Played golf in Japan with a friend recently who owns one of these, and I was quite impressed by it. Black with the same colour interior as the video. Nice looking vehicle!
David, This is the return of the Toyota wagon so many of us have been waiting to see. 🥳🥳🥳🥳As an engineer, you must be intrigued by the 'innovative' rear seat extenders. To many of us, a classic 40/20/40 second row with an ability to slide and recline would be more useful to buyers looking to carry passengers in comfort. As well, long cargo like FISHING rods and skis would have been accommodated more easily. 🤔🤔 What a pity we CANADIANS can't buy the cheaper Signia XLE on its smoother 19" rims. 😭😭 As an aside, where does the ubiquitous Crown taxi we see in the background of your Japanese videos fit in the illustrious Crown hierarchy? 😉😉
The closest thing of having a Toyota wagon we have in US is the Highlander. If they dropped the ride height and chopped the roof a bit it would totally be it.
Yes, I see a lot of common of welcoming wagon back into the Toyota lineup but the question is will it sell. Historically station wagon does not sell well in North America. Look at the raised station wagon from Audi and Volvo. They are not volume sellers. The only exception is the Subaru Outback. The newer Mazda CX50 design is closer to a raised station wagon more than a SUV and it is yet to sell as well as the Mazda CX5. I do not think the Signia will sell well. The reason why Toyota is pulling the Venza from North American market is because it is cannibalizing the sales of the Lexus NX. Venza, a mid size SUV, competes well with the NX by offering all the luxury features like a Lexus at a lower price than the NX (a compact SUV)
Toyota claims that machining debris was left in the engines, and that is why the engines are failing. If that were true, then why is one certain rod spinning bearings? I think it’s an engineering mistake on the lower end of the block.
@@Karmazov i agree. Darn shame for those that bought these expensive trucks. My 2016 Tundra had the dreaded oil leak from the cam towers; another expensive and major repair.
Great commentary on this video David. I like that you share your thoughts on the wagon vs. Suv vs. Crossover terminology. I agree nothing wrong with wagon. Also, your thoughts on the heritage of the Crown nameplate. I feel similar about the BMW and Subaru collabs and the supra nameplate. Also, very graceful and classy way of communicating the failure in the gap test
I love it! Sorry to say, I want with an up scale Outback. I went with a short term lease, so I can get Signia this time next year. I checked out the Crown, it was so much better than the reviews. I can’t wait. Thanks for your review of the next great vehicle. I agree, Toyota should change the name to Estate.
I doubt that it drives like a Mazda which has stiffer suspensions in order to offer better driving dynamics and handling. Signia will have a softer ride.
Good video, David. And thank you. I agree, if "Crown" (also called "Corona" and "Cressida" here in the past) is truly the most upscale Toyota product you can buy without going to Lexus, then it needs that Crown emblem, not the linked hoops badge. I wish they'd bring that Crown sedan here, but as the next Lexus ES 350! 🐰
@@Pamlicojdjdj1487 I know, I’ve driven one. It’s a slightly raised sedan. The center of gravity is higher than my 2020 Avalon and you feel it around curves. It sits slightly higher than the old/new Camry too. As a flagship model for Toyota (in the U.S.), it has better noise dampening. So these are some of the issues I am considering in whether to go with 2025/6 Camry or Crown.
In my opinion... Since Crown has been absent in the US for decades, average Americans may not be familiar with the name and emblem anymore. So, Toyota's decision just go with the Toyota emblem makes sense.
@@LSDOGWALKER At one point in video David states that Camry is made in Japan. I’m just curious which model he may have mixed up with Camry. Always love David’s content!
@@NateTrump2010 At the Tsutsumi Plant in Japan, they produce multiple models including the Crown Signia and the Camry (for domestic/Asian market). The Camry sold in the US/Canada are produced in Kentucky. So it's not an error, I just meant that the plant also produces Camry (but not the ones exported to North America).
Awesome video, beautiful vehicle, loved the history bit, like to learn something new always! My parents owned a Chevy wagon, fun memories. I would definitely upgrade to this, wish they had more than two options thought. 🤔💙
Hi David, good day! As an expert on Toyota, do you have any idea why Crown Signia Limited has no HUD and manual tilt/telescopic steering wheel when high tier Crown models in Japan have these feature. Avalon had these features outside of Japan and the replacement “tier” doesn’t is baffling to me.
Hey David, What’s up with the extended QC hold on Land Cruisers and GX550? What’s the issue? No one wants to address the subject. Is it the sunroof drain? If it’s only the sunroof why is Toyota/Lexus not being transparent?
Nice vehicle ... but the design is too sporty.. And the roofline is way too low.. If Toyota would have taken a page from the Landcruiser and made the Signia with about a 3 to 4 inch higher roofline and more a boxy design - this would have been a very very nice vehicle.. Especially this higher roofline design would be better for the American market where Americans are taller and like (and need) more cabin room..
Could you tell the chief engineer that crown sport is also important here? We also want the corolla wagon that the UK gets & we don't. We're a larger market, there's no reason not to give us the corolla wagon.
David why doesn’t Toyota have lumber adjustment for the front passenger on their vehicles? And not just this one. Why is there a tunnel hump on the rear passenger floor? There’s no driveshaft.
We have both, I prefer the limited venza than the crown crossover cause of the ground clearance and it's more comfortable, also the venza has a spare tire, the signia will not but we have it in the crown crossover
I'm going to go with an inline six and RWD, which is the CX-70. Ironically the CX-70 is more in line what the traditional Crowns should be, a rear wheel drive sedan with an inline six engine, although in the past base configurations can have four cylinders.
@@ChrisRobato yeah, the Mazda has a more lux foundation and seemingly tighter, more consistent panel gaps... If only Mazda had a smaller version of the CX-70... Crown Signia has a smaller footprint, and its FWD foundation gives it plenty of space... IF only Mazda would make the next CX-5 a RWD hybrid... or better yet, make a RWD Mazda 3 or 6... you know, just totally be the Japanese BMW, lol
@@ChrisRobato right. But that's not in America... And isn't it bigger on the outside than the CX-5? I heard CX-50 is the main reason we don't get the CX-60, and CX-50 is ~6 inches longer than CX-5
@@brandononbrand Yeah. Other countries don't get the CX-50, they get the CX-60 instead. But the CX-50 reminds me of Mazda's take on the outdoorsy Forrester while the CX-60 feels more like a Lexus NX competitor in style. The US doesn't get the CX-80 either. Keep in mind the CX-60 is RWD and uses the new inline six. It would need to be longer in order to maintain the same interior space.
How about a video on the Tundra recall for engine problems? Toyota/Lexus owners are more interested in engineering and build excellence than frills. Long life with minimal repairs is what we want. Listen up Toyota!
Please tell me that someone has driven it at night. I may buy one of these because my wife has a bad knee and recently had surgery. The car has more room in the front seat than most pickups. Definitely more legroom and it’s wider too. But the headlights look experimental. I will get to test drive it in a couple weeks and it fits us perfectly. Why move the headlights to the bumper. This is a major difference from any car I have ever driven. Advantage could be that a won’t blind the car ahead of me. I will test drive it after dark
I just want to look at the Century. That is the definition of Luxury. Was able to sit in the 90s Century model and boi...The Japanese know what they are doing.
Crown emblem is a must. Exterior design and wagon-like shape is amazing but I think this car ultimately falls a bit flat imo. Unfortunate because I was very excited for it.
Since you care so much about the brand . While you were there in Japan , did you asked the engineers about the V6 recall BS and if is going to affect the GX550 ?
Tell them that literally millions of American women would want a suv with a crown on it!!! We are all queens and princesses here. You will sell so many more with crown logo. We argue among friends who is really the queen COME ON!!!!!!!😂
"Wagon" is only a bad word to an older generation. Does "wagon" really still have that baggage with younger generations? I think wagons could do well in America, if car makers gave them a real chance... the few wagons we've gotten in recent decades have been severely compromised. We never got wagons with all the features you get in crossovers, etc
Engineer's Review? Really? Tell us about the brakes, the headlights (why is there only one lamp per side compared to 4 LEDs per side for the Crown Sedan). Why is it $14,000 more than the new Camry. Does the engine start/stop while driving? How is the rear visibility? Does it have a normal spare tire? Honestly, if this guy was employed by me I would tell him to add another 5 minutes addressing specific questions any buyer would have. I respect this guy from past reviews, but this review is woefully superficial and incomplete.
Disappointed in Toyota. Tundra issues and other model issues. They need to dump the failure engine and bring back the 5.7 and dump the new platform. Turning radius terrible compared to my 07 Crewmax. David, I think Toyota not the same as when you worked for them. Wanted to add, when the Crown came out last year my first impression when I saw at the dealer was the old Acura ZDX. The new grill however does not give the feeling of luxury which youd expect from the Crown lineage. Disappointed.
One thing toyota is known for is listening to their customer base and adjusting. If enough people bring this up i have no doubt they will address the issue.
Not gonna happen. The auto industry is global and fuel economy and emissions standards have been set. Toyota has retooled for the tundra and an 8 cylinder isn’t part of it.
I’m okay with the new design. Looks more modern and stylish than old school luxury. But will have to see it in person. Go with Lexus for the classic luxury look.
I reviewed this car at a focus group in OC, Calif. I was selected bc we had purchased a Venza. It is bigger than a Venza but not worth the extra $10k. For the extra $10k get the NX350H. Noone in the USA knows or appreciates Crown but to be truthful this is a goofy looking car and I do not like the front grill.
do not mistaken the CVT (terrible) with the eCVT (god-tier) that Toyota produces. The eCVT is not even a CVT in any way either, it's just a poor choice of names but please look into eCVTs, I'm sure David might even have a video about that!
Crown nameplate is meaningless IMO. This is an elevated Toyota period, just like the 21-24 Venza tried to be. So Toyota discontinues the Avalon and renames it Crown thinking Americans will spend more money and buy into the Crown heritage. Crown is meaningless to me. This isn’t close to a Japanese Crown and btw, Toyota (not Crown) is pricing it like something special. It’s not, it’s just an overpriced Toyota and this comes from someone who fell for the hype and purchased a 21 Venza Limited which at $44,000, is 6-8 thousand less expensive than this thing. No HUD, no power assist for the steering wheel, no opening sunroof, no 4-way lumbar support for the driver, no Turbo max engine option at over $51,000? I’m glad Toyota Included leather instead of the imitation crap and improved the interior and infotainment over the Venza. Toyota quality, my rear hatch struts just went at 31,000 miles and 3 years. It’s a known problem for Toyota. $1000.00 to replace both struts. Hopefully the “Crown” is using better parts! Thankfully I have an extended warranty.
NO THANK YOU! Not for over $50K. It's too big! It won't fit in my standard two-car garage. I would have to park it outside, a $50K vehicle that I can't park in my garage? NO!!! I don't need something so large, but I do like the luxury, so I will buy the VENZA instead!
Loving the sporty look. But, why not classified as a crossover? I agree with you on the nameplate/badging. Esp if it's going to be priced close to the Grand Highlander or Lexus.
Played golf in Japan with a friend recently who owns one of these, and I was quite impressed by it. Black with the same colour interior as the video. Nice looking vehicle!
Crown emblem is a must
The Crown emblem on the true Crown Sedan = new car purchase. 💴💵.
Seriously. No crown emblem, I'm out.
Im sure you can buy the oem emblem from japanese sellers.
David, This is the return of the Toyota wagon so many of us have been waiting to see. 🥳🥳🥳🥳As an engineer, you must be intrigued by the 'innovative' rear seat extenders. To many of us, a classic 40/20/40 second row with an ability to slide and recline would be more useful to buyers looking to carry passengers in comfort. As well, long cargo like FISHING rods and skis would have been accommodated more easily. 🤔🤔 What a pity we CANADIANS can't buy the cheaper Signia XLE on its smoother 19" rims. 😭😭 As an aside, where does the ubiquitous Crown taxi we see in the background of your Japanese videos fit in the illustrious Crown hierarchy? 😉😉
The closest thing of having a Toyota wagon we have in US is the Highlander. If they dropped the ride height and chopped the roof a bit it would totally be it.
Yes, I see a lot of common of welcoming wagon back into the Toyota lineup but the question is will it sell. Historically station wagon does not sell well in North America. Look at the raised station wagon from Audi and Volvo. They are not volume sellers. The only exception is the Subaru Outback. The newer Mazda CX50 design is closer to a raised station wagon more than a SUV and it is yet to sell as well as the Mazda CX5. I do not think the Signia will sell well. The reason why Toyota is pulling the Venza from North American market is because it is cannibalizing the sales of the Lexus NX. Venza, a mid size SUV, competes well with the NX by offering all the luxury features like a Lexus at a lower price than the NX (a compact SUV)
I agree, I think adding the Crown logo would make the car very special.
I hope you will shed some light on engine troubles in Tundra and LX 600.
which troubles?
Toyota claims that machining debris was left in the engines, and that is why the engines are failing. If that were true, then why is one certain rod spinning bearings? I think it’s an engineering mistake on the lower end of the block.
@@Combat556 Looks like there is more to the story than just machining debris.
@@Pamlicojdjdj1487 And yet David being a fan of Toyota is deliberately not shedding light on this🤣.
@@Karmazov i agree. Darn shame for those that bought these expensive trucks. My 2016 Tundra had the dreaded oil leak from the cam towers; another expensive and major repair.
Sold! Really hope the Crown emblem comes back. Also, Loving the plant tours.
Thank you so much for this great content…🙏🏼😊
You are so welcome!
Other than the front grill this car is gorgeous, I dislike the grill looking like it was a victim of overspray.
Lmao
That’s a good way to put it!
Great commentary on this video David. I like that you share your thoughts on the wagon vs. Suv vs. Crossover terminology. I agree nothing wrong with wagon. Also, your thoughts on the heritage of the Crown nameplate. I feel similar about the BMW and Subaru collabs and the supra nameplate. Also, very graceful and classy way of communicating the failure in the gap test
When it will be available?
I love it!
Sorry to say, I want with an up scale Outback. I went with a short term lease, so I can get Signia this time next year. I checked out the Crown, it was so much better than the reviews. I can’t wait. Thanks for your review of the next great vehicle.
I agree, Toyota should change the name to Estate.
Looks stylish and sporty like Mazda without the direct injection maintenance headache ...
I doubt that it drives like a Mazda which has stiffer suspensions in order to offer better driving dynamics and handling. Signia will have a softer ride.
Good video, David. And thank you. I agree, if "Crown" (also called "Corona" and "Cressida" here in the past) is truly the most upscale Toyota product you can buy without going to Lexus, then it needs that Crown emblem, not the linked hoops badge. I wish they'd bring that Crown sedan here, but as the next Lexus ES 350! 🐰
I personally love the wood accented interiors and think the absence of wood makes the cars look cheaper
Best looking is right! Until crown sport comes 🤞🤞🤞
Wagons rule!!!!!!
I love the Crown Sport!
@@AutomotivePress Crown sport will not likely to come because it will compete with the NX and take over some of the NX's sales
You said it uses a new gen hybrid system (4:39), but others have said it's the same 4th-gen system Toyota has been using for quite awhile. No? Yes?
This is also sort of a Camry Wagon return since same platform.
Good point. Maybe a higher center of gravity and more noise insulation.
@@Pamlicojdjdj1487 I know, I’ve driven one. It’s a slightly raised sedan. The center of gravity is higher than my 2020 Avalon and you feel it around curves. It sits slightly higher than the old/new Camry too. As a flagship model for Toyota (in the U.S.), it has better noise dampening. So these are some of the issues I am considering in whether to go with 2025/6 Camry or Crown.
Based on the Camry platform? So this is similar to the Venza?
Longer and lower clearance.
David,
How does the response feel compared to the 2019-2022 Avalons? Better road feel and inputs?
Please add cargo specs, powertrain efficiency & performance specs in future review.
is this considered as an SUV for insurance purposes?
( also , what’s the MPG?)
In my opinion... Since Crown has been absent in the US for decades, average Americans may not be familiar with the name and emblem anymore. So, Toyota's decision just go with the Toyota emblem makes sense.
Could thiss be the Venza replacement?
Yes, this is the replacement. They already said that when it was first announced
Hopefully they put the prime powertrain in the Insignia later on
Thank you. What are the exterior dimensions (length, width, ground clearance)?
I thought Camry was made in Kentucky, USA? Thanks for video!
They are all made in Kentucky, not sure why he said that
CROWN is made in Japan, Camry in US
@@LSDOGWALKER At one point in video David states that Camry is made in Japan. I’m just curious which model he may have mixed up with Camry. Always love David’s content!
@@NateTrump2010 ok I didn't catch that, I assume it's a oopsie lol
@@NateTrump2010 At the Tsutsumi Plant in Japan, they produce multiple models including the Crown Signia and the Camry (for domestic/Asian market). The Camry sold in the US/Canada are produced in Kentucky. So it's not an error, I just meant that the plant also produces Camry (but not the ones exported to North America).
Awesome video, beautiful vehicle, loved the history bit, like to learn something new always! My parents owned a Chevy wagon, fun memories. I would definitely upgrade to this, wish they had more than two options thought. 🤔💙
Hi David, good day! As an expert on Toyota, do you have any idea why Crown Signia Limited has no HUD and manual tilt/telescopic steering wheel when high tier Crown models in Japan have these feature. Avalon had these features outside of Japan and the replacement “tier” doesn’t is baffling to me.
like it..... for us who dont want a 3 row grand highlander or highlander
Honestly why wouldn’t you want a 3rd row? You can just fold the 3rd row down.
@@ozyvillanueva9277 no need for one and I like the extra under cargo floor stowage locker where the 3rd row seat was
Did you notice torque steer in acceleration?
Thank you
Whaaaaa!!😭 I want that cool metallic yellow color but I don’t think it’s available in the USA 🙁
Hey David, What’s up with the extended QC hold on Land Cruisers and GX550? What’s the issue? No one wants to address the subject. Is it the sunroof drain? If it’s only the sunroof why is Toyota/Lexus not being transparent?
Let me look into this a bit more...
@@AutomotivePress Thank you. Brian
Nice vehicle ... but the design is too sporty.. And the roofline is way too low.. If Toyota would have taken a page from the Landcruiser and made the Signia with about a 3 to 4 inch higher roofline and more a boxy design - this would have been a very very nice vehicle.. Especially this higher roofline design would be better for the American market where Americans are taller and like (and need) more cabin room..
Awesome car 🚗 I like the fact that it has a natural aspirated engine 👍 Go Toyota 🎉moving beyond!!.
Direct injection Toyota??? 😢
A much improved version of the Matrix?
I would love to have a crown. Actually I would love to have a LM van.
Could you tell the chief engineer that crown sport is also important here? We also want the corolla wagon that the UK gets & we don't. We're a larger market, there's no reason not to give us the corolla wagon.
Corolla wagon or Bust!!!!!!!!
David why doesn’t Toyota have lumber adjustment for the front passenger on their vehicles? And not just this one. Why is there a tunnel hump on the rear passenger floor? There’s no driveshaft.
I wish it had a HUD and power tilt and telescoping wheel, I'd trade my Venza in for one. For that extra price though, I'll stay with what I have :)
We have both, I prefer the limited venza than the crown crossover cause of the ground clearance and it's more comfortable, also the venza has a spare tire, the signia will not but we have it in the crown crossover
Which car is built better? Crown Signia or Mazda CX-70?
I'm going to go with an inline six and RWD, which is the CX-70. Ironically the CX-70 is more in line what the traditional Crowns should be, a rear wheel drive sedan with an inline six engine, although in the past base configurations can have four cylinders.
@@ChrisRobato yeah, the Mazda has a more lux foundation and seemingly tighter, more consistent panel gaps... If only Mazda had a smaller version of the CX-70... Crown Signia has a smaller footprint, and its FWD foundation gives it plenty of space...
IF only Mazda would make the next CX-5 a RWD hybrid... or better yet, make a RWD Mazda 3 or 6... you know, just totally be the Japanese BMW, lol
@@brandononbrand That would be the CX-60.
@@ChrisRobato right. But that's not in America... And isn't it bigger on the outside than the CX-5?
I heard CX-50 is the main reason we don't get the CX-60, and CX-50 is ~6 inches longer than CX-5
@@brandononbrand Yeah. Other countries don't get the CX-50, they get the CX-60 instead. But the CX-50 reminds me of Mazda's take on the outdoorsy Forrester while the CX-60 feels more like a Lexus NX competitor in style. The US doesn't get the CX-80 either. Keep in mind the CX-60 is RWD and uses the new inline six. It would need to be longer in order to maintain the same interior space.
How about a video on the Tundra recall for engine problems? Toyota/Lexus owners are more interested in engineering and build excellence than frills. Long life with minimal repairs is what we want. Listen up Toyota!
Go to his live section on this channel where he discusses the engine issues with his most recent video with Kirk K.
Please tell me that someone has driven it at night. I may buy one of these because my wife has a bad knee and recently had surgery. The car has more room in the front seat than most pickups. Definitely more legroom and it’s wider too. But the headlights look experimental. I will get to test drive it in a couple weeks and it fits us perfectly. Why move the headlights to the bumper. This is a major difference from any car I have ever driven. Advantage could be that a won’t blind the car ahead of me. I will test drive it after dark
We wanted the crown sport instead but it’s nice
David: Will Toyota market all their future hybrid vehicles that don’t go off-road with CVT’s? Will the MR2 suffer the same fate? 😕 10:36
3.8 sounds like a lot for luxury toyota
I just want to look at the Century. That is the definition of Luxury. Was able to sit in the 90s Century model and boi...The Japanese know what they are doing.
Crown emblem is a must. Exterior design and wagon-like shape is amazing but I think this car ultimately falls a bit flat imo. Unfortunate because I was very excited for it.
Since you care so much about the brand . While you were there in Japan , did you asked the engineers about the V6 recall BS and if is going to affect the GX550 ?
Go to his most recent live video on this channel where he discusses engine issues.
Tell them that literally millions of American women would want a suv with a crown on it!!! We are all queens and princesses here. You will sell so many more with crown logo. We argue among friends who is really the queen COME ON!!!!!!!😂
I like the wagon and sedan version. The sport and crown cross or normal crown here in the us are not great looking to me
The gaps are really bad. Just admit it.
This is like they brought back the Toyota Camry wagon. I think it looks more like the Toyota Camry than the Crown
I still a few of those once in a while, a head turner!
They were pragmatic in losing the crown. It is definitely misunderstood in North America
Great car, just ge aware that it has no spare tire and no room beneath the cargo area floor to hold a spare you might buy, not even a donut.
Toyota Sequoia TRD Pro (2nd generation), simply the best
"Wagon" is only a bad word to an older generation. Does "wagon" really still have that baggage with younger generations?
I think wagons could do well in America, if car makers gave them a real chance... the few wagons we've gotten in recent decades have been severely compromised. We never got wagons with all the features you get in crossovers, etc
The Crown Sport would sell like crazy in the US. I hope they bring it here. Fingers crossed!!!
Engineer's Review? Really? Tell us about the brakes, the headlights (why is there only one lamp per side compared to 4 LEDs per side for the Crown Sedan). Why is it $14,000 more than the new Camry. Does the engine start/stop while driving? How is the rear visibility? Does it have a normal spare tire? Honestly, if this guy was employed by me I would tell him to add another 5 minutes addressing specific questions any buyer would have. I respect this guy from past reviews, but this review is woefully superficial and incomplete.
Disappointed in Toyota. Tundra issues and other model issues. They need to dump the failure engine and bring back the 5.7 and dump the new platform. Turning radius terrible compared to my 07 Crewmax. David, I think Toyota not the same as when you worked for them. Wanted to add, when the Crown came out last year my first impression when I saw at the dealer was the old Acura ZDX. The new grill however does not give the feeling of luxury which youd expect from the Crown lineage. Disappointed.
One thing toyota is known for is listening to their customer base and adjusting. If enough people bring this up i have no doubt they will address the issue.
@@markoreaper5388 A ton of us asked for a diesel option in the Tundra. They blew us off. Instead they gave us a pos turbo six.
Not gonna happen. The auto industry is global and fuel economy and emissions standards have been set. Toyota has retooled for the tundra and an 8 cylinder isn’t part of it.
I’m okay with the new design. Looks more modern and stylish than old school luxury. But will have to see it in person. Go with Lexus for the classic luxury look.
Not enough power!
Toyota needs to step up there interior looks
It is not a SUV but a raised station wagon like the Outback.
Best looking Toyota is the Crown Sport
It doesn't feel like a Crown because its an oversized high riding Camry.
Kiyomi
The current, or future,4Runner and Land Cruiser are better looking
😅 am sorry but this is a compact SUV not a midsize SUV and the price does mot reflect that . Overpriced, yes. It should be around $36-40K.
It looks like Corolla cross
No one needs a plug in
Many advertisement every where but actually no place to buy it yet. Even all Toyota dealers doesn't know when it comes to US. such baloney so far...
I reviewed this car at a focus group in OC, Calif. I was selected bc we had purchased a Venza.
It is bigger than a Venza but not worth the extra $10k.
For the extra $10k get the NX350H.
Noone in the USA knows or appreciates Crown but to be truthful this is a goofy looking car and I do not like the front grill.
Over priced keep it toyota
CVT, no thanks!
do not mistaken the CVT (terrible) with the eCVT (god-tier) that Toyota produces. The eCVT is not even a CVT in any way either, it's just a poor choice of names but please look into eCVTs, I'm sure David might even have a video about that!
Crown nameplate is meaningless IMO. This is an elevated Toyota period, just like the 21-24 Venza tried to be. So Toyota discontinues the Avalon and renames it Crown thinking Americans will spend more money and buy into the Crown heritage. Crown is meaningless to me. This isn’t close to a Japanese Crown and btw, Toyota (not Crown) is pricing it like something special. It’s not, it’s just an overpriced Toyota and this comes from someone who fell for the hype and purchased a 21 Venza Limited which at $44,000, is 6-8 thousand less expensive than this thing. No HUD, no power assist for the steering wheel, no opening sunroof, no 4-way lumbar support for the driver, no Turbo max engine option at over $51,000? I’m glad Toyota Included leather instead of the imitation crap and improved the interior and infotainment over the Venza. Toyota quality, my rear hatch struts just went at 31,000 miles and 3 years. It’s a known problem for Toyota. $1000.00 to replace both struts. Hopefully the “Crown” is using better parts! Thankfully I have an extended warranty.
Oh Japanese built hatch. I prefer Japanese built Toyotas. They will ruin it when they start building in the USA with poor quality.
NO THANK YOU! Not for over $50K. It's too big! It won't fit in my standard two-car garage. I would have to park it outside, a $50K vehicle that I can't park in my garage? NO!!! I don't need something so large, but I do like the luxury, so I will buy the VENZA instead!
Loving the sporty look. But, why not classified as a crossover? I agree with you on the nameplate/badging. Esp if it's going to be priced close to the Grand Highlander or Lexus.