Holosun HM3X Magnifier: First Impressions
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In this video, Chandler takes us through his unboxing, overview, and first impressions of the Red Dot Magnifier from Holosun; the HM3X. This affordable magnifier offering from Holosun proves to be a great intro into red dot magnifiers, but time will tell how it holds up in the long run.
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Have both the EoTech G33 and the Holosun HM3X, found we determined little to no difference between the two magnifiers for ease of use, clarity, eye relief. Both functioned well under use. Each did not hinder intended function. A magnifier is a must have item behind a EoTech or Red Dot sight for target identification at range.
Very well said! Thank you for the input!
Only difference is price
I have both the Vortex 3x and Holosun 3x and I like the holosun better for three reasons. 1) The mount is much more convenient to mount 2) the glass looks much clearer and 3) the eye relief and scope shadow seems better to me than the Vortex. I have the Vortex 3x paired with their UH-1 Gen 2 and I feel like I have to get much closer to the eye piece to get a good sight picture. The magnified objects look good but when I compare to the Holosun 512c and the 3x the Holosun is a bit more forgiving on the eye piece and slightly clearer. I was impressed with the Holosun I purchased another to go with a Holosun 510c. I’m more of an LPVO person but there is no arguing a holographic or red dot is very fast. But going beyond 3x, I would rather take an LPVO than say a 4 or 5x magnifier.
Could not agree more! Well said!
Lucas a T.Rex recommends going with 1-8 LVPO and adding a Holo or Reflext Red Dot on an offset mount - up near the end of the scope for quick target acquisition in CQB.
I paired the hm3x with the Holosun 403r, $330 for the pair. 1/3 co-witness lined up perfectly.
The eye relief was the thing that kind of surprised me. I normally like to run my stock all the way back. With the hm3x, I have to have my stock all the way to the front, my nose almost touching the charging handle to get a full view with no shadowing. I do like that when I move the magnifier off to the right, I'm able to pop up my mbus rear sight with no interference. Overall I'm happy with the purchase, just need to get used to being up close on my stock.
Awesome feedback! Thank you!
Good video, just turn down the background music a smidge next time.
I am going to pair this with my Holosun 510C green dot. Cheers!
Appreciate your feedback! Trevor with the channel has the 510c red dot with the titanium version and it’s been great!
How well did it pair up? I'm going to go with the 510C as well.
@@peterb1239 Really good, easy on the eyes and clear as can be.
This combo will be mine come Christmas time.
I’m late to the party but thanks for the video! I’m not super happy with my vortex micro 3x and this seems to solve some problems I have with it. Mostly eye relief. I also wanted to see if you could use the magnifier with flip up back ups. Glad to see you doing that here
Thanks for the feedback!
You can just barely use them when the magnifier is switched to the side.
Sometimes they don’t flip up well if the magnifier doesn’t get flipped all the way to the side. That’s on the MBUS Gen 2. I’m not sure about the Gen 3 or pros though.
I have looked at the Holosun HM3XT and my local retailor sales it for 350.00, I looked on line and found if for 299.00. But then I looked further and found the venerable HM3X which is made of aluminum and about 199.00 on line. For my needs if I find myself in an environment / situation that is too much for the HM3X then I am in way over my head and should be running. I'll be getting one in about a month from the time of this comment. That most likely would be on 09/26/2024.
Just got this to pair with my eotech 518. Works great and was 200 bucks
Glad you like it!
nice review dude, congrats. that magnifier looks quite the go considering the price, i would like to see a torture test on that though
Thanks John Pro Merc! If we are able to get another one, we will look into torture testing!
Since we are essentially a newer business, the equipment allowances are minimal, so usually when we buy, we try and take good care of it.
Torture tests are often recommended, and we will get there one day. Great feedback 😎🔥
@@RangeDay fuck yeah dude!
😎💪🏽🇺🇸
Man my 510c red dot looks way more clearer than my eotech does and it’s half the price lol Words to eotech you guys need some new technology asap!!! I just bought another 510c for my B&T GHM9G I was going to go with a AMES or 512c but I’m not into the box type red dots but maybe I’m just being weird I’ve used the 512c and it’s a killer red dot and damn near indestructible.
We were talking about this just the other day. EOTech is tried and true, but there really hasn’t been any advancement on their end in awhile. It’s something to consider.
Trevor with the channel has a 510c, and it’s a great optic! Absolutely a great choice.
The 512c is on the list for future optics as well.
Thanks for the comment!
@@RangeDay yup holosun is definitely doing their thing with their optics. Eotech better step their game up asap! Yeah I might buy a 512c next. Keep
Up the great videos bro 👍
Agreed it's like eotech is Simmons compared to holosun being a Leopold
Good review but the music is too loud. I'll def be picking one of this up.
Definitely a good one to get! Thanks for the feedback!
Did the mounting of your HM3X block your rear iron sight? Or whenever you flipped it to the side was it accessible?
Your rifle is set up really close to mine. I am using nights armament ebay sights and I use magpul grey everything including the sling. My olight is even grey. I wrapped the wire in electrical tape to stiffen it up and protect it , it's and held down with 2 zip ties. I don't have to worry anymore if its going to disconnect. The tape kinda pushes it forward and holds it in place. Its the mini, its good but not as good as its bigger brother. I have it on another rifle. I have the 10.5 with flaming pig and the law tactical folding adapter, so I can put in a back pack and take to and from my truck without anyone knowing and freaking out. I highly recommend it. I had that hand stop but played with it too much trying new things and ended up over tightening the screws and they pushes through the plastic making it useless. I replaced it with more of those great rail covers. Sorry longer than needed my way of saying you have great taste in affordable but really good upgrades. Beautiful rifle.
Man when it comes to setups, we can read dissertations about them. We love hearing people talk about their gear. It sounds like you’ve got a pretty sweet setup too.
Keep it up Section 8! 💪🏽
Need to clear up something you said about the Vortex being awkward to manipulate because of the plunger being on the wrong end if you flip it. This only applies to their older 3X model, the VMX-3T. The newer Micro3X does not have a plunger and can be easily and conveniently flipped over and used that way, if the shooter so chooses. I also find that the Holosun HM3X tends to be not as solid on the rail, and can be accidentally shaken off a setting. If one gently shakes the rifle with the HM3X installed, one can feel and hear a rattle. These symptoms are not present with the Micro3X. However, the HM3X does have amazing glass for a unit at the $200 price level. Also, the eye relief and a sight picture could be easier to acquire for the less experienced with the HM3X because it is longer, thus being closer to the shooter’s eye. It’s a personal preference: if you don’t mind the extra bit of weight and mass on the rifle, you’re maybe not perfect on acquiring a sight picture, the HM3X might be for you. If you want less weight and mass with great clarity and want an unlimited, unconditional, lifetime guarantee, and don’t mind paying about $100 more, the Micro3X is more likely going to be your choice. I think it would be prudent for you to do the research BEFORE making a statement, even with a disclaimer. It’s lazy.
Appreciate the feedback! Some really good points you’ve got in there. I have no doubt that Vortex micro is a great option as well!
However, research was done comparing the apples to apples $200 to $200 price of the standard Vortex 3MX-3T to the HM3X! The extra $100 for the vortex micro wasn’t really the comparison I was trying to go for for the purposes of this budget magnifier, sort of for the same reason why the EOTech G30 wasn’t in the fight either. It was more a comparison of good intro magnifiers for those who are new to the subject!
And for the price and features of the HM3X, it seemed like the best option for me. But that will all be tested in reviews down the line. After all it is a first impressions and opinion! Thanks for the comment!
@@RangeDay That's fair.
I think you should watch the video again and pay attention. He clearly was speaking about the micro edition. How are you going to tell someone they need to do some research when you can't even use basic comprehensive skills.
About to order this along with the 510 sight and was wondering if you know exactly how many rail spaces each unit’s base mount takes up.
Ever find an answer for this?
@@DisputeAmore the entire Sig M400 Tread pic rail. Squishing them as close as possible it is 11 rail spaces total. Which barely leaves 2 for backup sights flipped down.
I don’t have an exact count but I’ll share that the combo basically takes up all of the rail space over a standard receiver save for maybe 2-3 slots of adjustment.
The optic takes up around 7 slots while the magnifier base is about 5. But the clearance needed to flip the magnifier up and down is 2 empty rail slots so it won’t hit the optic.
If I slide it all forward, and still keep it all on the receiver (not hand guard) you can fit back up irons. I don’t like the eye relief as much with this setup though.
Thanks for the video 🤙🏽
Thanks for the comment!
Oh bro you need the holosun 510c I've got it on top of my cmmg 556 mk4 wasp I take it on and off at least 2 to 3 times a week it's always on at 50 it's never been off that's a hell of a thing for me also you've got dot dot with circle then circle bright to dim the brighter it is in the room or outside the brighter the dot after 10min it goes to sleep till it feels movement it wakes
Yeah Trevor has a 510c and it’s great!
Can you please show us how to switch the mount for left hand shooter
Absolutely. We will start working on that video here in the near future!
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How many picatinny slots does the magnifier take? I'd like to use a YHM 3 slot riser, since my 510c is also on a YHM 3 slot riser.
It takes up about 2” of tail space for the normal mount.
Holosun is being used in Ukraine right now. I would be interested in hearing what they have to say about it.
Us as well! That deserves some research for sure. See how everything has been holding up.
How many slots does the mount cover?
Looks like the flip up backup irons are useless with the magnifier attached.
They just barely work. It’s more of an emergency thing really. You can take off the magnifier from the rail pretty easy and the flip ups would be alright. But everything has to be perfect for them to flip up with the magnifier to the side.
Did you use the riser for the HM3X with the 512?
I did not! The HM3X required no adjustment or riser to sit perfectly behind the EOTech 512!
I wish they would come out with a 5x magnafier.
I always wondered why there wasn’t more options out on the market for higher magnification for these magnifiers. Seems like just about everyone sticks to a 3x. It would be nice to have the options though.
Was it difficult to center up the magnifier to the red dot optic and how was it done?Thanks
Even with the Holosun magnifier being paired with an EOTech 512, they paired seamlessly. I didn’t have to adjust the knobs on the magnifier at all to get it centered.
However, with the adjustment knobs that Holosun has on the magnifier, it would be a quick and easy process. Very similar to how you adjust a standard red dot from them.
@@RangeDay okay Thanks
When I look through my hm3x I see a tiny black dot off to the right side and my sight picture is off the the low left will the black dot disappear if I adjust the sight picture properly? Thanks
I’m not sure about the dot. But I’d think adjusting that picture definitely wouldn’t hurt!
What length barrel are you running with this setup? How far out did you reach with decent accuracy? At what range is your EOtech zeroed? Did you need to make windage and elevation adjustments on the magnifier?
Just curious. Been looking at a few of these magnifiers.
In order of asked!
Currently paired with an 11.5” barrel. But will test on a 16” soon.
I’ve only reach out as far as I’ve been able at our range, which is currently 100 yds. With good results.
EOTech is currently zeroed at. 50/200 yd.
The magnifier aligned perfectly with the 512 when mounted so I did not have to adjust the magnifier to center the reticle.
Hope this helps!
Is it hard to get the magnifier an the 512c to match up , and do I need to add the adapter piece to get it to match up together? Thanks for any feedback 👍🏼
I don’t have much experience with the Holosun 512c. However it matched up with the EOTech 512 right out of the box no riser or adjustments.
I believe the 512c is the 510c fully enclosed. Next time we get to the range I’ll see how those line up and report back. I suspect it will line up.
Do shell casing hit the magnifier when it is put to the right side (or not in use)?
Does it lock positively and stay in place when you are running with the rifle (does it move around loosely as your moving)?
I haven’t had any issues with shell casings with my personal AR.
As for the locking, it is friction locking and, as of this moment, hasn’t given me issue. But we will see how that holds up long term.
No issues with running, manipulating the rifle or magnifier, or movement under courses of fire.
Hope this helps!
Did you run into any zeroing issues by bridging the 512 from the receiver to the handguard?
I did not at the time, however I can’t speak to how it would hold up after since I’ve since moved it to a different AR.
Got a 553 and I'm currently running into the same issue. I have to bridge just to get both to fit on the same upper
I’m late to the party but my magnifier is almost all black when I look through it. Any ideas?
First one is the lens cap haha. Otherwise it sounds like eye relief. I’d try moving your eye closer and further until you see a picture through it. Eye relief on these is typically around 3” give or take a bit.
When talking on camera, please refrain from using music, or turn it down.
We’ve adjusted a bunch of our background music to be easier on the ears now!
@@RangeDay Perfect!
How about you stop complaining like an old lady?
Would the holosun work with an Exps2 model? I gather that's a no based on the fact the ex series has the QD higher mount.
I don't know if you got your answer but I believe this model comes with a spacer for a lower 1/3rd cowitness optic like the XPS
He is correct! It does come with a spacer to account for those higher mounted optics such as the QD EOTech mounts. I haven’t tried it myself, but I believe it should work.
@@RangeDay thanks for the response! Good video as well.
@@RangeDay you don’t need the spacer, dot is still centered even though magnifier sits lower
Does the magnifier obstruct field of view when it's flipped out of the way?
Thanks for the comment Dan!
The way I have mine set up, I swing the magnifier to the right side of the receiver, and it doesn’t impact my FOV much at all.
Of course you’ll loose a little FOV on that side, but that’s if I’m being EXTREMELY picky about it. Other than that I barely notice.
Now if you switch it over to swing to the left, it will absolutely be in your way. It’s one of the reasons I went with the Holosun over the vortex.
The magnifier can be tilted to the left? I'm left-handed and swinging it to the right takes away my field of vision.
On the other hand, is there enough eye relief to shoot with a magnum hunting rifle?
Great video.
Thank you
The magnifier comes set up to swing to the right by default. However, you are able to detach the optic from the base and swap it around to flip it left for whatever you prefer.
As for the eye relief for the hunting rifle, that is all going to be dependent on what optic you pair it with, and what kind of rail space you have on top as well. But as long as you pair the magnifier with a non magnified optic, I wouldn’t see any issues.
I have just bought this 3x magnifier and do you need to zero it if you have already zeroed your halogrpahic optic?
Thanks!!
Not technically. The optic will still remain zeroed regardless. You might notice that the reticle is off center in the magnifier viewing window. This is where you will have to “zero” the magnifier, but you’re really just lining it up. The optic is still zeroed.
@RangeDay oh ok, thanks!!
Do you need to sight in the magnifier too or just the holosun screen? Thank you
Only the Holosun needs to be zeroed. The magnifier may need “sighting” to center up the reticle but it doesn’t actually change the accuracy.
Nice video. Is there enough clearance for the BUIS to flip Up when the Magnifier is flipped to the side?
Just barely. It actually presses against the side of the magnifier flipped to the right with Magpul MBUS. So results may very with varying backup irons.
Bridged optics
Were you able to fit the Eotech, magnifier, AND iron sight without bridging your optic?
I believe that the front shroud where the batteries extend over the rail, but I don’t believe the 1913 lock in bridges.
I currently have this on my scorpion but I’ll report back when I transfer back out.
@@RangeDay please update
Hmmmm, not sure just why a magnifier would be needed,but I do wonder if it would work with my vortex strike eagle
A magnifier will help with reaching out with a 1x optic like a red dot or holographic sight.
If you’re referring to the LPVO Strike Eagle, I don’t know if it would work even if there was the rail space for it.
Idk if you'll see this but are you still able to flip your rear sight up with it to the right?
Mine does. But just barely.
I have MBUS GEN 2 sights and the adjustment knob is on the right for those rear sights, so when I have the magnifier flipped right, and flip up the backup sights, the backup sight springs up into place and the adjustment knob is right up against the magnifier. I doubt you could slide a sheet of paper between them.
If you flip your magnifier left you would have much more room. Or, if you MBUS Pro backups it probably wouldn’t be an issue either.
@@RangeDay I ended up buying a used 552 and it sat leaning to the left so I sent it back
I use Troy Industries metal flip up sights w/Tritium which lay down under the magnifier until needed at rear last slot of upper receiver. Going forward magnifier then EoTech. Flip the magnifier to side or take magnifier off and drop in drop pouch. No real need for iron sights unless failure of EoTech battery or being hit by bullet. Sight in EoTech at 36 yards. Use hold marks on site image. Navy Seal buddy put me on to using 1/2” up to 1” riser for EoTech and Magnifier or even LPVO’s use 45 degree red dot or iron sites on side of weapon. Object is with weapon in high ready, just bring weapon up to eye without scrunching neck to see sight. Faster response, faster shot wins. Riser is being used by Special Operations people. View Milspec MoJo’s RUclips video talking about risers with optics. UTG or I think Yankee Hill has risers. 1/2” seems most popular. Edited this… EoTech 558, night vision capable uses AA batteries, most common. OR….EXPS3 uses CR123 battery.
Wish i could stay for the whole video, but background music is loud🤦🏽♂️
How heavy is that ar
I don’t have an accurate enough scale to measure it. I have a scale that reads it at 8 lb unloaded, but I don’t believe that. It seems lighter and that scale isn’t really meant to be used for that low of weight.
However, the EOTech and Holosun Magnifier do add a top heavy characteristic to the pistol that I haven’t decided if I will keep or not. (the pair weigh just under 1.5 lb together). This particular optic combo may switch over to the 16” rifle build that we put together.
The gun is still extremely easy to handle with all the attachments shown due to its overall length and where the weight sits on the gun.
When I can get a better measurement, I’ll update this. Apologies for the answer, but I hope it helps!
@@RangeDay thx. Always wanted to build a 16” lightweight. But gets pricey
@@svt283 I have a 20oz LVPO which I believe is the same weight as the 512+ Holosun hm3x on my 16" non-lightweight build. The whole rifle weighs little more than 9 lbs unloaded without any light or laser. You definitely need a lightweight build if you don't want to carry a sub 10lb rifle around.
I wish creators would stop with all the box openings. We know how to open a box and there was no reason to show here either.
Some like it, some don’t. But thanks for the feedback!
Please don’t use music like this again very distracting.
Thanks for the feedback! Always looking to improve!
Lost all credibility when i saw you bridged the optic onto your hand guard
That was a mistake on my end at the time, it was a result of trying to keep those backup sights there.
The clamp for the EOTech was on the upper only, however some of that front section went over onto the hand guard.
It never gave me any issues, but it’s good practice to avoid that, as you pointed out. Believe it or not, people do make mistakes once in a while.
That optic was moved onto another gun shortly after addressing that issue when I removed the rear flip up backup sight.
@@RangeDay no worries. I was just giving you a hard time. You took the criticism better than I would lol. I should’ve added an”lol” on my post.
Why people make videos with music is so stupid
We know! Lol literally the worst.
Seems to me, a lefty, that the Holoson magnifier will be in the way of the sight when canted over to the right. Could they make the canting mechanism a left/right option? Anyone actually tried to use this magnifiers as a lefty? Oops, I looked further and noted you can turn the mount around and get a left handed option. My bad.
It’s all good! Glad to see we’ve got you covered! But if you have questions, don’t hesitate to ask!