When I was in my early teens (now almost 80) I saw in a brass instrument factory the spinning of the bells for all types of band instruments. (Trombones, trumpets, etc.) The people who did this worked for years to gain the necessary skills you used in the spinning process. That is a incredible job you did in the video, not to mention you built the mandrel you made to form the bells. This is an example of why I watch all of your videos.
I could watch metal spinning all day long. Something very mesmerizing about how the metal just conforms to the shape of the pattern. You make it look easy. I imagine it takes quite a while to get as good as you are now, in order to get the metal to move where you want it to go. The camera shots, and angles seem just right, to let us see what is happening to the brass disk.
Supper nice people, I have had over the years friends and family work for them and they do amazing work from landing lights for airports to hand blown vases.
Just what I have been waiting for. When you started out making videos, I hoped that sometime you would make some buggy lamps just like my 1909 IHC Auto Buggy has on it. They are Dietz Dainty and look very similar to what you are doing now. Looking forward to seeing what comes next. Thanks.
Shame about the gentleman retiring, but i guess he earned it. That's beautifully crafted glass, even through a camera, that much is apparent. Hope you can find someone to retake that order for you. That being said, gorgeous lamp, classically correct as a tea kettle too. :)
I looked into spinning 20 years ago. I wanted to get into it. The tools were easily available because back then we yuppies had more cash to spend. If only I could get that earning back again. But it turns out (pun intended) that I could not generate the number of projects to justify it. Still is nice to see a master. If you want to see failure, check out This Old Tony. He tried to spin a lamp reflector out of aluminum. I'm not sure if he used the proper tools or not.
There is just something about watching a flat metal disc turn into a many curved shape that amazes me. Could you direct us to the different machines to used: the circle cutter and hole punch in particular, they are both incredible tools. Looking forward to the next video
I make and restore stained glass, and the problem of finding strange, out of production glass is a constant problem. Keep searching the internet as somewhere , someone is still making what you want. I live in Sydney, Australia and we have our custom bevels made in Perth, which is 1000s of kms away on the west coast. We buy internationally even though sometimes the shipping vastly exceeds the value of the goods. Just pass the cost back onto the customer. Alternatively, if you can standardise the shapes and convex dimensions, you use to only a few sizes, then a small production run could be feasible. I feel your pain Rick.
I was amazed at the use of a steel hammer on the castings. My guess would have been fear of putting in dents from the steel and thought I would have seem a brass hammer used.
This is no normal work this is art, a peace of work that dies every day a bit. I hope this art will never die at al. We need this for the future. This is part of history, our roots.
@@horacerumpole6912 No, this is really a special art. Craft is the base the know-how is the art. When you were once in a learn contract for 4 years you would know that.
@@horacerumpole6912 you can't understand it. You need an real open mind to see what i see. I have seen things in my life what you will never see, believe mee. And with that it is an ART what he is doing with his hands. See and learn what art really means.
@@mikeunum Who filled your head with this nonsense?? this is NOT art, it's spinning and soldering-which is craft, which I do! You do a great disservice to real artists and craftspeople by mis-labeling them. I DARE you to ask either of the Engels which they are…
Rick, I certainly hope that you find a new source for the custom lenses for these lamps! Also, your foundry ought to be able to use a (finer?) facing sand to give a much smoother as-cast surface, which would reduce your time & cost to buff the castings to the point where you can use them.
Sad about the glass supplier retiring. Another speciality craftsman lost to the world. As a custom knifemaker myself, a 2" belt-grinder would do a better and quicker job on shaping those brass/bronze castings. Also better for getting into those tight corners for cleaning up the roughness.
Im working on a old tram from 1899 in Oslo. It has been som frontlamp on the tram but i have not seen any pictures of the tram with a lamp. Do you have some idea of what it might have been? I think the driver used to bring it from the one end to the other and i dont think it was an electric lamp.
What are the dimensions of the final lense I have been following glass slumping artisans for years I'll check around and see if it is something that they would be willing to do
@@horacerumpole6912 you can do dozens or scores...as long as there is adequate room for the parts to "tumble" and sufficient polishing media. search for tumbling brass
Beautiful work. I wondering; since your glass maker is retiring, would he not give you the press form pair he uses to make the lenses? Unless he sold his business he has no further use for them. Doesn't sound like he sold it. If not you could probably get a machinist to reproduce the mold pair for you, perhaps another RUclips creator. Then anyone who makes glass could produce your lenses.
The bent glass is made by "slumping" in a kiln. It takes years of experience know how to slump glass into a mold and come out with uniform thickness and smooth surface. Round convex bevels can be cut out of blown glass balls, again the difficulty is in producing uniform pieces. It requires special talent.
I find metal spinning so intriguing. Thanks for sharing your talent with us. If you don't mind my asking, what kind of lube were you using. I presume it wasn't bar soap.
19:27 How easy would it be to slice your finger off on the edge of that brass if you weren't paying attention or lost focus? Seems like even the thickest gloves wouldn't save you.
Yes, it would be easy to cut yourself when spinning, have to keep focused when spinning. The gloves actually help with occasionally spreading lube and protecting your hands when a thin cut off goes wild. I've had several bruises instead of bad cuts thanks to the gloves.
10:44 I'll suggest a little quality improvement, could You convert said dimmensions to metric units and maybe place them somewhere on the screen for a reference next time? It's not hard for us to eyeball thickness or recall values by which we should rescale from imperial system, but having it ready is convenient.
Your video production skills have improved so much in 7 months. You are a professional. Thank you.
OMG that lamp is gorgeous! It's a "MANS LAMP". heavy, sturdy, and polished so much it puts mirrors to shame.
When I was in my early teens (now almost 80) I saw in a brass instrument factory the spinning of the bells for all types of band instruments. (Trombones, trumpets, etc.) The people who did this worked for years to gain the necessary skills you used in the spinning process. That is a incredible job you did in the video, not to mention you built the mandrel you made to form the bells. This is an example of why I watch all of your videos.
I could watch metal spinning all day long. Something very mesmerizing about how the metal just conforms to the shape of the pattern. You make it look easy. I imagine it takes quite a while to get as good as you are now, in order to get the metal to move where you want it to go. The camera shots, and angles seem just right, to let us see what is happening to the brass disk.
The circle cutter is my new favorite thing...
Supper nice people, I have had over the years friends and family work for them and they do amazing work from landing lights for airports to hand blown vases.
Really enjoyable watching a craftsman at work, even with an oops or so along the way.
Excellent detailed close ups, thanks for great vid
Thanks for sharing with us Rick. 👍👍👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Just what I have been waiting for. When you started out making videos, I hoped that sometime you would make some buggy lamps just like my 1909 IHC Auto Buggy has on it. They are Dietz Dainty and look very similar to what you are doing now. Looking forward to seeing what comes next. Thanks.
I am always amazed at your craftsmanship. Thanks for sharing,
Shame about the gentleman retiring, but i guess he earned it. That's beautifully crafted glass, even through a camera, that much is apparent. Hope you can find someone to retake that order for you.
That being said, gorgeous lamp, classically correct as a tea kettle too. :)
Spinning brass is cool! Nuff said. 😎
Thanks for sharing!
Sir, you are a hellva craftsman, I really enjoy your work and I learn a lot at the same time!!
Beautiful lamps.
All that small metal bending in the brake,brass and steel, inspired to do this or attempt myself
Facinating Quality Work....Thank You So Much For Taking The Time To Share Your Skill...
This looks to bee an exclusive lamp and it is gorgeous.
I looked into spinning 20 years ago. I wanted to get into it. The tools were easily available because back then we yuppies had more cash to spend. If only I could get that earning back again. But it turns out (pun intended) that I could not generate the number of projects to justify it. Still is nice to see a master. If you want to see failure, check out This Old Tony. He tried to spin a lamp reflector out of aluminum. I'm not sure if he used the proper tools or not.
Thanks Rick
Those things should be signed and numbered like a collectible art piece, because well, thats what they are!
This work is not art, it's craft-
There is just something about watching a flat metal disc turn into a many curved shape that amazes me. Could you direct us to the different machines to used: the circle cutter and hole punch in particular, they are both incredible tools. Looking forward to the next video
I make and restore stained glass, and the problem of finding strange, out of production glass is a constant problem. Keep searching the internet as somewhere , someone is still making what you want. I live in Sydney, Australia and we have our custom bevels made in Perth, which is 1000s of kms away on the west coast. We buy internationally even though sometimes the shipping vastly exceeds the value of the goods. Just pass the cost back onto the customer. Alternatively, if you can standardise the shapes and convex dimensions, you use to only a few sizes, then a small production run could be feasible. I feel your pain Rick.
I was amazed at the use of a steel hammer on the castings. My guess would have been fear of putting in dents from the steel and thought I would have seem a brass hammer used.
Dang, Rick! You need to pick up your production a bit to keep up with Pat's output. Great teamwork from a great team! Keep up the super work!
Amazing
Blows me away how a flat sheet of metal can be spun into an ornate piece and then come up with a lamp.
This is no normal work this is art, a peace of work that dies every day a bit. I hope this art will never die at al. We need this for the future. This is part of history, our roots.
It's not art, it's craft-
@@horacerumpole6912 No, this is really a special art. Craft is the base the know-how is the art. When you were once in a learn contract for 4 years you would know that.
@@mikeunum No, it isnt-overlooking you puerile tone (you must be a millenial) I will simplify this: Ask Mr. Engel if he is an artist, or, a craftsman-
@@horacerumpole6912 you can't understand it. You need an real open mind to see what i see. I have seen things in my life what you will never see, believe mee. And with that it is an ART what he is doing with his hands. See and learn what art really means.
@@mikeunum Who filled your head with this nonsense?? this is NOT art, it's spinning and soldering-which is craft, which I do! You do a great disservice to real artists and craftspeople by mis-labeling them. I DARE you to ask either of the Engels which they are…
Rick, I certainly hope that you find a new source for the custom lenses for these lamps! Also, your foundry ought to be able to use a (finer?) facing sand to give a much smoother as-cast surface, which would reduce your time & cost to buff the castings to the point where you can use them.
Superb design and craftsmanship..
Look like great lamps,do you make the mounts and hangers also?
Sad about the glass supplier retiring. Another speciality craftsman lost to the world.
As a custom knifemaker myself, a 2" belt-grinder would do a better and quicker job on shaping those brass/bronze castings. Also better for getting into those tight corners for cleaning up the roughness.
i was thinking the same thing about the belt grinder.
I was thinking about a 20" disk sander. LOL
Recently bought one! Thanks for watching.
Where did you find all the heavy machinery specialized for this type of work? Millersburg Ohio! Small world, I live about 35 min from there.
Im working on a old tram from 1899 in Oslo. It has been som frontlamp on the tram but i have not seen any pictures of the tram with a lamp. Do you have some idea of what it might have been? I think the driver used to bring it from the one end to the other and i dont think it was an electric lamp.
What are the dimensions of the final lense
I have been following glass slumping artisans for years I'll check around and see if it is something that they would be willing to do
👍👍
Morning Mr rick... 😁
Can you polish the brass castings in a tumbler with walnut shells and rouge? I have done MANY shell casings this way
what do you think would happen if you tumbled more than one…
@@horacerumpole6912 you can do dozens or scores...as long as there is adequate room for the parts to "tumble" and sufficient polishing media.
search for tumbling brass
@@barrywinters1142 these parts do not tumble like cartridge brass-
Gilinders Glass in Port Jervis NY.
This Gilinders Glass do they blow glass there the glass blower I was using burnt down
@@dougvanallen2212 yes one of the oldest glass factories in the north east and yes they still blow glass. I only live ten minutes from the factory.
Allen Degarmo thanks so much I'll have to check them out again thank you
Beautiful work. I wondering; since your glass maker is retiring, would he not give you the press form pair he uses to make the lenses? Unless he sold his business he has no further use for them. Doesn't sound like he sold it. If not you could probably get a machinist to reproduce the mold pair for you, perhaps another RUclips creator. Then anyone who makes glass could produce your lenses.
The bent glass is made by "slumping" in a kiln. It takes years of experience know how to slump glass into a mold and come out with uniform thickness and smooth surface. Round convex bevels can be cut out of blown glass balls, again the difficulty is in producing uniform pieces. It requires special talent.
Is that some type of wax you put on the brass before forming the pattern??
Orginally it would be tallow for lubricant, but you can use laundry soap,beeswax & several other products for metal spinning brass.
Kirk’s Castile bar soap
I find metal spinning so intriguing. Thanks for sharing your talent with us.
If you don't mind my asking, what kind of lube were you using. I presume it wasn't bar soap.
Kirk's Castile bar soap works great for brass.
19:27 How easy would it be to slice your finger off on the edge of that brass if you weren't paying attention or lost focus? Seems like even the thickest gloves wouldn't save you.
Yes, it would be easy to cut yourself when spinning, have to keep focused when spinning. The gloves actually help with occasionally spreading lube and protecting your hands when a thin cut off goes wild. I've had several bruises instead of bad cuts thanks to the gloves.
Try Corning Glass Works in Corning New York. They make alot of different types of things out of glass. I used to live near there
Would they make such small runs like these lenses, especially at an affordable price? If so, that's a really good idea.
@@bobvines00 I don't know about the price but they make alot of small things. They can easy for them to make alot of them
Hiya Rick
Hey Rick check out Gillinder Glass in Port Jervis New York
Thanks! I will do that.
You need an apprentice to cut all that sheet for you....
10:44 I'll suggest a little quality improvement, could You convert said dimmensions to metric units and maybe place them somewhere on the screen for a reference next time?
It's not hard for us to eyeball thickness or recall values by which we should rescale from imperial system, but having it ready is convenient.
That is a funny comment.
I don't think it's meant to be a tutorial.