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I believe the deathly hallows are only known because of their involvement with death. The Elder wand with its deathly creation to its bloody trail in history. I believe the creator of the three hallows could have been a very gifted magician who was bested in a bet and/or robbed by the three brother hence the death coming back and killing the eldest brother in the night with a knife because he didn’t have a wand to do so.
I am a maker of wands myself and made The Elder Wand, many in fact lol, and had one that was broken. So in my creative way, set forth in making, remaking, the broken Elder Wand. Came up with a backstory of some powerful wizard finding the broken Elder Wand and somehow repairing the wand and in doing so it released a dark energy thus creating The Dark Elder Wand. It is black in color, has one less knob up the shaft and has a burnt look in the white part with the runes. It is quite cool looking and my own take on a Potterverse legend lol.
I still say The Peverils made the three hallows and The Tale of The Three Brothers was inspired by how each of them died. One from Violence, One from Heartbreak, and One from Old Age. But that the tale as a whole is a fictitious cautionary story for anyone who may follow in their footsteps.
I think what happened is that Death from the story was actually just a thestral, the brothers killed it, harvested the materials and used them to make the Hallows
@@calamitous2 That could just be explained by the cloak being difficult to make. It's mentioned a few times that invisibility cloaks are rare, which implies that there are more than one out there, but they are hard to create. It would make sense that, even it's made from a Threstral (Perhaps the cloak is made from Thestral skin) that it would be extremely hard to make. We know the Elder Wand's core is Thestral tail feather, so it's not hard to imagine "death" in the story is just symbolism for a Thestral. Like I said earlier, the cloak could be made of Thestral skin, and the Resurrection Stone could be like a Bezoar, but in Thestrals (A bezoar in the HP universe is a stone found in the stomach of goats, and it can be effective against poisons)
Could be. The wand's core is thestral tail feather. The cloak could be made of thestral skin, and the resurrection stone could be like a Bezoar, but in Thestrals.
@@jonnyb.animationstutorials7119dont know where it was said invisibility cloaks are rare since we see so many people having one throughout the series, but as far as Harry’s cloak goes it can’t be made from thestral since then anyone who can see a thestral would be able to see it. And one thing that was mentioned early on is that invisibility cloaks wear out over time, either the charms/magic fading or from spell damage. Ron commented how Harry’s still working perfectly even though it was so old is not normal.
It seems odd to me that no one ever tried to make a thestral core wand except one master wand maker. As with most things in the universe, there's just not enough information on why things are special to guess about it. It's just presented as high magic, and that's that.
With the right materials a skilled wand maker could fashion an elder wand. But would such a wand be capable of the incredible magic that the elder wand is able to perform? I’m not so certain. While the elder wand is powerful, deadly, and produces results beyond what is generally thought possible of magic. But are these amazing things possible because of the wand’s construction and the materials it is made from? Or is its power a result of the wand passing from the hand of one powerful warlock to another for centuries? “The wand learning from the wizard, the wizard from the wand.”-Ollivander
To quote Kaos Theory expert Ian Malcolm "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." In this case magic users instead of scientists, and while they might be able to recreate it, they really shouldn't! Harry's decision to destroy the Elder Wand in the last movie was the better choice!
You do realize that Harry breaking The Elder Wand is just in the movie right? In the book after The Battle Of Hogwarts he uses The Elder Wand to fix his original wand and returned The Elder Wand back to Dumbledore's grave.
@@scottmackenzie62 that's you're opinion and you are entitled to it but I think Harry's decision in the book is better then his decision in the movie is and that is my opinion.
@@connerlackey3952 the elder wand was more sentient than others. who knows? it might mend itself. it is a bit like the One Ring in LOTR if you think about it.
Antioch never had the intention to lose the wand. For a wizard to kill or beat the owner of the elder wand, it must be against the owner will. So Death killing him still won the wand allegiance but you ask a great question as to how another wizard won it from death. It should be remembered the story is dramatized. Its not really Death in disguise, its another wizard acting on the intention to murder. We don't know who the wizard is that killed him but what we do know is that after Antioch death Emeric the Evil had the wand. So its likely he killed him or Emeric killed the wizard that murdered Antioch.
"Death in disguise" could also imply that someone was influenced by Death to carry out the deed, as Death whispered promises of wealth and power like the devil on his shoulder
I still think Harry not fixing his broken wand and then snapping the elder wand at the end of the movie is one of the biggest transgressions compared to the books.
@@Tracer_Sweat It is a screen play, and Rolling did have something to do with it. I enjoyed reading (just once). The play is rather old now so it is not something new.
One thing I have curious about since I read my 1st harry potter book is how do the wand makers get the core into the wand? Does Ollivander have a super long and thin drill bit on a drill press? Have the wands been sliced in half length-wise and a little bit chiselled out? Does he slice the tip off and stuff a unicorn hair into it and reseal the end? Such an important and earth-shattering question. I know i have too much time on my hands but I can't be the only muggle who has pondered this dilemma. Any answers to my query?
It must go into the handle n run through the entirety of the wand based on the broken wand, Harry's wand in deathly hollows..the book stated that it was held together only by the Phoenix feathers when it was split in half. They can't put it in the tip..n they probably use magic to seal the hole once it's drilled into the wood..then they most likely stain amd push it to finish it.
The story of the 3 Brothers is a story of the muggles and magic. If they choose the path of Grindlewald and Voldemort, coveting power, there will only be loss and death. If they choose the path of longing to be together, they would enjoy it for awhile, but ultimately it will lead to heartbreak and disappointment. However, if they choose the path of secrecy, they would live long lives and great death in their own time.
ive always thought it weird that what it was made of was well known but nobody (dark witch/wizards come to mind) never tryed making a lesser version of the elder wand. it would still be more powerful than most
@@thedailyracecar2064someone did. Gregorovitch possessed, and was duplicating the qualities of the elder wand. How well he succeeded in doing so hasn’t been discussed.
i think the brothers created the hollows but to recreate the elder wand might be very difficult make one yes but i think the power of the wand came from centuries of powerful wizards using the wand to quote Olivander the wizard leans from the wand and the wand learns from the wizard. I think you would need time and powerful wizards using the wand to recreate the elder wands power.
Wete Dumbledore's glasses a powerful magical item that allowed him to see through the invisibility cloak, perhaps the same enchantment that was on Moody's eye.
I think you're quite correct on all counts. Yes, a skilled wand maker could indeed recreate the elder wand...or at least _an_ elder wand. But what kind of witch or wizard could indeed master it would be quite another thing "The wand chooses the wizard" after all.
I don't think it would be that difficult to create another elder wand for a proficient crafts person. The tree that the Elder wand came from, an Elder tree, is not rare at all. They're actually quite common. Common as weeds. Its use is what's rare. I'm inclined to think that the wood simply isn't a good wand wood and owing to its reputation few wand makers will bother with it.
Also not many trees produced magic just the same as not many humans had magic. it could be that very, very few elder trees with magic did produce wand quality wood. An elder wand would have needed to have been made from lumber not branches as it is hollow and as someone suspected in the comments usually it is live wood / wood cut and cured from a living tree whereas Elder Wand wood may have come from a long dead tree. It is intriguing none the less to think about.
what if the hallows were made by wizards and goblins working together. That would explain why no other wizard made items even came close to the capabilities of the hallows.
I feel like the important elements were more the tragic, mythic elements in their construction and a fate that they were intended to be used in, more than particularly gifted craftsmen.
Haven’t watched the video but the answer is yes… short explanation! The wand was either 1 actually created by Death him/it self and thus death can just create it once more if he wishes or 2. The wand was created by the 3 brothers and then that would mean a “new” elder wand could technically be created again since it already was by some powerful wizard. Either way the wand technically can be recreated yes. Thx for watching
You left out an important aspect. Ollivander told Harry that the wand chooses the wizard, and the wizard and the wand go on a journey together, they learn from each other. So even if a talented wandmaker created a replica of the Elder Wand, this new wand wouldn't have the "experience" or "memory" of centuries of great magic performed with it that the Elder Wand has.
@@Zac_Frost Yeah, but Antioch was a powerful wizard who created a potent wand. Voldemort also did exceptional magic with Lucius Malfoy's mediocre wand so of course there are more variables. That's why I said "left out", that doesn't mean that all the others are not true. :)
"We?" was such a beautiful piece of dialogue to complement why Harry destroyed it. Ron instantly saw it not as Harry's, but also as his. You could see this being the start of a future power struggle, as absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Fun fact, the Invisibility Cloak is actually not even magical at all! Rather, it is the molted skin of a Changewing Dragon, a specie of which spits acid rather than fire, can turn invisible against anything that isn’t itself invisible, (i.e. it couldn’t turn invisible when flying far from anything that itself is visible such as air), and the dragon itself possesses no magical properties of any kind. That’s right, you can’t use a dragon heartstring from a Changewing in a wand, it simply won’t work. Anyways, when a Changewing molts, it sheds its skin, like any other reptile, and those naturally shed skins are quite literally perfect invisibility cloaks just laying there on the ground for the taking. In fact, although the Changewing’s scales are said to be quite soft, properly cured and treated, (not to mention enchanted in this case), these cloaks can indeed last an immensely long time. Even without proper preservation techniques, the cloaks made of naturally shed Changewing skins will still last much longer than traditional charmed cloth or demiguise pelts. So there, cloak mystery solved, sounds like Mr. Prevell was quite the skilled leather worker for his time, being able to not only find a naturally shed Changewing skin, but also to properly tan, treat, cure, and otherwise magically preserve the shed skin. Note: Killing and skinning a Changewing does not result in a cloak, as the skin used must by naturally shed by a Changewing while it is still alive. So don’t do Dragon Hunting kids. Rockatoa, Brickticks out!
Another Elder Wand could be created, I think, but it wouldn't be exactly the same. Maybe it would be more flexible, but have less power, or perhaps be even more powerful, but also a lot harder to master.
The Stone in the first movie, whatever you prefer to call it, is/may even be on a level higher than any individual piece of the deathly Hallows, it was made by regular everyday wizards.
@@Jason_L10 its still 2 wizards, and not some fairy tale including the literal avatar of death being its creator. We didn't mean that neither of them are amazing wizards, but in all fairness, they are both still just normal wizards who are just the best normal wizards.
I think what makes this wand so powerful is probably the fact it’s thestral’s core. Death itself. Every owner who dies it absorbs its essence. Like a warlock wand.
I had a thought that if fantastic beasts franchise had continued than maybe someone using the super time turner from the “eight book” would go back in time get the old wand from Grindelwald and use it to repair the future wand.
"Clusters of elderberriers" didn't mean anything to me when i was a reader but when i saw the wand on screen, I thought it was supposed to resemble bones and skeletal joints.
Let us look at this just as logically as Death did. The brother asked for an unbeatable WAND, NOTHING was ever said about the Wizard wielding it. Well, the wand DID remain undefeated so it did exactly what was asked for. The Wizards, not so much.
You would also have to factor in the age of the elder wood and maturity of the thestral. Also the elder wands shape. Might also be that the elder wand becomes more powerful through sacrifice and its current strength is due to the deaths its absorbed in its proximity
Maybe the brothers did meat death in a metaphorical sense. They witnessed the death of someone, maybe they also had a near-death experience what they survived but others didn't. So this witnessing of death could have gifted them with the ability to see thesrals so they were able to experiment with the thestral's hair and other parts.
It's not just the wand, but the Deathly Hallows. Their associated themes are incredibly mythic. I feel like something greater had to have some influence in their creation, circumstances that can't be replicated by just a powerful and talented wandmaker. I feel like the next truly epic wand to emerge in that setting would not be death themed, no elder wood or thestral hair.
Even if it could be recreated, it would be extremely difficult. A renowned wand maker such as Gregorovitch had it for many years yet couldn’t duplicate its abilities.
Using time turners, someone could permanently repair the elder wand by repairing it first with a normal wand for one spell, then go back in time and use the elder wand to cast reparo on itself.
Possible to recreate or something similar, but the exact method of how to make it maybe another step in the mystery behind the Elder Wand, just because i have the materials,how it works and does doesnt mean i know how to make Gun for example . So Death or Eldest Brother used some special craftingmethods to make it that are lost to time. If Wandmaker had the Elder Wand and break it open to better understand how it was made maybe then it could be reacreated but if not the Unique Elder Wand is gone.
An often overlooked bit of info that could likely be assumed as part of the creation process and if true the key piece/ingredient to the recipe is the use of Ancient Magic. I think that the Hallows were objects of outstanding power created with ancient magic. Which now makes me wonder if Dumbledore discovered a way to tap into ancient magic to create the Deluminator, which is a unique device of his own design.
In the book the wand still exists it was broken in the movies and with the TV show coming out it is not likely that it will be broken on the TV show if they do stay true to the books like they said they would.
The elder wand also probably gained power from either the owner causing death of dying through magical means while in possession of the wand. I think in the books its mentioned that if the owner dies a peaceful natural death the wand would lose its power.
There are two coaligning facts that I'd like to put forward. The first is that wands were described as "learning" certain spells from their owners, therefore making it easier for, let's say, the Elder Wand to learn spells related to death and destruction. Something else that surfaces in the world of Harry Potter is intent. A witch or wizard has to want the spell to succeed, to actually know it will succeed, in order to produce consistent results when casting spells. As we learn later on, the verbal component isn't necessary at all, and successful practitioners can simply think of the appropriate incantation in order to cast a spell, charm, hex or curse. This requires focus, intention, and most of all belief. That last one, belief, is most important for my argument. If a witch or wizard believes that they possess the most powerful wand in existence, a wand that has already learned how to deliver death and destruction at the hands of previous owners, then that combination will yield an unprecedented level of power. Simply because the weilder believes it will happen. J.K. Rowling has shown us time and time again that doubt is the biggest hinderence in her world, and that complete focus and belief is the true strength of an individual. The fact that someone allegedly has the most powerful wand in existence is simply a mind game, which alters the perceptions of others when they have to stand against it
it should be possible for a crafty wand maker to create another elder(wood) wand. it might be a difficult task with many possibilities to fail, but it should not be impossible. and even if the new elder(wood) wand comes out to be weaker than the original one, it doesn´t really prove the origin of the OG one as Death´s creation. it would only show that the creator of the new wand wasn´t that capable and powerful as the creator of the old one. and on top of that, i assume even the original elder wand could only bring you so far. it might make your spells stronger and more powerful, but only a top notch sorcerer should be able to unleash and use the wands full potentuial - which would go for the reproduction like for the OG wand. but in the end, most people will think of an alder wand just as a myth, not willing to consider it´s recreation at all.
Somehow I wonder if you couldn’t create a wand with multiple wand woods or wand cores. I mean it’s not impossible to use multiple wood types or to put in multiple cores. Of corse they could just not work, but they could also be extraordinarily powerful. The most interesting option could also be that a wand with multiple wood types and/or core types could be somewhat mental. I mean wands do have some sort of own will like choosing their wizard/witch or sometimes doing magic on their own like Harry’s wand did against Voldemort. So a wand with multiple wood types and core types could have split personalities or could otherwise be unstable or psychotic.
If you think about the lore of the elder wand, how it passes from one owner to the other. Like imprinting on its owner until its owner is bested. What if the imprinting stayed with Harry? So if a replica was made, and Harry came in contact with that wand. Could that imprinting return to the replica. Like a form of ancient magic. Just some food for thought.
Not just the ingredients though they'd need to be as talented and powerful as the Peverall brothers to actually recreate it or use a time turner to steal it from the past or force the Peverall brothers or brother that created it to make one for them too.
I think that even if a wand maker would have made a one to one replica it wouldn't be the same. As I also agree with Dumbledore that the brothers, either all 3 or only Antioch created the wand or the hallows all together. Maybe each brother donated to the strength of the wand, if that is the case this would mean that the elder wand was one of a kind.
HP Theory, I've actually thought about this a fair bit and not only do i believe you could, i think its possible to create a wand that far out classes it and it wouldnt even be a contest. This is a theory you might actually like. The question became why was the elder wand on a level above everything else, elder wood isnt some powerful ancient tree, its classified as an invasive weed. And thestral hair while cool in design, is from a magical creature so common that wizards use them as a common form of transport. This isnt even starting on the fact that olivander has tested thestral hair and deemed it not good enough for use. So just from its materials, there's no reason it should be so much more powerful than anything else. The only reason it is the most powerful wand, is because the story says it is But then hogwarts legacy came along and presented a new possibility, ancient magic. We know that wand wood works in the same way as humans in that within a whole group you could find only a small percentage of trees that are attuned to magic. We also know that there is an even rarer chance than that you can find a wizard that's instead tuned to ancient magic, which we know is in a class above regular magic in terms of power. So my theory is the elder wand was so powerful because it was made from wood that was tuned to ancient magic instead of regular magic. Once i had that thought, i started designing what could be the most powerful wand you could ever theoretically create 1. Wand wood As discussed we need to start with a wand made from wood tuned to ancient magic, but which wood. When focusing on the aspect of ancient magic and the fact we're selecting the VERY best materials theoretically possible, i thought the best wood would be the kind to come from a legendary tree from ancient history. Going through the list, one mythical tree stood out immediately, a wand crafted from a branch of the original tree of knowledge. From its name and reputation alone, if you could find that tree there wouldnt be another wood type more attuned to ancient magic than that 2. Wand core Next step is wand core, and there we hit another major problem, which core to pick. Thestral hair is powerful but unstable and deemed not good enough by olivander who we can assume is THE authority on the subject. Now olivander himself identified 3 core types as being better than any other; dragon, unicorn and phoenix. But again which type to pick cus each type has its strengths and attributes over the others Then i came across one of your own videos that gave me the revelation needed. In deathly hallows during the fight in malfoy manor, there is a moment when harry is holding all of the malfoy's wands in his hand at the same time, he cast a stunning spell with it and it "shot out like a cannon". You yourself made a video discussing how this proves it IS possible for a wizard to use multiple wands with different cores and woods at the same time, and that casting with multiple wands exponentially amplifies the spell. This is the key, why pick from the 3 supreme cores, when you could have all 3 cores at once. In hogwarts legacy there is 1 wand design that stood out to me, the spiral wand. As this wand shape is infact 3 "wand shafts" twisted together into a single tool. If you take that design and string a different core through each shaft, this will give you a new "tri-core" wand design which would exponentially amplify your magic just by itself But again, lets select the BEST materials possible. I didnt just want any old dragon/unicorn/phoenix cores, how could you select the BEST ones For the dragon core what's the best dragon. Hard to say from what's been seen onscreen but what about offscreen? I theorise that just about any creature from mythology is up for grabs as being a creature in the wizarding world, that isnt too much of a stretch to say. So the best dragon i would say would probably be an eastern dragon. Western dragons are wild animals and giant pests, but in mythology eastern dragons are seen as gods or nature spirits. They can speak, are highly intelligent and most interestingly have the ability to control the elements. In wizarding world lore, i translate this as having the natural ability to perform elemental magic at will. A heart string from this kind of dragon would out class all others, more powerful and would have a natural affinity/boost to elemental magic. But you cant just kill an eastern dragon and expect the core to choose you, you should earn the dragon's respect and defeat it in honest combat to ensure the core doesnt reject you For the unicorn hair i question, what's the upgrade to a unicorn in mythology. That would be a winged unicorn, which fun fact is actually known as an alicorn. This would be possible in harry potter lore as winged horses cannonically exist, so its not a stretch to see the breeds mixing to create what would essentially be seen as a living angel of the magical creatures. I did consider a crossbreed of unicorn and thestral but honestly god knows what that'd create, probably a creature with entirely different effects. I also considered replacing this with a qilin hair from fantastic beasts as qilin's are sometimes called "eastern unicorns", but again i'm not sure if that'd be diverging too much from the unicorns properties. Either of these though would be a suitable upgrade from regular unicorn hair, but ofcourse to ensure it doesnt reject you, the creature should offer the hair itself to you in gratitude for something you did for it Finally the phoenix feather, at first i thought the thunderbird would be a cool upgrade as its related to the phoenix and just looks way bigger and more powerful. But then i learnt that thunderbird is a standard core used in ilvermorny. Although stated to have similar properties to phoenix and having a natural affinity to transfiguration magic, i guess olivander still deems phoenix as the more versatile. So i questioned, what if you had a theoretical crossbreed between a phoenix and thunderbird to blend their properties, creating essentially a much larger phoenix type. Something which in my head canon i've been calling the "firebolt phoenix" in reference to harry's broom name. A feather from a phoenix like that, especially if it was a phoenix you've cared for since it first hatched, that would ensure a feather with the greatest loyalty to you and give a boost to transfiguration So these are my 3 cores; heart string from an eastern dragon, tail hair from an alicorn and feather from a thunderbird/phoenix cross breed, twisted together in a spiral tri-core wand design. From this you could see how the core's would work together in unison. The dragon core would provide the power, the alicorn core would provide the control and consistency, and the phoenix core would give the spell shape and versatility. A normal wand would probably burn up from this kind of power coursing through it, but the ancient magic wood its made from should be able to handle this level power - Post too long, continued in replies -
- Part 2 of theory - 3. Wand handle Hogwarts legacy introduced wand handles as a thing so again i thought, what's the best you could get. Immediately i thought of a handle made from goblin silver. This would impart 2 important effects. Firstly goblin silver rejects any negative effects imparted to it, which means a handle made from this should be immune from the disarming charm which ofcourse is very practical. Secondly goblin silver absorbs any positive effects imparted to it, so the question becomes what is the best potion or material to "stock up" the silver with? Basilisk venom is too situational to be useful, and potions boosting magic arnt needed cus the wand already doesnt lack for power. What i settled on instead is felix felicis. In theory, if you polished the silver with liquid luck it would permanently have an added luck factor for whoever wields it. This i believe would be far more beneficial in the long run than any other potion the silver could absorb Plus the best part, despite goblin tradition saying they would try to take the wand back after your death, they cant because of the fact it IS a wand. Goblin's cant even pick up a wand without causing an international incident, let alone a wand like this one. They wouldnt dare try to claim this wand handle back as it would probably spark a full scale wizard world war. And if all else fails, just put the same enchantment gryffindor's sword has to always summon it back to its chosen wielder But even further than that, i wanted something cool for the pommel of the wand handle with a final effect. I thought of magic gemstones and such and one springs to mind right away, that being the philosopher's stone. Now while this would be an excellent choice, i still think its too situational to be useful. All the stone seems to do is create the elixir of life and transmute gold, and its unclear if the stone gets used up doing this or not. Now this might be delving far more into fan theory territory but i instead started looking more into pensives and how in the movie they seem to be made from a magical metal. What if you could break down the enchantment used to create the pensive and imbue the goblin silver with a variation of it? Not enough to enter memories, but to store the memories of every spell and skill you've learnt while wielding the wand in a miniature goblin repository (like from hogwarts legacy but tiny) on the pommel? The effect of this would be everything you've ever learnt would always be at your fingertips, and with the phoenix core having the added known effect of casting on its own in certain situations, imagine if said core started casting (in conjuncture with the other 2 cores) while having a full record of every spell you've ever learnt on hand. Then there's the added factor of imagine if this wand gets passed down and used throughout the generations, each wielder adding their own memories and experiences to the repository of knowledge. That i feel would be a fitting final device to finish this wand. But hey, if that's too fan fiction for you, philosophers stone is always a backup choice So all in all you've got a wand made from a branch of the tree of knowledge, attuned to probably the most ancient magic of all. The cores of an eastern dragon, alicorn and theoretical firebolt phoenix in a tri-core wand design. Held together with a goblin silver handle imbued with liquid luck and topped off with a repository of memories derived from the pensive enchantment (or philosophers stone if you otherwise wish). Incase you didnt notice, in total thats 7 different kinds of magic going into the construction of this theoretical wand, which means it gets an ADDED boost from the whole arithmancy theory of magic around the number 7 Can you see why i said this theoretical wand could curb stomp the elder wand?
*Can* it be recreated? Yes. By a wizard as skilled as the original Peverell brother, which they probably don't have. We do have at least some evidence that the Hallows are more powerful than standard items - Harry's Cloak. In the books they call it "perfect" and hasn't faded over how many hundreds of years? The Stone is apparently unique, and so may or may not be powerful for its kind, or may be supremely tricky to make, or just odd enough that no one thinks to try and make one. The wand is the one that there's both plenty of similar items out there and no hard evidence of being stronger than others like it. But I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt, considering the other two Hallows' natures.
A muggle could combine ingredients, but it wouldn't be magical. There is a step not mentioned in the books that converts a wooden stick into a magical object. A wand maker could combine the same ingredients to make a wand, but it might not be as powerful. There might be something in the make a stick magical procedure that the brothers did differently. I wonder if wands draw off of an energy source and Death has his own energy source that is different. The make a stick magical procedure may involve connecting the wand to a magical energy source.
I personally think all the hallows were made by the brothers, all can be remade with relative easy, but albeit, powerful magic. The one I'm most interested in is the stone. We know alot about the wand and cloak, but almost nothing about the stone other than what it does. The wand and cloak appear frequently in the books and movies, but the stone on the other hand, hardly at all. What kind of stone, what kind of enchantments may have been on it, etc
It can be recreated but it's knowledge will be that of a brand new wand not the wand from legend. Remember, the wand chooses the wizard and both form a symbiotic relationship learning from each other. The Elder Wand was extremely powerful because it had served so many wizards it learned from in it's long history.
now that is an interesting plot for a new Harry Potter movie ... remember he threw it off the bridge thingy ... what if magically it has been reforged / remade
I think it’s very possible to remake the elder wand as well as the other hallows some theorize that the resurrection stone was fashioned from the veil inside the ministry and the invisibility cloak is not the only one in the Harry Potter universe so theoretically it is possible to remake the hallows or at the very least the elder wand cause in the end they are just magical artifacts
I wonder if a wand could be repaired if the resin native to that specific tree/material were applied, because the resin in nature is the essence of that said tree/material so shouldn't it in theory still hold magical properties and through its own adhesive properties act as a binding agent for the wand itself and by extension an insulator for the core? because like take hagrids wand being turned into the umbrella for example, I mean sure, it's still not as good as a standard wand, but I mean it still holds magical properties and can even perform some minor spells, but that's just as an umbrella, if you took the essence of the wand itself and used that to repair it, I don't see how it couldn't in theory restore it at least close to its original state.
The wand absorbs magic and knowledge from its user. This wand just happened to be a quick learner and absorber of a powerful wizard. It allows users to have their potential maximized and the add on of the previous user’s magic. Usually, wands were burned with the wizard after they died. The elder wand wasn’t, and was instead passed to various wizards through combat. Since the wand had many users, it grew stronger over time, compounding its ability to make a user stronger. Take any wand, and it would do the same, albeit not as effective as a wand that brings out the user’s full potential.
The Elder Wand isn't the only unique wand. Yes it is powerful but wandlore has proven that can there can be wands created to perform similar feats. Salazar Slytherin wand of Snakewood and Basilisk horn core was able to perform powerful magic which also allowed the user (who can only be of his family line) to put the wand in rest mode. Now its not stated if a user who disarms the wand will earn its ownership or loyalty but if the wand is put to sleep it cannot work until it is undone. So by that logic the first Peverell brother Antioch Peverell must have found a way to subtract the thestral core within the wand to allow it to fuse with it. Then he magically enchanted it and now its stated to be legendary yet beatable. Its only a matter of time before another brilliant wizard replicates it or creates a wand more stronger.
they might be able to recreate it but i think it will be weaker then the one in the book. invicibility cloaks do exists other than the one harry owns, but those have some flaws like the charm starting to fail over time or growing weaker, the cloaks getting damaged from spells etc. the one harry owns is the only one known to not have those issues. moodeye for instance mention in the 5th book that he have two cloaks and one is better than the other. (He complains that a phonix order member that is missing or sentenced to azkaban, cant remember which one, went missing while borrowing and using the better cloak) so its clearly possible to recreate the cloak and from the interaction from the first book it apears that it is a general design for the cloaks since ron recogniced what it was right away when he first spotted it while opening pressents during chrismas. so i defeitly think its possible to recreate a wand made with elder wood and the hair from creature in question, but it will be quite hard and it will most likely not be on the power of the original item.
A theory on The Elder Wand and why it is more powerful than any other wand... Since wands and wizards can gain a sort of symbiosis, When it was first created, The Elder Wand was no more powerful than any other wand. However, as it got passed from one powerful wizard to another, it added a smidgen of each wizard's power to its own. Over time, it became more powerful than any wizard holding it. So if you created a "Younger Wand", it could eventually be as powerful as its Elder brother, but it would be at least a millenium. (Not a theory I subscribe to, but it popped in my head and I wanted to share.)
It would be easy for the right wand maker to replicate it but they likely wouldn't want to. The mere association with the want of legend would probably scare almost anybody away from it.
It is a beautiful story, I would like to believe it’s true, we’ve already had Sequels that didn’t abuse the legend of The Elder Wand, so I feel it should be left broken and unable to be recreated.
I have question- before the prophecy related to Harry, Dumbeldore had the Elder wand, the resurrection stone, and the invisibility cloak then why he couldn't defeat Voldemort? The resurrection stone - he gave to Harry as shown in part 8 Cloak- given to Harry in 1st part Didn't he had the resurrection stone before! If he had all the deathly hallows then no one should have been more powerful than Dumbledore.
Yes, you probably could recreate it, but it would be difficult. According to the fairytale, the brothers came across death after going across a river. While this is part is definitely fake, there likely is truth contained in it. It was centuries ago so it’s possible that they saw a dead person or a person dying. This led to them being able to see thestrals and so they would have able to kill thestrals and use them to make the deathly hallows. Edit, someone suggested that death was the thestral.
This makes me wonder about Voldemort's prowess that he pursued the most powerful want, but it was something created by someone else, not created by himself.
You can do, and it is very tricky, complicated and takes a lot of power and you have to do it during the full moon because of it's power will be at it's strongest and yes, you need to be very skilled a creating wands in the first place. It isn't a thing for anyone can do. Okay. So you will need Eldertree wood, you will need threstal tail hair (hopefully you seen death to see them). You will need to infuse them together with a binding spell, combine it with rare materials, wizard power, magic, protective elements, powerful charms, unique herbs, zinc, water and gold, that will help make it solid, stable, flexible. Create a unique core with birtch, bronze and tin. Each time you do do these steps will alwas be on the full moon....and somehow, you have to connect it to death and the afterlife (that's another tricky one). Then, you recite some poem. ''By the light of the moon and the ancient tree, Craft now a wand that shall let magic be. With elder wood strong and Thestral hair hidden, Bind them with spells, where secrets are bidden. Let the wand's power through the ages transcend, A new Elder Wand, may its magic never end.'' It should be done. I must say, the work that goes on Mugglenet lore is pretty interesting.
What if a wandmaker soaked the wood for a wand in a mix of his own blood and unicorn blood then bathed the thestral tailhair in felix felices and his own blood before making the wand?
JK. rowling has confirmed that the deathly hallows were made by the 3 brothers and the death thing was simply a spin on the tale to give it a fantisaful spin to the story as bards usually do back in the middle ages
Should we not ask just about the Elder wand but also the two other Deathly Hallows and how all three came to be? Yes, perhaps products of very proficient wizards, but then how were they created: the Invisibility Cloak and the stone? Is there enough knowledge as there is with the Elder Wand to recreate either of them? If not, then does the story involving Death personified have more credibility?
Seeing how the Elder Wand has been studied by the likes of Gregorovitch and it yet has to be recreated despite it is apparently known that it is made of Elder Wood and has a Thestral Tail Hair as its core, it might not be possible to recreate it. And I think the cause of this is the Elder Wand itself. A temperamental wand like the Elder Wand probably wouldn't want a copy of itself and seeing why it was created, the same might go for his creator. And with how powerful the wand actually is, I do think it possible that Antioch casted a curse with it, making it impossible for future wand makers to combine Elder Wood and Thestral hair into a similar wand. None shall be allowed to create a rival to his wand.
When death created the elder wand he infused his essence into the wand. That’s my theory and that’s why I think the elder wand of legend is unbeatable. But as you stated though there will never be another elder wand like that one.
I mean given that it was Death who made the wand, why would that make it exclusive to himself? Like what about it would make it only able to created by him?
I think the Wand is man-made and could be recreated, but it may be that there was something special involved with its making that makes it so powerful beyond just the materials and nobody knows exactly what that is and it could take a long time to stumble on it again. We don't really know the specifics about how normal wands are made, and there's clearly more to it than just the materials, otherwise all things being equal a simple repair spell should be able to fix a broken wand.
Can a worthy duplicate be made sure. At least I think it can be because we know enough about wand lore to do so. But as far as another "one"..no, I don't think because even a worthy duplicate would most likely choose another kind of wizard because that much has always been clear.. The wand chooses the wizard
I don't think you could recreate the Elder wand. You could make a wand with all the right materials and flexibility, but consider Harry's wand: it sharing a core with Tom's wand created a special extra feature of the two wands than no other wands had. The source and context of the Phoenix feathers were as important as whether or not the feathers were just any old Phoenix. It seems to me that, giving the fact that the Elder Wand was indeed the most powerful, there is something lost in the telling of the story that without knowing what the variables are, we would only succeed in making a replica.
The Elder wand didnt have a core. Do all wizard/witch made wands have cores? To me, the core is what makes the wand sentient as that part came from a magical creature.
Actually the wand did have a core, thestral hair. All of the items were made from thestrals, which is why they are so powerful. The Cloak last forever since only those who seen death can see thestrals. Harry’s ancestor must’ve adjusted the skin somehow. The Wand is powerful because not many people would be able to acquire Thestrals hair. The Stone can bring back the dead, possibly because Thestrals are already connected to death somehow. Perhaps the person brought back is a death that they witnessed.
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3rd option that they met someone that was powerful and dark and that they with its help made the 3 deathly hollows. example a dark merchant or Gurdian
I believe the deathly hallows are only known because of their involvement with death. The Elder wand with its deathly creation to its bloody trail in history. I believe the creator of the three hallows could have been a very gifted magician who was bested in a bet and/or robbed by the three brother hence the death coming back and killing the eldest brother in the night with a knife because he didn’t have a wand to do so.
I am a maker of wands myself and made The Elder Wand, many in fact lol, and had one that was broken. So in my creative way, set forth in making, remaking, the broken Elder Wand. Came up with a backstory of some powerful wizard finding the broken Elder Wand and somehow repairing the wand and in doing so it released a dark energy thus creating The Dark Elder Wand. It is black in color, has one less knob up the shaft and has a burnt look in the white part with the runes. It is quite cool looking and my own take on a Potterverse legend lol.
I still say The Peverils made the three hallows and The Tale of The Three Brothers was inspired by how each of them died. One from Violence, One from Heartbreak, and One from Old Age. But that the tale as a whole is a fictitious cautionary story for anyone who may follow in their footsteps.
I think what happened is that Death from the story was actually just a thestral, the brothers killed it, harvested the materials and used them to make the Hallows
That would mean that people who show someone die would be able to see the cloak. And there would be way more cloaks
@@calamitous2 there are other attempts at cloaks
@@calamitous2 That could just be explained by the cloak being difficult to make. It's mentioned a few times that invisibility cloaks are rare, which implies that there are more than one out there, but they are hard to create. It would make sense that, even it's made from a Threstral (Perhaps the cloak is made from Thestral skin) that it would be extremely hard to make. We know the Elder Wand's core is Thestral tail feather, so it's not hard to imagine "death" in the story is just symbolism for a Thestral. Like I said earlier, the cloak could be made of Thestral skin, and the Resurrection Stone could be like a Bezoar, but in Thestrals (A bezoar in the HP universe is a stone found in the stomach of goats, and it can be effective against poisons)
Could be. The wand's core is thestral tail feather. The cloak could be made of thestral skin, and the resurrection stone could be like a Bezoar, but in Thestrals.
@@jonnyb.animationstutorials7119dont know where it was said invisibility cloaks are rare since we see so many people having one throughout the series, but as far as Harry’s cloak goes it can’t be made from thestral since then anyone who can see a thestral would be able to see it. And one thing that was mentioned early on is that invisibility cloaks wear out over time, either the charms/magic fading or from spell damage. Ron commented how Harry’s still working perfectly even though it was so old is not normal.
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It seems odd to me that no one ever tried to make a thestral core wand except one master wand maker. As with most things in the universe, there's just not enough information on why things are special to guess about it. It's just presented as high magic, and that's that.
With the right materials a skilled wand maker could fashion an elder wand. But would such a wand be capable of the incredible magic that the elder wand is able to perform? I’m not so certain.
While the elder wand is powerful, deadly, and produces results beyond what is generally thought possible of magic. But are these amazing things possible because of the wand’s construction and the materials it is made from? Or is its power a result of the wand passing from the hand of one powerful warlock to another for centuries?
“The wand learning from the wizard, the wizard from the wand.”-Ollivander
I believe a wand made of elder becomes more powerful over time
To quote Kaos Theory expert Ian Malcolm "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." In this case magic users instead of scientists, and while they might be able to recreate it, they really shouldn't! Harry's decision to destroy the Elder Wand in the last movie was the better choice!
You do realize that Harry breaking The Elder Wand is just in the movie right? In the book after The Battle Of Hogwarts he uses The Elder Wand to fix his original wand and returned The Elder Wand back to Dumbledore's grave.
@@connerlackey3952yes, that is why I said his decision in the last movie (as opposed to his decision in the last book) was the better choice!
@@scottmackenzie62 that's you're opinion and you are entitled to it but I think Harry's decision in the book is better then his decision in the movie is and that is my opinion.
@@connerlackey3952 the elder wand was more sentient than others. who knows? it might mend itself. it is a bit like the One Ring in LOTR if you think about it.
If the wizard that murdered Antioch in his sleep was death in disguise, then how did anybody ever win it from him?
beautiful comment!
Antioch never had the intention to lose the wand. For a wizard to kill or beat the owner of the elder wand, it must be against the owner will. So Death killing him still won the wand allegiance but you ask a great question as to how another wizard won it from death. It should be remembered the story is dramatized. Its not really Death in disguise, its another wizard acting on the intention to murder. We don't know who the wizard is that killed him but what we do know is that after Antioch death Emeric the Evil had the wand. So its likely he killed him or Emeric killed the wizard that murdered Antioch.
"Death in disguise" could also imply that someone was influenced by Death to carry out the deed, as Death whispered promises of wealth and power like the devil on his shoulder
I don't think it's literal. That wizard brought death with him as in killing Antioch just so he could personally own the wand.
I still think Harry not fixing his broken wand and then snapping the elder wand at the end of the movie is one of the biggest transgressions compared to the books.
The more pressing question is, can they ever unmake "Harry Potter and the Cursed Child?"
😂😂😂 I just pretend it doesn't exist
It’s like sarin gas, once it’s made there is no putting the genie back in the lamp.
Harry Potter and the Cursed Child? What is that, that some fan fiction or something never heard of it
Sure, I just ignored it when writing fan-fiction.
@@Tracer_Sweat It is a screen play, and Rolling did have something to do with it. I enjoyed reading (just once). The play is rather old now so it is not something new.
If liquid luck can be brewed then its very possible to recreate the Elder Wand and alternative versions of Horcruxes
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it took liquid luck to make the thing. One dose to gather the materials, and another to craft the wand.
One thing I have curious about since I read my 1st harry potter book is how do the wand makers get the core into the wand? Does Ollivander have a super long and thin drill bit on a drill press? Have the wands been sliced in half length-wise and a little bit chiselled out? Does he slice the tip off and stuff a unicorn hair into it and reseal the end? Such an important and earth-shattering question. I know i have too much time on my hands but I can't be the only muggle who has pondered this dilemma. Any answers to my query?
I think they just use a form of transfiguration to weave the wood around the core. So magic
It must go into the handle n run through the entirety of the wand based on the broken wand, Harry's wand in deathly hollows..the book stated that it was held together only by the Phoenix feathers when it was split in half. They can't put it in the tip..n they probably use magic to seal the hole once it's drilled into the wood..then they most likely stain amd push it to finish it.
The story of the 3 Brothers is a story of the muggles and magic. If they choose the path of Grindlewald and Voldemort, coveting power, there will only be loss and death. If they choose the path of longing to be together, they would enjoy it for awhile, but ultimately it will lead to heartbreak and disappointment. However, if they choose the path of secrecy, they would live long lives and great death in their own time.
They need to find a wizard who’s mother was a hamster and who’s father smelled of elderberries. Then they can make a new elder wand.
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You could make the exact same wand with the exact same materials, but you can’t replicate the immense power of the original wand.
ive always thought it weird that what it was made of was well known but nobody (dark witch/wizards come to mind) never tryed making a lesser version of the elder wand. it would still be more powerful than most
@@thedailyracecar2064it is a bit weird
@@thedailyracecar2064someone did. Gregorovitch possessed, and was duplicating the qualities of the elder wand. How well he succeeded in doing so hasn’t been discussed.
You would also have to factor in the age of the Elder wood. Say if the elder wands wood is 1 million years old it would be very hard to replicate
@@teddyhh9947 interesting
i think the brothers created the hollows but to recreate the elder wand might be very difficult make one yes but i think the power of the wand came from centuries of powerful wizards using the wand to quote Olivander the wizard leans from the wand and the wand learns from the wizard. I think you would need time and powerful wizards using the wand to recreate the elder wands power.
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EXACTLY
So what happens if a wizard infuses their blood in the wand making process?
I imagine it will never be used against them.
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maybe that's what they did with the elder wand and that's what makes it so powerful?
I have always thought of this idea. It's like placing a part of you literally with your wand to bond with it forever.
It can't be destroyed but will reform. It was created by death itself after all.
Wete Dumbledore's glasses a powerful magical item that allowed him to see through the invisibility cloak, perhaps the same enchantment that was on Moody's eye.
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I think you're quite correct on all counts. Yes, a skilled wand maker could indeed recreate the elder wand...or at least _an_ elder wand. But what kind of witch or wizard could indeed master it would be quite another thing "The wand chooses the wizard" after all.
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I don't think it would be that difficult to create another elder wand for a proficient crafts person. The tree that the Elder wand came from, an Elder tree, is not rare at all. They're actually quite common. Common as weeds. Its use is what's rare. I'm inclined to think that the wood simply isn't a good wand wood and owing to its reputation few wand makers will bother with it.
Also not many trees produced magic just the same as not many humans had magic. it could be that very, very few elder trees with magic did produce wand quality wood. An elder wand would have needed to have been made from lumber not branches as it is hollow and as someone suspected in the comments usually it is live wood / wood cut and cured from a living tree whereas Elder Wand wood may have come from a long dead tree. It is intriguing none the less to think about.
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what if the hallows were made by wizards and goblins working together. That would explain why no other wizard made items even came close to the capabilities of the hallows.
I feel like the important elements were more the tragic, mythic elements in their construction and a fate that they were intended to be used in, more than particularly gifted craftsmen.
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Haven’t watched the video but the answer is yes… short explanation! The wand was either 1 actually created by Death him/it self and thus death can just create it once more if he wishes or 2. The wand was created by the 3 brothers and then that would mean a “new” elder wand could technically be created again since it already was by some powerful wizard. Either way the wand technically can be recreated yes. Thx for watching
You left out an important aspect. Ollivander told Harry that the wand chooses the wizard, and the wizard and the wand go on a journey together, they learn from each other. So even if a talented wandmaker created a replica of the Elder Wand, this new wand wouldn't have the "experience" or "memory" of centuries of great magic performed with it that the Elder Wand has.
True, but the wand didn't have that memory of incredible power when Antioch got it, either. He just ran around and started blasting lol.
@@Zac_Frost Yeah, but Antioch was a powerful wizard who created a potent wand. Voldemort also did exceptional magic with Lucius Malfoy's mediocre wand so of course there are more variables. That's why I said "left out", that doesn't mean that all the others are not true. :)
"We?" was such a beautiful piece of dialogue to complement why Harry destroyed it. Ron instantly saw it not as Harry's, but also as his. You could see this being the start of a future power struggle, as absolute power corrupts absolutely.
6:13 that exsplains part of why voldemort couldnt use it.
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Fun fact, the Invisibility Cloak is actually not even magical at all! Rather, it is the molted skin of a Changewing Dragon, a specie of which spits acid rather than fire, can turn invisible against anything that isn’t itself invisible, (i.e. it couldn’t turn invisible when flying far from anything that itself is visible such as air), and the dragon itself possesses no magical properties of any kind. That’s right, you can’t use a dragon heartstring from a Changewing in a wand, it simply won’t work.
Anyways, when a Changewing molts, it sheds its skin, like any other reptile, and those naturally shed skins are quite literally perfect invisibility cloaks just laying there on the ground for the taking. In fact, although the Changewing’s scales are said to be quite soft, properly cured and treated, (not to mention enchanted in this case), these cloaks can indeed last an immensely long time. Even without proper preservation techniques, the cloaks made of naturally shed Changewing skins will still last much longer than traditional charmed cloth or demiguise pelts.
So there, cloak mystery solved, sounds like Mr. Prevell was quite the skilled leather worker for his time, being able to not only find a naturally shed Changewing skin, but also to properly tan, treat, cure, and otherwise magically preserve the shed skin.
Note: Killing and skinning a Changewing does not result in a cloak, as the skin used must by naturally shed by a Changewing while it is still alive. So don’t do Dragon Hunting kids.
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Another Elder Wand could be created, I think, but it wouldn't be exactly the same. Maybe it would be more flexible, but have less power, or perhaps be even more powerful, but also a lot harder to master.
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The Stone in the first movie, whatever you prefer to call it, is/may even be on a level higher than any individual piece of the deathly Hallows, it was made by regular everyday wizards.
I was literally thinking about the Philosopher's Stone during this video and how it is much more impressive than the Deathly Hallows, in my opinion.
@@j-rey- to me , its more impressive than any 1 piece by itself, not so much the entirety of the Hallows.
@@j-rey-dumbledore helped Nicholas create the philosophers stone and Dumbledore is no regular wizard and we dont know Nicholas's expertise or level.
@@Jason_L10 its still 2 wizards, and not some fairy tale including the literal avatar of death being its creator. We didn't mean that neither of them are amazing wizards, but in all fairness, they are both still just normal wizards who are just the best normal wizards.
@@joemurray2293 it’s very possible that the stone was only able to be fashioned after Dumbledore came into possession of the elder wand.
What if Harrys wand became the new elder wand when he repaired his?
Why would it?
@@untitled6391 idk magic
@@untitled6391it’s the brother wand of the elder wand so yes could be olivander said it
@Scf337 no its not the brother wand of the elder wand. It's the brother wand of voldemorts wand, the one he used before be got the elder wand.
@@_Volt_gaming I see
I think what makes this wand so powerful is probably the fact it’s thestral’s core. Death itself. Every owner who dies it absorbs its essence. Like a warlock wand.
I had a thought that if fantastic beasts franchise had continued than maybe someone using the super time turner from the “eight book” would go back in time get the old wand from Grindelwald and use it to repair the future wand.
"Clusters of elderberriers" didn't mean anything to me when i was a reader but when i saw the wand on screen, I thought it was supposed to resemble bones and skeletal joints.
Let us look at this just as logically as Death did. The brother asked for an unbeatable WAND, NOTHING was ever said about the Wizard wielding it. Well, the wand DID remain undefeated so it did exactly what was asked for. The Wizards, not so much.
You would also have to factor in the age of the elder wood and maturity of the thestral. Also the elder wands shape.
Might also be that the elder wand becomes more powerful through sacrifice and its current strength is due to the deaths its absorbed in its proximity
Maybe the brothers did meat death in a metaphorical sense. They witnessed the death of someone, maybe they also had a near-death experience what they survived but others didn't. So this witnessing of death could have gifted them with the ability to see thesrals so they were able to experiment with the thestral's hair and other parts.
It's not just the wand, but the Deathly Hallows. Their associated themes are incredibly mythic. I feel like something greater had to have some influence in their creation, circumstances that can't be replicated by just a powerful and talented wandmaker.
I feel like the next truly epic wand to emerge in that setting would not be death themed, no elder wood or thestral hair.
Even if it could be recreated, it would be extremely difficult.
A renowned wand maker such as Gregorovitch had it for many years yet couldn’t duplicate its abilities.
Which begs the question......if Voldemort was so very powerful and clever, why couldn't he have made his own elder wand?
Where, exactly does the hair from a thestral come from? On the all leather skinned bat horse? Even their rat like tails are just skin.
Pubic hair.
Or nostril hair.
3:54 personally I think the film version was better in this aspect.
Using time turners, someone could permanently repair the elder wand by repairing it first with a normal wand for one spell, then go back in time and use the elder wand to cast reparo on itself.
Possible to recreate or something similar, but the exact method of how to make it maybe another step in the mystery behind the Elder Wand, just because i have the materials,how it works and does doesnt mean i know how to make Gun for example . So Death or Eldest Brother used some special craftingmethods to make it that are lost to time. If Wandmaker had the Elder Wand and break it open to better understand how it was made maybe then it could be reacreated but if not the Unique Elder Wand is gone.
An often overlooked bit of info that could likely be assumed as part of the creation process and if true the key piece/ingredient to the recipe is the use of Ancient Magic. I think that the Hallows were objects of outstanding power created with ancient magic.
Which now makes me wonder if Dumbledore discovered a way to tap into ancient magic to create the Deluminator, which is a unique device of his own design.
Would love to get a video about the Resurrection stone.
In the book the wand still exists it was broken in the movies and with the TV show coming out it is not likely that it will be broken on the TV show if they do stay true to the books like they said they would.
The elder wand also probably gained power from either the owner causing death of dying through magical means while in possession of the wand.
I think in the books its mentioned that if the owner dies a peaceful natural death the wand would lose its power.
There are two coaligning facts that I'd like to put forward. The first is that wands were described as "learning" certain spells from their owners, therefore making it easier for, let's say, the Elder Wand to learn spells related to death and destruction.
Something else that surfaces in the world of Harry Potter is intent. A witch or wizard has to want the spell to succeed, to actually know it will succeed, in order to produce consistent results when casting spells. As we learn later on, the verbal component isn't necessary at all, and successful practitioners can simply think of the appropriate incantation in order to cast a spell, charm, hex or curse. This requires focus, intention, and most of all belief.
That last one, belief, is most important for my argument. If a witch or wizard believes that they possess the most powerful wand in existence, a wand that has already learned how to deliver death and destruction at the hands of previous owners, then that combination will yield an unprecedented level of power. Simply because the weilder believes it will happen. J.K. Rowling has shown us time and time again that doubt is the biggest hinderence in her world, and that complete focus and belief is the true strength of an individual. The fact that someone allegedly has the most powerful wand in existence is simply a mind game, which alters the perceptions of others when they have to stand against it
it should be possible for a crafty wand maker to create another elder(wood) wand. it might be a difficult task with many possibilities to fail, but it should not be impossible.
and even if the new elder(wood) wand comes out to be weaker than the original one, it doesn´t really prove the origin of the OG one as Death´s creation. it would only show that the creator of the new wand wasn´t that capable and powerful as the creator of the old one. and on top of that, i assume even the original elder wand could only bring you so far. it might make your spells stronger and more powerful, but only a top notch sorcerer should be able to unleash and use the wands full potentuial - which would go for the reproduction like for the OG wand. but in the end, most people will think of an alder wand just as a myth, not willing to consider it´s recreation at all.
Somehow I wonder if you couldn’t create a wand with multiple wand woods or wand cores. I mean it’s not impossible to use multiple wood types or to put in multiple cores. Of corse they could just not work, but they could also be extraordinarily powerful. The most interesting option could also be that a wand with multiple wood types and/or core types could be somewhat mental. I mean wands do have some sort of own will like choosing their wizard/witch or sometimes doing magic on their own like Harry’s wand did against Voldemort. So a wand with multiple wood types and core types could have split personalities or could otherwise be unstable or psychotic.
If you think about the lore of the elder wand, how it passes from one owner to the other. Like imprinting on its owner until its owner is bested. What if the imprinting stayed with Harry? So if a replica was made, and Harry came in contact with that wand. Could that imprinting return to the replica. Like a form of ancient magic. Just some food for thought.
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Not just the ingredients though they'd need to be as talented and powerful as the Peverall brothers to actually recreate it or use a time turner to steal it from the past or force the Peverall brothers or brother that created it to make one for them too.
I think that even if a wand maker would have made a one to one replica it wouldn't be the same. As I also agree with Dumbledore that the brothers, either all 3 or only Antioch created the wand or the hallows all together. Maybe each brother donated to the strength of the wand, if that is the case this would mean that the elder wand was one of a kind.
That's interesting, I never knew the elder wand had a thestral core :O
HP Theory, I've actually thought about this a fair bit and not only do i believe you could, i think its possible to create a wand that far out classes it and it wouldnt even be a contest. This is a theory you might actually like. The question became why was the elder wand on a level above everything else, elder wood isnt some powerful ancient tree, its classified as an invasive weed. And thestral hair while cool in design, is from a magical creature so common that wizards use them as a common form of transport. This isnt even starting on the fact that olivander has tested thestral hair and deemed it not good enough for use. So just from its materials, there's no reason it should be so much more powerful than anything else. The only reason it is the most powerful wand, is because the story says it is
But then hogwarts legacy came along and presented a new possibility, ancient magic. We know that wand wood works in the same way as humans in that within a whole group you could find only a small percentage of trees that are attuned to magic. We also know that there is an even rarer chance than that you can find a wizard that's instead tuned to ancient magic, which we know is in a class above regular magic in terms of power. So my theory is the elder wand was so powerful because it was made from wood that was tuned to ancient magic instead of regular magic. Once i had that thought, i started designing what could be the most powerful wand you could ever theoretically create
1. Wand wood
As discussed we need to start with a wand made from wood tuned to ancient magic, but which wood. When focusing on the aspect of ancient magic and the fact we're selecting the VERY best materials theoretically possible, i thought the best wood would be the kind to come from a legendary tree from ancient history. Going through the list, one mythical tree stood out immediately, a wand crafted from a branch of the original tree of knowledge. From its name and reputation alone, if you could find that tree there wouldnt be another wood type more attuned to ancient magic than that
2. Wand core
Next step is wand core, and there we hit another major problem, which core to pick. Thestral hair is powerful but unstable and deemed not good enough by olivander who we can assume is THE authority on the subject. Now olivander himself identified 3 core types as being better than any other; dragon, unicorn and phoenix. But again which type to pick cus each type has its strengths and attributes over the others
Then i came across one of your own videos that gave me the revelation needed. In deathly hallows during the fight in malfoy manor, there is a moment when harry is holding all of the malfoy's wands in his hand at the same time, he cast a stunning spell with it and it "shot out like a cannon". You yourself made a video discussing how this proves it IS possible for a wizard to use multiple wands with different cores and woods at the same time, and that casting with multiple wands exponentially amplifies the spell. This is the key, why pick from the 3 supreme cores, when you could have all 3 cores at once. In hogwarts legacy there is 1 wand design that stood out to me, the spiral wand. As this wand shape is infact 3 "wand shafts" twisted together into a single tool. If you take that design and string a different core through each shaft, this will give you a new "tri-core" wand design which would exponentially amplify your magic just by itself
But again, lets select the BEST materials possible. I didnt just want any old dragon/unicorn/phoenix cores, how could you select the BEST ones
For the dragon core what's the best dragon. Hard to say from what's been seen onscreen but what about offscreen? I theorise that just about any creature from mythology is up for grabs as being a creature in the wizarding world, that isnt too much of a stretch to say. So the best dragon i would say would probably be an eastern dragon. Western dragons are wild animals and giant pests, but in mythology eastern dragons are seen as gods or nature spirits. They can speak, are highly intelligent and most interestingly have the ability to control the elements. In wizarding world lore, i translate this as having the natural ability to perform elemental magic at will. A heart string from this kind of dragon would out class all others, more powerful and would have a natural affinity/boost to elemental magic. But you cant just kill an eastern dragon and expect the core to choose you, you should earn the dragon's respect and defeat it in honest combat to ensure the core doesnt reject you
For the unicorn hair i question, what's the upgrade to a unicorn in mythology. That would be a winged unicorn, which fun fact is actually known as an alicorn. This would be possible in harry potter lore as winged horses cannonically exist, so its not a stretch to see the breeds mixing to create what would essentially be seen as a living angel of the magical creatures. I did consider a crossbreed of unicorn and thestral but honestly god knows what that'd create, probably a creature with entirely different effects. I also considered replacing this with a qilin hair from fantastic beasts as qilin's are sometimes called "eastern unicorns", but again i'm not sure if that'd be diverging too much from the unicorns properties. Either of these though would be a suitable upgrade from regular unicorn hair, but ofcourse to ensure it doesnt reject you, the creature should offer the hair itself to you in gratitude for something you did for it
Finally the phoenix feather, at first i thought the thunderbird would be a cool upgrade as its related to the phoenix and just looks way bigger and more powerful. But then i learnt that thunderbird is a standard core used in ilvermorny. Although stated to have similar properties to phoenix and having a natural affinity to transfiguration magic, i guess olivander still deems phoenix as the more versatile. So i questioned, what if you had a theoretical crossbreed between a phoenix and thunderbird to blend their properties, creating essentially a much larger phoenix type. Something which in my head canon i've been calling the "firebolt phoenix" in reference to harry's broom name. A feather from a phoenix like that, especially if it was a phoenix you've cared for since it first hatched, that would ensure a feather with the greatest loyalty to you and give a boost to transfiguration
So these are my 3 cores; heart string from an eastern dragon, tail hair from an alicorn and feather from a thunderbird/phoenix cross breed, twisted together in a spiral tri-core wand design. From this you could see how the core's would work together in unison. The dragon core would provide the power, the alicorn core would provide the control and consistency, and the phoenix core would give the spell shape and versatility. A normal wand would probably burn up from this kind of power coursing through it, but the ancient magic wood its made from should be able to handle this level power
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3. Wand handle
Hogwarts legacy introduced wand handles as a thing so again i thought, what's the best you could get. Immediately i thought of a handle made from goblin silver. This would impart 2 important effects. Firstly goblin silver rejects any negative effects imparted to it, which means a handle made from this should be immune from the disarming charm which ofcourse is very practical. Secondly goblin silver absorbs any positive effects imparted to it, so the question becomes what is the best potion or material to "stock up" the silver with? Basilisk venom is too situational to be useful, and potions boosting magic arnt needed cus the wand already doesnt lack for power. What i settled on instead is felix felicis. In theory, if you polished the silver with liquid luck it would permanently have an added luck factor for whoever wields it. This i believe would be far more beneficial in the long run than any other potion the silver could absorb
Plus the best part, despite goblin tradition saying they would try to take the wand back after your death, they cant because of the fact it IS a wand. Goblin's cant even pick up a wand without causing an international incident, let alone a wand like this one. They wouldnt dare try to claim this wand handle back as it would probably spark a full scale wizard world war. And if all else fails, just put the same enchantment gryffindor's sword has to always summon it back to its chosen wielder
But even further than that, i wanted something cool for the pommel of the wand handle with a final effect. I thought of magic gemstones and such and one springs to mind right away, that being the philosopher's stone. Now while this would be an excellent choice, i still think its too situational to be useful. All the stone seems to do is create the elixir of life and transmute gold, and its unclear if the stone gets used up doing this or not. Now this might be delving far more into fan theory territory but i instead started looking more into pensives and how in the movie they seem to be made from a magical metal. What if you could break down the enchantment used to create the pensive and imbue the goblin silver with a variation of it? Not enough to enter memories, but to store the memories of every spell and skill you've learnt while wielding the wand in a miniature goblin repository (like from hogwarts legacy but tiny) on the pommel? The effect of this would be everything you've ever learnt would always be at your fingertips, and with the phoenix core having the added known effect of casting on its own in certain situations, imagine if said core started casting (in conjuncture with the other 2 cores) while having a full record of every spell you've ever learnt on hand. Then there's the added factor of imagine if this wand gets passed down and used throughout the generations, each wielder adding their own memories and experiences to the repository of knowledge. That i feel would be a fitting final device to finish this wand. But hey, if that's too fan fiction for you, philosophers stone is always a backup choice
So all in all you've got a wand made from a branch of the tree of knowledge, attuned to probably the most ancient magic of all. The cores of an eastern dragon, alicorn and theoretical firebolt phoenix in a tri-core wand design. Held together with a goblin silver handle imbued with liquid luck and topped off with a repository of memories derived from the pensive enchantment (or philosophers stone if you otherwise wish). Incase you didnt notice, in total thats 7 different kinds of magic going into the construction of this theoretical wand, which means it gets an ADDED boost from the whole arithmancy theory of magic around the number 7
Can you see why i said this theoretical wand could curb stomp the elder wand?
I don’t think this would even be a question unless they were created by death itself
*Can* it be recreated? Yes. By a wizard as skilled as the original Peverell brother, which they probably don't have. We do have at least some evidence that the Hallows are more powerful than standard items - Harry's Cloak. In the books they call it "perfect" and hasn't faded over how many hundreds of years? The Stone is apparently unique, and so may or may not be powerful for its kind, or may be supremely tricky to make, or just odd enough that no one thinks to try and make one. The wand is the one that there's both plenty of similar items out there and no hard evidence of being stronger than others like it. But I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt, considering the other two Hallows' natures.
In the books the elder wand was not broken and thrown in the moat, it was place in Professor Dumbledore's tomb by Harry himself
Yeah... he said so in the vid 😅😂
"Given that the Hallows exist..."
And that Harry is related to the Peverals by blood
A muggle could combine ingredients, but it wouldn't be magical. There is a step not mentioned in the books that converts a wooden stick into a magical object. A wand maker could combine the same ingredients to make a wand, but it might not be as powerful. There might be something in the make a stick magical procedure that the brothers did differently. I wonder if wands draw off of an energy source and Death has his own energy source that is different. The make a stick magical procedure may involve connecting the wand to a magical energy source.
In my personal cannon. Movie Harry did break the wand but it fixed itself and came to him. So he put it back in Dumbledore’s grave like in the books.
I personally think all the hallows were made by the brothers, all can be remade with relative easy, but albeit, powerful magic. The one I'm most interested in is the stone. We know alot about the wand and cloak, but almost nothing about the stone other than what it does. The wand and cloak appear frequently in the books and movies, but the stone on the other hand, hardly at all. What kind of stone, what kind of enchantments may have been on it, etc
It can be recreated but it's knowledge will be that of a brand new wand not the wand from legend. Remember, the wand chooses the wizard and both form a symbiotic relationship learning from each other. The Elder Wand was extremely powerful because it had served so many wizards it learned from in it's long history.
now that is an interesting plot for a new Harry Potter movie ... remember he threw it off the bridge thingy ... what if magically it has been reforged / remade
I think it’s very possible to remake the elder wand as well as the other hallows some theorize that the resurrection stone was fashioned from the veil inside the ministry and the invisibility cloak is not the only one in the Harry Potter universe so theoretically it is possible to remake the hallows or at the very least the elder wand cause in the end they are just magical artifacts
I wonder if a wand could be repaired if the resin native to that specific tree/material were applied, because the resin in nature is the essence of that said tree/material so shouldn't it in theory still hold magical properties and through its own adhesive properties act as a binding agent for the wand itself and by extension an insulator for the core? because like take hagrids wand being turned into the umbrella for example, I mean sure, it's still not as good as a standard wand, but I mean it still holds magical properties and can even perform some minor spells, but that's just as an umbrella, if you took the essence of the wand itself and used that to repair it, I don't see how it couldn't in theory restore it at least close to its original state.
The wand absorbs magic and knowledge from its user. This wand just happened to be a quick learner and absorber of a powerful wizard. It allows users to have their potential maximized and the add on of the previous user’s magic.
Usually, wands were burned with the wizard after they died. The elder wand wasn’t, and was instead passed to various wizards through combat. Since the wand had many users, it grew stronger over time, compounding its ability to make a user stronger.
Take any wand, and it would do the same, albeit not as effective as a wand that brings out the user’s full potential.
Lol Beedle The Bard are death himself😂😂.
The Elder Wand isn't the only unique wand. Yes it is powerful but wandlore has proven that can there can be wands created to perform similar feats. Salazar Slytherin wand of Snakewood and Basilisk horn core was able to perform powerful magic which also allowed the user (who can only be of his family line) to put the wand in rest mode. Now its not stated if a user who disarms the wand will earn its ownership or loyalty but if the wand is put to sleep it cannot work until it is undone.
So by that logic the first Peverell brother Antioch Peverell must have found a way to subtract the thestral core within the wand to allow it to fuse with it. Then he magically enchanted it and now its stated to be legendary yet beatable. Its only a matter of time before another brilliant wizard replicates it or creates a wand more stronger.
they might be able to recreate it but i think it will be weaker then the one in the book. invicibility cloaks do exists other than the one harry owns, but those have some flaws like the charm starting to fail over time or growing weaker, the cloaks getting damaged from spells etc. the one harry owns is the only one known to not have those issues. moodeye for instance mention in the 5th book that he have two cloaks and one is better than the other. (He complains that a phonix order member that is missing or sentenced to azkaban, cant remember which one, went missing while borrowing and using the better cloak)
so its clearly possible to recreate the cloak and from the interaction from the first book it apears that it is a general design for the cloaks since ron recogniced what it was right away when he first spotted it while opening pressents during chrismas.
so i defeitly think its possible to recreate a wand made with elder wood and the hair from creature in question, but it will be quite hard and it will most likely not be on the power of the original item.
A theory on The Elder Wand and why it is more powerful than any other wand...
Since wands and wizards can gain a sort of symbiosis, When it was first created, The Elder Wand was no more powerful than any other wand. However, as it got passed from one powerful wizard to another, it added a smidgen of each wizard's power to its own. Over time, it became more powerful than any wizard holding it.
So if you created a "Younger Wand", it could eventually be as powerful as its Elder brother, but it would be at least a millenium.
(Not a theory I subscribe to, but it popped in my head and I wanted to share.)
It would be easy for the right wand maker to replicate it but they likely wouldn't want to. The mere association with the want of legend would probably scare almost anybody away from it.
It is a beautiful story, I would like to believe it’s true, we’ve already had Sequels that didn’t abuse the legend of The Elder Wand, so I feel it should be left broken and unable to be recreated.
I have question- before the prophecy related to Harry, Dumbeldore had the Elder wand, the resurrection stone, and the invisibility cloak then why he couldn't defeat Voldemort?
The resurrection stone - he gave to Harry as shown in part 8
Cloak- given to Harry in 1st part
Didn't he had the resurrection stone before! If he had all the deathly hallows then no one should have been more powerful than Dumbledore.
Yes, you probably could recreate it, but it would be difficult.
According to the fairytale, the brothers came across death after going across a river. While this is part is definitely fake, there likely is truth contained in it. It was centuries ago so it’s possible that they saw a dead person or a person dying.
This led to them being able to see thestrals and so they would have able to kill thestrals and use them to make the deathly hallows. Edit, someone suggested that death was the thestral.
This makes me wonder about Voldemort's prowess that he pursued the most powerful want, but it was something created by someone else, not created by himself.
You can do, and it is very tricky, complicated and takes a lot of power and you have to do it during the full moon because of it's power will be at it's strongest and yes, you need to be very skilled a creating wands in the first place. It isn't a thing for anyone can do.
Okay. So you will need Eldertree wood, you will need threstal tail hair (hopefully you seen death to see them). You will need to infuse them together with a binding spell, combine it with rare materials, wizard power, magic, protective elements, powerful charms, unique herbs, zinc, water and gold, that will help make it solid, stable, flexible. Create a unique core with birtch, bronze and tin. Each time you do do these steps will alwas be on the full moon....and somehow, you have to connect it to death and the afterlife (that's another tricky one). Then, you recite some poem.
''By the light of the moon and the ancient tree,
Craft now a wand that shall let magic be.
With elder wood strong and Thestral hair hidden,
Bind them with spells, where secrets are bidden.
Let the wand's power through the ages transcend,
A new Elder Wand, may its magic never end.''
It should be done. I must say, the work that goes on Mugglenet lore is pretty interesting.
I wonder if Elder Wand was jinxed. Being the most powerful but at a cost of death for the one who wields it.
What if a wandmaker soaked the wood for a wand in a mix of his own blood and unicorn blood then bathed the thestral tailhair in felix felices and his own blood before making the wand?
JK. rowling has confirmed that the deathly hallows were made by the 3 brothers and the death thing was simply a spin on the tale to give it a fantisaful spin to the story as bards usually do back in the middle ages
What happens if the Elder Wand repaired itself after time wouldn't be that Farfetch'd
Should we not ask just about the Elder wand but also the two other Deathly Hallows and how all three came to be? Yes, perhaps products of very proficient wizards, but then how were they created: the Invisibility Cloak and the stone? Is there enough knowledge as there is with the Elder Wand to recreate either of them? If not, then does the story involving Death personified have more credibility?
That was great 🎉
Could you say that the cloak of invisibility is made of thestral hairs? And that people who’s witnessed death can actually see it?
Seeing how the Elder Wand has been studied by the likes of Gregorovitch and it yet has to be recreated despite it is apparently known that it is made of Elder Wood and has a Thestral Tail Hair as its core, it might not be possible to recreate it. And I think the cause of this is the Elder Wand itself. A temperamental wand like the Elder Wand probably wouldn't want a copy of itself and seeing why it was created, the same might go for his creator. And with how powerful the wand actually is, I do think it possible that Antioch casted a curse with it, making it impossible for future wand makers to combine Elder Wood and Thestral hair into a similar wand. None shall be allowed to create a rival to his wand.
When death created the elder wand he infused his essence into the wand. That’s my theory and that’s why I think the elder wand of legend is unbeatable. But as you stated though there will never be another elder wand like that one.
I mean given that it was Death who made the wand, why would that make it exclusive to himself? Like what about it would make it only able to created by him?
I think it is possible to recreate it. It would only need a very powerful wandmaker. ❤
I think the Wand is man-made and could be recreated, but it may be that there was something special involved with its making that makes it so powerful beyond just the materials and nobody knows exactly what that is and it could take a long time to stumble on it again. We don't really know the specifics about how normal wands are made, and there's clearly more to it than just the materials, otherwise all things being equal a simple repair spell should be able to fix a broken wand.
Can a worthy duplicate be made sure. At least I think it can be because we know enough about wand lore to do so. But as far as another "one"..no, I don't think because even a worthy duplicate would most likely choose another kind of wizard because that much has always been clear.. The wand chooses the wizard
Forged by Death himself.
I don't think you could recreate the Elder wand. You could make a wand with all the right materials and flexibility, but consider Harry's wand: it sharing a core with Tom's wand created a special extra feature of the two wands than no other wands had. The source and context of the Phoenix feathers were as important as whether or not the feathers were just any old Phoenix. It seems to me that, giving the fact that the Elder Wand was indeed the most powerful, there is something lost in the telling of the story that without knowing what the variables are, we would only succeed in making a replica.
The Elder wand didnt have a core.
Do all wizard/witch made wands have cores?
To me, the core is what makes the wand sentient as that part came from a magical creature.
Actually the wand did have a core, thestral hair. All of the items were made from thestrals, which is why they are so powerful.
The Cloak last forever since only those who seen death can see thestrals. Harry’s ancestor must’ve adjusted the skin somehow.
The Wand is powerful because not many people would be able to acquire Thestrals hair.
The Stone can bring back the dead, possibly because Thestrals are already connected to death somehow. Perhaps the person brought back is a death that they witnessed.
Can elder wand be fixed by death or wand maker?