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  • Опубликовано: 2 фев 2025

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  • @BasementBrandon
    @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +44

    I just want to say 30 min one take ain’t too shabby. 😅

    • @GlucksGym
      @GlucksGym Месяц назад +5

      goals

    • @mwpig5
      @mwpig5 Месяц назад +1

      That’s more impressive than the content itself.

    • @donpalmero
      @donpalmero Месяц назад

      All in a Dutch angle to boot

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker Месяц назад

      Legend

    • @GrayMatterLifting
      @GrayMatterLifting Месяц назад +1

      No freaking way. I can't get through " hey everyone it's Joe gray" in one take

  • @NoFate247
    @NoFate247 Месяц назад +16

    That trolley system with the Smith machine seems like a no fly zone to me. The pattern is full

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +3

      I get that it’s a trade off for integrating the stack but just seems like a poor trade off to me.

    • @GRPABT1
      @GRPABT1 17 дней назад

      It looks like they've made no actual improvement over the original Inspire FT2 which I have. I have fabricated custom J cup style locks to lockout the bar at the top but the first rep of the first set and the very last rep still have to start from the bottom. This improved the use immensely and it's embarrassing that I can achieve this and they haven't bothered yet. Centr are just a money making venture.

    • @WiecznieNieNasycony
      @WiecznieNieNasycony 22 часа назад

      hey you

  • @JakeGuy-z9n
    @JakeGuy-z9n Месяц назад +2

    I subbed when I started lifting in high school 10 years ago and even though I’ll never have a home gym I still watch these😂. You’re like grandfathered into my life for some reason because I’ve been keeping up with your basement Chronicles for over a decade for no reason lmao

  • @tonysanchez1000
    @tonysanchez1000 Месяц назад +16

    Love the xhamster plates.

  • @GrayMatterLifting
    @GrayMatterLifting Месяц назад +1

    Appreciate the shout outs. Frustrating that this appears to be essentially the FT2 with some aesthetic changes at a higher price point.
    The FT2 is awesome with just a few small tweaks needed. And the Pro could have been that. Darn. Good video dude.

  • @DaveStolzenberg
    @DaveStolzenberg Месяц назад +3

    I have had this for about a month and am very happy with it. I agree with your review overall, just a few comments:
    - You can upgrade the weight stacks by 50 pounds each.
    - You don’t have to slide out from under the bench press bar on Smith. From the bottom position, you rotate the bar into hooks and it lifts up easily with no weight on it.
    - pull up bar can be raised higher to 89 inch position
    - the belt squat strap is also useful to attach to the overhead pulleys for weight assist on them. Put them under my feet.
    - agreed, I’m surprised they did not change that mechanism with the Smith bar from the first generation to be able to more naturally un-rack at top of the movement with safeties at bottom. It doesn’t bother me starting at the bottom of the movement on bench press and military press, bent rows, but I don’t love it on squat.
    - to compensate, with bar at top of squat, I over-rotate it forward into hooks to lower it, and then engage the weight while quickly accelerating the squat up from bottom position while rotating the bar/wrist into neutral position at same time to release it and set the safeties in one fluid motion. Ie not really much pause at bottom. Therefore, not a deal breaker for me but totally understand how it can be for some who go heavy on squats. I do really like using the smith bar as a leg press laying flat on my back on the bench though.
    -overall, for the amount of variety it gives me in a compact space, very solid feel, the trade-off for sub optimal Smith bar with squats is worth it.

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +2

      Appreciate the feedback. Some very good points.
      -For the added 50lbs stacks I assumed so, but they need to get their stuff together b/c you'd think they'd list that on the product page (they don't).
      -I kind of covered this in the video, but that's very annoying IMO and not how a true smith machine works.
      -I knew this as well but again it's not detailed in the manual (at least the one I have) and it doesn't just raise it up, it pivots it up and puts them at a poor angle IMO.
      -Good tip, don't need the assistance so I didn't think of that.
      Overall for me it just doesn't do it justice calling it a smith machine. It's king of like my issue with the monolift attachments not acting like a monolift.

    • @DaveStolzenberg
      @DaveStolzenberg Месяц назад

      @@BasementBrandon Don’t disagree with you. At the end of the day, if you are going to get this unit, I think you just need to be comfortable that you’re going to start your Smith movements from the bottom of the lift on the first rep.

  • @BrandonSchwartz1
    @BrandonSchwartz1 Месяц назад +3

    Glad to see a non-demo video review of this but given how quickly Inspire iterates on products, you can expect a V2 in about 7-10 years.
    Inspire, Hoist, TuffStuff(RIP), and Bodycraft are all kind of in that old school dealer model and rarely do quick updates the way the new home gym players do.
    Hoping Centr has plans to change that but not holding my breath.

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +1

      Agreed. Seems a lot of my complaints aren’t new.

    • @GRPABT1
      @GRPABT1 17 дней назад

      Centr are just a money making venture. Don't expect anything from them. AFAIK Hemsworth sold the company and he had basically zero input in making the app anyway.

  • @timk8258
    @timk8258 Месяц назад +1

    Great job explaining how it works and what the limitations are.

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад

      Thanks. Take it with a grain of salt based off my preferred training style!

  • @lanamarie983
    @lanamarie983 14 дней назад

    Got one at Christmas. Love mine

  • @speedbumpmedia9584
    @speedbumpmedia9584 Месяц назад +1

    I’ve had the Inspire (now Centr) SF3 functional trainer/smith machine for 2yrs now and love it. Same type of 1:1 conversion via the lower cables and I find that pulling the pins so it’s on minimum weight makes it fast and easy to pop them off the hook. Mine has been totally reliable with minimal maintenance. You can also snag them at times VIA Costco for a steal. My only complaint is that the SF3 is too short for some movements. Hands down a massive improvement for the home gym.

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад

      I think that’s prob a better bet for most people.

    • @speedbumpmedia9584
      @speedbumpmedia9584 Месяц назад +1

      @ The SF3 is a more reasonable option both in size, capability, and cost. Costco has had them recently for 2k and even $1700. I think if you are really looking for a legit Smith you’d really like the BOS option. Heck, Kaevon would probably send you one to review. He sent one to Gluck and you know how much of a hack he is 😉😆.

    • @speedbumpmedia9584
      @speedbumpmedia9584 9 дней назад

      I know you aren’t keen on the squat aspect of this but have you tried using the safeties via the described method in Inspire’s vid? 3 min mark. ruclips.net/video/nKP4-Bl-FSA/видео.htmlsi=Byk1Tceuvxnqgu17

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  7 дней назад

      @@speedbumpmedia9584 I'm not sure where your comment went, but I demo what you're talking about at the 20:00 min mark.

    • @speedbumpmedia9584
      @speedbumpmedia9584 7 дней назад

      @ Ope! Short attention span. 🤣

  • @twistedbarbell3950
    @twistedbarbell3950 Месяц назад

    Legendary one take, especially at that length! I'm not personally a fan of smith machines, but it seems well thought out as a functional trainer. As you pointed out however, it could use some improvement in the smith machine area. That is one of the challenges of combining multiple functions on a single machine - there are going to be compromises.

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +1

      I did it for the wife, but unfortunately it’s one of those things that tries to be a smith machine but at the end of the day, is slightly off.

  • @GlucksGym
    @GlucksGym Месяц назад +8

    Chris Hemsworth has a RUclips channel now?!

  • @zorob5
    @zorob5 Месяц назад +1

    This is badass, time to save!

  • @LukesGarageGym
    @LukesGarageGym Месяц назад +2

    definitely awkward to get out! Feels like Im going to smack my head on the bar after benching lol

  • @MonsterChuck
    @MonsterChuck Месяц назад +3

    Just ordered a Rogue FM6 to be an all-in-one unit. Are you considering reviewing one?

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +3

      Not likely. If Centr didn’t send this out for my feedback I likely wouldn’t have bought one as I don’t have a need based off my current set up.

  • @SauleWright
    @SauleWright 27 дней назад

    I have the FT2 so when I saw this I was excited, thinking maybe they fixed the damn Smith Machine. They seemingly made the same damn machine, but added the rock grips and additional storage. It has the same shortcomings of the FT2 in pretty much the same identical ways. Disappointed in them. I appreciate you sharing your review for sure.

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  27 дней назад +1

      That's a gripe of mine as well. It seems a lot of people provided that feedback about the Smith on the FT2 and they didn't do anything to change it :(

    • @tagn8088
      @tagn8088 26 дней назад

      I got the FT2 as well. I think the belt squat thing would be good, but other than that, it’s pretty much the same.

  • @AnonymousHippo5
    @AnonymousHippo5 Месяц назад +3

    The pull up bar can be adjusted to a taller position. It looks like you have it set at the lowest position in this video.
    Also, the weight stacks can be upgraded with an additional 50 lbs. on each side. Not sure if this was talked about.
    Grabbing both of trollies with the bar and moving them to the bottom range of motion/starting position, is a better way to start each set.

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +1

      Yes it can but it’s awkward in my opinion. It’s a bolt design so it’s not easily adjustable and instead of just going up straight, it just pivots, which makes the grips feel out of place.

  • @raps7027
    @raps7027 Месяц назад

    I was looking for a Smith Machine type attachment for my Power Rack, and researched all the reviews from Bells of Steel's new attachment, Bullet Proof's VTS, and some other gimmicky brands and I just was not sold on any of them really. Yes, they are ok if you just want something somewhat versatile, but I wanted something more reliable, so I purchased a stand alone Smith Machine from Gymleco (281 with counterbalance). Yes, it's expensive, and yes I have to wait 6 months for shipping from Canada (3 months now) also I had to pay shipping costs as well. Your review was very good, I sure hope you don't hit your head on that bar ducking underneath it all the time, and yes they absolutely have room for improvement with the Smith Machine attachment, but seems like you will enjoy your functional trainer.

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад

      The Bells one looked pretty promising to me based off Gluck's video.

  • @TheKurtlocker
    @TheKurtlocker Месяц назад

    When going on the brandon version of 2:1 to 1:1, what is the ROM capability?

  • @petesustaitaable
    @petesustaitaable Месяц назад

    Totally agree the smith machine starting at the bottom sucks. The SCS version is better about this but then you have free weights. This mostly bothers me with squats but bench press is fine using your “trick”. I just twist it forward to move it up and out of my way after a set, then drop it back down when starting another set.

    • @Frennemydistinction
      @Frennemydistinction Месяц назад

      That feature should be a deal breaker for anyone considering this imo. I use an Inspire FT2 and my sub's clubhouse gym.

    • @petesustaitaable
      @petesustaitaable Месяц назад

      @Frennemydistinction eh it’s a trade off I’m willing to make to have a compact, full body gym basically. It’s not ideal but you learn to work with it. I do squats on it 2x a week with no issues

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +2

      Yeah I know some will say it’s a non issue. Personally if I wanted a smith machine though I’d want it to function properly as one.

  • @TheGhu123
    @TheGhu123 Месяц назад +1

    looks really nice and about the same price as 2 voltra1. So which do you prefer teh voltra or the Center pro? Also how are those Xmaster plates holding up. Does finish hold up well with use?

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +2

      If I had to get rid of one it would be the FT2 pro. For my use the Voltras does the same things as the FT2 but also has a lot more features I’d utilize (settings/metrics/footprint).

  • @GRPABT1
    @GRPABT1 17 дней назад +1

    I have fabricated a hack for the smith machine on my Inspire FT2 to lock it at the top (on all but the first rep). The same hack should work for this version too as its basically identical in operation. If anyone is interested let me know and I can send you some pictures if you're handy ar fabricating.

  • @fwiffo42
    @fwiffo42 Месяц назад +1

    Nice review! Some of the functionality is neat, like with the lower pulleys, but overall this looks to be missing the mark in too many areas.

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +2

      Yeah I agree. Not worth the sacrifice of functionality to me!

  • @thecreativekidmin
    @thecreativekidmin Месяц назад

    I think I prefer my cheap Syedee smith machine for $500. I think when I upgrade I’ll look for a true rack with all components. The new bells of steel smith add on looks interesting to add to a Rep Ares system.

  • @nickc3365
    @nickc3365 Месяц назад

    Wouldnt the voltra attached to a rack replace so many of these exercises with even more options? Obviously not the smith machine but alot of the exercises are just doubles of machines you already have such as pullups and low rows. Im thinking of splurging on the dual voltras in the future to have the functional trainer exercises.

    • @BrandonSchwartz1
      @BrandonSchwartz1 Месяц назад +1

      I think the free swiveling pulleys are going to be the tricky part to replicate since the Voltra doesn’t move like that even with the rotator adapters. Voltra probably better for pure pressing/pulling movements vs fly patterns where you have a lot of side to side movement. Maybe someone with two can chime in

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +1

      Yea if I had to pick between the two I’d go Voltra personally.

    • @nickc3365
      @nickc3365 Месяц назад

      @@BrandonSchwartz1 they do have a rotating mount. Wondering if that would make it comparable. I'm really trying to justify the crazy price of 2 units and all the mounts.

    • @nickc3365
      @nickc3365 Месяц назад

      @@BasementBrandon would really like to see an in depth review from you with dual units testing all the exercise and utility options. I'm trying to justify 2 units and mounts. It seems like a really good option for things like flies, rear flies, presses, raises, curls, extensions, better pull-downs and rows because of the resistance curves and loads more options that would require dedicated machines but as we all know capable doesn't mean practical and this price is crazy high. I'm in Canada as well so add 35% to the price.

    • @BrandonSchwartz1
      @BrandonSchwartz1 Месяц назад

      @@nickc3365 need more people to review dual units. I feel you though, it’s super expensive to gamble on two at the current price and the mounts add up quickly

  • @rrrGeist
    @rrrGeist Месяц назад

    Hello Brandon, how many bars do you use on daily basis? Let's say in 1 training cycle. Is it one per bar type? Like 1 powerbar and 1 deadlift bar or you like to switch different brands for fun or whatever reason?

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +1

      I predominantly use ipf style power bars in training due to that’s what I compete with. I rarely use my DL or squat bars now outside my SSB!

    • @rrrGeist
      @rrrGeist Месяц назад

      @BasementBrandon thanks!

  • @WiecznieNieNasycony
    @WiecznieNieNasycony 23 часа назад

    this will be very good if it have standard barbell opiton to use on it

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  3 часа назад

      Could do a lot of accessories on it for sure.

  • @patirckGadwah
    @patirckGadwah Месяц назад

    Waiting for the Husky workbench review next 🤞

  • @steverealtyandfinance8171
    @steverealtyandfinance8171 Месяц назад +4

    For a machine over $5K and you need a workaround to use the Smith machine. No thanks!

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад

      I know some who own it and are ok with it. Just not for me.

  • @richardmather1906
    @richardmather1906 Месяц назад

    Good review as usual. They should just scrap the Smith machine and modify it so its a rack you can use a barbell on. I don't know about you, but that fixed bar path never feels right to me. And I never feel good after I use one. (I mostly see them in hotel gyms).

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад

      Agreed, I find the same for myself.

    • @richardmather1906
      @richardmather1906 Месяц назад

      @@BasementBrandon I was originally going to add that if one wanted to use a Smith Machine one could just sign up for Planted Fitness. But I figured that was too snarky . . .

  • @stealthassasin1day291
    @stealthassasin1day291 Месяц назад

    Not sure what makes it a pro version when the FT2 has the same utility minus the weird belt squat. Looks to be wider but the regular FT2 has been thoroughly vetted aside from Coop not assembling it correctly which made it wobble.

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад

      My guess would be the overall build quailty, some of the pull up bar stuff, the rotating lower section and weight storage... but you make a good point.

  • @halihandro
    @halihandro Месяц назад

    Great review, even if the machine itself is a bit of a let down.

  • @tagn8088
    @tagn8088 26 дней назад

    Wish they merged with Voltra and have two of those instead of the weight stacks.

  • @BrandonSchwartz1
    @BrandonSchwartz1 Месяц назад

    Feel like 4 post Rep Ares 2.0 and then just add-on a smith attachment makes more sense for the money and can probably be in an even smaller footprint than this.
    No hate for milking that free equipment though.

  • @KuyaDru
    @KuyaDru Месяц назад

    #RaiseHail 🙌🏽💪🏽

  • @squealer42
    @squealer42 Месяц назад

    As I recall from my 7-11 frequenting youth...
    Big Gulp = 32oz
    Super Gulp = 44oz (my favorite)
    Double Gulp = 64oz (what sick bastard would ever get that - other than my 1 fat friend)
    Smaller sizes = why? Big Gulp is usually same price. Go for a Slurpee instead.

  • @Garage_gym48
    @Garage_gym48 Месяц назад

    Chris Hemsworth. Second greatest Aussie (behind Shane Warne).. comprehensive review. Did you ask for it in black and white? 😅

  • @Tamarack_Barbell
    @Tamarack_Barbell Месяц назад

    The Barbell is king 👑
    Smith machines are a money grab 💰

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад

      I do see why people like them, but just not really for me personally.

  • @skibmbp
    @skibmbp Месяц назад

    I’m sure this is not cheap, with a smith bar that is crap just say it sucks. Your audience will appreciate that! I’m sure if you were just getting a functional trainer there are dozens cheaper and better.

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +1

      I think the issue is that it's not ideal for me and what I would want, but if you read the comments there are those who have this and like it for what it is. I try to frame it appropriately so people can make the best decision for themselves.

  • @MrMemoryLane
    @MrMemoryLane 21 день назад

    This vs the Force USA C10 😣. Decisions decisions

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  21 день назад

      I would have a hard time committing that much money to a FT personally, but I know people love em!

  • @charlesb.1083
    @charlesb.1083 Месяц назад

    rather have a regular squat rack with functional trainer all in one...

  • @Mrwatson185
    @Mrwatson185 Месяц назад

    Wait, you are not Chris? I feel cheated

  • @bobbyhunt3009
    @bobbyhunt3009 Месяц назад

    This is a low budget functional trainer, BOS has higher quality than Center and this does not even compare to a Rogue or REP Arcad piece
    Sorry but nobody would pay $6,000 for this low budget piece when a REP Arcadia Max or Rogue's is $2 500 with 200 lb. Weight stacks and much higher quality.
    Honestly I was surprised to see you promoting a Center FT.
    Your gym is too high quality to have this low budget piece in it
    Come on man, seriously, you'd have to be living under a rock to pay that price
    This piece is worth about $1,500 at most, has nylon pulleys, low budget.
    You cannot in good conscience tell people to buy this for even $1,500 but $6,000 oh my gracious
    You were on my honest list at #4 but just fell off the list. Only 3 left but
    Why Brandon, Why, because they sent it free, man, looking real bad here
    Sorry, I have to tell the truth
    Disappointed!!!!!!!

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад

      I'm beginning to think you don't even watch the videos lol.

  • @ScottMeyer-g8f
    @ScottMeyer-g8f Месяц назад

    5400 wow

  • @apuz13
    @apuz13 Месяц назад +1

    Your trick for the smith machine really isn’t a trick. It’s specified on the Inspire videos at least for the regular FT2.

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +4

      It’s a work around for a flawed design IMO.

    • @apuz13
      @apuz13 Месяц назад +2

      @ it’s how it is designed so really not a trick or work around because it is intended to be that way. I happen to love my FT2 is it absolutely perfect no but when you can have a smith machine without the need for pulling weights off and putting weights on it’s great.

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +1

      @@apuz13I say that based off how that’s not how an actual smith machine works. I watched several FT2 reviews and most complained about the functionality, so for Inspire to not address this seems like a missed opportunity. Personally I’d rather have a plate loaded smith that works as intended vs a selectorized one that isn’t a true smith machine.

  • @gabevasq
    @gabevasq Месяц назад +2

    I own this machine, you aren't using it correctly if you have to crawl out from under the bar.

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +4

      Id love to hear how you rack the bar at a higher position without moving the trolleys.

    • @Montemoney2
      @Montemoney2 Месяц назад +1

      Yes I’d also love to hear that. I wanted this machine but what was demonstrated in this review definitely makes me want to look for other options.

    • @petesustaitaable
      @petesustaitaable Месяц назад

      you’re meant to have it high, like a normal bench press. When you’re ready to start, you twist it forward to move the trolleys down to the bottom position. Now you can unhook the bar from the trolleys and start your rep from the bottom.
      When you finish your set, you rehook the bar to the trolleys, then twist them forward to move them up. Now you can get up, rest then repeat.

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +2

      That requires moving the trolleys, which I covered in the video. There are still inherent issues with that and going heavy or to failure. A regular smith machine does not have that issue, which was my point.

  • @GNTHEGUNS
    @GNTHEGUNS Месяц назад +1

    Look at this cookie cutter with a shin tattoo.

    • @BasementBrandon
      @BasementBrandon  Месяц назад +1

      I am Lenny reincarnate.

    • @GNTHEGUNS
      @GNTHEGUNS Месяц назад

      @BasementBrandon I kid, you are the man.