@TCRS Exactly. I agree. That's so important for people to remember when they're thinking, so what, everybody gets bullied, etc. Not everybody experiences the same combination of events.
The fact that you are in fact cerebral, and existential and challenging, is the very thing which makes you so appealing and the most authentic voice in true crime. Many of us would not have you any other way. Thank you 🙏.
I think it's both sadism and pornography plus a giving in to a base nature. We want to find a cause because finding a cause comforts us. To think that something happened to him that made him this way elicits sympathy or empathy when in reality he made choices and fed his thrill of power and violation over the helpless. Or/and He is mentally ill therefore we can not fully wrap our brains around his psycpothy. - Thankfully
@@Vcagle30I don’t think Rene was arguing against a cause… I think Rene was suggesting that the cause may be something that is pointed INWARDLY at himself rather than outwardly at others. And, that it may be something healthy minds won’t understand… but all were suggestions. Anyway, that’s how I read it but I’m not very sure if any of us will certainly figure him out.. maybe Nick has at least a decent shot at it- but without actually interviewing him or evaluating his own words from therapy transcripts, it’s probably a half-educated guess at best. Half because imo the other half that is missing is Rex’s own words on the subject. Nevertheless, I believe this is a worthwhile exercise for the cerebral activity and interesting topics alone. I LOVE following along with Nick at the helm.
That would bother me much less if the occupants were old - seen that a lot. Also starting to feel unable to keep up myself. But 4 relatively able-bodied adults? That is a red flag 🚩 all on its own.
What I value most about you, Nick, is your ability to delve into, and differentiate, the workings of the mind. You research history's greatest thinkers and dissect their philosophies, and are also unafraid to unlock the theories of psychologists that are worth anything. So, thank you for all of it, Nick. Thanks for helping satiate my undying hunger for mental stimulation.
The most condescending voice?...sometimes a quite defensive voice...but thankyou for bringing us along, Nick. Your intelligence, and your dedication to producing thought provoking content is noticed and appreciated .🙏🏻
Nick, I've never found your voice irritating, in fact I enjoy listening. The defensiveness is there sometimes though...when it seems Nick is feeling underappreciated, doubting that his listeners are really with him on his long analyses and deep dives. It always makes me unhappy when I hear youtubers, who give so much of themselves, feeling they need to defend themselves against their viewers criticisms.
I think when someone does something this extreme - they are aware of the monstrousness and part of their motive is consciously to do something that is monstrous to most people. And they feel power from that. I imagine him in minor work based conflict situations or even driving disputes where he's comforting himself by thinking...you don't know what I'm capable of, you don't know what power I hold. And it bucked him up, made him feel better. But then the memories of exerting that power faded, and it was time for another one. It would be interesting to track the attacks against the timeline of petty disappointments in his life (lost work contracts, big tax bill, car damaged in a minor knock - that kind of thing).
Lack of basic fulfillment. “It’s the reason you wake up everyday feeling good about your life or yourself or the reason you wake up inexplicably feeling miserable”. Love it.
I think being bullied trapped in his own thoughts,losing his father early no role model’s,yearning to be liked,his only escape his own mind that took him down a dark path and ultimately Rex will show the world what he is capable of all be it total destruction and annihilation resulting in him feeling euphoric and powerful.
Thank you for treating such a brutal subject with so delicate a cerebral empathy. And Timmy as the text book example is the icing on the cake! Without this channel, the 'true crime' arena would be a far less civilised arena. No requirement to hustle for the mass subs, Nick. Your work speaks for itself.
Thank you Nick . Maslow's hierarchy of needs has been something I thought a lot about after learning it. I would sort of assess myself on that scale.. Rex's place on Maslow' s scale is truly sad. To not have any friends is tragic. I hope the teachers and administrators at his high school feel some remorse for not intervening on his behalf. Thanks again.
My grandmother confided in me later in life that my mom would leave me in my playpen by myself for long periods of time. My grandma would step in and pick me up and play with me. Of course that was only when she was visiting. It was disturbing for me to learn this, but not surprised. 😢
Maybe your grandma lied to you. Maybe your mother was loving. Maybe your grandma was jealous of your mother and wanted to tarnish your memories of your mother. Everything you hear and see is not always true.
Even if you do the self esteem stuff just for a few listeners … it will be helpful to just us … I’ve got three girls and I work with little kids as my job … I’ll use the info I learn from you to build up and edify the little ones and my daughters … I promise … thank you
I think what you are doing is very important Nick. It has to be known what makes someone like Rex tick. Why someone like him goes get he does. Thank you for your continued intellectual t try thought provoking analysis of him. Thanks for your hard work!! All of your followers appreciate that about you.
Yea I get SO SICK AND TIRED of true crime people always going ON AND ON with the usual "but I was rejected I was this or that or that or this" (choose whatever occurred in the story) and "somehow I didn't end up a killer or an abuser" 🙄🤮🤡 SERIOUSLY?!? Wow! Those people are the type who can't critically think nor put themselves OUTSIDE of the situation. Nope it's too important THEY feel so much more superior and better than others. And shows the killer was born insane and awful and never deserved any good thing. On and on. I'm sure many of know what I mean 🙄 it's EVERYWHERE in true crime comments! They can't even be detective or think like one yet somehow they think they're Sherlock and assume soooo much from a simple look or sentence and they've got it solved! Yore the ONLY CHANNEL that addresses this silliness and ignorance many times in many videos I LOVE IT!! Mini rant over 🖤💀
Thanks for breaking it down for me… simple minded and learning has always been difficult for me… but I have learned about life issues because of you Nick. Thanks be to The God for you!
Excellent analysis. Was it one day when he decided to act on his fantasies…much like the day a husband decides to act on his cheating fantasies. Then, when that line is crossed, he may as well do whatever he wants. I didn’t used to believe in demons but, in cases like this, it just makes me wonder.
I think you HAVE to have a psychological disconnect to begin with to even think about the atrocities that Heuermann has committed. I mean to torture women and dismember them is just pure evil and depraved at another level of crazy…
I guess it takes a certain personality type, the depravations and humiliations and no self esteem to make such a cruel sadist. Very interesting views, thank you for your efforts
The psychological aspect of any case is the crux of the whole thing. The "why"? If we know why we can learn and create positive outcomes in future society instead of the horror of these cases. Thank you for exploring this in detail and screw the naysayers - they choose to be shallow and unwilling to learn. #amazonhasnicksbooks
That's interesting about compensatory aggressions. Obviously I knew about aggression coming from violence done to oneself or in front of oneself, but I hadn't realized deprivation created this. It makes sense. I am sure that Heuermann did not get what he needed from parents as a child or young adult, and that caused his personality development to be stunted. He missed the window of relating well to other humans and it closed up. Even when some HS kids (unusually) tried to include him at a few points, he was not able to respond and turned them down. It was too late. Only massive therapeutic intervention might have saved him from becoming a killer, and even then there are no guarantees.
You could easily substitute babies in the place of a pet. They cry/insist on being fed, changed and held. Otherwise they suffer emotional deprivation. 😢
one of the reasons i shy away from your longer analyst is my disposition to dealing with this stuff. Like many, i'm fascinated by these crimes. but i don't have anywhere near the passion or fortitude you have, Nick. i enjoy your views and you are very interactive with your audience. I'll leave it there for now.
Sadism, just look at the passage of Becker Nick underlined and wrote "wow" and 'Rex" in the margin 5:28. Everything in his life was viewed through the twisted lens of sadism.
Nick - always much like listening to your views. Lots of different angles you bring forth as causes of this horrific behavior. Still hard for me to fully understand given so much normal and positive in his life. In family had a brother and two sisters with the sisters no mention of problems so ok seems there in the family structure. Rex able to focus to get through college and graduate with a degree in architecture. Then to find a business need for his skills in the big city of NY. Setting up a company structure and finding an office location. Hiring employees and having the business successful and active employment for all his workers. All this requiring a lot of focus and time consuming. Yes some problems with Rex paying taxes and the maybe contrived auto accidents mentioned. And then dating in early 20s and having a girlfriend that goes onto marry. Then finding another relationship and getting married and having daughter that too graduates from college. But all this mainly good normal behavior still a psychopathic serial torturer and killer - the very top of all evilness. Bulling in school bad but think more to come out with parents and the never to understand what percent is related to a bad twisted dna setup that born with and not able to change.
Michael, lots of good points/ connections raised here. I, too have been thinking of some of these. One thing, we've heard some of RH's home life & troubles, we've heard that he was bullied through middle & high school - all contributing whether positively or negatively, to his "psyche" and "agency". Yet, we've heard NOTHING (that I have seen), about his uni/ college life. MANY folks who don't "fit in" throughout their lives, find their niches in uni/ college (I both lived-in and then worked-in management of uni residences, for 10 years, and dealt with lots of shit during that time, as kids became adults), and I saw MANY socially-inept/ truly elsewhere-deemed "weirdos", find "their group" at that time. I wonder what happened at/ in college/ uni, and has that assisted him in accomplishing all of those things you listed, and ALSO contributed to the "ogre" he became? One thing, though, his fame-level (infamy), has at least equaled that of Billy Baldwin - even if for the wrong reasons, and RH, too, is receiving attention & energy from the public... Cheers!
@@kgrant3184 hi - i grew up on Long Island too like Rex. A few yrs older than Rex. I too was bullied in school. The “in” crowd in school lived in big designer type older homes near the water. I was in a project home. Father was in military for 20 yrs so like Rex’s father so a lot of discipline. Didn’t have the money for the clothes “Ralph Lauren type for those days” to hang out with the ‘in” crowd. No girlfriend or going to the prom. Mother died from cancer as a teenager so like Rex losing a parent at young age. Yet like most all no real issues later in life. All issues from HS years, after graduation, not at all on mind as focused on work and other good things in life. A lot here on Rex being a serial killer from childhood family problems and being bullied. This i think is minor - much always on “nature vs nurture” theory on the way a persons characteristics are formed - i think is nature and so some extreme deviate brain prewiring into Rex. Maybe some more to come out on other “nurture” factors effecting him but still this murderous twisted awfulness to other humans is not just some extreme bullying.
@@michael-qp9xd Hi Michael, thank you for your detailed reply. I've been out working all day and am dead-tired, so need to re-read to reply to your excellent points. Back tmrw or next day. Cheers!
Excellent analysis of the individual components of abnormal behaviours n arousals that fuse with aggression of a terminal kind to crystallise and form this character to that of the ogre per se...ty as always n xs n high 5 to timmy...xxx...
Is it possible to develop self esteem without having love and acceptance? Maslow thinks not. My first thought is that his degree and profession are held in high esteem- and most people get a lot of their pride from either holding a status occupation or at least doing your job well (all jobs are needed, and therefore hold dignity imo). If having a wife and child fulfill that need, would there be a slowing or cessation of the sadism? The dates of known murders might suggest that. Would that love ever fill a gaping 30 yr wide hole? Thanks for the mental protein boost. Lots to think on besides LISK- my childhood and my motherhood must be analyzed too. You are absolutely the most cerebral of all my follows- including the psycologists and archaeologists who water it all down. You assume we are smart instead of uneducated. I love that and will always respect you for it.
Is it possible to develop self esteem without having love and acceptance? >>>Yes, but it's not easy, and the process in a way never ends. Watch the movie Gattaca for additional answers in choosing standards and an identity that you think you are worth. It can be done but requires immense effort.
Sadism by far. However, if the sexual sadist portion is never shown/displayed (in pron), then people wouldn't see it as a possibility or as a valid line of thought. The fact that others do it, validates his inner and darkest thoughts. It's not just me, my thoughts are ok.
Thanks, Nick, very interesting. SOMETHING/S must have happened to him - at SOME point, to have him become such a killer. The totality of the "psyche" - including the spiritual - elements are absolutely fundamental to understanding. Suggestion: please cover anything you can find on his UNI/ COLLEGE years/ experiences. From my own many years in un/ around uni-residences (both living, then professional work), MANY "weird" folks find their niche/ group in uni/ college. At the very least, the academic or other prowess usually finds respect - for even the most immature/ non-sporty, etc. types out there (from my direct observations & experiences over 10 yrs). I am also interested in the WHY, regarding the targets being women who have essentially ZERO chance of fighting back - young, physically small, in a "disposable" lifetime in a despised/ judged/ totally-looked DOWN upon "profession", so disenfranchised/ "bad girls", etc. Are they a mirror for what was done to HIM, when he was commensurately small, by a very big adult? His "preferred" targets communicate more than just targetting sex workers in general. Also, another avenue of research is the military - his father was in WW2 or some other war (?), and then, didn't you say that he worked in the Aerospace industry? MK ULTRA mind-control programs and weaponized humans COME from children whose parents/ fathers were associated with the military and the spin-off companies. Was RH somehow ALSO targetted in this way, and "trained"/ created to respond so anti-socially, as some of the other serial killers have been? Further, do we have any info on the relative size of his mother to RH, and his father's size as well? RH's father was alive until he was 11. Did something happen to RH (s3xual assault), when he was equivalently little, compared to some big human, and was it a female? There has to be a REASON he is going after similar targets. He's not taking on a 6'2" female MMA fighter, who might have a reasonable chance against him, now, is he? He is picking targets that pretty-well GUARANTEE satiation of whatever urges are behind his sex & blood-lust, that guarantee RH's SUCCESS. Again, that film about the Swedish serial r@pists in a family, who also killed/ violated female victims according Old Testament (bloody, gory) Biblical punishments - always upon females, where the father TRAINED & involved his son, that film comes to mind (but not the name, alas). The film had Daniel Craig, Rumi (?) Mara, Christopher Plummer, etc. in it. Given the fact that Victoria seems to have an EXTREMELY MACBRE "bent" in her interests and "art", maybe her DAD was also raised/ conditioned by HIS dad, to have the same, that RH is just "passing it on"? Very much appreciate your thought-provoking vids. Cheers!
@@patedwards8844 True, and since they're cowards, they usually bully in packs/ gangs, against ONE lone person. I believe that Nick said that most of the most torturous bullying occurred by MALES upon him. So, what caused RH to choose small FEMALES as targets, and not small MALES? I find this curious, though I agree about bullies picking those who cannot defend themselves.
@@patedwards8844 I'm sure they did. But, that does not explain his specific targetting of a SPECIFIC type of female in response. One would think that he'd target male s3x workers - who he was likely ALSO much bigger/ stronger-than, and harm THEM instead - unless that was abhorrent to him. I find it thus far inexplicable, and rather "interesting". Not to be insensitive to the victims/ seriousness of the crimes, but, Cheers (to you)!
Hey Nick...apparently Rex would invite his women employees to go hunting w/ him...wondering if his wife n daughter were away at those times as well? Shout out to you Nick for your hard work n superior content. Stay awesome! xo
You know, he looks like 'Leatherface', the character portrayed by Gunner Hansen in the infamous 1974 horror film Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And Leatherface the character was loosely based on Ed Gein, the unassuming Wisconsin guy who started by digging his dead mother up in the graveyard, and when arrested was found with a woman strung up by her ankles in his barn, that he'd gutted like an animal.
Yikes! Never watched those movies - figure there's enough evil in real life to deal with. Quite the visual picture you created. Maybe RH modelled himself on that character/ real life guy. Ugh.
Off this subject at hand, Chris Watts wife stuffed his self esteem terribly. Thusly he harbored a deep hate , a resentment towards her as well as “ her “ children. I need to watch your Watts video
It seems he was together enough to become a well respected architect what was his education post HS. College? Grad school? Tech school? Life prior to marriage 🤔
I don't think it's sexual deprivation. He had a wife and two kids and seemed to have plenty of money to pick up prostitutes. That isn't what was missing.
I really doubt Rex was created by being bullied in school. His psychology is not really of a type of school Shotr. He was way more involved AND highly EVOLVED. Kids were tougher back then. I also don't think his mother coddled him and THAT could have played into his obsession. ( Maybe a little bit of Ed Kemper but Sadistic Hannibal Lecture with a dash of Masochist eh? ) also, he grew up with several Skiller cases that were prime time back then. They could have influenced him. He could have had a Mentor. Also, he focused on a certain time frame both in his life with his Guns and in his work. He specialized in 18-1900th century Architecture. He was an expert in that era. He was a high profile fixer for New Yorks Elites building needs. He was the guy who got you permits when it was nearly impossible to get it done. (Remember Victoria's searches for those types of torture)?) That surely is no coincidence. He TOOK control early on. Ithink.
I really doubt Rex was created by being bullied in school. >>>Interesting. Your theory is that out of nowhere he felt like killing people and found a mentor. I suppose one could also say maybe he's an alien.
He is a big man, probably was big kid and overweight. He has a speech problem. In his only interview broadcasted the other day by Bandfield, it is quite clear he has that problem with your tongue. I remember a long time ago one friend has a,surgery to cut under his tongue to get better, and it did. I bet the money I don't have he was bullied. But maybe it was a combination in his life.
The wife was submissive. That’s why he didn’t kill her. She knew about the killings and accepted it for the lifestyle. He provided her with a life different from where she came from.
I think if you had to blame one or the other, it would be sadism. But the truth is that a lot of people engage in both but never do what Rex has done. Or ever will.
I like your videos, but why all the hostility towards your viewers? Why do you care what people are obviously complaining about? Why not just stick to informative videos.
If daily aggression isn't dealt with and understood, what does it become?
Compensatory aggression, which is a whole different animal.
@TCRS Exactly. I agree. That's so important for people to remember when they're thinking, so what, everybody gets bullied, etc. Not everybody experiences the same combination of events.
I feel privileged to be listening to these podcasts.
TCRS a great episode! Only the boring are bored.......
I'm all in. Stepping into the challenge.
The fact that you are in fact cerebral, and existential and challenging, is the very thing which makes you so appealing and the most authentic voice in true crime. Many of us would not have you any other way. Thank you 🙏.
Thanks SM.
Agreed. These qualities make you singularly worth listening to.
I think it's both sadism and pornography plus a giving in to a base nature.
We want to find a cause because finding a cause comforts us. To think that something happened to him that made him this way elicits sympathy or empathy when in reality he made choices and fed his thrill of power and violation over the helpless.
Or/and He is mentally ill therefore we can not fully wrap our brains around his psycpothy. - Thankfully
@@MoparMomma There IS a cause, even if that cause is not understood, even if that cause involves the individual agency of Rex.
@@Vcagle30I don’t think Rene was arguing against a cause… I think Rene was suggesting that the cause may be something that is pointed INWARDLY at himself rather than outwardly at others. And, that it may be something healthy minds won’t understand… but all were suggestions. Anyway, that’s how I read it but I’m not very sure if any of us will certainly figure him out.. maybe Nick has at least a decent shot at it- but without actually interviewing him or evaluating his own words from therapy transcripts, it’s probably a half-educated guess at best. Half because imo the other half that is missing is Rex’s own words on the subject.
Nevertheless, I believe this is a worthwhile exercise for the cerebral activity and interesting topics alone. I LOVE following along with Nick at the helm.
Compensatory aggression, punishing others for what's been done to you.... Hurt people, hurt people and then hurt people, hurt people
Although we have been discussing this man for a year now, and the case forever, it's still hard for me to comprehend what happened those poor girls.
It is shocking what a dump their home is in such a nice neighborhood!
That would bother me much less if the occupants were old - seen that a lot. Also starting to feel unable to keep up myself. But 4 relatively able-bodied adults? That is a red flag 🚩 all on its own.
Even worse inside 😱
Sadism is what drives his dysfunction, I believe and that leads to his urges and decisions.
What I value most about you, Nick, is your ability to delve into, and differentiate, the workings of the mind. You research history's greatest thinkers and dissect their philosophies, and are also unafraid to unlock the theories of psychologists that are worth anything. So, thank you for all of it, Nick. Thanks for helping satiate my undying hunger for mental stimulation.
The most condescending voice?...sometimes a quite defensive voice...but thankyou for bringing us along, Nick. Your intelligence, and your dedication to producing thought provoking content is noticed and appreciated .🙏🏻
Don't forget irritating.
Where do you get 'defensive '?
Nick, I've never found your voice irritating, in fact I enjoy listening. The defensiveness is there sometimes though...when it seems Nick is feeling underappreciated, doubting that his listeners are really with him on his long analyses and deep dives. It always makes me unhappy when I hear youtubers, who give so much of themselves, feeling they need to defend themselves against their viewers criticisms.
I think when someone does something this extreme - they are aware of the monstrousness and part of their motive is consciously to do something that is monstrous to most people. And they feel power from that. I imagine him in minor work based conflict situations or even driving disputes where he's comforting himself by thinking...you don't know what I'm capable of, you don't know what power I hold. And it bucked him up, made him feel better. But then the memories of exerting that power faded, and it was time for another one. It would be interesting to track the attacks against the timeline of petty disappointments in his life (lost work contracts, big tax bill, car damaged in a minor knock - that kind of thing).
Lack of basic fulfillment. “It’s the reason you wake up everyday feeling good about your life or yourself or the reason you wake up inexplicably feeling miserable”. Love it.
I had very low self esteem in school. I never reached out & never thought or expected anyone to like me.
This conversation is so important
I think being bullied trapped in his own thoughts,losing his father early no role model’s,yearning to be liked,his only escape his own mind that took him down a dark path and ultimately Rex will show the world what he is capable of all be it total destruction and annihilation resulting in him feeling euphoric and powerful.
He “ got stuck” instead of moving on and out of it
Sadism seems prominent to me
Maybe he was just dropped there for his father, no interest, bullied with no one to defend him, total rejection, he is sadistic
NOT DULL !! NOT WEIRD !! NOT BORING !! Thanks for insisting on understanding. I want to read Becker.
Kudos. JennFrykman Oregon USA
Thank you for treating such a brutal subject with so delicate a cerebral empathy.
And Timmy as the text book example is the icing on the cake!
Without this channel, the 'true crime' arena would be a far less civilised arena.
No requirement to hustle for the mass subs, Nick. Your work speaks for itself.
It is not purely what happens in your life it how you handle it
The most authentic and cerebral voice and community in true crime, indeed! Love it 👍
Still new but absolutely love your deepest dives!!! I am a prior Psychotherapist.
Wow, good to have you here!
Thank you Nick . Maslow's hierarchy of needs has been something I thought a lot about after learning it. I would sort of assess myself on that scale.. Rex's place on Maslow' s scale is truly sad. To not have any friends is tragic. I hope the teachers and administrators at his high school feel some remorse for not intervening on his behalf. Thanks again.
Great insights Nick!
It may be genetic and environment together to create a personality
My grandmother confided in me later in life that my mom would leave me in my playpen by myself for long periods of time. My grandma would step in and pick me up and play with me. Of course that was only when she was visiting. It was disturbing for me to learn this, but not surprised. 😢
Maybe your grandma lied to you. Maybe your mother was loving. Maybe your grandma was jealous of your mother and wanted to tarnish your memories of your mother. Everything you hear and see is not always true.
Even if you do the self esteem stuff just for a few listeners … it will be helpful to just us … I’ve got three girls and I work with little kids as my job … I’ll use the info I learn from you to build up and edify the little ones and my daughters … I promise … thank you
I think what you are doing is very important Nick. It has to be known what makes someone like Rex tick. Why someone like him goes get he does. Thank you for your continued intellectual t try thought provoking analysis of him. Thanks for your hard work!! All of your followers appreciate that about you.
Sadism is to blame. You dont go to those places in pron if youre not thinking about it a little
As well, people who aren't sadists are repelled by it.
Yes, it's a turn on our not viscerally
Yea sure thing you got it all figured out, that's the only thing it is 🙄🤣 listen to what he says better....seriously 🤡
Yea I get SO SICK AND TIRED of true crime people always going ON AND ON with the usual "but I was rejected I was this or that or that or this" (choose whatever occurred in the story) and "somehow I didn't end up a killer or an abuser" 🙄🤮🤡
SERIOUSLY?!? Wow! Those people are the type who can't critically think nor put themselves OUTSIDE of the situation. Nope it's too important THEY feel so much more superior and better than others. And shows the killer was born insane and awful and never deserved any good thing.
On and on. I'm sure many of know what I mean 🙄 it's EVERYWHERE in true crime comments!
They can't even be detective or think like one yet somehow they think they're Sherlock and assume soooo much from a simple look or sentence and they've got it solved!
Yore the ONLY CHANNEL that addresses this silliness and ignorance many times in many videos I LOVE IT!!
Mini rant over 🖤💀
I'm enjoying your site for the deeper psychological explanation of criminals. You have a very unique take on criminality. Thanks
Thanks for breaking it down for me… simple minded and learning has always been difficult for me… but I have learned about life issues because of you Nick. Thanks be to The God for you!
My ex is a phyopath, they are born that way their brain are developed different. They also have families of them.. from my experience
Excellent analysis. Was it one day when he decided to act on his fantasies…much like the day a husband decides to act on his cheating fantasies. Then, when that line is crossed, he may as well do whatever he wants. I didn’t used to believe in demons but, in cases like this, it just makes me wonder.
This intro is bad ass! Brilliant, excellent graphics and song choice! 👍🏽👌🏽🧠🧐🤔 Super well done
Matthew 5:21
You shall not murder, Anyone who murders is subject to judgment 🔥
I think you HAVE to have a psychological disconnect to begin with to even think about the atrocities that Heuermann has committed. I mean to torture women and dismember them is just pure evil and depraved at another level of crazy…
He viewed them as Objects not humans
@@jacquelinedangelo46That is a really important point.
I guess it takes a certain personality type, the depravations and humiliations and no self esteem to make such a cruel sadist.
Very interesting views, thank you for your efforts
The psychological aspect of any case is the crux of the whole thing. The "why"? If we know why we can learn and create positive outcomes in future society instead of the horror of these cases.
Thank you for exploring this in detail and screw the naysayers - they choose to be shallow and unwilling to learn.
#amazonhasnicksbooks
The biggest elemental difference between Baldwin and he is the home life, background, nurturing
That's interesting about compensatory aggressions. Obviously I knew about aggression coming from violence done to oneself or in front of oneself, but I hadn't realized deprivation created this. It makes sense. I am sure that Heuermann did not get what he needed from parents as a child or young adult, and that caused his personality development to be stunted. He missed the window of relating well to other humans and it closed up. Even when some HS kids (unusually) tried to include him at a few points, he was not able to respond and turned them down. It was too late. Only massive therapeutic intervention might have saved him from becoming a killer, and even then there are no guarantees.
It's Father's Day here in America.
Utilizing Maslow's work is brilliant. And to answer the question in your title here, I answer sadism.
the horrible and sick combo of both, I'm sure!
I would say sadism would be more damaging.
Thank you! Very informative.
Thank you for breaking it down for me. I appreciate your work.
You could easily substitute babies in the place of a pet. They cry/insist on being fed, changed and held. Otherwise they suffer emotional deprivation. 😢
Thank you.
How was his relationship with his father. Didn't the hammer belong to his father?
Maybe his family said you can't fight back because you will severely hurt them because your so big . So he was paralyzed to stand up for himself
First time I've heard this/ didn't think of this myself. Good thought/ catch!
The sexual element is power = boost of self esteem, controlling another
one of the reasons i shy away from your longer analyst is my disposition to dealing with this stuff. Like many, i'm fascinated by these crimes. but i don't have anywhere near the passion or fortitude you have, Nick. i enjoy your views and you are very interactive with your audience. I'll leave it there for now.
It's understandable. It can be a lot, or even too much to digest. Be kind to yourself
We appreciate the cerebral Nick
Thank you. Your content is so interesting.
I appreciate that!
Sadism, just look at the passage of Becker Nick underlined and wrote "wow" and 'Rex" in the margin 5:28. Everything in his life was viewed through the twisted lens of sadism.
Forbes said today that there are 450 suspected serial killers out there🤔
Nick - always much like listening to your views. Lots of different angles you bring forth as causes of this horrific behavior. Still hard for me to fully understand given so much normal and positive in his life. In family had a brother and two sisters with the sisters no mention of problems so ok seems there in the family structure. Rex able to focus to get through college and graduate with a degree in architecture. Then to find a business need for his skills in the big city of NY. Setting up a company structure and finding an office location. Hiring employees and having the business successful and active employment for all his workers. All this requiring a lot of focus and time consuming. Yes some problems with Rex paying taxes and the maybe contrived auto accidents mentioned. And then dating in early 20s and having a girlfriend that goes onto marry. Then finding another relationship and getting married and having daughter that too graduates from college. But all this mainly good normal behavior still a psychopathic serial torturer and killer - the very top of all evilness. Bulling in school bad but think more to come out with parents and the never to understand what percent is related to a bad twisted dna setup that born with and not able to change.
Michael, lots of good points/ connections raised here. I, too have been thinking of some of these. One thing, we've heard some of RH's home life & troubles, we've heard that he was bullied through middle & high school - all contributing whether positively or negatively, to his "psyche" and "agency".
Yet, we've heard NOTHING (that I have seen), about his uni/ college life. MANY folks who don't "fit in" throughout their lives, find their niches in uni/ college (I both lived-in and then worked-in management of uni residences, for 10 years, and dealt with lots of shit during that time, as kids became adults), and I saw MANY socially-inept/ truly elsewhere-deemed "weirdos", find "their group" at that time.
I wonder what happened at/ in college/ uni, and has that assisted him in accomplishing all of those things you listed, and ALSO contributed to the "ogre" he became?
One thing, though, his fame-level (infamy), has at least equaled that of Billy Baldwin - even if for the wrong reasons, and RH, too, is receiving attention & energy from the public... Cheers!
@@kgrant3184 hi - i grew up on Long Island too like Rex. A few yrs older than Rex. I too was bullied in school. The “in” crowd in school lived in big designer type older homes near the water. I was in a project home. Father was in military for 20 yrs so like Rex’s father so a lot of discipline. Didn’t have the money for the clothes “Ralph Lauren type for those days” to hang out with the ‘in” crowd. No girlfriend or going to the prom. Mother died from cancer as a teenager so like Rex losing a parent at young age. Yet like most all no real issues later in life. All issues from HS years, after graduation, not at all on mind as focused on work and other good things in life. A lot here on Rex being a serial killer from childhood family problems and being bullied. This i think is minor - much always on “nature vs nurture” theory on the way a persons characteristics are formed - i think is nature and so some extreme deviate brain prewiring into Rex. Maybe some more to come out on other “nurture” factors effecting him but still this murderous twisted awfulness to other humans is not just some extreme bullying.
@@michael-qp9xd Hi Michael, thank you for your detailed reply. I've been out working all day and am dead-tired, so need to re-read to reply to your excellent points. Back tmrw or next day. Cheers!
Being deprived of love, attention and a positive role model will surely only lead to the thumbnail of this post!?
Yup
I love your deep dives. They offer so much insight into the human condition. I will be looking forward to your video about John Ramsey at Crime-Con.
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Excellent analysis of the individual components of abnormal behaviours n arousals that fuse with aggression of a terminal kind to crystallise and form this character to that of the ogre per se...ty as always n xs n high 5 to timmy...xxx...
Sadism.
Is it possible to develop self esteem without having love and acceptance? Maslow thinks not. My first thought is that his degree and profession are held in high esteem- and most people get a lot of their pride from either holding a status occupation or at least doing your job well (all jobs are needed, and therefore hold dignity imo).
If having a wife and child fulfill that need, would there be a slowing or cessation of the sadism? The dates of known murders might suggest that. Would that love ever fill a gaping 30 yr wide hole?
Thanks for the mental protein boost. Lots to think on besides LISK- my childhood and my motherhood must be analyzed too.
You are absolutely the most cerebral of all my follows- including the psycologists and archaeologists who water it all down. You assume we are smart instead of uneducated. I love that and will always respect you for it.
Is it possible to develop self esteem without having love and acceptance? >>>Yes, but it's not easy, and the process in a way never ends. Watch the movie Gattaca for additional answers in choosing standards and an identity that you think you are worth. It can be done but requires immense effort.
Sadism by far.
However, if the sexual sadist portion is never shown/displayed (in pron), then people wouldn't see it as a possibility or as a valid line of thought. The fact that others do it, validates his inner and darkest thoughts. It's not just me, my thoughts are ok.
I do not find the root of these murders to be the sole act of a Sadist
Some people just can't register love.....
Thanks, Nick, very interesting. SOMETHING/S must have happened to him - at SOME point, to have him become such a killer. The totality of the "psyche" - including the spiritual - elements are absolutely fundamental to understanding.
Suggestion: please cover anything you can find on his UNI/ COLLEGE years/ experiences. From my own many years in un/ around uni-residences (both living, then professional work), MANY "weird" folks find their niche/ group in uni/ college. At the very least, the academic or other prowess usually finds respect - for even the most immature/ non-sporty, etc. types out there (from my direct observations & experiences over 10 yrs).
I am also interested in the WHY, regarding the targets being women who have essentially ZERO chance of fighting back - young, physically small, in a "disposable" lifetime in a despised/ judged/ totally-looked DOWN upon "profession", so disenfranchised/ "bad girls", etc. Are they a mirror for what was done to HIM, when he was commensurately small, by a very big adult? His "preferred" targets communicate more than just targetting sex workers in general.
Also, another avenue of research is the military - his father was in WW2 or some other war (?), and then, didn't you say that he worked in the Aerospace industry? MK ULTRA mind-control programs and weaponized humans COME from children whose parents/ fathers were associated with the military and the spin-off companies. Was RH somehow ALSO targetted in this way, and "trained"/ created to respond so anti-socially, as some of the other serial killers have been?
Further, do we have any info on the relative size of his mother to RH, and his father's size as well? RH's father was alive until he was 11. Did something happen to RH (s3xual assault), when he was equivalently little, compared to some big human, and was it a female? There has to be a REASON he is going after similar targets. He's not taking on a 6'2" female MMA fighter, who might have a reasonable chance against him, now, is he? He is picking targets that pretty-well GUARANTEE satiation of whatever urges are behind his sex & blood-lust, that guarantee RH's SUCCESS.
Again, that film about the Swedish serial r@pists in a family, who also killed/ violated female victims according Old Testament (bloody, gory) Biblical punishments - always upon females, where the father TRAINED & involved his son, that film comes to mind (but not the name, alas). The film had Daniel Craig, Rumi (?) Mara, Christopher Plummer, etc. in it. Given the fact that Victoria seems to have an EXTREMELY MACBRE "bent" in her interests and "art", maybe her DAD was also raised/ conditioned by HIS dad, to have the same, that RH is just "passing it on"?
Very much appreciate your thought-provoking vids. Cheers!
Most abusers pick on someone unequally matched. Simple deduction.
@@patedwards8844 True, and since they're cowards, they usually bully in packs/ gangs, against ONE lone person.
I believe that Nick said that most of the most torturous bullying occurred by MALES upon him. So, what caused RH to choose small FEMALES as targets, and not small MALES? I find this curious, though I agree about bullies picking those who cannot defend themselves.
@@kgrant3184 the girls probably laughed along
@@patedwards8844 I'm sure they did. But, that does not explain his specific targetting of a SPECIFIC type of female in response. One would think that he'd target male s3x workers - who he was likely ALSO much bigger/ stronger-than, and harm THEM instead - unless that was abhorrent to him. I find it thus far inexplicable, and rather "interesting". Not to be insensitive to the victims/ seriousness of the crimes, but, Cheers (to you)!
Hey Nick...apparently Rex would invite his women employees to go hunting w/ him...wondering if his wife n daughter were away at those times as well? Shout out to you Nick for your hard work n superior content. Stay awesome! xo
You know, he looks like 'Leatherface', the character portrayed by Gunner Hansen in the infamous 1974 horror film Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And Leatherface the character was loosely based on Ed Gein, the unassuming Wisconsin guy who started by digging his dead mother up in the graveyard, and when arrested was found with a woman strung up by her ankles in his barn, that he'd gutted like an animal.
Yikes! Never watched those movies - figure there's enough evil in real life to deal with. Quite the visual picture you created. Maybe RH modelled himself on that character/ real life guy. Ugh.
The description is Ed Gein, who was the real life guy.
Off this subject at hand, Chris Watts wife stuffed his self esteem terribly. Thusly he harbored a deep hate , a resentment towards her as well as “ her “ children. I need to watch your Watts video
It seems he was together enough to become a well respected architect what was his education post HS. College? Grad school? Tech school? Life prior to marriage 🤔
I don't think it's sexual deprivation. He had a wife and two kids and seemed to have plenty of money to pick up prostitutes. That isn't what was missing.
Sadism first because many watch points and are not sadistic.
More a psychological foot in an emotional glove
I would imagine that they will dissect his brain after he dies and they will find abnormalities especially in the frontal lobes 🤔
I want to know how to get self esteem back / I’m interested
Do we know if Rex was baptized? Catholic? Protestant? Orthodox?
I really doubt Rex was created by being bullied in school. His psychology is not really of a type of school Shotr. He was way more involved AND highly EVOLVED. Kids were tougher back then. I also don't think his mother coddled him and THAT could have played into his obsession. ( Maybe a little bit of Ed Kemper but Sadistic Hannibal Lecture with a dash of Masochist eh? ) also, he grew up with several Skiller cases that were prime time back then. They could have influenced him. He could have had a Mentor. Also, he focused on a certain time frame both in his life with his Guns and in his work. He specialized in 18-1900th century Architecture. He was an expert in that era. He was a high profile fixer for New Yorks Elites building needs. He was the guy who got you permits when it was nearly impossible to get it done. (Remember Victoria's searches for those types of torture)?) That surely is no coincidence. He TOOK control early on. Ithink.
I really doubt Rex was created by being bullied in school. >>>Interesting. Your theory is that out of nowhere he felt like killing people and found a mentor. I suppose one could also say maybe he's an alien.
He is a big man, probably was big kid and overweight. He has a speech problem. In his only interview broadcasted the other day by Bandfield, it is quite clear he has that problem with your tongue. I remember a long time ago one friend has a,surgery to cut under his tongue to get better, and it did. I bet the money I don't have he was bullied. But maybe it was a combination in his life.
Erich Fromm everybody!
I think people can follow
The thing is Nick you get us to almost feel empathy for Rex - but he is still evil
The wife was submissive. That’s why he didn’t kill her. She knew about the killings and accepted it for the lifestyle. He provided her with a life different from where she came from.
Sadism
I think if you had to blame one or the other, it would be sadism. But the truth is that a lot of people engage in both but never do what Rex has done. Or ever will.
I think mental instability is more to blame.
Most everyone has been bullied though
At first I thought you said the most terrible voice.
Its pronounced ser-ee-bral not ser-abble (spelling cerebral)
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I like your videos, but why all the hostility towards your viewers? Why do you care what people are obviously complaining about? Why not just stick to informative videos.
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