Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland - Ground Zero for Modern Disney.
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I’m gonna be honest, after nearly a decade of Live-Action remakes, there’s just nothing left to say anymore.
I honestly think it’s better to ignore them than to treat them like the most heinous thing in the universe.
@@meta527II That’s what I’ve been doing since Lion King.
@firecrakerj3312 I didn't even bother watching the trailers. I just rewatched the Lion King I already had on DVD. Not paying to watch an inferior version of something I already own.
@@meta527IIyea, like it’s no longer a shock whenever Disney wants to keep making more remakes. I rather now focus on watching the animated Disney movies.
Yall are doing the thing others should do. Do not give Disney any views for their live action movies. Do not watch the trailer, do not watch the movie.
It's crazy to think that this kicked off Disney's live action remake trend, and that despite massive flaws, it's still one of the better ones. Points for at least making it different, I guess.
It at least tried to be different from the original classic. Unlike 90% of other Disney remakes that have the same plot as the animated movies.
I personally enjoy the live action Alice In Wonderland. I even dressed as the Red Queen once for Halloween.
Same. I dressed up as Mad Hatter for Halloween back in 2010.
I will admit this movie has outstanding costume designs. There's a good reason why I still see costumes of the Mad Hatter and Red Queen at some Halloween stores and sites.
the worst part about this is that it's (probably) one of the better disney live action remake out of all of them.
this says a lot about society and yet we live in it.
-Peter Griffin
Cinderella was probably the best imo but even that one had lots of changes and while changes are expected in adaptations and remakes some of those changes had ruined some things about it (like Cinderella being able to go outside every now and then kinda defeats the satisfaction to see our protagonist finally being able to go outside after being trapped for ages) but hey at least it was shot on film, It’s the only remake that was.
@@txwtwCinderella 2015 was one of the best.
Dude what about Maleficent, that one was pretty decent
I enjoyed the remake of Pete's Dragon a lot more than this one. That one is pretty different compared to the original. Well, if it wasn't, then it would be pretty pointless.
@@JinlongTheGoldenDragon Lol no.
Ok but why does the Mad Hatter look like a fusion between Willie Wonka and Pennywise 😂
Damn I can't unsee it now😂😂
Oh yes, the one that starts the Disney remakes (not counting the 101 dalmatians one, since this was not for cash grab yet.)
I loved both of those movies lol
Sad thing is their first remakes were decent because like Illumination, in their first rodeo they didn't realize they didn't have to try yet. Maleficent and Cinderella (remake) are both pretty decent especially the first Maleficent. And so was this one
_Cinderella_ (2015) is awesome, in every way.
There’s a 1988 stop motion movie directed by Jan Švankmajer that’s an adaptation of Alice in Wonderland. But if you watch it or look it up, you’re gonna need a lot of therapy after that and it makes McGee’s Alice look like Dora the Explorer compared to it.
Just from looking at clips of the film, it’s probably going to be one of those films where I’d definitely be sleeping with the lights on afterwards.
I really hated the Mulan remake. What's the point of this story if she's a strong and capable fighter from the start?!? All the songs are gone, and they cut out the funniest character, Mushu. I avoided the Lion King one entirely. That one should not even exist. The stage musical is so much more creative and stands on its own compared to the animated movie. I was fortunate enough to be able to see that as a kid.
Avoid Lion King like the plague. You aren’t missing anything and the only good part I can say is that Simba yelling is hilarious
Remember seeing the ads in early 2010 and thought it looked meh, thank god I instantly skipped it. The end result is a train wreck, yet became a billion dollar hit. The sequel on the other hand, bombed horribly and not even muppets most wanted director James Bobin was able to save it!!!
At least Mia Wasikowska went on to be in Crimson Peak, one of Guillermo del Toro’s most underrated films in my opinion.
Agreed
Alice's pet in the silent shorts was not Felix the Cat. His name was Julius.
He was a very blatant Felix clone tough, so not that much of a difference lol
Not gonna lie, even though I know they're not that good, I have a giant soft spot for the two live-action AIW movies. I saw the first one in theaters with my family, it was one of the first 3D movies I saw, and I watched it all the time when having sleepovers with my cousin. The second one is the same, as I also watched it with my family.
I can't bring myself to dislike these movies, they have a special place in my heart. Plus, they do the one thing modern live-action remakes don't: it actually tries to be different and stand out in its own way as opposed to recreating iconic scenes from the original and screaming "REMEMBER THIS?!?!?!"
If Wonderland had to be real, I wish they could've handled it in a similar fashion to the Ni No Kuni games (if you've played/heard of them). It'd be more interesting if they played with Wonderland being a bizarre reflection of the real world.
Ahh yes, the legend of the futterwacken lives on...
Both this movie and the sequel feel more like deep cut remakes of the Adventures in Wonderland show from the 1990s. The series basically follows the same formula of Alice dealing with a problem in the real world before going into Wonderland where she partakes in strange adventures with its inhabitants that revolve around the situation that she is dealing with at home and then uses what she learns there to solve her issues in real life.
Was it animated? Because I could only see it being animated for the crazy stuff you could see in Wonderland
@@zeldagameryt4018 it was a live action tv show on Disney Channel starring Elizabeth Harnois as Alice
@@eamonclark4952 Huh, odd.
My favorite Alice In Wonderland adaptation is the 1933 live-action one with Charlotte Henry. It was the reason why Walt Disney didn't make the Live-action Animated one he was planning for his first film. I do have nostalgic fondness for this one, but I know it's got flaws, and it started a big Disney Live-action dump. Loved the review 👏
Wait so Walt was thinking of making a live action/animation hybrid adaptation?
@@txwtwYes. He wanted it to be like his Alice Comedies series where the main character is a live-action character interacting with 2D characters in a 2D setting.
I'd so much rather re-watch Charlie and the Chocolate Factory over this Boring remake to Alice in Wonderland and shockingly to some people I'd never liked the animated Alice in Wonderland
But the Question is what is worse? Live Action Disney Adaptions or Public Domain Parodies like Blood and Honey & Mickeys Mouse Trap?
What amazes me is the lack of imagination behind the very premise of the story. It is literally all about slaying a dragon. Why would you waste Wonderland on slaying a dragon? Considering all the madcap stuff you can do with Wonderland, you pick the most clichéd fantasy story. The fact there is no character arc for Alice nor does Alice really do much more than the most bare bones interaction with her environment just makes it all the worse.
Really, it was successful because of the name, and many of the remakes were success because of their names. However, I do think we've reached the point of diminishing returns. The Little Mermaid might've made money, but not nearly as much as the others. We will see what happens with Snow White.
Raisorblade in Wonderland!
I may have only seen this movie once years ago, and even I was not a fan of the whole prophecy idea. It doesn't fit with the bizarre chaos of Wonderland and it just sounds so dull.
The only thing good about this movie in my opinion is Johnny Depp’s performance as the Mad Hatter. He captured what the spirit of the Mad Hatter was in the movie mixed in with how they portrayed him in the books. Brilliant. Other than that is movie is fine. Only fine.
Never was really a fan of this movie the first time I saw it. I thought that it was just an okay movie. But you're right that this movie at least tried to do something different unlike Disney's later live-action movies, which are mostly mainly copy and paste of their original work just with unnecessary changes.
Here's a better idea on a live action remake, Big Hero 6 and make it Marvel!
I'll see this movie. I was restarted and I I did man's to watch it when I was AA kid. I think around like 12 years old and I generally forgot about it. And frankly, no one has even talked about it since, like at all
This movie seems to have the effect that Schaffrillas calls “Phantom Menacing”, where a movie comes out that is objectively bad, but at the time, everybody was trying to convince themselves that it was a good movie, and tries to block out any problems that are in the movie. However, over time, they start to realize the movie’s true colors and shortcomings, and they now call it a bad movie, which was what it always was the moment it came out.
I'd remembered Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland and it's Okay
it's Nowhere near as Great as Nightmare Before Christmas and or Corpse Bride
I never wanted to strangle 8 year me so bad in my life. I may have fond memories of playing pretend with my sisters where one of us was Alice or the queens, but I don’t think the decay of modern entertainment was worth it tbh. Also I had a crush on the Mad Hatter back then and now I regret it.
You just look back at your younger self and pull a Homer Simpson
I didn’t hate the remakes as much as I should, but this is one of the few that I refuse to defend.
How so?/genq
Can you do a video about "Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron"? 🙂❤️
While I am in no way going to defend Walt Disney for his business practices and stance on Unions and how he treated his workers, I will at least say that what puts him above Iger and other modern CEO's (if only slightly) is his actual ambition and risk taking nature.
You'll never see Iger use the profits of these billion dollar successes to fund an arthouse film like "Fantasia," or try developing an entire city that was intended to become an advancement on civilization.
I do think Walt would be smart enough to take advantage of these products, using them as a foundation for financial stability while using their excessive profits to fund more creative and ambitious films he was passionate about and his more "out there" ideas.
Love him or hate him, he got things done, and didn't just sit around on his money pile.
So this is what you meant when you said Walt made a remake.
Yeah, I don’t think I’d count that in the same regard as the remakes we’re getting now. I don’t even know if those old Alice films were made when Disney (company) was a thing. All you have in the terms of a remake is that they’re based on the same thing. So I wouldn’t say Walt made a remake and would agree with current Disney’s plans, based on that at least.
But this stuff about the strike does seem more believable in terms of evidence (more so than a certain other thing Walt is accused of) and even though I still do believe that Disney was better paying than other animation studios at the time, clearly that just means others had to be worse.
Either that or we’re just so used to hating on corporate leaders that we ignore all other details. (Hopefully joking here)
i know that the plot is bu*lshit but i still like this movie
0:09 the stock is the lowest it’s been in DECADES and the 100 year anniversary was a joke, he would totally hate it.
The killer bean meme had cought me off Guard it's funny 😂😂😂😂😂
To be fair, this was amazing because it was a sequel. Most of the other films were terrible because they remade (relatively) recent films with too much changed or little to change, or were reimaginings that, while fine as standalones, took the bite out of the original characters.
It's only a sequel in a spiritual sense though. It's not an actual literal sequel.
@@vetarlittorf1807 True.
Your about one early Disney remakes at least try to be different which is more than what I could say about a lot of the latest Disney remakes doesn’t make this movie suck less hey a for effort I guess personally I prefer cinderella 2015 and jungle book 2016 which I can’t wait for you to get to those
That cat in 1920s is Julius not Felix I know it looks like Felix but it's not
I like you Tim Burton but… I don’t know about this. If you ask me, I’d just keep playing Alice: Madness Returns. That game is so damn good for an Alice in wonderland adaptation.
Also the marketing was mostly talking about Johnny Depp’s character because it’s Johnny Depp stardom money obviously.
looking back on the Tim Burton live action Alice in Wonderland it's just Okay for what it was the Sequel on the other hand NOT so much
so your going to review all disney remakes after this right?
I've never liked the old animated version 1951. But i LOVE Alice in Wonderland 2010. Cinderella (2015) was beautiful. The Maleficent movies and Cruella (2021) was good too. But the other live action remakes SUCKED! Beauty and The Beast (2017), Lion King (2019), Aladdin (2019), Mulan (2020), all these were TERRIBLE! They had no hearts or souls. The magic wasn't there. And Snow White (2025) will ABSOLUTELY BE THE WORST MOVIE EVER! But anyway, i like this one. ❤
7:33 to 7:41 - OMG, I totally forgot it had merch!!! 🤯🤯🤯
I thought the live-action Wonderland was pretty good upon release. But rewatching it recently, the amazement isn't there anymore...
9:22 “We can’t fully blame the studio for that one.”
Well I can since I never saw the Lion King Remake, but Imma still blame all of ya’ll that did watch it too.
What could definitely work better if Disney remade their bad films from the past like for example, Home on The Range or Chicken Little.
I'm gonna be honest, I've never cared about these live-action remakes like yes I agree with everyone else that the jungle book remake is the best of the remakes. But outside of that I've never cared about these remakes. The only purpose of these remakes is just for us to go back in time and see those classics. But yeah nice to see where these remakes began
To be honest I thought this movie was pretty cool to see excepelly Tim burton style and the cool 3D expression but to be honest this is why people should see Tron legacy instead because we could’ve stop these remakes form beginning
20:13 Omg, Sinbad Legend of the Seven Seas, my childhood!!😮🥳
*ahem* Anyways, a nice analysis. I didn't ever really feel one way or another about Tim Burton's AIW. I saw it first time with a bunch of friends, it was a fun night, and that's about it.
Godzilla X Kong Gives Giant Monster More Expression then LA Lion King!?
I feel like Walt would on board with using AI if it meant he didn’t need to spend as much money paying writers. Although, I feel he would be strongly against the woke themes mostly out of his more dated social views.
And the fact they're doing live action with httyd especially makes me worried. One cuz dreamwok is gonna run with that trend now and two cuz it's going to miss why the franchise was unique in the first place
this is for me the best one i mean crispin glover atee in this movie the visuals were amazing so its a 8 ,9/10
for me its just a movie i can turn off my brain
It’s not that remakes are an inherently bad thing. Peter Jackson’s King Kong is A great film. With some of the best world building I’ve ever seen. But King Kong at least tried something new.
Remakes are only justified when they need to be reintroduced to the public consciousness. The problem with the Disney remakes is that their source materials are classics that still remain relevant to modern audience. Cinderella managed to somewhat justify its existence by being less emotion-driven and more character-driven than the original. The Jungle Book remake was essentially just the original but with a longer plot and a darker tone, but it didn't really do the story justice or do anything clever. The wolves are given more screen time, but they don't really do anything. They wanted Mowgli's struggle to be external rather than internal like it was in the original, but in doing so they removed his complex and sympathetic character. So that remake failed to justify itself. But after that, the remakes pretty much just stopped trying.
Missed opportunity to make a "Mila Wazowski" joke
This was the best part of the video 22:38
Yeah, there is a possibility that Walt Disney probably would have liked this new direction. So all of these oversensitive lunatics can stop accusing Disney of “s#%tting on Walt Disney’s grave” every time Disney World makes any changes.
And we thought Tim Burton's Willy Wonka remake was bad!
Are you kidding I'd find Charlie and the Chocolate Factory More entertaining then Alice in Wonderland
9:30 Actually back then, people still had lost interest in Disney. I mean sure, we had Princess and the Frog which came out the year before, but that didn’t do so well. I’d say it wasn’t until Tangled when Disney regained everyone’s hope.
Those remakes need to stop
I actually kinda liked this movie.
The actor who played Alfred in the live action movies in the 90's had his final role in this film as the dodo.
If only we could go back in time and prevent this movie from turning a profit.
After hearing the story from reviews and clips (mainly NC’s review on it) I think the story is sound and some of the character designs are pretty good for being live action, it’s just that everything else is pretty bad. But at least it’s better than the remakes we have now
Are you a fan of fnaf?
I have a difficult history with this movie I liked it as a kid but has I got older and watched the nostalgia critic review yeah its bad
Jack saint made a great video about this movie,explains why this movie sucks at writing.
I recently had the realization that this movie is arguably the most important film that Bob Iger has ever greenlit. Like this is the movie that changed everything for Disney, the one that led them onto their gradual downward spiral to the sorry state they’re in now. So thanks Bob Iger, you destroyed the Disney empire without anyone noticing
Oh i cant way for the uncontrollable rage from this man once he gets to the "maleficent" movie (if he even does it at all)
18:37-18:41 Paul Attrakis: *SILENCE!!!!*
What’s the footage with the frog at 12:39?
AWESOME REACTION OF MY FAVORITE JOHNNY DEPP MOVIE!!!!!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
22:10 people made p*** of these two
11:48 Mike Wazowski?
30:07 NOO-
You put Iger in the same category as Walt Disney? Well, you people are destroying Disney so hopefully soon it'll be gone and you'll be happy.
The sequel of that remake is better
REVIEW Velma 2023
@@matthewdaley746 he has to
@@matthewdaley746 season 2 is already out
NO GOD NO you want Raiderblade pissed off as I am I've Sat through Season 2 of Velma and it pissed me off
@@BlitzDemonGamer3032 it's justice ⚖️