Apple Vision Pro: The Honest Truth
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- The Apple Vision Pro is an impressive piece of gear, but There are still a lot of questions about it and someone has to ask them. @TechOdyssey
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Been waiting for this!!!
My problem with AVP is smaller FOV no video games no social apps and most apps are 2D on a 3D environment. Also working with a mac you only get one screen. Quest 3 you get so many. Multitasking is better on the Q3.
so mainly just a software update and 90% improvement?
It’s a new product for them.
150+ apps when announced. 600+ apps at Launch. I would expect 5000+ apps before the end of the year.
@@nickrobinson7096It'll probably never support any other computers than a Mac. So no cross compability.
@@moomin7461 Yeah Its Apple of course it won't... what's the point you're trying to make?
Outside of RUclips I haven’t found anyone that wants or is getting this product
Exactly
It’s too expensive. Even if you are a millionaire it makes no sense
as a person who likes watching sports, I was expecting it would be like being in the stadium immersive experience & not "just" watching a big floating screen with lots of stats on the sides.
Give it time. Believe me they are working on it. Too much money on the table.
I use Xreal Air AR Glasses with my Macbook Pro and it offers me 3 virtual spatial display monitors and I love it. I'll wait for the 5th iteration of the Vision Pro before I dive in.
Three 1080P displays yeh. There are limitations there also.
@@NeilLavitt you’re really going to argue that 3 1080p displays is a limitation in defense to having one display? Ok. Especially when one is $300 and the other is $3500. 😂
@@TechOdyssey not arguing, just that resolution is low for some tasks. I don’t like 1080p screens at all for anything other than office applications and casual browsing . I expect the Vision Pro will eventually support virtual Mac screens though I guess that depends on Apple deciding to allow it when they would rather have developers building their own apps.
@@NeilLavitt it should. It irks me that the Vision Pro has basically been advertised as being a multiple display device and then you come to find out when it launches they out only get one PC display. It's inevitable that it's updated and then it will be great, but it makes me raise an eyebrow the way it's been marketed so far
@@TechOdyssey yeh, agreed. We’ll see what Apple does with this. I expect they’ll loosen the rains once the app developers have started getting the apps out. iPad apps really aren’t going to cut it.
You guys are the best!!
Thank you!
Think of it as the iphone 1; and recognize there will be 15 new iterations to come. Heck the iphone 1 didn't even have cut and paste; or an app store. But it was the start of a new direction. Coming soon; lighter and thinner. (and cheaper)
For sure! In a way these are more professional tools, if you want to make apps or tools to use the apple vision in the future you need to get in early to be able to make a great product. These aren't really consumer products.
This might be the highest returned or canceled items
Probably
Vision Pro is interesting but I was a first gen iPad and Watch adopter. The following generations will probably be far better. Also I wear glasses and have a pretty strong prescription and Zeiss says it can’t make my prescription but I can wear my glasses with the Meta quest 2.
Having used the Apple Vision Pro for 24 hours I can end all of your conjecture. It’s truly an amazing device. Nothing else like it. Whether it’s worth it to you or not is a completely personal decision. People either are going to love it or hate it. This is truly a glimpse into the future from what I have experienced in the past day.
How can you see yourself using it over the long term? I have never had a VR/AR device that didn't start collecting dust after a few uses and the shine wore off.
your statement is conjecture, wait a month or two and then tells us how much you’re using it. We have 2 headsets at home that just collect dust due to no use cases
Have you used a Quest 2 or quest 3 that do most of what the VP does and more for 299-650?
Translation: "I've spent 4 grand on this thing, and I need to sell myself that I didnt just blow a bunch of money on a 1st gen device just to tap on iPad apps."
@@xandercruz900 seeing a bunch of honeymoon takes.
I couldn’t find any article where Apple state how many headsets will be available. Only thing I found is rumors
JTL great point about contextual AI responses. It will be invaluable for people that are coping with being on the autism spectrum etc..
The world doesn't need AR/VR headsets yet. Specially in this form factor. Maybe once they become 'googles' or more standard looking 'eyewear', the adoption rate and usage rate will boom.
Yet just like you they exist.
@@southwestkinema9149 Lots of things exist, lol, but he's saying they are not ready for mainstream adoption yet.
@@southwestkinema9149 The do nothing special when compared to a sub $500 headset aside from the Apple branding. The Microsoft Hololens in general seems like a more promising and useful device overall.
Have to take baby steps. Look @ first cell phone.
@@benyosep5640 It’s never going to replace the smartphone if that’s what you are suggesting. It will forever be a toy.
Let's face it, the iSheep will always defend what Apple does or doesn't do. Apple can sell you a lump of poop and call it pudding 💩
Marques did a great explanation.
Marques is part of the corrupted system "early access - biased/favorable review/impressions" that we are trying to avoid!
@@pattycookie2011only if you are an idiot. Marques doesn’t care about appeasing Apple.
@@pattycookie2011naw he’s apart of try a product tell me what you think about
He did a great job
@@pattycookie2011 nope. Thx for playing.
These micro oled panels are better than all 3 of my 85 inch OLED tv ‘s. Also I know guy the creator of virtual desktop. He is bringing his app to Apple store. Different between what Apple is doing and why Apple can only clone one screen is because it’s running full resolution. Virtual desktop is streaming crop view at low Rez
Using it would shut this entire conversation down
It's notable that this launched as the Vision _Pro,_ which implies an Apple Vision at some point in the future. In a year when they have a base of installed apps, it would make sense for them to launch the Apple Vision Pro 2 with an M3 chip and launch a $1500 Apple Vision base model which people will perceive as a value due to the Vision Pro anchoring the price at $3500 plus.
I think that the end goal is something much less cumbersome and the external battery decision speaks to that. Assuming that this device does what Apple devices have traditionally done, I bet the device five years from now will be a third the size and much lighter. The iPod was the first really successful MP3 player. The iPhone was the first really successful touchscreen phone. The iPad was the first successful tablet computer. All these devices had somewhat wonky first iterations. That's probably the most exciting thing about the Vision Pro. Apple sees the future better than any other company.
"It's notable that this launched as the Vision Pro, which implies an Apple Vision at some point in the future."
Or it's just a name that sounds more complete to say.
It has plastic lenses. A $4,000 headset, has plastic lenses. The $200 oculus go, has milled glass lenses. UNBELIEVABLE!
Jason thinking he’s “the voice of reason” is hilarious. He’s the same guy who fanboyed completely out over the Apple Airpods Max and then the Apple Studio Display.
Thank God he can’t afford the Vision Pro yet because we would be subjected to more of his blatant fanboyism.
Thanks!
Better to be the voice of reason than the voice of stupidity, funny guy.
@@TechOdysseyI understand that you want to defend your friend, but Jason was on some real bullshit when those products released. And he was very arrogant in the face of backlash.
Apple is a company that charges an exorbitant premium across *all* of their lifestyle brand products. I don’t want to hear people going out of their way to excuse Apple’s business practices just because they are a fan of their products.
@@SilverJoystix I just don’t get the justification for blasting someone who was excited about a product that didn’t pan out the way he wanted to. Yeah, Jason was excited about the AirPods Max. Lots of people were. And then they showed up I think a lot of people became quickly disenchanted with them seeing the flaws and holes for $500. I got rid of mine. But, that doesn’t negate that he’s taking a more reasonable approach to this product launch than in the past, and probably this was even influenced by what he believes or you believe was mistaken excitement with the AirPods Max. But blasting the dude for being reasonable and then further criticizing him saying he can’t afford it. You’re just being a dick, needlessly.
3500 for a m2 chip and 1 person experience
You can't afford it. Things are worth what people are willing to pay for them. It sold very well at launch. To people who can afford it. It is what it is.
Let's see the 3rd generation
By time the 3rd gen comes out I think it will be pretty darn amazing
damn I wish I had all this money to spend like u guys
What exactly did Apple tell you this was that you think it doesn’t have now?
I just don’t get how these guys can bash the highest Quality avatars we’ve ever seen in a commercial available device. No wonder people don’t innovate. They just get shit for it. I mean serious never has there been an avatar look so realistic
Apple pushed this more as AR headset and it’s actually a VR headset with simulated reality through cameras & screens (maybe the best VR headset but most of same limitations), 1st gen Vision Pro is a public beta (cash to blow) & developer device, waiting to see where this technology is in another 3-5yrs, also I think apple doing xreal type glasses wireless using iphone would have been a better more mass marketable product from apple than vision pro as our technology is not as good as it needs to be yet to fully accomplish what apple wants to accomplish with vision pro right now, 👍👍guys
It's OK guys I don't have an apple vision pro neither nor do I have a Samsung S 24. Reviews are not gonna sell the computer a solid developer community with a good soft that supports the Apple vision pro is what's going to sell this device. And unfortunately time we tell if the Apple vision pro is a success or not.
I think people that really want it will buy it and people that are skeptical won’t. I’m not really sure that people that are really into computing would be tricked into buying a beta product, hence not really sure it’s necessary to dump on it. We all know it’s not quite right yet. It could be a stepping stone to the better product. Many would say that Apple shouldn’t do that to their customers, but people will still want it anyway. For what it is, it still looks pretty fun albeit far from perfect.
anyway, my MacBook pro cost like $2500 so I'm not really understanding all this outrage of the price.
Truth is, you’d possibly get more secondhand overseas where it’s not available. Still understand.
The lack of ability to create virtual extended displays is a big lose in my opinion. Even the lowly spec type competition does that. It does not seem like you. An actually even create say a widescreen version.
If it was $200 people would be praising it.
Either one of these guys ever even heard of a Varjo XR3 or XR4. If they knew anything about either of these devices, they would realized what Apple has done with a standalone device! They are sitting comparing this to a f*cking Quest 3 with a mobile chip!! Also, the reason for the shortage of the devices is the custom 4k micro OLED panels it uses in the headset that no other headset has at the moment! They don’t know that either! PHT, do you know the Varjo XR3 is between 6k and 10k and you have to plug it into a computer? The XR4 will be cheaper because of the AVP and now they have to be competitive. If you want to be a real tech reviewer, this is what you compare the AVP to! It’s actually the headset that Apple based the AVP off of. You should be telling me that, not the other way around! Give me those 200k subs!
I had to stop watching your review within seconds of you stating that you haven’t tried it. Until you actually take the time to try it, you have no real idea.
It's not a review
What honest truth can 2 people discussing something they have never been within 10 feet of convey? What BS.
I genuinely don’t think you get this product. This will change everything. Not this year, but just watch.
What is a benefit of spending $4k on this?
I am so sick of people crying about the price. This is bleeding edge tech and if you can’t drop the money with no regret then please do not spend the money focus on your android. But don’t sling mud at a company pressing the boundary of computing and seeking to innovate and improve. As the scale increased the cost will fall but you need to pay to play for the time being.
Apple fans with the Hololens cost: LOLOLO! that thing costs too much! FAil M$!!!!!!!
Apple fans with the AVP cost: "I am so sick of people crying about the price. This is bleeding edge tech and if you can’t drop the money with no regret then please do not spend the money focus on your android"
Amazing how that works with you people. I'm sure you also are sick people complaining out the FOV too.
Ahhh, proof that Apple's marketing and psychological manipulation, to exploit the tribalism instinct, is strong! It's how they can get their victims to pay $4000 to become beta testers and strap this monstrosity to their heads for 3 months before it sits collecting dust!
How can you compare a Rokid that is 3Dof with 50° FOV and shity screens. I can’t believe let one review affect his whole outlook on something. These two are so old they have no clue what’s going on in vr. Like I just played assassins creed. RE4 , RE8, and GT7 in vr. Is that triple A enough for you. You come off so not informed on this stuff dude. Like zero clue about this section or the market. Just say you have no clue. And that’s ok. But listening to you guys fumble through stuff you don’t know is tuff. He’s talking about a rift s from 5 years ago. Comparing to micro OLed in 1.4 inch panels these things have 5000 nitts of brightness. Built on wafers not mother glass. There is no comparison. These panels didn’t even exist a year ago
Intellectually honest ? You sure ?
I run Linux, so anything other than the iPhone/ipad is not relevant to my needs.
I dont know a single person that gives AF about this product
Now you do 😊
@@bryanhalpinyour life must be miserable going throughout your day lacking the basic capacity to understand simple conversations.
I agree, from what I have learned about it is that it’s a complete privacy issue.
1991: Why do you need a cell phone? I can put a phone in every room and there are phone booths everywhere for a dime a call.
How many people under 20 do you know? This product, in a few years, will be glasses. With features that allow the kids who are now on phones, to have real time AR/VR projection at all times. I am 48, I may never need this, but it is going to change everything,, I am sure of it.
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Excellent video guys, i couldn't agree with you more when it comes to this RIDICULOUSLY over priced piece of tech, and its not like VR head sets are anything new, but yet all these Apple fans are acting as though this is some kind of brand new technology that man kind has never seen before. 🙄😶
So for a family with two kids would spend sixteen thousand dollars to see a movie together… mmmm
The headset is not heavy. It’s the straps both fucking suck!!!!!!! Ppl wear way heavier things like motorcycle helmets and stuff. If it had an elite strap on quest 3. You could wear it for days. They really fucked up trying to be different and making one strapc
$860,000,000 made in 1 week smfh
I can tell you from someone who has 10 vr headset. This is the best vr headset money can buy with the best pass through on any headset. Even better than the vario $10,000 headsets. lol go try it. You kinda sound dumb talking about frinding on the end of lenses. Go try it dude. Your latching on to a kinda bad review by verge who is not a vr review and has no clue what this is.
The honest truth, is you guys do not have one. So to give an honest assessment is not possible based off of other peoples videos.
Oh, and by the way, I happen to have one. Delivered February 2. It is the most amazing product that I have ever used and exceeds my expectations. I can just imagine what future versions will be.
I think as long as they keep it out of the hands of gamers and weirdos in VRchat and Vtubing stuff, it will have legs. It needs to be handed to adults.
The fact that people don't realize how dangerous this new device is, is alarming. Its already bad enough that the government knows what we are doing, this will just give them MORE information now. When will it be enough? Now they will see EVERYTHING we ALL DO!. Even if you don't have these glasses. If someone else has them, they will see everything.
You can take off the tin foil hat
lol. wait and see. I've been right with everything thus far. But people will memory hold it. Just like "covid". Keep being a sheep. Go back to sleep!
@@TechOdyssey 🐑🐑🐑🐑
@@TechOdysseyKeep burying your head in the sand.
I’ve been thinking about this for a while I have every Apple product iPhone 15 Pro Max one terabyte. I had the iPhone 13 Pro Max and the iPhone 11 Pro Max or the iPhone X. One thing that makes me feel like I’m kind of going insane was I keep on buying the same phone but basically the same features and I’m starting to lose my mind. Apple feels like a microwave. It works. It’s boring, and if I only have one life to live, I’d rather live it on an ecosystem that pushing the feature boundary like Samsung just feels to me that only Google and Samsung are trying to really move the ball forward and I feel like I’m in a boring marriage passion has died. I didn’t want to leave. I feel like Apple left me. Literally the only thing I’m gonna miss about Apple ecosystem is my Apple Watch which I love but besides that I’m wondering if I’ve been abducted by a cult 😂@apple @samsung
Yes, you have.
Been waiting for this!