Oh my goodness Vince you should not put the shiny reflective bit on there with a backlight! Consider: on a stock DMG or MGB, the screen is illuminated via the reflector - light from the ambient environment goes through the screen and gets reflected back out, essentially “backlighting” (in the loosest term) your screen. If you get a backlight instead, you don’t need to reflect light - you’ve already got light coming out on demand! The reflector just mucks up your picture and keeps the backlight from doing its job properly.
It's interesting the contrast in approaches between My Mate Vince and The Retro Future. Vince is rather measured using his multimeter frequently, whilst Elliot has a more instinctive manner. I think both could learn from each other as both have their pros and cons. Keep up the good work, both of you!
"Elliot has a more instinctive manner" - by that do you mean he just guesses? My Mate Vince puts in a bit of effort and reasoning to source the fault, he might not always be right and may not fix it - that's what's makes it entertaining. Elliot usually gives up stating that's it's "not worth repairing", rather than exploring the actual fault, which for me makes for a boring anti-climax...
@@Fifury161 "Guesses" is too harshly put as that suggests he has no idea what's he's doing (which clearly is not the case because he regularly gets results); he takes an intelligent estimate of the most likely causes, predominantly from past experience. To elaborate, let's compare Elliot to a race driver. F1 drivers don't "guess" where the corners are; they practice them thousands of times. In a grand prix situation, should the weather change or the need to pass traffic or they have a car defect, the have to judge a compromised racing line to tackle the here and now. Sure, it doesn't pay off every time but they judge a probability of risk and choose when to back off when the situation resists. If they actually just carelessly guessed, there would be regular deaths and serious injuries due to the pure erratic randomness. That's the difference between being instinctive (scenario based prediction, like poker) and guessing (pure luck, like a lottery). Precision is a slower process, but even with absolute fine details doesn't guarantee success, as it still gives a window for uncontrollable factors. Elliot is resourceful and practical - he'd rather have completed products to show, with his regular condensed "highlights" videos to keep audience attention and stockpile parts for future videos as his content tends to revolve around Gameboys. Vince on the other hand isn't such a specialist as he works on a wide scale of projects so specific spares are just clutter, so he's more determined to fight for a completed job even if it doesn't pay off, plus he chooses to be more "full footage" to be open on how long things take (which the latter occasionally happens with Elliot's live streams on his second channel, so he doesn't "lie" about timescale either). Which is better? Whether you watch for interest or entertainment is your choice; everybody is different and get different things out of life. I like both approaches and ultimately the opposing styles gives us options and/or variety.
@@ToxoRetro I understand your analogy - however it assumes you are familiar with the car and the track, I get the impression that Elliot would struggle trouble shooting something he hasn't worked on before and that where the guess work comes in, granted it might be an "educated" guess, but it's still a guess. Even a novice can swap out parts to get something working again...
@@Fifury161 Elliot has lots of Gameboy experience from various models from pre RUclips and unless anyone has majorly fiddled with it or there is a subtle fault such as the one in this video (which is probably why he collaborated with a trusted RUclipsr), it's unlikely he'll need to do anything radically off-piste. Then his philosophy is to encourage his viewers to give it a go, so that's kind of the entire point. Let's agree to disagree. If you don't agree, don't watch the videos - that's your opinion and your free choice.
Totally agree that originality of these historical artefacts are worth preserving, saddens me to see people these days are so hyped up in butchering these. Makes no sense when there are a million other ways to play these games really well.
Chuckling at the "You're all waiting to hear the crack and the screen to go" because I totally was - not out of malice but because that's just my luck, usually. LOL
When you went and got a picture of ur old car that made me smile haha. I really like it when people are enthusiastic about fixing things. Its makes me sick to see someone throw something away that could have been fixed, or at the very least, parts harvested.
Nice MGB's you had there. Kudos on sorting it yourself. Cars like that were so easy to work on. Spares were plentiful too. Welding is something I struggled with for years so fair play on teaching yourself. I restored a 1974 Triumph GT6, learnt loads but gave the confidence to at least have a go at fixing pretty much anything. Won some, lost some but good fun either way.
I only ever did one nut and bolt restoration... Triumph Dolomite 1850HL in wine and full webasto with vinyl roof and Sprint wheels. Every part was taken to pieces, lovingly restored where possible with new body panels up front, new floor pans and rebuilt the chassis rails, polybushes from the US as not available over here, hand rebuilt the engine and overdrive with these hands, new twin carbs, all new lights and had the seats recovered and American paint which gave it a super deep lustre. Woodwork sanded and yacht varnish'd to a glass like shine, there wasn't a blemish on the car. My kid brother wrote it off and never had the heart to do a resto again :(
Seeing that removal of the back polarizer almost made me cry. I broke 2 screens and barely managed the third when modding my gameboy pocket because the back polarizers were absolutely scorched and each one took me at least a half an hour. That was beautiful thank you Vince
Great video Vince, my knowledge of repairing Game Boys is spraying air duster into the cartridge contact and cleaning with alcohol cleaner. They are nice little systems but the screens are such a pain on them when they start getting screen burn or the lcd display starts to play up.
I agree with you that keeping it original is the right move. I hate seeing people hack old consoles apart to try to modernise them. If you want something practical (clear screen, rechargable battery, etc) then there are far better options.
I really appreciate these "Trying to Fix" videos. I like how authentic they are and not some slick professional doing them. I have damage to the screen on my 3ds from spilling IPA on the screen when I was trying to remove greasy fingerprints. I may try to fix it.
Haha, no unfortunately not. I was trying to be the dad that shows the kids that there is no need to be scared of the swans. This swan however was a little bit braver and more brazen than I thought he/she would be!!!!
You know what Vince? I was totally with you on the backlight thing up until a couple of days ago. I bought myself a game boy off ebay - I wanted the original experience that I had in my youth. But the future has spoiled me and now I want to backlight mod it - can't see a bloody thing on that screen!
"The only people who want to play this are people who want to revisit there youth or collectors". I find that adding functionality to old consoles like RGB outputs to the NES doesn't degrade from the console only makes it more playable for those in 2020 who are used to crisper pixels. The same goes for a backlight, it might be more 'unauthentic' but that doesn't matter if you can more easily play in the dark you. It makes it more pleasant, for me at least, to enjoy games on a console well older than myself. But it's all personal preference in the end so it's ok to mod your system to the way you like it. That's the whole point of modding in the first place.
It's a preservation thing. Anyone dealing in antiques will tell you modifications make the value plummet, and undoing the damage is often difficult or impossible. The NES might be a bit rough around the edges, but a composite signal isn't as bad a thing as the visibility is for these old game boys, if you ask me. Believe me, I would love to get a better picture from my NES, but it's not worth it.
I guess it's a personal choice, value isn't that be a factor as these devices aren't exactly "rare". One thing about modding older consoles is that a lot of them relied on the CRTs lack of picture quality (relative to todays 4K & 8K displays). The analogue blur was a lot more forgiving - also the timings allowed for simpler light guns hardware to work.. The Dreamcast is the only console of that generation that actually played an enhanced game when connected to a screen with a better resolution than a TV!
I'm OK with soft-modding, because it is more easily reverted back to how it originally was, but once a console has been hard-modded, it's never going to be the same. I get really sad to see those portable versions of consoles that are actually made out of a real one, like all those portable Wiis and GameCubes. And I absolutely hate seeing someone mod anything rare. I despise people that mod things like the Panasonic Q or retail kiosks.
@@clothinghanger6978 I know exactly what you mean with Panasonic Q's and store kiosks but everybody and there grandma has a Wii. You can get a complete system at car boots for less then £20 so any "historical preservation" for that kind of system at the tiny community of about 100 people who research and develop those mods, I think it's ok because you don't need too look very far to find a unmodded system. As for the Q it is surprisingly common compared to most "rare" systems but it was poorly made with unique parts so restoration requires salvaging or leave to functionless which is of course less impactful for "historical preservation"
@@partypiggaming9344 I love the Wii, and to see one striped of its real time clock, disc drive, GC ports, SD slot, and everything else other than CPU and GPU and ram is sad. There's a ton of people in the world but it would be sad to see one missing more than half their body.
That MGBGTs looks crisp Vince.real decent car.love the look of that.always feel free to deviate from the topic of the show,especially when it’s to do with cars.
A vid fixing a Gameboy...oh look at my old car. I love it 😊😊 all your vids are awesome. Have you thought about doing some stuff on cars, basic beginners stuff? Keep up the great work 👍👍
15:10 No not the sun. I've got and fixed many Gameboy screens especially the pocket ones. I had a red one which was perfect, I put it in its box perfect. Looked at it a year or two later and it had the screen burn (not as bad as your one) and that was from inside its box.
MGB-001 is the only Game Boy Pocket model number, but it initially had no power LED. in 1997, a power LED was added but the model number remained the same. MGB-101 is the Game Boy Light, which was only sold new in Japan and only 12,000 were made. That has a factory backlight, which is an electroluminescent backlight as used in some Casio watches and monochrome Windows CE Pocket PCs.
Interesting, I never knew that about the EL panel...that is the same as the Jacob Jensen alarm clock that I fixed in a previous video. Thanks for sharing :-)
There's a MUCH MUCH easier way of splitting screens. Use a piece of dental floss. Also to solve the air bubble situation, try a tiny bit of detergent in water as it will eventually evaporate and make the film adhere to the glass
The backlight wasn't doing anything anyway lol. I think the way you have the layers oriented was keeping it from actually making a difference. The main reason people backlight them is to be able to play on original hardware without having to sit in front a lamp.
Love ur vids vince, I learnt a lot from this video and I had two original Dmg’s I modded one with a back light looks awesome btw and I got another one in bad condition and just restored it to its original as much as possible condition with no back light, just because I wanted one as u said to reminiscence the good old days, I then when on a GB bender and got all of them from pocket to colour to advance etc and replaced them all into transparent cases with red buttons! Just for future reference there are some good Gb mods out there if u fancied tinkering but I would highly suggest just keeping an original dmg as close as possible as it just can’t be beaten. The rechargeable mod is awesome did it to my gb colour! 👍🏻
Ooo a Valjoux 92 if I am not mistaken... You will have to learn some things about them mechanical chrono's to get the best out of them and you can inadvertently damage them by being heavy on the wind as they are incredibly complex mechanical movements inside there and you will need to have serviced regularly by someone who understands them as not all modern watchsmiths have had the opportunity of working with a Valjoux or Poljot mechanical chronograph and oiling is very critical on these, when Anchor oil will not do and prob bugger up the doings. My grail of grails is a Sekonda branded, black dial and mint lume two register Poljot Sturmanskie mechanical chronograph which under the cover is a Valjoux 7177 from when Poljot bought the lot from Valjoux when Valjoux discontinued the series which the 92 was the granddaddy of. Mark Lovick's Watch Repair Channel recently covered a Poljot 3133 you will find interesting and an idea of just how complicated these beauties are and I rate a mechanical chronograph as the best you can buy.
Cheers Ian, I love this watch, quite unusual looking as well with the mix of round dial and squarish case. Mark's channel is really good, some great content on there :-)
Cool thing about these replacement polarizers is that they have a green tint to them and it ressemble the original DMG's shade haha, perfect match for this color scheme shell compared to the original gray looking screen.
You don't need the foil if you use the backlight. The foil is used to reflect light coming through the screen and back again. If you have a backlight it'll generate its own light, so it doesn't need to reflect light to make the screen visible
Hey Vince. Great video as always. I have a PSP 1000 series faulty if you're interested in it. I've had it for a couple of years and will never really find the time to look at it. It's a no power so you'll love it 😁 if you want me to send it over to you let me know. Obviously don't want anything for it, but could make a fun video for you 😁
Another great video, Vince. I have a bit of an odd question for you or any of your viewers. A while ago there was a Trying to Fix video and one of the pieces of music playing has a woman singing. Most videos with music don't have vocals which made it stand out. I can't remember what video it was. If anyone remembers, please let me know.
Sorry Ian, I know I have had a few videos with vocals on them in the last few months so I don't know from memory which one it was. If you find the video then I might be able to find out which song it is :-)
I'll give this idea for anyone who has different sized led for screens, phones, GBA, laptop or monritor or even TV screen leds. buy some printable clear sheets to print photos on, You can also buy photo frames to make DIY frames. Measure the frame to the led screen, print your photos on the sheets, you can buy some step down modules to generate the voltage for the led screens and bobs your uncle, illuminated photos that are a bit like the effect from stained glass. Kind of like a light also. True recycling.
The MGB is my all time favorite car, I had a chance to buy one with a webasto roof, wish I did get it now - I didnt get it because it had some major rust around the webasto. Your 2 looked real nice. Now lets watch the rest of the video haha
Removing the reflector and polarizer is probably my second least favorite thing to do to any of the Nintendo handheld system, my least favorite would be getting all the cables for the top screen of the DS line through the hinge.
Also, I don't believe the reflector is necessary with the back light since it's purpose is to reflect external light back through the screen to illuminate the image on the screen. Removing it might yield better results albeit a bit washed out but you could add a bivert mod which would invert the pixels and improve contrast.
Good to keep it original awesome watch kind a wish I didn’t have my Apple Watch sometimes so I can wear my old wind up self winding watch too The music adds suspense 👍 good video
Even if you install a backlight, all the original hardware is there unchanged, only adding an extra layer to the screen. I'm sure there are people who prefer the original, unchanged experience, but I believe most of us don't want to go back to the days where we needed very specific lighting conditions in order to play games. That's not what we loved about the Game Boy, so it's not something most people would miss. Improving on that one aspect doesn't take away anything from anything else. All the things we love about it are still present and one of the biggest annoyances is gone. Plus, when the backlight is turned off the screen looks the same as before. It's just a step to getting the best experience possible on original hardware, which judging by how popular RGB and HDMI mods and Sony PVM/BVM/Trinitron TVs are, is something people want. Just because someone wants to play on original hardware doesn't mean they don't want the best experience possible.
I've personally been spoiled by backlit screens, and I don't think I could go back now. I believe a lot of people think the same as me. Having a backlit screen mod goes a long way to making an old handheld more usable again. I would keep the backlit screen, and also install a bivert mod and flip the polarizing filter, as the contrast is a bit bad with the backlight mod and that helps make it better.
My dad had a MGB GT when he was younger he then got married had kids he had to sell it for a bigger car. He sold it to his friend 2 weeks after that his friend crashed the car and it was a write off. Everytime my dad sees one he tell me the same story he was gutted
I love how the MGB looks.. One of my dream cars is a British racing green MGB roadster with chrome bumpers and wire wheels but sadly, we don't have a lot of those in the Philippines....
Really good video vince, why not try to do another game gear but do the diy mini 2 led convention. You take 2 leds and slide them into the sides of the high voltage tube and add a resistor and your done. Its awesome as well its a GG and its a really good mod that keeps the GG more original buy keeping the tube
Where did you buy the polarizer? I have a hard time finding the right one at the right price. I don’t know if it needs to be a linear or circular polarizer as well... thank you and great video!
35:00 The problem with more modern silver foil is they are too shiny. I tried that method trying to fix a Super Vision screen which had exactly the same issue. I was not happy with the results.
Polarisers only work when they are at ninety degrees to each other Vince, It part of how liquid crystals twist and align when voltage is applied to them
vince mate remove the foil between the light and the polarizer the foil is for reflective lighting like in the sun or for preventing light reflections inside the case it will be much brighter and more useable without the majority of the light being wasted plus you could add a variable resistor for the brightness to save on battery in dark conditions
I think if you could backlight it, but put an on/off switch somewhere like the battery compartment (so hidden but keeping exterior original) then it would allow best of both worlds, because you wouldn't want the backlight draining the batteries during the day. try Elliot see if there is a way to cut out the bubbles or does it ruin the polarizer? so that you could in future cut the polarizer to get rid of bubble like they do with tinted window fitting. I know you couldn't do anything about the dust trapped between the polarizer and the screen, but reduce the amount of bubble between the screen and the polarizer.
@@Mymatevince I've personally used sendico but I warn you it's shipping that is awful. I bought 90 USD worth of stuff (famicom, super famicom, Sega Saturn, wonderswan color, and a super famicom controller) the shipping for that package was about 95usd
man! i gotta say when you started peeling the layers from the LCD i thought that thing was trashed. i see now how they had the LCD set up. very cool! i wonder, did someone leave that gameboy inside a car with the sun shining on it? what caused the screen to look burned??
its called vineger syndrome, it happens from a chemical reaction in the lcd polarizer film after 20 to 30 years, if will happen or when will happens depends on quality of polarizer film and environment. The name is because screen smell like vineger after reaction starts
I personally would like a backlight gameboy to play games on it thats why i play games o my gba sp rather than on the gameboy color cause i preffer gameboy color but without a backlight nowadays is unplayable
tbh with gameboys i've always found it to be almost pointless to do diagnostics, if after washing, corrosion removal and alcohol rinsing everything, it still has issues. those issues are likely not going to be an easy fix (i.e you'd need to salvage parts from another gameboy).
I agree with not including a backlight. For people who want the better playing experience from these they would get a backlit gameboy colour. And if they want a more original gameboy with a backlight, there is already something for that - a Gameboy Light! So for me at least a backlit gameboy pocket doesn't make a huge amount of sense.
Vince & Elliot are the true Kings of RUclips, they’ve rekindled my love for fixing game consoles & accessories
Haha thanks :)
Nice one that’s really amazing
Thanks Q n K :-)
More like Gods of the Universe
Great Channel, Thank You The Retro Future 😘
TysyTube Restoration hey!
Thanks TysyTube :-)
TysyTube fancy seeing you here what's up mate?? I didn't know you watched Vince's videos.
Oh my goodness Vince you should not put the shiny reflective bit on there with a backlight! Consider: on a stock DMG or MGB, the screen is illuminated via the reflector - light from the ambient environment goes through the screen and gets reflected back out, essentially “backlighting” (in the loosest term) your screen. If you get a backlight instead, you don’t need to reflect light - you’ve already got light coming out on demand! The reflector just mucks up your picture and keeps the backlight from doing its job properly.
Cheers Jonathan, that makes complete sense now. Thank you :-)
It's interesting the contrast in approaches between My Mate Vince and The Retro Future. Vince is rather measured using his multimeter frequently, whilst Elliot has a more instinctive manner. I think both could learn from each other as both have their pros and cons. Keep up the good work, both of you!
"Elliot has a more instinctive manner" - by that do you mean he just guesses? My Mate Vince puts in a bit of effort and reasoning to source the fault, he might not always be right and may not fix it - that's what's makes it entertaining. Elliot usually gives up stating that's it's "not worth repairing", rather than exploring the actual fault, which for me makes for a boring anti-climax...
@@Fifury161 "Guesses" is too harshly put as that suggests he has no idea what's he's doing (which clearly is not the case because he regularly gets results); he takes an intelligent estimate of the most likely causes, predominantly from past experience. To elaborate, let's compare Elliot to a race driver. F1 drivers don't "guess" where the corners are; they practice them thousands of times. In a grand prix situation, should the weather change or the need to pass traffic or they have a car defect, the have to judge a compromised racing line to tackle the here and now. Sure, it doesn't pay off every time but they judge a probability of risk and choose when to back off when the situation resists. If they actually just carelessly guessed, there would be regular deaths and serious injuries due to the pure erratic randomness. That's the difference between being instinctive (scenario based prediction, like poker) and guessing (pure luck, like a lottery). Precision is a slower process, but even with absolute fine details doesn't guarantee success, as it still gives a window for uncontrollable factors.
Elliot is resourceful and practical - he'd rather have completed products to show, with his regular condensed "highlights" videos to keep audience attention and stockpile parts for future videos as his content tends to revolve around Gameboys. Vince on the other hand isn't such a specialist as he works on a wide scale of projects so specific spares are just clutter, so he's more determined to fight for a completed job even if it doesn't pay off, plus he chooses to be more "full footage" to be open on how long things take (which the latter occasionally happens with Elliot's live streams on his second channel, so he doesn't "lie" about timescale either).
Which is better? Whether you watch for interest or entertainment is your choice; everybody is different and get different things out of life. I like both approaches and ultimately the opposing styles gives us options and/or variety.
@@ToxoRetro I understand your analogy - however it assumes you are familiar with the car and the track, I get the impression that Elliot would struggle trouble shooting something he hasn't worked on before and that where the guess work comes in, granted it might be an "educated" guess, but it's still a guess. Even a novice can swap out parts to get something working again...
@@Fifury161 Elliot has lots of Gameboy experience from various models from pre RUclips and unless anyone has majorly fiddled with it or there is a subtle fault such as the one in this video (which is probably why he collaborated with a trusted RUclipsr), it's unlikely he'll need to do anything radically off-piste. Then his philosophy is to encourage his viewers to give it a go, so that's kind of the entire point.
Let's agree to disagree. If you don't agree, don't watch the videos - that's your opinion and your free choice.
Totally agree that originality of these historical artefacts are worth preserving, saddens me to see people these days are so hyped up in butchering these. Makes no sense when there are a million other ways to play these games really well.
Emulators suck, original hardware modified to fuck for your viewing pleasure is the way
@@3a.m.284 Emulators are literally better than the actual consoles.
@@acumenium8157 But some people (myself included) just prefer real hardware.
Chuckling at the "You're all waiting to hear the crack and the screen to go" because I totally was - not out of malice but because that's just my luck, usually. LOL
Love how clean this ended 😄 Also loved the call with The Retro Future 😃 As always, your hard work is equal to learning about something
You could have said that 3 years ago 😂
Vince: I bought this car from eBay...
Wife: VINCE!
We’re all expecting a car fix video now....
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He made 1 on his 2nd channel.
A car nerd and a computer nerd, who enjoys fixing broken things? We are kindred spirits man :)
Nice "crossover" of you two. And a very nice looking and working Game Boy pocket.
Excellent video once again. Your patients and mental dexterity is a joy to watch. Once again I can say, I like it.
When you went and got a picture of ur old car that made me smile haha. I really like it when people are enthusiastic about fixing things. Its makes me sick to see someone throw something away that could have been fixed, or at the very least, parts harvested.
Nice MGB's you had there. Kudos on sorting it yourself. Cars like that were so easy to work on. Spares were plentiful too. Welding is something I struggled with for years so fair play on teaching yourself. I restored a 1974 Triumph GT6, learnt loads but gave the confidence to at least have a go at fixing pretty much anything. Won some, lost some but good fun either way.
I only ever did one nut and bolt restoration... Triumph Dolomite 1850HL in wine and full webasto with vinyl roof and Sprint wheels. Every part was taken to pieces, lovingly restored where possible with new body panels up front, new floor pans and rebuilt the chassis rails, polybushes from the US as not available over here, hand rebuilt the engine and overdrive with these hands, new twin carbs, all new lights and had the seats recovered and American paint which gave it a super deep lustre. Woodwork sanded and yacht varnish'd to a glass like shine, there wasn't a blemish on the car. My kid brother wrote it off and never had the heart to do a resto again :(
Sounds lovely, I like the look of the front of the Dolomite, especially the Sprint. I hope you still have some pics of it :-)
Seeing that removal of the back polarizer almost made me cry. I broke 2 screens and barely managed the third when modding my gameboy pocket because the back polarizers were absolutely scorched and each one took me at least a half an hour. That was beautiful thank you Vince
Great video Vince, my knowledge of repairing Game Boys is spraying air duster into the cartridge contact and cleaning with alcohol cleaner. They are nice little systems but the screens are such a pain on them when they start getting screen burn or the lcd display starts to play up.
Cheers Danny :-)
I agree with you that keeping it original is the right move. I hate seeing people hack old consoles apart to try to modernise them. If you want something practical (clear screen, rechargable battery, etc) then there are far better options.
I really appreciate these "Trying to Fix" videos. I like how authentic they are and not some slick professional doing them. I have damage to the screen on my 3ds from spilling IPA on the screen when I was trying to remove greasy fingerprints. I may try to fix it.
Is there a separate video about the swan attack? I would really like to know the whole story!
Haha, no unfortunately not. I was trying to be the dad that shows the kids that there is no need to be scared of the swans. This swan however was a little bit braver and more brazen than I thought he/she would be!!!!
@@Mymatevince I had the same thing happen with a large goose.
You know what Vince? I was totally with you on the backlight thing up until a couple of days ago. I bought myself a game boy off ebay - I wanted the original experience that I had in my youth. But the future has spoiled me and now I want to backlight mod it - can't see a bloody thing on that screen!
This is more interesting than the other trying to fix videos
Dude, that MG-B.. Lovely!
Was nice seeing you mess around with adding a back-light
"The only people who want to play this are people who want to revisit there youth or collectors".
I find that adding functionality to old consoles like RGB outputs to the NES doesn't degrade from the console only makes it more playable for those in 2020 who are used to crisper pixels. The same goes for a backlight, it might be more 'unauthentic' but that doesn't matter if you can more easily play in the dark you. It makes it more pleasant, for me at least, to enjoy games on a console well older than myself. But it's all personal preference in the end so it's ok to mod your system to the way you like it. That's the whole point of modding in the first place.
It's a preservation thing. Anyone dealing in antiques will tell you modifications make the value plummet, and undoing the damage is often difficult or impossible. The NES might be a bit rough around the edges, but a composite signal isn't as bad a thing as the visibility is for these old game boys, if you ask me. Believe me, I would love to get a better picture from my NES, but it's not worth it.
I guess it's a personal choice, value isn't that be a factor as these devices aren't exactly "rare". One thing about modding older consoles is that a lot of them relied on the CRTs lack of picture quality (relative to todays 4K & 8K displays). The analogue blur was a lot more forgiving - also the timings allowed for simpler light guns hardware to work.. The Dreamcast is the only console of that generation that actually played an enhanced game when connected to a screen with a better resolution than a TV!
I'm OK with soft-modding, because it is more easily reverted back to how it originally was, but once a console has been hard-modded, it's never going to be the same. I get really sad to see those portable versions of consoles that are actually made out of a real one, like all those portable Wiis and GameCubes. And I absolutely hate seeing someone mod anything rare. I despise people that mod things like the Panasonic Q or retail kiosks.
@@clothinghanger6978 I know exactly what you mean with Panasonic Q's and store kiosks but everybody and there grandma has a Wii. You can get a complete system at car boots for less then £20 so any "historical preservation" for that kind of system at the tiny community of about 100 people who research and develop those mods, I think it's ok because you don't need too look very far to find a unmodded system.
As for the Q it is surprisingly common compared to most "rare" systems but it was poorly made with unique parts so restoration requires salvaging or leave to functionless which is of course less impactful for "historical preservation"
@@partypiggaming9344 I love the Wii, and to see one striped of its real time clock, disc drive, GC ports, SD slot, and everything else other than CPU and GPU and ram is sad. There's a ton of people in the world but it would be sad to see one missing more than half their body.
That MGBGTs looks crisp Vince.real decent car.love the look of that.always feel free to deviate from the topic of the show,especially when it’s to do with cars.
When I looked at this I thought it was a retro future video but then in was like what it's my mate Vince wow
Awesome job, Vince! Although I think people would like the backlight. Still a very cool homemade upgrade.
I used to own a 1972 MGB in the U.S., my mechanic was retired RAF. My most favorite car, I rolled the odometer over twice in the 15+ years I owned it.
A vid fixing a Gameboy...oh look at my old car. I love it 😊😊 all your vids are awesome. Have you thought about doing some stuff on cars, basic beginners stuff? Keep up the great work 👍👍
eliot rambles sometimes too it is one of the things i like about his videos
imagine Vice uploads a trying to fix a car for MOT wit a MGB
The swan bit(e) was fantastic! Had a good laugh, thanks mate
15:10 No not the sun. I've got and fixed many Gameboy screens especially the pocket ones. I had a red one which was perfect, I put it in its box perfect. Looked at it a year or two later and it had the screen burn (not as bad as your one) and that was from inside its box.
Thanks for sharing the info :-)
MGB-001 is the only Game Boy Pocket model number, but it initially had no power LED. in 1997, a power LED was added but the model number remained the same. MGB-101 is the Game Boy Light, which was only sold new in Japan and only 12,000 were made. That has a factory backlight, which is an electroluminescent backlight as used in some Casio watches and monochrome Windows CE Pocket PCs.
Interesting, I never knew that about the EL panel...that is the same as the Jacob Jensen alarm clock that I fixed in a previous video. Thanks for sharing :-)
@@Mymatevince welcome, I've enjoyed the videos of yours I've watched :)
Nice cars great vid, but I would’ve definitely kept the back light.
There's a MUCH MUCH easier way of splitting screens. Use a piece of dental floss. Also to solve the air bubble situation, try a tiny bit of detergent in water as it will eventually evaporate and make the film adhere to the glass
This!
Which detergent would you suggest for this?
Elliot: I'd go with a backlight kit
Vince: simplicity eludes me
Very nice, going from a repair to a mod experiment.
Found your channel from Cod3r, staying for the awesome videos
Great video Vince. You and Elliott are amazing. Classic RUclips entertainment.
Thank you CLC :-)
@@Mymatevince Always very welcome.
I love the Electronics Repair Cinematic Universe.
Such an amazing collaboration!
Thank you Eliot and Vince loved the video
Great repair Vince!
Perfect Bank holiday video
The backlight wasn't doing anything anyway lol. I think the way you have the layers oriented was keeping it from actually making a difference. The main reason people backlight them is to be able to play on original hardware without having to sit in front a lamp.
great video 👍Was waiting for the crack of the LCD 🤣
Haha....You and me both :-)
Love ur vids vince, I learnt a lot from this video and I had two original Dmg’s I modded one with a back light looks awesome btw and I got another one in bad condition and just restored it to its original as much as possible condition with no back light, just because I wanted one as u said to reminiscence the good old days, I then when on a GB bender and got all of them from pocket to colour to advance etc and replaced them all into transparent cases with red buttons! Just for future reference there are some good Gb mods out there if u fancied tinkering but I would highly suggest just keeping an original dmg as close as possible as it just can’t be beaten. The rechargeable mod is awesome did it to my gb colour! 👍🏻
Use rubbing alcohol on a Q tip to get the glue residue off
Ooo a Valjoux 92 if I am not mistaken... You will have to learn some things about them mechanical chrono's to get the best out of them and you can inadvertently damage them by being heavy on the wind as they are incredibly complex mechanical movements inside there and you will need to have serviced regularly by someone who understands them as not all modern watchsmiths have had the opportunity of working with a Valjoux or Poljot mechanical chronograph and oiling is very critical on these, when Anchor oil will not do and prob bugger up the doings.
My grail of grails is a Sekonda branded, black dial and mint lume two register Poljot Sturmanskie mechanical chronograph which under the cover is a Valjoux 7177 from when Poljot bought the lot from Valjoux when Valjoux discontinued the series which the 92 was the granddaddy of. Mark Lovick's Watch Repair Channel recently covered a Poljot 3133 you will find interesting and an idea of just how complicated these beauties are and I rate a mechanical chronograph as the best you can buy.
Cheers Ian, I love this watch, quite unusual looking as well with the mix of round dial and squarish case. Mark's channel is really good, some great content on there :-)
@My mate vince ooooooo you had MGB's very nice iam a classic car nut I wish I could get my hands on a classic car very impressed 👍
Elliot is going to be so upset at the precedent you are setting here good sir LOL! You made it look to easy ;)
Ah! A classic Pokémon blue intro sound!
vince this vid was awesome! You literly flabbergasted me with how you introduced the backlight, also, good choice to keep it originial.:) I like!
Bubble perfect !! Nice job as always
Great vlog Vince
Cool thing about these replacement polarizers is that they have a green tint to them and it ressemble the original DMG's shade haha, perfect match for this color scheme shell compared to the original gray looking screen.
I’ve watched this video every month since it came out
Yey! That's my Saturday night sorted! PS. You get more views in a minute than i do in a month! 😁
You'll get there StezStix, I have just subscribed :-)
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You don't need the foil if you use the backlight. The foil is used to reflect light coming through the screen and back again. If you have a backlight it'll generate its own light, so it doesn't need to reflect light to make the screen visible
Thanks Thomas, that makes sense to me now. Nice one :-)
Very Nice Vince, you saved one move device from land fill, Yo Da maan !
Hey Vince. Great video as always. I have a PSP 1000 series faulty if you're interested in it. I've had it for a couple of years and will never really find the time to look at it. It's a no power so you'll love it 😁 if you want me to send it over to you let me know. Obviously don't want anything for it, but could make a fun video for you 😁
Thank you Coder :-) You should do it yourself on your channel. Mix it up a bit when you have a bit of downtime from the console fixing :-)
@@Mymatevince thanks mate i probably will eventually, keep getting a lot of blod machines sucking up a lot of time lately though lol
Another great video, Vince. I have a bit of an odd question for you or any of your viewers. A while ago there was a Trying to Fix video and one of the pieces of music playing has a woman singing. Most videos with music don't have vocals which made it stand out. I can't remember what video it was. If anyone remembers, please let me know.
Sorry Ian, I know I have had a few videos with vocals on them in the last few months so I don't know from memory which one it was. If you find the video then I might be able to find out which song it is :-)
I'll give this idea for anyone who has different sized led for screens, phones, GBA, laptop or monritor or even TV screen leds. buy some printable clear sheets to print photos on, You can also buy photo frames to make DIY frames. Measure the frame to the led screen, print your photos on the sheets, you can buy some step down modules to generate the voltage for the led screens and bobs your uncle, illuminated photos that are a bit like the effect from stained glass. Kind of like a light also.
True recycling.
The MGB is my all time favorite car, I had a chance to buy one with a webasto roof, wish I did get it now - I didnt get it because it had some major rust around the webasto.
Your 2 looked real nice.
Now lets watch the rest of the video haha
I like your intro / end music. your videos are cool to by the way. thanks
Removing the reflector and polarizer is probably my second least favorite thing to do to any of the Nintendo handheld system, my least favorite would be getting all the cables for the top screen of the DS line through the hinge.
Also, I don't believe the reflector is necessary with the back light since it's purpose is to reflect external light back through the screen to illuminate the image on the screen. Removing it might yield better results albeit a bit washed out but you could add a bivert mod which would invert the pixels and improve contrast.
Thank you :-)
I’ve been watching this video so much times that I lost count
Need to get Vince some hand repair cream 😂😂
Good to keep it original awesome watch kind a wish I didn’t have my Apple Watch sometimes so I can wear my old wind up self winding watch too
The music adds suspense 👍 good video
Even if you install a backlight, all the original hardware is there unchanged, only adding an extra layer to the screen. I'm sure there are people who prefer the original, unchanged experience, but I believe most of us don't want to go back to the days where we needed very specific lighting conditions in order to play games. That's not what we loved about the Game Boy, so it's not something most people would miss. Improving on that one aspect doesn't take away anything from anything else. All the things we love about it are still present and one of the biggest annoyances is gone. Plus, when the backlight is turned off the screen looks the same as before. It's just a step to getting the best experience possible on original hardware, which judging by how popular RGB and HDMI mods and Sony PVM/BVM/Trinitron TVs are, is something people want. Just because someone wants to play on original hardware doesn't mean they don't want the best experience possible.
I've personally been spoiled by backlit screens, and I don't think I could go back now. I believe a lot of people think the same as me. Having a backlit screen mod goes a long way to making an old handheld more usable again. I would keep the backlit screen, and also install a bivert mod and flip the polarizing filter, as the contrast is a bit bad with the backlight mod and that helps make it better.
My dad had a MGB GT when he was younger he then got married had kids he had to sell it for a bigger car. He sold it to his friend 2 weeks after that his friend crashed the car and it was a write off. Everytime my dad sees one he tell me the same story he was gutted
I love how the MGB looks.. One of my dream cars is a British racing green MGB roadster with chrome bumpers and wire wheels but sadly, we don't have a lot of those in the Philippines....
Vince finally get some haters? 26 thumbs down on a good fix? Get out of here.
nah, they are @keep your game boy original@ haters, most are hipsters
That music that starts at 16:00 I need that for my studies!
Awesome video man, nice Heuer btw.
Came for the Nintendo product, stayed for the vintage British car.
Dude amazing job nice video
Really good video vince, why not try to do another game gear but do the diy mini 2 led convention.
You take 2 leds and slide them into the sides of the high voltage tube and add a resistor and your done.
Its awesome as well its a GG and its a really good mod that keeps the GG more original buy keeping the tube
This is soo nostalgic
the most casual collab ever hahah
Where did you buy the polarizer? I have a hard time finding the right one at the right price. I don’t know if it needs to be a linear or circular polarizer as well... thank you and great video!
eBay, it didn't mention in the listing if it was linear or not. I got the iPad ones as they are bigger and cheaper ;-)
My Mate, WELL DONE ! ! !
Thanks Technixbul :-)
35:00 The problem with more modern silver foil is they are too shiny. I tried that method trying to fix a Super Vision screen which had exactly the same issue. I was not happy with the results.
Nice Heuer watch Vince! Waiting for more watch repair videos.
Thank you, just did a pocket watch vid if you are interested :-)
@@Mymatevince Yes, I already see it. Next try a fusee/verge one! Regards from Spain.
Elliot and vince better pair up for a collab!!
Polarisers only work when they are at ninety degrees to each other Vince, It part of how liquid crystals twist and align when voltage is applied to them
Thanks Gower :-)
@mymatevince Order non sticky ones and then rig them to sit with tape.
vince mate remove the foil between the light and the polarizer
the foil is for reflective lighting like in the sun or for preventing light reflections inside the case
it will be much brighter and more useable without the majority of the light being wasted
plus you could add a variable resistor for the brightness to save on battery in dark conditions
I think if you could backlight it, but put an on/off switch somewhere like the battery compartment (so hidden but keeping exterior original) then it would allow best of both worlds, because you wouldn't want the backlight draining the batteries during the day. try Elliot see if there is a way to cut out the bubbles or does it ruin the polarizer? so that you could in future cut the polarizer to get rid of bubble like they do with tinted window fitting. I know you couldn't do anything about the dust trapped between the polarizer and the screen, but reduce the amount of bubble between the screen and the polarizer.
Very good ideas Michael, thanks for sharing them :-)
I do not have that kind of patience. I would have just replaced the screen assembly.
Vince has Elliot told you about Sendico, a Japanese impact site he uses quite a bit? Can you try finding a faulty item on Sendico?
He has, it looks very interesting :-)
@@Mymatevince I've personally used sendico but I warn you it's shipping that is awful. I bought 90 USD worth of stuff (famicom, super famicom, Sega Saturn, wonderswan color, and a super famicom controller) the shipping for that package was about 95usd
Literally about to watch this after this comment, I cannot wait to see the results, and I have been waiting for a long time for a fix like this one.
man! i gotta say when you started peeling the layers from the LCD i thought that thing was trashed. i see now how they had the LCD set up. very cool! i wonder, did someone leave that gameboy inside a car with the sun shining on it? what caused the screen to look burned??
its called vineger syndrome, it happens from a chemical reaction in the lcd polarizer film after 20 to 30 years, if will happen or when will happens depends on quality of polarizer film and environment. The name is because screen smell like vineger after reaction starts
@@arthurcollector4002 oh, i see. that's cool. the more ya know! :)
I agree, very cool to know. It definitely had a strong odour when removing it. Thanks Arthur :-)
I personally would like a backlight gameboy to play games on it thats why i play games o my gba sp rather than on the gameboy color cause i preffer gameboy color but without a backlight nowadays is unplayable
tbh with gameboys i've always found it to be almost pointless to do diagnostics, if after washing, corrosion removal and alcohol rinsing everything, it still has issues. those issues are likely not going to be an easy fix (i.e you'd need to salvage parts from another gameboy).
great video as always
Thank you Joseph :-)
Great job vince
Thanks Adrian :-)
I agree with not including a backlight. For people who want the better playing experience from these they would get a backlit gameboy colour. And if they want a more original gameboy with a backlight, there is already something for that - a Gameboy Light!
So for me at least a backlit gameboy pocket doesn't make a huge amount of sense.
that is a beautiful car! super nice. did it have grey interior?? the front end kind of reminds me of a datsun 240/260/280z the way the headlights are.
"on the front it's a nightmare; on the back it's even harder" oh lovely