LISK PSYCHOLOGY Deep Inside The Mind Of A Serial Killer
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
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Final pages of THE BIRTH AND DEATH OF MEANING by Ernest Becker
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My God, your analyses are so deep and insightful that I feel like I've been to a brain gym for a hard workout. Thank you.
No, thank YOU. Comment pinned!
@TCRS Nick Pleaaase watch the live conference where John Ray expose pictures of Victoria Rex H daughter which implicate her as well It is awful I am nautious but she couldnt have made those without insight in her dad's live ..according to John Ray .It displays details of murders and dreadful stuff .
@@ChrisDied Actually not Nick is a world renowned journalist with studies in law psychology and much more and has travelled to most of the crime scenes and the world He knows alot about architecture which may be a nb factor in crime and has travelled the world He analyse one step at a time .He has written over a 100 books And you ?
@@ChrisDied Youvdont know how someone feels at the time maybe not Nicks best but still a valid contribution there are others that are excellent .
It took me 40 years to realize I was brainwashed to be my parents' doormat.
That pic of the ogre as a child is heartbreaking. The adult resembles the child but also looks completely different - as the adult ogre he has a blankness and cruelty in his expression he doesn't have as a child. It's horrible to think that little guy is going to grow up to be him.
His relationship with his mother reminds me of the movie "Psycho" and Norman Bates's relationship with his mother.
I made that connection too. The more I hear about him, the more I think so. Norman didn't have a wife though
You’re not alone❤️
Hmmm, I bet he hated his mom and he berated her every chance he got.
An in depth study needs to be done re his mother and her influence in his life
I'm not thinking this analysis is anything less than genius. Utterly fascinating and completely worthwhile.
Shakespeare said “there’s a divinity that shapes our ends, rough-hew them how will” Heuermann had the chance to change his… he didn’t take it. Now he is heading back to a bullying institution, even worse than before.
Great quote Diane 😊
Great insight!
Shakespeare has been credited with the origin of psychology. Well deserved.
When I was 20 I studied psych.1-6,& child study & observation.But now I am 67 & have forgotten a lot of what I have learned,but I am so glad I have subscribed to your channel & listen to so many analysis of different cases,I have renewed my passion in true crime!Thank you for being the best professor I have ever had!
I think he is a prime example of why bullies should not bully anyone. It's not cool. It can cause lasting damage. Be kind to everyone.
If you look at Heuerman's house one thing among many that strikes me is how he did not make it into his own home with his knowledge of building. If you look on both sides of his house the houses have been added onto and improved. It's like he's stuck in the house of his childhood and can't get out. He can't even build his way out. Yet, he's a big man in Manhattan in midtown with his own boutique firm which is no small feat. A very strange dichotomy. And he's got a family in that small house that he uses to unalive people allegedly. And he's the biggest guy in any room. A very strange psyche.
This comment brought me to think he was emotionally unable to fix or change his “parents” house. Paralyzed by fear he couldn’t do it right according to his mother even after she was gone. To me his house reflects how he felt inside.
@@GetBackJoe1969 good point
He hid his crimes in the chaos of his mother’s house
He didn’t have a boutique in NYC, he was in own architecture firm.
@@GetBackJoe1969Yes I think his dilapidated house reflects his inner vacuum of humanity both inside and his appearance. He was so monstrous looking, those shark like eyes! Ugh, he probably couldn’t find a date unless he paid for it except his wife who seems definitely odd.
I live in California and there are many adults living with parents due to outrageous rent or home costs.
I have a friend who lived with his mother, for valid reasons, mostly, into his 40's.
By then it was too late to get away. Now he is 63 and still lives with her, caring for her in her early stages of dementia.
He had moved out, into room mate situations for brief times, but it never lasted bc he didn't know how to live with anyone but her.
I lived with both of them, together for two times, and saw the dysfunction up close.
Even in a "healthy" interacting relationship, it's an incredibly toxic situation.
The adult child can safely live with a parent, only if they are secure in their own identity. If they, as a separate adult person, choose to live with family for legitimate reasons, they can also be a functional adult. But in this case…
With kids, it's definitely hard to find the middle ground when it comes to being overly critical and too permissive. A good parent tries their best to figure it out.
If you love your kids for who and how they are instead of who and how you want them to be, they will become strong and stable individuals
This analysis was very thought provoking to me. I didn’t know the back story of Heuerman, which actually made me feel sorry for him, in spite of his horrific crimes. The theory of the decapitation, of not being judged by someone without a face, answers a lot of questions. This, and for other obvious reasons as well, shows why we all have to take school bullying more seriously.
Yes, I want it deeper into his psychology, please and thank you.
I appreciate your deeper dives, keep them coming!
Thanks, will do!
@@TCRSThank you! 🙏👍
Yes! Deep Dive #5 please 🙏🏼
I think the self esteem conversation is very important as well. I think it makes people have to think about painful things in their own lives. Society isn't in to thinking deeply these days.
"Society isn't into thinking deeply these days ".
I agree! The lack of independent & critical thinking is painfully evident these days. It affects beliefs, perception of facts, & overall quality of interpersonal skills. Effective communication is key but too many people listen with clogged filters. Healthy confidence/self-esteem is necessary for us to see, accept, & deal with the truth, esp the harsh kind.
Thank you for another fabulous LISK analysis.❤
Your self esteem series is invaluable. Please continue to enlighten us on the subject. We all need to hear it; it's VERY important to our future! ❤
More to come!
@@TCRS I’m a new subscriber; you’re brilliant and insightful and I’m very thankful I found your channel. Where is the self esteem series? Is this the two called the ‘TCRS Toolbox?’ Thank you for all you do!
I was in a group therapy run by a psychiatrist and 2 psychologists, they taught us that everything has meaning in terms of emotions. One example they referred to was who we sat next to and who we sat across from. You're the only youtuber who delves into the deeper meanings of everything related to psychology. I am impressed by your brilliant insights especially considering you didnt study psychology. Thanks for your brilliant analysis!
Something that confuses me is the fact that the level of knowledge and skill, technical and social, required to have a consulting business in downtown Manhatten cannot be discounted. Not just anybody can begin, grow and maintain such a business. Super weirdos would have difficulty doing this. The guy obviously has tremendous social and psychological pathologies but is interacting on a daily basis at a high level. Does he compartmentalize his psychology or were there obvious signs that were ignored?
@@paulf2529 He was a code troubleshooter. And from what I read he used unsavory tactics to get the building permits for his clients. Someone like that will always find a client.
Yes, he must have had the social (as well as technical) skills to maintain that, get himself commissioned for the public works projects his company seemed to do. They may have been superficial, but he did have the social skills for that.
Maybe it has more to do with his attachment style than it does with his intelligence and social skills - though I've seen some people say he was a bit creepy...
You are speaking of Schadenfreude 4:44. It is defined as "finding pleasure in the misfortune of others" not quite the same as sadism in which you inflict pain. (leave it to the Germans to come up with a word for it)
It kind of means "gleeful"
While I think many people practice Shadenfreund probably few admit it. It's a crappy thing after all. I think most people feel the same but attribute it karma
@@sharonmartin5051Depends on if you see fairness/justice in it or not. "What did they do to deserve this?" Sometimes you know.
Ernest Becker speaks to my heart. I need to open up in my relationships instead of trying to control.
Our sons moved back home after university. In order to get them to be independent, I bought a small house as an investment and rented it to them so they would know the costs. Today, they have purchased their own homes without help from us. I knew that living at home was not a good thing
Good job!
My husband and I called that the "thorns in the nest" approach.
Great idea
being independent can be achieved regardless of living at home or not, it's not a good idea for your kids to get indebted just so you can get them out of the house, also, time will come when parents will need help with every day life, and normally it's good to have the kids around to do so, rather than sticking the parents in an old peoples home
Why can't kids live at home?
HOW FOREIGN AND COLD to put " thorns in the nest.
My brother and his wife had 4 kids living with my parents, my married kids all live in our neighborhood, by choice, they want to be close to family.
My son is in trade school and lives at home, my daughter works and lives at home. Why would we make them leave? They are happy here and can save money and enjoy family.
My married kids and there spouses come over all the time just to hang out or to eat dinner.
That's a family.
That's normal.
Boy, Nick you really nailed this one in so far as living at home as an adult. Anxiety compulsiveness .Ive been there. It could really mess with you head.
Thank you for another stellar analysis and deep dive into Rex Heuermann’s psychology.
I now truly comprehend the many perplexities of this case through your thorough understanding and teachings of the human psyche and how it relates to RH’s sadism.
Also, Ernest Becker’s teachings are extremely important to learn and appreciate, especially in today’s society.
Yes to more psychological deep dives! 🚀🚀
Thanks! Nick this is fantastic. Safe travels home and thank you for taking the time to get together in Boulder. It just made me respect you more ❤
Awesome! Thank you!
Not for the faint-hearted ol' Ernest. The Denial of Death shook my bones 20-odd years ago. Great insights and a big thumbs up for more in-depth stuff 👍
Good morning, thank you for your perspective , I think you are right on
_Please do_ continue to discuss self esteem 🙏
I often wondered if that belt is what they used to whip him as a child.
Yes please continue. This is fascinating and you are so insightful.
Edmund Kemper comes to mind.
There were sure some momma issues there!
Many damaged adults do not leave their parents home not bec dictatorial parent but because the young person has a defect, often inherited. Some forms of autism also do this to the young person, regardless of their parents
And even if they leave the home they keep that parent in their mind.
My mother was a domineering narcissist. As an adult, I was constantly trying to move out of the house. I was successful twice, but ultimately ended up co buying a big home with her. She had wanted me to stay with her my whole life. She passed in 2002.
But, you didn't become a psycho killer...Mother wanted to be close to you - to protect you...
@@stormdancer25Amen🙏
I understand your side of it in your situation, but many mothers have good intentions🙏💛
I believe everything you said, the silent abuse that no one in the extended family will admit to the abuser.
I think he might have been whipped with a belt by his father. He was always shoplifting and his father used to punish him. People were always saying that he had a very strained relationship with his father.
Wonder why he was shoplifting?
So interesting. Brilliant food for thought. 🏴
What you describe is Schadenfreude, not sadism.
@jaredpeterson380 rather it's
'downward social comparison' from social psychology
Isn't that a great concept and I think very real . But actually those that believe in karma openly admit it and smply say "that's karma."
Thank you very much for doing these psychological studies! You do a terrific job that is very understandable, logical, insightful and helpful for understanding humanity/society, which is refreshing!
I love your passion for analysis of the grit below the surface! 🤔
I love the angles that you look at things from. This deep dive into the psychological aspects kind of lifts away the heaviness of what would be an otherwise dark and depressing topic. The psychological insights that also relate to life and self-esteem are very enlightening and interesting to listen to! You’re good at presenting that aspect, so why not do more!!! 🤗
This has been my favorite channel for deep dives!
Absolutely, it is the most important part of the conversation.
I wonder if at any time during the torture, he felt empty, souless empty.
Nick - this is great and look forward to your analysis. Yes please do more.
Thanks, Nick !
So much of ourselves exist in a dark recess,out of reach and an obstinate desire not to know,clouding from ourselves the meaning of our behaviours. To begin to understand our nightmares or alternatively live one is the journey into self awareness. Our fascination of those who abandon themselves to their darkness is a step into the theatre of our own psychology is an attempt to turn the foyer lights on.
Thank You and More please. I will go and watch the self-esteem videos now!
Love this. Would love part 5 deeper dive
Great job on this psychological aspect of the killer.
You hinted at possibly a deep dive into RH having a necrophilic personality. I sure hope you do! I'm not sure I understand what that is but would love to hear your opinion.
7:30 "One of the top architects in the country ..." ummmmmm nope. What a wierd thing to say. He got himself a niche = getting old new york buildings through codes and inspection stuff after the Disabilities Act was passed. That doesn't make him I.M. Pei.
Indeed, it’s unhelpful hyperbole.
I wonder if this was Heuerman’s description of himself?
Finally! Thank you. He was moderately successful. He was not talented.
Really fascinating. I appreciate your stellar insight, would love an additional deep dive. thank you.
Do the 3rd installment on self esteem. I’ve been waiting. Its interesting.
Loneliness is anxiety, this could only be exacerbated living as an adult at a parents. Reminds me of Ed Gein, living with his mother. She was a bit of a kook if I recall correctly, filling his head from a young age with religious fervour and "all women are prostitutes or possessed by the devil..." With RH you can add that (controlling parent) to school malarkey, its just a matter of time really. He wasn't quite right to begin with. He was never going to be an accomplished architect, in the same way he could not be an organised killer that evaded detection.
Gr8 analysis though I believe arrested development generally rather than regression,exacerbated by abandonment issues..1993-1st wife n mother left.etc.Thanks for covering this extensive case with a multitude of layers over years.
I want the self esteem stuff please
Raising kids over here
Glad you went deeper!! This series has been fascinating
Thank you Nick! Wow, you deliver such solid, useful, and enlightening material. Such a gift. Many thanks. You never disappoint. I really appreciate You.
Wow, thank you!
Please continue your series on self asteem! It IS the most important conversation, and you brought it up when I needed to hear it the most. Thank you TCRS❤
I have wanted to watch this all day. Didn't get the chance until now. Is bedtime. Hopefully I will not have nightmare. Thank you. I love the way you present things without the fluff and flutter. I enjoy this channel alot.
Brilliant Nick...and yes you do know a hell of a lot.😊
Hear, Hear!!! It is the MOST IMPORTANT conversation!! Kudos to you for this being emphasized!
Well done, Nick. You move from the specific to the general with seamless documentation.
This was a great analysis and I would really enjoy to hear more of your thoughts on this case. I always learn something about human psychology on your deep dives. Thank you
PLEASE continue the self esteem deep dives! I’ve been studying Henry VIII and wow, what a lightbulb moment connection hearing this. Thank you! Wish I’d heard this before I had kids.
Yes due to internet we.now.know so much more about human behavior.
That is a hoarder house, not cluttered as the news described it. I am surprised code enforcement hasn't shuttered that house.
This is the kind of stuff I’m here for.
Yes Nick, please continue. It gives me the motivation to check in with myself and see what kind of life I’m living and how it’s expanded, shrunk or stayed the same. 🙏
Yes, let's please go further with investigating the psychodynamics of Heuerrmann. Also, Becker's assertion that we can all add to the formation of our own self-esteem is not without limitations. Certainly the parents or initial home of the newborn have the strong hand in its early formation and foundation. The personality of the young individual at birth and during early formative years interplays with the early home and then educational/school and friendship influences, Thank you. Enjoy Manhattan!
Fantastic thought provoking analysis Nick, the dots are joining up.
please do more deep dives!
I'll take whatever you're laying down Nick when it comes to self esteem!❤
Whar an incredible analysis!! Keep going, Nick please.
Thanks, will do!
This Heurmann thing has really frightened me-possibly because I’m just days out from a tough surgery. This piece has really helped me process my feeling of vulnerability and maybe help me stop some of the intrusive thoughts regarding the Heurmann case. Thank you.
OMG I learn so much from you Nick.
Really informative psychological input. More please!
Really good psychological breakdown! Thanks for explaining this, it does make perfect sense. You need more hits on this video.
Loved it, great information much needed in the world today. A deeper dive into the psychology gy would be awesome. thank you.
The topic of self esteem is interesting.
Yes go into H.’s psychology.
Please don't worry about other channels. I find your analysis very interesting. You present some different views of the situation which I think are very relevant. Thank you.
This was an amazing analysis
You are spot on with the " humanity" piece. Our society is losing sight of that sadly...
Gacy lived with his mother for a time
Fascinating stuff. Really crazy how in that interview Rex said he’d learned how to “deal” with people. He apparently believes that. That’s one sick puppy alright!
I think all of us with careers need to learn how to deal with the people we meet in said.profession. That's just so we can prosper and realizing not all folks are easy.
Hi, I believe you are 100% correct
Only 100? ;-)
The videos on self esteem are excellent! I could listen for hours. Yes it is everything.
I'd be very interested to hear from female employees from his company, how they related to him and vice versa, how socially adept he was, what he was like to work with to meet deadlines, achieve shared project aims, etc. Because as the business owner and their employer, he had power in the relationship dynamics. Did he abuse it? Was he one of the team? Be interesting to know. They're probably all in shock unfortunately.
What a great decoding! Makes great sense. And I'm really taking this general life advice deeply as well.
The criticism factor.. I have a lot of work to do. Going forth now, into the unknown. Cheers!
It's a conversation (self esteem) that's avoided by many. I'm extremely interested. I was raised indoctrinated and you are SO RIGHT.
My dad was an architect and lectured at a top university. First thing I said when I saw the ramshackle pandokkie was “he can’t be an architect”. Probably a draft person from a college?
I think this is the best video of yours I've ever heard. 👏 👏 👏
The cost of living, the cost of housing is astronomical. More households have become polygenerational for existential reasons. Reluctant to infer nefarious implications in Hueremann's living in his mother's house.
English please
Good morning, Nick. You’re up early as always.
Morning!
What a tragedy. So sad.
The analogy about the victim/paintting makes me wonder if that is why the painting of the woman with the bruised face was in his house.
I love this deep dive. It is as painful as liberating! Here i grow my horizons! And like me i'm sure others find knowledge and freedom in your work. Thanks you so much.
Love Nic’s analysis / it’s like you’re a psychologist / so insightful
Nick... i ran out of time to listen just now... but i will be back. Your insights are very deep and thoughtful.
Schadenfraude. I would enjoy a deep dive 5. I appreciate your understanding and analysis of this deeply wounded man.
Love listening to your in-depth analysis. Have you seen the news today about Rex Heuermann's daughters paintings? They depict dismembered and disembowelled women, really horrific images some hinting at previous victims.