No, he's always acted like a sore loser we just didn't see it as much when Brady was there. We've seen him yelling at officials and acting childish and even more rudely to the media the past few years. When he won in week 3 vs the jets he was almost giddy.
As a patriots fan, I was holding onto hope because of our defense. Now that Judon is down, and Gonzalez is out for the season, it's safe to say this season is over.
I kinda feel bad for Bill, not even a Pats fan. Just hate hearing all the people saying he was over rated or a hack. What do you want him to do, he's a defensive guy and his QB is fucking horrendous. NE's D is still really good as always
In the Brady vs Belichick debate I was always of the opinion that they both needed each other (which is probably true). When the Patriots, specifically Belichick, mistreated the GOAT, I sided with Brady. Brady left and won a Superbowl. Belichick was a sub 500 coach before Brady showed up and he's a sub 500 coach since Brady left.
You can't have that level of success without giving everyone their flowers. It's also not a huge surprise that after losing someone as irreplaceable as the greatest quaterback(arguably football player) hasn't significantly regressed them. That's something that would cause any franchise to need some time to recover. The question is as great as bellicheck is, can he rebuild a franchise. It seems so far that answer is no. He might need to go before they get successful again.
@@alexdenty7041 for the super bowl specifically, it's true. But overall, Brady wasn't the dawg he was yet, either regarding skills or leadership. His best came later. Bellichick's defense had a far bigger role on the overall those years
@@otaviofrnazario Your comment shows exact how clueless Pats fans are. in 2001, Belichick's defense was supposed to carry 80-90% of the load, but Pats needed Brady's offense to get first round bye (3 comeback wins), needed Brady to save the team from own 3 yard line in SB, to deliver winning drive in SB. *Brady had to carry far far far more of the loads for Pats than he was supposed to* with the squad given by BeliCHEAP. In 2003 (5 comeback wins), Belichick's defense didn't even carry 50% of the load. His good stats came from games against lousy offenses, like last 3 seasons.
Bill Belicheck's two decade long dynasty was a nice dream but now the pats fans wake up to the reality of their team looking like Belicheck's son's haircut :/
@@springheeledjack165bills, cowboys, steelers, and eagles are all far worse. pats fans literally just mind our business, you people always want to bring up deflategate or spygate, which both had zero outcome of the game.
As a patriots fan, I’d like to say hey Brandon. Feels like yesterday our teams were facing off to go to Super Bowl 50. The last ever Brady vs Manning. Now look at us pal!! We’re competing for who can lose in more spectacular fashion LOL
As a Bills fan, its in my best interest for the pats to be bad forever. That being said, I have a hard time saying that BB's coaching is the problem. I know too many years of him kicking us into the dirt. Though, he has been a pretty mediocre GM. I think if the team brought in an actual GM they would have been much stronger by now. BB really just needs to focus on coaching.
The problem with the patriot is their Oline. Mac jones played all fine and well his first year. His second year they gave him a DC has an OC, then this year their OL goated coach retired. That carousel of O-line protection is abysmal. For some reason they are willingly paying trent brown good money when he has been their biggest crutch since his signing. Is Mac good this year? No. He's flustered and trying to play hero ball for 60 mins. Their running game is also non-existent bcuz of no concrete O-line. Andrews is the only bright spot they have right now
Its a strange feeling. The Pats got their 1st super bowl when I was in the first grade. I lived a half hour south of Gillette stadium so it was very much a local pride thing. The next 20 years of success really shaped my perspective. My dad dealt with a bad team, a bad stadium and some of the most violent crowds. Now I'm watching a Pats team a lot like the ones he did. I've got to think about the silver linings. Tickets will be cheaper now that they aren't a wagon and I get to be their to cheer on their comeback... however long that takes.
Belichick needs *high QUALITY plays from his QB with a CHEAP squad.* When he had it (like in 2001), he looked like a genius. When he didn't have it, like now, he looked like an id10t.
@@jacobkaufman5315 part of growing up in New England is watching every adult in your life feel the joy of that superbowl, then the Red Sox broke their losing streak too and won a World series. It really gave me the perspective that its about the love of the team and the game and that will be rewarded.
I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area. I was 10 in 1981. So i grew up in the same way with the Niners. As you know they were a Dynasty. A sure win for years. I can remember when they started to cool off. Started having losing seasons. I was in denial for a few years. Made excuse after excuse. Till finally one cold rainy day at Candlestick. It was the fourth quarter. I was soaking wet and freezing. The Steelers wear beating the brakes off us. I was almost the only Niner fan left in the Stadium. Steeler fan was EVERYWHERE! It was the at this point I knew it was over. No more excuses. We just sucked now. Broke my heart. 😢 BUT WE’RE BACK NOW BABY!!!! LETS GO NINERS!!!❤️💛❤️💛❤️
As I grew up my dad has repeatedly told me about the team’s woes during the 70s and 80s when he was young. So if this current era has given me anything it’s material to complain about as an old man.
My brother's wife is from Boston he lives there now (great city) and her daughter is a custom to the Patriots being winners as a kid she literally expected the Patriots in the superbowl every year and I told her "enjoy it now once Brady leaves it's all over!" And my brother and his wife couldn't agree more
I can relate being a Niner fan I was spoiled with Montana and Young as quarterback I remember my uncle saying appreciate it, the last 20 years have been humbling to say the least now the Patriots will go that same direction
@@AFBNoutside of a few blackhole of seasons for four years in the mid-2020’s, the 49ers have been good the last 12 years. They’ve just (in both Harbaugh’s or Shanahan’s 49er teams) unluckily ran into a buzzsaw of other hot or elite teams like the Giants, Ravens, Seahawks, Chiefs, Rams, or Eagles. All teams that were determined not to lose. They probably have the best ranked team in football right now, though maybe unlucky for them the division all around got stronger (even the tanking Cardinals are playing competent) and I really don’t trust Brock Purdy.
@@Gabriel2oh6 I wouldn't call that Giants team "elite", a pretty good team, but also a pretty beatable team, and Kyle Williams pretty much singlehandedly ruined the 49ers chances that year with his dumb play.
As a life long Pats fan (early 80's) I remember when the Pats were the worst team in the NFL but we fid get 6 titles and 19 yrs of memories to look back on.
As a niners fan who grew up in the 80s and 90s, it only took languishing in mediocrity for most of the 00's for that hate to fade. I have a feeling it might take a bit longer for you guys, Brady and Belichick are way less likeable than Walsh/Seifert and Montana/Young,
Back in 2017 when the conference championships were Jags/Pats and Eagles/Vikings, there was an article on the sadness on each fanbase. For the Pats it was "Maybe not now, but it will end and no one will feel sorry for them". Of course, we've also gone full "Meet the new boss" with the Chiefs now largely being the dominant team. AFC Championship is now pretty much the "Arrowhead Invitational" (at least the Pats didn't host it every year despite making it for nearly a decade straight).
As a pats fan, the most infuriating part is that a lot of the fanbase still refuses to see it. Its still mostly "in Bill we trust" and/or its all Mac Jones' fault and we just need a new QB and everything will be all right. But i dont see it being very quiet for much longer. Maybe we win this week and next because the saints and raiders also suck, but after that? We might not win another game all year
@@Rekcha I'm telling you, without Judon and Gonzo, those games are not that winnable. Hell, we'd have lost to the Jets the first time if Zach Wilson wasn't particularly terrible. If he was even his normal brand of bad we lose that game too
@@Rammstein0963.Bad quarterbacks exacerbate everything makes an average offensive line look bad and makes average wide receiver look bad. Good quarterbacks do the opposite they make average offensive lines look good and average wide receivers look good. Mac Jones has been horrible since the second half of his rookie season that spans three different offensive coordinators it is clearly Mac Jones.
@Rammstein0963. I agree for the most part. A decent o-line would mean Mac would be fine. Nothing more, just fine. He'd still be throwing to receivers that literally can't get open but at least he'd have more than 2 seconds to do it
@brios327 Hold on to that sentiment, for it will be returned should your team ever fall from the heights of success. And you'll be just as bitter as the NE fanbase.
@@Rammstein0963. Not all of us are all that bitter haha. Losing seasons had to come at some point in my life. Most Patriots fans under 35 don't even remember a losing season, including myself. Even the season with Cam was pretty fun imo. He was what we needed to hold the locker room together and be a leader the following year with a huge void of that.
I was watching it to my left whilst watching muh Texans lose to the Falcons. But *narrowly*. I didn't feel like the Texans disgraced Houston. Nobody's joking about us (this year). The Saints game... yeah that wasn't good
as a Bills fan, I smile on the dawn of better days. after 18 full years of no playoffs and losing to them. I look upon a grateful universe. Feels great. Go Bills
@@stimihendrix3404the pats are garbage dude it is better days for the bills since they have dominated the division for past three years you had 20 years of great teams not anymore
@@rawleigh729 At least they are 3rd in cap space( under 1mil behind 2nd) for 2024 so Bill can go sign DJ Chark and Josh Reynolds at WR 😤😤. Really though, they could make some moves next year, especially if they end up sucking this year and draft top 8. Their D is already beaten to shit and the offense is obviously awful. Mac may not end up being the guy but he has been done zero favors the last year+. His rookie year with McDaniels they were actually 6th in points scored and put up 45 points twice. He's had 3 OCs and they haven't had a good WR or pass catching RB since Edelman/White retired right before Mac came up.
Pats fan here after getting destroyed by the Saints. This season is done. I was hopeful with the good defensive play early, but Judon and Gonzo both out for the year is a significant blow. The single biggest problem with this team right now is the offensive line. We can't run the ball because the OLine can't block, and we're constantly getting in 3rd and 6 - 8. They know we're gonna pass on those downs, and the OLine can't buy Mac enough time to throw. We haven't had the same starting OLine take the field at all this season. Lastly, the receivers can't get seperation. We look like a dumpster fire.
@@warlordofbritannia I think we should trade for a WR1 and some OLine pieces. Let Mac finish the year with those pieces and evaluate him off of that. We owe him a real shot with actual weapons. Of he can’t win games with that, then scrap the team except for young rookies/players and go from there.
If they fire him it'll destroy the notion of being a "made man" coach. The guy is HOF, Iconic, a 6x champion BUT because you're not getting wins anymore you're done. He honestly is just to involved in all the decisions. Step back a bit and just head coach. No play calling, no personnel decisions, no hiring your friends or kids, no draft control. Let the "Patriot Way" be your motto and let a better person for the job have at it.
@tylerd1297 He might not be as involved in it play by play as he might've once been. But I mostly just think his GM role is the primary reason the team is in such a state it is. His eye for talent certainly has diminished.
@@taylertroutt1327 i think Bill lucked into Brady, Gronk, hernandez, Wes Welker. He's certainly got a lot of value from lesser players but it created this false illusion or sense of ego. Belichick is a great mind but not the unbeatable mastermind that Brady propped him up to be
I knew the day Brady left the Football Gods no longer smiled on the Patriots. I could swallow the fact they were still relevant but they would decline. I had no idea that decline would be so precipitous. But man I am glad about it.
Just came across your channel like a week ago and I’m obsessed. Watched like 50 of your videos and love them. I have a lot of depression in my life and don’t have a lot of friends so your show makes me happy!Keep up good work, hope you keep doing this forever! God bless to you and your family!
"Bring something a little fresh to the table like the Lions OC Ben Johnson" As a lions fan, how dare you speak that into the universe. He's not going anywhere for a long time. Ben Johnson will be our OC forever (copium)
Just want to say, I'm a huge fan of yours, been marathoning your content for a couple weeks now. With that said I'm also a massive Jets fan and cannot wait for the next video haha
I played all thru high school, football hockey and lacrosse with a torn labrum and I knew something was wrong but I was still functional… unless he tore it in his hip?
As a Californian, thank you for the Dianne Feinstein reference, it was embarrassing having a Senator that wasn’t allowed to open a bank account in her personal life but can have a vote in Congress.
Sorry, I don’t feel bad for Bill. He tried to replace Brady with Jimmy G, and ended up being the reason he left. Brady won immediately after with a new team, showing that he clearly could still bring value to a good defensive team. Bill wants to be super involved in personnel decision, and to his credit, he is really good at picking out and developing defensive and ST players. But he has been terrible at evaluating offensive players the last 5-10 years, and that’s on him.
I'm a Pats fan and we have been terrible ever since the 2nd half of 2019. So being a bad team isn't necessarily a new thing. I have kinda been living in the headspace of being a bad team for a few years now. Although if you watch this team through the lens of a tragic comedy, watching their games becomes a lot more enjoyable rather than being painful
Right, some of the ways they've lost have been so hilariously bad that you can't be mad, and it's lowkey funny (like the Raiders game last year or all the 4th quarter fumbles).
As a pats fan who is only 17 and had the luxury of growing up under the Brady era, this season has felt humbling yet oddly refreshing. I wanna complain about our blowout losses to the Cowboys and Saints, but know that it would be spoiled of me to do so. All teams have to go through a rough patch, and it’s finally the patriots turn.
Damn you’re making me feel old dude, because honestly you missed a huge chunk of the Brady era. In the early to mid 2000’s he had already beat the Rams, Panthers and Eagles in Superbowls before you were even born. The Pats were so good during that time you couldn’t play as them in Madden without your friends accusing you of cheating lol.
I grew up during the Brady era too, I don’t think that it’d be spoiled of anyone to complain about the losses and blowouts, there are improvements that need to be made. Yeah, we’ve gotten used to winning. However, that doesn’t excuse poor performances by the team
I agree wholeheartedly. I’m over being sad about the Patriots and their poor performance. At this point I’m laughing honestly, and not because I want the Pats to lose. It’s because the way they play is laughable. Indeed, it’s our turn at the bottom of the division.
Up until this last week, you could retain hope. We went down to the last possession against the Eagles and Fins, and we beat the Jets in a surprisingly hard-fought contest. But the attrition of injuries to defense have only further compounded the weaknesses on offense-we have one good lineman in Cole Strange who’s injured, we have a slew of receivers who would be adequate complementary pieces, and this is the worst ground game I remember the Pats ever having.
2023 Patriots: WEEK 1: Lost by 5 points to last year's Super Bowl runners-up, and had 2 opportunities to win at the end of the game. LOOKING GOOD FOR THE PATS WEEK 2: Lost by a TD to a team who looks like they're going to the AFC championship, and the Pats still had an opportunity to tie it at the end of the game: LOOKING GOOD FOR THE PATS WEEK 3: Barely beat the Jets, but the Pats dominated the game. LOOKING GOOD FOR THE PATS WEEK 4: Oh God no WEEK 5: Thank god I live in Missouri now and can root for the Chiefs for the rest of he season
If I'm Bob Kraft I'm yelling Tank! Tank! Tank! Firing BB at the end of the year (GOAT of coaching but WOAT as a GM). Hire a young offensive coach and draft Caleb Williams. That's what I call a happy ending
As a Pats fan, I don’t even have to watch the video to 200% agree with anything you say about the team! They are beyond doubt a train wreck! And I place all the blame at the feet of Belichick. Weather Mac is the franchise quarterback or not, Belichick is the GM and hires the coaching staff, brings in the free agents and drafts the players…. This all falls on him. He let Brady leave and he’s paid the price for it ever since. I don’t see him still with the Patriots organization two years from now and if this season really goes in the toilet (I’ve no hope for it at all) he might be gonna after this year. Belichick ether needs to change his philosophy on team building and adapt or he will be out of a job. It might already be too late.
Belichick needs *high QUALITY plays from his QB with a CHEAP squad.* The Belichick now is no different from what he was in 2001. When he had it (like in 2001), he looked like a genius. When he didn't have it, like now, he looked like an id10t.
ok bud and im sure your ione of these clowns who screamed GET MAC OBRIAN IT WILL FIX HIM, we should of got rid of him and started looking for the next guy instesd of building a shit offence for him that cant even score more then 14ppg how is it belecheck fault for losing with a guy like colt mccoy ohh i meant mac jones lmao
@@2020-j5w dude don’t ever say that shit about me again 😂🤮 I’ve never been a Mac Jones fan. He started to trail off his rookie year I don’t think people remember that. He’s mid tier at the best. Pats might finish bad enough this year to get a franchise guy, or at least a rookie with more tangibles to work with.
I live in New England and I saw those jerseys for 40 bucks at tj Maxx I went back 2 weeks later and they were marked down to 30. They aren't even selling in new England
It was eventually going to happen. The fact that they were like a 12-win team for almost 20 years straight is never going to happen again. They should have regressed to the mean three or four times by now and gone well below it.
@@Rammstein0963.I think they meant for that span of time. No other team has or will likely be that winning for that long with no average seasons for 17 years. They lost their division once in that time and never went under 10 wins.
They basically had the same success superbowl winning wise that the best of franchises have had for their whole history in 20 years. It's really okay if they suck for a while. They also lost the greatest quarterback of all time.
I’m a pats fan and I like Mac Jones. We need a stud at WR. Look at Hurts, they got him AJ brown and Devonte Smith took a step forward and Hurts is elite now. We need to surround Mac with talent
Talent and give him a wall that won't force him to throw the ball in under 2 seconds on average. Remember how bad Fields was and yet had like 5-7 seconds on average to throw. Give mac that amount of time and a receiver that can actually get separation most of the time (or at least distract the secondary away from the other receivers) and you'd start seeing much more production. Look at brock purdy (love him btw). He's surrounded by weapons and has arguably the best and most versatile RB in the league and superstars on the the OL and he's lighting it up. As a QB, he has good IQ and fundamentals, just like Mac had in his rookie season. Give an average to decent QB a great offense to work with and they'll do great and improve to the point you don't need as many superstars around them. Give them crap and then you end up being the new Jets
As a Patriots fan I have enjoyed the change of pace over the past few years. Ive enjoyed the rest of the division doing well because I have no hatred for the other 3. I will say though, I would rather just be bad than mid so that something can be changed.
And to think that Juju Smith Schuster chose to leave the chiefs to New England for basically the same salary but just a smidge more guaranteed money I wonder if he regrets that move
Ehh wide outs who were drafted by Pittsburgh, don’t do well or repeat success else where… with the exception of Plaxico Burress, and Antonio Brown .. unless I’m forgetting somebody else
I absolutely love watching this channel. Perna has such great insight as well as the endless amounts of slams, for EVERYBODY, who isn't/can't perform is always fun to watch. Keep it up Brandon.
@@Woeisme2 it’s still good.. not great by any means with or without Judon who I like btw.. patriots have been trying to rebuild the last 3 seasons but after 3 bad drafts and free agency runs we’re right back to square one, if the patriots get a top 10 pick this year I’m scared of Bill being the one to make that pick.
I shared that banner with some of my gamer buddies and realized how old I am when most of them were more mad that the Cowboys got the win than Bill getting the loss. Guess his reign of terror isn't as bad in the minds of the youth. Take hope pats fans, as a Niners fan who grew up in the 80s and 90s, the hate will fade in time.
Ive lived in MA my whole life, born in 2000, and it’s so euphoric watching all of my friends be humbled after growing up knowing nothing but success and championships. The downside? I’m a panthers fan and we have even less to smile and be hopefully optimistic about…
One thing I’ll say for BB. You can’t take away the fact that BB has been a great Defensive Coach throughout his career. There were plenty of times the Pats won and saved Tom from a loss because of their defense. Not going to go through a long list, but really Tom’s first couple SB wins were helped out tremendously by the defense and the recent SB against the Rams where the final score was like 13 - 6 and was one of the lowest scoring SB’s in SB history.
Are we not going to act like the rams didn't draw up a perfect defensive gameplan as well? Yes, when all three phases play well that team tends to win. If you didn't have Brady that game, the rams win
So They just loss 34 - 0 just after this video. so was last week the worse or now this week since they got trounced. I think we can finally say Brady was the magic for the last 20 year
No, Belichick is definitely at least half responsible for the Dynasty. Him finally having the game pass him by in the last two seasons doesn’t retroactively make him bad for the previous 20
Our luck is so bad with WR’s that when we finally drafted one that was good in 2016 - Malcom Mitchell - he could only play one season before retiring due to injury.
The end of an Era. There will never be another Brady, he was the Larry Bird of the franchise with the whole team built around him. Can’t forget how he repeatedly took big pay cuts to keep others on the roster. Was never paid nearly what he was worth.
As a Pats fan, thank you for bringing this up This team needs new everything and if Bill doesn't change or leave we're gonna be a LOT worse than your Broncos
Honestly, pats fan here - this was coming. You're right, we had our time on top. I'm not even mad (at other fans who are happy for this). It's really clear to me that Mac isn't it. The WR corps aren't bad. Mac is making them look bad. I swear, every film breakdown I see is just full of Mac jones missing opportunities with WRs who are supposed to be his reads and who are wide open - not absolutely nobody within 10 yards, but NFL open. He looks like week 1 Justin Fields. Can he make some anticipation throws fields can't? Sure. But he also makes some boneheaded choices that make his weaknesses (immobility and poor arm strength) MUCH worse. It's not like CJ Stroud is out here throwing to AJ Brown and Davante Adams either - other QBs with worse weapons and line situations look better than Mac. You know who's *really* suffering from poor line play? Bryce Young. And even that won't be an excuse for him in a few years. Mac has never once had it that bad. I'm so sick of the excuses for him. If Brady had these guys he'd go wild - of course. But hell, I'd much rather have Jimmy G or even Tannehill than Mac in a vacuum. Really though, we need to tank this season. We've got young pieces on defense worth keeping - Dugger, Gonzales, maybe JC Jackson, Barmore - and need to sell off or let go our big free agent adds. Henry, Gesecki, Schuster, Parker, Zeke, Judon, Mills - all of them should not be re-signed and should be traded for picks if they have any value. Let Mac walk. Zappe isn't it but he's cheap and a fair bridge QB. Maybe Jimmy G if you'd like to try and be semi-relevant, especially if you're trying to see how good drafted WRs are. Oh, and take the draft away from Bill, please.
Mac’s problem is that when the team is losing or even has been put on the back foot, his ability to make smart decisions deteriorates dramatically. I think 2022 broke him, at least in New England.
Since you seem to watch the Pats, how's Bill o brien as OC? He was a clown in Houston but I'm curious to know, is it a good scheme? Does he use the players well
@@warlordofbritannia Nobody should be able to "break" a mid-20s man who's been playing football all his life. If that "broke" Mac Jones, he's too soft to play in the NFL at all.
@@tylerd1297 He's... alright. Some of his play designs have horrific spacing and I don't love them. Some of them don't seem to make a ton of sense. And many of them are actually quite clever and use the players where they're best. He's an upgrade over Patricia for sure, but I'd hesitate to call him anything special.
Yeah, Mac Jones isn't playing for Alabama anymore. Hell, I bet his Alabama squad would give this sorry excuse of Patriots a run for its money. And that rests ENTIRELY on the shoulders of general manager Bill Belichick. His strategic planning, personnel (drafting, free agency, and contract extension), and staffing decisions over the last 5 years have been mind-bogglingly poor. That's why the team has regressed to the laughingstock status it enjoyed in the early 90s before Bill Parcells was brought in to overhaul the mess. I think, as he showed in college, Mac Jones (weak arm and all) could be a solid contributor on NFL team with good talent around him. That won't be the situation in New England for at least several years. And, especially given his physical limitation, he's just not a guy who can put a sub-par team on his back and carry it to victory like Brady could. I thought back on watching the early 70s Dolphins of Shula/Griese/Csonka as a kid and not being especially impressed by Griese. The team had outstanding overall talent though. I suspect Mac Jones could have done quite well quarterbacking those teams. On a team like the 2023 Patriots, success would be avoiding hospitalization.
I've often said this to a couple friends who are Patriots fans and it holds true; When you lose the game's greatest quarterback, the only route to go is down and fast. Rebuilding a champion is difficult; especially when you've had success for nearly 20 years. New England could've benefited more had they rebuilt sooner. They could've addressed more needs that needed to be dealt with in the draft or free agency much better than what they did. What they did though was fail to find a proper successor to Tom Brady. They never thought of a future without TB12, and it's come back to haunt them.
Very true. I’m a pats fan, and it is wild to think how successful we were for so long. Especially considering that, on average, every team will win just one Super Bowl every 32 years
They very much thought about a future without TB12. It’s why they drafted Jimmy G. They more accurately didn’t think about a future without Josh McDaniels and Coach Scar
It was going to happen eventually. It comes to all, no one reigns forever. I just hope that we don't have another half-century of suckage like the old Boston Patriots.
Belichick is a perfect example of coaches getting more credit than they deserve. Brady was the GOAT and Belichick ride his coat tail. Andy Reid is only as good as his current quarterback . Players do not get enough credit for their hard work
In basketball sure, but football does seem like it's far more dependent on good coaching, just look at the chargers with a competent coach they should've won several playoff games. Or look at what demeco ryans has done for this genuinely awful team outside Stroud (again you may say Stroud is more to be credited and I'd probably agree)
As a Pats fan, I don't see things turning around soon unless two things happen; Bill stepping down as GM and us getting a competent QB. I think a lot of us thought that Mac Jones would be a Brady esque player in the sense that he could make smart decisions and get the ball out quickly, but that quickly turned out to be false. Our only bright spot ever since Brady left is the fact that we could rely on our defense to keep us in games until our offense figured out how to get things going, but as we've seen a lot (Jets, Steelers, Commanders, Broncos) an elite defense can only mask the stench of a bad offense for so long before others smell it. And boy does our offense stink. I don't think the rebuild will be as painful as people think, and ironically, being in the AFC, and more importantly, the AFC East could give us some high picks in which to put towards making a solid offense. But for now, all we can do is watch and embrace the suckage.
12:43 Well tbf 2023 QB draft class is looking like it might have been pretty huge with how good both Stroud and Richardson are playing right now. Granted, it’s only been 4 weeks lol so only time will tell. But both are them are looking pretty damn good as of now
Only took 20 years of torture for us to say "We're better", and it's like the 90s again where the Dolphins and Bills are powerhouses where the Patriots just wait in the corner. So happy, go Bills!
@@JoshuaZ.94 Regardless, you couldn't say that Miami wasn't good during that time. Had Marino not gotten hurt in 1993, they very well could've been a Super Bowl team, and they kept making(and not succeeding) in the postseason during the 90s.
as a patriots fan, i was ready for this since we won that SB against de Rams, knewing Tom was leaving....is going to be some rough rough years... hope we dont pull a cowboys one, and this becomes something of decades!
I know this sounds like a dumb take, but I'd let bellichick coach a team (even this bad) for like 10 more years until I'd want him to go. He did literally EVERYTHING for us and I feel like I'll always be okay w it, plus like yeah we were good for so long it's fine to be meh for a few years and this year be really really struggling. I'm ok with it.
It's the silver lining drawn by Chuck Noll... He coached through it all in the 1970's, and they kept him through the 80's and the Steelers had an almost lost decade. Things turned around after the signing of Bill Cowher in 92
Belichick needs *high QUALITY plays from his QB with a CHEAP squad.* The Belichick now is no different from what he was in 2001. When he had it (like in 2001), he looked like a genius. When he didn't have it, like now, he looked like an id10t.
so far he has had cam newton and mac jones how are you supposed to win with bad quarterback play? i remember Mark Sanchez and he was better then mac jones statistically and even belicheck couldn't win like a guy like that we just need a good qb the defense has been top 10 year after year
Kind of mixed on Mac Jones. He has been bad. But, at the same time, in his last season there they called Brady washed up because he was struggling some. Mostly due to the fact, that he only had Edelman and White to pass to. Jones doesn't even have that much.
I’m 2/3s of the way through and enjoying it as usual. Bonus, it’s not overloaded with sex or toilet jokes. I’ve been thinking your sponsor is grooming adolescent boys to become gamblers, it was getting so bad. Keeping my fingers crossed for the rest of your show. 😂
Idk if it was intentional but have it Derrick Henry there at the start of the video is kinda fitting. The last year Brady played in New England, Henry sent them home in the playoffs.
This was brilliant. Laughed out loud at 'Should we put Bill Belichick in a home?'...but laughed even louder at 'Satan is a Chiefs now'...yes. Yes he is. 🤣🤣🤣
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The amazing thing about Bellichick is that whether his team is down by 35, or leading by 35, he has the same sour expression on his face.
Jim Harbaugh syndrome
No, he's always acted like a sore loser we just didn't see it as much when Brady was there. We've seen him yelling at officials and acting childish and even more rudely to the media the past few years. When he won in week 3 vs the jets he was almost giddy.
@@JJ_5289bros hurt lol
That because, he’s smelling his own body oder
And thats why he should've been alive during WW2
Uh oh it got even worse today
Paging Dr Perna...
As a patriots fan, I was holding onto hope because of our defense. Now that Judon is down, and Gonzalez is out for the season, it's safe to say this season is over.
You need a new qb anyways. This year's draft is stocked.
@springheeledjack165 Yeah, Jones impressed me his rookie season but has regressed so hard it's wild.
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I kinda feel bad for Bill, not even a Pats fan. Just hate hearing all the people saying he was over rated or a hack. What do you want him to do, he's a defensive guy and his QB is fucking horrendous.
NE's D is still really good as always
@@shoeless1137thank you bro, people think bill is to blame when the positives are all thanks to him(Defense and ST)
In the Brady vs Belichick debate I was always of the opinion that they both needed each other (which is probably true). When the Patriots, specifically Belichick, mistreated the GOAT, I sided with Brady. Brady left and won a Superbowl. Belichick was a sub 500 coach before Brady showed up and he's a sub 500 coach since Brady left.
You can't have that level of success without giving everyone their flowers. It's also not a huge surprise that after losing someone as irreplaceable as the greatest quaterback(arguably football player) hasn't significantly regressed them. That's something that would cause any franchise to need some time to recover. The question is as great as bellicheck is, can he rebuild a franchise. It seems so far that answer is no. He might need to go before they get successful again.
For the first three titles, the argument that they both needed each other was true.
For the second three, Brady was by far the biggest cornerstone
@@otaviofrnazario I'd argue Brady was a bigger factor in the win against the Panthers than Belichick
@@alexdenty7041 for the super bowl specifically, it's true. But overall, Brady wasn't the dawg he was yet, either regarding skills or leadership. His best came later.
Bellichick's defense had a far bigger role on the overall those years
@@otaviofrnazario Your comment shows exact how clueless Pats fans are.
in 2001, Belichick's defense was supposed to carry 80-90% of the load, but Pats needed Brady's offense to get first round bye (3 comeback wins), needed Brady to save the team from own 3 yard line in SB, to deliver winning drive in SB. *Brady had to carry far far far more of the loads for Pats than he was supposed to* with the squad given by BeliCHEAP.
In 2003 (5 comeback wins), Belichick's defense didn't even carry 50% of the load. His good stats came from games against lousy offenses, like last 3 seasons.
Every team goes through ups and downs. Patriot fans are spoiled and they need to be humbled a little.
As a pats fan I agree
For real Pat's fans are the worst. The Eagles fans a close second.
Bill Belicheck's two decade long dynasty was a nice dream but now the pats fans wake up to the reality of their team looking like Belicheck's son's haircut :/
Same with Pittsburgh
@@springheeledjack165bills, cowboys, steelers, and eagles are all far worse. pats fans literally just mind our business, you people always want to bring up deflategate or spygate, which both had zero outcome of the game.
The fact that this video was released one day before they got absolutely shatted on again makes this even more perfect.
yea & it was the saints.....THE SAINTS
@@kroach97ENORMOUS MEATY KOK WHIPPED OUT IN FRONT OF A GROUP OF RETARDED KIDS AT A BAKE SALE
As a patriots fan, I’d like to say hey Brandon. Feels like yesterday our teams were facing off to go to Super Bowl 50. The last ever Brady vs Manning. Now look at us pal!! We’re competing for who can lose in more spectacular fashion LOL
This was for the Super Bowl
Now it can easily be a Tank Bowl in the next few years
Sorry bro, you lost that too. Denver lost in the most spectacular fashion in 6 decades…
Payton.....no Brees...a dud
Tomlin.....no Roethlisberger.......a dud
As a Steelers fan who lost 3 AFC Championships to your Pats, I feel your pain as well.
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As a Bills fan, its in my best interest for the pats to be bad forever. That being said, I have a hard time saying that BB's coaching is the problem. I know too many years of him kicking us into the dirt. Though, he has been a pretty mediocre GM. I think if the team brought in an actual GM they would have been much stronger by now. BB really just needs to focus on coaching.
The problem with the patriot is their Oline. Mac jones played all fine and well his first year. His second year they gave him a DC has an OC, then this year their OL goated coach retired. That carousel of O-line protection is abysmal. For some reason they are willingly paying trent brown good money when he has been their biggest crutch since his signing. Is Mac good this year? No. He's flustered and trying to play hero ball for 60 mins. Their running game is also non-existent bcuz of no concrete O-line. Andrews is the only bright spot they have right now
It was Tom Brady who was burying you guys in the dirt every year.
Its a strange feeling. The Pats got their 1st super bowl when I was in the first grade. I lived a half hour south of Gillette stadium so it was very much a local pride thing. The next 20 years of success really shaped my perspective. My dad dealt with a bad team, a bad stadium and some of the most violent crowds. Now I'm watching a Pats team a lot like the ones he did. I've got to think about the silver linings. Tickets will be cheaper now that they aren't a wagon and I get to be their to cheer on their comeback... however long that takes.
Belichick needs *high QUALITY plays from his QB with a CHEAP squad.*
When he had it (like in 2001), he looked like a genius.
When he didn't have it, like now, he looked like an id10t.
I was also in first grade and grew up like 40 min south of the stadium lol. Small world.
This is a very positive outlook
@@jacobkaufman5315 part of growing up in New England is watching every adult in your life feel the joy of that superbowl, then the Red Sox broke their losing streak too and won a World series. It really gave me the perspective that its about the love of the team and the game and that will be rewarded.
I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area. I was 10 in 1981. So i grew up in the same way with the Niners. As you know they were a Dynasty. A sure win for years. I can remember when they started to cool off. Started having losing seasons. I was in denial for a few years. Made excuse after excuse. Till finally one cold rainy day at Candlestick. It was the fourth quarter. I was soaking wet and freezing. The Steelers wear beating the brakes off us. I was almost the only Niner fan left in the Stadium. Steeler fan was EVERYWHERE! It was the at this point I knew it was over. No more excuses. We just sucked now. Broke my heart. 😢
BUT WE’RE BACK NOW BABY!!!! LETS GO NINERS!!!❤️💛❤️💛❤️
As I grew up my dad has repeatedly told me about the team’s woes during the 70s and 80s when he was young. So if this current era has given me anything it’s material to complain about as an old man.
Two words: Tony Eason.
I’ve definitely heard plenty of stories (and been shown “highlights”) of both Steve and Tony lol
My brother's wife is from Boston he lives there now (great city) and her daughter is a custom to the Patriots being winners as a kid she literally expected the Patriots in the superbowl every year and I told her "enjoy it now once Brady leaves it's all over!" And my brother and his wife couldn't agree more
I can relate being a Niner fan I was spoiled with Montana and Young as quarterback I remember my uncle saying appreciate it, the last 20 years have been humbling to say the least now the Patriots will go that same direction
@@AFBNoutside of a few blackhole of seasons for four years in the mid-2020’s, the 49ers have been good the last 12 years. They’ve just (in both Harbaugh’s or Shanahan’s 49er teams) unluckily ran into a buzzsaw of other hot or elite teams like the Giants, Ravens, Seahawks, Chiefs, Rams, or Eagles. All teams that were determined not to lose. They probably have the best ranked team in football right now, though maybe unlucky for them the division all around got stronger (even the tanking Cardinals are playing competent) and I really don’t trust Brock Purdy.
@@Gabriel2oh6 I wouldn't call that Giants team "elite", a pretty good team, but also a pretty beatable team, and Kyle Williams pretty much singlehandedly ruined the 49ers chances that year with his dumb play.
Democrat dump and ridden with drugs and crime
The team logos are always absolute gems. Kudos to whoever creates those for this channel, exceptional work.
As a life long Pats fan (early 80's) I remember when the Pats were the worst team in the NFL but we fid get 6 titles and 19 yrs of memories to look back on.
As a niners fan who grew up in the 80s and 90s, it only took languishing in mediocrity for most of the 00's for that hate to fade. I have a feeling it might take a bit longer for you guys, Brady and Belichick are way less likeable than Walsh/Seifert and Montana/Young,
Early '70s here. We've been awful before, we'll be good (and bad) again. The two decades were pretty incredible, though.
The Pats have played in 9 Super Bowls that means they won they won AFC nine times and won 6 of the nine Super Bowls they played in. Not too shabby.
Cherish those memories. I can imagine how fun they were
Enjoy living in the past
Back in 2017 when the conference championships were Jags/Pats and Eagles/Vikings, there was an article on the sadness on each fanbase. For the Pats it was "Maybe not now, but it will end and no one will feel sorry for them".
Of course, we've also gone full "Meet the new boss" with the Chiefs now largely being the dominant team. AFC Championship is now pretty much the "Arrowhead Invitational" (at least the Pats didn't host it every year despite making it for nearly a decade straight).
As a pats fan, the most infuriating part is that a lot of the fanbase still refuses to see it. Its still mostly "in Bill we trust" and/or its all Mac Jones' fault and we just need a new QB and everything will be all right.
But i dont see it being very quiet for much longer. Maybe we win this week and next because the saints and raiders also suck, but after that? We might not win another game all year
The o-line is problem #1 w/o that Mac would probably be more than sufficient, at least in the short term.
Dude they also play the Giants, Commanders, Colts, Steelers, and Jets. All winnable
@@Rekcha I'm telling you, without Judon and Gonzo, those games are not that winnable. Hell, we'd have lost to the Jets the first time if Zach Wilson wasn't particularly terrible. If he was even his normal brand of bad we lose that game too
@@Rammstein0963.Bad quarterbacks exacerbate everything makes an average offensive line look bad and makes average wide receiver look bad. Good quarterbacks do the opposite they make average offensive lines look good and average wide receivers look good. Mac Jones has been horrible since the second half of his rookie season that spans three different offensive coordinators it is clearly Mac Jones.
@Rammstein0963. I agree for the most part. A decent o-line would mean Mac would be fine. Nothing more, just fine. He'd still be throwing to receivers that literally can't get open but at least he'd have more than 2 seconds to do it
I’ve been waiting for what I assumed would be an extremely accurate synopsis of the Pats and I wasn’t disappointed. Thank you Mr Perna.
This era of New England football is what the rest of the league hoped for. The football gods have finally answered our prayers.
As a Pats fan I'm actually enjoying it as winning was honestly getting boring 🤷♂
@manchesterexplorer8519 I'm a Colts fan so been going through this for a few years.
@brios327 Hold on to that sentiment, for it will be returned should your team ever fall from the heights of success.
And you'll be just as bitter as the NE fanbase.
now satan worships kansas
@@Rammstein0963. Not all of us are all that bitter haha. Losing seasons had to come at some point in my life. Most Patriots fans under 35 don't even remember a losing season, including myself. Even the season with Cam was pretty fun imo. He was what we needed to hold the locker room together and be a leader the following year with a huge void of that.
As a Pats fan who just watched the Saints game, it's tough watching your team do this "not play well" thing.
I was watching it to my left whilst watching muh Texans lose to the Falcons. But *narrowly*. I didn't feel like the Texans disgraced Houston. Nobody's joking about us (this year).
The Saints game... yeah that wasn't good
came across this channel recently, awesome content! Keep up the great work.
As a lifelong Pats fan, you have absolutely hit the nail on the head with everything in this video
as a Bills fan, I smile on the dawn of better days. after 18 full years of no playoffs and losing to them. I look upon a grateful universe. Feels great. Go Bills
Enjoy it as it lasts , as most teams are very lucky to even have 4 years of winning in a row .
you have about 30 wins against us and a non consecutive blown SB run to go, before you can talk about “better days” coming.
@@stimihendrix3404the pats are garbage dude it is better days for the bills since they have dominated the division for past three years you had 20 years of great teams not anymore
@@rawleigh729 At least they are 3rd in cap space( under 1mil behind 2nd) for 2024 so Bill can go sign DJ Chark and Josh Reynolds at WR 😤😤. Really though, they could make some moves next year, especially if they end up sucking this year and draft top 8. Their D is already beaten to shit and the offense is obviously awful.
Mac may not end up being the guy but he has been done zero favors the last year+. His rookie year with McDaniels they were actually 6th in points scored and put up 45 points twice. He's had 3 OCs and they haven't had a good WR or pass catching RB since Edelman/White retired right before Mac came up.
where the f were the bills for 20 years the league could have used them doing anything to the patriots
This is the most well aged Perna take in history
Pats fan here after getting destroyed by the Saints. This season is done. I was hopeful with the good defensive play early, but Judon and Gonzo both out for the year is a significant blow. The single biggest problem with this team right now is the offensive line. We can't run the ball because the OLine can't block, and we're constantly getting in 3rd and 6 - 8. They know we're gonna pass on those downs, and the OLine can't buy Mac enough time to throw. We haven't had the same starting OLine take the field at all this season. Lastly, the receivers can't get seperation. We look like a dumpster fire.
It’s time for a full rebuild.
@@warlordofbritannia I think we should trade for a WR1 and some OLine pieces. Let Mac finish the year with those pieces and evaluate him off of that. We owe him a real shot with actual weapons. Of he can’t win games with that, then scrap the team except for young rookies/players and go from there.
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Nah, this season is too far gone to even try to salvage it. Embrace the tank
Not so easy when you dont have a franchise QB willing to take massive discounts.
If they fire him it'll destroy the notion of being a "made man" coach. The guy is HOF, Iconic, a 6x champion BUT because you're not getting wins anymore you're done. He honestly is just to involved in all the decisions. Step back a bit and just head coach. No play calling, no personnel decisions, no hiring your friends or kids, no draft control. Let the "Patriot Way" be your motto and let a better person for the job have at it.
Bill is probably too old for all the duties he’s been doing. To quote Frederick the Great, “He who defends everything defends nothing.”
Does Bill really call plays? I know infamous moments where he has but how involved is he now
@tylerd1297 He might not be as involved in it play by play as he might've once been. But I mostly just think his GM role is the primary reason the team is in such a state it is. His eye for talent certainly has diminished.
@@taylertroutt1327 i think Bill lucked into Brady, Gronk, hernandez, Wes Welker. He's certainly got a lot of value from lesser players but it created this false illusion or sense of ego. Belichick is a great mind but not the unbeatable mastermind that Brady propped him up to be
Every time he says"MACCorkle " I burst out laughing 😂 it's the little things
I mean, it is his name, albeit not his first name
Did he get this out the day before they got shutout at home? 😮 Well done
The best part about this is, this was before a 34 point BEAT DOWN in NORLEANS
I knew the day Brady left the Football Gods no longer smiled on the Patriots. I could swallow the fact they were still relevant but they would decline. I had no idea that decline would be so precipitous. But man I am glad about it.
Just came across your channel like a week ago and I’m obsessed. Watched like 50 of your videos and love them. I have a lot of depression in my life and don’t have a lot of friends so your show makes me happy!Keep up good work, hope you keep doing this forever! God bless to you and your family!
"Bring something a little fresh to the table like the Lions OC Ben Johnson"
As a lions fan, how dare you speak that into the universe. He's not going anywhere for a long time. Ben Johnson will be our OC forever (copium)
He would've left last year but dude loves Detroit so much he wanted to run it back. He'll be a head coach within a year, guaranteed 😂
Just want to say, I'm a huge fan of yours, been marathoning your content for a couple weeks now. With that said I'm also a massive Jets fan and cannot wait for the next video haha
Jets fan as well and if that defense wasn't so good we would be worse than Denver.
I feel for Gonzalez, I tore my labrum last december so I know how much of a pain it is to get it fully healed
Yow! I hope you're doing better✌️
I played all thru high school, football hockey and lacrosse with a torn labrum and I knew something was wrong but I was still functional… unless he tore it in his hip?
As a Californian, thank you for the Dianne Feinstein reference, it was embarrassing having a Senator that wasn’t allowed to open a bank account in her personal life but can have a vote in Congress.
Whoever let her stay in congress in that condition should be charged with some sort of crime
Sorry, I don’t feel bad for Bill. He tried to replace Brady with Jimmy G, and ended up being the reason he left. Brady won immediately after with a new team, showing that he clearly could still bring value to a good defensive team. Bill wants to be super involved in personnel decision, and to his credit, he is really good at picking out and developing defensive and ST players. But he has been terrible at evaluating offensive players the last 5-10 years, and that’s on him.
I'm a Pats fan and we have been terrible ever since the 2nd half of 2019. So being a bad team isn't necessarily a new thing. I have kinda been living in the headspace of being a bad team for a few years now. Although if you watch this team through the lens of a tragic comedy, watching their games becomes a lot more enjoyable rather than being painful
Right, some of the ways they've lost have been so hilariously bad that you can't be mad, and it's lowkey funny (like the Raiders game last year or all the 4th quarter fumbles).
As a pats fan who is only 17 and had the luxury of growing up under the Brady era, this season has felt humbling yet oddly refreshing. I wanna complain about our blowout losses to the Cowboys and Saints, but know that it would be spoiled of me to do so. All teams have to go through a rough patch, and it’s finally the patriots turn.
Damn you’re making me feel old dude, because honestly you missed a huge chunk of the Brady era. In the early to mid 2000’s he had already beat the Rams, Panthers and Eagles in Superbowls before you were even born. The Pats were so good during that time you couldn’t play as them in Madden without your friends accusing you of cheating lol.
I grew up during the Brady era too, I don’t think that it’d be spoiled of anyone to complain about the losses and blowouts, there are improvements that need to be made. Yeah, we’ve gotten used to winning. However, that doesn’t excuse poor performances by the team
I agree wholeheartedly. I’m over being sad about the Patriots and their poor performance. At this point I’m laughing honestly, and not because I want the Pats to lose. It’s because the way they play is laughable. Indeed, it’s our turn at the bottom of the division.
Nah you are being way to reasonable if anything is certain in this world its, death, taxes, and complaining when your football team loses
@@bennokraehe4470 What goes up must go down, we had our fair share of winning
As a lifelong Pats fan we had a lot of hope coming into this season. Improved defense, offense looking so much better. Then the season started…. Sigh!
Up until this last week, you could retain hope. We went down to the last possession against the Eagles and Fins, and we beat the Jets in a surprisingly hard-fought contest.
But the attrition of injuries to defense have only further compounded the weaknesses on offense-we have one good lineman in Cole Strange who’s injured, we have a slew of receivers who would be adequate complementary pieces, and this is the worst ground game I remember the Pats ever having.
They jus got blown out by the saints today yikes 😂😂
As a person that watched the Patriots when many superbowls I don’t feel sorry for them
That McVay laugh had me dying 😂
2023 Patriots:
WEEK 1: Lost by 5 points to last year's Super Bowl runners-up, and had 2 opportunities to win at the end of the game. LOOKING GOOD FOR THE PATS
WEEK 2: Lost by a TD to a team who looks like they're going to the AFC championship, and the Pats still had an opportunity to tie it at the end of the game: LOOKING GOOD FOR THE PATS
WEEK 3: Barely beat the Jets, but the Pats dominated the game. LOOKING GOOD FOR THE PATS
WEEK 4: Oh God no
WEEK 5: Thank god I live in Missouri now and can root for the Chiefs for the rest of he season
It’s amazing how two weeks can completely change the trajectory of a franchise
This is my favorite Patriots season ever!!! I've been waiting for this video 😃😁
Well, you clearly dont like them 😂
Waiting long for that ring too!
If I'm Bob Kraft I'm yelling Tank! Tank! Tank! Firing BB at the end of the year (GOAT of coaching but WOAT as a GM). Hire a young offensive coach and draft Caleb Williams. That's what I call a happy ending
I’m so here for NE’s downfall sucks right. Pats fans know how I’ve felt for the last 20 years
As a Pats fan, I don’t even have to watch the video to 200% agree with anything you say about the team! They are beyond doubt a train wreck! And I place all the blame at the feet of Belichick. Weather Mac is the franchise quarterback or not, Belichick is the GM and hires the coaching staff, brings in the free agents and drafts the players…. This all falls on him. He let Brady leave and he’s paid the price for it ever since. I don’t see him still with the Patriots organization two years from now and if this season really goes in the toilet (I’ve no hope for it at all) he might be gonna after this year. Belichick ether needs to change his philosophy on team building and adapt or he will be out of a job. It might already be too late.
Belichick needs *high QUALITY plays from his QB with a CHEAP squad.* The Belichick now is no different from what he was in 2001.
When he had it (like in 2001), he looked like a genius.
When he didn't have it, like now, he looked like an id10t.
Bud, Mac isn’t a franchise QB. He’s a quality Chad henne, back up type. He can win a game or two.
He doesn’t have the physical talent and it shows
ok bud and im sure your ione of these clowns who screamed GET MAC OBRIAN IT WILL FIX HIM, we should of got rid of him and started looking for the next guy instesd of building a shit offence for him that cant even score more then 14ppg how is it belecheck fault for losing with a guy like colt mccoy ohh i meant mac jones lmao
@@2020-j5w dude don’t ever say that shit about me again 😂🤮
I’ve never been a Mac Jones fan. He started to trail off his rookie year I don’t think people remember that. He’s mid tier at the best.
Pats might finish bad enough this year to get a franchise guy, or at least a rookie with more tangibles to work with.
every texans fan was yelling that BoB was a downgrade, but somehow people were convinced he was "a good coach, just a bad GM"
Who else is here after the 34-0 violation.
I live in New England and I saw those jerseys for 40 bucks at tj Maxx I went back 2 weeks later and they were marked down to 30. They aren't even selling in new England
It was eventually going to happen. The fact that they were like a 12-win team for almost 20 years straight is never going to happen again. They should have regressed to the mean three or four times by now and gone well below it.
Never? So teams can never regain their winning ways?
Would you like to run down the list of teams who've done just that?
@@Rammstein0963.I think they meant for that span of time. No other team has or will likely be that winning for that long with no average seasons for 17 years. They lost their division once in that time and never went under 10 wins.
They basically had the same success superbowl winning wise that the best of franchises have had for their whole history in 20 years. It's really okay if they suck for a while. They also lost the greatest quarterback of all time.
Good night Bill. He pissed me off when he took Butler out, and ruined the defense. Let Philadelphia score easily in the Superbowl.
I remember watching the 2019 wild card going “wow so this is the end of the patriots dynasty at last” and I was right to think that.
So maybe it was Tom Brady that was making Bill look so SMART???
I’m a pats fan and I like Mac Jones. We need a stud at WR. Look at Hurts, they got him AJ brown and Devonte Smith took a step forward and Hurts is elite now. We need to surround Mac with talent
Talent and give him a wall that won't force him to throw the ball in under 2 seconds on average. Remember how bad Fields was and yet had like 5-7 seconds on average to throw. Give mac that amount of time and a receiver that can actually get separation most of the time (or at least distract the secondary away from the other receivers) and you'd start seeing much more production. Look at brock purdy (love him btw). He's surrounded by weapons and has arguably the best and most versatile RB in the league and superstars on the the OL and he's lighting it up. As a QB, he has good IQ and fundamentals, just like Mac had in his rookie season.
Give an average to decent QB a great offense to work with and they'll do great and improve to the point you don't need as many superstars around them. Give them crap and then you end up being the new Jets
As a Patriots fan I have enjoyed the change of pace over the past few years. Ive enjoyed the rest of the division doing well because I have no hatred for the other 3.
I will say though, I would rather just be bad than mid so that something can be changed.
Yeah, being a Bills fan through 15 years of either mediocre or worse than mediocre teams sucked. Always got your hopes up, and always let you down
Yea, y’all were never the worst of the worst. Same with my team, commanders. It’s like being abandoned in purgatory
Same with the Dolphins. Always right around .500 . The Jets were really the only trash team.
And to think that Juju Smith Schuster chose to leave the chiefs to New England for basically the same salary but just a smidge more guaranteed money I wonder if he regrets that move
Ehh wide outs who were drafted by Pittsburgh, don’t do well or repeat success else where… with the exception of Plaxico Burress, and Antonio Brown .. unless I’m forgetting somebody else
Probably since he would've been pencilled in for 1000 if healthy, won another superbowl and been Mahomes wr1.
I absolutely love watching this channel. Perna has such great insight as well as the endless amounts of slams, for EVERYBODY, who isn't/can't perform is always fun to watch. Keep it up Brandon.
Thank you for pointing out that Bill’s terrible job at GM is why the patriots are where they are!!
His defense is still great though. But probably not much anymore since they lost a few key players.
@@Woeisme2 it’s still good.. not great by any means with or without Judon who I like btw.. patriots have been trying to rebuild the last 3 seasons but after 3 bad drafts and free agency runs we’re right back to square one, if the patriots get a top 10 pick this year I’m scared of Bill being the one to make that pick.
As a Patriots fan.....ain't nothing quiet about this lmao, we suck....is this what it feels like to be terrible?! Oh man, it's weird
Can’t wait for a follow up after today’s game 😂
I shared that banner with some of my gamer buddies and realized how old I am when most of them were more mad that the Cowboys got the win than Bill getting the loss. Guess his reign of terror isn't as bad in the minds of the youth. Take hope pats fans, as a Niners fan who grew up in the 80s and 90s, the hate will fade in time.
Shouldn’t the Patriots have an edition of ‘The New New New New New New New New New New New New New New New Worst Game Ever’ ?
Ive lived in MA my whole life, born in 2000, and it’s so euphoric watching all of my friends be humbled after growing up knowing nothing but success and championships. The downside? I’m a panthers fan and we have even less to smile and be hopefully optimistic about…
To quote Mike McDaniels: "Dude, I play with Legos and got married, that's hard. Beating Bill Belichick is easy"
I had to remind a bunch of friends from school that when we were kids? They were a sub-.500 team for YEARS.
One thing I’ll say for BB. You can’t take away the fact that BB has been a great Defensive Coach throughout his career. There were plenty of times the Pats won and saved Tom from a loss because of their defense.
Not going to go through a long list, but really Tom’s first couple SB wins were helped out tremendously by the defense and the recent SB against the Rams where the final score was like 13 - 6 and was one of the lowest scoring SB’s in SB history.
Are we not going to act like the rams didn't draw up a perfect defensive gameplan as well? Yes, when all three phases play well that team tends to win. If you didn't have Brady that game, the rams win
Saw this video, forgot about it, and am now coming back as the Pats are down 31-0 in the 4th quarter to the Saints
34-0😂
I don't see anything sad about this, it is hilarious what is happening to the pats and I am here for every millisecond of it!!🙌🏼😁
Tears it gets even worse
It’s crazy to think if Zach Wilson was decent one week earlier than he was the patriots season would’ve been over and loudly such a shame
This video needs an update after what the saints did to them today
Pete Carroll gave up some of his power and look at the post-Wilson hawks now
It proves the argument that it was Tommy that brought championships to the Patriots. Fire the GM for picking Jones
It's so nice how hating the Pats and Brady can bring us all together.
Bradys retired, move on haha
@@CannibalOX99he will live in their heads for many years to come
@lvx4408 I use to hate him. It's easier to just respect his greatness lol
Just goes to show who was the one that was mostly responsible for their success the last few decades. When he went, they went...down.
So They just loss 34 - 0 just after this video. so was last week the worse or now this week since they got trounced. I think we can finally say Brady was the magic for the last 20 year
No, Belichick is definitely at least half responsible for the Dynasty. Him finally having the game pass him by in the last two seasons doesn’t retroactively make him bad for the previous 20
Our luck is so bad with WR’s that when we finally drafted one that was good in 2016 - Malcom Mitchell - he could only play one season before retiring due to injury.
The end of an Era. There will never be another Brady, he was the Larry Bird of the franchise with the whole team built around him. Can’t forget how he repeatedly took big pay cuts to keep others on the roster. Was never paid nearly what he was worth.
he knew he could get that money from endorsements.
As a Pats fan, thank you for bringing this up This team needs new everything and if Bill doesn't change or leave we're gonna be a LOT worse than your Broncos
Honestly, pats fan here - this was coming. You're right, we had our time on top. I'm not even mad (at other fans who are happy for this). It's really clear to me that Mac isn't it. The WR corps aren't bad. Mac is making them look bad. I swear, every film breakdown I see is just full of Mac jones missing opportunities with WRs who are supposed to be his reads and who are wide open - not absolutely nobody within 10 yards, but NFL open. He looks like week 1 Justin Fields. Can he make some anticipation throws fields can't? Sure. But he also makes some boneheaded choices that make his weaknesses (immobility and poor arm strength) MUCH worse. It's not like CJ Stroud is out here throwing to AJ Brown and Davante Adams either - other QBs with worse weapons and line situations look better than Mac. You know who's *really* suffering from poor line play? Bryce Young. And even that won't be an excuse for him in a few years. Mac has never once had it that bad. I'm so sick of the excuses for him. If Brady had these guys he'd go wild - of course. But hell, I'd much rather have Jimmy G or even Tannehill than Mac in a vacuum. Really though, we need to tank this season. We've got young pieces on defense worth keeping - Dugger, Gonzales, maybe JC Jackson, Barmore - and need to sell off or let go our big free agent adds. Henry, Gesecki, Schuster, Parker, Zeke, Judon, Mills - all of them should not be re-signed and should be traded for picks if they have any value. Let Mac walk. Zappe isn't it but he's cheap and a fair bridge QB. Maybe Jimmy G if you'd like to try and be semi-relevant, especially if you're trying to see how good drafted WRs are. Oh, and take the draft away from Bill, please.
Mac’s problem is that when the team is losing or even has been put on the back foot, his ability to make smart decisions deteriorates dramatically. I think 2022 broke him, at least in New England.
Since you seem to watch the Pats, how's Bill o brien as OC? He was a clown in Houston but I'm curious to know, is it a good scheme? Does he use the players well
@@warlordofbritannia Nobody should be able to "break" a mid-20s man who's been playing football all his life. If that "broke" Mac Jones, he's too soft to play in the NFL at all.
@@tylerd1297 He's... alright. Some of his play designs have horrific spacing and I don't love them. Some of them don't seem to make a ton of sense. And many of them are actually quite clever and use the players where they're best. He's an upgrade over Patricia for sure, but I'd hesitate to call him anything special.
Yeah, Mac Jones isn't playing for Alabama anymore. Hell, I bet his Alabama squad would give this sorry excuse of Patriots a run for its money. And that rests ENTIRELY on the shoulders of general manager Bill Belichick. His strategic planning, personnel (drafting, free agency, and contract extension), and staffing decisions over the last 5 years have been mind-bogglingly poor. That's why the team has regressed to the laughingstock status it enjoyed in the early 90s before Bill Parcells was brought in to overhaul the mess. I think, as he showed in college, Mac Jones (weak arm and all) could be a solid contributor on NFL team with good talent around him. That won't be the situation in New England for at least several years. And, especially given his physical limitation, he's just not a guy who can put a sub-par team on his back and carry it to victory like Brady could. I thought back on watching the early 70s Dolphins of Shula/Griese/Csonka as a kid and not being especially impressed by Griese. The team had outstanding overall talent though. I suspect Mac Jones could have done quite well quarterbacking those teams. On a team like the 2023 Patriots, success would be avoiding hospitalization.
I hate that you’re a broncos fan however your content in fantastic and entertaining. You are officially the only broncos fan I will ever sub to.
34-0 ouch
As a pats fan the end of the video was really painful....(15:30)
I've often said this to a couple friends who are Patriots fans and it holds true; When you lose the game's greatest quarterback, the only route to go is down and fast.
Rebuilding a champion is difficult; especially when you've had success for nearly 20 years. New England could've benefited more had they rebuilt sooner. They could've addressed more needs that needed to be dealt with in the draft or free agency much better than what they did. What they did though was fail to find a proper successor to Tom Brady. They never thought of a future without TB12, and it's come back to haunt them.
Very true. I’m a pats fan, and it is wild to think how successful we were for so long. Especially considering that, on average, every team will win just one Super Bowl every 32 years
They very much thought about a future without TB12. It’s why they drafted Jimmy G. They more accurately didn’t think about a future without Josh McDaniels and Coach Scar
That is what Jimmy G was supposed to be, but Brady and Kraft threw a tantrum and so Jimmy G gets shipped out to the Niners
It took four seasons to bottom out from losing the GOAT…honestly, that’s an achievement in of itself
@@warlordofbritanniaThey haven’t bottomed out yet, and it’s because they have the GOAT HC
It was going to happen eventually. It comes to all, no one reigns forever. I just hope that we don't have another half-century of suckage like the old Boston Patriots.
They just got shut out by the saints 34-0
So true. I remeber seeing Drew lock and Bridgewater jerseys at Ross even before we got russ. 😂😂.
Quietly💀 nahh
just found your channel, you're fire funny af love this, informational and makes me laugh sko brah
Belichick is a perfect example of coaches getting more credit than they deserve. Brady was the GOAT and Belichick ride his coat tail. Andy Reid is only as good as his current quarterback . Players do not get enough credit for their hard work
In basketball sure, but football does seem like it's far more dependent on good coaching, just look at the chargers with a competent coach they should've won several playoff games. Or look at what demeco ryans has done for this genuinely awful team outside Stroud (again you may say Stroud is more to be credited and I'd probably agree)
It's clear to me Pats need an o line, recievers aren't the problem
As a Pats fan, I don't see things turning around soon unless two things happen; Bill stepping down as GM and us getting a competent QB. I think a lot of us thought that Mac Jones would be a Brady esque player in the sense that he could make smart decisions and get the ball out quickly, but that quickly turned out to be false. Our only bright spot ever since Brady left is the fact that we could rely on our defense to keep us in games until our offense figured out how to get things going, but as we've seen a lot (Jets, Steelers, Commanders, Broncos) an elite defense can only mask the stench of a bad offense for so long before others smell it. And boy does our offense stink. I don't think the rebuild will be as painful as people think, and ironically, being in the AFC, and more importantly, the AFC East could give us some high picks in which to put towards making a solid offense. But for now, all we can do is watch and embrace the suckage.
2022 ruined Mac
The problem is the shitty offensive coaching....Brady used to call his own plays and so does Jones now
12:43 Well tbf 2023 QB draft class is looking like it might have been pretty huge with how good both Stroud and Richardson are playing right now. Granted, it’s only been 4 weeks lol so only time will tell. But both are them are looking pretty damn good as of now
Only took 20 years of torture for us to say "We're better", and it's like the 90s again where the Dolphins and Bills are powerhouses where the Patriots just wait in the corner. So happy, go Bills!
Don't worry, eventually you'll be back to shot putting your remote at the TV after *another* Pats win, it's all a big circle. 😁👍
The Patriots won the AFC once in the 90s. The dolphins 0
@@JoshuaZ.94 Regardless, you couldn't say that Miami wasn't good during that time. Had Marino not gotten hurt in 1993, they very well could've been a Super Bowl team, and they kept making(and not succeeding) in the postseason during the 90s.
Pats will be back one day.
as a patriots fan, i was ready for this since we won that SB against de Rams, knewing Tom was leaving....is going to be some rough rough years... hope we dont pull a cowboys one, and this becomes something of decades!
I know this sounds like a dumb take, but I'd let bellichick coach a team (even this bad) for like 10 more years until I'd want him to go.
He did literally EVERYTHING for us and I feel like I'll always be okay w it, plus like yeah we were good for so long it's fine to be meh for a few years and this year be really really struggling. I'm ok with it.
It's the silver lining drawn by Chuck Noll... He coached through it all in the 1970's, and they kept him through the 80's and the Steelers had an almost lost decade. Things turned around after the signing of Bill Cowher in 92
Belichick needs *high QUALITY plays from his QB with a CHEAP squad.* The Belichick now is no different from what he was in 2001.
When he had it (like in 2001), he looked like a genius.
When he didn't have it, like now, he looked like an id10t.
I'm also not willing to give up on belichick, not even close. Ain't no one else I'd want coaching my team.
so far he has had cam newton and mac jones how are you supposed to win with bad quarterback play? i remember Mark Sanchez and he was better then mac jones statistically and even belicheck couldn't win like a guy like that we just need a good qb the defense has been top 10 year after year
Kind of mixed on Mac Jones. He has been bad. But, at the same time, in his last season there they called Brady washed up because he was struggling some. Mostly due to the fact, that he only had Edelman and White to pass to. Jones doesn't even have that much.
I’m 2/3s of the way through and enjoying it as usual. Bonus, it’s not overloaded with sex or toilet jokes. I’ve been thinking your sponsor is grooming adolescent boys to become gamblers, it was getting so bad. Keeping my fingers crossed for the rest of your show. 😂
Idk if it was intentional but have it Derrick Henry there at the start of the video is kinda fitting. The last year Brady played in New England, Henry sent them home in the playoffs.
This was brilliant. Laughed out loud at 'Should we put Bill Belichick in a home?'...but laughed even louder at 'Satan is a Chiefs now'...yes. Yes he is.
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That Greg Jennings reference😂😂…. Thank you for that. Ever time I hear his name I hear that clip.