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His history is very sad.
Some monsters are made, and some are borne evil. IMHO, I am not a professional.
I agree Kelly
Acknowledging the sadness of what happened to the young Rex Heurmann does not take away compassion for the later victims or their families. It's not a binary thought process. Perhaps if there was an intervention in the earlier bullying the killing might not have happened.
@@laurenmay2098 me either.
I just think basic kindness can go a long way.
This guy is not human .. so don’t feel bad for him .. his ability to live one life as a successful architect and another life as a man who tortured women and raped women and the chopped them up and trashed them is the most insane thing I have ever come across .. it’s fascinating but utterly disgusting and depraved .. any normal human being would feel empathy for these women instead of sniffing them out .. tins of men had domineering mothers and tons of men have had relationship problems.. been bullied to death and they never spent thousands of hours thinking and acting out this behavior
Many are bullied violently and still don't go on this path.
These freakos on U tube who are on the perps side and feel sorry for them are part of the problem !! EVERYONE has issues...MANY have had worse things happen. QUIT coddling pedophiles and pervs.
Millions. No excuse for him.
You are missing the point!!
@@cj-jr7iz what is it?
Many do.
I was bullied horrifically throughout school. I was a chubby, short girl. A boy swung a gym rope, bound with leather into my face once. They thought he'd broken my cheek bone, my nose was bleeding, and I had a huge black eye. He threatened me with a knife. At secondary school, a boy sitting behind me on the bus put his tie around my neck and put his knee into the back of my seat, and pulled as hard as he could. He strangled me. Other kids had to jump on him to stop. I couldn't talk for days. I was also subjected to the school nurse singling me out infront of all the children, showing them the contents of my lunchbox, which was no different to the other children! And then there were the taunts, daily, constant. But I have never even for one minute thought of inflicting any pain or revenge on another soul. Infact I work in my old secondary school and work so hard to help kids going through bullying.
You are a special person. I myself, would not consider what you went through as bullying, I would consider it abuse, or battering and I have a difficult time understanding how and why some of these behaviors occurred. What you went through was absolutely unforgiveable...and I wonder why the school system didn't step in??
I can tell you that I was in a small grade school (approximately 200 students), and I had a wonderful time, BUT for two semesters I was placed in another adjacent school system ( also approximately 200 students) and I was bullied in the new school by the students AND the teachers. Even then as a child, I realized that the new school system was simply out of wack. The teachers were simply as childish, or more childish as the students...
The two school systems were only approximately 10 miles apart...but they really were night and day in behaviors. My grades suffered, and I really believe that I would have dropped out by age 16...but luckily, I was returned to my original system, and...my grades immediately went up. I had no more absences, and now, as an adult I have a Master's Degree and I am on the National Statewide Honor Society...
The differences between the schools was astounding. Honestly, I can't explain how or why the difference between the two school systems could be so astounding...but the behaviors of the students AND the teachers was everything...
You both are very Strong..💪🏽🕊🦋💙🙏🏽
You made a difference thats what we need in this world.
I'm so sorry you were subjected to all that abuse. If I had been around to see any of it, I would have stopped it.
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Clutter hoarding is a trauma response
Clutter is also caused by people with disorders such as ADHD etc.
I never clutter hoarded, but I would buy a very basic jean, 2 tees, a coat, and sneakers, when I was working as a teen. I never got rid of the old ones though. I wasn't given any clothes including shoes, bras, or a winter coat from age 14. I hoarded the old clothes in case times were tough and the old would look newer than the newer stuff in time. I'm not like that anymore but I do have PTSD due to a traumatic childhood.
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Control, power, and domination are psychopathology. If Rex’s mother was described as extremely controlling and dominating I would suggest she, and possibly her husband too, contributed the psychopath genetics to Rex. It’s 50% heritable. That doesn’t mean if you inherit the genes for being a psychopath you become one. Many variable come in to play. Nowadays there are interventions for at risk children to thwart the brain deficiency that is psychopathology. Psychopaths don’t have empathy, they do have shallow emotions, but they can’t comprehend other peoples feelings.
Mk…sounds like z,ion,ism!
Psychopaths are born and shaped by their environment. The more studies they do, the more they realize nature is a stronger component. Many now argue nature is around 80% or more responsible for personality. People are born with their personality. People that get heart transplants suddenly delvop the same taste in music and food of the person they recieved the heart from. Identical twins raised by different familes have the same religious beliefs regardless of how they were raised and what religion their parents had.
Do we know his mom was "extremely controlling and dominating", whatever that would mean?
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@@beez991I agree, well said. 👏🏼
We all have a trigger, a crack in the armor, a flaw in the fabric of our lives. But not all of us break because of it, collapse under the weight of our past, bow to the pressure of everyday stresses, or fall apart because we fear how we are seen. Thank God for small favours, Nick.
We all DO NOT have the capability of slaughtering another human being !!!! Is the human race getting even MORE stupid ????????
His mother moved to Palmyra, VA (Lake Monticello), an area very close to me (Charlottesville, VA).
Many in our area, including me, believe that Heurmann is the “Rt 29 Killer” that terrorized young women in our area, starting in the mid-90’s continuing through the early 2000’s.
Rt 29 was a major traffic route, running through many rural (hunting) areas, that Heurmann would have taken on his way to visit his mother in Palmyra.
Also, it’s known that he did some contract work for a nearby Senior Living facility in Orange County, through which Rt 29 runs and is the major thoroughfare.
Someone needs to re-investigate some of the MANY Rt 29 murders and determine if THESE VICTIMS need to be added to the list of Heurmann victims.
There were 2 women whom he tried to abduct who managed to escape, and at least one of them gave a description to police, from which a police sketch was generated. She was injured when she managed to escape his moving vehicle/truck while traveling down Rt. 29. She was a VERY LUCKY young woman, indeed, to have escaped his clutches!!
P.S. I read that his mother passed away sometime around 2017-2018, so he would no longer have a need to travel to this area, UNLESS he kept her house after her death. I don’t know what happened with her home… whether it was sold or not? 🤷♀️
Agree, the sketch looks like a young Rex.
His mother is still alive, she’s 93.
The sketch for Route 29 killer looks exactly like RH - I think there are many more victims waiting to be revealed.
@@downunderveggiegardendiaries How do you know that? More info?
Very interesting.
Can't get enough of anything this channel creator has to say about this case.
Thank you for the beyond impressive and insightful lateral/psychological approach.
My mom and grandparents lived a few blocks away from Rex's house. I have pasted this house many times and always wondered why it was so run down. This neighborhood is upper middle class. It stands out.
I think it was rundown bc he didn't have a good childhood n he suffered in that house .n he bought that house bc his mom wanted him to n he did as she wanted. I think he thought the house wasn't worthy of attention and restoring. Anyway it was a house of horrors so it fits the crimes committed by him well.
All his thoughts and energies were dark fantasies, planning, dreaming, envisioning the acts he was looking forward to. No time or thought to creating a clean neat, tidy home environment
There is a house near us. No blinds are ever opened. Ever. We wonder too🇨🇦🍁
@@teresacorrigan3076We have a local mailbox stand to get our mail and then we have two weekly community papers delivered to our home. Does this house get mail or paper delivered? Do they cut the grass or shovel snow?
@@Ann-wl8up good questions. Will pay attention. It’s a neat place though
Many people have horrible and less than ideal childhood and youth. He made a choice a decision to impose and inflict himself and all his pain on others because now he had opportunity.
According to Robert Sapolsky, we have no choice.
I don't think his victims had ideal childhoods either
THANK YOU!!!!!!
Exactly! My ex was abused horribly as a child! However, they didn't turn to crime nor become a killer. I agree...it was a choice on Rex's part!
This guy has been killing since the 80s, no way In hell 93 was his first kill
Got any evidence to back that up?
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The documents seem to indicate he’s been killing for awhile.
Maybe so, maybe no. Average age for serial Killers to start is 26. When he murdered castilla, he was 29...
@@TCRS Brooklyn Butcher, a website called MurderInc has all murders near or around where rex lived and went to college.
@@nd6648yep, Ted Bundy and Brian Kohlberger.
Why did it take LE so long to do a thorough search of the house? It’s worrying to think about what evidence may have been tossed out by his wife and children in the meantime.
His wife does not clean the house even if Jesus tells her he is coming. She is not there in the head. I doubt, from all there is in me, that woman ever clean her house.
The LE was all corrupt..so they never followed the case properly!!!!!
Haha have you seen the pictures? They never threw anything out
Y'all these comments omg 😂😂
@@laurenmay2098 Looks like Rex didn't clean the house either.
Kids in school need to think about what they are doing to other kids and also adults in the workplace because bullying happens there too.
That will never happen. Children don't have maturity yet.
You're looking at the wrong ones. Look at their parents.
Parents who produce kids and send them to school need to make sure their kids don't think it's ok finally others, societies that shape parents who produce kids...etc, etc. It's not as simple as saying kids shouldn't do x,y,z. It's a bigger issue about the kindness,and tolerance of society and of all of us.
Bullying, and the loss of significant people in his life, who were his anchor essentially, unquestionably imo, contributed to his low self-esteem and an incessant rage for revenge. I believe he felt powerless and needed to bring control back in his life which resulted in his alleged killings of those he could control, his vulnerable victims.
Thank you for another eye opening and excellent analysis.
There is a good reason people left him, believe me. Oh poor, disgusting ogre Rex, boo hoo.
@@LB-lt3pz and you know this for a fact?
No scientific evidence to prove any of those connections. Nope. None at all. Interesting watching people with zero clinical background just make shit up.
@@gelsiegiulia I mean we all know it since he was building a torture chamber in his basement..
Clutter is a trauma response.
Has it been established that RH is the hoarder? Or is AH the hoarder?
@@patriotUSA2007he still had a palm pilot . They seem to both have issues
or a form of depression
So true. I’m a childhood trauma survivor and I can never stay organized.
@laraoneal7284 I'm on the autism spectrum and am a Survivor. On top of that I suffer sever depression w/suicidal ideation. I couldn't imagine even making someone cry much less the crazy 💩 this dude has done..🤬🤢🤢🤦🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
All this makes so much sense, Nick. Good job! Blessings
I like the way John Douglas describes his own feelings about serial killers in his book Mindhunter. He talks about how serials are almost always abused in some way in childhood. But he can’t feel too much sympathy because he says a lot of people are abused. A lot of people experience violent fantasies. But not everybody chooses to act out those fantasies. Serials choose to act on those fantasies.
That makes sense. How unaware we are when it comes to other people's thoughts. It is a sad story.
He had so many triggers to navigate & instead of seeking help he went down a deep dark path that lead him to the worse possible outcome!
One has to wonder about the whole dynamic in the home, that the wife and children, lived in and around the house in such mess.
Maybe his control and dominance meant they couldn't, or dare to change, tidy or be proud of the home
Great insight once again Nick
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Yes, definitely Penelope, and I will be dealing with what likely happened in the home more precisely in a forthcoming Deep Dive.
I am thinking about Chad Daybell control. Even if Emma witnessed his father doing something in the backyard, she live very close to him. Would she dare to ask him, what are you doing dad? I guess not. Chad is one scary dude, in a different way RH is as well.
I was raised by a grandmother that could have been like his mum. My grandmum got divorced or her husband escaped her back in the 1950s. This might have triggered some kind of "Queen of the House" response in her or she was always that way (I'm not sure). This scenario is sort of like Heuermann's mum losing her husband and then feeling independent and empowered by it. Also, after losing her husband, she might have felt like she needed to take on the role of the father...and overcompensated with overly masculine behaviors. Her kids were afraid to challenge her or alter anything that belonged to her (like the house).
It is crazy to try to argue that RH was not a psychopath and that calling him a psychopath is not helpful. He engaged in prolonged torture and murder with zero empathy for his victims, who he enjoyed hunting. Of course he was/is a psychopath. Additionally, we do not yet know enough information to make these claims - that RH was triggered by his mother and wife leaving. He may have asked his mother to leave so that he and his wife could have some privacy, or any other reason. It's too presumptuous to state these things with very few supporting facts and details. We won't know what caused RH to be a sadistic murderer until we know so much more about his past; the information is not yet available.
Agreed. Finally figured out where his mom moved after VA. She went to a nursing home in TR, NJ. Now, lives with her dau in south NJ. X-wife, Liz, we do not know reason for divorce. Brother lives in SC. All of the above actually lived with RH and none of them have talked to the press. Pretty sure all have been interviewed by police, with the exception of elderly mom. So, maybe some of this will come out in trial, if RH, holds out and does not admit guilt. Otherwise is pure speculation.
If you like labels, go on, call him a psychopath. It doesn't add an iota to our understanding of how the psychology actually operates, but perhaps that's not a priority for you.
Why haven't they interviewed Rex's first wife Elizabeth Ryan ?
I’ve always said that society creates its monsters.
Well, not entirely. A lot can be said for how individuals respond, react or adapt to their environment, or more pertinently, fail to do so.
@@TCRS Why should anyone have to adapt to further unnecessary stress? It's not a pissing contest. OP is right. We need to go after every bad apple. Not just the convenient ones. Until then, it's true and society can't cry about what they aren't willing to fix. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin
Probably his religious mother and older sisters = textbook male psycho... Just saying BUT MOST victim's of abuse do not turn out like this psycho!!!!!!!!!
True, but the Rocket Scientist is right. The way an individual adapts to environmental pressures will also factor in. This latter part is determined by genetics, life experiences, family/friend support and luck. It's kinda like how pitbulls can be great dogs or become monsters if mistreated. Mistreated golden retrievers will suffer negative effects, but they'll never become as bad as a mistreated pitbull.
Alote of these physcopaths stems from. There childhood and take all the revenge on others..
Heuermann had a step father from around the age of 17. He has 4 siblings and 4 step siblings. Both his parents came from large families so he had many aunts and uncles and cousins. There was certainly a large family network available but not necessarily connected with.
Yeah, connection is very important. Many large families don't have individual care. I was watching about the Duggars yesterday, it is so sad.
26 is the average age that serial murderers begin to kill- (that’s from Dr Gary Brucato. Andy the database). And even though there are many “gap” years between some murders, I believe they will be able to attribute more “missing” young women to Rex, possibly with a different MO. Opportunity played a part, I’m sure.
Brucato is brilliant.
Bullying, even “mild” bullying is terrible and if they want to make all these zero tolerance policies in schools it should absolutely start with bullying. Bullying, even when you’re not the target and you’re just aware of it, is so traumatizing. Like I’m 39 and I think of certain instances from youth where I wasn’t even the target…I think about it or have flashes of it maybe not daily but certainly at least every few days currently. Just to witness it, and try to stop it unsuccessfully, is traumatizing. And any adult/teacher/bus driver who is aware of it and does nothing is A COWARD.
There's not a lot you can do. As someone who was bullied myself, we need to present less of a flank. There are predators all around and in fact you need to learn to deal with them. Obviously the physical ac5s can be dealt with but the comments can't.
@@Songbirdstresswe need to learn to live with them? What if they learn how to live with us?
@@laurenmay2098 They can't, they have no empathy. The whole point of Narcissism is it's an unbreachable defence mechanism.
Empaths need better education to protect themselves. That's the huge lacuna. That's the knowledge I have now I wish I had before.
@@Songbirdstress are saying all bullies are narcissists? I don't think so.
I think you’ve hit on the hypothesis most likely to be correct and corresponding in detail to the actual reality. Thank you for this deep dive and thorough analysis. 🚀
I don't think he was born a psychopath. Unfortunately he had sad circumstances in his younger years without the proper support. A domineering mum would build up a lot of anger. Thanks Nick, makes sense.
Nope. The science says psychopaths are born that way. Now, not all psychopaths are serial killers
It's hilarious when people look at a single mom trying pay the bills and raise 5 kids alone and call her "domineering". Is there a way to pull that 24 hour/365 shift without being bossy? But when men are the same way, they're "real men" or exhibiting "leadership". It's like the people who looked at Chris Watt's wife (who carried the family financially, was 9 months pregnant and working two job and got strangled and thrown in a field for her effort) and say she was "controlling". She was married to a hapless man-baby but the problem was her personality? The expectation still seems to be (in 2024) that women who are exhausted don't need help, they just need to stfu and make it work. Look at all the comments in here dragging Asa because the house was a mess as though there weren't 3 other adults living in the house. smh
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This is so arse backwards. No one ever claims that psychopaths don't have feelings, or don't know that other people have feelings. They're very involved with their own feelings, and they're extremely aware of other people's feelings. They LIKE provoking those feelings...the fear and terror.
They just don't feel any empathy for their victims.
As for being "triggered" by his mother and wife leaving.
Try the other way around. He FINALLY had the opportunity to indulge in what he wanted to.
Just as he did when his future family went away.
It is horrible hearing that people were so cruel to him.
I'm glad that some schools now put more effort into stopping such bullying.
It's also illegal in workplaces now.
But where is it still rampant...the US armed services.
They just don't feel any empathy for their victims.>>>True.
They're very involved with their own feelings, and they're extremely aware of other people's feelings.>>>Not true. People who are preoccupied with themselves, loners, are less aware of the feelings of others, which is why he is so awkward.
As for being "triggered" by his mother and wife leaving.
Try the other way around. He FINALLY had the opportunity to indulge in what he wanted to.>>>If that wewre true he would have gone on an unadulterated killing spree in 1993, and yet, as far as we know, he had only a single victim in 1993 and none in 1994 or 1995. So your thinking on this is more than a little flawed if you think it through.
It is horrible hearing that people were so cruel to him.>>>Yes.
I'm glad that some schools now put more effort into stopping such bullying. >>>Me too.
Thanks for your comments ;-)
He's nothing but a perverted pig...People are forgetting about his actual acts !! How anyone can feel sorry for them is beyond me. Makes me think that down deep they think it's basically OK.................UGH..the human race is gross.
You've hit the nail on the head. These guys are different from the very beginning. I think the "trigger" is when they become old enough to carry out their sick fantasies.
I was bullied. I have empathy & have never physically harmed anyone. There’s no connection scientifically between being bullied & becoming a serial killer. None whatsoever.
@@TCRS There are a lot of victims back from his college days. In HEMPSTEAD and Lynbrook too. Girls from the Hot Skates Roller rink in Lynbrook.
There is a point in time when the software for sexuality starts to come online in a person. I remember it well for myself, about the age of 10. I believe that men like this are surrounded by negative thoughts when this moment in time comes, and these negative ideas (which ought not to be there) are mixed into the formation of the psychosexual identity as it is becoming chrystalized. His father had just died (death, abandonment), he's being remorselessly bullied "by everyone" at school (impotent rage, fantasies of revenge), he has an unhealthy relationship with his mother. These are the emotions in his life when his sexuality is starting to come online, and they become mixed in -- from the very outset. Whilst most young me are going through normal progression steps; wouldnt it be nice to talk, to hold hands, to embrace, to kiss etc, boys with a troubled upringing are going through a step progression that involves those negative sentiments of hostility, pain, fear, control (or lack thereof), revenge etc. I think that explains part of the socialization aspect, but it probably also requires the genetic component that develops into structural psychopathy within the brain formation. It's one thing to have a corrupted, destructive, sadistic sexuality, it's another entirely to do the actions. To kidnap, imprison, torture, SA murder, dismember. And then to repeat. Most people are physically, emotionally & psychologically incapable of doing these things. Men like this are a disastrous coming together of innumerable biological, emotional & psychosocial misfortunes. Dahmer openly described his recognition that his sexuality developed slowly along a corrupted pathway from its very inception. Add that to a biological reduction in capacity to feel empathy for others, and you have a recipe for disaster.
Most people are physically, emotionally & psychologically incapable of doing these things.>>>I'm not sure if that's true. Expose anyone to enough crushing negation and there are going to be serious consequences. I'll be dealing with the MECHANISM of the criminal psychology in a forthcoming analysis.
Very well said.
Over thinking i think
“Please like, share, leave a shitty comment….” You crack me up Nick 😁
This makes me think. Though I’m thankfully doing well now, I’ve had a hard life. Born to addicted parents, bullied off and on in school, I’ve even lost a beloved family member to murder. This may sound crazy, but the year that the bullying was worst for me (6th grade) was so horribly painful that now, age 65 and looking back, the pain of that year (being ostracized, mocked) remains one of the most painful years of my life. I fully believe that bullying needs to be studied and curtailed. It happens in vulnerable stages of growth. Kids can be horrendously, hideously cruel.
Excellent analysis Nick. The scary ogre origins of the need for sadism torture. The dirty chaotic house is a powerful character in this horror show, like a manifestation of generations of dark depraved minds that created the house over decades
I believe that the lady of the house has no say on cleaning or organizing the house. Maybe she is a hoarder as well, or he conditioned her to be like that.
That was excellent thank you for your analysis.
It reminds me of The Man In Black - Peter Moore the North Wales serial killer. Except he was taunted & bullied by his father, he had an abnormally close relationship with his mother even though he was a gay man & once his mum passed his attacks & killings on innocent men began, but only after Mum was no longer here. I’m absolutely sure he won’t be the only killer who is triggered by mummy issues of some kind.
There is no basis to assume Ms Costilla was his first victim. There very well could be others preceding her. We just don't know.
There is a basis. The date she disappeared and when she was found. That's not no basis.
@@TCRS how is that a basis? Your assuming that was his first murder so you’re theory of poor lonely Rex abandoned by women adds up. He could have been murdering people before way 1993.
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Naaaah. He’s a psychopath without empathy. They totally still are triggered by events. They respond to what’s happening around them to maximize benefit. And the few feelings (rage, jealousy) they do feel cause them to act. Psychopath 100%
I'm with you.
Wow! This sums it up perfectly
Absolutely spot on Nick !
My Mom was an alcoholic. Stepdad a narcissist who did everything he could to make my life unpleasant. I had moved with them 2 years prior to a hick town in Fla. The highschool was outright dangerous due to racial tensions. For instance you could get jumped and hurt any day. I made one friend which helped. Then met another who was in her early 20s. With permission, at age 15 I came with her to Los Angeles, babysat while she worked nights and washed dogs until I was old enough to get a job at the airlines not far away. Went back to school, obtained my degree. Have been happily married for 25 years. It’s much much more than the bad HS experience and domineering mother. It’s said that his first wife left him because of his penchant for using escorts. His fantasies led to the hookers. His sadism lead to doing such awful things to them that he killed them. Sex, domination, etc. on his mind so much that it became an addiction. He’s a pervert and it’s not his classmates nor his mother’s fault.
Do you feel better now?
@@stj971Why such a remark like that? You have a problem?! This is America...free speech...remember?!
Great deep drive into his history. Thank you❤
Great episode! Highly researched and very informative…not that you needed my endorsement.
RH says to his mother, " I was drawn to your tar pit trap. Throw down your noose, so I can climb right back!" Lyrics by Kurt Cobain, the band Nirvana.
Woww That's Deep .
You missed the word 'umbilical.'
His mother is to blame? He is the person to blame. A lot of citizens have trauma in their lives…From childhood and later. But they don’t do what he’s done. Now the taxpayers are paying for this . All of the law enforcement and courts are having to deal with him. And who pays for that? Us taxpayers. And how long did this killing spree go on? Decades!
His mother is to blame? >>>Strange, I don't remember saying that.
Yep, it's on him and the police to some extent.
Single mothers are getting blamed often. There are two parents, fathers need to step up and take responsibility for their kids.
There were rumors of a “secret concrete vault” in the basement back when the investigative yard excavation was done. And to think - all of those VHS tapes and burner phones and computer hard drives and such - were just feet away.
I think police will find many more victims in those videos. I remember watching a documentary about a guy name Rodney? Serial in California. Many girls from his pictures were identified. Some dead, and some alive. The most important thing is to give some of the families some closure. If there is such a thing.
@@laurenmay2098 Rodney Alcala. The Dating Game Killer. He mostly went after kids however...
@@coreym162 yes, he is the one.
Interesting, a friends' father never emptied their mother's house, inherited from the grandparents also never emptied out. Parents were raging alcoholics. My friends are vey fucked up, especially the youngest. The father stopped interacting at all when mother died. Very sad.
It's kind of like energetic rat's nests that were built by toxic thinking/toxic speak. May all negativity be diffused, eliminated and or delivered and may your friend, all involved, and all affected be healed. Lord Jesus, in Godspeed, Help. Thanks. Amen. 🕊❤
I don’t understand why his Mom would move out of her own house? Why didn’t he move out instead?
I seem to remember that the mother moved to a senior facility
His mother was only around 63. She moved to another state with her long time boyfriend. They both had family in this new state.
@@SamStone1964 Thank you, that is excellent information
@@corinnakern If you scroll up there's an interesting comment from
@saylorgirl799 who lives in Charlotsville VA, near Dolores H. after she moved from the house. She mentions the “Rt 29 Killer” in connection with RH's travels to visit his mother down there.
Thanks!
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Isn’t it odd that his own children also remained in the family home well into adulthood? I believe the son is disabled? But what if the daughter? Didn’t she work at his architecture office? Why did she not move out?
It is most likely they all have dependency issues. Some people with mental issues will manage to live alone. But your parents are responsible to teach you how you will do it. My cousin's sons, both live alone now, after my auntie passed away 3 years ago. One of them even work. The other can't socialize at all. Now, the youngest learned how to work, got three college degrees. Both are intelligent, but don't have skills to live in the world. Never dated, ever. Because their lives are meticulous planned, they don't have any brushes with the law. I like to think that church keep them straight as well. There is violence among them, because the oldest is violent some times. But his medication is controlled by him, and that is something a little dangerous. If he doesn't take it. They are in middle thirties. Waist of life, such a waist. They are very intelligent, but not emotionally fit.
@@laurenmay2098 I can relate with them, even though I wouldn't go to that extent though
They were like peas in pods 🫛
Not sure what the trigger actually was. I believe he started down the path as a teen and he is VERY connected to the house.
Thanks
wow, thanks Elsabe. Just booked a R3000 flight to New York, so this comes in handy right now. ;-)
@@TCRS Wil graag meer gee. Sal nog ❤️
I believe that there had to be an escalation of violence before 1993. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that he bullied others or that he tortured small animals. I appreciate, though, that this is an analysis of what is in the indictment and in evidence. He’s an extremely scary individual and I am sure that those victims were terrified.
Disagree with you. To me, such deep trauma would occur way earlier than 29. His mother leaving wouldn't be a trauma at that age, especially if he's already married. Being traumatized by your mother moving out at 29, plus buying his old house, would hint at earlier trauma.
To me... his trauma came in his youth. School. The bullying. Probably right after the father died. Being defenseless with no one to go to and no one to guide him bullying, guidance to workout his own defense and getting girls. I would suppose girls gave him ZERO positive attention. Every girl on that school knew he was the bottom of the pyramid.
Taking the abuse and torture quietly is quite scary actually. He was quietly planning his response. At some point he knew he would take revenge. That would allow him to take the abuse.
Seems like you jumped the gun. I mentioned the high school bullying.
There is a difference between trauma and a trigger. He clearly wasn't triggered to commit murder in high school. I think you missed that.
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@TCRS hmmm yes "triggered" vs "caused". I think obviously his wife and mom moving out allowed him to plan and do those ones around that time easier. He had the time and space.
But....... at that point, I firmly believe he already had been triggered and acted on it before Sandra. But the crimes maybe not that elaborate. Hard to think he would start with a planned, sophisticated murder in his own place without any previous experience. More likey, he already had done some more rudimentary/opportunistic ones and simply used this time alone to do it in the comfort and control of his own home.
The reason for me is that him being able to take the abuse he took calmly and quietly somewhat tells me, he wasn't too far off his mental plan and realizing it. Especially as he grew in size and started realizing he can actually do some damage once he got out of his high school and met new people who didn't see him as the bottom.
I'm thinking the trial will start showing some details and background, as the DA has tons of evidence they haven't shared yet.
Very important what you said here. To add.... RH never new the purpose of a woman as the Creator purposed it.This is going to the base of the root. The dis functional family, was fuel but his conduct throughout his life boils down to seeing women through an distorted lens.
On the contrary, he was well aware of how Christians around him view women, 3rd class citizens meant to shut up and do as men tell them
Nick, you're so funny sometimes and i just dont expect it,!! 😂😂 You're my absolute fave channel.
It's also high unlikely that they know who his first victim is yet!
plausible at the very least and with great insight - iit broke me to tears.
You do such a great job. Thanks so much for your input and coverage on this. It's very creepy to realize that when I worked in Manhattan, my office was two blocks away. We certainly passed on the sidewalk from Penn. Goes to show how close we are to evil at times and don't even know it.
So if that is the house he took his victims, and all that clutter was in the place how could he have done that to the victims without leaving trace all over all the stuff laying everywhere.
Basement was pretty bare
Hi just to let you know these two victims are not his first. i found three victims that match his MO in California in 1991. all three were strangled, dismembered, put in burlap bags and dumped into the Oak harbor or Oak Estuary. i have already tipped the Detectives to these victims and i am just waiting for them to link him. there are going to be a lot more victims to come. it is too early to tell what set him off, but it will come out. He has a fascination with Oak it may come from him being a duck hunter or it may be his favorite type of wood. this killer was smart, and he covered his tracks well plus he had help from the ex-chief of police Mr. Burke by the way he handled this case. I do think cops would have caught on as they did but had the victims on Gilgo beach not been found he would not be in jail at this time, so fate seems to have popped up to put a stop to him.
I also don't think Ms. Castilla was the first. I suspect he also practiced on animals. Just horrifying.
For real! Imagine if he wasn’t caught! 🫣
@@faticus5369 i don't want to cause there would be more murdered women
Was he in Cali in 1991?
@@raincadeify we shall soon see. i believe he was when he was visiting his Vagas homes.
The good ole 80’s, bullying went unchecked and could be bad enough to create a serial killer.
Thank you! The 80's was hell for nerds. That's what the modern nostalgia forgets. They get the 60's wrong about Hippies too. History is warped.
@@coreym162 It was crazy that way. Teachers pretty much ignored it. I went to a K-12 school and you had to deal with much older kids. My worst memories were those “pig piles” where they’d just pile on to the point you couldn’t breathe. Every time someone jumped on the pile it would force you to exhale but you had so much weight above you couldn’t inhale. Teachers just wandering around talking while ya think you’re going to die :)
Today, too
@@dianabehr3169 Yes, there’s always bullying but there’s an awareness that wasn’t there a few decades ago.
@@coreym162 How was the 80s worse than any other time for bullying?
Spat my tea out @ 3:15 lmfao
What he said " leave your shi**y comments ?"
@@sharonmartin5051 "leave a s hitty comment" 😂
@@georgiegirl8345 omg I lost it 😂
@@georgiegirl8345Me tool It wasn't until I saw EllieAusso's comments " I spit out my tea" that I then listened again. I think that complaint really hurt him . He.works so hard .Please take care .
You r work is superb Nick!❤
I appreciate that!
He is indeed!
Wow. Lying in the dark with a brand new titanium hip. So scary-and I listened twice.
Feel better soon!
Good work. Looking forward to more
Great analysis again! 👏👏👏👏
The sad story isn't that uncommon, yet this kind of behavior IS uncommon. This doesn't quite add up. Earlier rejection/bullying may have been a response to strange behavior rather than the cause of it. He's a big guy, not the type bullies usually go after. Perhaps something was already wrong in his youth. Maybe it was rage, maybe it was trying to feel something because normal emotion was missing. Just speculation.
This doesn't quite add up. >>>I don't think you're taking words like "he was everyone's punching bag" literally. Maybe give this video a second listen.
"the nasty way society treated him" So sad. Bullying is terrible, yes. But how many serial killers have been treated badly by society? If so, is it the fragile male ego at play? Same as all the domestic violence against women by male partners? Some men really need to have their freaking heads examined and stop killing women.
But how many serial killers have been treated badly by society? If so, is it the fragile male ego at play? >>>I think you're underestimating the level of bullying. We'll be exploring in more detail what we mean by bullying, and the psychological unravelling in more detail, because many seem to lack the ability to imagine when one is told certain things without being more clearly shown what it really looks and feels like.
We are also going to try to understand - in subsequent deep dives - what might have been going on at home that turned in those psychological screws even tighter.
Can you explain the sheer level of sadism?
That's very oversimplistic.
Totally awesome coverage ❤
Wow! Blaming the mother? Many people have a controlling mother. But they grow up and take responsibility.
You have a very good point there...
And many ppl find it difficult to understand that everyone's brain act and respond differently to the same stimulus.
This was one grim episode. Well done,I guess. I could only make halfway through. The horror, the horror.
And the ex wife? What do we know about her?
Excellent analysis. You always have such excellent insight.
Fascinating
Your writing, editing, and analysis seems to have been readying for this era, this case.
House of Lechmere has done an analysis of RH / JtR discussing geography and other “intercontextualities” you may have seen already. Made me think of you it was so good.
The mother, of course!
Thanks, Nick for another great video! And thanks for the laugh- leave a “shitty comment” 😂
The psychology of evil. Is evil born? Or is evil made?
Does society make serial killers? Many psychologist agree that it’s a combination of both.
Now a jury can "bully" his butt.
Gilgoa Beach on Ocean Parkway is part of Babylon, New York. That gives me chills
I would love to see someone interview that first wife. She probably holds a wealth of knowledge. And his siblings would hopefully be a good source of info on him.
I always learn something new from your analysis. Makes perfect sense. Bullying is so damaging to the psyche. His parents ignored and compounded his issues. Makes you wonder how he was able to move on to college and achieve success at all. Thanks for delving into the psychology.. Looking forward to the next one.
Being an architect…. His house is a reflection of him !! He has no pride ….. !!
Pretty good analysis. Nobody else has tried. What accounts for the cluttered mess and the dilapidated condition of the house ? What accounts for the sloppy disheveled condition of the wife? What’s going on there?
My thoughts went to his wife leaving as the trigger, let alone the relentless bullying, but coupled with his mother leaving, it seems to hone down what really drove this man's sick desire for revenge and torture. : hatred of women and the power of their sex over him. 🤔
What is the backstory on his wife and how they met she was reportedly foreign. And he brought her here but I don't know from what country.
I think there may be hundreds of bodies all across the United States.
Where did the mother go?
Asa's attorney said she moved from Iceland to NY when she was three. RH did not bring her out to the USA. Asa grew up just around the corner where her family still live. Her attorney said they met when they were 18 and Asa was working at a local store.
His mother moved interstate with her long-term boyfriend.
Yes. It makes complete sense.
I'm so glad you're covering this case. I love your psychological approach.
Rex was triggered by how he was treated by his Dad & the kids at school. Women must have teased him too? His acts are hateful & angry 😡
He commented "small is good" on his list. They were easier to knock out & move around. I think he's a big man, but not a strong man
Interesting analysis, however, I need to point out that our A.G. Berner High School graduating class was 1981, not 1983. Therefore, our 10-year reunion was 1991, not 1993. If, indeed, the very first murder took place in 1993 that would’ve been 12 years after graduation, not 10, so the anniversary itself most likely holds no triggering significance. No doubt the bullying had a huge detrimental effect, but 1993 was simply a convenient time where he finally had the house to himself. The B&W photograph being shown in this video of him as a kid, was from our John P. McKenna Junior High School yearbook, class of 1977 (8th grade). The B&W photo where he’s wearing glasses was from the 1981 Berner High School yearbook.
Amazing insight
Glad it was helpful!
Really enjoying these deep dives- so much info missed from most sources
Life is hard.
Get a helmit!!
Your sound is a lot better man. Good stuff!
I clean houses for a living and there is something very dark about hoarded houses. The people that live in them and the actual house itself.
This makes perfect sense to me, Nick. It's really quite sad.
This all made sense love the way you piece it all together.
People are bullied this badly and go "home" to an unloving mother and a brother who tortures them. These people can grow up to be much more likely to be an advocate for the weak than a danger to them. I know this first hand.
Is that the inside of the house or the garage? Holy shit. He sure isn’t clean or organised in his daily life.
I had a sit down with a very good psychic and she described lisk as being highly intelligent but severely fragmented.
He was BUSY ???
@@paulf2529 Same, I thought about that too. His house is falling apart but he has money n is an architect. All the lawns n yards on that street r manicured n his is a mess. He’s more than unorganized he’s a hoarder. He was so careful not to get caught but looking at tht house there’s no way evidence isn’t lost in those piles ovr the last 20y
@@valansley Obsessive ppl find the time tho or don’t hoard shit to the ceiling but he prolly was busy stalking women.
Why would his mother leave her own house?
I had a similar childhood. I have empathy where Rexy boy here. not so much. So were looking at a sexual sadist to say the least. To act on these feelings is on another level. So perhaps that requires a psychopathy.