clock as well but has been sat around a bit, thought it was pinging and something was up, glad to hear its normal!
Brilliant thank you, i actually thought mine was slightly loose auxiliary belt due to the chirpy squealing noise, it sounds identical to yours thanks for great info 👍
Hi Anton, very interesting video indeed. Someone did tell me that adjusting the valve clearances helps but its apparently a very tricky thing to do on these cars. I have an 07 Aygo on 191600 miles and as it got to over 100k it stated using oil (about a litre every 2k miles) I changed the PCV valve and I haven't used any oil for last 1500 miles and improved my mpg from averaging 54mpg to 59.9mpg (tested over about a 1000 miles) It could be an interesting little video for you to make?? I had to buy the part from Japan as I couldn't locate one in UK. Keep up the great videos mate.
@@aaanton11 If you are at all interested I have a FB page for these cars I would be honoured if you would like to join The Bug 3 Zone (Toyota Aygo/Citroen C1/Peugeot 107/108) and promote your videos there Regards - Colin
@@MrEnigma64 they’re an impressive engine. I’ve only just bought mine as a temp vehicle. It’s done 165k miles. It sounds horrible when it’s cold, but once warmed up it sounds fine. I don’t think it’s been serviced as often as it should’ve been, but it goes well for what it is and seems to sip fuel compared to my Golf Gti 😄
My Mk5 Mondeo 2.0 diesel ticks on cold start until the engine reaches temperature, sounds like lifters, really annoying and everyone who hears it, straight away ask what's wrong with your car 😂 the dealership I purchased the car from has always said this is normal and I've always argued it's not, I've already been confused how a modern car with only 50k miles can sound so crap and you have just answered it, thanks mate this video has been really helpful
I've put a couple of videos on my channel to show this noise I'm having, unfortunately my curiosity gets the better of me 😂 it would be awesome if you could have a listen to let me know if this is as you explain in your video, there are no obvious problems with the car just a ticking noise. Thanks again
Great video mate . Low oil ! I think i cant get clear reading on my dip-stick ! As soon has I hear that ticking clanking sounds I full her up and it gos always ! I ran my 1st car out off oil so I can tell Thanks for your videos
I have the same engine in my Yaris. My mechanic told me that the sound is very normal in this engine. After I watch your video I became totally relieved!! Thank you!
So glad I found this channel, recently picked up an aygo ice blue, great little car, since its got a lot colder its definitely noisy and worried me till I seen your videos, less so now as a good run really helps it, would love to know if you have a video up for some plastic trim around the radiator, as I've a broken piece on the side that I assume is creating a tapping noise when driving above 35mph, the number has taken a small hit somewhere in its time but had no cat against it and I paid a decent price for it, rev counter is next but I can't seem to get a good price and I've a leak on the left side of the inner boot, I assume is probably the rear light. Thanks for the videos and hopefully you have an answer to the loose plastic behind the bumper
The loose plastic can normally be drilled and cable tied together, the rev counters are always for sale on the city bug Facebook group, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I also experience differences with different oil levels. When it's near the maximum level, it's noticeably less than if it's halfway (or one-thirds) between min and max. I always assumed that whenever it's between min and max it should be fine, regardless of ticking. However, when I found out the difference between min and max is 1,5 lt (according to owners manual) instead of 1 lt on a total volume of 3,1 l, I check it a bit more often as it means that the oil quality degrades quicker than with other cars as the content percentage of pollutants probably will be more significant than with cars having larger oil volumes.
Dimitri, Athens, Greece. about a month ago l bought a second hand 2012 citroen c1 1.0 68 hp. with 91200 km clocked which had been imported from Germany. lt was tested by a friend mechanic but it was hot and we had the windows down and didn't notice the ticking sound. Once l drove it, the ticking sound would appear when accelerating and above 1700 revs and initially l thought that it was "pinking" noise from bad petrol. l used this petrol and then filled it up with 100 octane petrol. Nothing changed so at the next fill-up l added a little bottle of Redex, engine and injector cleaner ( l think it was 90 ml ) and left for a short trip of about 350 km. and then started using it again in the city. After doing another 100 km and 3 of 6 tank bars down, l then noticed that the ticking had been reduced considerably. lf the noise was rated a 10 level, it now was down to about 3 to 4. Doing another 100 km and accelerating normally in the city, no noise is heard at all. l floor and accelerate now hard and maybe you hear a 1 or 2 level compared to the initial 10 level of ticking. L searched the internet on engine and injector cleaners and they say that it takes a while and after about 500 to 600 km for the additive to do its job. l wonder if this is all that had to be done to get rid of the ticking noise. i initially had changed the engine oil from regular to synthetic just in case the cylinders weren't oiled well and was the culprit of this piston slap but nothing happened. Reading on the internet, they say that Lucus engine and injector cleaner is the top cleaner and if l can find it, l intend to give a try once l use all the current gasoline in my tank. l can only think that there was dirt or carbon deposits in the injectors which gave maybe a one sided "spray" and after combustion, it gave a not even push but rather a one sided push to the piston and likewise, a side push to the piston which in turn created the piston slap. Since l'm not a mechanic l'd appreciate your thoughts. Kind Regards from Athens, Greece.
I have owned 2 low mileage 1KR-FE engines, both made the noise when cold. Once engine more than another, I just went easy with the throttle until warm (and the pistons have expanded slightly).
So if you're arguing it's the feature of this engine, then any aygo running off the production facility would have piston slap? With ours I THINK it started this noise approx. 10/15.000km ago, or I never noticed it before. Apart from the start it disappears within minutes though after getting hot and still runs smoothly after 170.000 km. Here in the Netherlands I read threads where engines are replaced under warranty over this, or that it is at least a defect causing piston/bore wear resulting in e.g. high oil usage. So you're positive it isn't? It at least seems by the many accounts of people it's quite common and the aygo can get old with it. But yeah, I'm about to sell it and it's not really a USP when a buyer hears it. Perhaps I should refer your link.
This is crazy. I have a Subaru Justy IV with the 1KR-FE engine and it does tick only when I accelerate under load and it’s the loudest at 2k RPM and it goes away or become more silent when it gets up to temp. I was wondering why it does that and I was suspecting the timing chain being worn out and/or the clutch or transmission…so this video was really useful for me😁
Same here lol! Loud at acceleration and deceleration at about 2200 to 2500 RPM. Gets better after warmed up. 160.000 km. Took me 2 weeks to find someone with the same "Problem". Thanks for sharing!
Great video I was worrying about this as the noise does change also I found using super unleaded petrol it's getting better MPG . Thanks I can hold off on the garage visit 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it! hope yours is still sounding superb with the sportex hanging of the back, Hope you and yours are all well, Thanks Derek for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Great video i thought id bought a lemon i have bought a 60 plate c1 and when engine is cold its very ticky under load it does quieten down ince ive driven for 5 mins or so but never completely goes away ,i have peace of mind now knowing its normal ,THANK YOU
I have a Yaris with this 1KR-FE engine, had a friend of mine who's a seasoned mechanic point me to this video when i asked him about that sound. Have heard it from the moment i brought it home from the dealer.
Thank you so much very interesting, I have a Citroen C1 love it but has this little tick tick noise you have put my mind a rest it’s not a massive problem thank you 😊
Wow thank you so much for this info.... Does the type of oil have anything to do with this ? I'm using Kroon Oil 0W30 with the thought that thinner oil at start will lubricate faster.
@@aaanton11 question,. My clutch biting point is always high, standard for these little cars, but from time to time the clutch false bites much lower down, kinda like it bites a little and then stops until I get to the regular biting point, any ideas? Clutch sticking and on its way out maybe?
Thank you very much for explaining this! My 107 also makes a ticking noise sometimes when the engine is cold. This ticking disappears when the engine is getting warm. I think it’s gone after 5 to 10 minutes.
I get a similar very subtle ticking/ringing, most pronounced under load from low revs, in my 2001 Yaris. Given the 1SZ-FE engine in this car was kind of the predecessor to the 1KR-FE and shares a lot its features, this makes sense. Although it does have an extra cylinder, which totally changes the engine note 🤣.
I have a 60 plate. 107. Great car like you say.. I use ya videos all time. Water leaks in boot sorted..disc and pads change. New back box replaced. Need to do anti roll bar links but not sure am confident enough to do that?
We got a c1 with that same anoying sound,i do hate it😅 we bought it with 90.000km. now at 170.000 km. Still the same sound. Nothing broke. Tried thicker oil,nothing helps. The only " bad" thing it consumes some oil!! 1 liter at 3000 km. Thats VAG style😅 Maybe a option to get rid of the thicking noise is to let the ignition tune at a good shop. Change the ignition timing? Thoughts 😊 Thanks for your vids, Greetz from the Netherlands ✌️🎉
Great information, I bought a Citroen c1 a few days ago... I really like the car but I've been really worried about the ticking noise when cold, my car still has has the noise when it's warmed up but it's much quieter than when cold! Is it okay that it still does slightly when warm??
The oil must be 15W40 if it is ok for your winter temp...and original oil filter. This is the way my noise gone. Peugeot 107 first owner. Noise start at about 50000 km. Then i change the oil viscosity to 15w40 noise gone and now car is 98000 km. On low milage car noise is from timng chain tensioner. This hidraulic tensioner dont like thin oils i think. On Citroen C1 there is service document about use 15W40 oil if winter temp is above - 10deg.
I describe it as a warbling noise as if a little bird 🐦 is under the bonnet. It's quite a pleasant sound but only usually get it from cold uphill. The exhaust rattle is more through lower gears. Its fun whizzing round in second and third. Interesting you were a Honda mechanic. My other car is a Jazz. Both great cars. C1 and Jazz.
Omg so glad iv seen this video I just thought it was my car didnt think that’s how it was ment to sound lol as changed oils spark plug and everything but still sounded like it so glad I know why as my partner says it’s sounds like a lawnmower lol it’s my first car
199,250 miles on mine (original engine!). Mine is making this noise since I last changed its oil and filter. Hoping to reach 200,000. Amazing for a little 3 cylinder engine..
I have 2 Aygo. First, for my daughter but the engine is so cool (90Km/h in 2nd, 140 in 3rd & more than 170km/h in 4th) than i decide to buy one for me ! But one my daughter's Aygo make this noise when cold. Next time, i'll trying Shell V power to see. Thanks for your video !
90% of the time you are correct. If oil is not changed often enough the bottom end will go and you will notice emissions problems and a probe will give you loud bottom end noise. I know because my Aygo now needs bottom end work [ assuming Toyota OK every engine sensor ]
You need to replace oil yearly and check the levels weekly, Charles Trent Salvage have loads of engines around £200 they will deliver Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠
@@aaanton11 Warks is doable, I'm Cambs and have until Nov 3 to get the 'emmisions' under control. I am going to fork out for Toyota to diagnose, I really like my nugget ;-) PS Thanks🙏
I noticed it on mine usually when the engine is cold, I always thought it was injector tick because you can only hear it when you're using the injectors, once your take your foot off the throttle the noise disappears. My partner's stepdad tried telling me it was a worn camshaft but surely that wouldn't be effected by the throttle position. Which is why I thought it might be injector tick.
When do the timing chains need doing on these mines got a slight vibrate on idle and same thing test drive it it was fine next morning tap tap tap mines on 112k
Than you for this! really took my mind off of it... I intend doing a rebuild of the engine (174.655 Km) because I have a sense of power loss since the days I picked it up (around 84.000ish).
It's hard to sense something this car doesn't have (power) xD. Sometimes I feel like mines slower but sometimes wonder if it's because on some days the traffic around you are trying to progress faster for what ever reason (maybe they just finished work and want to get home)
They all have the same distinctive sound, the aygo is still going strong with 175000 miles on the clock, it sounds identical to the 107 with 75000 miles on the clock, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
My car is a Yaris (2009) with a 1KR-FE engine onboard. In the first year after purchase it was not producing ticking noises. Also this car makes the described noise which is particularly loud in the first few seconds after starting. After about 5 seconds it already gets more quiet, but is still audible when accelerating with a cold engine which is unavoidable. With a warm engine it is audible under heavy load. The fact that it is loudest in the first few seconds after starting made me think that it has to do with oil pressure and perhaps conrod bearing issues, can that not be the case ? T.b.h., I was planning to have another engine put in because of the noise. What are recommendations to follow in the case of the mentioned piston slap ? Maybe use 0W30 instead of the prescribed 5W30 to get the oil quicker around when cold ?
Another update from my daughters Yaris, did 400 miles this week long journey, the cars computer indicated 72.2mpg. I filled it tank to tank and 63 mpg @ 110k miles. Faultless car 14 yrs old only non service part a back box. If I was blindfolded I would say it drives like a 30k car
My aygo has always been ticking like in the video, ever since I bought it (second hand) Quite a lot actually. Passengers noticed it. I recently brought it in for a service and afterwards the ticking is completely gone..?? Same type of oil as last time.
why might my aygo burning more oil, 2012 iv cleaned the pcv valve with carb cleaner and changed spark plugs but still burns oil, every 2 weeks im adding oil, there is no leaks whatsoever, i used for deliveries fast food, i have searched and found piston rings and worn valve seals, could be the culprit, can you confirm this is the case if so can you do a video on how to replace these, i cant find anything on youtube on these cars showing how to replace.. many many thanks in advance
@@aaanton11 using far more than that also iv seen no leaks visible so it’s burning in combustion chamber I think today iv put lucas oil seal in it and will see how I get on
Hello, my wife's 3 cylinder 2010 seat ibiza(timing chain, with hydraulic tensioner) also had a ticking/rattling noise, especially when it was cold. It became worse and at some point she had a damaged engine that she had to replace. the timing chain was broken and damaged the engine severely. So i think the tensioner got clogged/ couldn't put the right tension on the chain, whereas the chain jumped the cam/ snap/jam and cause the valves to hit the pistons. So i wouldn't just sit and wait for the noise to go away, i would run a cleaner, put in new/right grade oil. Regards
These are totally different engines, The Toyota unit is bomb proof. But there is a difference between a ticking sound and a big rattle, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I have a 59 plate Aygo with this engine, I find supermarket fuel makes the noise worse, (lower octane) it's like a pinking noise, I use Shell cheap petrol and it seems to make less noise, I also want to point out i was getting a huge amount of timing chain rattle, It was worse in winter, i always got my service kits from Toyota, They supplied the oil as 5W 30 non synthetic, After doing this for 7 or 8 years the timing chain noise got worse, I would service every 6 months, as i found carbon building up in the engine if i left it 1 year, Which meant the oil was saturated with carbon, carbon can block up your engine, i read the Toyota Aygo manual, it said something interesting, It said use 0W 20 fully synthetic oil, if you have nothing else use 5W 30, But only do it once and go back to 0W 20 for the next oil change, I use Petronas 0W 20 fully synthetic and the timing chain rattle disappeared straight away, As if the engine was being held back from working correctly with thicker oil, The timing chain tensioner has adjusters that use oil pressure i believe, The lesson, Read the manual, ignore what a Toyota main dealer parts purveyor tells you, And do the work on your own car with the correct specification parts, Paying a garage to do an oil change is silly, they will use cheap 5W 30 normal oil and cheap crappy filters, My Aygo is at 80,000 miles and it needed a new CV boot fitting, I found out a grease monkey had hit it with a hammer to get more work on the next MOT, I won't be using them again, this is the kind of garages we have to use, It is so easy to do an oil change yourself, so many videos or buy a Haynes manual, I am in the process of replacing my clutch on the Aygo after 11 years the pressure plate and release bearing have worn out, I bought a genuine Toyota clutch kit at about £400, garages will fit a "chocolate" clutch that might last 6 months to 3 years for £600 ish, My Toyota one is a Luk clutch and lasted 11 years, it hadn't failed, but was close to failing, The only issue i had was the lower wishbone needs a scissor type ball joint splitter to pop it off, If i can change a clutch which is a gearbox off job you can do an oil change. 💪
But on a C1 with 130,000 on the clock and no apparent service history that also uses oil (mostly burning it I suspect) is the ticking more of a concern? Would an oil additive help perhaps?
Don't bother with additives, just keep the oil level topped up it will go on forever, I look after an aygo that has over 250,000 miles on the clock still om the original engine, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I have a peugeot 107. I got it straightpiped/catback system. When i put it open... you can hear a loud ticking sound. Just as in the motor. Is this because of what you explained in this video?
I love my Aygo and I love this engine. Simple, economic and surprisingly powerful as I embarrassed few BMW's on the traffic lights already 🤣 especially 2nd gear. It's insane that it goes up to 65mph on 2nd gear and it's asking for more. I've done in my Aygo 50k in 18 months and now it has 125k on the clock. Oil and filters with no delay, brakes tyres and bulbs. That's what this car is asking for. Together with tiny request of petrol. Non stop on deliveries and I do 400 miles before it starts beeping and the last bar is flashing. Aygo ♥️♥️♥️
Great cars Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I was just about to tear down the engine to diagnose this same noise on my girlfriends car and possibly replace the timing chain and tensioner today. This video has just saved me a whole lot of work. I can't thank you enough. Great video!
Glad I could help, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I had a problem with the chain. It was hanging loose. . I flushed the engine with forte . . And the problem is gone.
I think the tensioner was stuck . Now the engine is clean inside everything works as it should be 👌👌
Bought my daughter a 1krfe yaris 9 yrs ago. Rattles when cold, dont like it but this makes me feel better. Done 80k now used your channel to change coolant, changed oil yearly, and filters when required. Changed front discs once and pads and shoes. Iridium plugs at 50k. It will happily cruise at 70 and regularly gives 55-60mpg on a true 5 seater with sliding back seat. If revved it is quite nippy. If not revved it has loads torque.
No other maintenance at all and drives as good as it did when i picked it up at 19k miles. Cannot think of better combination for a learner car or someone who wants cheap reliable motoring. Channels like this are superb. Thank you sir, i would never have found the water pump drain plug. And ticking noise explanation great. When i bought it toyota diagnosed the timing chain, that was 60k miles ago!! Indeed the college i worked at the motor vehicle teachers said the same when in fact it is not at all. Citroen family too small for me but yaris with same mechanicals roomy car with slightly bigger wheels and more comfortable ride. - just my pennysworth. Point is thanks for your expertise and sharing it. I do all my daughters and own cars and bikes for basic maintenance but this gives me total reassurance, can view and review and far easier than manusls. Your willingness to share is really appreciated and for people even less skilled than me, it is simple. Love the coil video too.
I love making the videos and the kind words you write make it all worth while, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
@@aaanton11 hi aanton, still loving the channel, love the peugeot van. Daughters car just done 100k. Had to clean pcv valve, throttle body, and map or maf sensor. Running beautifully still
Just bought a 2013 107 today - love the car, and reckoned the noise was normal for a 3 cyl engine, but had a slight niggling doubt. Thanks very much for your excellent explanation- so glad I found it on RUclips ! 👍
Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Big thumbs up from me anton 👍🏼 I bought my 107 beginning of November (private buy) I test drove it all sounded great. I started her up the next morning an wouldn’t u know tap tap tap tap I really did panic that I bought a dud. So I pop by my local garage and he said the same as anton an that my 107 was in great shape for it’s age an mileage. It’s how I found this channel looking for advice about this noise plus found some great advice about a small boot leak I had an fixed on my own ☺️ fantastic channel 🙌🏻
I like Mango too! Really appreciate your comments so nice to get positive feedback, Thanks Kia for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I have this sound even when im not accelerating , should i try to clean the sensor? . I am having this sound even on low gear going downhill. I didnt have this sound untill last oil changing . Im worrying this is the type of oil or something i did worng. What should i do?
Just bought a Peugeot 107, got worried I had piston slap or rod knock, but you've put my mind at ease. You should do a video with audio of the difference between these 3 noises as no one else has
Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Really helpful video. My Ex-wife said her 107 sounded tappy and when I drove it, it sounded almost diesel like from cold which now makes sense with the way you have explained these are designed to run. Thanks 👍
Glad it helped Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
My P107 from 2006 makes exactly the same noise, as long as it is not warmed up. The noise is louder at cold winter days than in summer, and it vanishes after a few kilometers driving, then it runs quite smooth.
Good to hear that it is nothing to worry about.
From another source I have read, that it is generally impossible or at least very difficult, to create any engine that is powerful, fuel efficient and really smooth running at the same time. So in the case of the 1kr-fe engine, a bit of harshness would be just a trade-off for its good fuel efficiency and its good torque in relation to its small displacement.
Thank you very much for your explaining!
Everything you say is very true, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Really appreciate your knowledgeable explanation to this noise. Love your videos, keep up the great work.
Much appreciated! Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Phew, I'm glad I watched your video. I've recently bought a 2008 107 with just 49000 on the clock and heard this ticking. Panic mode!
That's put my mind at rest thanks 😊
Glad it helped Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I got my 107 for service. I asked about that noise and they told me something about the valves and it costs a lot to repair. You just save me from that liars and thives . Thanks man
Thanks for the info, & Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
They would be suggesting valve clearances which are shims in these. Big job and should be done every 60k. Mine has 142k without it done so far
I have the same engine in my Toyota Yaris XP13 from 2013 and was wondering about that noise for a long time. Especially in the cold days, it takes a while until the noise disappears. After a long motorway run the noise is nearly gone. You can barely hear it when hitting 4000-5000rpm. What I also suspect is that the engine runs best on 0W20 oil, as it is the recommended oil from Toyota. My engine is running on 5W30 from Shell, which is a quite good oil. I will try a 0W20 with the next inspection.
Your explanation was spot on. Thanks for that!
Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠
How is it with the new oil?
1,5 year I drive my Aygo and worried about this sound. I visited many maintenance stations , including Toyota and they all told to visit doctor. And now my doctor is Anton !!! Problem is solved !!! Thanks 👍❤️🇺🇦
Thanks for the compliments & for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Thanks for this, thought I had a loose valve, but that is exactly what our C1 sounds like and behaves.
Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I bought an aygo about half a year ago and i couldn't place where this sound is comming from and whether it causes any damage.
Now after this video i am relieved that it doesn't deal any real damage to the engine. I can now also pick out the sound from these engines when i'm walking down the street and it's always a citybug of some kind.
All and all, great video and a great explanation of the ticking noise on my Aygo.
Cheers!
Thanks Daan for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
thankyou thankyou thankyou, that sound has been driving me nuts by not knowing what it is. But now, thanks to you, I can rest easy. cheers mate
You're welcome! Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
On the advice of a good mechanic, I got my engine oil hot and then did an oil change. This has cured my ticking noise for now.
Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Thanks for the explanation on this.
My wife’s C1 is making this sound and it’s just hit 26000 miles before I noticed it.
The ticking sound does go away after the engine has warmed up.
Your video has put my mind at rest regarding the health of the engine.
Thank you so much as I can now try to explain to my wife what the sound is and she will think I’m clever for working out what I noticed and she hadn’t lol.
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sounds like you might be on a promise 😂 Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Morning Ant....
This is why us subscriber's love ya channel.
A mind of information. Knowledge & well explained.
I'm beginning to like the "DINKY TOYS" too.
Great video as always. Fantastic range of subjects on the channel.
Stay safe. Stay healthy to yourself & the gang.
Alan L200
I cant see you trading the truck in for a bug 😂😂 although the new series 6 l200 looks a aggressive bit of kit Thanks Alan for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Thanks very much for that video. My dad's hung up his keys and given me his very shiny low mileage C1 to sell. I was very worried about the noise, being unfamiliar. The noise does indeed tail off a bit after warm up but never goes away. Now I can sell with confidence, this vid will be worth a good few quid to me. Thanks.
Glad I could help Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Anton, I have a 2006 Aygo and haven't noticed the ticking sound...but boy the engine sounds fantastic when accelerating in low gear. Love the growl!
Yes it does, both the 3 cylinder and 6 cylinder engines have a similar tone, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Another really helpful video dude. Just started to notice this on mine but as you've kindly pointed out, it's normal. You are a legend. Cheers!
Glad it helped Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
U are great, its been two days i thought, "whats that noise". Thank you, love your vids. Where to spend a beer to you?
Appreciate your support, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
i read somewhere that only the exhaust side is variable on valve timing,
i only use Shell, it sound horrible on other petrol station fuels, especially on supermarket fuel,
there must be a difference, touch wood at 88k nothing has gone bad with my Aygo,
regular oil changes have avoided any sludge build up in the engine, as these are built like swiss watches,
i bought it during scrappage in 2008 / 2009 brand new for £6k
Have a look how much they want now for them now new...
the new Aygo Compact Cross Over was £17k the last time i checked, dealerships are price gouging again.
and have found if you use supermarket fuel the Aygo will make far more noise than Shell fuel.
You grabbed a bargain, Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Thanks for that explanation of the ticking noise, I've just taken my daughters C1 to the shops when I heard a ticking sound...... Then I thought..... Oh noooo, what's that. You have suitably reassured me.
Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Dude thank you ❤❤, recently just got a 2013 C1 120K on the clock. Drove to work this morning early (0500) and haven’t used it once in the cold etc. I was worried she was done but everything you’ve pointed out makes sense and does what she’s doing. It got less noisy as I got into the trip and tonight same home. So happy it’s a feature and just gotta use to of it. Plus too use to the BMW 8 did have. Thank you again dude. Too info and great demo, explanation.
Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I let my bug warm up if I can before I leave work for home. I'd always thought it was just noise from the cam followers when the engine was cold.
Thanks for the explanation.
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Brilliant explanation, I've just bought 2013 for my son, and was wondering why it sounded strange., I'll share this with him.
😊
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Brilliant , I always thought it was like a valve tappet noise , but I've heard it on many kr1fe engines so I just assumed it was normal 👍👍
Yes, exactly, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Glad I watched this, just noticed mine doing this over 3000 rpm yesterday, or more prominent anyway. Only has 23k on the clock as well but has been sat around a bit, thought it was pinging and something was up, glad to hear its normal!
Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I always wondered about that, so thanks for clearing that up in great detail.
Glad to help! Thanks Tahir for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I have ordered for today,if is any difference i will write on the wall. Thank you very much for your clips
Very informative video. You deserve more subs Anton.
Working on it! Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Brilliant thank you, i actually thought mine was slightly loose auxiliary belt due to the chirpy squealing noise, it sounds identical to yours thanks for great info 👍
Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Excellent explanation for my 2006 Toyota Vitz with 1KRFE engine. Other wise this 1L engine is very good on gas consumption
Its an amazing engine, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Hi Anton, very interesting video indeed. Someone did tell me that adjusting the valve clearances helps but its apparently a very tricky thing to do on these cars. I have an 07 Aygo on 191600 miles and as it got to over 100k it stated using oil (about a litre every 2k miles) I changed the PCV valve and I haven't used any oil for last 1500 miles and improved my mpg from averaging 54mpg to 59.9mpg (tested over about a 1000 miles) It could be an interesting little video for you to make?? I had to buy the part from Japan as I couldn't locate one in UK. Keep up the great videos mate.
Thanks Colin for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠
@@aaanton11 If you are at all interested I have a FB page for these cars I would be honoured if you would like to join The Bug 3 Zone (Toyota Aygo/Citroen C1/Peugeot 107/108) and promote your videos there Regards - Colin
Does yours make the noise too colin Saunders?
@@planesailing6919 Only for a couple of minutes until warm...on 195680 miles now
@@MrEnigma64 they’re an impressive engine.
I’ve only just bought mine as a temp vehicle. It’s done 165k miles. It sounds horrible when it’s cold, but once warmed up it sounds fine. I don’t think it’s been serviced as often as it should’ve been, but it goes well for what it is and seems to sip fuel compared to my Golf Gti 😄
Thanks for this video, I’ve just bought a 107 and it’s making this exact noise! I was so worried it was a stretched timing chain or worse. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I had a Volvo....so that was noiseless even after 26 years... this ticking @P107/ that I have now/ is a little bit annoying me 🤔🥴
My Mk5 Mondeo 2.0 diesel ticks on cold start until the engine reaches temperature, sounds like lifters, really annoying and everyone who hears it, straight away ask what's wrong with your car 😂 the dealership I purchased the car from has always said this is normal and I've always argued it's not, I've already been confused how a modern car with only 50k miles can sound so crap and you have just answered it, thanks mate this video has been really helpful
The mondeo diesels are renowned for being noisy, it is normal, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I've put a couple of videos on my channel to show this noise I'm having, unfortunately my curiosity gets the better of me 😂 it would be awesome if you could have a listen to let me know if this is as you explain in your video, there are no obvious problems with the car just a ticking noise.
Thanks again
Great video mate . Low oil ! I think i cant get clear reading on my dip-stick ! As soon has I hear that ticking clanking sounds I full her up and it gos always ! I ran my 1st car out off oil so I can tell Thanks for your videos
sound like a game of Russian roulette 😂 Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I have the same engine in my Yaris. My mechanic told me that the sound is very normal in this engine. After I watch your video I became totally relieved!! Thank you!
Good to hear Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
So glad I found this channel, recently picked up an aygo ice blue, great little car, since its got a lot colder its definitely noisy and worried me till I seen your videos, less so now as a good run really helps it, would love to know if you have a video up for some plastic trim around the radiator, as I've a broken piece on the side that I assume is creating a tapping noise when driving above 35mph, the number has taken a small hit somewhere in its time but had no cat against it and I paid a decent price for it, rev counter is next but I can't seem to get a good price and I've a leak on the left side of the inner boot, I assume is probably the rear light. Thanks for the videos and hopefully you have an answer to the loose plastic behind the bumper
The loose plastic can normally be drilled and cable tied together, the rev counters are always for sale on the city bug Facebook group, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I also experience differences with different oil levels. When it's near the maximum level, it's noticeably less than if it's halfway (or one-thirds) between min and max. I always assumed that whenever it's between min and max it should be fine, regardless of ticking.
However, when I found out the difference between min and max is 1,5 lt (according to owners manual) instead of 1 lt on a total volume of 3,1 l, I check it a bit more often as it means that the oil quality degrades quicker than with other cars as the content percentage of pollutants probably will be more significant than with cars having larger oil volumes.
Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Great video and explanation.👍 I have just bought a C1 as a daily drive. Sounds very different to my Impreza STI.
😂 but uses is a lot less fuel ⛽️ Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Thank you for taking time to explain that important thing
Glad it was helpful!, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Dimitri, Athens, Greece. about a month ago l bought a second hand 2012 citroen c1 1.0 68 hp. with 91200 km clocked which had been imported from Germany. lt was tested by a friend mechanic but it was hot and we had the windows down and didn't notice the ticking sound. Once l drove it, the ticking sound would appear when accelerating and above 1700 revs and initially l thought that it was "pinking" noise from bad petrol. l used this petrol and then filled it up with 100 octane petrol. Nothing changed so at the next fill-up l added a little bottle of Redex, engine and injector cleaner ( l think it was 90 ml ) and left for a short trip of about 350 km. and then started using it again in the city. After doing another 100 km and 3 of 6 tank bars down, l then noticed that the ticking had been reduced considerably. lf the noise was rated a 10 level, it now was down to about 3 to 4. Doing another 100 km and accelerating normally in the city, no noise is heard at all. l floor and accelerate now hard and maybe you hear a 1 or 2 level compared to the initial 10 level of ticking. L searched the internet on engine and injector cleaners and they say that it takes a while and after about 500 to 600 km for the additive to do its job. l wonder if this is all that had to be done to get rid of the ticking noise. i initially had changed the engine oil from regular to synthetic just in case the cylinders weren't oiled well and was the culprit of this piston slap but nothing happened. Reading on the internet, they say that Lucus engine and injector cleaner is the top cleaner and if l can find it, l intend to give a try once l use all the current gasoline in my tank. l can only think that there was dirt or carbon deposits in the injectors which gave maybe a one sided "spray" and after combustion, it gave a not even push but rather a one sided push to the piston and likewise, a side push to the piston which in turn created the piston slap. Since l'm not a mechanic l'd appreciate your thoughts. Kind Regards from Athens, Greece.
additives can always make a difference, it will also alter the burn, the flame front on the piston, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I have owned 2 low mileage 1KR-FE engines, both made the noise when cold. Once engine more than another, I just went easy with the throttle until warm (and the pistons have expanded slightly).
Thanks for sharing, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
@@aaanton11 Wasn't expecting a Reply! Thank you for taking the time. All the best Anton
So if you're arguing it's the feature of this engine, then any aygo running off the production facility would have piston slap? With ours I THINK it started this noise approx. 10/15.000km ago, or I never noticed it before. Apart from the start it disappears within minutes though after getting hot and still runs smoothly after 170.000 km.
Here in the Netherlands I read threads where engines are replaced under warranty over this, or that it is at least a defect causing piston/bore wear resulting in e.g. high oil usage. So you're positive it isn't?
It at least seems by the many accounts of people it's quite common and the aygo can get old with it.
But yeah, I'm about to sell it and it's not really a USP when a buyer hears it. Perhaps I should refer your link.
They are all the same and it’s a fantastic engine Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
This is crazy. I have a Subaru Justy IV with the 1KR-FE engine and it does tick only when I accelerate under load and it’s the loudest at 2k RPM and it goes away or become more silent when it gets up to temp. I was wondering why it does that and I was suspecting the timing chain being worn out and/or the clutch or transmission…so this video was really useful for me😁
Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Same here lol!
Loud at acceleration and deceleration at about 2200 to 2500 RPM.
Gets better after warmed up.
160.000 km.
Took me 2 weeks to find someone with the same "Problem". Thanks for sharing!
Another valuable video. That's it, you can listen a bug coming listening to engine sound :D.
Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Great video I was worrying about this as the noise does change also I found using super unleaded petrol it's getting better MPG . Thanks I can hold off on the garage visit 👍🏻
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Absolutely brilliant video, great explanation and just a fountain of knowledge. Didn't even know about pinking so everyday is a school day 😂
Glad you enjoyed it! hope yours is still sounding superb with the sportex hanging of the back, Hope you and yours are all well, Thanks Derek for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Great video i thought id bought a lemon i have bought a 60 plate c1 and when engine is cold its very ticky under load it does quieten down ince ive driven for 5 mins or so but never completely goes away ,i have peace of mind now knowing its normal ,THANK YOU
Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I have a Yaris with this 1KR-FE engine, had a friend of mine who's a seasoned mechanic point me to this video when i asked him about that sound. Have heard it from the moment i brought it home from the dealer.
Thanks Walter for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Thank you so much very interesting, I have a Citroen C1 love it but has this little tick tick noise you have put my mind a rest it’s not a massive problem thank you 😊
Glad it helped, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Could anybody tell me does Citroen c1 have a timing belt or. Timing chain 2007
Thank you for sharing your expertise with us. What about the exhaust manifold noise on the Toyota Aygo could it be a major issue?
They can crack, not a major issue just removal and weld or replace, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Wow thank you so much for this info.... Does the type of oil have anything to do with this ? I'm using Kroon Oil 0W30 with the thought that thinner oil at start will lubricate faster.
Oils definitely make a difference, some have used 10w 40 with good results, but I stick to the 5w 30, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
63 107 active at 95K here, was worried my rings were going as it's quite bad sometimes but glad it's nothing to worry about
Plenty of life left in the Bug, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
@@aaanton11 question,. My clutch biting point is always high, standard for these little cars, but from time to time the clutch false bites much lower down, kinda like it bites a little and then stops until I get to the regular biting point, any ideas? Clutch sticking and on its way out maybe?
Thank you very much for explaining this! My 107 also makes a ticking noise sometimes when the engine is cold. This ticking disappears when the engine is getting warm. I think it’s gone after 5 to 10 minutes.
I moan a bit more when its cold, she is just talking to you😂 Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
@@aaanton11 😂😂
I get a similar very subtle ticking/ringing, most pronounced under load from low revs, in my 2001 Yaris. Given the 1SZ-FE engine in this car was kind of the predecessor to the 1KR-FE and shares a lot its features, this makes sense. Although it does have an extra cylinder, which totally changes the engine note 🤣.
😂 great engine Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Great great explanation man, great video, always follow you.
Ciao from italy✌🏼
Glad you like them! Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
This is brilliant, thank you - very insightful, expert technical knowledge!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Now I know what it is thanks for the info, I will just let her warm up a bit, nice one thanks.👍
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I have a 60 plate. 107. Great car like you say.. I use ya videos all time. Water leaks in boot sorted..disc and pads change. New back box replaced. Need to do anti roll bar links but not sure am confident enough to do that?
Generally it’s a nice easy fix just a case of un doing the bolts, holding the centre if it swivels with a Allen key Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I needed this!
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thanks getting one of these cars (Aygo) you have put my Mind at rest 😁
Good choice! Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
We got a c1 with that same anoying sound,i do hate it😅 we bought it with 90.000km. now at 170.000 km. Still the same sound. Nothing broke. Tried thicker oil,nothing helps. The only " bad" thing it consumes some oil!! 1 liter at 3000 km. Thats VAG style😅 Maybe a option to get rid of the thicking noise is to let the ignition tune at a good shop. Change the ignition timing? Thoughts 😊 Thanks for your vids, Greetz from the Netherlands ✌️🎉
I quite like the engine tone, the 3 cylinder has traces of a 6 cylinder under load, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Thanks for this video, noticed my girlfriends car was making this noise and thought it might have been the chain. Good to know it's intentional!
Glad to help Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Great information, I bought a Citroen c1 a few days ago... I really like the car but I've been really worried about the ticking noise when cold, my car still has has the noise when it's warmed up but it's much quieter than when cold! Is it okay that it still does slightly when warm??
yes its fine, just regularly check the engine oil level, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
@@aaanton11 Thanks for getting back to me, I really appreciate it! I'll keep and eye on the oil level 👍
@@aaanton11 sorry to bother you again!! So I'm using about 3/4 of a litre of oil every 1k miles is that okay? Maybe a bit less than that. Cheers.
Toyota yaris 1 litre has this engine and the description fits perfectly.
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Oh great thank you put my mind at ease I was panicking as just bought a Toyota Aygo 2008
Glad I could help, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Thanks Anton. Just bought a secondhand C1 and that's put my mind at rest.
Glad I could help! Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Thanks for that, really useful I was wondering about the sound.
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very explanatory and helpful! good luck!
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The oil must be 15W40 if it is ok for your winter temp...and original oil filter. This is the way my noise gone. Peugeot 107 first owner. Noise start at about 50000 km. Then i change the oil viscosity to 15w40 noise gone and now car is 98000 km. On low milage car noise is from timng chain tensioner. This hidraulic tensioner dont like thin oils i think.
On Citroen C1 there is service document about use 15W40 oil if winter temp is above - 10deg.
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Good explanation, thanks. Also says why they use a bit of oil when they get older.
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Thanks for explaining that. I was worried that maybe there was a serious problem with the little engine.
No problem, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I describe it as a warbling noise as if a little bird 🐦 is under the bonnet. It's quite a pleasant sound but only usually get it from cold uphill. The exhaust rattle is more through lower gears. Its fun whizzing round in second and third. Interesting you were a Honda mechanic. My other car is a Jazz. Both great cars. C1 and Jazz.
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I'm very grateful for this, thank you 💖
You're so welcome! Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Omg so glad iv seen this video I just thought it was my car didnt think that’s how it was ment to sound lol as changed oils spark plug and everything but still sounded like it so glad I know why as my partner says it’s sounds like a lawnmower lol it’s my first car
As long as its got oil in the engine they will run forever!! enjoy a cracking little car, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Yeah it’s definitely got oil init xx
Thanks for the explanation. Would gasoline e5 will make it less instead of e10. What is beter for these engines e5 or cna i stil use e10
just go with the cheapest fuel, keep your money in your pocket, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
199,250 miles on mine (original engine!). Mine is making this noise since I last changed its oil and filter. Hoping to reach 200,000. Amazing for a little 3 cylinder engine..
You can do it! Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I do not understand English well but I understood everything he said . ευχαριστώ !
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I have 2 Aygo. First, for my daughter but the engine is so cool (90Km/h in 2nd, 140 in 3rd & more than 170km/h in 4th) than i decide to buy one for me !
But one my daughter's Aygo make this noise when cold. Next time, i'll trying Shell V power to see.
Thanks for your video !
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Thankyou so much for the explanation. My car also has this sound and its nice to know that i dont have to worry.
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Nice explanation, thanx from Holland:)
You are welcome! Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
90% of the time you are correct.
If oil is not changed often enough the bottom end will go and you will notice emissions problems and a probe will give you loud bottom end noise.
I know because my Aygo now needs bottom end work [ assuming Toyota OK every engine sensor ]
You need to replace oil yearly and check the levels weekly, Charles Trent Salvage have loads of engines around £200 they will deliver Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠
@@aaanton11 Warks is doable, I'm Cambs and have until Nov 3 to get the 'emmisions' under control.
I am going to fork out for Toyota to diagnose, I really like my nugget ;-)
PS Thanks🙏
I noticed it on mine usually when the engine is cold, I always thought it was injector tick because you can only hear it when you're using the injectors, once your take your foot off the throttle the noise disappears. My partner's stepdad tried telling me it was a worn camshaft but surely that wouldn't be effected by the throttle position. Which is why I thought it might be injector tick.
These engines are really reliable I have never seen a camshaft wear, Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I was told it was a timing chain or belt. Either one but I thought oh no, expensive repair. Seems ok tho.
When do the timing chains need doing on these mines got a slight vibrate on idle and same thing test drive it it was fine next morning tap tap tap mines on 112k
You wont need to replace it, just keep the oil good and well and it will last, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Than you for this! really took my mind off of it... I intend doing a rebuild of the engine (174.655 Km) because I have a sense of power loss since the days I picked it up (around 84.000ish).
These run forever, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
It's hard to sense something this car doesn't have (power) xD. Sometimes I feel like mines slower but sometimes wonder if it's because on some days the traffic around you are trying to progress faster for what ever reason (maybe they just finished work and want to get home)
anton have all of yours done it the same ? low mileage /high mileage etc
They all have the same distinctive sound, the aygo is still going strong with 175000 miles on the clock, it sounds identical to the 107 with 75000 miles on the clock, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
@@aaanton11 what about one with 22k on the clock?
My car is a Yaris (2009) with a 1KR-FE engine onboard. In the first year after purchase it was not producing ticking noises.
Also this car makes the described noise which is particularly loud in the first few seconds after starting. After about 5 seconds it already gets more quiet, but is still audible when accelerating with a cold engine which is unavoidable.
With a warm engine it is audible under heavy load.
The fact that it is loudest in the first few seconds after starting made me think that it has to do with oil pressure and perhaps conrod bearing issues, can that not be the case ? T.b.h., I was planning to have another engine put in because of the noise.
What are recommendations to follow in the case of the mentioned piston slap ? Maybe use 0W30 instead of the prescribed 5W30 to get the oil quicker around when cold ?
Don't worry about it, they just sound this way, You can use different oils some have had success. Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Another update from my daughters Yaris, did 400 miles this week long journey, the cars computer indicated 72.2mpg. I filled it tank to tank and 63 mpg @ 110k miles. Faultless car 14 yrs old only non service part a back box. If I was blindfolded I would say it drives like a 30k car
Cracking little cars Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
My aygo has always been ticking like in the video, ever since I bought it (second hand) Quite a lot actually. Passengers noticed it.
I recently brought it in for a service and afterwards the ticking is completely gone..?? Same type of oil as last time.
Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I also noticed this after a service, but the ticking returned after some time. Also, it only ticks when the engine is cold.
why might my aygo burning more oil, 2012 iv cleaned the pcv valve with carb cleaner and changed spark plugs but still burns oil, every 2 weeks im adding oil, there is no leaks whatsoever, i used for deliveries fast food,
i have searched and found piston rings and worn valve seals, could be the culprit, can you confirm this is the case if so can you do a video on how to replace these, i cant find anything on youtube on these cars showing how to replace.. many many thanks in advance
These engines can use 1litre of oil per 1000 miles, are you using more than that? Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
@@aaanton11 using far more than that also iv seen no leaks visible so it’s burning in combustion chamber I think today iv put lucas oil seal in it and will see how I get on
@@thisnthat6972 Any updates?
Very useful and reassuring thank you!
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Hello, my wife's 3 cylinder 2010 seat ibiza(timing chain, with hydraulic tensioner) also had a ticking/rattling noise, especially when it was cold. It became worse and at some point she had a damaged engine that she had to replace. the timing chain was broken and damaged the engine severely. So i think the tensioner got clogged/ couldn't put the right tension on the chain, whereas the chain jumped the cam/ snap/jam and cause the valves to hit the pistons. So i wouldn't just sit and wait for the noise to go away, i would run a cleaner, put in new/right grade oil. Regards
These are totally different engines, The Toyota unit is bomb proof. But there is a difference between a ticking sound and a big rattle, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I have a 59 plate Aygo with this engine,
I find supermarket fuel makes the noise worse, (lower octane) it's like a pinking noise,
I use Shell cheap petrol and it seems to make less noise,
I also want to point out i was getting a huge amount of timing chain rattle,
It was worse in winter, i always got my service kits from Toyota,
They supplied the oil as 5W 30 non synthetic,
After doing this for 7 or 8 years the timing chain noise got worse,
I would service every 6 months, as i found carbon building up in the engine if i left it 1 year,
Which meant the oil was saturated with carbon, carbon can block up your engine,
i read the Toyota Aygo manual, it said something interesting,
It said use 0W 20 fully synthetic oil, if you have nothing else use 5W 30,
But only do it once and go back to 0W 20 for the next oil change,
I use Petronas 0W 20 fully synthetic and the timing chain rattle disappeared straight away,
As if the engine was being held back from working correctly with thicker oil,
The timing chain tensioner has adjusters that use oil pressure i believe,
The lesson,
Read the manual, ignore what a Toyota main dealer parts purveyor tells you,
And do the work on your own car with the correct specification parts,
Paying a garage to do an oil change is silly, they will use cheap 5W 30 normal oil and cheap crappy filters,
My Aygo is at 80,000 miles and it needed a new CV boot fitting,
I found out a grease monkey had hit it with a hammer to get more work on the next MOT,
I won't be using them again, this is the kind of garages we have to use,
It is so easy to do an oil change yourself, so many videos or buy a Haynes manual,
I am in the process of replacing my clutch on the Aygo after 11 years the pressure plate and release bearing have worn out,
I bought a genuine Toyota clutch kit at about £400, garages will fit a "chocolate" clutch that might last 6 months to 3 years for £600 ish,
My Toyota one is a Luk clutch and lasted 11 years, it hadn't failed, but was close to failing,
The only issue i had was the lower wishbone needs a scissor type ball joint splitter to pop it off,
If i can change a clutch which is a gearbox off job you can do an oil change. 💪
I have a couple of clutch replacement videos you can have a laugh at there is a AYGO one and a citroen C1 Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Very useful explanation thanks.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
Sir you are the aygo master.😂
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But on a C1 with 130,000 on the clock and no apparent service history that also uses oil (mostly burning it I suspect) is the ticking more of a concern? Would an oil additive help perhaps?
Don't bother with additives, just keep the oil level topped up it will go on forever, I look after an aygo that has over 250,000 miles on the clock still om the original engine, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠
I have a peugeot 107. I got it straightpiped/catback system. When i put it open... you can hear a loud ticking sound. Just as in the motor. Is this because of what you explained in this video?
difficult to say without hearing it , Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠