TSRR 201 struggling to move the T&P 610 into the Palestine shop - 1080p High Definition

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  • @longhairwayne
    @longhairwayne 11 лет назад +88

    A 79 ton 4 6 0 steamer plus its own tender of 25 tones,,,, moving a massive 224 ton 2 10 4,not counting another 100 tons tender weight,I am awed that the little engine could.Nice show and some excellent work by the engineer.

  • @eastcoastrailproductions
    @eastcoastrailproductions 9 лет назад +100

    Y'all give that mighty little 10 wheeler some credit she ain't big but she did it

    • @GwZZ124
      @GwZZ124 5 лет назад +4

      little engines can do big things!

  • @ATSF1927
    @ATSF1927 12 лет назад +5

    I became a Fireman then Engineer on the old Baldwin 4-8-4s for Santa Fe Railway in 1945, coal oil was the main oil we used, it was much easier to regulate the oil then was using an old banjo to shovel coal. I haven't seen a Cooke Steamer in a few years, and a great looking Lima. I miss the old steam locomotives :-)

  • @peetre
    @peetre 11 лет назад +21

    How could anyone not like "The little train that could!"

  • @davidbarnett9312
    @davidbarnett9312 10 лет назад +4

    Just visited the TSRR in July. The steam engine used was an Arizona Magma RR 2-8-0. I did not see these two locos. The steam engine pulled the Piney Woods Excursion leaving Palestine. An Alco pulled the Rusk excursion train. Great ride and a lot of fun, especially for the grandchildren. If you intend to take the excursion, pack a lunch or you can order box lunches when you make reservations because there's no place at either depot to eat. The layover is about an hour.

  • @Kathrynyoder-x2j
    @Kathrynyoder-x2j 5 лет назад +6

    What a powerful old steamer. I still believe that the old steam trains are more reliable than today's trains.

  • @PhantomDrums917
    @PhantomDrums917 13 лет назад +3

    I love the old time trains. Brings me back to Butch Cassidy days and makes me long for a simpler time in America. Interesting and lovely video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Zuiderzee-Lives
    @Zuiderzee-Lives 8 лет назад +56

    Considering she's only getting sand on four drivers and she's maybe half the size of 610 at best, I think 201 did an excellent job.

  • @elihew
    @elihew 12 лет назад +3

    Love those old steam engines. They were predominant when I was a small boy (I'm now 70), and we used to always go down to the tracks behind our house and watch them pass by since we knew their schedules...

  • @JasonLeeDavis
    @JasonLeeDavis  14 лет назад +6

    It's difficult to see in the video as the camera placement was just below the plane of the rail; however, the sander was being used during the move. It might have been helpful to have been able to apply the sand to multiple drivers rather than just the middle driver.

  • @EcchiBANZAII-desu
    @EcchiBANZAII-desu 11 лет назад +2

    I think nostalgia just happened because I laughed with a shaky almost teary voice.
    Thank you.
    Steam trains has such charisma.

  • @JoeOutdoors
    @JoeOutdoors 8 лет назад +5

    That was cool! Glad to see steam still in use. Wish I lived closer but I still see a road trip to Texas.

  • @mugsyjeff
    @mugsyjeff 10 лет назад +47

    Long live steam locos

  • @ianjperry6772
    @ianjperry6772 11 лет назад +11

    Holy Rail-Slip, Batman.

  • @BCSchmerker
    @BCSchmerker 14 лет назад +1

    Excellent illustration of the problems pushing a 200+-ton 2-10-4 Lima Super-Power and tender with a light ten-wheeler. The engineer on #201 must have really had to finesse the throttle with the shifter full aft.

  • @Traindriver844
    @Traindriver844 11 лет назад +1

    Alot seems to have changed since I last visited the Texas State Railroad. I should probably visit it during my next spring break from school.

  • @jordenmosley6079
    @jordenmosley6079 8 лет назад +8

    I can imagine the 201 complainimg about havong to do it and not the much stronger diesel train right by it when the 610 is in the shed.

  • @Waleswales01
    @Waleswales01 11 лет назад

    Watching and listening to your film was like watching and listening to Pavarotti sing. Thank you for sharing

  • @VictorianMaid99
    @VictorianMaid99 7 месяцев назад

    That was amazing. I just returned from a visit to the TSR however the Texan was not outside of the barn.

  • @trainmaster844
    @trainmaster844 14 лет назад +1

    Nice video! 201 was down on her knees trying to move 610 XD... Took her a while, but God Damnit, SHE DID IT! :)

  • @wwrr98
    @wwrr98 12 лет назад +2

    I give this engineer credit. He knew what he was doing.

  • @tropicalfishswim
    @tropicalfishswim 14 лет назад +7

    I'm hearing the voice of Thomas the Tank Engine in my head. "Little engines can do big things"!

  • @Blogengezer
    @Blogengezer 12 лет назад +1

    Beautiful facilities above flood plain (reason for grade), infrastructure is first class. Great RV campground. Restored Station is excellent. Tourist events are ongoing and well attended, even The Polar Express. Texas is a great train state. Enthusiasm is high to maintain the past. Rusk, at other end of this section, is also nice. Jay Gould's private rail car 'Atlanta', is now a restored museum piece in Jefferson Texas, an 1800's Steamboat Port. Southeast Texas, a great retreat into the past.

  • @bishopcorva
    @bishopcorva 11 лет назад +2

    Love the forward roll at 3:50 and the slide jolt at 3:55. Heavy weight on the roll is a bit hard to stop.

  • @09JDCTrainMan
    @09JDCTrainMan 9 лет назад +20

    I can imagine if the 201 were trying to push an Allegheny.

    • @lennoxpurinton9059
      @lennoxpurinton9059 9 лет назад +5

      That'd be funny. This thing had a hell of a hard pushing this 2-10-4 and it was working hard. Wonder how heavy that 2-10-4 is?

    • @09JDCTrainMan
      @09JDCTrainMan 9 лет назад +8

      The 2-10-4 is like 729,166 lbs with it's tender. The Allegheny, without it's tender, weighs 778,000 lbs

    • @armagonarmagon3980
      @armagonarmagon3980 8 лет назад +3

      I thought that the Allegheny was much, much heavier.

    • @09JDCTrainMan
      @09JDCTrainMan 8 лет назад +3

      Armagon Armagon IDK about much, much heavier, but it is heavier, with a full tender, the Alleghenies weigh almost 1.2 milllion pounds.

    • @up844productions8
      @up844productions8 6 лет назад

      An Allegheny would be a stretch for the 300 let alone the 201 but he did an admirable job

  • @rechelieu
    @rechelieu 12 лет назад

    I agree. We need to preserve these marvelous wonders...I love them...

  • @samhouston4326
    @samhouston4326 11 лет назад +2

    Love me some Texas State Railroad! Hope to be there for the Christmas runs.

  • @EMDSD14R
    @EMDSD14R 13 лет назад +1

    lima 2-10-4 #610 ..and an Alco MR 412 or RSX4 in the background....great just awsome

  • @Countrytx
    @Countrytx 11 лет назад

    Road the railroad 1 week before this was taken, nice video.

  • @supermonkeyninjaman
    @supermonkeyninjaman 12 лет назад

    My first time seeing the 201 and I'm in love!

  • @robajohnson
    @robajohnson 12 лет назад

    Great to watch! Thanks for posting!

  • @chazrobitaille
    @chazrobitaille 12 лет назад

    The high pitch whine you hear is actually the dynamo, a steam powered generator used to provide electricity for the locomotive's lights. As far as fuel goes, oil is a major part of our history. Southern Pacific and Santa Fe pioneered the use of oil in steam locomotives starting in the mid 1890's, and became the dominant fuel source in the southwestern United States until the end of the steam era in the 1950's. Just thought I'd put in my 2 cents!

  • @brianpacos4072
    @brianpacos4072 7 лет назад +8

    At 3:54 you can see #201 being literally pushed along with her wheels locked due to the size of #610

    • @s_rv.
      @s_rv. 6 лет назад +1

      Why do people call trains a *"she?"*

    • @s_rv.
      @s_rv. 5 лет назад

      And I thought I was the only one who noticed that

    • @mrs.dairycow62
      @mrs.dairycow62 5 лет назад

      Brian Pacos can’t be good on the wheels

  • @SunsetConductor
    @SunsetConductor 12 лет назад

    I believe that the diesel in the background is an Alco RSD-3. If I am not mistaken, it has A-1-A trucks on it. It was originally built for the US Military and the builder's plate probably has a different model number on it because the military has their own way of doing stuff like that. But it would be the equivalent of an RSD-3 that was sold to the common carriers..

  • @CSXEMDTrainLover
    @CSXEMDTrainLover 9 лет назад

    nice video and great catch of the small steam engine trying to push the big steam into the building.

  • @FishplateFilms
    @FishplateFilms 13 лет назад +1

    Good patientence and control by the engineer!,top video.

  • @RailPreserver2K
    @RailPreserver2K 7 лет назад +2

    Do they plan on returning the 610 to steam ?

  • @grvolans
    @grvolans 13 лет назад +1

    nice catch of the engineer fighting to keep the wheels from slipping!!

  • @SMILEVIDEOTRAINS
    @SMILEVIDEOTRAINS 12 лет назад

    A most enjoyable piece of video. Thank you for sharing

  • @dave6695
    @dave6695 12 лет назад +1

    Looked like David trying to move Goliath. Very interesting display of steam power.

  • @ejovadi
    @ejovadi 12 лет назад +1

    Fantastic steam show. Thanks

  • @robertgift
    @robertgift 12 лет назад

    Well done video!
    Was any smoke exiting that chimney on the building?
    What is done to prevent damage to the cold locomotive from moving? What lubricates the pistons against their cylinder walls? Could there not be much damage?
    Thank you.

  • @stestepney
    @stestepney 12 лет назад +1

    Excellent vid thanks Steve....

  • @colinfairhurst8949
    @colinfairhurst8949 11 лет назад +1

    Engineer seemed to be doing an excellent job there !

  • @femtoman2357
    @femtoman2357 12 лет назад

    Thanks for posting!!! Very cool!

  • @princesslea20
    @princesslea20 14 лет назад

    This train is the best thing to hit Palestine since sliced bread. They have fun themed train rides like the Polar Express around Christmas time, murder mystery train rides, etc. It is a ton of fun for the little ones and adults alike.

  • @ravenhawk6910
    @ravenhawk6910 14 лет назад

    Man I wish the 610 would run again. My grandpa has pictures of her on the Southern Railway in the 70's.

  • @DirtTrackDave
    @DirtTrackDave 12 лет назад

    I don't know what it is about trains but young, old, and everything in between loves trains!

  • @JapaneseCityPopCat
    @JapaneseCityPopCat 9 лет назад

    Way to go little engine! You did it! That's the power of a good ol' steam locomotive for you. :)

  • @LeonardFShanerJR
    @LeonardFShanerJR 12 лет назад

    Is there a slight grade going into the shop? Very nice video.
    Len
    Pottstown,PA.

  • @jacksmith9951
    @jacksmith9951 11 лет назад

    Um, it can wear out the tires faster. I think that is a major component. And what part is cast iron that is sliding on the steel?

  • @edd17sp74
    @edd17sp74 5 лет назад

    You can almost hear the engineer muttering under his breath “Come on, Baby, dig!”

  • @jodypearce9515
    @jodypearce9515 5 лет назад

    The little kids book come to life! Just about needed a 2-8-2 for that move.

  • @LNERfan
    @LNERfan 5 лет назад

    Did somebody threaten to vandalize the engines featured in this video or something? I'm seeing a whole lot of rage but no source. What happened down here?

  • @Trainman2101
    @Trainman2101 13 лет назад

    I wonder what the tracks and 201's wheels looked like after all that slipping. I'm surprised the tires didn't come off!

  • @Xps3ubox60wii
    @Xps3ubox60wii 12 лет назад

    in all my years (3 years) of watching and following steam trains... i have never seen one slip this much before

  • @trueburrito
    @trueburrito 12 лет назад

    And how do you want them to set the power reverse on a non operational display piece?
    Has to have something moving those gears and pistons....

  • @RailyardProductions
    @RailyardProductions 14 лет назад +1

    Wow! Looks like I need to plan a trip to Texas.

  • @Midland1072Productions
    @Midland1072Productions 14 лет назад

    something tells me that the 610 ways a little more than the sunday train. what do you think.

  • @bradstrains
    @bradstrains 12 лет назад

    It's a switcher so you're not going to get much continuous tractive effort out of it... it's geared for starting force not continuous so it only makes 36,000 lbs continuous. Do you know how much HP that 4-6-0 makes?

  • @Kleman09
    @Kleman09 14 лет назад

    @ConrailJon theres a reason radios are used. Sometimes hand signals are not always understood, and most railroads these days dont use them.

  • @devinsmih3397
    @devinsmih3397 11 лет назад +4

    why didjnt they use the diesel locomotive beside it

    • @eothetrainmaster
      @eothetrainmaster 9 лет назад +4

      Cause they showed that a small 4-6-0 could move that monster of a engine

    • @lehighandnewengland
      @lehighandnewengland 7 лет назад +7

      devin smih because steam locomotives are better than diesels

  • @indie1361
    @indie1361 13 лет назад

    How many engines do they have operating?

  • @Penquinfan1
    @Penquinfan1 8 лет назад

    What's going on with the 601? Beautiful engine

  • @JasonLeeDavis
    @JasonLeeDavis  11 лет назад

    Thanks Perry. This video was shot with a Canon HV20 HD Digital Video Camera at 1080p. Processing was done with Adobe Premiere Pro. -Jason

  • @vettebecker1
    @vettebecker1 13 лет назад +1

    Love it. The engineer really had to feather that throttle.

  • @herbgarratt
    @herbgarratt 12 лет назад

    I didn't see the reach rod move, or the VG put into Back Gear?
    They are trying to back that 2-10-4 up, whilst the 2-10-4 is in Mid-Gear?
    It is always sooooooooooo much easier to move a dead (not in steam) steam lokie with the VG set for the 'correct' direction intended to move it, and the cylinder cocks open on the dead one.
    Don't they know that?

  • @southern4501isawesom
    @southern4501isawesom 13 лет назад

    why did 610 go out of service? i never could figure out why

  • @renegadeoflife87
    @renegadeoflife87 11 лет назад

    There were two controls on a steam engine.
    The throttle itself, adjusting steam pressure, and the valve cutoff.
    Changing the cutoff point of the engine allowed the engineer to exchange torque for steam economy, as the steam engine running with no cutoff has a constant torque at any RPM determined by its pressure.
    For situations like this you actually want to regulate the engine backwards- altering speed using cutoff and power using throttle, normally this is opposite.

  • @bradstrains
    @bradstrains 12 лет назад

    My points of references are that with more speed the more HP they make(since the Berkshire), and after looking through some info on steamers it looks like for a road steam engine around 40-60 mph is there high HP level. I may be wrong with that.
    This was a branch of the discussion that originated from you saying you can't compare there HP.

  • @SunsetConductor
    @SunsetConductor 12 лет назад

    English locomotives have vacuum brakes. American Locomotives use Air Brakes. The brakes were off the whole time. That section of track has a slight grade on it which is why the conductor had to remove a chain that was draped across the track and around the center drive wheel to keep it from rolling forward. Pushing back to the shop is up hill.

  • @jdzonline5008
    @jdzonline5008 7 лет назад +1

    It’s amazing seeing these locomotives having such a fast spin of a wheel

  • @robertgift
    @robertgift 10 лет назад

    Well done video!
    Why no steam-directing rods on #201?
    Thank you.

    • @eothetrainmaster
      @eothetrainmaster 9 лет назад

      Do you mean Valve gear if so No. 201 appears to have stephenson valve gear
      Rather than walsherts valve gear

  • @paulie2tanks
    @paulie2tanks 8 лет назад +16

    Maybe they forgot to release the parking brake on the 610? Just reach under the dash and pull that little handle that says "Parking Brake Release." Works every time for me in my Ford Excursion, which is a few pounds lighter than the 610:)

  • @lincolnbarry1
    @lincolnbarry1 11 лет назад +1

    In HD this is so clear. What camera did you use to film this?

  • @CatholicKavanagh
    @CatholicKavanagh 12 лет назад

    Is the steam coming from the train towards the ground (9:20) hot enough to injure you?

  • @up844productions8
    @up844productions8 6 лет назад

    Great photo location right beside the action I didn't think the 201ceould be able to move the 610 but I'm wrong that engine is very strong

  • @ShirakoX35
    @ShirakoX35 13 лет назад

    can you take pictures sitting inside the cab of the #610?

  • @ltlman692
    @ltlman692 12 лет назад

    Hey, I got an idea, why can't use a diesel to it, that would be better, right.

  • @JohnAdorjan
    @JohnAdorjan 2 года назад

    Great video!

  • @atsfevan0242
    @atsfevan0242 5 лет назад

    Will t&p 610 ever run again?

  • @southern4501isawesom
    @southern4501isawesom 11 лет назад

    How does the scrap yard stay in business if you don't get that much work?

  • @nielsdanielbuch9022
    @nielsdanielbuch9022 12 лет назад

    is the TSRR 4-6-0 #201 a consolidation?

  • @AquaDolphin3
    @AquaDolphin3 11 лет назад

    Was there any sort of damage done to No. 201?

  • @AtomoTheGreatest
    @AtomoTheGreatest 9 лет назад

    What does the "derail" sign mean...?

    • @lehighandnewengland
      @lehighandnewengland 7 лет назад

      Attack & Release it's an object known as a derail. Derailers were used to derail a runaway train to keep the runaway from entering the mainline and from derailing trains on the mainline.

  • @dannyvasquez4581
    @dannyvasquez4581 10 лет назад +2

    A 4-6-0??

  • @TexasRockTiger
    @TexasRockTiger 11 лет назад

    Nice shot,and fantastic camera,what make and model?

  • @gtafan2006
    @gtafan2006 13 лет назад

    @Fireheart528 actually the iowa interstate tried that dont know if they still use em for freight but they do use them on excursions they use chinese qj's though

  • @ThePainTrain765
    @ThePainTrain765 10 лет назад

    Does 610 operate? Or is she being restored? She looks pretty complete in the video.

    • @mark10788
      @mark10788 10 лет назад

      610 doesn't operate anymore. She last operated in 1982 and her boiler ticket ran out in 1991. (Being restored in 1976) So she needs an overhaul and maybe some repairs.

    • @ThePainTrain765
      @ThePainTrain765 10 лет назад +1

      Well, at least she's not sitting in the back of some abandoned workshop, the Texas state railway seems like a pretty competent group. (Even if they were trying to move a Texas class with a ten wheeler.)

    • @mark10788
      @mark10788 10 лет назад

      Like you said, at least 610 isn't sitting in an abandoned workshop, which is good. Because if she was, who knows what could happen.

  • @kleetus92
    @kleetus92 12 лет назад

    You don't mess with Texas.... either the 2-10-4 Class Texas or the State! I'd love to see B&LE's 643 Texas class get restored and run!

  • @JoshRyanScott
    @JoshRyanScott 11 лет назад

    I wonder what type of shape 610 is in?

  • @buntik1687
    @buntik1687 13 лет назад

    How much does 201 weigh?

  • @lawsonmackenzie5475
    @lawsonmackenzie5475 12 лет назад

    How come the Engineer didn't use the "sanders" ?

  • @LuckyTrucker1
    @LuckyTrucker1 11 лет назад

    Hi there, I don't know what you guys are going on about the smaller loco moving the larger one. The only problem was traction, the bigger loco was no heavier than the trains it used to pull. Don't know if you are aware but back in the late 1920s the Great Western Railway back here in the UK sent 4-6-0 King George VI 6000 when new to the States for appraisal. The American engineers were amazed by how power was available from such a "small" loco. At the time KG VI was the most powerful engine in the UK , 40,000Ibs of tractive effort. So there you go size isn't everything.

    • @bavarianbanshee
      @bavarianbanshee 11 лет назад

      40,000?! That's incredible!!

    • @legorailroader844
      @legorailroader844 10 лет назад +1

      You do know we've had 2-8-0's, 4-6-2's, with more power then that right? The UK's locomotives were built for speed and performance, while our locomotives (The States) were built for strength and performance, but at the same time we've also have had ones built for speed, strength, and performance.

    • @pux0rb
      @pux0rb 10 лет назад

      I'm assuming the joints had not been greased in years and so the friction was enormous.

    • @legorailroader844
      @legorailroader844 10 лет назад

      Actually they take very good care of 610 and service it once a month from what I've heard.

  • @up844productions8
    @up844productions8 6 лет назад

    Would you think the 301 would be able to move the 4014 comment on your thoughts

  • @MrMikado282
    @MrMikado282 7 лет назад +1

    So lets take a look at how impressive this is.
    1. The obvious difference in weight class.
    2. 201 is a 4-6-0 Ten Wheeler, a locomotive design that wasn't really designed for freight/heavy lifting kind of work.
    3. 201 is also a high wheeler, meaning she has tall wheels intended for higher speed passenger service unlike a freight locomotive which has shorter wheels for more pulling power.
    Can't wait to go back and see these wonderful locomotives again.

    • @lehighandnewengland
      @lehighandnewengland 7 лет назад

      MrMikado282 most 2-10-4 locomotives were commonly used on freight service

  • @bruce666187
    @bruce666187 11 лет назад +2

    Why wasn't he using sand??

  • @LycoValleyRRFan
    @LycoValleyRRFan 13 лет назад +1

    @CN413Fox I saw a very nice brass 610 in HO it was only like $2,000. I think it was at"Uncle Dave's Brass".

  • @raptorproductions1639
    @raptorproductions1639 6 лет назад

    Doesn’t 610 permanently have its brakes on?

  • @milesmouse72
    @milesmouse72 12 лет назад

    I like ships the most, but I've always had a soft spot for trains, especially these old steam powered ones.