Forget about the trolling motors idea - get a 15hp outbord motor - that'll do it. Two stroke is best. I got mine for about $150. Another 150 for the mount.
the real beauty of electric, is that you can put the power where you need it. for example, your outboard gas solution, the power is perched awkwardly above the water. If you could, why wouldn't you put the power exactly where it's needed. I love the fact that I can "pole out" the motor on my little 24v trolling rig, but you're probably right on not being powerful enough... so I found a more powerful electric motor. It's a 3hp brushless electric job from Newport Vessels called the NK300. I made a mockup of the mounting rig that you can see on my community section of my youtube channel. I'm curious what you think. The big issue with mounting these motors on a super long shaft is the torque against the shaft, so I've incorporated 2 mounting brackets (1 inverted under the other) to give the main shaft the extra support it will need. AND! By using the folding bracket on top, I'll be able to pull these motors up and out of the water, and then fold them back neatly against the siderail. It's pure vanity, I know, but I really hate the look of big outboards stuck precariously to the back of sailboats.
@@EdwardSeatonSailings After running my electric for a couple of seasons, I wouldn't go electric at all on a sailboat anymore, yet the electric dinghy solution is perfect. I put a solar panel on my dinghy and that worked really well, except somebody nicked it, yet that's good too, because I don't need it anymore :)
@@EdwardSeatonSailings One other thing I found out - when sailing in strong conditions, it is necessary to get all outboards out of the water, otherwise one can have a situation on ones hands that is just too difficult to cope with with engines down, especially two of them. Dealing with engines out is a hastle and I have my electric permanently out now mostly, for convenience really, though if I lose the main in calm conditions I can drop the electric - good for that. I wouldnt go for two - just too difficult to deal with on the move.
Like the other comment, it's probably just the fuel filter or pickup tube - these things cause exact issue - work at low rpm, use up all the fuel in the bowl at higher rpm. It's better to keep your diesel if you can.
have you considered the same? I'm looking for other folks that have used these motors to push their sailboats with 2 x 24v trolling motors, and I can find nothing.
@@EdwardSeatonSailings I've been thinking about converting to electric, but not like with 2 trolling motors. Haven't even thought about it, and I want to know if it's doable? Everyone keeps saying converting to electric is not worth it yet and that makes me sad :(
@@Sailorboynumberone yeah! I have been getting many enthusiastic endorsements. I've ordered a 24v 5hp electric motor from China! We'll see if it works. If 1 motor off the stern can move me around the marina then 2 will keep me cruising all day if I needed them to. That's the plan anyway. Stay tunned.
possibly... have had a conversation with some diesel mechanics and they've said that it's probably an internal piston thing? they also said that this little diesel doesn't like being run at 3k rpm? It all sounds so finicky and fragile. I hate to invest any more time or money into something so temperamental. What do you think of this dual electric motors over the stern?
I don't think that would work very well, would definitely not provide sufficient torque to fight heavy current. You would be better off installing an inboard electric brushless motor, but that would cost more than two trolling motors.
@@SailingInScotland I have the same concern, but not all trolling motors are alike. I read somewhere that the 24v 86lbs thrust trolling motors are equivalent to 1.5 horsepower. If I have 2 of them pushing the boat, that might be enough, no? I've thought about an inboard electric motor, but that doesn't solve any of the problems that are inherent with an inboard setup, namely when it breaks, and it will break, or tangle, you have to go over the side to fix it or get the entire boat lifted out of the water. And then there's the drag. I love the idea of being able to lift the motors out of the water completely. Not worried about range, as I''ll get a backup gas generator for longer hauls. It's just the torque issue that you've mentioned. Will there be enough? I think I just have to try it. see what happens.
@@SailingInScotland I've ordered a 24v Brushless outboard motor that says it will produce 5hp! We shall see. It's an experiment ;) I'll keep you posted. Thanks for your input.
My father made the same suggestion. I was like, duh, why didn't I think of that! In reality though, it would have been a very bad place to throw your anchor as it was right in the main channel and there is lots of ferry traffic, so yes, I should have considered it, but I think I still did the best thing for the situation... in other words, I got lucky ;)
Forget about the trolling motors idea - get a 15hp outbord motor - that'll do it. Two stroke is best. I got mine for about $150. Another 150 for the mount.
the real beauty of electric, is that you can put the power where you need it. for example, your outboard gas solution, the power is perched awkwardly above the water. If you could, why wouldn't you put the power exactly where it's needed. I love the fact that I can "pole out" the motor on my little 24v trolling rig, but you're probably right on not being powerful enough... so I found a more powerful electric motor. It's a 3hp brushless electric job from Newport Vessels called the NK300. I made a mockup of the mounting rig that you can see on my community section of my youtube channel. I'm curious what you think. The big issue with mounting these motors on a super long shaft is the torque against the shaft, so I've incorporated 2 mounting brackets (1 inverted under the other) to give the main shaft the extra support it will need. AND! By using the folding bracket on top, I'll be able to pull these motors up and out of the water, and then fold them back neatly against the siderail. It's pure vanity, I know, but I really hate the look of big outboards stuck precariously to the back of sailboats.
@@EdwardSeatonSailings After running my electric for a couple of seasons, I wouldn't go electric at all on a sailboat anymore, yet the electric dinghy solution is perfect. I put a solar panel on my dinghy and that worked really well, except somebody nicked it, yet that's good too, because I don't need it anymore :)
@@EdwardSeatonSailings One other thing I found out - when sailing in strong conditions, it is necessary to get all outboards out of the water, otherwise one can have a situation on ones hands that is just too difficult to cope with with engines down, especially two of them. Dealing with engines out is a hastle and I have my electric permanently out now mostly, for convenience really, though if I lose the main in calm conditions I can drop the electric - good for that. I wouldnt go for two - just too difficult to deal with on the move.
Like the other comment, it's probably just the fuel filter or pickup tube - these things cause exact issue - work at low rpm, use up all the fuel in the bowl at higher rpm. It's better to keep your diesel if you can.
Very interested in the engine projekt 👍
have you considered the same? I'm looking for other folks that have used these motors to push their sailboats with 2 x 24v trolling motors, and I can find nothing.
@@EdwardSeatonSailings I've been thinking about converting to electric, but not like with 2 trolling motors. Haven't even thought about it, and I want to know if it's doable? Everyone keeps saying converting to electric is not worth it yet and that makes me sad :(
@@Sailorboynumberone yeah! I have been getting many enthusiastic endorsements. I've ordered a 24v 5hp electric motor from China! We'll see if it works. If 1 motor off the stern can move me around the marina then 2 will keep me cruising all day if I needed them to. That's the plan anyway. Stay tunned.
@EdwardSeatonSailings ok it's going yo be fun🥳
Sounds like you have a fuel delivery issue. If bearings were siezing the revs won't make any difference.
possibly... have had a conversation with some diesel mechanics and they've said that it's probably an internal piston thing? they also said that this little diesel doesn't like being run at 3k rpm? It all sounds so finicky and fragile. I hate to invest any more time or money into something so temperamental. What do you think of this dual electric motors over the stern?
I don't think that would work very well, would definitely not provide sufficient torque to fight heavy current. You would be better off installing an inboard electric brushless motor, but that would cost more than two trolling motors.
@@SailingInScotland I have the same concern, but not all trolling motors are alike. I read somewhere that the 24v 86lbs thrust trolling motors are equivalent to 1.5 horsepower. If I have 2 of them pushing the boat, that might be enough, no? I've thought about an inboard electric motor, but that doesn't solve any of the problems that are inherent with an inboard setup, namely when it breaks, and it will break, or tangle, you have to go over the side to fix it or get the entire boat lifted out of the water. And then there's the drag. I love the idea of being able to lift the motors out of the water completely. Not worried about range, as I''ll get a backup gas generator for longer hauls. It's just the torque issue that you've mentioned. Will there be enough? I think I just have to try it. see what happens.
@@SailingInScotland I've ordered a 24v Brushless outboard motor that says it will produce 5hp! We shall see. It's an experiment ;) I'll keep you posted. Thanks for your input.
Anytime you get in trouble like that, if you can, throw your anchor.
My father made the same suggestion. I was like, duh, why didn't I think of that! In reality though, it would have been a very bad place to throw your anchor as it was right in the main channel and there is lots of ferry traffic, so yes, I should have considered it, but I think I still did the best thing for the situation... in other words, I got lucky ;)