At 7:02 it is supposed to say, “autonomous car FTW.” For some reason during the upload process it cut the message. Maybe RUclips will fix it at some point.
Olds, Chevrolet, Buick, Pontiac, GMC, and Cadillac are all owed by General Motors there’s really nothing that sets the cars apart other than different badges
When I was a teenager there was a 69 W -- 31 four speed running around the neighborhood. I can still remember how wicked it sounded almost 40 years later.
I give these guys a lot of credit for bringing these cars out and running them. Takes a lot of guts to run these cars as they are worth a shit ton of $$$.
WOW !...13.2 @106mph ? Fantastic time for the Olds ! At the local strip, back in ‘68, ‘69 the prepped W-31’s were running mid to high 12’s in NHRA’S F stock classes. The ‘68-‘69 W-30’s with the long stroke 400’s sat in D & E stock. In 1968 the Berejick W-30 442 held the record et. for it’s class @ 12.3 but more racers opted for the high reving W-31, which coupled with the lower stock class, gave it an edge where wins were concerned. In 1970 the 442 got the 455, which resulted in et.’s in the mid 11’s. The 442 was bumped from D/E stock down to F-stock, while the W-31 went to G-stock. Oldsmobiles were super competitive in the stock classes back then...Sunday afternoons at the strip, watching cars I’d see driving around town, burning the quarter mile ! I myself raced a stock Duster 340....14.5’s @ 97mph...right out of the box, with a 3.23 posi rear-end and torqueflight 3 speed automatic. Fantastic little car, but after a ride in a 1970 W-31....big respect for the Cutlass !
I just watched a matchup on the C&Z page that pitted a 70 340 Demon 4 spd against a ‘65 L78 Corvette. The Demon seemed to own the lowly solid lifter, big valve 396 and consistently (ahem) did something low 13’s. My head was spinning. Your 14.5 was QUICK and quite representative of what I remember too. The revisionist history of these races is silly. It was what it was and it is what it is.
@@MrBluzhoundI seen that race also, my brother had a 72 Plymouth Cuda and our cousin wanted to race him with his 70 SS 396 Chevelle the Cuda 340 beat the Chevelle 396, the 340 was called a giant killer.
Glad you prefaced that comment with your personal brand loyalty Ryan. It's important to know what type of guy you are before we can consider respecting anything.
I encountered a W31 convertible at our local track running 13.9's. It was a college kid who knew nothing, I asked to look at his motor, it was filthy. A friend had a '68 Camaro 396-375, ran 13.80's with Lakewood bars, later in life he paid $300 for a '67 Chevelle factory 4 speed car with a 350 LT-1 block, stock Z-28 cam, but 275 hp heads, cast manifold and a Q-jet (roundy-round racer repair to dump the car). It ran 13.50's all day long and killed on the street. Takes all kinds!
Definitely can't blame any of these guys backing out from mechanical mayhem being avoided,especially preventable kinds they can diagnose before KABLOOEY!!!! I love these cars and videos and certainly don't want any demolished for anything!!! Thanks to you and the owners sharing their beloved baby's with us!!!!!
Man I've been binge watching these episodes the past few days since I found them. I really enjoy this class of stock racing, and seeing what some of these fabled cars will truly do on a drag strip. You definitely earned a sub.
My father had a '67 Olds Cutlass W30 for about two months - before a drunk driver rear-ended him. He never got the opportunity to hit the drag strip with it, but I remember him hammering through the gears on the street and having a big grin on his face the whole while. I recall helping him removing the gold colored 400CID engine and M21 transmission after the accident and thinking how cool it was that the engine was gold, like it was a rare piece of precious metal - which it ended up being. Always thought that Olds was the sharpest car on the road, at the time.
That 400 was the best 442 platform, period. Olds effed up inn68 with a corporate 400 that was a DOG by comparison. The 65.5-67 400 was a 4.00x3.975” perfect screamer platform.
@@CarsAndZebras In early episodes of that 70s show. My favorite station wagon. Imagine one with a 455 and towing package. 12 bolt posi and TH400 with cooler. They exist.
I bought a ‘70 W-31 in 1979 for $600 because the starter needed brushes. The owner was pissed because he couldn’t figure out why it started fine when cool but not once it warmed up. ( The moral of the story is you learn a lot about cars when you drive clunkers. ) lol
Car & Zebrs you are the best. Oldsmobile W 31 my absolutely absolutely favorite Oldsmobile. 1968 my favorite with the little Ram Rod stickers on the guards but a truly unknown underrated sleeper of a muscle car. Absolutely a big block killer, everyone talks about the Chevrolet L 79 & LT 1 etc but I think the Old's W 31 is just the small block of all small block's in the GM arsenal. You ask your typical Chevy Guy or most muscle car people & hatdly anyone has heard of a W 31 everyone has heard of W 30 but not the 31. By the way record amount of W 30 this week at Mecum Kissimmee never seen so many & they have fallen in price a fair bit. Yes I am a Mopar Guy through & through but I have a huge soft spot for Old's as well. That A 12 had it's work cut out for it big time considering the Old's was 90 cubic smaller puts another meaning to " No substitute for Cubes " except if it is a W 31. That was a pure sex on wheels W 31 just gorgeous pure fantasy. Another awesome video again what a way to start the day in smokey choking Melbourne Australia. The bushfire's smoke has choked the city for over a week now. Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍
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I owned a 70 w-31..4 spd..4.33 gears..shifted at 6800 rpm.. absolutely the one I should have kept..street raced it in nc..tenn and south Miami Black with white strips on the ram- air hood..white interior
Roadrunner makes an a oviously smashing beep beep!! 🚗💨 on those 2 Rounds, poor Oldsmobile, a Chrysler 440 vs a GM 350 isn't a quite fair competition but , giving credit to the 350 it did a good effort.
Guy with the W31 is a. Really cool dude. We where pitted next to him some 10 years ago @ Byron dragway and I remember when it was being raced as a survivor car. The restoration on it is amazing. As a olds guy and die hard small block olds guy this car is one of my favorites.
I had a 1969 w-31 I drove to high school. It was burgundy with white stripes on hood, white vinyl top, 4 speed with 3:90 gears,white bucket seat interior with no console. I knew the car was special but didn’t know the actual production numbers until it was long gone. Sure wish I’d kept it.
I had a 71 SX w/455 on high school. Until my friend drove it off the side of a mountain and almost killed all of us. Bought a 71 350 4sd 3.73 posi from the original owner for $125. It was pretty beat in 1992. Had 200k on it and had been both of his daughters first car. I got another 2 years of driving out of it. It could still bark 2nd gear with 200k
lol... 😁 yeah, you might say I really liked Oldsmobiles... shame they went away... I was speaking to a zone rep friend of mine for GM & he said he saw a W-31 in a barn & I said I believe it!, very rare car!
I had a 69 oldsmobile delta 88 4 door. The blue bomber was an appropriate name. It had 455 2 brl. 490lb ft of torque. Luckily I was in high school and could change back tires in shop class for free because it would burn the tires off pretty easily. The 4 wheel drum brakes took some getting used to if you know what I mean. Fun beater with endless torque. The 400 trans took a terrible beating and just kept going.
Those 400 trans are nearly indestructible. Had them in everything from a 69 Chevelle SS396 to a late 70s full-time 4 wheel drive Wagoneer. Never had one problem.
@@CarsAndZebras I was going about 45 and passed a street that I was supposed to turn on (late at night no traffic) so I threw it in reverse and floored it (4 drum brakes were useless) and roasted the tires in reverse while slowing to stop. Car started backing up finally and when I backed up far enough (100 yards) I threw it in drive while still going backwards (about 20mph) and the tires started roasting forward while I was still rolling backward until they finally stopped the car and I was able to make the turn. Trans didnt miss a beat. I was young and dumb and beat the crap out of that car. I even took it off road and rammed through some snow banks many times. Did I mention I was young and dumb? Lol
That Olds is definitely no slouch. Any time I see an old Olds I think about when I was little my dad had a 66 Delta 88. It had the 425 engine. He had taken it to a mechanic for a valve job if I remember correctly. And on the way home the transmission started not shifting right. He got mad figuring the trans was going out and just held it in the floor cussing trying to blow it up. It finally shifted or something at 90 and barked the tires real big. I know it was 90 because I was standing in the back looking at the spedo over his shoulder cause I'd never gone that fast. Turns out a line or linkage was off from the work. I always had more respect for the old boat after that trip.
You know what my dad drove when I was growing up? ‘91 Plymouth Acclaim... there was no going 90 mph in that car. I tell you what, though, that thing was great at requiring a front end alignment every week.
@@CarsAndZebras Pops had his car T boned right in the driveway when I was a teen. Whoo was he heated about the whole thing, cause the insurance always screwed you over. Ever seen a Saab 900 turbo do reverse donuts on pavement and bash down dirt roads faster than any dirt bike ever could ? We caught some good air a few times. We had a fun time trying to blow the sucker up 😂
What is it with all the crybabies complaining about “fairness” on these videos? Just shut up and enjoy the free RUclips video in front of you. At least in these cases we get to see some atypical matches.
60s Oldsmobiles were best n mid-range and topend racing. That little small block did a magnificent job. If i was the RR 440/390 hp guy, I'd hideout for several months.
Your presentations are getting more clever by the upload! Keep um coming. I'm not sure if Sox ran slicks on his RR, but Car Craft ran a 70 Charger 440+6 with a 10 inch slick and got it into the 11s. That was a 4 speed car as well.
Ahhh yes....Mid Michigan Motorplex.... I've blown up motors from the burn out box all the way out to the traps out there....horrible memories! LOL I started building 500" strokers for my 66 Coronet and learned a few small details the hard way. One, NEVER let a Chevy guy talk you into running a 5.13:1 rear gear ratio behind a big block mopar...especially not a stroker and really really never if you don't know that steel valve spring retainers will crank at 10,000 RPM. I blew that one up bad...almost wrecked the car but steered out of it. That was the only rendition that I ran carburated, and under 15.5:1 compression ratio. I picked up a new Enderle Mechanical Fuel Injection Bird Catcher, ran methanol and 15.5:1 from then on. Right after that I picked up my eighty something Dodge Omni bodied tube chassis car and ran in the low 9s. That darn car was light! I ended up doing 8.99 with it one time, went back, did some tuning and next pass, boom! Broke an axle! They were good Moser axles too. I stepped em up after that and still have the car. I'm going to blown hemi powered Duster bodied car this season. And I'll probably blow it up and Mid Michigan! LOL You gotta love drag racing!
I am pretty sure I saw a Olds like this on . I remember the gold engine . A neighbor had got a Olds across the street and I just loved it . A garage under the house in back to keep it safe . Gold with the black stripes Wicked.
My stepfather owned a 1969 Hurst Old mobile that he bought off the showroom floor. vented hood with hood pins, 350 BOSS with Hurst automatic. Silver metal flake with black rally striped hood and trunk lid. I remember it running an 1/8 in 7:00 flat, STOCK. With pump gas (leaded at the time) in my 52 years I've never seen a more bad assed car.
That was a totally miss matched race. Mopar had aa tremendos advantage. NHRA Would have classified the Olds as a B stock and the. "Beeper" as an A super stock. Olds did a helluva job against that factory race car.
The way the Pure stock drags works is all cars get 2 time trials , maybe 3 , and the owner picks the time he wants qualify with. Then the people that run the race pair up cars that are as close as possible in the owners picked time to run a best 2 out of 3, this is why these 2 cars were paired up. I raced there in 2006 with my 1969 Dart GTS 383 car.
Anytime a roadrunner is running I love watching, when I was a kid my older brother had a 68 roadrunner with the 383 & as a kid & as a grown-up now that was a cool car.
Amusing videos; here is a correction - the 69!/2 440 six barrel had compression ratio of 10.5, the other 440s had 10.1. Also, Plymouth's setup was called "six barrel"; Dodge's "six pack."
5:1 rear gear option? Holy smokes, Batman!! Numerically, the highest ratio I've ever heard of as a factory option. 👍 BTW, you confused numerically with high/low ratio in one of your vids. ICR, which tho. The only mistake that I've noticed. Great job! 1 point off for that and 1 point off for the flatulence. 98% not bad @ all 👍😀
As the owner of three Olds 442s, a "65, '66 and '69 (in the 60s), I feel qualified to say this shouldn't even have been a race. Super surprised by the performance of the Cutlass!
Brings back memories my very first car cutlass supreme in 1977 I paid $800 for it. It had the rocket 350 with the turbo 350 trans. For what it was it really got it .
Pontiac did a similar package available on the Lemans. A 350HO putting out 330HP and 380 lbs of torque all under 5100rpm but it that motor still made power to 6500 and stayed together. It was a 350 with a Ram Air 3 top end on it. And by the way there were no small or big block Olds or Pontiac engines just small or big cubic inches, same block intake and heads fit all.. My 69 Lemans had the 350HO a Muncie 4spd and a 4.10 gear and ran the quarter in the low 14s in the mid 90mph range. Seems GM was putting out sleepers in all makes in 69
@@theangrydragon182 For casual conversation, I'm fine with it. But if a history lesson is given on a particular car, then I expect that someone would do their homework and get the details right.
@@bman99ss - It's a RUclips video, so I'd expect people watching (like you) accept this free entertainment with a grain of salt and not be such a king douche. Let me guess... you have no real friends because you correct everyone you've come into contact with? Well, never mind. Most people like you don't realize they are so disliked.
@@theangrydragon182 Yes, it's free entertainment, so I would expect people watching (like you) to accept a mild (albeit accurate) critique with a grain of salt . . . especially when it's directed at someone else. By the way, it's been my experience that when individuals resort to name-calling, put-downs or insults, it's usually done so when there's a lack of meaningful substance to their argument. Just sayin' . . .
Olds had no small block, The difference was in the deck height of the blocks. The Old Block 303-394, 1949-1964, The new (lighter weight)Block 330 came out in 64 in the 442 and grew to the 455 and reduced to a 260 in 1975. The Aluminum 215 was a borrowed Buick small block. Good Video's!
A W-31 4-speed would have taken the RR. 4.057 in (103.0 mm) bore and Oldsmobile small-block standard 3.385 in (86.0 mm) stroke, The w31 has less torque so four speed is needed to get off the line quicker.
Best friends parents had a 69 442. Very underestimated! That car run like a raped ape! Lots of awesome friday nights! She was a heavy girl but awesome machine
This is pure bullshit, a more fair match up would have been a 335 Hp Road Runner, the Olds would have spanked one of those!, that it hung as well as it did with a 440 six pack is really something!
That first round was a very close race. The second round obviously wasn't a typical run for the Cutlass. It slowed down apparently for some reason. I think the commentator said that the driver heard something wrong in the valve train and didn't want to blow the engine after the years he put into the restoration. Notice on the first round, that the Road Runner was the quickest off the starting line, but the Cutlass was catching up with it, going down the track. The second round, the Cutlass was the quickest of the starting line, but slowed down drastically near the end of the race. Something was definitely up with the Cutlass.
The Oldsmobile looks ok, actually it looks great compared to ANYTHING available today. That powder blue color just doesn't do it for me. I used to have a powder blue 1972 VW bug. But the Roadrunner wins on looks alone, even if it had lost. The 1968-1970 Roadrunner is my all time favorite car. It's big and muscular, and I just love the rear roofline. It gives the rear of the car broad shoulders that just ooze testosterone. I sure wish you could get a new one for $25K today, I'd have one tomorrow. You can barely get a basket case for that today.
If that was my car the Matching # engine would be put away for safekeeping and a built engine would be in it's place that way if I blow it up I still got the Matching # engine at home
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At 7:02 it is supposed to say, “autonomous car FTW.” For some reason during the upload process it cut the message. Maybe RUclips will fix it at some point.
Nah ,they won't.
I sent a pic with added text on messenger to a buddy, it was all upside down 😂
At least some of its there 🤣
@@MrTheHillfolk - 🤣
Olds, Chevrolet, Buick, Pontiac, GMC, and Cadillac are all owed by General Motors there’s really nothing that sets the cars apart other than different badges
@@davidbowman3487 BS, BUICK RULES ~~
This is a very gorgeous car
When I was a teenager there was a 69 W -- 31 four speed running around the neighborhood. I can still remember how wicked it sounded almost 40 years later.
Funny how we remember things like that. Oddly enough I still don’t remember my girlfriend’s birthday after 6 years together.
Cars And Zebras Don’t worry I bet she reminds you. 👍
I give these guys a lot of credit for bringing these cars out and running them. Takes a lot of guts to run these cars as they are worth a shit ton of $$$.
2-3 years ago a guy blew the engine on his ‘70 hemi cuda... think about that loss
@@CarsAndZebras ok I did, now what?
THERE'S A GUY RUNNING A 69 ZL1 CAMARO WORTH AROUND $600,000.00
That's what they were made for. Not doing smokey burnouts in cars like this, is the real crime!
WOW !...13.2 @106mph ? Fantastic time for the Olds ! At the local strip, back in ‘68, ‘69 the prepped W-31’s were running mid to high 12’s in NHRA’S F stock classes. The ‘68-‘69 W-30’s with the long stroke 400’s sat in D & E stock. In 1968 the Berejick W-30 442 held the record et. for it’s class @ 12.3 but more racers opted for the high reving W-31, which coupled with the lower stock class, gave it an edge where wins were concerned. In 1970 the 442 got the 455, which resulted in et.’s in the mid 11’s. The 442 was bumped from D/E stock down to F-stock, while the W-31 went to G-stock. Oldsmobiles were super competitive in the stock classes back then...Sunday afternoons at the strip, watching cars I’d see driving around town, burning the quarter mile ! I myself raced a stock Duster 340....14.5’s @ 97mph...right out of the box, with a 3.23 posi rear-end and torqueflight 3 speed automatic. Fantastic little car, but after a ride in a 1970 W-31....big respect for the Cutlass !
Agreed 👍
I just watched a matchup on the C&Z page that pitted a 70 340 Demon 4 spd against a ‘65 L78 Corvette. The Demon seemed to own the lowly solid lifter, big valve 396 and consistently (ahem) did something low 13’s. My head was spinning. Your 14.5 was QUICK and quite representative of what I remember too. The revisionist history of these races is silly. It was what it was and it is what it is.
@@MrBluzhoundI seen that race also, my brother had a 72 Plymouth Cuda and our cousin wanted to race him with his 70 SS 396 Chevelle the Cuda 340 beat the Chevelle 396, the 340 was called a giant killer.
Dad always on about a 340 Duster for cheap horsepower potential
I'm a Mopar guy, but that W31 needs to be respected!!
Glad you prefaced that comment with your personal brand loyalty Ryan. It's important to know what type of guy you are before we can consider respecting anything.
Mopar guy as well... That Olds could run.
The W 31 Vs a 383 Road Runner would have been a more even match IMO.. Only 10 HP difference...
Probably W 31s stock did about the same..
@@RoadRunnergarage8570 they did.couple magazines got mid 14's out of automatic ones.
300 pounds less , and those steep gears really made that thing move though, he wasn't too far behind.
Hope he didn't hurt it too bad
The Oldsmobile would have destroyed Roadrunner 383 it barely lost to the 4:40
I encountered a W31 convertible at our local track running 13.9's. It was a college kid who knew nothing, I asked to look at his motor, it was filthy. A friend had a '68 Camaro 396-375, ran 13.80's with Lakewood bars, later in life he paid $300 for a '67 Chevelle factory 4 speed car with a 350 LT-1 block, stock Z-28 cam, but 275 hp heads, cast manifold and a Q-jet (roundy-round racer repair to dump the car). It ran 13.50's all day long and killed on the street. Takes all kinds!
Great video , nothing beats Oldsmobile quality and rareness, I think everyone is sick of Camaros and Chevelle’s. Go W-Machines 🚀🚀🚀
Buick beats OLDS
You never get tired of a bad ass car!!!
@@fanoboss
Put a Cadillac motor in either for the win.
@@johntempest267 "MERICA. !!!!
Well... The Plymouth beat it twice.
Just saying.
Definitely can't blame any of these guys backing out from mechanical mayhem being avoided,especially preventable kinds they can diagnose before KABLOOEY!!!! I love these cars and videos and certainly don't want any demolished for anything!!! Thanks to you and the owners sharing their beloved baby's with us!!!!!
I’m a MOPAR guy, but that Oldsmobile has nothing to be ashamed of.
13.21 is damn fast!
Man I've been binge watching these episodes the past few days since I found them. I really enjoy this class of stock racing, and seeing what some of these fabled cars will truly do on a drag strip. You definitely earned a sub.
Agreed 👍
My father had a '67 Olds Cutlass W30 for about two months - before a drunk driver rear-ended him. He never got the opportunity to hit the drag strip with it, but I remember him hammering through the gears on the street and having a big grin on his face the whole while. I recall helping him removing the gold colored 400CID engine and M21 transmission after the accident and thinking how cool it was that the engine was gold, like it was a rare piece of precious metal - which it ended up being. Always thought that Olds was the sharpest car on the road, at the time.
Olds had some great designs, especially in the late 60s. I almost bought a 69 442 a couple months back but the price was a little too high.
What did he do with the mother and transmission?
Friggin spell check
@@maximumcoverage5591 but soooooooo Cars and Zebras.
He put that mother and transmission in another roller and made pies and cookies!
That 400 was the best 442 platform, period. Olds effed up inn68 with a corporate 400 that was a DOG by comparison. The 65.5-67 400 was a 4.00x3.975” perfect screamer platform.
Had a 68 Olds Vista Cruiser Station Wagon. It was a beater in 79 but it had a Rocket 350 4 barrel. Sure wish I'd have kept.
Love those Vista Cruisers!
@@CarsAndZebras In early episodes of that 70s show. My favorite station wagon. Imagine one with a 455 and towing package. 12 bolt posi and TH400 with cooler. They exist.
@@jeffnorbert1871
The show that made those go out of sight on price.
The buick version was pretty slick too. The sport wagon I think it was
I bought a ‘70 W-31 in 1979 for $600 because the starter needed brushes. The owner was pissed because he couldn’t figure out why it started fine when cool but not once it warmed up. ( The moral of the story is you learn a lot about cars when you drive clunkers. ) lol
Car & Zebrs you are the best.
Oldsmobile W 31 my absolutely absolutely favorite Oldsmobile.
1968 my favorite with the little Ram Rod stickers on the guards but a truly unknown underrated sleeper of a muscle car.
Absolutely a big block killer, everyone talks about the Chevrolet
L 79 & LT 1 etc but I think the Old's W 31 is just the small block of all small block's in the GM arsenal.
You ask your typical Chevy Guy or most muscle car people & hatdly anyone has heard of a W 31 everyone has heard of W 30 but not the 31.
By the way record amount of W 30 this week at Mecum Kissimmee never seen so many & they have fallen in price a fair bit.
Yes I am a Mopar Guy through & through but I have a huge soft spot for Old's as well.
That A 12 had it's work cut out for it big time considering the Old's was 90 cubic smaller puts another meaning to
" No substitute for Cubes " except if it is a W 31.
That was a pure sex on wheels
W 31 just gorgeous pure fantasy.
Another awesome video again what a way to start the day in smokey choking Melbourne Australia.
The bushfire's smoke has choked the city for over a week now.
Your number 1 Fan in Australia
Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍
I have also noticed that the Olds are dropping in price, but a lot of muscle cars seem to be taking a hit right now. stay away from the fires! 🔥
Now those are some cool cars. I don’t care if one’s a small block, and the others big block. Nice match. Would have liked a 3rd round.
Very cool! 😎
You seriously need to stop spamming this channel
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@@413x398 - I will shortly. Just want to make sure that he gets the notification first with my response.
i never considered a 350 olds to be a small block
I owned a 70 w-31..4 spd..4.33 gears..shifted at 6800 rpm.. absolutely the one I should have kept..street raced it in nc..tenn and south Miami
Black with white strips on the ram- air hood..white interior
Roadrunner makes an a oviously smashing beep beep!! 🚗💨 on those 2 Rounds, poor Oldsmobile, a Chrysler 440 vs a GM 350 isn't a quite fair competition but , giving credit to the 350 it did a good effort.
Guy with the W31 is a. Really cool dude. We where pitted next to him some 10 years ago @ Byron dragway and I remember when it was being raced as a survivor car. The restoration on it is amazing. As a olds guy and die hard small block olds guy this car is one of my favorites.
I had a 1969 w-31 I drove to high school. It was burgundy with white stripes on hood, white vinyl top, 4 speed with 3:90 gears,white bucket seat interior with no console. I knew the car was special but didn’t know the actual production numbers until it was long gone. Sure wish I’d kept it.
I had a 71 SX w/455 on high school. Until my friend drove it off the side of a mountain and almost killed all of us. Bought a 71 350 4sd 3.73 posi from the original owner for $125. It was pretty beat in 1992. Had 200k on it and had been both of his daughters first car. I got another 2 years of driving out of it. It could still bark 2nd gear with 200k
Nothing better than laughing my ass off first thing on a Monday morning. Thanks C&Z!
Thanks for watching!
Olds knew how to "Rocket" 🚀
Pretty cool car
A pun for the ages right there
lol... 😁 yeah, you might say I really liked Oldsmobiles... shame they went away... I was speaking to a zone rep friend of mine for GM & he said he saw a W-31 in a barn & I said I believe it!, very rare car!
rocketed the valve train....lol!
@@marioncobaretti2280 Good one... I preferred adjustable rockers... 😁
I had a 69 oldsmobile delta 88 4 door. The blue bomber was an appropriate name. It had 455 2 brl. 490lb ft of torque. Luckily I was in high school and could change back tires in shop class for free because it would burn the tires off pretty easily. The 4 wheel drum brakes took some getting used to if you know what I mean. Fun beater with endless torque. The 400 trans took a terrible beating and just kept going.
Those 400 trans are nearly indestructible. Had them in everything from a 69 Chevelle SS396 to a late 70s full-time 4 wheel drive Wagoneer. Never had one problem.
@@CarsAndZebras I was going about 45 and passed a street that I was supposed to turn on (late at night no traffic) so I threw it in reverse and floored it (4 drum brakes were useless) and roasted the tires in reverse while slowing to stop. Car started backing up finally and when I backed up far enough (100 yards) I threw it in drive while still going backwards (about 20mph) and the tires started roasting forward while I was still rolling backward until they finally stopped the car and I was able to make the turn. Trans didnt miss a beat. I was young and dumb and beat the crap out of that car. I even took it off road and rammed through some snow banks many times. Did I mention I was young and dumb? Lol
@@tabbott429 - ok, I never quite did that with mine. 🤣
That Olds is definitely no slouch. Any time I see an old Olds I think about when I was little my dad had a 66 Delta 88. It had the 425 engine. He had taken it to a mechanic for a valve job if I remember correctly. And on the way home the transmission started not shifting right. He got mad figuring the trans was going out and just held it in the floor cussing trying to blow it up. It finally shifted or something at 90 and barked the tires real big. I know it was 90 because I was standing in the back looking at the spedo over his shoulder cause I'd never gone that fast. Turns out a line or linkage was off from the work. I always had more respect for the old boat after that trip.
Haha I always loved it when dad got a bug up his ass, and let the car have it !!!
Do it again Dad!!!!
You know what my dad drove when I was growing up? ‘91 Plymouth Acclaim... there was no going 90 mph in that car. I tell you what, though, that thing was great at requiring a front end alignment every week.
@@CarsAndZebras
Pops had his car T boned right in the driveway when I was a teen.
Whoo was he heated about the whole thing, cause the insurance always screwed you over.
Ever seen a Saab 900 turbo do reverse donuts on pavement and bash down dirt roads faster than any dirt bike ever could ?
We caught some good air a few times.
We had a fun time trying to blow the sucker up 😂
The Road Runner A12 is invincible! One of the most bad-ass cars of all time! Perfect video!
Thanks for watching!
Absolutely, i had 2 lift off hood Super Bee's.
The 70 Buick gsx would beat the a12 and hemi invincible my ass
You could say the W 31 was Oldsmobiles response to the Plymouth Road Runner...
Zing!
Not really Oldsmobile’s cost much more than a roadrunner which was the poor mans muscle car.
The f-85 model was lighter then the cutlass.
What is it with all the crybabies complaining about “fairness” on these videos? Just shut up and enjoy the free RUclips video in front of you. At least in these cases we get to see some atypical matches.
RUclips isn't free. Like all social media we, the user are the product being sold to 3rd parties. But yeah, enjoy the video.
That’s racist!🙊😱
indeed but in organized racing these cars would be handicapped. In this case the Olds would have gotten a head start.
I’m really liking the color on that Olds!
Totally killer! 😎
60s Oldsmobiles were best n mid-range and topend racing. That little small block did a magnificent job. If i was the RR 440/390 hp guy, I'd hideout for several months.
The Rocket was a sweet motor it had a heavy cam sound owned two 350s and 455 Hurst.glory days. 👍
Should have been a 455 Oldsmobile Cutlass vs 440 Road Runner or at least a 400.
440-6 vs 350 Olds and even then floated a valve. They both ran way hard
That W 31 is a sleeper...
Definitely. If you don’t see that 442 badge or W-30.... could be easy to ignore.
yeh i agree , i feel like taking a nap after watching it run !
Your presentations are getting more clever by the upload! Keep um coming. I'm not sure if Sox ran slicks on his RR, but Car Craft ran a 70 Charger 440+6 with a 10 inch slick and got it into the 11s. That was a 4 speed car as well.
He might have put slicks on it, I’m not sure. Thanks for watching!
Car craft later explained it was downhill. I’m calling foul.
Ahhh yes....Mid Michigan Motorplex.... I've blown up motors from the burn out box all the way out to the traps out there....horrible memories! LOL I started building 500" strokers for my 66 Coronet and learned a few small details the hard way. One, NEVER let a Chevy guy talk you into running a 5.13:1 rear gear ratio behind a big block mopar...especially not a stroker and really really never if you don't know that steel valve spring retainers will crank at 10,000 RPM. I blew that one up bad...almost wrecked the car but steered out of it. That was the only rendition that I ran carburated, and under 15.5:1 compression ratio. I picked up a new Enderle Mechanical Fuel Injection Bird Catcher, ran methanol and 15.5:1 from then on. Right after that I picked up my eighty something Dodge Omni bodied tube chassis car and ran in the low 9s. That darn car was light! I ended up doing 8.99 with it one time, went back, did some tuning and next pass, boom! Broke an axle! They were good Moser axles too. I stepped em up after that and still have the car. I'm going to blown hemi powered Duster bodied car this season. And I'll probably blow it up and Mid Michigan! LOL You gotta love drag racing!
I am pretty sure I saw a Olds like this on . I remember the gold engine . A neighbor had got a Olds across the street and I just loved it . A garage under the house in back to keep it safe . Gold with the black stripes Wicked.
Put the MOPAR up against a 1970 Cutlass SX 455, and the results would have been much different ...
Very respectable for a car with a 90 cubic inch disadvantage.. Those in the know have oldsmobiles. A 455 would of smoked it..
Great video. The w31 really is one of the coolest cars ever. Only olds could make a factory small block that could keep up with a 6bbl big block!
4.33 rear gear really helped. 302 chev was also another nasty small block that would walk a big block at the strip. Needed a 4.11 minimum though
A W30 455 would give the Roadrunner a run for it's money.
That W31 can really wind out quickly. Very impressive!
I was in the service in 1969 bought a brand new Oldsmobile 442 w30 black on black with a 4-speed man I wish I had that car today
My stepfather owned a 1969 Hurst Old mobile that he bought off the showroom floor. vented hood with hood pins, 350 BOSS with Hurst automatic. Silver metal flake with black rally striped hood and trunk lid.
I remember it running an 1/8 in 7:00 flat, STOCK. With pump gas (leaded at the time) in my 52 years I've never seen a more bad assed car.
Mopars just keep getting faster the more often your foot is in it ....What an awesome screamin' RR!!! & a very sweet Oldsmobile!!!
High 12s in very fast for a 350! Sweet Olds! 😄
That was a totally miss matched race. Mopar had aa tremendos advantage. NHRA Would have classified the Olds as a B stock and the. "Beeper" as an A super stock. Olds did a helluva job against that factory race car.
The way the Pure stock drags works is all cars get 2 time trials , maybe 3 , and the owner picks the time he wants qualify with. Then the people that run the race pair up cars that are as close as possible in the owners picked time to run a best 2 out of 3, this is why these 2 cars were paired up. I raced there in 2006 with my 1969 Dart GTS 383 car.
Two very cool cars, not a fair fight tho.
Should have matched up with a 340 Demon/Duster or a 442.
I worked at a restoration shop out of high school in 1990s and got to take a ride in a 1970 w-30 442 before tear down. That thing was a monster.
A monster that was 300# too heavy to be a Chevy.
Anytime a roadrunner is running I love watching, when I was a kid my older brother had a 68 roadrunner with the 383 & as a kid & as a grown-up now that was a cool car.
THAT IS ONE NASTY OLDS.....and Props to my mopars
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Amusing videos; here is a correction - the 69!/2 440 six barrel had compression ratio of 10.5, the other 440s had 10.1. Also, Plymouth's setup was called "six barrel"; Dodge's "six pack."
Yes and the olds have 11.5 I believe
I had a 1970 cutlass s with a 350 , it was a real nice running car. like your channel.
The Olds had that second race until he had engine trouble. Both beautiful cars.
Theres a 72 cutlass for sale where I life, needs fixed up and I need to find the owner since he didnt right name of number but I'm gonna try to get it
aluminum intake was only on the '70 w31.
the green w-31 you see in the background actually dynoed a true 325 hp,and ran low 14's.
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John Dillinger wouldn't steal anything but a Ford.
@@daleostrom3613 became he could not catch up to the olds in his ford to steal it!!!!
@@darinmcdonnell712You obviously don't not know the story of John Dillinger.
Poor baby olds... I'm praying for her
5:1 rear gear option? Holy smokes, Batman!!
Numerically, the highest ratio I've ever heard of as a factory option. 👍
BTW, you confused numerically with high/low ratio in one of your vids. ICR, which tho.
The only mistake that I've noticed. Great job! 1 point off for that and 1 point off for the flatulence. 98% not bad @ all 👍😀
The terms “high” or “low” weren’t even used when discussing rear gear ratios, so you get 1 point off for that comment.
@@CarsAndZebras bet?
@@CarsAndZebras it wasn't this vid. I just happened to remember it from another one.
As the owner of three Olds 442s, a "65, '66 and '69 (in the 60s), I feel qualified to say this shouldn't even have been a race. Super surprised by the performance of the Cutlass!
Brings back memories my very first car cutlass supreme in 1977 I paid $800 for it. It had the rocket 350 with the turbo 350 trans. For what it was it really got it .
I like both Mopar and GM Muscle. Roadrunner all day long!!👍🏁
Wow. Very cool, both cars. Thanks
I like the races, follow this channel, but always skip the annoying narrative. Yes, I'd like to hear what the cars features have, etc, but, Dude!
ditto on the lame narratives!
I would love to see an sd 421 in a cat or a tempest !
Pontiac did a similar package available on the Lemans. A 350HO putting out 330HP and 380 lbs of torque all under 5100rpm but it that motor still made power to 6500 and stayed together. It was a 350 with a Ram Air 3 top end on it. And by the way there were no small or big block Olds or Pontiac engines just small or big cubic inches, same block intake and heads fit all..
My 69 Lemans had the 350HO a Muncie 4spd and a 4.10 gear and ran the quarter in the low 14s in the mid 90mph range. Seems GM was putting out sleepers in all makes in 69
I remember reading about the W31, but never saw one...very impressive ...Would have fared well against any Chev. 350.
Definitely give any other small block a run for its money! 👍
383 started out at $3,083. Ironic!! : )
You know what? I did not even notice that 😏
Whoa, EPIC catch dude
@@glennfalzo3718 As I often say....what we'd give to have a time machine, a suitcase full of cash and plenty of hindsight!
Here for my dose of innuendo, plays on words, and dirty jokes about bad ass muscle cars!
Ask and ye shall receive
I’m a big olds fan. Had a few. Always great cars. But I have to say that blue is hideous
Darn...That 350 Olds engine is a Rocket! (Pun intended)
Zing 😏
Love the video very entertaining keep them coming 👍
Hi I was wondering if you could feature another Max wedge car from the early 60s if so please let me know
Yes, I do have footage of another Max wedge coming at some point this year.
@@CarsAndZebras ok
You have to be a masochist to try to take on a 440 6 pack with a Olds 350 W31!
The Olds got out of the hole way quicker on the second pass. I was expecting it to smoke the Roadrunner, but gotta go with mechanical issues.
Interesting race, but a more fair race would have been an actual W30 against the Plymouth A12 equipped Road Runner. Thumb up anyway. ;-)
Unfortunately, there weren’t any W30s at he Pure Stocks his year. Maybe next year we’ll see one
Who remembers those Dr. Olds ads?
I DO LES, I DO! You for one, have a great memory!
Man these are great. Thank you!!
LA Beast reference was top tier 👌🏽😂
I've got a 1970 Cutlass Supreme in that color. Now I know the name of it!
Remember: The 6-barrel set up on Plymouths was not called 6 pack. Only Dodge called that set up Six Pack.
Oh come on, everyone still calls them both six-packs, regardless of original naming.
The Angry Dragon
Non-purist!! Off with your head!!!!!!!
@@theangrydragon182 For casual conversation, I'm fine with it. But if a history lesson is given on a particular car, then I expect that someone would do their homework and get the details right.
@@bman99ss - It's a RUclips video, so I'd expect people watching (like you) accept this free entertainment with a grain of salt and not be such a king douche. Let me guess... you have no real friends because you correct everyone you've come into contact with? Well, never mind. Most people like you don't realize they are so disliked.
@@theangrydragon182 Yes, it's free entertainment, so I would expect people watching (like you) to accept a mild (albeit accurate) critique with a grain of salt . . . especially when it's directed at someone else. By the way, it's been my experience that when individuals resort to name-calling, put-downs or insults, it's usually done so when there's a lack of meaningful substance to their argument. Just sayin' . . .
Say Car Ram Rod!!! Ohhh, but I wrote it on the paper!!
Olds had no small block, The difference was in the deck height of the blocks. The Old Block 303-394, 1949-1964, The new (lighter weight)Block 330 came out in 64 in the 442 and grew to the 455 and reduced to a 260 in 1975. The Aluminum 215 was a borrowed Buick small block. Good Video's!
Jesus drove an Oldsmobile
I beat one of these W-30 several times at S.I.R. so bad that he eventually bought my 1970 Dodge R/T 440 six-pak CHallenger that blew his doors off.
Mopar or no car baby 🔥
cool car tums upp for the oldsmobile and the roadrunner bep bep
Olds vs Roadrunner !!
My Mother took her driving lessons in a 69 Cutless/Gutless !!
I'm guessing momma didn't drive a w-31
I was brought home as a baby in a 69 RR 383 Hurst 4 Speed, Green. Sure wish I had that. The Olds are great too, I miss good old Pontiac
the beep-beep machine was one fine ride, too bad they aren't made today
A W-31 4-speed would have taken the RR. 4.057 in (103.0 mm) bore and Oldsmobile small-block standard 3.385 in (86.0 mm) stroke, The w31 has less torque so four speed is needed to get off the line quicker.
Best friends parents had a 69 442. Very underestimated! That car run like a raped ape! Lots of awesome friday nights! She was a heavy girl but awesome machine
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This is pure bullshit, a more fair match up would have been a 335 Hp Road Runner, the Olds would have spanked one of those!, that it hung as well as it did with a 440 six pack is really something!
Wow, i didn't think many other people knew about Dirty Honey (talking about the intro song).
Many a big block Mopar got smoked,by small block GM's,at the strip and on the street.
thankyou roadrunner! i knew you you could do it !
The Road Runners always do well in the Pure Stocks
That first round was a very close race. The second round obviously wasn't a typical run for the Cutlass. It slowed down apparently for some reason. I think the commentator said that the driver heard something wrong in the valve train and didn't want to blow the engine after the years he put into the restoration. Notice on the first round, that the Road Runner was the quickest off the starting line, but the Cutlass was catching up with it, going down the track. The second round, the Cutlass was the quickest of the starting line, but slowed down drastically near the end of the race. Something was definitely up with the Cutlass.
The olds also redlit on the start of the second race
and the base car,F85 post was much lighter;much quicker.
The Oldsmobile looks ok, actually it looks great compared to ANYTHING available today. That powder blue color just doesn't do it for me. I used to have a powder blue 1972 VW bug. But the Roadrunner wins on looks alone, even if it had lost. The 1968-1970 Roadrunner is my all time favorite car. It's big and muscular, and I just love the rear roofline. It gives the rear of the car broad shoulders that just ooze testosterone. I sure wish you could get a new one for $25K today, I'd have one tomorrow. You can barely get a basket case for that today.
The W-31 engine was hand built by Olds.
Both awesome cars
I would love to own both!
The owner of the W-31 that I waxed with my 440 Six-Pak Challenger R/T actually ended up buying my car. He was tired of being beat.
If that was my car the Matching # engine would be put away for safekeeping and a built engine would be in it's place that way if I blow it up I still got the Matching # engine at home