Haydn - Symphony No. 104 - London (Proms 2012)
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- Prom 75: Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra -- Haydn & R. Strauss
Haydn - Symphony No. 104 in D major, 'London'
Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra
Bernard Haitink conductor
Royal Albert Hall, 7 September 2012
What a iconic mood: when you write over 100 symphonies, and you get to the point where you just throw in two mesures of silence, cause that's where you're at.
big mood
Haydn's last few years were difficult for him, since new musical ideas kept running through his mind, but he no longer had the energy to develop them.
@@westlock
You’re quite right, but he said this in the early 1800’s about ten years after composing this symphony (1795).
Haydn was in retirement in Vienna, was too weak to compose anything further, but as he said himself, he was ‘tortured’ by ideas.
Those sudden silences are almost a Haydn trademark. Perhaps he wanted to be sure his audiences paid attention. 😁
@@jochanaan58
The pauses or silent bars Haydn sometimes puts in are all part of the dramatic effect, and tend to ratchet up the tension as in:
i) Symphony 39 - first movement exposition.
ii) Piano sonata in b minor(Hob. XVI:32) - Finale.
iii) Symphony 101 (‘The Clock’) - Andante movement, where the empty bars (half of 98 and all of 99) very effectively prepare the ear for the abrupt change of key - for 1794 - from G to E flat.
iv) Et cetera.
These silences or pauses by the way are almost never humorous as suggested by many of the RUclips critics, and Beethoven used them as did Haydn; interestingly, Mozart rarely did, and that’s one of the reasons many people find his music better balanced and more smoothly flowing than the sometimes odd disruptions and defying of expectations you find in Haydn and Beethoven.
This really brings back memories...
Franz Joseph Haydn Get back to your grave
Hahaha :)
when are you gonna compose your next symphony?
One of the best comments I have ever seen.
So where are you these days? London? Vienna? Elsewhere?
RIP Bernard Haitink 1929-2021
It's not that I'm shocked - he lived 92 years in this life. I'm very saddened to hear of his passing though. Haitink was one of the greatest conductors of our age and a true ambassador of his art. Humble and faithful to the music in every situation, his sober and revealing visions of such a wide range of repertoire has left us with a rich recorded legacy of some of the greatest reference recordings, made with the greatest orcheatras in the world. And that's without even touching on his eminently distinguished career with the great Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra of Amsterdam.
Since the very beginning of my journey with orchestral music, my record collection has gotten steadily more littered with Haitink readings. Despite his notable absence of flamboyance or histrionics - dare I say ego, even - with Haitink, you can safely go for absolutely ANY of his recordings, without ANY hesitation or need for prior research or reviews, and rest assured in the knowledge that you'll ALWAYS be presented with an outstanding, emotionally intelligent and profound rendition of whatever that piece may be. There's not many conductors in that bracket. I was just lucky enough to catch Haitink live a couple of times, including a stunning Bruckner 6th symphony with the Dresden Staatskapelle. I'm very sad to hear he has left us.
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I 0:02
II 9:42
III 16:53
IV 21:56
Thank you for marking the movements
God bless you.
Thx ya
Thank you!
1. Adagio: 0:00-2:14
1. Allegro: 2:15-9:15
2. Andante: 9:40-16:45
3. Menuetto: 16:55- 21:55 (18:40 for trio)
4. Finale: 21:56-28:45
Not all Heroes wear; capes :')
Thank you so much! This really helped me!
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Thank you Emily!
who's here just because they love this piece
This was the first ever Haydn symphony I ever heard, I was always a fan of Beethoven. While reading Beethoven's biography, I came to know that Haydn briefly taught him at some point so I decided to listen to his symphonies and man, as soon as the symphony started I was like "yup, this guy trained Beethoven" . Haydn easily became one of my favourite composers because his compositions are a blend between Beethoven and Mozart, both melodious and epic
Same with me…first Haydn I ever heard. Haydn is second only to Mozart for me….
I love your reply. It explains beautifully why it is so enjoyable to listen to. How can we upvote your response to the top of comments?
Very well said, me I love Symphony 94
Dear Faiq Hayden is underestimated in the world to day. He has been called the father of the symphony and the string quartet. He had very famous neighbors in his life, Mozart and Beethoven, and new them both. He is half forgotten here in Iceland, but not in Europe I believe. His last symphonies, the London Symphonies, are his greatest and this one was his last.
@@einarkristjansson6812
Hayden (Recte: Haydn) is not underestimated, though his music is probably not as well known as it should be; neither is he the father of either the symphony or string quartet- an absurd proposition that only survives today because it is endlessly re-cycled without a thought given to the fact that it is complete nonsense, and factually unsustainable.
Haydn is better known and understood in some countries than others, but that’s true of most composers.
Haydn knew Mozart and Beethoven very well; as all three lived in Vienna, I suppose they were neighbours, though Beethoven didn’t arrive in the city until after Mozart’s death so never met him.
The ‘London’ symphonies are some of the greatest 18th century Classical symphonies - along with Mozart’s last six; but don’t under-estimate many of Haydn’s earlier symphonies which are very great as well.
I would suggest about 65 out of the 107 (sic) could be labelled as ‘absolutely essential listening’,
41 as ‘essential listening’,
and 1 is ‘required listening’, necessary just to say you know all 107 and have completed the set
(Tease - which one ?).
I’ve got played this four hands piano many times, and even in that reduced form its magnificence comes through. What a symphony !
Yes 🥰 this is what I have
It is so cute !!!! Yahoo ❤
This is a very fine performance. Not everyone will agree with the "dual tempos" approach to II, but it works for me. Haitink is an international treasure.
When I get to Heaven I will ask Haydn to compose another symphony for me. He is really good.
If I only I knew why Haydn was not as famous as Mozart. I know most of his works now after 37 years of listening: the man is set apart at the very height of musical creation - it was worth a life to be here to and know his music, I truly believe that.
God loves you mate! Believe in him and there is no doubt you will be there
When I get to Hell, I am going to try to do a collaborative piece with Wagner. If not, I am sure JS Bach will have thought up some new wonderful melodies by then, who cares though when you got eternity!
J Freeman not funny brother. Bach is in Heaven I hope.
When I get to ground I will do nothing.
The architect of the classical style in full flow, and you can hear his influence on Beethoven - the pregnant pauses, the harmonic excursions and his willingness to just let the orchestra have a good old bop occasionally.
nerd
haydn is definitely one of the most fun composer to listen to
If you want fun - try Offenbach; Haydn is better described - where appropriate - as ingeniously playful.
Mr. Haitink seems a gentlemanly conductor. I do believe this is my favorite presentation of my favorite Haydn symphony.
A great symphony. Performed superbly!
Bernard Haitink was a genius. Thank you for the music maestro Bernard. I grew up with your wonderful interpretations of music that you made to sound astonishing. Thank you Maestro!
Such fun! Such perfect tempos and nuances! Such old-school timpani! One of the great performances.
A masterpiece with few equals. The capstone of the master Haydn`s symphonic output. It is a pity he is not known as well as Mozart, because he is the equal.
kappelmeister123
Haydn was also skilled at opera, and since many of them have been discovered, they are being performed widely. Haydn was also an outdoors man who was a crack shot.
shnimmuc ya, but Mozart themes are more fun to follow...
Anthony Walter
Mozart`s themes are usually built of 4 measure structures and are easier to follow. Haydn`s are irregular and and more sophisticated therefor more unpredictable. Both are very great composers.
Mozart is more a genius than Haydn, but it doesn't mean that he make a better music. It depends of the feeling
Eniotna Yssaneb
This makes no sense.
Wonderful performance. No 104 , the last of the 'London 12'. Composed, first performance & first audience was in London. Composed by FJ Haydn, father of the symphony & String Quartet.
This symphony is also FJ Haydn saying both a fond goodbye & thank you to London. Especially when you consider what they went on to compose after this. In that case 'The Creation'. The rest as they say is history.
Once again. Bravo, one and all.
Great comment - except for one thing: there is as much evidence for Haydn being ‘Father of the Symphony/String Quartet’ as there is for him being Father Christmas.
PS. The composer’s name is Joseph Haydn; the baptismal ‘Franz’ was *never* used in his own lifetime, and to do so today is as ridiculous as adding the following redundant baptismals to this well-known name - Johannes Chrysostomus Wolfgangus Theophilus Mozart.
Ye Gods, why is Haydn so delicious! Almost every few seconds, a twist, a surprise and a treat. To have taken a formal old fashioned minuet form and breathed new life into it ....how about that drum roll? The drones in the last movement? Every symphony he wrote seems to have something special, from sublime melody to laugh-out-loud jokes. A Shakespearean breadth of expression.
Franz Joseph Haydn,,,my favorite composer.
Joseph Haydn was a composer, his papa was a wheelwright, and I’m not sure he ever composed anything.
Favourite Minuet and Trio by far
Wonderful symphony. The last movement is very essence of zesty joy. You cant be blue after listening to it. So catchy. Da da daaa. Da da daaa. Da da daaa. Da da daaa dah!!
having to study this for AS level music, lovely piece :)
+bigmeatykezs bass AQA? Good luck on Monday haha! Also if you enjoy this look forward to doing Elgar's 1st at A2.
thanks! i think my sixth form does Shostakovitch for A2
+bigmeatykezs bass Good luck tomorrow haha I am also sitting this exam tomorrow
how'd you find it?
+bigmeatykezs bass Much nicer than last years As, that's for sure! Hope it went well for everyone else too.
I was crying when I heard this song that's how good it is
This is not a “song”. Have you read the title of the video?
This 'song' 😂
Wonderful classical symphony! Last time I heard this was in 2007, I was 15 years old and I still remember the main themes. =D
another 8 years on do you still remember any? :)
@@George._.M I remember that my grandma had a CD with this symphony in her apartment in Belo Horizonte and I used to listen to it among other classical music CDs while studying. So I had listened to it multiple times. Wow, this comment was already 8 years ago! 2007+8 = 2015... 2015+8 = 2023. 😲 And I still didn't forget 😅
If I travel to London , i will listen to this music ! ♡
Haydn at the proms! How rare is that? he has been largely ignored over the last few years. We have a new proms director now. Will it be any different? We shall see, but I'm not counting on it.
The Albert Hall is totally unsuitable for pre-Romantic music (with small orchestras) as it is much too large. I've heard Mozart and Haydn played there and the sound just gets lost. As they now also use Cadogan Hall for some chamber music performances, that would be a much better choice.
they’re playing this on tuesday at this years proms! i’m going to see it, very excited !!
Medicine for the soul. Thank you
hadyn the father and master of the symphony utter bliss
Well said.
Beautiful music. Every single note has the perfect harmony to bring us a piece of art.
Bardzo mi się podobało, czekam na kolejne filmy.
Love the 104 even more than any Mozart symphony and this performance is as good as it gets and a damn side better than most.
Mozart Jupiter?
No, Dumbo, a damn SIGHT better, not a damn "side" better! Idiot. Some people should be handed shovels, not pens.
@@JBrandeis1 Must you be so hurtful though?
Now and then.
@@JBrandeis1 I'm sure that was a spell-check caused error.
Вступление: 0:02
ГП: 2:15
ПП: 5:00
2 часть: 9:43
3 часть: 16:43
3 часть (трио): 18:38
4 часть ГП: 21:57
4 часть ПП: 23:09
А вот и нет. Пп 3:00 в ля мажоре, на материале Гп
creo que esta interpretación es insuperable , se unen una excelente orquesta con un gran director.
Master of masters.What a spirit.No Ludwig no Wolfi.Joseph he is the guy.
Fair enough, but he also admitted that Handel was "the master of us all."
No need to rank the great composers. Just enjoy what each one gave us and that we can listen to their divine music throughout our whole lives.
I remember this performance too, never thought over a million of you would watch it. It is possibly the most " sturm und drang " that he ever wrote because he was genuinely conflicted about leaving. He didn't like London especially but he had a great time whilst he was here. King George had asked him to stay offering a fair lump of Kensington Palace as lodgings. And at least 2 ladies that had catered for other needs. Perhaps his genius are the last two notes, which are goodbye, as you would say it..
The joy, of a decision remembered
The first movement is pure divine, where did you come from with this inspiration Mr. Haydn ... RESPECT !
the entire masterpiece in less than the time of a single Mahler movement.. theres something to be said for that.
Brevity is the Soul of Wit.
You’re quite right; the quality of music is not something that can be judged by measuring it or weighing it.
Not all Mahler movements are THAT long!
This symphony remind me life of high school generation. because I was playing this symphony on contrabass in extracurricular activities of music then.
I learned this symphony by playing the entire piano reduction. It is definitely my favorite by Papa Haydn.
Haydn though a good Catholic was never made Pope.
I’m currently studying this for A level music!! It’s a good piece!
u doing eduqas too?
@@groggroggrog Yes
Both composers offer so much!! Enjoy each for his own merits!!
what do you mean both?
I love this symphony
i have heard many versions of this and this is GOOD ,exactly the tempo i like ( weather thats right or wrong i don't care ) it suits me and obviously haitink bravo and as for encore i have viewed this several times and will view again
RIP Maestro 🙏
what a masterwork.full of life energic. epic
Qué hermosa interpretación de esta obra maestra del gran "papá Haydn"! Música maravillosa!
The second movement is one of his best ever. Used to play it on my garage piano.
2:15 starts the Allegro section. :)
Omg I played this last year in 7th grade BEST PIECE I LOVE ITT😭😭😭
Thanks for this upload. Perfect tempo, perfect playing, Bernard Haitink is one of the VERY few truly great conductors of our time.
Escuchar a estas sinfonías te transporta al paraíso
such an amazing piece. incredibly elegant harmony.
Wonderful Performance and such an Amazing Work! Thanks for posting!
The one and only Haydn. Great performance.
His brother Michael is good too...
Really loves how this one builds to the end climax 🐔
Ese momento en el que amas que tu tarea de musica sea escuchar sinfonías :3
I do like this performance, playing this piece with my youth orchestra, go bass section!!
Im just now getting into classical music since i decided i wanted to learn the violin, im here because part of this song is in my work book. Its interesting because i was never into classical before but there is a lot new for me so its very interesting
excelente música para escuchar, enriquece tu mente y relaja tu cuerpo
My daughter watched this for school and she loved it
The flutes and oboes at 7:30-
😍😍😍
Georgiixxalix08 No it's all about the oboes at 2:03 !!
Also in 2nd movement, 12:50 through 13:02, soaring harmony over the tutti orchestra ... Exquisite! Wish is was brought out stronger.
Many thanks for this superb upload
I love how beethovenian this 4th movement sounds :D
perfect music to listen to while writing an essay on music history ;D
Yes, because it certainly won't distract you much...
Lol all the coughing after the 1st mvt
the audience was polite and mesmerized enough to hold their breathes XD
I really was scared that they are gonna clap XD
COVID-19
Compositor,Director y Orquesta,todos del mismo gran nivel.Excelente interpretacio'n!.-
ich höre eigentlich metal aber davon bin ich auch sehr angetan. perfekt um den morgen zu starten oder den abend ausklingen zu lassen :)
I was there that evening. It was pretty good, the Strauss is even better.
Love the music
Wonderful sound!
Tough oboe part. Haydn often works the oboe hard, but lovely for us oboes to have good moments.
I don't know if also used Hoboes. Or ...
Thomas Curran this fact is why I love Haydn - man writes amazing oboe parts! All I have to do is sound good :) lol
Lovely
0:02 introduction
2:15 exposition
2:30 bridge
3:04 2nd theme
3:42 codetta
A level people where are you????
Music A Level*
Me but I have played this before. Violin 1 gang!
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Haydn really is fantastic!
9:20
Entire audience: Hey, there's some silence, lets all take a moment to cough
inhuman perfection. mindblowing!
Who came from music history
hey hello me
Me
Moi
Me
You know the answer.
0:01 вступление (Adagio) d-moll
1 часть(Allegro):
2:15 ГП D-dur (тоника)
2:47 СП
3:04 ПП A-dur (доминанта)
4 часть(Allegro spiritoso):
21:56 ГП (весёлая) D-dur
23:07 ПП (контрастная, лирическая) h-moll
*2:30** gave me the goosebumps*
The 4th movement is, IMO, the pinnacle of the "classical" period (i.e. pre- Beethoven 3rd) symphony. Not even Mozart in his later symphonies could surpass this.
Please?? Loool it's good but not that good!! For me mozart is the best composer of all time!! The man was 35 when he died!! Imagine him in his later years like beethovan was!! Mozart for me is the best but i like beethovan as well!! Mozart's 41st 4th movement is betters than this!! Stop hating
JACKSONVILLE1200
Who's hating bro? Certainly not me. I love the Mozart symphonies as well but I happen to think this symphony by Haydn is the best of it's kind - personal opinion just like yours!
+cameronpaul again personal opinion but I do think most people would disagree with it!
JACKSONVILLE1200
Yes I'm sure you're right.
+cameronpaul thank you
I know it's only symphony but I like it, like it, yes, I do!
shnimuc is surely correct about this work. Presumably he or she meant Mozart's equal in the evolution of the symphony (structure, form and influence on future composers?), as opposed to overall musical genius in other forms? Haydn gives us all hope - he was positively ancient by 18th century standards but like a miracle produced his finest works late on, proving his creativity was not deadened by time
This is the final symphony performed by the Northern Orchestra under the direction of Gordon Lucas. I was concertmaster until our health authority essentially shut us down with province-wide vaccine passports to perform or attend concerts. Now I get tears when I hear this piece.
So great for focusing on homework
I love the corpulent bassist. He is playing with gusto and glee......and he is sitting in the middle of the orchestra......that's so original........... some sort of metronome......when Haitink closes his eyes for a second or two it doesn't mean that he is dosing (you dud!), but he is part of the creative process.
Gracias,es muy bonita.
This is my first piece to practice for conducting lessons. xD
Waving and drowning ? Haha. Only joking.
This was my first too! :D
Same.....
Zeyar Shwe 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Same!
BBC proms :(((( I really hope they’re on in 2021
I feel as though this is the last classical symphony in a way. It premiered in 1795 (4 years after Mozart died), and Beethoven was right around the corner. It is a modest and charming swan song.
The first part of your comment is as insightful and perceptive as the last sentence is misguided and inaccurate.
Beethoven was a classicist as well, you could also argue Schubert was.
@@starrynight1657
Beethoven is not really something to be tagged on to the end of the Classical world of Mozart and Haydn, neither is he a Romantic composer as defined by Schumann, Chopin, Mendelssohn and Liszt.
My suggested way out of the problem is to label him *post-Classical,* along with composers like Cherubini, Rossini and Hummel for example who similarly do not fit comfortably into either Classical or Romantic.
28.55 best piece of music ever!
Of course, listening to this, I'm healed.
Sinfonía 104 "Londres", última obra musical en este género del genial Joseph Haydn. Pese a el movimiento romántico se ha impuesto en la fecha de composición, esta sinfonía esta aún sujeta a los esquemas del clasicismo en gran medida.
0:02 1st movement | 4:42 | 7:48 |
9:43 2nd movement | 16:53 3rd movement | 21:57 4th movement | 28:36 ending
It is mind blowing!!!
MUSC 363 is the best class I have ever taken. Enjoy my music peeps!!
28:55 best piece of music ever!!!
trollop
I love how to conductor is a beat earlier than the musicians it's hilarious but it also is driving me mad. Other than that, I love the tempo change at measure 17. Playing it at my middle school for UIL!
The slower the music, the further behind the beat an advanced musician will play. You don't have time to see and process the direction given by the conductor if you are playing right on top of them. Hope this helps! I study bass at university level :)
everything in-sync like whoa
First performed in London in May 1795.
I’ve been listening to Haydn all my life and never knew. I feel so ashamed
I didn’t come here for history, unlike some people I watch Jack Rakham...and like good music