MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX The Cheaper Tomahawk

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  • Опубликовано: 2 фев 2025

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  • @mikesunboxing
    @mikesunboxing  2 года назад

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  • @brodyread4545
    @brodyread4545 4 года назад +121

    Honestly this guy is so good.. I was on the fence about this board as I couldn’t find any proper information but this video really helped me make a confident purchase... definitely deserves a like from me

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +7

      Welcome aboard! And thanks for the comment

    • @Shrixen
      @Shrixen 4 года назад +1

      how is it?

    • @interesting.960
      @interesting.960 4 года назад +3

      @@Shrixen I got one about 2 months ago and its been perfect. Stuck an R3600 and some Kingston RAM @ 3200 and an old 1050ti in it and everything just booted, easy. windows install was fast and problem free. I wouldn't mind a USB C connecter, but I also don't mind the $40AU saving... Putting that $40 into a GPU when the market gets it's shit together.

    • @Shrixen
      @Shrixen 4 года назад

      @@interesting.960 thanks a lot man also was the motherboard working with the r3600 first try?

    • @interesting.960
      @interesting.960 4 года назад

      @@Shrixen Yep, easiest computer I've ever built.

  • @bobbyndd
    @bobbyndd 4 года назад +37

    Nice detailed review. This is the kind of review I was looking for my new MoBo

  • @johnm7788
    @johnm7788 4 года назад +5

    The B450 Tomahawk Max is currently sold out in Australia. Was a little disappointed that i had to go with the MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max at first but after watching this review you have put me at ease.
    Good stuff.

  • @archersden
    @archersden 4 года назад +142

    I only got this one because the MSI B450 Tomahawk was soldout

  • @MarioGoatse
    @MarioGoatse 4 года назад +16

    Great video, mate. I actually just bought one of these myself. The Mortar Max and Tomahawk Max were either all sold out, or like $40 more expensive, depending on the stores. Should be here in the next day or two, with the rest of my first PC build. BTW, I named my PC “Coromulus”. It’s a portmanteau of Coronavirus Stimulus.

  • @Alexa6708
    @Alexa6708 4 года назад +3

    THIS VIDEO!!! explained in great detail in a way beginners can understand thank you. i wasnt should about the upgrade compatibility of the b450 mobos but youve answered all my remaining questions and given me my answer thank you.

  • @mikesunboxing
    @mikesunboxing  11 месяцев назад

    Is it the max version? With the latest bios it will support 128

  • @rounakr94
    @rounakr94 4 года назад +6

    My only complain with MSI boards is that the ram slots are placed nearly on the top edge of the board. This causes it to interfere with most AIO's when ram with heatsink is installed.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +4

      yeah i never really noticed that but now i see what you mean

    • @michaelhawkins7389
      @michaelhawkins7389 2 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing is this prossor powerful like is it decent? can it support the latest Graphics cards?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  2 года назад +1

      @@michaelhawkins7389 the newest graphics cards are PCIe gen 4 and this board is Gen 3, at the moment it makes virtually no difference but Gen 5 is around the corner so it might start making a difference soon

    • @michaelhawkins7389
      @michaelhawkins7389 2 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing oh ok , thank you for getting back to me :)

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  2 года назад

      @@michaelhawkins7389 No problem :-)

  • @johno9163
    @johno9163 4 года назад +5

    Superior review and one of the best I have ever seen on RUclips...well done!

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      Wow, thanks!

    • @obsidianz2943
      @obsidianz2943 3 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing can you please tell me if it has a 5 volt 3 pin rgb plugin for rgb fans. It would help alot.

  • @milchmonster6237
    @milchmonster6237 4 года назад +4

    Thanks mate. I just ordered mine via amazon. Great board, the money seems to be worth it.
    Keep it up and stay well.
    Greetings from germany

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +2

      Guten tag mein friend

    • @milchmonster6237
      @milchmonster6237 4 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing :)

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      Velan dank or something 😂

    • @milchmonster6237
      @milchmonster6237 4 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing "Viele Dank" , so you are welcome.
      I wonder if you can do a review on the "Thermaltake Pacific R1 Plus Memory Cover RGB" - does it affect RAM temperatures, since they are coverd and get no more air flow from system fans?!
      P.S. you got one more suporter

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      i'll see what i can do :-)

  • @maxfastest
    @maxfastest 3 года назад

    Just got this Board today
    No research at all, just looked like a great setup for my needs
    Then came across this vid and now very confident in my purchase !

  • @change2spare
    @change2spare 4 года назад +3

    This is just the video I needed. Thank you.

  • @dreblack2087
    @dreblack2087 4 года назад

    Thanks Mike! First build, first mobo, first foray into this vast world. I liked the fact that it wasn't the popular choice. Ur review makes me MUCH more confident and gives us the right info, the right way. Kudos!

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      Glad you like it! and thanks for commenting appreciate it

  • @kucrukkucrik2914
    @kucrukkucrik2914 4 года назад +6

    Detailed and thorough explanation. About to buy this mother board, and more sure than ever, thanks to your explanation.. Subss 👍👍

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      Thanks appreciate it

    • @derangeddoffy
      @derangeddoffy 4 года назад

      I just did since my gaming plus NON max has corrupted bios since I’m stupid and messed up boos flash. I was getting an upgrade anyways and now I have this motherboard, ryzen 5 3600, and rtx 2060

  • @buntudred6929
    @buntudred6929 4 года назад +6

    Really good board done 2 builds on this though one was pre MAX, great function, value and bios is easy to traverse to find your settings

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      thanks dred - quick question how do you find it when using 3 pin fans on the headers?

    • @miniweeddeerz1820
      @miniweeddeerz1820 4 года назад +1

      @@mikesunboxing MSI b450 gaming plus max Vs b450m mortar max?

    • @buntudred6929
      @buntudred6929 4 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing Hi Mike, I'm just trying to figure out same issue on an old Gigabyte ga-z87x-ud5h driving me crazy, but on those the tomahawk and the mortar i think its the advanced settings, power management, find your header number and set a manual curve. Long winded way around it but I think its kind of just 100% on or off with those without PWM or without manually setting them. The other way around it is to use RGB fans with an independent controller or get some PWM fans from say Arctic for about £3.50 to £4 each I find them to be a half decent none RGB unit.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      MiNi Weeddeerz the mortar is the better board as far as components and vrm the bazooka is one of the best boards on the market in that form factor

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      Buntu Dred yeah I think you might be right. Although I may have found a fix which I’m going to try out tomorrow

  • @The_Trojan
    @The_Trojan 4 года назад +7

    Thanks for this review. Would you get this over the ASRock B450M Steel Legend and ASRock B450M Pro 4? These have been my favorite two boards recently, especially the Steel Legend which is fantastic.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +2

      If addressable RGB is your thing stick with asrock

  • @1sigtor
    @1sigtor 2 года назад

    Mike is a great reviewer, he put in the extra effort to answer all your questions even the silly ones. Thank you like and subscribe

  • @ELSofficial
    @ELSofficial 4 года назад +2

    Can you test the vrm on this with ryzen 9 3900x or ryzen 5000 series !? It would be really interesting

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +4

      i don't have the board now sorry or i would gladly try it for you

  • @johnmckenna5782
    @johnmckenna5782 3 года назад +2

    MSI tends to make pretty good products. I have the MSI Tomahawk in my computer and I have been nothing but happy with it.

  • @yeetscale6939
    @yeetscale6939 4 года назад +3

    I’m building a gaming PC and I’m going for the ryzen 5 and probably this motherboard and I’m wondering will that work?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      This is maybe easier to advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/gaeeDPw you might even get some new tips and tricks

  • @chamithjay
    @chamithjay 4 года назад +2

    these are the reviews perfect

  • @gon9577
    @gon9577 4 года назад +5

    Hello, thanks for the video it was pretty detalied, im planning on building my first pc, will this components be allright?
    AMD RYZEN 5 3600
    MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX AM4
    GIGABYTE GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER OC 6G
    (2) 8GB T FORCE VULCAN Z GRAY 3200MHz

    • @pattyjohnson1853
      @pattyjohnson1853 4 года назад

      spend the extra couple bucks to get some 3600mhz ram, it can be a small boost for the ryzen chips in that "sweet spot" and the price difference is negligible www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232882?Description=ram%203600&cm_re=ram_3600-_-20-232-882-_-Product&quicklink=true

    • @-........
      @-........ 4 года назад

      Should fit like a glove. Nice match. I have the same mobo and cpu and it works perfectly and i am sure the gpu will be perfectly fine

    • @gypsyslayer4224
      @gypsyslayer4224 4 года назад

      omg this is nealy the same that i built.my specs are:
      Ryzen 5 3600
      Msi b450 gaming plus max
      same gpu as you exactly
      16gb corsair venegance 3600mhz

    • @ramonchis9663
      @ramonchis9663 4 года назад +1

      How do you feel your set up? is it good for gaming? im about to build mine with same specs than yours.

    • @gypsyslayer4224
      @gypsyslayer4224 4 года назад

      Ramon chis it runs most games at 1080p ultra 100fps

  • @walzen6654
    @walzen6654 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for this great review. This video helped me confirm my choice and now im getting this board for my rig.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      Glad I could help!

    • @zhila5958
      @zhila5958 4 года назад

      how is your rig btw? planning on getting one for my cousin

  • @gilbertisgilbert
    @gilbertisgilbert 4 года назад +3

    Thank you for all the information! I've been planning my first build and I was needing as much info as possible on this motherboard. It has everything I need and more. You covered all of my doubts. Thanks again!

  • @horugvaua
    @horugvaua 4 года назад +1

    There is information from several sources that this model of the motherboard has significant problems with the DRAM and power circuits. However, this motherboard looks really great aspecially for this price.

    • @musek5048
      @musek5048 4 года назад +1

      care to share those sources? im stuck now deciding between a tomahawk max or this gaming plus max. the only difference i can visually see is just better vrm's on the tomahawk.

    • @horugvaua
      @horugvaua 4 года назад

      @@musek5048 I didn’t keep links for myself, but there are several threads on the MSI's forum and Reddit. There are also several videos about this in the rus segment of RUclips. I also chose between this motherboard and Tomahawk for the R5 3600 and I'm ordered Tomahawk. Not so much a difference in price to risk it.

    • @musek5048
      @musek5048 4 года назад

      @@horugvaua actually i just finished watching hardware unboxed's video on the 3950x with budget b450 mobos and the tomahawk surprised the hell out of me. I'm sold lol

    • @horugvaua
      @horugvaua 4 года назад

      @@musek5048 Yeah) I'm think Tomahawk is truly the best in it's segment

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      If the tomahawk has addressable RGB I would get it in a heartbeat

  • @gummo5092
    @gummo5092 4 года назад +4

    Hi !!this motherboard pcie looks a bit samll can i install my gtx 1660 super on this motherboard ?

  • @Sasoki09
    @Sasoki09 4 года назад +1

    nice review

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      Thank you! Cheers!

    • @Sasoki09
      @Sasoki09 4 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing for that review i will buy this borad
      I watch your videos from iraq

  • @willowlafrenier2916
    @willowlafrenier2916 4 года назад +3

    Would I need standoffs or motherboard screws

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      There are most likely to be some on your case already but you might need additional suppport with pillars and screws

  • @marcms25
    @marcms25 4 года назад +1

    Just what i was looking for, thanks

  • @GDRS_Marc
    @GDRS_Marc 4 года назад +5

    I liked this motherboard more than MSI Tomahawk.

  • @_____.7710
    @_____.7710 4 года назад +1

    tis is very helpful. thank u man. and a very decent review

  • @qoekeur
    @qoekeur 4 года назад +1

    Fantastic video, very informative. Thanks.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      Shy Guy Thanks for the feedback! Please consider sharing the video and information on your social media, it really helps to grow the Channel :-)

  • @lanzh29
    @lanzh29 3 года назад

    Brilliant review. Thanks Mike.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  3 года назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it - thanks for watching :-)

  • @UNSC_AlexanderSteel
    @UNSC_AlexanderSteel 4 месяца назад

    Thank you very much for this informative and clear review, doing my first build upgrade alone so having the exact motherboard get broken down by area was very useful.
    I've been running on ancient gear for about a decade now with the exception of my graphics card and have gotten by with good graphics and decent frame rate on games as advanced as Cyberpunk and Hogwarts Legacy on an Intel Core i5-7500 CPU and an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 (MVP of PC).
    But no matter how I tried to make it work I couldn't get Space Marine 2 to function on my gear, so I bit the bullet and made the new setup around this motherboard and I don't know if it'll be like putting on glasses for the first time but honestly I'm excited to see everything I've been missing out on and more that that everything I'll be able to finally run.
    TL:DR Thanks for the summary of the Motherboard, helped me make my new PC so I can play Space Marine 2.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 месяца назад +1

      don't forget that the 3060 is a pcie gen 4 card and this board is only PCie gen 3 so you won't get the full perfromance from it, but it will be close. Ideally a B550 board would be more fitting and offer better upgrade path for the long term.

    • @UNSC_AlexanderSteel
      @UNSC_AlexanderSteel 4 месяца назад +1

      @@mikesunboxing Thank you, I still have time to swap it over and return the other board since it just arrived. I appreciate your guidance on the matter and hope you have a great day, thank you once more 😁.

  • @summerishere5146
    @summerishere5146 4 года назад

    Does the motherboard support headsets that also double as microphones? At 12:20 you talked about the highlighted red one being for speakers and audio. If I plug my headset+microphone into that port will I have access to the microphone? Also if there is a port designated for headset+microphone, will there be a dip in sound quality? Many thanks! I really appreciated the video!!

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      yes this will support loads of different setups. If your headset has a single TRRS jack you will need to get a splitter to make that TRS standard so you can plug the headset part into the earphone socket and the mic part into the mic socket - hope this makes sense?

  • @Nick_R_
    @Nick_R_ 3 месяца назад

    I'm wondering whether these are worth £65 here in 2024? I believe with a BIOS update they take the 5000 series Ryzens. I'm also wondering about the motherboard holes for screwing into the stand-offs. At 8:25 it's missing solder on the contacts, I think. But why do these holes even have soldered contacts? Does it ground anything?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  3 месяца назад +1

      £65 maybe, although recently the B550 tomahawk was on offer for £79.99 refurbished and the b550 gaming plus is pretty much always £100 and these boards will offer more in terms of longevity and upgrade paths, but depending on your needs £65 seems okay

    • @Nick_R_
      @Nick_R_ 3 месяца назад +2

      @@mikesunboxing Yes, for my own PC I went with the B550 Tomahawk. I'm now penny pinching for a friend, though I generally recommend a good quality motherboard, even within tight budgets...

  • @WOPR_PC
    @WOPR_PC 2 года назад

    I love this MB! it works with the low end CPU's and 3rd gen CPU's. Awesome MB!!

  • @saoggo8948
    @saoggo8948 2 года назад

    thank you so much I thought I couldn't update the bios without a cpu Thank you so much.

  • @Yeaits9cm
    @Yeaits9cm 4 года назад

    Thanks man! This really helped

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      Thanks 🙏

    • @Yeaits9cm
      @Yeaits9cm 4 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing But do I have to install windows on that Motherboard?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      @@Yeaits9cm you have to install windows on all motherboards :-)

  • @lawsoncook4508
    @lawsoncook4508 4 года назад

    Great review! Was just wondering if this board has a wireless wifi connection or do you have to purchase a wifi card?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      Yes you do need to buy a wifi device if you need wifi

  • @musek5048
    @musek5048 4 года назад +2

    i just received my 1600AF and was planning on buying the Tomahawk max. do you really feel the extra 15 bucks would be worth it? i do plan on upgrading to a 3000 series later on so i want to make sure i get the mobo that will handle the overclocks better.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      Of the b450 boards the msi tomahawk and gaming plus and carbon ac are the best out there but for overclock the 3000 series really needs more phases on the vrm

    • @musek5048
      @musek5048 4 года назад +1

      @@mikesunboxing so at that point just jump ship to x570? or could i possibly get away with using, say, a 3600x with a good OC on a B450? although i do want to upgrade later on i dont feel like i would ever need anything beyond a 3600 or 3700 but if my situation changes i can always just swap boards if the need is there. I'm waiting on tax money to come in so i wanna have my choices pretty set so i can get the ball rollin

    • @myytti16
      @myytti16 4 года назад

      @@musek5048 I would jump to X570 if you want to overclock and little bit futureproof yourself. PCIE Gen 4 might be useless for now but Precision Boost Overdrive is a nice feature that B450 motherboards don't offer. If you are on a budget, I would pick up Asus Prime X570-P board. By far the best of the "cheap" ones (VRM-wise).

    • @The_Trojan
      @The_Trojan 4 года назад

      @@myytti16 Actually B450 boards do support PBO. Its on the Tomahawk B450, ASRock Steel Legend B450M, ASRock B450 Pro4....

    • @musek5048
      @musek5048 4 года назад +1

      @@myytti16 hmmm interesting, its $30 more though, what would i be gaining other than better overclocks? my goal from the start was to upgrade my 4570 over to ryzen and i was planning on keeping it as cheap as possible to which i found out was a horrible idea because of how much performance you throw away by cheaping out on mobo's for the ryzen chips. so after talking with a few people on here and a couple forums they've all recommended me the tomahawk max. I mostly use the pc to game with a rx580 and just your usual media stuff. I WOULD like the option to upgrade to something like a 3700x or 3600 but i dont really NEED that power at this point. so what do you think? so far i had in mind the 1600AF i just got, tomahawk mobo, team t force delta 3200 16gb, and a new case because mine is an old boring antec and has a dent lol. RGB isnt a must obviously but it IS a nice feature if it comes at a cheap cost. Sorry for rambling but people dont really respond that quick so i try to explain what i want to do as best i can.

  • @adam-ot3eo
    @adam-ot3eo 4 года назад

    Hi Mike, I'm committing to a Ryzen 5 3600, an EVGA Geforce RTX 2060, but the tomahawk is sold out. What mobo would you recommend I use? I don't know whether to go for the Gaming Plus Max or go for an X470 or X570? Appreciate it.

  • @chillberry5723
    @chillberry5723 4 года назад +1

    Excellent vid!! You definitely deserve more subs

  • @hvfizul9478
    @hvfizul9478 4 года назад

    Thank you!very informative

  • @novelvlog1562
    @novelvlog1562 4 года назад

    Watched your first video, new subscriber

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      Yay! Thank you! And welcome to Our Channel :-)

  • @RicardoCifuentesYepes
    @RicardoCifuentesYepes 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the unboxing and review Mike. It's a nice choice for mid budget. I'd like to see a review of the AORUS X570 Elite WiFi. It's my candidate for a future upgrade (w/ a R7 3700X). Thank you!

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      i'll see what i can do. Thanks for watching Ricardo

  • @evilqtip7098
    @evilqtip7098 Год назад

    Excellent explanation very good video

  • @saarahsalie7602
    @saarahsalie7602 4 года назад

    thanks for this great video. would you say this board is better than the MSI B450M MORTAR MAX?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      that is a MATX board so not really in the same segment but both are similar in quality VRM wise

  • @MA-qz1sd
    @MA-qz1sd 4 года назад +1

    I am currently building a system with Ryzen 7 3700x, RTX 2070 super and G.SKILL 16GB 3600 ram, I am stuck on choosing a decent mobo that's not too expensive budget is $200 what do you recommend. I like this mobo but i am just not sure with the RAM being 3600 and all. I am looking for performance, reliability and something that will last long and preserve my other parts. I don't care about lighting, Aesthetics wifi and all that jazz. Thank you in advance

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      get the asus x570 tuf gaming you won't regret it

    • @MA-qz1sd
      @MA-qz1sd 4 года назад +1

      @@mikesunboxing it's sold out everywhere :( and the places that do have it are overcharging, do you recommend the MSI b450 Tomahawk ?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      it is a good option but i would try and stay with x570 if you can with all those cores

  • @johnstancliff7328
    @johnstancliff7328 3 года назад

    Mike, you might want to update this video about the TPM and windows 11. I just bought one of these for Christmas and am really excited about upgrading from AM3 to the AM4 platform... the main problem I have right now is the compatible processors... the manual doesn't specify the exact models and I'm finding some A8-AM4 processors for dirt cheap but don't know if they are compatible with the board. I don't OC so that's no problem, but don't want to spend too much money on the processor... I'm currently quad-core, and want to stay that way as the unit is used primarily as a household computer that will have 2 DVD-RW drives for disc copying and basic burning... and some gaming... I really enjoyed you motherboard tour... thanks!

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  3 года назад

      thanks John. To find out the supported processors the manual is rubbish, head over to the msi website and look on the compatibility pages. I think with a modern bios that the a series processors might have been dropped, and to be honest they are not great and very slow comparitively. I would suggest the 2200G or 3200G if you can find one, maybe even risk CEX for one

    • @johnstancliff7328
      @johnstancliff7328 3 года назад

      I just ordered the Ryzen 5 5600G for less than $250.00 US looking forward to getting this build done.... I want to get this system up and running.... I'm putting in a Radeon HD 7450 GPU to run on this system, have a geforce GTX 460 1GB and it just does do the trick... tested it in another system and the video and audio was schetchy. FPS kept jumping around and the audio kept dropping off... ran XP based games with no problem, but video... a minimum of 2GB is needed for smooth running videos. wish me luck!

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  3 года назад

      @@johnstancliff7328 Good luck!

  • @skystalker7700
    @skystalker7700 4 года назад +2

    Hey, Mike... thanks for the video! Awesome! So the only difference between the Tomahawk Max and the Gaming Plus Max is the USB Type C? Are the VRM's different? CAD$144.00... not bad, but not great.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      Yes the vrm is the exact same setup the whole board actually looks the same layout heatsinks etc
      So a decent saving in some markets

    • @zorous9403
      @zorous9403 4 года назад

      Any different between heatsinks?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      @@zorous9403 not a lot from the look of it apart from cosmetic changes

  • @Cirux321
    @Cirux321 4 года назад +2

    Nice board. My only real gripe is that MSI likes to use black/red (granted it's their color scheme) too much. It's very limiting in the colors you can use in a build with tempered glass panel cases. The boards from MSI that I've used was the Pro Carbon editions for that reason. But you're also paying a premium for the Pro Carbons. I've been using Asus ROG Strix lately though. I just prefer their software, aesthetics and their beefier VRMs more. But MSI is pretty good too. The only boards I've ever encountered issues with is Gigabyte. I've had or have known people who have had issues with several of their boards. Asrock is pretty solid boards also.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      totally agree - i think if asus were a little cheaper they would be unbeatable

  • @clarencegramula3971
    @clarencegramula3971 4 года назад +1

    Hello. I'm new to pc tech but I'm planning to build one soon. I have a already bought this exact Mobo but I've ordered a ram with a speed of 3600mz.Will it still work in the motherboard? And if so how much of the speed will it support?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      it should run at 3200 or 3466 you might even get 3600 manually entering the details

    • @clarencegramula3971
      @clarencegramula3971 4 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing thanks for your answers. But I'm confused on what to do. Enter what manually where ? Thanks in advance

    • @lorenainiguez3642
      @lorenainiguez3642 4 года назад

      @@clarencegramula3971 You are supposed to go to the bios. There are many videos on RUclips explaining how to do it.

  • @Bee7s
    @Bee7s 4 года назад

    Currently running a A320 board. With a Ryzen7 2700. Rtx2070. Still getting bad & drops. I believe it’s my board not being able to provide the power to my CPU. Upgrading to this board reckon it would be a good gaming performance increase?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      yes that setup probably deserves a better motherboard but also consider your power supply - that can also make a big difference with a quality power delivery

  • @eddyhaze8239
    @eddyhaze8239 4 года назад

    I got the MSI 470 great board zero problems unlike the asrock x570 think I will be sticking with MSI from now on

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      I wish I could pin my colours to a certain mast but as a reviewer I should try and remain open and impartial

  • @Keepe666
    @Keepe666 4 года назад +2

    Hi, can you look how high the vrm heatsink is near the ram?
    Or fit it in the pure base 500 with arctic liquid 280 in the top?
    Thank you

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      Yes It can not a problem

    • @budias9051
      @budias9051 4 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing What about noctua NH U14s ?
      This mobo have backplate pre-installed right ?

  • @andrewgrant8648
    @andrewgrant8648 4 года назад +2

    Will this motherboard work with a Ryzen 5 3600 without doing that bios flashback or do I have to do that bios flashback thanks for the review

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +2

      will work out of the box

    • @andrewgrant8648
      @andrewgrant8648 4 года назад +2

      Mike's unboxing, reviews and how to thanks probably gonna buy this mobo

    • @dzevoo9704
      @dzevoo9704 4 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing will no max work with ryzen 7 3700x?

  • @christianbenedictilumin992
    @christianbenedictilumin992 4 года назад +1

    Hey bro... thanks for this great review, here in PH tomahawk is a bit pricey than gaming plus max. I was actually about to purchase tomahawk 2 hours ago but I said make another research on motherboards. And I stumbled again on your video this is the second time you helped me on my wishlist, first is the Gaming headset and this. NOw i know what I want for Christmas. Too bad ill be settling for athlon 200ge for awhile ryzen 5 still cant afford 😢.. Merry Xmas bro thanks again. MORE GREAT VIDEOS TO COME. You just got a new subbed from me...😀

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      Glad we are helping you! Welcome to the Channel too :-) Merry Christmas!

    • @christianbenedictilumin992
      @christianbenedictilumin992 4 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing hey bro thanks again for this vid already purchased mine, just a question what would you recommend the right parts for this motherboard? Such as type of ryzen 5, ram speed and the GPU. I was thinking, getting a ryzen 5 3600, for the ram ddr4 8gbx2 16gb 3600mhz but not yet sure what brand i would go to, then for the GPU i have no idea, im just afraid of the bottlenecking and spending all of my budget for something that in the first place i wont even need .. the ideal is for future proofing hopefully. Thanks in advance...😊

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/gaeeDPw@@christianbenedictilumin992

  • @itsyoboi8682
    @itsyoboi8682 3 года назад

    Great video mate! Would like to get your opinipn on if the vrams temps on this are better than the tomahawks? I'm on the fence as to which to buy since I'm on a tight budget so wanted to see your thoughts. Cheers mate

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  3 года назад

      they are very similar, but i guess it depends on what you are wanting to do and with what chip

  • @Nhozemphtekhh
    @Nhozemphtekhh 4 года назад +1

    Im waiting for MOBO to arrive with a 5700 xt on my build which is PCi.e 4.0 and as i read on the official msi site it supports it unless u use the other PCi.e then the speed will go down a bit. Still im in doubt and a bit afraid that the GPU wont work, should i be or not?:P

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      The pcie 3 is enough for that card even 2080ti is pcie 3 and that is a much faster card

  • @starlightcityluckycasino
    @starlightcityluckycasino 4 года назад +1

    Great review! I am subscribing now..

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      Awesome, thank you! Welcome to the Channel :-)

  • @andrewgrant8648
    @andrewgrant8648 4 года назад +2

    I have one more question would this be able to work with a rtx 1660 super ? By asus and nvidea

  • @sylvesterjayasundera7057
    @sylvesterjayasundera7057 4 года назад

    Nice detailed video. My build is on this B450. Work flawlessly.
    Ryzen 3400G
    8 x 2 = 16Gb ram
    RX 570 8GB VGA

  • @fake2044
    @fake2044 4 года назад +2

    what mobo w wifi will u recommend? pairing with ryzen 5 3600

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      this one will be fine or the asus x570 tuf is my personal choice with that same processor

  • @Shotjunkie99
    @Shotjunkie99 4 года назад

    Awesome review! Very in depth better than MSI’s website

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      Lol thanks appreciate your feedback

  • @henkdrese
    @henkdrese 4 года назад

    great no nonsence review, thank you very much

  • @MrAlone006
    @MrAlone006 2 года назад

    Hello sir, really detailed and helpful information :) but, will this motherboard support Ryzen 5000 series (eg- Ryzen 5 5600g) after bios flashback?

  • @FluXHound
    @FluXHound 4 года назад +1

    Can I ask. Im doing a build for a friend. He has this board on the way and a ryzen 3600 do i need to flash it? Or will it work straight out of the box

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      It might just work anyway it is likely to if the board is new stock otherwise the bios is easy to flash from a usb stick, I’ll do a video tomorrow to show you how it’s done

    • @FluXHound
      @FluXHound 4 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing thank you mike. Your my new favourite YT reviewer. Yeah the box says it will work. Its not my build you see. So i gotta go get a usb get a computer etc. Then sort it etc

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      bless you that is kind of you to say.

    • @milchmonster6237
      @milchmonster6237 4 года назад

      Hi there, just for your info: My ryzen 5 3600x just booted up straight out of the box

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      @@milchmonster6237 awesome news! enjoy the rest of the build

  • @renagadetechtog655
    @renagadetechtog655 4 года назад

    Hi. Would this be ok for 3400g amd? I'm going to build first computer at 58 years old.....
    Lockdown and disability is forcing the need to do it myself.
    Great channel bud.....

  • @lorenainiguez3642
    @lorenainiguez3642 4 года назад +1

    There are two audio drivers, Realtek HD Universal Driver and Realtek High Definition Audio Driver. Which one am I supposed to download?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      both one is the app driver the other will download itself after

    • @lorenainiguez3642
      @lorenainiguez3642 4 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing Ahh I see, thanks

  • @MayureshSalvankar
    @MayureshSalvankar 4 года назад +1

    Can I use Ryzen 7 3700x on this motherboard? . Currently I will use stock cooler and 2 extra fans on top and in future I will upgrade to 240 mm Aio. Can I use the chip with this board?

  • @markfalina9160
    @markfalina9160 4 года назад

    Mike, please help a new builder. I have a Ryzen 3 3200. I would like to know 1. If it will work with Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666Mhz, and 2. If it will work out of box or flashback is necessary. Thank you for the review.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      will be fine out of the box and the memory can be faster if you can budget for it. Join us on the discord chat if you want more in depth help and guidance

  • @anishebenezer8600
    @anishebenezer8600 4 года назад

    Will this support a Ryzen 7 3700x with rtx 2060 and a dual 8gb 3200 MHz ram. Sorry for the big question just learning about custom builds . Nice video btw learnt a lot

  • @notallgarbage
    @notallgarbage 2 года назад

    how are the VRMs on this board? Is it suited for higher TDPs CPUs like a 5800x?

  • @-Ufo_Abduction-
    @-Ufo_Abduction- 4 года назад

    Hi i'd like to buy that motherboard + ryzen 3600 + 2070s. For wifi connection what do y suggest? A pci card or usb dongle? Thx

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      Dongle is my choice as they are cheap and can be moved around on a extension cable if needed

  • @Lloydb_
    @Lloydb_ 4 года назад +1

    Hey Mike, I’m not really good when it comes to building PCs and I was just wondering whether the NZXT all in one cooler will use its rgb if the motherboard isn’t rgb, great video and thanks in advance. :)

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      depends on which model cooler it is there are a few options to choose from and they work differently

    • @Lloydb_
      @Lloydb_ 4 года назад

      Mike's unboxing, reviews and how to Thanks for the reply, as far as I’m aware the coolers are the same apart from there’s a 240mm one and a 280mm

  • @johantehur7928
    @johantehur7928 4 года назад

    Was the box to this originally sealed by clear plastic/taped closed? I'm just curious because I ordered one from online and the shipping box was glued at the tabs, but the exception wasn't with the exception of the product box itself.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      no mine was open box not even a security sticker

    • @johantehur7928
      @johantehur7928 4 года назад

      I see. Damn that sucks for me, because no matter what they'd just point the finger at me. Alright, it seems that I'm going to learn an inconvenient costly mistake I made is going to rage into a video where I launch this board into a woodchipper just for personal satisfaction to see it can no longer trouble me. However, as I'm realizing more and more, Fate just does a person dirty, no matter what and in my case it had to be the motherboard, the last piece that I needed to get and no matter how I may take a different view of it, it just wasn't meant to be for me at least, to achieve that level of content or normality. No I'm stuck cursing the 1st place that (INSERT SELECTIVE FOUL LANGUAGE HERE) sigh, alright well thanks for the info.
      Sigh, my apologies for the rambling, but my 1st system build didn't turn out as expected and as much as I'd like to just forget the whole motherboard thing, I can't because there's too many little things that currently just have me reeling back and forth and I wish, the information would be as easy as opening a book to read, but even the manual that came with it is in 2 languages other than English, thus adding to my level of frustration and discontent mutate into a seething hatred of no tolerance or forgiveness, as I'm now cursed by this MOBO.
      I'd give a list of things that bothers me about it, but I just had to vent after seeing that there was no saving grace from this at all, including the box it was finally put in before hitting shelves.
      Death by speeding Locomotive is favored, but nope, hopefully I was able to satisfy the drama queen within me, so I can stop crying like a lilbytch.
      Again, thank you for the reply.

    • @ugay6968
      @ugay6968 4 года назад

      @@johantehur7928 damn

  • @d0g642
    @d0g642 4 года назад

    great video, often see reviewers try to be high energy but you keep a clear and calm demeanor which makes everything a lot better to process and easy to understand

  • @sef7571
    @sef7571 4 года назад +1

    Thank you homie this is a bomb ass review.
    So I’m building my first pc and I’m getting a nzxt h510, would this motherboard fit?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      yes will be fine

    • @z3r0rl
      @z3r0rl 4 года назад

      Same motherboard but I have the h510i

    • @jamesonwiggs797
      @jamesonwiggs797 4 года назад +1

      I’m getting the same motherboard and case, how did it go??

    • @z3r0rl
      @z3r0rl 4 года назад

      @@jamesonwiggs797 I went with the h510 elite with the tempered front panel and I got some aer 2 but 120mm for the exhaust and it turned out great

    • @sef7571
      @sef7571 4 года назад

      @@jamesonwiggs797 well I’ve had my pc for a couple months now, it worked right out of the box and it fits great, I’m glad I didn’t go with a mini itx board, I think it would have looked awkward. Also something cool, I originally had a 2060 ko and got a GREAT deal on a 2080 super
      Can we also give mike props for responding and liking every comment

  • @tokos1989
    @tokos1989 4 года назад

    Very well detailed review! Thanks for that! Subscribed! Keep up the good work! ;)

  • @markberry8182
    @markberry8182 4 года назад

    I've had this for 5 months so far it's been pretty good. I've just realised after watching Saturdays live stream that my bios is a bit out of date I'm on h50 which came out last July and the newest one is h70. Is it worth updating it? I have got an Rx 570 and occasionally info get a problem with the sound. Can you flash the bios straight to the newest version or do you have to do them one at a time? Not done this before. Thanks

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      sometimes the newest one can be flashed but read the individual versions just in case there is a bios that needs installing first

  • @a29lupin
    @a29lupin 4 года назад

    Please share results and settings of overclocking this mobo paired with ryzen 3600.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +2

      I don’t have the board now sorry

  • @dipeshmohanty8159
    @dipeshmohanty8159 4 года назад +1

    Would you recommend this or the ASRock B450 Pro4?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      it is a better board than the pro4 when overclocking but the pro4 is generally cheaper and has more features like addressable and 12v rgb so if that is your thing the pro4 is a good choice

    • @dipeshmohanty8159
      @dipeshmohanty8159 4 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing I don't think I'll be over clocking on this board. Probably in the future, I might overclock on it very lightly. But, I've also heard that sometimes the XMP profiles don't work on ASRock boards. Hopefully, that's not the case with the Ryzen 3000 series. So still really confused :/
      Anyway, thanks for your reply!
      Great video though!

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      best way to see if you are likely to have memory issues is to look at the hardware compatibility listings and try and buy memory that is compatible with your board or vice versa

    • @dipeshmohanty8159
      @dipeshmohanty8159 4 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing Yes, will do!
      Thank you so much for your help!

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      no problem hope you get the stuiff you need. If you need any help let me know

  • @xpsuo7565
    @xpsuo7565 4 года назад

    Thinking about using this for a red/black/ white build. A review on amazon said it does not have a fan controller for the BIOS. Is this true? May need to rethink this choice if so.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      i think they mean there is no fan ON the chipset or bios

    • @xpsuo7565
      @xpsuo7565 4 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing am referring to the non max. But this may still apply. They said they couldn't adjust the fan curve using the 4 pin headers. Any Insight?

  • @biv_ky
    @biv_ky 4 года назад

    Not sure if mentioned in the video, but this seems like the perfect motherboard I’d need, except for one possible issue. The memory I am planning on buying is DDR4 3600. The motherboard does not list 3600 MHz memory, yet it goes up past 4000 MHz memory. Will 3600 memory work?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      It should, just get a good branded type and you will be fine

  • @Cramzie
    @Cramzie 4 года назад +2

    I’m confused ab the m.2 with this board, so if I use an m.2 ssd what does that mean? Sorry I’m building my first pc

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      if you use the m.2 you might find a couple of the SATA ports are not available

    • @piotrmbukowski
      @piotrmbukowski 4 года назад

      m.2 is a physical connector for a SSD drive. It's a slot basically. There is a cost to using it - some SATA connectors are turned off (and it's official).

  • @andreicosmin3696
    @andreicosmin3696 Год назад

    I have this motherboard and I want to put an ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO cooler on it, will it fit? I looked for opinions and some people say yes, others say no.

  • @matteofrancorios4179
    @matteofrancorios4179 4 года назад +2

    Greetings, I need help. I have the gaming plus max with a ryzen 5 3600, it happens to me that when I play video games or watch videos I suffer a short slowdown and the audio also slows down making a robotic sound, this lasts about a second, but it usually happens about once an hour during game section. Could someone help me to know what happens if the problem is of configuration or components, the components are new brought from Amazon approximately 4 months ago

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/gaeeDPw

  • @elprinse7857
    @elprinse7857 4 года назад

    Hi
    Right now I am building a pc and after this review I think I am going with this motherboard but I have a question can I use an Intel i5 9400f or is it only AMD and if it does support Intel should I go with Intel core i5 9400f or amd ryzen 5 3600
    Thank you so much
    (really loved your review BTW)

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for the reply and to answer the question the motherboard in question is for AMD chips only. Without being disrespectful i think you really need to research the whole PC building process and theory before you start buying anything. It can be costly to make buying mistakes and also some dubious sellers will take advantage of your lack of knowledge.
      If you want some building blocks and help we have a discord chat server you can join if you want to know where to start and things to be wary of.
      But essentially read, watch, question and learn

    • @elprinse7857
      @elprinse7857 4 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing thank you so much I'll try to do more research 🙏🙏

  • @arimmo6345
    @arimmo6345 4 года назад

    Hey man love the review! I already have this mobo and I recently turned the smart fan control off for the CPU so I can get lower temps but my EDC is at 99% when having only browser tabs open. Is that ok? Even when I move my mouse it shoots up and I’m concerned.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      i would turn smart control back on and see what happens to the EDC

    • @arimmo6345
      @arimmo6345 4 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing Hey man thanks it just fixed itself without me having to do anything. It could be since it's super hot rn and my cooler comes loose when my PC is upright. Hopefully going to get a new Noctua cooler so I can move my PC upright without the cooler falling off. My EDC currently is at around 87% and sometimes jumps to 92%. I switched my power supply off eco mode also which might have fixed it. Thanks man for the reply.

  • @jacobcoppolino9876
    @jacobcoppolino9876 4 года назад

    Did you have to Bios update the Motherboard prior to running the Ryzen 5 3600?
    I'm having trouble getting into Bios with the MSI gaming Max Plus and a Ryzen 5 3600 CPU.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      it should work straight away with that chip.

  • @danadams3610
    @danadams3610 4 года назад

    this was such a great video thank you, i was wondering if this will support a ryzen 7 2700x and a 2060

  • @ptolomaios4118
    @ptolomaios4118 4 года назад

    I’m thinking to either get this or the ASUS ROG Strix x470f. Which one would be better? I have a Ryzen 3600.

  • @ELSofficial
    @ELSofficial 4 года назад +1

    Will it handle ryzen 3900x or 3950x?

  • @NoTekRc
    @NoTekRc 2 года назад

    i have this board...after 2 solid years of no issues the onboard audio chipset decided to quit randomly...it seems to be a common issue....not impressed with that...
    i hope nothing else fails.

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  2 года назад

      hmm that is odd, totally gone from device manager and everything?

    • @NoTekRc
      @NoTekRc 2 года назад

      @@mikesunboxing ya.... spent hours on diagnosis.... it's simply dead. Have to use a pcie expansion card for sound.

  • @Li-xu7wf
    @Li-xu7wf 4 года назад +2

    Can use corsair vengeance lpx 16gb ram 3200mhz?

  • @cameron1896
    @cameron1896 4 года назад +1

    I’m looking to install 4 fans in total for my pc. Does this pc have enough fan header connectors for this or will I need to get a cable splitter?

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      Depending on the locations you are installing you will probably need a splitter anyway

    • @simonerinaldi7253
      @simonerinaldi7253 4 года назад +2

      I have this motherboard, it has 4 fan headers:
      - on LEFT side, near audio Jack connectors
      - 2 on RIGHT side, near motherboard main connector
      - on BOTTOM, near USB expansion headers.
      ibb.co/ZMsFjyD

    • @nils0riz0r
      @nils0riz0r 4 года назад

      @@simonerinaldi7253 thank you. just what i was looking for ;-)

  • @Beefy5cyl
    @Beefy5cyl 4 года назад

    How many 3 pins are on the bottom? or how many case fans can I connect to it? I know you explained it but I’m still new to this

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  4 года назад

      quite a few headers on this board five in total and two at the bottom

  • @VR8D
    @VR8D 2 года назад

    any way to use wifi and bluetooth on this motherboard??

    • @mikesunboxing
      @mikesunboxing  2 года назад

      yes PCIe expansion card or USB dongle