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Somebody tell Eli If he wanna see some wild stuff being said by women of other races on the same topic discussed listen to the whatever podcast. I agree with bro but other women of other races say this same stuff too
@@BESTEHSTUBA Sure, but they did talk about other races though. In fact the comparison to other women of other races is made a lot. Im just providin evidence for what Juee said and defending black women.
@@naturallykiera5063that's the problem everything always have to be about money when I understand money is supposed to be a tool but family supposed to be more important than money
They ask hypothetical questions and then get mad at the answer. Most men are saying they dont wanna be married but wanna knock women for making the SAME CHOICE MOST MEN WOULD SAY. Dudes would choose money over getting married. Lets be honest.
@@MrDrose444 So you will choose getting married over a million dollars? Lol. Ok brother. Salute. Most men would take the money and all the hoez that come with it. Isnt that what high value men do? The manosphere constantly says rich men gonna sleep around. It doesnt say they want to be in committed relationships.....
So men should be ok with women who put their focus into careers if marriage is out of the question. There’s consequences to everything. The more men whose mindset change for the masses there will be a rebuttal effect and vice versa with womens mindset changing in large.. such as refusing sex and or barring children.
I didn’t disagree with the fact that we hear it from our women more … but to even believe that other groups of women ain’t saying it (whites,Chinese, Hispanic ) they don’t need a man is crazy
@DailyRapUpCrew Ask ELI TO LOOK UP FRESH AND FIT THEY HAVE MORE NON BLACK GIRLS ON THEY SHOW BECAUSE THEY DONT LOKE BLACK WOMEN BUT I CAN BET YOULL HEAR AND SEE THE SAME RHETORIC. HE JUST GOT TONDOBTHE RESEARCH.
@@DailyRapUpCrewbro they not going to the internet and bashing they men thi that's the point bro ain't saying it doesn't happen in other cultures but you bugging fam if you think black woman dont do it the most out of all groups and proudfully
STOP THE CAP @EZPEEZY9686...You know as well as the rest of the country in which we live. Our black women in this country are the worst...however, with frank and honest conversations, it can get better. Use data next time and try to be forthright accordingly.
@mountaintop0925 use data but the data that you use to come to your assumptions are skewed..do you analyze the variables of the statistics you gather or you just read something and run with it? As an analyst of 10+ years I know that you can manipulate numbers and data to get whatever output you want. And from my experience as a black woman with a majority of black women all around me I know for a fact that the stereotypes among black woman only pertain to the most ratchet of them. Also, you can also find the same attitudes placed on black women within other ethnicities it is just more acceptable because they are more sought after.
I think checking out the whatever podcast may show you that it is more of a generational thing than a black thing. Also fresh and fit usually have more non black girls on there and they spew the same rhetoric. The reason why you don’t see other women is because you don’t go looking for it. Everybody is dealing with just as many problems as we are. The divorce rates is more prominent among white people too so just because they get marry does not mean they retain the relationship. If you are not going to actually do the research on other races, I don’t think it really helps in bringing them up to try and debate a topic. America is having a hard time relationally regardless of color and if you only want to be with black women then stop bringing up everyone else.
I totally agree. They mouth say they want black women but their actions is to tear down the black women so they already have their excuse on why they date outside of their race.
@@yaffehbendaud I think them publicizing it may be because of us but they have always had their own problems. Asian women date outside their races higher than anyone. White women is the reason why we have feminism now and I am sure there are many other problems everyone else has. My only problem with anyone bringing up other races is that they only spew narratives to back up their POV. Everyone is falling apart when its comes to relationships and to just say it is a black people thing to me is ignorant/disingenuous.
Eli is incomplete with his statement, BW may be the most vocal but they didn't kick off this we're better than men mentality it kicked off with WW and Feminism, who are the main demographics involved when u see these feminist protests, parades, and demonstrations, it ain't BW its mainly White, Asian, and Hispanic...I understand your point Eli but it ain't just BW.....Truth in the Details
Exactly…BW might say it but they are not the ones actually making the moves to change laws BW are saying it based off bad experiences/actions/ disappointments of their father/uncles/peers/neighbors/classmates/partners.. Esp when you are from the hood..bad examples all around u Most BW never seen a decent Well mannered guy
These conversations are becoming way too emotionally charged. Everyone giving their subjective opinions is kinda cringe tbh. We don’t need to know your weird relationship goals and disgusting deep thoughts
Modern Jezebels : "Men don't communicate" Also Modern Jezebels : "Men that speak their mind are sassy and in their feminine" "Speak their mind" to a Jezebel means "arguing with a woman" Me : 🤔🙄😒🤦🏾♂️🙏🏽
Eli is so feminine , he literally has a issue when it come to black women for every single thing . Ace to me is almost useless because he’s always asking idiotic questions with a smirk as if he’s there just to play devils advocate. Jeuu is ok . But these women really touched on topics I hear a lot of my friends discussing and everything was a pushback as to say it’s not true . How can you sit there and tell me something isn’t true when it’s a constant topic for debate, or something so many women discuss ? Like we’re not a docile group of women . It’s like none of them really wanna be held accountable which was the topic Dr Umar touched on
I am bored with this childish deflection. Of course all nationalities do this dance but that is NOT my concern because I am a black Man and My concern are our Black women and OUR community. Other races are free to conduct their business anyway they wish but Our women NEED to stand accountable for their behavior and conduct within the black family dynamic not point fingers at other cultures in an attempt to duck their responsibility. Jeuu is correct it's not only Black women, but as Black Men our focus should always be on our own. We have a big mess to clean up and no other culture cares what we do so stop deflecting and get to it.
It means run the fade to a guy who catcalls them while they’re out in their skimpy dress that her man asked her not to wear but she wore anyway because he can’t tell her what to do.
Im a woman, it means dont dismiss me when i say how i feel unless im doing it in the wrong way. Make sure i dont walk on the outside of the sidewalk. Prove that youre faithful and other women cannot tempt you to ruin what we are trying to build. Check on me sometimes when im out asking "you okay?". Try to be as less judgemental as possible and as patient as possible when it comes to pregancy and the ups and downs we have during it. If you notice a creepy guy before i do, create a little distance by standing next to me according to what side they on and tell me to be alert. Dont approach them. Dont bring me to a place or situation where i will be physically harmed. U dont always have to throw hands, tbh me personally i prefer my partner to not bcuz that might end his life. I'll tell him straight up i felt uncomfortable with a situation but all i need is conformt not him potentially getting hurt. Lead in initiating safe sex, that lets me know you arent trying to make me a baby mother fist, or at all, but a wife if you see fit. Things like this makes women feel safe, we feel secure with u.
These hypotheticals are getting out of hand... Eli and Ace too focus on the talking points that they believe they have, to one up on their guest instead of engaging in the conversation. UNDERSTANDING NUANCE INSTEAD OF HAVING AN ARGUMENT BASED ON STATISTICS OR PROJECTING PERSONAL EXPERIENCE , WHILE ASKING RHETORICAL OR ANECDOTAL QUESTIONS WILL NEVER LEAD TO THE ANSWER YOU NEED BUT MORE SO THE ANSWERS THEY WANNA HEAR
Women will call you what you let them. Set boundaries early and it won’t be a problem. my ex wife would say shorty ( she’s from Chicago). About 3 weeks of being called that I was no ma’am I’m nobody’s shorty. Deaded it and it’s never uttered to me subsequent to that moment.
If you brought the problematic women of other groups like you bring the problematic women in the black population, you would get the same thing. I su3d to believe that until I I to college. Then I saw the messy women of other groups. They were just as bad and at times, worse.
Ive learned that women will never get the simple obvious truths us men will get. Stop debating with them. Show case the truth they should follow & i guarantee they’ll all get the truth by then :) podcasts goin in circles for profit . It’s dope, but yea, fellas gotta do the next best thing
I like this episode. I would have to add that if women had that father figure, they key part of that interaction to me is that the child will be able to internalize what it sounds like to be criticized by someone who loves you. Which will help in fostering relationships with those who criticizes who they love.
I think women need more practice in relationships with me and how to deal with them period. but the idea that fatherless women never receive criticism is absurd. Our mother's discipline us. The issue is some women don't know how to receive criticism from a MALE, not that they don't know how to receive it at all. Most women can easily accept constructive criticism from other women.
1:09:11 No matter how rich you are, you will never want to be alone. You may not get married but your always going to want some type of companionship. THERE IS NO POINT IN HAVING EVERYTHING AND NO ONE TO SHARE IT WITH. I DONT KNOW VERY MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE HAPPY ALONE.
I really wish you all would stop projecting! If you desire companionship/ marriage that’s fine! But everyone doesnt desire that, and that is okay too. Some ppl have done the marriage, some have done the relationship, and it didn’t workout for whatever reason, so now they are at a point in life where they are perfectly happy being single. Some singles live a life that you couldn’t fathom,.. some have family & friends they rely on who love them. Everybody isn’t single at home crying lmaooo!
@goodvibezz9216 you clearly didn't read my whole comment.. because I said companionship and no one's projecting. You don't have to be in relationship at all... however nobody in this life wants to be alone trully. All that big talk with about independence and rather be alone is all lies. Its just talk. It's sounds good but in reality no trully wants to be alone. Studies and people smarter then myself have proven people need interactions with others to survive and live a healthy life. REALITY THOSE SAME PEOPLE WHO CLAIM WOULD LOVE TO BE BY THEMSELVES WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMEONE TO SHARE IT WITH
@@antoniohooks8866 YOU desire a companion, and that's great for YOU! Yes we all need human interaction and you can have plenty of that without being in a relationship! Marriage/ relationships isn't for everybody otherwise we would be born with the promise of a partner! Relationships/marriages are not promised nor are they guaranteed to last! Singleness is certainly a state where individuals can definitely be happy and have a wonderful life. Society wants us to believe you can't and has always pushed marriage for the benefit of society, just like its being pushed now for the benefit of bm & the sake of the "black community." SMH Independence is just being an adult! Being able to be self sufficient financially, because most women in times past relied on men for survival. Many having to endure the hardships (whatever that looks like) of that dependence. So now yes, some women are choosing singleness & avoiding being tied down to bogus marriages just for the sake of appeasing society, BM, or the community! And how about sharing the link of the "study" that proves otherwise.
@@antoniohooks8866 Companionship is 100% PLATONIC so you can have that with a variety of people that you're related or not related to of either sex/gender.
@goodvibezz9216 you again or going back to a relationship and projecting bitter and hurt people ideology. You're not being realistic. But rightfully so you're entitled to your opinion
Right ! Cause these NY women have lost their mind ! and really take it to the next level and get some moms on the show that are WITH the baby daddy stay at home moms we need to mix it up 🤷🏾♀️
45:10 It's not that single mother households don't have a male role model. It's that single PARENT households have no to little role models due to work schedules required to raise a family on one person's income.
Modern Jezebels : "Men shouldn't worry about a woman's body count" Also Modern Jezebels : "Why can't he blow my back out like the last man (Tyrone) I fornicated with?" Me : 🤔🙄😒🤦🏾♂️🙏🏽
Eli I gotta say something thats been bothering me. I think you accuse your guests way too often of being toxic or having negative traits you see in other toxic women they you might have heard on your show or somewhere else online. I think at that point you're looking for something to disagree with because although there are alot of women online who push false narratives.... I understand that alot of women who join your panel don't even have those same held beliefs. Like if we are promoting balance between the sexes i don't think its fair to accuse those black women of having toxic values before they even gave their opinion fully. It would kinda be the same thing as a women accusing you of being sassy or dusty. Also... What was your reasoning for saying this at 1:02:15. First off. The idea that just because the first women chose money over marriage does not imply that her morals and values are somehow less than yours because she literally stated out her own mouth that she would still want marriage but she would still be richer in the process. Thats not toxic how you are promoting it. And then when she tried to clarify you told her that you dont care. I think at that point how are we supposed to hold ourselves accountable if we are accuse women of being toxic when they aren't even showing toxic traits.
I agree with Eli over Jeuu . Our women are the most out of pocket . The most unmarried group of women but complain about the top 5% of men marrying outside their race and ignore the other 95% that would love to marry them.
I hate listening to hypothetical conversations. These guys are speaking from experience clearly and projecting it onto these women and want answers for their experience. Everyone is different, if we're bumping into men and women with similar toxic traits from the past, we cannot blame them, we have to change ourselves and figure out what we're putting out there to attraction these people and situations.
Ppl have to stop with this rhetoric. You can observe what’s happening from the outside to be able to speak on the dynamics between man n woman. Also it isn’t always yourself thats the problem. Thats like saying you walk into a place and 80/100 of the ppl in there are bad but you’re the bad one because you bumped into 5 bad ones straight. No just a majority of them are bad n its more probable for you to run into them. Needle in a haystack.
Saying that a singe mother can't be feminine is crazy. My mother was very feminine and didn't choose to be a single mother. My father choice that for her. He actually decided to end a 3 year engagement. He liked hyper independent women and my mom was too feminine for him. HE even tried to break my feminine ways my mother instill in me to be hyper independent. So stop blaming women for everything.
18:50 I'm going to repeat what I heard on another video today. As a woman, "I don't work to put food on the table, I work to put Whole Foods on the table". I work to add money to our lifestyle so WE can live better. And afford some kids. 2 incomes are better than one.
Y’all Have To Realize That Everyone Doesn’t Believe In Gender Roles, Everyone Isn’t Traditional ! So If Both People Work Both Can Do Things In The House & Both Can Pay Bills, If That Works For Them .. The Conversation Needs To Be Had Before Both People Choose To Be In A Relationship, That Would Remove Any Expectations :)
The problem isn’t if both work, the issue lies on the fact that even modern women want traditional man or men who uphold those values, they want their cake & eat it too. No matter the tax bracket,ideology they’re following(feminism/liberalism) women still want a masculine traditional man, but don’t care what that men want. “IF WE BOTH WORKING,HELP AROUND THE HOUSE” Women like to throw this complaint in these debates, as if men want them to be working😅 men want traditional women, that stay at home, but women’s ego today is so high, that they can’t let a man lead and be the sole provider cus they fear the man will leave them, even tho it’s statistically unrealistic😂
@@unpopular2 why focus on the exceptions and not the rule? I’m talking I’m general, most men in America and the world, still want a traditional relationship, most still uphold a traditional views,but most women aren’t traditional or hold traditionalism, cus its agaisnt feminism and all the freedoms,advantages and oportunities women gained by following it, that’s why most men don’t even show it and adapt to women today, since women are working, they ask 50/50, cus they don’t get reciprocated anymore,but the ideal of what men want is still traditional, today women want the man to show her he’s capable before she gives him something in return😑, like; “I’m gonna be masculine until I meet the right man”🤡
I think the main problem is women do want men to be traditional at times then to break that tradition at other times. Meanwhile they(women don’t want to be traditional. This simply does not work - maybe we can adapt to it but women seem to want it both ways so it’s up to them to choose and stick with one
@@williamthell5930 There are lots of women who want to stay at home. When Steve Harvey suggested a woman not providing and a man taking care of her, most men (BM in particular) dragged him across the internet. Y'all don't want traditional housewives. Y'all want them traditional as far as submission but y'all want them modern as far as being willing to go half on the bills and/or being able to move into HER house instead of building or buying your own. Many of y'all can't fix anything or build anything yourselves so she still has to call someone and pay them to fix stuff in the house.
@@Ayommari NO, again, those are the exceptions not the rule,most men want traditional and are traditional, the internet doesn’t represent to whole population of men, plus your talking about men who watch Steve Harvey, that man has been giving women bad terrible advice for decades and bad for men too, those men are simply being realistic, that having one single breadwinner, a man has to make a lot, and the average income is 50k, either they choose to live an average life, or have two incomes for a better life in this economy, but it doesn’t mean men don’t want it. But its definitely on the women to decide if she wants 50k or not. Cus men will live on 50k or even 30k, being simple
Sometimes, having these conversations with younger women without experience in life makes no sense. The young ladies truly have lots to learn about life. So, asking them certain questions makes them appear to be stupid because their not qualified to really give a good answer or proper advice about relationships. Not speaking bad about these young ladies.
percentages are based off of a small group of people. There is no way that the percentages are based off of everyone. I aint never taken a survey. They never got my stats.
Man I definitely rock with y'all show I really like the guess y'all have and the topics y'all discuss I really have a lot of input on a lot of the topics that you guys talked about and it's just so interesting how different a lot of us think about a lot of the topics that y'all have keep doing what y'all doing and I do hope to put my two cents in very soon
Eli made a great point, women of other races have higher marriage rates. You barely see other races of women speak the way black women speak. I don't see an Asian shade room or a white or even Spanish shade room.
@@Theworldismine5 stop capping cuz bout black men all nation wanted by others nation of women So-called black are not so keep that moving. Stop with nonsense
It’s the same talking points every episode! For every stat quoted please include the links of where this info is retrieved cuz I swear these stats lmaoooo! Please have a different panel of men, men who are successful & also successful women! And let them tell us about the dating market.
Because that's way too much work. They don't do polls or even research actual polls. It takes a college education to be able to know how to properly execute and break down a poll. I am curious as to what these men's jobs/career path were prior to becoming podcast kings.
I do wnna say I do think Ths is a good podcast I like the conversations.. I be wanting to be apart of the conversation it’s good topics n I like to debate n watch it happen as well .. Once u have us viewers debating u got a good thing lol So Salute to these Guys n if they Frm NYC even bigger Applause lol Cus I Love My City n my Ppl 🗽💯💪🏾🩵✨
I don’t think the “women have no role models” holds up. There’s Michelle Obama, there’s Jemele Hill, there’s Beyoncé, there’s Megan thee Stallion w/ her philanthropic work, there’s Issa Rae, there’s Yvonne Orji, there’s Shonda Rhimes, there’s Rhianna, there’s Marsai Martin, there’s Trace Ellis Ross, there’s Taylor Rooks for sports journalism…there’s dozens of good female role models across all different types of industries.
You’re just not content with what he has they can be happy if you would just be content, but we can’t control your content and what you value so we’ll never be happy but go off queen 🤜🏿🤛🏾 58:27
The question should be would you rather be “rich and single” OR “middle class and happily married”? (And the husband will always be middle class, they always say they will try and build him up).
I can't lie. Dr Umar kinda ruined this channel for me. Y'all talking about the same shit over and over. We have to progress to the bigger conversations
Eli right, those other women just talk because it's trending, black women actually practice....... Eli said Jeuu that he only hear that from black women, never said Most bro
I’ve watched several of these shows and I find these men to be extremely biased, rude, condescending and factually incorrect. Fact, the majority of black women want to date and marry black men. While the majority of black men do not want to marry black women…date or impregnate is different. These men act they speak for all black men and they, they also use very skewed so called “studies” when they refer to certain issues. The CDC is not all in composing. You do not see any other race of men, like black men, who speak about their women in such a negative light like they do. White women do not have to consider money when marrying, because their men (white) that are the highest earner or who have the potential to out earn any other race. Being single does not equate to unhappiness. These men act like they are a prize and they are not. You say black women act “ masculine” but when questioned you cannot clearly define what that means. You take certain characteristics or adjectives and call it masculine.
I respect jeuu for his position, but the stereotypes surrounding black women didnt come out of nowhere. We see the unruly, combative behavior from them every day. We grew up seeing it, hearing it, and experiencing it. It’s not to say it doesn’t happen in other communities because westernized women are generally a handful, but it’s definitely more pronounced with black women. That’s a real problem.
We need new conversations in the black community right now. How many podcasts are going to keep talking about the same topics over and over again and neither side is willing to change or improve nor take accountability. Until we’re ready to move forward, this conversation will go nowhere
@@sethbrolsma516 that has absolutely nothing to do with it. It just doesn’t need to be on a public platform all the time. And what are you really exposing?” But I digress, there are some not intelligent enough to have conversations for the betterment of both parties. These are round about conversations going nowhere.
@@flawed2001 with therapy, GOD, healing the past/traumas, that’s first. Too many black folks walking around with all this trauma and bitterness. How do we become better women and men for society in general. Building wealth. Creating legacy, so we can compete and not be left behind. Showing our kids a different, better way. I can go on and on but until we’re ready to heal, These conversations will go nowhere. We are the only people that will not unify. Let’s stop dividing. I know that may not be the popular conversation to have with algorithms and all, but it’s really about healing the community because if not, we will become more divided and fail. Just my opinion. I’m not on RUclips a lot, I’m in these spaces though talking to different people and no one else is having these type of conversations on public platforms except for us. We have got to do better.
50/50 relationship is not really a possibility because the higher cost of maintenance for the basic body hygiene of a woman, even the adoptability of a girl child is more demanding for a single male person or a couple.
U won’t get no where off of hopes n prayers my ancestors were begging n praying to this unknown entity that never been here n look wat happened to them so innerstand wat u do today determines your future u your own god y’all better start comprehending that 💯
@@taqeemhilton well then who in the community is husband material biblically? Lol not many. If that’s the case biblical soon to be husbands would’ve already found their biblical wives and this debate wouldn’t even be relevant.
@radiantgoldensun6438 smh, you just contradicted yourself. The majority of modern women are worshipping the Jezebel Spirit & women out number men. By that common knowledge, this means that the godly Bible following men doesn't have much to choose from. Why would a godly man who's trying to obey & follow the standards & laws of the Bible waste his time on the majority of today's modern women?
@@radiantgoldensun6438 it’s not a man’s job to “make” a woman a wife. She should already know how to be a man’s wife by simply following the biblical standards set in place in the Bible.
Jeuu is becoming a panderer. It's obvious not ALL black women! But we can only talk about the women in OUR community because that's who deal with closely. Neither of you have any idea what the other communities are struggling with and doing!! So Eli is correct in his assessment as He has well versed in dealing with OUR women just like YOU Jeuu smfh
Lol everyone entitled to they own opinion but he said that only black women are saying they don’t need a man and I replied all women are saying the stupid shit lol if me takin it off of just black women rather than holding all accountable than I guess imma panda bear lol you sound ridiculous if u ask me
@@DailyRapUpCrew If I sound ridiculous then you're obviously not as smart as I thought you was brother! Point out any ridiculous statement I made when it comes to recognizing the issues with OUR women in OUR community! And why we always have to throw in other groups when we talking about correcting our own. 90% if only date OUR women smfh
If a guy isn't holding up his part, why are you with them? You choose to be aggressive versus just leaving to find someone who can live up to what you feel he needs to once that guy has proven he can't. You choose to be resentful and choose to behave more masculine and choose to stay with him. Those are all choices you don't have to choose.
Men need to take that same advice and date women who are what you're looking for and want the lifestyle you want. It's wayyyyyy too many men out here making shit hard for everyone else by constantly harassing women who don't want them and don't care to live the lifestyle they're looking for. But men think they have a right to try to mold women into something they're not for their own personal pleasure and that attitude is why a lot of women are just annoyed with men altogether. Dudes claim they want traditional women but refuse to get with traditional women and harass and demonize "modern" women instead as if that's gonna do anything but make women dislike men even more than we already do.
@@joannamonique707 Most guys aren't dating. They are either married or not getting any action. The ones who are getting play from chicks aren't usually the ones complaining. Of the ones who are getting chicks but are still complaining, yeah you're right, they do need to pursue the women they claim to want instead of trying to change the chicks they are wanting to fuck. There's a difference between trying to change someone and trying to mold them. We all mold and manipulate the people around us. It's not a bad thing. We are all different, so we have to be dealt with differently. Maybe 80% of how we treat people is based on generalizations, but the other 20% is based on that individual person. So you will have to mold the person to be the 20% that is unique to you. It's not a bad thing. We all want to be treated special by those in our lives, especially those we are in a relationship with. Toxic people can misuse it, for sure, but most people don't.
@@joannamonique707 I don't believe most guys are demonizing chicks, modern or otherwise. Most are simply state their gripes. There will always be some hurt guys that do actually attack chicks, but they are just a loud minority. But there's a loud minority on both sides. The majority on both sides need to come together and discuss and listen and figure out middle ground and concessions. The extremists on either side never will, so let them be lonely and angry by themselves. The rest of us don't have to be. We don't have to choose sides. We can actually live and love in reality.
I gotta agree with Jeuu on this one it ain't just black women saying that shit even doe I hear Ace when he talking about the majority even doe I do think it is but Eli can't say " he doesn't hear other groups saying it"
I haven’t watched a single second of this video, but I will say this- The Nuclear Family, at least in the American sense, is an ANOMALY. Have you heard the phrase “It takes a village to raise a child”? In ancient civilizations, or even just going back to the 1800s, most societies had towns/cities/villages where children could could be in a place other than their parents’ home, or school, unsupervised- or at least not have their every action monitored. Children can no longer walk around in packs of their peers. In America, cities are barely walkable. A car is almost always a necessity to get to anywhere fast without being exhausted. Aunts, uncles, and close friends can’t really supervise a person’s child because almost everyone has to work. Expanding upon that last point, at least up until the 1980s there could reliably be one parent in the home of a nuclear family to raise a child who wasn’t exhausted- because dual income households weren’t a necessity. Think about how often it is the case where both parents work and the kids are at daycare being raised by someone else, or the school system via extracurriculars. The concept of the Nuclear Family requires each new group of parents to leave *their* parents’ house to get their own. From the 1940s post WWII Baby Boom there have been at least three blocs of generations who’ve “left the nest” and gotten their own homes. The Baby Boomers are only JUST now passing away and leaving houses behind, while three, almost 4 generations have been expected to pair up and get houses… is this sustainable? There’s only so much land and private property that exists, and these homes are either usually large and expensive or overpriced places that can only be rented. There’s hardly any sensible, affordable “starter homes”. I haven’t talked about the costs of the child, itself and sacrifices that must be made. Throughout history almost every successful civilization has been agrarian. Having a child, especially a male, meant an extra hand on the farm, fields or hunting game. This is no longer the case. Having a child in the modern world is a financial LIABILITY for 18 years at the very least, and as I stated before, with almost everyone having to work to live even into their 50s and 60s, you can’t always lend them over to someone else when you feel you need free time. Modern cities are not in any way child-friendly as towns and villages were. Our government has shown that they do not GAF about children in many ways. We have a super bloated military budget but children with cancer are relying on fundraising via WalMart for treatment. There’s no free school lunch for them… it’s just ridiculous. The Nuclear Family arose from the same place as unfettered capitalism. Free-reign capitalism is not conducive to family formation.
This is why I appreciate other cultures and ethnicities that cherish us Black Queens because to our so called black man we are angry black trifling woman and it’s fucking sad. That man did only black woman wow! Sad asf I hope he gets a reality check and when u do don’t spin the block on our comfort as a black woman!! This is horrible
People need to stop sayin, "We came into this world alone." No one came into this world alone except for Adam. We came in to this world through our mothers, with nurses and doctors to treat us as soon as we come out. You had help coming into this world, so help those that you can, but remember you cannot help everyone. Nuclear familes need to teach these single parents and help them to not raise masculine women.
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Jeuu the new CAPED CRUSADER out here DA DADA DAAAA
Somebody tell Eli If he wanna see some wild stuff being said by women of other races on the same topic discussed listen to the whatever podcast. I agree with bro but other women of other races say this same stuff too
@SijeySaidIt This is a black podcast and all of the hosts want to be with our marry a black woman so why would he talk about anything else
@@BESTEHSTUBA Sure, but they did talk about other races though. In fact the comparison to other women of other races is made a lot. Im just providin evidence for what Juee said and defending black women.
Watching you boys from South Africa 🇿🇦....gents I believe one of the best things black men can ever do for black women is get rid of hook up culture.
BINGO
This country don't drive backwards
Word. It's very toxic and is feeding into the flesh.
@@H1GHD3FF meaning what?
@Reincarnated31 we are not going back to a traditional set up.
THERE IS A HUGE PROBLEM WHEN YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE FINANCES OVER HAPPY FAMILY AND MARRIAGE. WE HAVE LOST OUR DAMN MINDS
lol how you gonna provide for your family with no finances?
@@naturallykiera5063that’s not the point hes making though. Don’t try to shift the goal post.
@@naturallykiera5063that's the problem everything always have to be about money when I understand money is supposed to be a tool but family supposed to be more important than money
In reality I think it was a bad question. Im trying to be fair but I think this question is fair at all to the women you're asking it to.
that's because people have different goals, doesn't take genius to figure that out.
They ask hypothetical questions and then get mad at the answer. Most men are saying they dont wanna be married but wanna knock women for making the SAME CHOICE MOST MEN WOULD SAY. Dudes would choose money over getting married. Lets be honest.
🧢🧢🧢
Yeah I don't get the framing of the questions either. And I'm also a guy
@@MrDrose444 So you will choose getting married over a million dollars? Lol. Ok brother. Salute. Most men would take the money and all the hoez that come with it. Isnt that what high value men do? The manosphere constantly says rich men gonna sleep around. It doesnt say they want to be in committed relationships.....
@@tpoppy9303 I'll take the million too😊
So men should be ok with women who put their focus into careers if marriage is out of the question. There’s consequences to everything. The more men whose mindset change for the masses there will be a rebuttal effect and vice versa with womens mindset changing in large.. such as refusing sex and or barring children.
Respect my guy Jeuu but he is bailing the women out right now.. he knows exactly what Eli said is true
I didn’t disagree with the fact that we hear it from our women more … but to even believe that other groups of women ain’t saying it (whites,Chinese, Hispanic ) they don’t need a man is crazy
@DailyRapUpCrew Ask ELI TO LOOK UP FRESH AND FIT THEY HAVE MORE NON BLACK GIRLS ON THEY SHOW BECAUSE THEY DONT LOKE BLACK WOMEN BUT I CAN BET YOULL HEAR AND SEE THE SAME RHETORIC. HE JUST GOT TONDOBTHE RESEARCH.
Jeuu did the right thing he was not bailing no one out
@bobbym1799 sir the women on fresh and fit don't say they don't need a man..they'll say they're equal to men.
@@DailyRapUpCrewbro they not going to the internet and bashing they men thi that's the point bro ain't saying it doesn't happen in other cultures but you bugging fam if you think black woman dont do it the most out of all groups and proudfully
A way to a mans heart is through communication and respect. Food is a bonus
Men are definitely foodies. Big fact.
Food is a key component for me tbh😂
Finally!! Thank you so much Jeuu for speaking out. Theres trifling women in every single nationality.
Agreed and they are heavy in every race and ethnicity that’s in the: US, UK, and Canada
this is a cultural issue in the western world. not just black women.
Black women are a special breed of trifling. Everyone knows that.
STOP THE CAP @EZPEEZY9686...You know as well as the rest of the country in which we live. Our black women in this country are the worst...however, with frank and honest conversations, it can get better.
Use data next time and try to be forthright accordingly.
@mountaintop0925 use data but the data that you use to come to your assumptions are skewed..do you analyze the variables of the statistics you gather or you just read something and run with it? As an analyst of 10+ years I know that you can manipulate numbers and data to get whatever output you want. And from my experience as a black woman with a majority of black women all around me I know for a fact that the stereotypes among black woman only pertain to the most ratchet of them. Also, you can also find the same attitudes placed on black women within other ethnicities it is just more acceptable because they are more sought after.
I think checking out the whatever podcast may show you that it is more of a generational thing than a black thing. Also fresh and fit usually have more non black girls on there and they spew the same rhetoric. The reason why you don’t see other women is because you don’t go looking for it. Everybody is dealing with just as many problems as we are. The divorce rates is more prominent among white people too so just because they get marry does not mean they retain the relationship. If you are not going to actually do the research on other races, I don’t think it really helps in bringing them up to try and debate a topic. America is having a hard time relationally regardless of color and if you only want to be with black women then stop bringing up everyone else.
Fair enough
Preach! Marriage doesn't always mean retention.
@@yaffehbendaudBig facts we make this thing spin right or wrong. So, what happens when the salt of the earth loses its flavor?;....
I totally agree. They mouth say they want black women but their actions is to tear down the black women so they already have their excuse on why they date outside of their race.
@@yaffehbendaud I think them publicizing it may be because of us but they have always had their own problems. Asian women date outside their races higher than anyone. White women is the reason why we have feminism now and I am sure there are many other problems everyone else has. My only problem with anyone bringing up other races is that they only spew narratives to back up their POV. Everyone is falling apart when its comes to relationships and to just say it is a black people thing to me is ignorant/disingenuous.
I like the fact that these guys as friends can have differed opinions an still be strong enough to leave their emotions out. Argue to the facts, nice.
Yea, this is a problematic statement. What if their facts and feelings align? Feelings aren't always indicative of non-logic.
Eli is incomplete with his statement, BW may be the most vocal but they didn't kick off this we're better than men mentality it kicked off with WW and Feminism, who are the main demographics involved when u see these feminist protests, parades, and demonstrations, it ain't BW its mainly White, Asian, and Hispanic...I understand your point Eli but it ain't just BW.....Truth in the Details
Exactly…BW might say it but they are not the ones actually making the moves to change laws
BW are saying it based off bad experiences/actions/ disappointments of their father/uncles/peers/neighbors/classmates/partners..
Esp when you are from the hood..bad examples all around u
Most BW never seen a decent Well mannered guy
Another good show, big ups to DRC for keeping the conversations respectful ✊🏾
One of my favorites so far. Great show guys. Tell ‘‘em like it is lol
"If you treat something like it's the beginning, there will never be an end". My man got bars!
These conversations are becoming way too emotionally charged. Everyone giving their subjective opinions is kinda cringe tbh. We don’t need to know your weird relationship goals and disgusting deep thoughts
See that what conversation is for cant just bail out when you get uncomfortable
Modern Jezebels : "Men don't communicate"
Also Modern Jezebels : "Men that speak their mind are sassy and in their feminine"
"Speak their mind" to a Jezebel means "arguing with a woman"
Me : 🤔🙄😒🤦🏾♂️🙏🏽
Eli is so feminine , he literally has a issue when it come to black women for every single thing . Ace to me is almost useless because he’s always asking idiotic questions with a smirk as if he’s there just to play devils advocate. Jeuu is ok . But these women really touched on topics I hear a lot of my friends discussing and everything was a pushback as to say it’s not true . How can you sit there and tell me something isn’t true when it’s a constant topic for debate, or something so many women discuss ? Like we’re not a docile group of women . It’s like none of them really wanna be held accountable which was the topic Dr Umar touched on
Which one is Jeuu?
This!!!
Whqt arguments were they talking about
I am bored with this childish deflection. Of course all nationalities do this dance but that is NOT my concern because I am a black Man and My concern are our Black women and OUR community. Other races are free to conduct their business anyway they wish but Our women NEED to stand accountable for their behavior and conduct within the black family dynamic not point fingers at other cultures in an attempt to duck their responsibility. Jeuu is correct it's not only Black women, but as Black Men our focus should always be on our own. We have a big mess to clean up and no other culture cares what we do so stop deflecting and get to it.
I wish y'all pushed harder on making them clarify themselves. What does "make me feel safe" mean exactly? We need specifics and examples.
It means run the fade to a guy who catcalls them while they’re out in their skimpy dress that her man asked her not to wear but she wore anyway because he can’t tell her what to do.
@@sethbrolsma516 makes complete sense! thanks lol
Im a woman, it means dont dismiss me when i say how i feel unless im doing it in the wrong way. Make sure i dont walk on the outside of the sidewalk. Prove that youre faithful and other women cannot tempt you to ruin what we are trying to build. Check on me sometimes when im out asking "you okay?". Try to be as less judgemental as possible and as patient as possible when it comes to pregancy and the ups and downs we have during it. If you notice a creepy guy before i do, create a little distance by standing next to me according to what side they on and tell me to be alert. Dont approach them. Dont bring me to a place or situation where i will be physically harmed. U dont always have to throw hands, tbh me personally i prefer my partner to not bcuz that might end his life. I'll tell him straight up i felt uncomfortable with a situation but all i need is conformt not him potentially getting hurt. Lead in initiating safe sex, that lets me know you arent trying to make me a baby mother fist, or at all, but a wife if you see fit. Things like this makes women feel safe, we feel secure with u.
@@khaotic8 Thank you for clarifying.
@@khaotic8 Only wife material deserves this treatment. Not women (Jezebels) like these two.
There are a lot of conversations where the word "broke" gets thrown around. I think its time to equate what broke is.
These hypotheticals are getting out of hand... Eli and Ace too focus on the talking points that they believe they have, to one up on their guest instead of engaging in the conversation. UNDERSTANDING NUANCE INSTEAD OF HAVING AN ARGUMENT BASED ON STATISTICS OR PROJECTING PERSONAL EXPERIENCE , WHILE ASKING RHETORICAL OR ANECDOTAL QUESTIONS WILL NEVER LEAD TO THE ANSWER YOU NEED BUT MORE SO THE ANSWERS THEY WANNA HEAR
Women will call you what you let them. Set boundaries early and it won’t be a problem. my ex wife would say shorty ( she’s from Chicago). About 3 weeks of being called that I was no ma’am I’m nobody’s shorty. Deaded it and it’s never uttered to me subsequent to that moment.
They started that giggling and got silent when called them on the double standard on "I'm not your mama" smh 🤦🏾
Yep gottem
Good show fellas
Bring other women of other races on this show and see how they respond. The podcast length would be 15 min tops. If that.
If you brought the problematic women of other groups like you bring the problematic women in the black population, you would get the same thing.
I su3d to believe that until I I to college. Then I saw the messy women of other groups. They were just as bad and at times, worse.
They need to bring other races of men and women on the show.
Black men want change be the CHANGE.
For yourselves
@@christopherlewis2194WHY COMPLAIN ABOUT BLACK WOMEN EVERYDAY UNLESS YOU ARE A FEMININE MALE? Why care about what they do.
@@christopherlewis2194STOP BEING A CLOWN. STOP COMPLAIN ABOUT WOMEN. BE THE CHANGE.
ALL THIS GUY DOES IS TALK IN ALL CAPS
Ive learned that women will never get the simple obvious truths us men will get.
Stop debating with them.
Show case the truth they should follow & i guarantee they’ll all get the truth by then :) podcasts goin in circles for profit . It’s dope, but yea, fellas gotta do the next best thing
I like this episode. I would have to add that if women had that father figure, they key part of that interaction to me is that the child will be able to internalize what it sounds like to be criticized by someone who loves you. Which will help in fostering relationships with those who criticizes who they love.
I think women need more practice in relationships with me and how to deal with them period. but the idea that fatherless women never receive criticism is absurd. Our mother's discipline us. The issue is some women don't know how to receive criticism from a MALE, not that they don't know how to receive it at all. Most women can easily accept constructive criticism from other women.
They so lost i dont even know if i want to finish this one. Smh
"I know right from wrong, but i dont want you to tell me"
1:09:11 No matter how rich you are, you will never want to be alone. You may not get married but your always going to want some type of companionship. THERE IS NO POINT IN HAVING EVERYTHING AND NO ONE TO SHARE IT WITH. I DONT KNOW VERY MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE HAPPY ALONE.
I really wish you all would stop projecting! If you desire companionship/ marriage that’s fine! But everyone doesnt desire that, and that is okay too. Some ppl have done the marriage, some have done the relationship, and it didn’t workout for whatever reason, so now they are at a point in life where they are perfectly happy being single. Some singles live a life that you couldn’t fathom,.. some have family & friends they rely on who love them. Everybody isn’t single at home crying lmaooo!
@goodvibezz9216 you clearly didn't read my whole comment.. because I said companionship and no one's projecting. You don't have to be in relationship at all... however nobody in this life wants to be alone trully. All that big talk with about independence and rather be alone is all lies. Its just talk. It's sounds good but in reality no trully wants to be alone. Studies and people smarter then myself have proven people need interactions with others to survive and live a healthy life. REALITY THOSE SAME PEOPLE WHO CLAIM WOULD LOVE TO BE BY THEMSELVES WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMEONE TO SHARE IT WITH
@@antoniohooks8866 YOU desire a companion, and that's great for YOU! Yes we all need human interaction and you can have plenty of that without being in a relationship! Marriage/ relationships isn't for everybody otherwise we would be born with the promise of a partner!
Relationships/marriages are not promised nor are they guaranteed to last! Singleness is certainly a state where individuals can definitely be happy and have a wonderful life. Society wants us to believe you can't and has always pushed marriage for the benefit of society, just like its being pushed now for the benefit of bm & the sake of the "black community." SMH
Independence is just being an adult! Being able to be self sufficient financially, because most women in times past relied on men for survival. Many having to endure the hardships (whatever that looks like) of that dependence. So now yes, some women are choosing singleness & avoiding being tied down to bogus marriages just for the sake of appeasing society, BM, or the community!
And how about sharing the link of the "study" that proves otherwise.
@@antoniohooks8866 Companionship is 100% PLATONIC so you can have that with a variety of people that you're related or not related to of either sex/gender.
@goodvibezz9216 you again or going back to a relationship and projecting bitter and hurt people ideology. You're not being realistic. But rightfully so you're entitled to your opinion
Y’all should get West coast women on the show
Southern, mid western women too
Right ! Cause these NY women have lost their mind ! and really take it to the next level and get some moms on the show that are WITH the baby daddy stay at home moms we need to mix it up 🤷🏾♀️
@@gsheverything_2716theres no difference
Seeeee bros 🙄 💕 lol
@@queenp3087 absolutely 💯, I'm with that idea, but this is NOT for good business, that's VERY unfortunately...
45:10 It's not that single mother households don't have a male role model. It's that single PARENT households have no to little role models due to work schedules required to raise a family on one person's income.
This generation is different, I don't ever remember looking at a celebrity as a role model.
This is exactly what I’ve been looking for
Modern Jezebels : "Men shouldn't worry about a woman's body count"
Also Modern Jezebels : "Why can't he blow my back out like the last man (Tyrone) I fornicated with?"
Me : 🤔🙄😒🤦🏾♂️🙏🏽
This is why I like this podcast any other podcast someone would have been kicked out or would have turned toxic
Eli I gotta say something thats been bothering me. I think you accuse your guests way too often of being toxic or having negative traits you see in other toxic women they you might have heard on your show or somewhere else online.
I think at that point you're looking for something to disagree with because although there are alot of women online who push false narratives.... I understand that alot of women who join your panel don't even have those same held beliefs.
Like if we are promoting balance between the sexes i don't think its fair to accuse those black women of having toxic values before they even gave their opinion fully. It would kinda be the same thing as a women accusing you of being sassy or dusty.
Also... What was your reasoning for saying this at 1:02:15. First off. The idea that just because the first women chose money over marriage does not imply that her morals and values are somehow less than yours because she literally stated out her own mouth that she would still want marriage but she would still be richer in the process. Thats not toxic how you are promoting it. And then when she tried to clarify you told her that you dont care.
I think at that point how are we supposed to hold ourselves accountable if we are accuse women of being toxic when they aren't even showing toxic traits.
Eli bout to make Birdman come to the show just to threaten all tree of yall
Sassy time with Ace had me dead aF 😂😂😂😂😂
I agree with Eli over Jeuu . Our women are the most out of pocket . The most unmarried group of women but complain about the top 5% of men marrying outside their race and ignore the other 95% that would love to marry them.
Tbh love seeing brothers do good yall keep striving family
A few seconds in and their heated exchange showcases why it is very difficult as a man or woman to go against the grain, and hold people accountable.
Oh please
What a well thought out comment. Go be negative on someone else’s comment or say something of value
1:10:24 yeah def not just black women but it seems to be more extreme with a certified group
Nah. It’s everybody. women and amen in all races. We are all messed up in some way especially in the realm of relationships 🤷🏽♂️
I hate listening to hypothetical conversations. These guys are speaking from experience clearly and projecting it onto these women and want answers for their experience. Everyone is different, if we're bumping into men and women with similar toxic traits from the past, we cannot blame them, we have to change ourselves and figure out what we're putting out there to attraction these people and situations.
I noticed that
Ppl have to stop with this rhetoric. You can observe what’s happening from the outside to be able to speak on the dynamics between man n woman. Also it isn’t always yourself thats the problem. Thats like saying you walk into a place and 80/100 of the ppl in there are bad but you’re the bad one because you bumped into 5 bad ones straight. No just a majority of them are bad n its more probable for you to run into them. Needle in a haystack.
That’s was extremely disrespectful to the lady who talked about her businesses .. says she’s a barber then you ask her a question like that.
Saying that a singe mother can't be feminine is crazy. My mother was very feminine and didn't choose to be a single mother. My father choice that for her. He actually decided to end a 3 year engagement. He liked hyper independent women and my mom was too feminine for him. HE even tried to break my feminine ways my mother instill in me to be hyper independent. So stop blaming women for everything.
18:50 I'm going to repeat what I heard on another video today. As a woman, "I don't work to put food on the table, I work to put Whole Foods on the table". I work to add money to our lifestyle so WE can live better. And afford some kids. 2 incomes are better than one.
Can we have one of the shows with women not from NY. These NY women all think and sound alike.
The talking over eachother is killin me !! We cant hear what anybody is saying at that point
alot of women be wanting a low key therapist as a prerequisite of a man they want!
It’s the same of men wanting low key wanting their woman to be their mother.
56:31 The realest statement during the podcast.
Y’all Have To Realize That Everyone Doesn’t Believe In Gender Roles, Everyone Isn’t Traditional ! So If Both People Work Both Can Do Things In The House & Both Can Pay Bills, If That Works For Them .. The Conversation Needs To Be Had Before Both People Choose To Be In A Relationship, That Would Remove Any Expectations :)
The problem isn’t if both work, the issue lies on the fact that even modern women want traditional man or men who uphold those values, they want their cake & eat it too. No matter the tax bracket,ideology they’re following(feminism/liberalism) women still want a masculine traditional man, but don’t care what that men want.
“IF WE BOTH WORKING,HELP AROUND THE HOUSE”
Women like to throw this complaint in these debates, as if men want them to be working😅 men want traditional women, that stay at home, but women’s ego today is so high, that they can’t let a man lead and be the sole provider cus they fear the man will leave them, even tho it’s statistically unrealistic😂
@@unpopular2 why focus on the exceptions and not the rule? I’m talking I’m general, most men in America and the world, still want a traditional relationship, most still uphold a traditional views,but most women aren’t traditional or hold traditionalism, cus its agaisnt feminism and all the freedoms,advantages and oportunities women gained by following it, that’s why most men don’t even show it and adapt to women today, since women are working, they ask 50/50, cus they don’t get reciprocated anymore,but the ideal of what men want is still traditional, today women want the man to show her he’s capable before she gives him something in return😑, like; “I’m gonna be masculine until I meet the right man”🤡
I think the main problem is women do want men to be traditional at times then to break that tradition at other times. Meanwhile they(women don’t want to be traditional. This simply does not work - maybe we can adapt to it but women seem to want it both ways so it’s up to them to choose and stick with one
@@williamthell5930 There are lots of women who want to stay at home. When Steve Harvey suggested a woman not providing and a man taking care of her, most men (BM in particular) dragged him across the internet. Y'all don't want traditional housewives. Y'all want them traditional as far as submission but y'all want them modern as far as being willing to go half on the bills and/or being able to move into HER house instead of building or buying your own. Many of y'all can't fix anything or build anything yourselves so she still has to call someone and pay them to fix stuff in the house.
@@Ayommari NO, again, those are the exceptions not the rule,most men want traditional and are traditional, the internet doesn’t represent to whole population of men, plus your talking about men who watch Steve Harvey, that man has been giving women bad terrible advice for decades and bad for men too, those men are simply being realistic, that having one single breadwinner, a man has to make a lot, and the average income is 50k, either they choose to live an average life, or have two incomes for a better life in this economy, but it doesn’t mean men don’t want it. But its definitely on the women to decide if she wants 50k or not. Cus men will live on 50k or even 30k, being simple
So happily married means Broke now
Crazy
They don't know what they're talking about.
The problem with having 304’s at the forefront of the culture.
@@blacketernal7139 Exactly
They're all for sale. They're trying to hide the fact they're just prostitutes.
Accountability is the biggest kryptonite for women.. 😂😂😂😂😂
It’s actually kryptonite to men but go off
It's sad how the girl started speaking on body count and had no proper background or understanding.... lol insane!
Eli said “ALL”… on reels “ig,fb , RUclips” that I hear all the time about single women saying I don’t need a man from all race/culture etc.
Sometimes, having these conversations with younger women without experience in life makes no sense. The young ladies truly have lots to learn about life. So, asking them certain questions makes them appear to be stupid because their not qualified to really give a good answer or proper advice about relationships. Not speaking bad about these young ladies.
percentages are based off of a small group of people. There is no way that the percentages are based off of everyone. I aint never taken a survey. They never got my stats.
Eli just don't like black women.
No I just think he has been hurt by a few
Man I definitely rock with y'all show I really like the guess y'all have and the topics y'all discuss I really have a lot of input on a lot of the topics that you guys talked about and it's just so interesting how different a lot of us think about a lot of the topics that y'all have keep doing what y'all doing and I do hope to put my two cents in very soon
Eli made a great point, women of other races have higher marriage rates. You barely see other races of women speak the way black women speak. I don't see an Asian shade room or a white or even Spanish shade room.
You know why that is ? Those men have no issue with stepping up , black men have BIG ISSUES with stepping up . That’s why
Other communities have an intact community that regulates behavior through collective shame. That’s why marriage rates are higher. We know this 🤷🏽♂️
@@Theworldismine5stepping up to what? trash women
@@Theworldismine5 stop capping cuz bout black men all nation wanted by others nation of women So-called black are not so keep that moving. Stop with nonsense
@@michaelallen8112 You are full of shit
This man out here doing haikus😂😂😂😂
It’s the same talking points every episode! For every stat quoted please include the links of where this info is retrieved cuz I swear these stats lmaoooo! Please have a different panel of men, men who are successful & also successful women! And let them tell us about the dating market.
If you ask the guest for THEIR opinion let them give it rather you agree or not. If not why ask? That’s my only concern here
Why don’t all do a poll about your topics and then have a discussion. Otherwise it’s speculation.
Because that's way too much work. They don't do polls or even research actual polls. It takes a college education to be able to know how to properly execute and break down a poll. I am curious as to what these men's jobs/career path were prior to becoming podcast kings.
I do wnna say I do think Ths is a good podcast I like the conversations.. I be wanting to be apart of the conversation it’s good topics n I like to debate n watch it happen as well .. Once u have us viewers debating u got a good thing lol So Salute to these Guys n if they Frm NYC even bigger Applause lol Cus I Love My City n my Ppl 🗽💯💪🏾🩵✨
Everybody and they MOMMA “does real estate” 👌🏾🙄
There's always a weak Link in the crew
Eli asked what are some unrealistic dating expectations men have and shorty went to talking bout some other shit
Jeuu is right it's all over the internet with different races of woman saying they don't need a man.
Ya steady tryna fix these girls and they tell ya every episode THEY DONT GAF
I don’t think the “women have no role models” holds up. There’s Michelle Obama, there’s Jemele Hill, there’s Beyoncé, there’s Megan thee Stallion w/ her philanthropic work, there’s Issa Rae, there’s Yvonne Orji, there’s Shonda Rhimes, there’s Rhianna, there’s Marsai Martin, there’s Trace Ellis Ross, there’s Taylor Rooks for sports journalism…there’s dozens of good female role models across all different types of industries.
You’re just not content with what he has they can be happy if you would just be content, but we can’t control your content and what you value so we’ll never be happy but go off queen 🤜🏿🤛🏾 58:27
This was a good one boyz
The question should be would you rather be “rich and single” OR “middle class and happily married”? (And the husband will always be middle class, they always say they will try and build him up).
I can't lie. Dr Umar kinda ruined this channel for me.
Y'all talking about the same shit over and over. We have to progress to the bigger conversations
Top tier episode
Eli right, those other women just talk because it's trending, black women actually practice....... Eli said Jeuu that he only hear that from black women, never said Most bro
I’ve watched several of these shows and I find these men to be extremely biased, rude, condescending and factually incorrect. Fact, the majority of black women want to date and marry black men. While the majority of black
men do not want to marry black women…date or impregnate is different. These men act they speak for all black men and they, they also use very skewed so called “studies” when they refer to certain issues. The CDC is not all in composing. You do not see any other race of men, like black
men, who speak about their women in such a negative light like they do. White women do not have to consider money when marrying, because their men (white) that are the highest earner or who have the potential to out earn any other race. Being single does not equate to unhappiness. These men act like they are a prize and they are not. You say black
women act “ masculine” but when questioned you cannot clearly define what that means. You take certain characteristics or adjectives and call it masculine.
I respect jeuu for his position, but the stereotypes surrounding black women didnt come out of nowhere. We see the unruly, combative behavior from them every day. We grew up seeing it, hearing it, and experiencing it. It’s not to say it doesn’t happen in other communities because westernized women are generally a handful, but it’s definitely more pronounced with black women. That’s a real problem.
We need new conversations in the black community right now. How many podcasts are going to keep talking about the same topics over and over again and neither side is willing to change or improve nor take accountability. Until we’re ready to move forward, this conversation will go nowhere
You just don’t like black women being “exposed” and confronted for their beliefs
Found the Bitter Black Woman
@@sethbrolsma516 that has absolutely nothing to do with it. It just doesn’t need to be on a public platform all the time. And what are you really exposing?” But I digress, there are some not intelligent enough to have conversations for the betterment of both parties. These are round about conversations going nowhere.
@@nikkij3631Ok then. Give us some examples of the type of conversations you think that the black community should be having at this point and time?
@@flawed2001 with therapy, GOD, healing the past/traumas, that’s first. Too many black folks walking around with all this trauma and bitterness. How do we become better women and men for society in general. Building wealth. Creating legacy, so we can compete and not be left behind. Showing our kids a different, better way. I can go on and on but until we’re ready to heal, These conversations will go nowhere. We are the only people that will not unify. Let’s stop dividing. I know that may not be the popular conversation to have with algorithms and all, but it’s really about healing the community because if not, we will become more divided and fail. Just my opinion. I’m not on RUclips a lot, I’m in these spaces though talking to different people and no one else is having these type of conversations on public platforms except for us. We have got to do better.
50/50 relationship is not really a possibility because the higher cost of maintenance for the basic body hygiene of a woman, even the adoptability of a girl child is more demanding for a single male person or a couple.
U won’t get no where off of hopes n prayers my ancestors were begging n praying to this unknown entity that never been here n look wat happened to them so innerstand wat u do today determines your future u your own god y’all better start comprehending that 💯
OMG, these girls are the best. They are great representatives for us women.
I agree, definitely a breath of fresh air from the type of girls they usually bring on!
I feel the guys where listening to what they where saying either. They think all women think the same, lol
How are they the best? This must be a female account. The girl in the hat is way too masculine.
One of them sounds like a whole DUDE. She is not a representative for me.
@@GoddessBlueYozakura7 LOL, it dont matter what her voice sounds like wtf
Another good show.
S/o to Jeuu 💯
A woman that’s not wife material opinion is irrelevant.
Wife material is subjective. One person trash is another person treasure. 🤷🏽♂️
@radiantgoldensun6438 "wife material" from a biblical standard. Biblically speaking, there is no subjective comprehension.
@@taqeemhilton well then who in the community is husband material biblically? Lol not many. If that’s the case biblical soon to be husbands would’ve already found their biblical wives and this debate wouldn’t even be relevant.
@radiantgoldensun6438 smh, you just contradicted yourself. The majority of modern women are worshipping the Jezebel Spirit & women out number men. By that common knowledge, this means that the godly Bible following men doesn't have much to choose from. Why would a godly man who's trying to obey & follow the standards & laws of the Bible waste his time on the majority of today's modern women?
@@radiantgoldensun6438 it’s not a man’s job to “make” a woman a wife. She should already know how to be a man’s wife by simply following the biblical standards set in place in the Bible.
Jeuu is becoming a panderer. It's obvious not ALL black women! But we can only talk about the women in OUR community because that's who deal with closely. Neither of you have any idea what the other communities are struggling with and doing!! So Eli is correct in his assessment as He has well versed in dealing with OUR women just like YOU Jeuu smfh
Lol everyone entitled to they own opinion but he said that only black women are saying they don’t need a man and I replied all women are saying the stupid shit lol if me takin it off of just black women rather than holding all accountable than I guess imma panda bear lol you sound ridiculous if u ask me
@@DailyRapUpCrew If I sound ridiculous then you're obviously not as smart as I thought you was brother! Point out any ridiculous statement I made when it comes to recognizing the issues with OUR women in OUR community! And why we always have to throw in other groups when we talking about correcting our own. 90% if only date OUR women smfh
@@sds4810the women saying they don't need a man is in response to how black men have shown up generation after generation
@stacih1025 before or after y'all started getting the cops on speed dial.
Lol snakes and snitches. You should be ashamed for your female ancestry😂
He's becoming a panderer because he pushed back against an ignorant statement.
Fam. It’s over!!!!!
Good content from NJ
She said "you spending your money and im saving my money " at no time did she say "you spending our money and im saving our money" pay attention.
Ju talking bout he don't know about asian women but then turn around and say that all women saying this “ TALK TO EM ELI”
They say money can't buy happiness but all these single women saying they happy because they got some money 😂 stop the cap😂😂😂
Yea I’m happy ! I can pay my bills and not have to depend on you or put up with bullshit from you just because you pay bills
@@Theworldismine5 im already married 😂 I'm sure your white boss is happier that you're making them richer
If a guy isn't holding up his part, why are you with them? You choose to be aggressive versus just leaving to find someone who can live up to what you feel he needs to once that guy has proven he can't. You choose to be resentful and choose to behave more masculine and choose to stay with him. Those are all choices you don't have to choose.
Men need to take that same advice and date women who are what you're looking for and want the lifestyle you want. It's wayyyyyy too many men out here making shit hard for everyone else by constantly harassing women who don't want them and don't care to live the lifestyle they're looking for. But men think they have a right to try to mold women into something they're not for their own personal pleasure and that attitude is why a lot of women are just annoyed with men altogether. Dudes claim they want traditional women but refuse to get with traditional women and harass and demonize "modern" women instead as if that's gonna do anything but make women dislike men even more than we already do.
@@joannamonique707 Most guys aren't dating. They are either married or not getting any action. The ones who are getting play from chicks aren't usually the ones complaining. Of the ones who are getting chicks but are still complaining, yeah you're right, they do need to pursue the women they claim to want instead of trying to change the chicks they are wanting to fuck. There's a difference between trying to change someone and trying to mold them. We all mold and manipulate the people around us. It's not a bad thing. We are all different, so we have to be dealt with differently. Maybe 80% of how we treat people is based on generalizations, but the other 20% is based on that individual person. So you will have to mold the person to be the 20% that is unique to you. It's not a bad thing. We all want to be treated special by those in our lives, especially those we are in a relationship with. Toxic people can misuse it, for sure, but most people don't.
@@joannamonique707 I don't believe most guys are demonizing chicks, modern or otherwise. Most are simply state their gripes. There will always be some hurt guys that do actually attack chicks, but they are just a loud minority. But there's a loud minority on both sides. The majority on both sides need to come together and discuss and listen and figure out middle ground and concessions. The extremists on either side never will, so let them be lonely and angry by themselves. The rest of us don't have to be. We don't have to choose sides. We can actually live and love in reality.
Alrighttt ima just say it ! I like Jeuu the best 😂
I gotta agree with Jeuu on this one it ain't just black women saying that shit even doe I hear Ace when he talking about the majority even doe I do think it is but Eli can't say " he doesn't hear other groups saying it"
Expecting me to be me for him and not me to be me for me .
I haven’t watched a single second of this video, but I will say this-
The Nuclear Family, at least in the American sense, is an ANOMALY. Have you heard the phrase “It takes a village to raise a child”? In ancient civilizations, or even just going back to the 1800s, most societies had towns/cities/villages where children could could be in a place other than their parents’ home, or school, unsupervised- or at least not have their every action monitored.
Children can no longer walk around in packs of their peers. In America, cities are barely walkable. A car is almost always a necessity to get to anywhere fast without being exhausted. Aunts, uncles, and close friends can’t really supervise a person’s child because almost everyone has to work.
Expanding upon that last point, at least up until the 1980s there could reliably be one parent in the home of a nuclear family to raise a child who wasn’t exhausted- because dual income households weren’t a necessity. Think about how often it is the case where both parents work and the kids are at daycare being raised by someone else, or the school system via extracurriculars.
The concept of the Nuclear Family requires each new group of parents to leave *their* parents’ house to get their own. From the 1940s post WWII Baby Boom there have been at least three blocs of generations who’ve “left the nest” and gotten their own homes. The Baby Boomers are only JUST now passing away and leaving houses behind, while three, almost 4 generations have been expected to pair up and get houses… is this sustainable? There’s only so much land and private property that exists, and these homes are either usually large and expensive or overpriced places that can only be rented. There’s hardly any sensible, affordable “starter homes”.
I haven’t talked about the costs of the child, itself and sacrifices that must be made. Throughout history almost every successful civilization has been agrarian. Having a child, especially a male, meant an extra hand on the farm, fields or hunting game. This is no longer the case. Having a child in the modern world is a financial LIABILITY for 18 years at the very least, and as I stated before, with almost everyone having to work to live even into their 50s and 60s, you can’t always lend them over to someone else when you feel you need free time. Modern cities are not in any way child-friendly as towns and villages were. Our government has shown that they do not GAF about children in many ways. We have a super bloated military budget but children with cancer are relying on fundraising via WalMart for treatment. There’s no free school lunch for them… it’s just ridiculous.
The Nuclear Family arose from the same place as unfettered capitalism. Free-reign capitalism is not conducive to family formation.
🙄Women never want to Land the damn plane 🤦🏽♂️
This is why I appreciate other cultures and ethnicities that cherish us Black Queens because to our so called black man we are angry black trifling woman and it’s fucking sad. That man did only black woman wow! Sad asf I hope he gets a reality check and when u do don’t spin the block on our comfort as a black woman!! This is horrible
People need to stop sayin, "We came into this world alone." No one came into this world alone except for Adam. We came in to this world through our mothers, with nurses and doctors to treat us as soon as we come out. You had help coming into this world, so help those that you can, but remember you cannot help everyone. Nuclear familes need to teach these single parents and help them to not raise masculine women.