The "gray market" in Star Citizen: The report - dealers, dangers, interviews & terms
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
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In this video, we take a deep dive into the controversial and fascinating depths of the gray market in Star Citizen.
Star Citizen's "gray market" is large, complex, and incredibly detailed. In this report we shed light on the actors and practices of the gray market. We will examine the risks and benefits of this alternative trading system and also take a look at the legal issues.
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00:00 start
00:05 The gray market in Star Citizen
00:54 The only official shop for Star Citizen - The Pledge Store & Taxes!
03:55 Legal aspects & purchase or licensing law?
05:35 Tolerated trading & various platforms and offers
06:05 Star Hangar & The Impound
08:15 Interview with Star Hangar
37:00 Written interview with The Impound
43:28 Conclusion & Summary - Everything promotes development
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A great way to get ships, but there's always risk. I've never had any problems with SH, Reddit, or Ebay, but one needs to be smart, and fastidious with all methods. Generally I would only use them for the missing links, or the cheapest target CCUs, spending minimal possible, and get the most via the legit store.
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Very interesting. Being a backer for many years, I never knew there was something like a "safe place" for ships in the grey market. But what absolutely amazes me, is that Star Hangar can operate their business (with multiple employees) basically by the percentage they get with each sell. So that means there must be quite some transactions per month going on.
I always imagined the grey market more "shady" ;-). Thanks a lot for the information.
Exact sales figures would have been very exciting 😅
A very good video about the gray market, "CCU-Gameplay," and a really interesting interview with the SC trading platform "Star Hangar." Karo, thank you very much for the video on this topic.
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Interesting video, would have liked to see a bit more research on the Reddit market however and a pros/cons summary of the different options so potential users have all of the information.
I've been on the Reddit market for a few years now, the big difference in almost all cases is whether I buy from a single seller or on a marketplace. There can be difficulties everywhere, but there can also be good offers. The aim was to bring the topic into light 🤞
Yep, understood. I'm a trader on the Reddit market so anything like this that gives awareness of both the risks and potential benefits of all options is advantageous to potential users.
Da man bis zum release noch viel Zeit hat empfehle ich CCUs zu sammeln (immer die günstigeste Alternative für 5-15€) und 1-2 Jahre zu warten. Wenn Spielpakete mit einem LTI-Schiff oder günstige LTI-Schiffe herauskommen nutzen um einen zweit, dritt oder wie vielt auch immeraccount zu referraln, da das Spielpaket kaufen und nach 30 Tagen auf den Hauptaccount giften.
Prospects werden zu Recruits und man steigt im Referralrang und bekommt ab 5 Recruits sogar einen Buggy mit LTI + Fischtank für den Hangar!
Außerdem gibt es bei den Freeflights oft Referralboni wie z.B. ein Hoverquad oder MPUV - da kann man also doppelt absahnen!
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Thanks for this video Karolinger. I use to buy on eBay and Reddit, also selling. Probably I will use Star Hangar next time 😊
I always use PayPal during buying or selling.
Always make sure you get an LTI option. This will be very important in 2050!
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I now see that taxes can breath a lot of life into the grey market. Gives a less antagonistic take.
Thank you as always Karolinger. Wave one is getting close, hopefully. Or we are getting more added, imo.
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That’s great info Karolinger!! Thank you. Iv always wondered how this was possible
Thanks for the video and the interesting talk with Star Hangar 👍
Kannte ich gar nicht so im Detail. Danke ❤
Gerne 😊
Very cool video! I've never looked into the grey market for ships but I have glanced at the CCU Game.
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Thx for the Report
I have been wondering about these sites. Thanks
Very cool interview. I didn't realize that Star Hangar was so old. Or German. But you can tell how much Marc is into the game by the Connie model and the Citizen's Card on the shelf behind him. And I'm guessing his isn't from Etsy. 😁 I've always liked Star Hangar's business. They're not always they cheapest source, but if you're going to buy from the Grey Market, they're really reliable. I'm glad they're registered and based in the US. If I wanted to _sell_ through Star Hangar, where I have to pay German VAT, then listed something on Star Hangar where I'd have to add another VAT, and then PayPal fees, it'd be really hard to compete with sellers from the US. TBF, I wouldn't be doing it to make money, I'd be doing it to build my Chairman's Club level and selling at cost, but then probably still more expensive than a US seller doing it as a side-hustle.
5:00 problem is digital goods is they are a very fast way to launder money, hence why the gamining comission was so in to putting Lootboxes in everything because gambling takings have higher returns then direct buy of digital goods.
it's perfects because they have virtuually no overheads outside the game upkeep and updates which could be done with a tiny crew if they can pefect the game
then they just staff excess with family members or loyal frend of freidns in marketing roles bascially if the comapny is making to much money laundering the money though people becomes the other alternative anyway.
they pay a cut to the gov and you get them to cover some pention fund with a few hundred each a month.
like the game is complex but not obscure enough not to notice.
getting in to GAMING before 2025 might be a good option because there is an economy that is stronger and safer than the war economy
Thank you for the video, Im learning so much new all time!
You're welcome 🤩
Thank you for making this video 🤗
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I love this video and I will be sharing it to my Org. Thank you for breaking it down so I dont have too
Thank you 💪
@@MrKarolinger Keep up the good work. Backer since 2017 and through the highs and low I've been excited for the potential of this game
Very informative video - well done 👍
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I have used both markets so it was interesting to hear about the differences.
Thanks for a great video!
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also in english a nice video💪
Should look into selling some of my old LTI pledges though don't want to get scammed.
I also have a few unused pledges that I should bring out of the hangar 😅
Definitely appreciate your content 🙏🏿 👌 🙌🏿
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interesting take tkx
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The worst issue to me is that the 90 days guarantee I.E., the Star Hangar offers, cannot cover future issues. If the selles has issues with CGI in the far future you can STILL lose the pack or upgrade, and in the case of an upgrade in the middle of your own CCI chain, it could lead to even more damages than the grey market upgrade price you agreed to pay.
a risk always remains outside the PledgeStore 🤞
I dont deal with they grey market. I buy ships to support the development of the game
Very nice Report 👍🫶🫡
Thank you 🚀
I bought a ship and had no problems, but it's still risky.
VAT is wild. When's the revolution?
Great video. These services appear a lot more safe than i tought.
I watched this in German now rewatching it in English 😊
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A easy way to safe money, if you don‘t want to build your own chains.
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noice
Does this video mention that if a player claims they are "hacked" to CIG, they can reclaim any ship they send you via gifting?
At literally any point, any grey market ship you buy can be taken from you with zero recourse.
In short: The Grey market isn't worth it.
If the seller is a fraud, the item will be removed from the account. The claims against this seller are then not CIG's problem and will not be processed. Therefore, trust in the seller is critical in the gray market 🤞
the more expensive the cheaper i can sell a ship due to CCU chaining
True 😅
Don't waste more than the starter $45, legit there isn't a single ship worth more than that in the whole "game".
Worth is subjective.
one starter ship is enough for everything. You can earn anything with it 💪
Personally I feel adding 20 USD or so to upgrade the starter to an Avenger might be worth it. No need to do it on day one, though. Only if you like it. And you would still be in the price range for a game. But you would not need a grey market to do so.
I play the game from time to time and im nobody that need all ships it´s far to expensive to pay 500 bucks for a digital ship. Ebay is your best friend you get 20 million credits for around 10 bucks and with 20 million you can buy so much ships and have fun in the game and 10 to 30 bucks a year for some credits is ok for me.
You can make millions in game for nothing but a little time.
That's changing.
Only the AUEC are gone again with the next wipe 😅
This whole video is an advertisement
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