"If it had a manual transmission I'd buy it, since it doesn't, I'd say lease it". The Xterra comes in both 5-speed automatic as well as a 6-speed manual. Also, I'm surprised you guys didn't mention any of the features the Pro4X comes with like a locking rear diff and the hill descent control. In fact, you didnt talk about ANY of the features of this rig.
It's cringe. They didn't talk about the factory 1" lift or the Bilstein shocks. Like you said they didn't mention the locking rear diff or hill descent. They didn't show 10% of what this vehicle is capable of.
Like most of us Americans, the only Nissans that they know about are a 370Z or GT-R...It would shock a lot of USA off road boys to learn that oversea, the Nissan Patrol is second ONLY to the Land Cruiser in ability and numbers, and actually outperforms the LC in the desert!!!...There are more than just Jeeps out there guys....
@@freedomrider266 Yeah and in the states the Xterra is the FJ Cruiser's competition. I'd love patrols here, but I'd also love if you guys had Xterras there, I think the Navara guys would appreciate them at least. My xterra currently has a Nissan Titan front IFS suspension and diff swapped in. live.staticflickr.com/65535/50212511237_90fa78031b_h.jpg
they even first teased that the prado might come to the states or at least build a pathfinder or armada based on it....yeah nope it got even worse, hell the juke RS could probably best it off road lol
I have a 2002 4x4 and I drive it on rough terrain most of the time, everything still original on it I just maintain it properly and this thing is a beast crawling up these mountains where I live, even the paint still original and very shiny...
I am a young guy, but i've had a lot of special cars. The Xterra is still my favorite of them all. Its tough, capable, reliable as hell, and doesn't complain about anything.
Did anyone else notice how he checked the coin at 6:57, then casually dropped it to get another shot at landing on "heads"? My guess is it was on "tails" when he checked his wrist. We used do do that in elementary school if the coin toss didn't go our way.
Ha, I just saw this, I know this is from a few years ago Nathan, but the front doesn't have an independent rear suspension Lol! No worries, just busting your chops. Your videos have definitely come up over the years.
Thanks a lot! Yes, please - give me some ideas! There is one thing: we use this trail (the Left Hand Canyon ORV trail) because it is our measuring stick for "basic" off road driving. Sure, we could go and do serious boulder-bashing, but that would take us away from a trail we can ascertain the basic characteristics of the vehicle at hand. We use the same location because we know it and know the various levels of ability needed for each vehicle. Still, I'm always game for a new ORV trail. Thanks!
Pro-4X package is quite a bargain. You get rear view backup camera, navigation, bluetooth, much better audio than base version. I even consider it as everyday car.
There is a local group in SW Missouri, they really test these! I like the review, and always watch your reviews. I was real close to having my wife buy one of these as her vehicle. Instead we purchased a highlander, and am impressed. I saw the SW Missouri group do some trails in their area, and ever since then, I wanted one. Power windows, locks, and that much power!
Thank you guys! I wanted so much to see a new review of the Xterra. I love this car and it´s off road capabilities. I hope the on road review for this Xterra would be more detailed on features. And Nathan should take his kids for a long ride in the back seat just to tell us how comfortable they were.
4 actual doors for starters, and its one of the best priced truck based SUV's on the market for what you get! and definitely not underpowered. The VQ40 has plenty of power for the size of the Xterra.
Thanks for reviewing this vehicle. Your Moab review first turned my attention to this 4WD and I am really excited to hear your thoughts during tomorrows on-road review. I've been looking at buying a 4WD for a while and the Xterra PRO-4X seems to the favorite. The other two in this field (FJ and Jeep Wrangler) are good but each have some limitations/drawbacks. Love both the channels. Thanks!!!!!
Jeeps have had 4 cylinder engines over the years, but none that were Fords. Over the years they did use some GM and even Audi 4 cylinders and even a Renault 4 cylinder diesel, but no Pinto motors. Not that it would have been a bad thing. The Ford 2.3 was a good engine and is still in widespread use in various motorsports classes across the country.
People that dismiss this Xterra favoring the FJ I think they over simplify life. This Xterra is way more comfortable in long journeys and in city. It drives almost like a sedan, in my opinion. This is a no nonsense car. It got all you want to have in a car, and yes, it can go off road as any unmodified jeep wrangler. The only complaint is the fuel MPG... bad. All Nissan cars have bad MPG. And yes, they are not pretty. But yes, they are comfortable compared to Toyotas.
I am not an off-road guy, unless you count the driveway, but it sounds like a diesel with its good low end grunt would be the best choice for off-roading, esp. for the low speed rock hopping.
Thanks man. I always base my rating(s) on the vehicle at hand. So, if this very model had a manual, I would give it a "Buy It!" Thanks for watching and we'll have the on-road, full review up in a few days!
Not mentioned in the review, the 4.0 is a stroked version of the 3.5L, and it's got a low range transfer case. That combo typically works well for both on-road and off-road without being a tractor on the road. Still, a modern diesel might be nice. They are always heavy and expensive though.
Nathan, did you give it only a lease it because this particular xterra was automatic, or because they don't come with a manual at all? Because they are definitely available with a 6-speed standard. Either way, great video guys! Love the off road reviews.
thelocustemperor Xterra is a Compact SUV. 4Runner is a Midsize SUV. That's why they compared it to the FJ. Know what you're talking about before trying to call someone out.
yea a stock first gen xterra is the same length and only 3" wider than a focus of the same period. 4" SHORTER than a modern forrester and 1" skinnier. i offroaded one for thousands of miles. put ~$300 into it (not including your 32" tires) and lose the mudflaps, step rails, and sway bars and go almost anywhere.
I agree with some comments, show more off road, complete view of the road. You guys are pretty good! Also different topic nissan customer service does suck
Roman, was the coin tails when you slapped it on your hand? If so, I can't believe you would do Nathan like that. So wrong :) Keep up the great work, love your videos. BTW....very creative and imaginative to have the cam under the Xterra. You don't see this much, but you can....on TFLC!
I took it to Moab. It was able to hang with a Jeep Unlimited Sahara - everywhere it went. YOU bring the minivan and prove me wrong. Get it on video and you'll get $100.
So here's my questions, would you rather have the Xterra pro4x or the wrangler unlimited sahara? And then if you threw in xterra pro4x or the wrangler unlimited rubion? Would your answer still be the same? I have struggled between which of these 2 vehicles to get. I am a jeep owner, and lover. But the xterra is a little more comfy, and maybe better mpg?
yes video doesn't show off road too well, but nothing i saw required 4 wheel drive in that rig. maybe that last section of video with a 15+ degree incline. wouldn't say that it keeps up with a wrangler with just a new front bumper. i say this owning a 12 pro-4x 6 speed. good call on mud flaps. i ruined one of mine the same way they almost ruined one. I do love these reviews. the pro-4x vs X and S road handle very differently so if you get the chance to compare on your next video, you should.
Yeah i heard Nissan is having problems with these engines something about coolant leaking into the transmission or something like that. The frontier pickup has the same engine too. I wish Nissan would make these direct injected and redesign both these vehicles
Nathan, I have owned a total 4 Xterras (own an Xterra S now) from 2008-2012. I lived in Colorado for over 13 years and wheeled just about everywhere it could go. But I couldn't quite recognize the trail you guys were on, But it was too simple to properly test the Xterra Pro 4X. I could give you ideas on trails in the Woodland Park, CO area that would truly test the capability of the Pro 4X, including having to engage the locker, without risking any damage. If you are interested, let me know.
You guys should make a offroad adventuring test between mercedez benz amg g63, nissan xterra, toyota land cruiser, toyota tacoma, jeep wrangler, toyota fj cruiser, land rover lr4 and maybe the ford f-150 raptor This is just proposals.
Are Nissan ever going to update this car? This is the 9th model year. It has fuel economy, transmission, gearbox and in car tech lifted straight from 2005.
That was really cool/unique under-car video footage and the "slo-mo mud time" should come with a warning as 'car porn'. Thanks to the entire TFL Car team for another entertaining and informative review!!
Couple things.. This does come in a 6 speed manual... And this doesnt need a off road bumper to hit moab... Check out the National Xterra Meet and goneMOAB for a great time off roading the Xterra
My question is which system has the best rear-visibility? I thought the FJ Cruiser was poor at that, Jeep Wrangler was fine - but this? Is there a rear-cam or ????? Locking diff’s? And while my Pinto might not make this, remember, didn’t Jeep use the Pinto engine at one time?
These vehicles are great. As Marcusd says - they are comfortable as well. If you want to improve the fuel mileage, add a intake filter such as a K & N or AEM plus a Gibson Cat-back exhaust; you'll gain about 2 mpg. I have done it.
I'm 16, just got a new Xterra and I absolutely love it. Even though I would rather have a Jeep (who wouldn't) and I HATE Japanese cars. But, like my parents said, I'll get what they buy and I will like it. And I do. Mine is white 2012 xterra x with black rims. Sexy
there are many other organizations doing those reviews of "higher quality" or more popular cars. these are pretty much the only reviews you can find for the xterra.
you mean rear locker that operates more like the FJ's locker does? i totally agree with that, you made it sound like the pro-4x doesn't come with a locker, which if you own one, you know it does. BTW you can bypass the BS nissan limitations on the rear locker pretty easily.
jydracing, I believe they were in Left Hand Canyon, just outside of Boulder. There's a trail there called Big Momma Hill and I don't see anything short of a heavily modified Xterra making it to the top. Our LR3 rides the sliders quite often going up it.
Well actually I have both the Xterra Pro4X and FJ cruiser I'm 6"1 250lbs and I fit fine in the back seat . The only thing that I wish the Xterra had is a rear diff lock like the FJ does.
1guy: Thanx for the erudite comment - nice to see here. And I stand corrected…I was getting my Pinto/G.M Iron Duke/Jeep lore wrong, mixing it with my old International Scout’s AMC 258cu 6. Then I started confusing all the diesel Jeepney’s left over from WWII in the Philippines - and finally remember the Ford 2.3 was used at one time in the Mustang SVO? Thanx for the clarification!
"If it had a manual transmission I'd buy it, since it doesn't, I'd say lease it". The Xterra comes in both 5-speed automatic as well as a 6-speed manual. Also, I'm surprised you guys didn't mention any of the features the Pro4X comes with like a locking rear diff and the hill descent control. In fact, you didnt talk about ANY of the features of this rig.
Amatuers...lol
It's cringe. They didn't talk about the factory 1" lift or the Bilstein shocks. Like you said they didn't mention the locking rear diff or hill descent. They didn't show 10% of what this vehicle is capable of.
Like most of us Americans, the only Nissans that they know about are a 370Z or GT-R...It would shock a lot of USA off road boys to learn that oversea, the Nissan Patrol is second ONLY to the Land Cruiser in ability and numbers, and actually outperforms the LC in the desert!!!...There are more than just Jeeps out there guys....
@@freedomrider266 Yeah and in the states the Xterra is the FJ Cruiser's competition. I'd love patrols here, but I'd also love if you guys had Xterras there, I think the Navara guys would appreciate them at least.
My xterra currently has a Nissan Titan front IFS suspension and diff swapped in. live.staticflickr.com/65535/50212511237_90fa78031b_h.jpg
They're too busy working the comedy routine
It is to bad that Nissan as elected to discontinue the X. But truth be told I would rather she die than be bastardized into some CUV.
+GeeBigSup Like the Pathy?
+William Ahlers lol the new pathfinder is so ugly... it looks just like all the other 1000 new "car utility vehicles"
Nah they're only discontinuing in the US, everywhere else including Canada still has it
they even first teased that the prado might come to the states or at least build a pathfinder or armada based on it....yeah nope it got even worse, hell the juke RS could probably best it off road lol
Out of Canada too.
"The front is an independent rear suspension"
You heard it here folks! :P
*laughs in Pontiac fiero*
7 years and it is that good....I have a 2011, mountains, snow, its all good !
I have a 2002 4x4 and I drive it on rough terrain most of the time, everything still original on it I just maintain it properly and this thing is a beast crawling up these mountains where I live, even the paint still original and very shiny...
The best off road vehicle I currently own, sitting on 31s. I’ve jumped it. Climbed in the snow. Just banged the crap out of it. Still rides great
But I don’t recommend air time.
Good review 👍 hope Nissan starts making them again soon maybe when new 2021 ++ frontier comes out ???
You said if it had a MT buy it. You never mentioned that the Pro-4X is offered with a 6spd manual. I have one. Love it.
I have a 2005 Xterra. Have done many off road trips like this. Blow 4-Runner and Jeep out of the water!
7:47 Did he said the front was an "independent rear" suspension?
This video is so old, Tommy was sitting in back in a child seat.
I am a young guy, but i've had a lot of special cars. The Xterra is still my favorite of them all. Its tough, capable, reliable as hell, and doesn't complain about anything.
We have the 2012 s version and it works awesomely!!!!
I am so happy seeing you here 7 years younger.
Kudos to Nathan for the Pontiac, MI shirt!
Did anyone else notice how he checked the coin at 6:57, then casually dropped it to get another shot at landing on "heads"? My guess is it was on "tails" when he checked his wrist. We used do do that in elementary school if the coin toss didn't go our way.
i've used the "heads I win tails you lose" trick a few times, too. its actually worked.
Great relic!
Lock rear differential, at the end of video very handy.
We miss this fun SUV
Ha, I just saw this, I know this is from a few years ago Nathan, but the front doesn't have an independent rear suspension Lol! No worries, just busting your chops. Your videos have definitely come up over the years.
Thanks a lot! Yes, please - give me some ideas! There is one thing: we use this trail (the Left Hand Canyon ORV trail) because it is our measuring stick for "basic" off road driving. Sure, we could go and do serious boulder-bashing, but that would take us away from a trail we can ascertain the basic characteristics of the vehicle at hand. We use the same location because we know it and know the various levels of ability needed for each vehicle. Still, I'm always game for a new ORV trail. Thanks!
Pro-4X package is quite a bargain. You get rear view backup camera, navigation, bluetooth, much better audio than base version. I even consider it as everyday car.
Nissan exterior is awesome
Little better than jeep wrangler unlimited‘s in Rubicon and Jk
Dude, my ebike could do that trail! But so could my 06 Off Road Xterra. Fun review thanks!
Did he call the front an "independent rear suspension" ?
I have gyno in my balls
I bought a nissan frontier pro-4x with a manual. Worth every penny
There is a local group in SW Missouri, they really test these! I like the review, and always watch your reviews. I was real close to having my wife buy one of these as her vehicle. Instead we purchased a highlander, and am impressed. I saw the SW Missouri group do some trails in their area, and ever since then, I wanted one. Power windows, locks, and that much power!
I mean Toyota FJ cruiser Ford Bronco& Sport yup I want the Xterra!
Thank you guys! I wanted so much to see a new review of the Xterra. I love this car and it´s off road capabilities. I hope the on road review for this Xterra would be more detailed on features. And Nathan should take his kids for a long ride in the back seat just to tell us how comfortable they were.
Take the sun glases off when taking to the camera.
4 actual doors for starters, and its one of the best priced truck based SUV's on the market for what you get! and definitely not underpowered. The VQ40 has plenty of power for the size of the Xterra.
Thanks for reviewing this vehicle. Your Moab review first turned my attention to this 4WD and I am really excited to hear your thoughts during tomorrows on-road review. I've been looking at buying a 4WD for a while and the Xterra PRO-4X seems to the favorite. The other two in this field (FJ and Jeep Wrangler) are good but each have some limitations/drawbacks. Love both the channels. Thanks!!!!!
Jeeps have had 4 cylinder engines over the years, but none that were Fords. Over the years they did use some GM and even Audi 4 cylinders and even a Renault 4 cylinder diesel, but no Pinto motors. Not that it would have been a bad thing. The Ford 2.3 was a good engine and is still in widespread use in various motorsports classes across the country.
yes !! love the off road reviews !! how about the 2014 4runner !
Yes it does and we're about to test the newest one in a few days. Stay tuned!
Nothing beats the big mud hole in the Sorento!!!
You didn't show the frame is so damn heavy duty on those.
these cars never change!
Great video guys, when you guys do the reviews for alot of the suvs or crossovers, can you address blindspots and rear vision.
At least it has decent head room.
Love the review guys, and love the truck
People that dismiss this Xterra favoring the FJ I think they over simplify life. This Xterra is way more comfortable in long journeys and in city. It drives almost like a sedan, in my opinion. This is a no nonsense car. It got all you want to have in a car, and yes, it can go off road as any unmodified jeep wrangler. The only complaint is the fuel MPG... bad. All Nissan cars have bad MPG. And yes, they are not pretty. But yes, they are comfortable compared to Toyotas.
I am not an off-road guy, unless you count the driveway, but it sounds like a diesel with its good low end grunt would be the best choice for off-roading, esp. for the low speed rock hopping.
Thanks man. I always base my rating(s) on the vehicle at hand. So, if this very model had a manual, I would give it a "Buy It!" Thanks for watching and we'll have the on-road, full review up in a few days!
Not mentioned in the review, the 4.0 is a stroked version of the 3.5L, and it's got a low range transfer case. That combo typically works well for both on-road and off-road without being a tractor on the road. Still, a modern diesel might be nice. They are always heavy and expensive though.
Manual trim comes with Dana44, Auto does not. Also has rear Lockers.(both auto and manual)
As always great and fun review! The back ground music is also great!
Nathan, did you give it only a lease it because this particular xterra was automatic, or because they don't come with a manual at all? Because they are definitely available with a 6-speed standard. Either way, great video guys! Love the off road reviews.
Approach/break over/departure still better than the new Colorado ZR2
If u noticed nissan dosent redesign there cars that often
it's almost identical/competes with the Toyota 4Runner, how could you miss that?
thelocustemperor Xterra is a Compact SUV. 4Runner is a Midsize SUV. That's why they compared it to the FJ. Know what you're talking about before trying to call someone out.
you think the xterra is compact...?
endocry Does this car look compact in ANY WAY to you? 😳
yea a stock first gen xterra is the same length and only 3" wider than a focus of the same period. 4" SHORTER than a modern forrester and 1" skinnier. i offroaded one for thousands of miles. put ~$300 into it (not including your 32" tires) and lose the mudflaps, step rails, and sway bars and go almost anywhere.
You guys haven't challenged this vehicle at all, I want see this vehicle going up the cliffhanger.
That was smooth Roman. Letting the quarter "accidentally" fall off your hand ;) lol
The xTerra and Frontier are due for an upgrade... I just really hope they don't totally mess em up like they did the Pathfinder.
You guys should take a sedan here one day just to show us how hard this off road corse really is
I agree with some comments, show more off road, complete view of the road. You guys are pretty good! Also different topic nissan customer service does suck
I own a 2004 2.8 turbo diesel 5 speed manual ,hi And low Xterra ,I love it
31k.. amazing. Wranglers and trucks today are 45-50k
yea idk but the side air bag deployment problem unless fixed is a deal breaker
Roman, was the coin tails when you slapped it on your hand? If so, I can't believe you would do Nathan like that. So wrong :)
Keep up the great work, love your videos. BTW....very creative and imaginative to have the cam under the Xterra. You don't see this much, but you can....on TFLC!
I took it to Moab. It was able to hang with a Jeep Unlimited Sahara - everywhere it went. YOU bring the minivan and prove me wrong. Get it on video and you'll get $100.
Yea, I was trying to say, "The front is an independent suspension, UNLIKE the rear." Come on, I was teetering and excited. Even I make mistakes.
I love my pinto and my titan swapped frontier
So here's my questions, would you rather have the Xterra pro4x or the wrangler unlimited sahara? And then if you threw in xterra pro4x or the wrangler unlimited rubion? Would your answer still be the same? I have struggled between which of these 2 vehicles to get. I am a jeep owner, and lover. But the xterra is a little more comfy, and maybe better mpg?
This car is absolutely badass
Just bought an 03 4X4 with the supercharged VG33 as a project car today. Picked it up for $800, couldn't pass it up!!
yes video doesn't show off road too well, but nothing i saw required 4 wheel drive in that rig. maybe that last section of video with a 15+ degree incline. wouldn't say that it keeps up with a wrangler with just a new front bumper. i say this owning a 12 pro-4x 6 speed. good call on mud flaps. i ruined one of mine the same way they almost ruined one. I do love these reviews. the pro-4x vs X and S road handle very differently so if you get the chance to compare on your next video, you should.
Yeah i heard Nissan is having problems with these engines something about coolant leaking into the transmission or something like that. The frontier pickup has the same engine too. I wish Nissan would make these direct injected and redesign both these vehicles
Nathan, I have owned a total 4 Xterras (own an Xterra S now) from 2008-2012. I lived in Colorado for over 13 years and wheeled just about everywhere it could go. But I couldn't quite recognize the trail you guys were on, But it was too simple to properly test the Xterra Pro 4X. I could give you ideas on trails in the Woodland Park, CO area that would truly test the capability of the Pro 4X, including having to engage the locker, without risking any damage. If you are interested, let me know.
"Slo mo mud time" FAIL! Sorry but laaaaaaame review of a great vehicle.
which is better a new 2013 nissan xterra pro-4x or used 2010 hummer h3 alpha
You guys should make a offroad adventuring test between mercedez benz amg g63, nissan xterra, toyota land cruiser, toyota tacoma, jeep wrangler, toyota fj cruiser, land rover lr4 and maybe the ford f-150 raptor This is just proposals.
ranger.. :-D
Hey lets not leave out a 98 Pathfinder ;)
I have an Xterra off road and I prefer the Auto over the manual trany, I feel it does better off road.
Great video guys. Love your stuff
Are Nissan ever going to update this car? This is the 9th model year. It has fuel economy, transmission, gearbox and in car tech lifted straight from 2005.
That was really cool/unique under-car video footage and the "slo-mo mud time" should come with a warning as 'car porn'.
Thanks to the entire TFL Car team for another entertaining and informative review!!
That's a pretty tame trail. 4 wheel drive not even necessary.
I've done harder trails in my minivan.
Pinto jokes. Never gets old lol
I remember the first pinto when it came to the new world along with the Nina and Santa Maria.
Couple things.. This does come in a 6 speed manual...
And this doesnt need a off road bumper to hit moab...
Check out the National Xterra Meet and goneMOAB for a great time off roading the Xterra
My question is which system has the best rear-visibility? I thought the FJ Cruiser was poor at that, Jeep Wrangler was fine - but this? Is there a rear-cam or ????? Locking diff’s? And while my Pinto might not make this, remember, didn’t Jeep use the Pinto engine at one time?
These vehicles are great. As Marcusd says - they are comfortable as well. If you want to improve the fuel mileage, add a intake filter such as a K & N or AEM plus a Gibson Cat-back exhaust; you'll gain about 2 mpg. I have done it.
I'm 16, just got a new Xterra and I absolutely love it. Even though I would rather have a Jeep (who wouldn't) and I HATE Japanese cars. But, like my parents said, I'll get what they buy and I will like it. And I do. Mine is white 2012 xterra x with black rims. Sexy
its looks just like its suppose t look, or do you want them to get rid of the frame like pathfinder?
there are many other organizations doing those reviews of "higher quality" or more popular cars. these are pretty much the only reviews you can find for the xterra.
We're doing just pickup trucks and vans on that channel.
Thank you for doing off-road tests. Most auto magazines/blogs just test on road or maybe cruise down a gravel road.
What did the coin show *before* Roman dropped it to the ground and was it on purpose?
you mean rear locker that operates more like the FJ's locker does? i totally agree with that, you made it sound like the pro-4x doesn't come with a locker, which if you own one, you know it does. BTW you can bypass the BS nissan limitations on the rear locker pretty easily.
jydracing, I believe they were in Left Hand Canyon, just outside of Boulder. There's a trail there called Big Momma Hill and I don't see anything short of a heavily modified Xterra making it to the top. Our LR3 rides the sliders quite often going up it.
which is good...look what happened to the pathfinder when it changed. Turned into a POS 4 door mini van
Well actually I have both the Xterra Pro4X and FJ cruiser I'm 6"1 250lbs and I fit fine in the back seat . The only thing that I wish the Xterra had is a rear diff lock like the FJ does.
True, but does that also mean that the fJ competes with the 4runner?
wondering which trail did you guys usually test sub offroad or mud road?
i always liked this truck
The interior looks very similar to my '08 pathfinder. I'd love to bring it here.
Can be set to automatic Nissan XTerra 2007.g of Pathfinder 2005.g
1guy: Thanx for the erudite comment - nice to see here. And I stand corrected…I was getting my Pinto/G.M Iron Duke/Jeep lore wrong, mixing it with my old International Scout’s AMC 258cu 6. Then I started confusing all the diesel Jeepney’s left over from WWII in the Philippines - and finally remember the Ford 2.3 was used at one time in the Mustang SVO? Thanx for the clarification!
LOL, I know what you meant :) Just had to poke a little fun. Was a good video, and demonstrates the downside to IFS.
The last good old SUV !!!
You guys should do a throwback review of the 2005-2012 Nissan pathfinder. Great SUV.
I'm waiting for them to do just that.