Always amazed at your ability to deliver all of this information with minimal cuts and editing. The bars and cool and all, but damn, your memory is impeccable.
I appreciate that you said it wouldn’t make sense to sell your current one just to upgrade for something similar-that’s exactly what I would have to do. Thank you so much.
Definitely a noticeable difference on the drop test, and I agree on the aesthetic improvement on the sleeves. I think I’ll stick with my bare steel ribbed OPB for now though - I know there’s got to be an innuendo in there somewhere
So my "new" OPB i bought a few months ago is already retro??? lol, Ain't nothing wrong with a little clanging and banging but I like the idea of less aggressive ribbing on the collars, was never a fan of it making that scrapping sound when loading plates but some of that depends on the type of plates you have.
I’m not sure when they instituted the changes. The 20kg was more recent from what I can tell but they didn’t really announce any of the changes so hard to say.
Thanks for covering this, I would have never known about these changes. I'm particularly interested in the changes to the ribbing of the sleeves. When I bought the 45lb OPB for my home gym setup, I was surprised at how the ribbing on the sleeves made such a loud noise when loading/unloading plates, compared to the ones in the commercial gym. Not sure if the noise is due to the large ribbing or because I am using machined iron plates that don't have the steel hubs. Which do you think makes a bigger difference in terms of minimizing sound of loading plates: ribbed sleeves or plates with steel hub?
yes the plate can make a big difference as well, how tight the tolerance of the center hub is, the material it's made of, if it's tapered or not, etc...
I think the original stainless steel OPB had F-Rating F2. The new one is F10-R. So looks like some shaft hardening has been going on too... Thanks for the heads up.
A second Ohio Power Bar allows me to super set better if I want to keep one in the rack and the other near my deadlift platform. I have been looking to get a second Power Bar for better efficiency of my time in the gym.
While we are discussing Rogue products, many of us basement and garage gym owners with limited space would greatly appreciate a review of the plate loaded single stack Rogue FM-HR (the half rack functional trainer). This is the cheapest variation with the smallest footprint so it will likely be Rogue’s best seller. I want to purchase one but cannot seem to find answers to two questions: (1) can the FM-HR be converted to a full size power rack later when I have more space; and (2) will the drop-in Rhino work on the plate loaded FM-HR or do I have to purchase the full size rack? The main reason I am leaning towards the plate loaded version is to ensure the drop in Rhino can be added later but I need to know if it will work on the half rack or if the full rack is required. Thanks for all the work you put into this channel. It plays a big factor in my gym equipment purchasing decisions.
I bought OPB last month in stainless/chrome. But got the 45lb version. I’m too new to lifting to know any difference…just trying to keep up with the cool kids.
Thanks Brandon, gotta say I came up with smooth sleeves and continue to prefer them. Did old school bars back in the 60ies, 70ies, 80ies & 90ies have ribbing? I started lifting in the 00ies
So if you could only keep one, would it be the new Ohio power bar, or the American barbell chewy? Which one do you reach for more now that you have both?
Agree with you Brandon - rattling isn’t great. All our new barbells released a year ago have tighter tolerances and smoother sleeves. On top of nice end caps and laser etching on the insides of the sleeves. We took our time to make some of the best barbells in the world.
I wonder what the new bar sounds like compared to the 2.0S Ohio bar that was marketed as being quiet - I almost wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve just included that design into other bars now across the board.
I spent about two years deciding this. Ended up with the OPB SS/SS this summer with the upgrades. I couldn’t ask for anything else. It’s sublime. The price difference in Canada was too large to ignore and the Gluck gym video describing the knurl as less aggressive were the killers. Also some reviews, whether true or not, of some people getting a bent chewy weighed on my mind. I can confirm no rattle in mine and silent deadlifts. Considered the dbl bd from rep also. Also, 29 mm tpb.
That’s awesome! Thank you! I think I’ll go with the Opb since I also want the new kabuki transformer. I’d use the OPB for bench, kabuki for squat, and I actually use a kabuki trap for deadlifts but would also swap in the OPB or just use my current OB since that’s a good transition to overhead lifts and with crash cushions and urethane plates if the collars are tight it’s a nice setup
Tough choice. My AB Chewy is prob my best built bar I own, but you have to decide if you want to pay a few hundred more for it. The sleeves are also really nice on the AB as they do chrome a lot better than Rogue does.
@@BasementBrandon I was wondering about the chrome. I have the AB Grizzly Power Bar, which is their "economy" bar, though it is more expensive than Rogue. But the chrome is really well done. I see people dissing chrome and I don't get it, it works really well, IMO.
@@richardmather1906 I'm can't say with certainty, but from what some have told me they claim Rogue's chrome is decorative, which is not as good as hard chrome.
I still think the Chewy is the best built bar I own. However you can get a similar experience for less and even more so if you want to venture into imports.
Just got the new version in. Shipped to the west coast and showed up in perfect condition. This new version is a beaut. The included QC sheet is a welcome addition as well.
These are literally things I never think about and couldn't care less about. Not a knock on your vid; love your content. But I always have tunes blasting in my home gym so I really DNGAF about a bit noise from my bars. I have cast iron plates. If I cared about noise I'd invest in bumper plates before a 'quiet' bar. But I won't. Old sk00l.
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Always amazed at your ability to deliver all of this information with minimal cuts and editing. The bars and cool and all, but damn, your memory is impeccable.
I forget a lot but I'm too impatient to do a bunch of cuts or editing 😅
The sound was way more noticeable than I expected. Well done Rogue!
Agreed!
Honestly...the sounds of the gym...clanging...banging...zinging(Ribbed sleeves) etc...I never gave a second thought to at all...
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Same.
@@wayne5741 yeah for public gyms not a big deal since fans and ambient noise is higher but for home gyms would be nice
Hello Rogue Fitness! Welcome to the 21st-century. We have been waiting patiently. It’s good to have you.
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I actually come to Basement Brandon primarily for the developments in drop acoustics. Keep up the science!
Holding out for that Nobel Peace Prize
I appreciate that you said it wouldn’t make sense to sell your current one just to upgrade for something similar-that’s exactly what I would have to do. Thank you so much.
Yeah you’d prob end up taking at least $100-$200 hit 😢
Thank you for telling me I don’t need to upgrade. I’m going broke with all these bars. 🤣
Haha not my fault!
lol I love the sleeve grooves!!! Collars grip way better!
I like it for bench for sure
I love to see Rogue improve their processes. We benefit in the end
agreed!
Great quick video!
After having the original SS OPB and now a Hybrid bar….2x knurling is fantastic and I can’t go back.
the 2x is def nice!
Definitely a noticeable difference on the drop test, and I agree on the aesthetic improvement on the sleeves. I think I’ll stick with my bare steel ribbed OPB for now though - I know there’s got to be an innuendo in there somewhere
Still a great bar!
I don't intentionally drop any of my bars,makes no difference to me, a well done video as usual, thanks Basement Brandon.
Thanks for taking a look
I like hearing, 😂 so its nice that they are moving in this direction.
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Love my SS OPB. It’s awesome. Can’t lash out that amount of money to upgrade as you said.
Also. Legend has it that Eleiko bar is still rattling..
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Sounds like a fair amount of improvement in build quality
Most def!
Hi Brandon, I see what you did there with the description!!
I figure most don't read it 😅
So my "new" OPB i bought a few months ago is already retro??? lol, Ain't nothing wrong with a little clanging and banging but I like the idea of less aggressive ribbing on the collars, was never a fan of it making that scrapping sound when loading plates but some of that depends on the type of plates you have.
I’m not sure when they instituted the changes. The 20kg was more recent from what I can tell but they didn’t really announce any of the changes so hard to say.
My American Barbell Mammoth power bar is also extraordinarily quiet compared to my others. Would be a cool comparison to the silent rogue
AB make some of the best built bars. I traded in my mammoth for a chewy however as I wanted some better knurl.
Thanks Brandon. Do you know if the Aggro bars got these same updates?
I haven't seen any in the wild, but the site page does indicate the update.
Great single take vid per the usual!
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What's the difference between chrome sleeves and stainless steel ones? Is it worth the money?
I don't think SS sleeves make much sense these days. They add to the cost and don't really do much.
@@BasementBrandon thanks Brandon! Just found your channel and I'm bingeing everything. Stay BIG
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Thanks for covering this, I would have never known about these changes. I'm particularly interested in the changes to the ribbing of the sleeves. When I bought the 45lb OPB for my home gym setup, I was surprised at how the ribbing on the sleeves made such a loud noise when loading/unloading plates, compared to the ones in the commercial gym. Not sure if the noise is due to the large ribbing or because I am using machined iron plates that don't have the steel hubs. Which do you think makes a bigger difference in terms of minimizing sound of loading plates: ribbed sleeves or plates with steel hub?
yes the plate can make a big difference as well, how tight the tolerance of the center hub is, the material it's made of, if it's tapered or not, etc...
I think the original stainless steel OPB had F-Rating F2. The new one is F10-R. So looks like some shaft hardening has been going on too... Thanks for the heads up.
Nice to see them try to make a good bar even better!
A second Ohio Power Bar allows me to super set better if I want to keep one in the rack and the other near my deadlift platform. I have been looking to get a second Power Bar for better efficiency of my time in the gym.
Lot of good options these days
While we are discussing Rogue products, many of us basement and garage gym owners with limited space would greatly appreciate a review of the plate loaded single stack Rogue FM-HR (the half rack functional trainer). This is the cheapest variation with the smallest footprint so it will likely be Rogue’s best seller. I want to purchase one but cannot seem to find answers to two questions: (1) can the FM-HR be converted to a full size power rack later when I have more space; and (2) will the drop-in Rhino work on the plate loaded FM-HR or do I have to purchase the full size rack? The main reason I am leaning towards the plate loaded version is to ensure the drop in Rhino can be added later but I need to know if it will work on the half rack or if the full rack is required. Thanks for all the work you put into this channel. It plays a big factor in my gym equipment purchasing decisions.
I would love to get one but I'm actually moving on from my Rogue rack. I'm fairly certain Gluck and Coop will both be doing videos on it however!
Let me guess…Sorinex rack on the way?
@@BasementBrandonwhat are you getting ?
@@gunsmokezz I'm going with one from Irwin Fitness. Going to be 47" wide and 96" tall as well as some other storage upgrades.
I bought OPB last month in stainless/chrome. But got the 45lb version. I’m too new to lifting to know any difference…just trying to keep up with the cool kids.
It's like phones now. As soon as you get one, a better one comes out.
Thanks Brandon, gotta say I came up with smooth sleeves and continue to prefer them.
Did old school bars back in the 60ies, 70ies, 80ies & 90ies have ribbing? I started lifting in the 00ies
I think like most things, it varied!
i don't think they did. i don't remember seeing them at all until the 2000s, but I was out of the country for much of the 90s so I could be wrong.
I wonder if this is why they blew out a bunch of opb for $150 in the boneyard a few months ago.
Could be. Don’t recall them announcing they made the change.
So if you could only keep one, would it be the new Ohio power bar, or the American barbell chewy? Which one do you reach for more now that you have both?
Really depends on context. Best all around bar I own is the AB Chewy, but since I compete in powerlifting I use a lot of IPF style bars.
@@BasementBrandon Fair. Is your chewy one of the few A grade bars, or did you get a shadow knurl blemish and still love it?
@@joeschmidhofer2674 I had 2. I had a retail version (20V) and a shadow mountain "blem" (20M). I kept the the blem version b/c it's more aggressive.
Is the chewy still your favorite?
I think the Chewy is the best built bar from top to bottom I own, but I still use the Hansu SS the most of all my bars.
Agree with you Brandon - rattling isn’t great. All our new barbells released a year ago have tighter tolerances and smoother sleeves. On top of nice end caps and laser etching on the insides of the sleeves. We took our time to make some of the best barbells in the world.
all three of my collars dont fit on my Rep SSB. Is this standard?
The end caps also have 0 lash, unlike Kabuki bars where the metal end caps rattle.
Flex
Will have to grab another one!
Are the rusting issues fixed with your stainless offerings though? The old stuff was notorious for rusting
Do you think they updated the AGGRO versions as well? Interested in the aggro2 variant as I already have a few OPBs
Not yet. You can see which bars are updated on their site
@@ExpeditionaryRanger appreciate that insight
The site page seems to allude to them doing so already.
I wonder what the new bar sounds like compared to the 2.0S Ohio bar that was marketed as being quiet - I almost wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve just included that design into other bars now across the board.
Yeah if you look at the Ohio bars now, there isn't a S option anymore as I believe they're standard.
@@BasementBrandon oh well that would explain it!
The voices in my head would surely appreciate a quieter lifting environment
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nice Barbell
Thanks for taking a look!
Price aside. This in full SS with SS sleeves or chewy AB Pb? I’m leaning towards this for the full SS
I spent about two years deciding this. Ended up with the OPB SS/SS this summer with the upgrades. I couldn’t ask for anything else. It’s sublime. The price difference in Canada was too large to ignore and the Gluck gym video describing the knurl as less aggressive were the killers. Also some reviews, whether true or not, of some people getting a bent chewy weighed on my mind. I can confirm no rattle in mine and silent deadlifts. Considered the dbl bd from rep also. Also, 29 mm tpb.
That’s awesome! Thank you! I think I’ll go with the Opb since I also want the new kabuki transformer. I’d use the OPB for bench, kabuki for squat, and I actually use a kabuki trap for deadlifts but would also swap in the OPB or just use my current OB since that’s a good transition to overhead lifts and with crash cushions and urethane plates if the collars are tight it’s a nice setup
Tough choice. My AB Chewy is prob my best built bar I own, but you have to decide if you want to pay a few hundred more for it. The sleeves are also really nice on the AB as they do chrome a lot better than Rogue does.
@@BasementBrandon I was wondering about the chrome. I have the AB Grizzly Power Bar, which is their "economy" bar, though it is more expensive than Rogue. But the chrome is really well done. I see people dissing chrome and I don't get it, it works really well, IMO.
@@richardmather1906 I'm can't say with certainty, but from what some have told me they claim Rogue's chrome is decorative, which is not as good as hard chrome.
Is the chewy bar worth the premium now?
I still think the Chewy is the best built bar I own. However you can get a similar experience for less and even more so if you want to venture into imports.
What I took from this video was that we use the same Apple Watch face and that makes me happy
Best one!
I had bad luck 3 times in a row with the original 20kg. Might give this new version a try.
What were the issues?
@@BasementBrandon seized sleeves and chipping chrome that would end up buried in your hands when changing plates
Just got the new version in. Shipped to the west coast and showed up in perfect condition. This new version is a beaut. The included QC sheet is a welcome addition as well.
@@dudeburgers Glad to hear!
Still no bluetooth?
Could do something like Eleiko and add a VBT tracker to the sleeve.
I'll just sell by current OPB to Jack Brimhall. He seems to be buying ALL the bars at the moment😉
He is currently collecting all the Kabuki lol
I liked the clang and bang mentality but those ribbed sleeves always irk me
We got a smooth sleeve guy over here!
God damn it, I just bought a stainless steel bar from them with the black sleeves lmao.
It may be part of this update.
Small improvements to an already great bar
agreed!
Let’s see some walk outs on squats please
Soon!
So it’s tighter and quieter with less ribbing … interesting 🤔
Usually you get louder with more ribbing...
These are literally things I never think about and couldn't care less about. Not a knock on your vid; love your content. But I always have tunes blasting in my home gym so I really DNGAF about a bit noise from my bars. I have cast iron plates. If I cared about noise I'd invest in bumper plates before a 'quiet' bar. But I won't. Old sk00l.
I def see your point, I think a better build quality may also lead to better wear and tear over the years, but we will see!
what happens if you drop it on your foot
Makes the same noise.
I'd like to get it only because I am a hoarder of bars (among other things) lol
Haha I feel this
Science
anotha one!
That drop test was beautiful.
The old bar: that familiar rattle I don't like.
The new bar: ahh less noise, beautiful.
I love improvements and
Appreciate you taking a listen
Ribbed for his pleasure. 😂
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Headphones are on 99 percent of the time, so its non factor for me.
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