Has China Won?
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- Опубликовано: 1 апр 2020
- The United States and China are locked in a geopolitical contest for technological, ideological, and military supremacy that will define the 21st century. If anything, the global spread of COVID-19 has only intensified this competition, throwing these powers’ contrasting global outlooks and ambitions - as well as their limitations - into sharp relief. What does this crisis reveal about US-China relations in 2020? Could the pandemic and its economic fallout alter their global trajectories? Center for a New American Security CEO Richard Fontaine and Asia Research Institute distinguished fellow Kishore Mahbubani join Council President Ivo Daalder to discuss.
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None of these gentleman mentioned which country started or involved most of conflict (wars) in the world. And we all know there's only one country
Goods Point !!!!!
As an ex diplomat and probably the top advisers to the government of one of the closest allies of United States, Kishore simply can’t answer that magic question.....
Vince Ngo well, idk if the new work order is always running by the same group of interest, or do they have conflicts among themselves. I actually think the truth is most likely always simpler than conspiracy though, most of the time conflicts resulted is just due to pure stupidity and greediness.
America 😂😂😂😂
I mean sure, but the us been around for longer than modern china. USA almost 250 years old, prc isn’t even 100 yet. Is no surprise us been in more wars, plus most of them is cuz us was dragged into them by Europe
We can see how the Americans are losing because they are in denial of the reality. Richard is a good representative.
@James Lum Me too. I tried to listen to Richard for 3 minutes and find that I can't figure out what he's trying to come up with and has to fast forward.
The world is a burden to the United States. I say if China wants the UN,WHO, IMF,etc i say they can have it.
Just a little, because they still have powerful corporations. But they would lose the other sectors if they keep being complacent
@@jeanneng8320 the same to me! absolutely no idea to catch up this Richard guy
Honestly, Kishore seems very clear and articulate, but I have no idea what Richard is talking about.
It was hard for Richard to speak his mind by hiding the principle of 'America First'.
Richard, ironic as it sound, acts like a robot repeating the same anti-China narratives, word by word, exactly like the other thousands of so-called "China expert". For sure, a mouthpiece of the US government.
I feel the same too, Kishore presented a clear point for a better world while Richard is mumbling continuously with his own propaganda.
Kishore gives smart answers!
Well to be fair, Kishore was the foreign minister for Lee Kuan Yew, arguably one of the greatest strategic thinker of 21st century.
Kishore giving a simple cultural lesson of what all Asian people know, be polite, say what you want nicely, be kind, be courteous. Give some face, and all will get along fine.
As they butcher and enslave each other.
Give Richard a tissue. The empire is over champ
Richard is an example of someone who’s been stuck on a island for years ( all by himself ).and finally someone shows up to talk with him...
He just rambles on and on and doesn’t really say anything remotely important...
good description
So right
Like a frog in the well, and the Frog believes the well is the entire world.
And my GOD Dr. Mabubali really gets to the point on Asians caring about their face. That's why you should let the educated people to be diplomat.
The bottom line here in this program and the beef is the government ideology, the US sees Communis ideology as a threat but China does not see Capitalism as a threat but a compliment to their progress
@阿孚 I like that description; it's clever, though I'm not sure that China is that closed.
@阿孚 lol yeah
This Richard guy just doesn’t know China.. “we don’t have evidence to against, we just decided to not like China.”
LOL
You can wake up a person pretend to be sleep. The US keeps Bala Bala, while China keeps doing the job.
What the heck is Richard talking about?? I appreciate how Kishore articulates his facts so well in his views on China, the United States and the world
This younger guy has very convoluted thought. His mind still thinking of American first
I don't agree with Richard's view at all, he is thinking China in term of an ill competitor in every aspects. He mentioned few things about international rule of laws, intercultural property theft, security and surveillance gatherings etc. Now, first on international rule of laws, let me remind you that after second world war ended the western industrial powers including the soviet unions got together making the international rule of laws they have not included China, so the rule of laws they made is purely for their benefits. When China catches up today a lot of the rules and or laws made back then is no longer suitable for today's environments in every aspects. China of course feels that the rules and laws need to be amended to suit everyone not just the G7s,however, any changes to the existing rules and laws made after the second war will jeopardize the total control of the today's G7, China wants to have some say it it but got their rights have been denied, just imagine the second largest economy in the world has no rights in the rule of laws and when especially the old rule of laws are not in any favour to the Chinese do anyone think they will obey the rules and laws made without them? You know the answer already. What about the intellectual property theft issue? The American and its European partners have geared up on China accusing China stealing and copy their hi tech properties, do anyone know what the Americans and Japanese did after the second war? How did America became so advanced? Please don't tell me because god really blessed America for it. America had stolen technologies and ideas from European countries like Germany, The Great Britain and France before and after the second war. The Japanese was back engineered endless electronics from the US and Europe after the war. Did anyone accused the Americans and Japanese for that? No, because no one has the courage to do so, now the American especially accusing China for stealing and back engineering the US technology and accused the Chinese Government forcing US companies to handover intellectual properties if they wants to do business in China, this is not true at all. When US companies decided to set up their business in China they knew exactly the requirements of China, agreed on before coming to China, they have agreed to share technology and ideas with the Chinese partners in order to set up their business, the Chinese did not steal what is belong to the Americans, it was shared. Chinese governments in any level did not threaten the US companies to surrender their trade secrets at all, all these can be verified by those companies doing business in China. Donald Trump accused Huawei stole American 5G technology, what a laughing stock that is, how did Huawei steal the 5G from America when America doesn't even have this technology? Did Huawei go to the future stole the American 5G and came back to the present time and developed the technology? What a lunatic that is. Talk about security and surveillance, China is no match of the US, The US is the worst when come to spy on its citizens, CIA and the National Security Agency have up to date not only surveillanced its own citizens but other nations citizens with or without significance, Edward Snowden had reveled that German chancellor's mobile phone was taped by the CIA and the NSA during Obama time. CIA have pressured all Apple products including all mobile device to have a back door for the American Intelligence to get in, in this case Google and FaceBook are no difference to Apple.
You are absolutely correct. What the rogue US regime is accusing China of doing is exactly what the US has been doing all along. In their mistaken wish for China to "behave like the US" behave, they can only imagine that China will do as the US did, do and will continue to do.
wow! a big wall of text! lol!
next time please use paragraphs, it would make it a lot easier to read. I'm sure you said a lot of good things... but I didn't bother to read it
If this Richard were supposed to be a Chinese expert in US, i am pretty sure that China will win hands down.
Kishore grew up and established his career in Singapore where Chinese and Indians live side by side peacefully and I do hope Kishore can be the person who can convince Indian government to work together with China Belt and Road Initiative in Indian and Pakistan continents.
Pakistan is pushing heroin into India, so they aren`t going to be all lovey dovey.
American strategists fail to understand one simple fact: in a conflict between China and US, Asia will choose Asia. And - surprise surprise! - it is an Asia which includes China. It's not that they're pro-China, that'a very different completely as public opinion polls often tell, but you can't have an Asia which does not include China's participation. In contrast, Asia will largely function without American leadership or primacy which has no geographic or cultural landhold. The 20th century American alliance system with SK, Japan and others will simply not stand up to the weight of thousands of years of China's engagement with their fellow Asian neighbours. And therefore, being that most of the world's population will NOT choose US over China, American strategists need to rethink everything about this contest.
@Xye Leyx I agree. And the US is a pivotal power in Asia. While Japan and India will more and more bond against China.
I would argue Asia chooses regional deal making and building up their own economies and nations than relying entirely on outside forces and nations. Just look at how Taiwan and South Korea dealt with the CV.
Xye Leyx, the USSR had no money. It’s all about money, trade and financial win-win. Example, Thailand will side with China if China builds infrastructure and enriches the Thai economy. It’s up to us, Americans, to propose a better deal and pragmatic solutions. All talk ideology will go nowhere.
@Xye Leyx To be honest, half of Europe WAS on the side of the USSR, that's why there was an Iron Curtain. Today, it's not so much that the rest of Asia will or will not welcome the Chinese with open arms. Again, opinion polls in many Asian populations aren't pro-China at all. But any framework of Asian regional prosperity and security must include China's role and cannot be co-opted by the US to target China.
@@FR-yr2lo The US is a pivotal power in Asia but that's a kind way of saying that they're not on the map but they have an important role to play. Japan and India are two of China's most powerful neighbours and will be two of the most important engagements China has within Asia. But I think it's too simple, way too simple, to say these engagements will be "against China".
Richard what is he talking about? the same brainwash bla bla,on the other hand Kishore very impressive argumentation .
america's Infrastructure is Broken.
Broken long time ago
I do not agree. The Chinese Communist Party is NOT trying to revive Chinese Civilization! The CCP since Mao has uprooted the good elements in Chinese culture starting with taking all the components of HEART out of the Chinese characters, then use DIVISION to turn family members against each other such as in the CULTURAL REVOLUTION. - I have to ask, IS THIS PROGRAM A PROPAGANDA BY THE CCP?!
@@bambiwright9535 You are so full of hatred. This is expected especially from the so-called exceptional people.
2 lanes in a popular road in dallas been under construction for 6 months...unthinkable in China
So are the people
Man this narrative from Richard only shows here will never be cooperation............
he think his white west better than Asian, so we Asian people need follow their command, need them to tell us what is good, what is bad. arrogance at it most!
Agreed 100%
@James Lum Forgive him.. he is way too dump to stay in the competition
@E PLURIBUS UNUM hows those stimulus checks? you get evicted yet trump shill?
The younger guy doesn't make any sense i have no idea what he's spouting on about. while the older guy the author of the book makes total sense he talks in a way the general population can understand.
Shuai Li, this is because he has a total fuzzy and biased understanding of China, this kind of people are all over the world. No that they are stupid, but it is more like white supremacy's idea
Basically what the Chinese are doing the same thing the US always does, but the US doesn’t want to share power, so there’s competitions between them. Richard is either brainwashed or just promoting American interests, same thing the Chinese rep would do if they have it with them.
Shuai Li the order guy is on neither side, just talking about the problem and how should they work together and solve it. But it’s useless, the two powers will clash no matter what.
So true
It's called propaganda.
listening to richard talking you can sense the bitterness in his heart. practically attacking china in every words. the topic is suppose to be working together for the betterment of the world.
There is no such thing as sharing in the republican mindset
@James Lum Sharp observation and well said.
I enjoy listening to Kishore anytime, thanks.
The TPP was the geopolitical strategy to counter China. A "trade deal" that excludes China from their own region
Poor US representative, still has to hate, put down. Love to fight. Can't allow that Kishore may be right. Kishore is much better educated, and experienced. US man just promotes same old, same old.
What is wrong with the preservation of the party if the party can do good for the people, bring prosperity and happiness to his people?
With such kind of guys, US is hopeless.
I do not agree. The Chinese Communist Party is NOT trying to revive Chinese Civilization! The CCP since Mao has uprooted the good elements in Chinese culture starting with taking all the components of HEART out of the Chinese characters, then use DIVISION to turn family members against each other such as in the CULTURAL REVOLUTION. - I have to ask, IS THIS PROGRAM A PROPAGANDA BY THE CCP?!
@@bambiwright9535 You are one very sick nuthead.
Bambi Wright Obviously you choose to believe what you wish were true. In case you have been too busy reading the lies perpetrated by western media, Mao has been as dead as the dodo bird for 40+years. His last 20 years was not something for China to be proud of and many Chinese leaders saw his cultural revolution as a grave error. When Deng Xiaoping became the helmsman, things changed, rapidly. Today, 4 decades later, Chinese has achieved what no country has every achieved: from gdp 2% of America's, today it surpasses the USA's in PPP. Next year or the year after that it will surpass the US in absolute GDP terms.
Here's what Standard Chartered says:
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Not only is China likely to overtake the US in 2020, but by 2030 it will be joined by India, Standard Chartered said in its report, with annual GDP growth set to accelerate from about 6% now to almost 8% in the coming decade.
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Open your eyes, if you have eyes to see. Do not depend on NYT or other western media for your education or you will remain ignorant, like the frog in the well.
@@richardkong4387 Sick or thick - it is not meant for thinking.
In dealing with the covid19 crisis most gvts around the world called the chinese embassies for help as it was clear that the US gvt isn't able to even manage the crisis in it's own New York. A transition has happened
(Covid- 19, We are number one in the world 2020) Sick.!
Well managing it and pretending to manage it are two different things..China lied about everything especially the numbers...yes USA was terrible at managing it...the only capable countries were Taiwan and South Korea and Singapore...
@@MrTaloul In the US the president called is a 'hoax' & 'common flu' and now 16 000 Americans have died from it. That isn't a superpower, The US used to matter...now it has a clown for a president.
@@tthex6484 nobody is claiming it is, that is not the argument...I would not rely on America but I also would never rely on a country like china who hides information, kidnaps journalists, allowed the virus to spread all over the world by pretending there was no virus....Remember this is not the first time..China always has viruses..Why isn't that the case in India or Indonesia or Thailand? Also even when china wants to help it sends defected masks to Europe...the thing is I lived in China so I know how the system works.. Just because America is terrible does not mean China is great..lol...both are terrible..
@The Miners Table What can one expect from an exceptional people from an exceptional nation.
If the us is relying on ppl like Richard, they're screwed.
This guy Richard is very defensive. If he is heading a think tank advising US policies, good luck USA.
First is the Cairo Declaration of 1943. Second is the Potsdam Declaration of 1945. Third is the Treaty of Peace, also known as the Treaty of San Francisco, signed on September 8, 1951, between 48 nations and Japan. (Because of the onset of the cold war, neither the People’s Republic of China nor the Republic of China was invited to San Francisco). Fourth is the Sino-Japanese Peace Treaty, signed on April 28, 1952, between Japan and the Republic of China. Fifth is the UN General Assembly Resolution 2758, passed in 1971, recognising that the People’s Republic of China was the only lawful representative of China to the United Nations, in place of the Republic of China. And, lastly, the Joint Communiqué of the Government of Japan and the Government of the People’s Republic of China, signed on September 29, 1972, which acknowledged that all territories stolen from the Chinese shall be restored.
Today, of all the features in the Spratlys, Vietnam has 29, the Philippines has eight and China has nine
In each one of these treaties or declarations, reading them separately, or reading the six together, you will find definitive evidence supporting the legal position that the Spratly Islands belong to China.
Since the 1950s, the Vietnamese have been actively and aggressively taking over many of these features in the Spratlys. The Philippines has also done the same, starting in the 1970s. So, today, of all the features in the Spratlys, Vietnam has 29, the Philippines has eight and China has nine.
In the 1970s, it was discovered that the South China Sea possessed a wealth of oil and gas reserves. This resulted in a dramatic escalation of interest in the region, particularly by Vietnam and the Philippines. As a result, increased tension ensued.
The situation was further exacerbated in 1982, when the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea was promulgated, establishing a 12-mile-from-shore territorial water, and a 200-nautical-mile economic zone. This has further complicated the claims and counterclaims, and enticed more Asean countries to make claims in the South China Sea.
I can say Kishore is one of the few people out there who truly understand China having visited. I always wonder how those so called "experts on china" who never lived in China for a long time nor speak the language can speak about China...
This Richard guy is exactly why America became what it is now.
Richard perception is a wheel sticked in the mud while the truck move s without that whell.
Kishore is speaking from his heart. Kishore: Vietnam actually did not invade Cambodia. Vietnam was helping Cambodia out of Khmer genocide.
Why is Richard speaking with a less confident body language? He repeated the same popular cliche: No, it's not about China or Chinese people, but it is about CCP. He wants to avoid being called racist but knowing well the yellow peril in their heart.
Many Western intellectuals like fighting the Chinese to free China from the Chinese. It's very puzzling.
Don't compare thinking of the Chinese people with the West as they are different.
This Richard guy is SUCH a lightweight. Hollow arguments which tend to revolve over the sacred cow of Democracy which has failed in its response to the virus or MANY other challenges around the world.
This is a wake up call for Americans.
Well done the Chicago council BUT Prof Mahbubani needs to be given more of a MAINSTREAM platform in the US. BUT Western/US media prefer to hear the sound of their own voice these days.
Kishore has a good wisdom and some even magic talent as Asian, Kudos sir, wonderful talk!
Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesperson Hua Chunying spoke on Twitter on Thursday (23rd). As of this Monday (20th), China has provided more than 2.4 billion masks to the United States. China also has provided 5,000 ventilators and other equipment to the United States, hoping to save more lives.
Richard’s comment on how China focus on preserving the party first than its people’s wellbeing, Hahah, it shows how biased his view of China is and how little he really understands Chinese societies. Has CCP not put Chinese people’s wellbeing first, CCP would have been overthrown a long time ago. At the end of day, a good system or good governance is the one that takes care of it’s people’s well-being by solving the equality problem. China has lifted 800 million people out of poverty in a short time, think about it? Kishore knows exactly what he is talking about...if people want to understand China should listen to him.
'How to Deal with the Rise of China'.
Is that another way of saying "how to make sure another country doesn't stay successful, cuz Murica'?
Exactly. Just like they did to Japan not that Long before.
That is exactly the intention of the rogue US regime in its handling and treatment of China. Only fools think otherwise.
Many Chinese student freely go to US to study and freely go back to China with more positive views of China lol
I respect Kishore Mahbubani's analysis on the rise of China & Asia, we are seeing the return of China, India & Asia in general at the centre of global power, which is backed by demographic & economic trends, That's a fact! The world, especially America & Europe must change & adapt to this new world order which going to be an Asian led world order.
yeah, we are sick of hearing " the West" , we are "the East" , we stand by China over you white west!!
I agree the West Must Adapt and Change to move to new world order.
soonme teh ha ha ha, lmao. That was the dumbest thing I’ve heard in a long time. Thanks for the comic relief...
Let me respond to these
points since I lived in both China and USA. My opinion is different than the mainstream...yes power has shifted to Asia and other countries will raise like Vietnam and Indonesia and India....however having strong economies is one thing and people having descent wages is something else. China has over a billion people and majority will never be moderate income and most basic services like good healthcare and clean food will not be provided...as for the west, many countries like America and France and UK are declining but others are doing well or raising ..Poland is doing great and so is Estonia and Russia is playing bigger roles geopolitically ....
Also the ideas put forth that China and India always controlled the global economy is not based on reality ..there were many competing empires ..where are the Romans? Greeks? Persians? Turks? Arabs and Islamic empires?
You can't win a neverending multiplayer game...
To say preservation of CPC is similar to.preservation of the US constitution..
"Winning" is a faulty mentally, a concept that there must be a loser, before you can be the winner...
It is akin to saying, for you to live, someone must die....it is good for ego and motivation though.
The Fast East mentally is focus on survival and be able to stand and overcome any hardship, to have enough for the future..
They don't think of fighting for the sake to be the winner, because in fighting, there is 3 outcomes, No.1 you lose, you die, No.2 you win but after winning a bruising war, you die of your own wounds. No.3, you win and didn't die of your wounds but now, you have to be careful of the loser's descendants, they will come back for revenge...all 3 possible outcomes are fighting for nothing...waste of time, effort and resources...
So, the moment, you stop thinking of winning (that requires fighting) and start thinking coexistent, cooperation, etc. with others, you already start to win...
China just wants to improve its people’s standard of living and takes care its own interests and business. Isn’t it every country’s goal? If China continues to increase the size of its middle class, continues to improve its people’s standard of living and by doing so continues to increase its GDP, it will surpass US naturally because its population is almost 5 times of that of US. Why does US want to prevent China to improve its people’s lifes? That’s an irrational behavior. US doesn’t represent the world and it should deal with its own problems, gun violence, systemic racism, ever increasing wealth gap, and urban decay, etc.
Good discussion from two very qualified speakers giving two different point of views. Richard is very good in giving the US point of view. He tried very hard to be objective and apolitical. Most important is, he did not criticise or demonise China unlike most American speakers. He tried to be as factual as he can. As for Prof Kishore, as usual, he is brilliant and his views are really profound and unbiased. I always enjoy listening to his wisdom. I share Prof Kishore view too that the World would very much want the US to be the leader but not to the extent of destroying China because China too is a major player. It is a win win for all if both can co-exist together.
Lol, apparently you weren't paying attention if you think he, Richard was trying to be objective
@@cam24p Yes he was attacking China but not aggresively. His anti China views echoed the views of most Americans?
Richard is a joke.
@@eymeeraosaka2954 He is supposed to be a thinker. He spent his life and occupation on this. His thoughts should be more informed, intelligent and balanced than the common american's view. It should be his job to keep to the facts and correct misinformation or misjudgements so the american people will be better informed.
US is doom from how this ex diplomat talk and still feel almighty and egoistic about US situation now.
Every political party in the world tries its best and wants to hold on to its power, nothing wrong with that. What's important is how well the party serves its people. No party can rule forever if its own people dislike what the party does. The Chinese Communist Party is no exception.
kwong davis You are right and at this time China sent aid to many countries but didn’t forget to send packages to its students abroad.
No wonder America is losing, when you have a guy like Richard giving advice.
in a nutshell. America actually dont need anything from anybody.
it has its own a population | America has own resources from gold to oil. it has arctic to tropical climate to grow any food it wants! BUT SOME PEOPLE love to mind other people's business
AMERICA HAS TOO MANY "karens"
Whether it came from China is to be determined by the scientific community.
Congrats Prof Kishore. You literally cornered Richard F. He was lost ! Especially when US walked away from their own programme eg TPP when all Asian countries were practically helping US to anchor in SEA and Far East nations. Well, its good news for China. Why the complaint now?
I wanted to watch/listen to the whole session, but the "THIRD" condition that Mr. Mahbubani mentioned immediately presents what I believe is a root of an inherent flaw in the thesis of his book. Saying China must play by the rules represents an irony to anyone who TRULY KNOWS WHAT AT THE VERY CORE IS AN UNCHANGED USA FOREIGN POLICY for most of its century and a half existence. THE USA HAS NEVER PLAYED BY THE RULES COVERTLY and sometimes even OVERTLY. Being a Filipino who deeply resents China's grabbing of islands that have been ruled in international tribunal as The Philippines's EEZ and lest we forget the thousands of its own people the government massacred in Tiananmen Square, one can at least see very clearly who the "BAD GUYS" are. The USA on the other hand has sanctioned many covert operations that have resulted in wars and even overt ones that for me counts as crimes against humanity. A very clear case is that of the IRAQ war after 9/11, which was not only waged with completely false evidence but is the genesis of a continuing exponential ascent to a great financial burden for the people of the United States. And who can forget Edward Snowden who exposed not only the US government's willful disregard for its own constitution to go as far as to SPY ON ITS OWN PEOPLE, but more importantly as I see it that there is no true significant difference between the Republicans and Democrats. Obama who ran on a platform regarding the need for government transparency secretly continued the unconstitutional spying on the American people that George W. Bush approved during his his term. So given these parameters, PERHAPS the question ought to be not who will win, rather WHO WILL BE LESS OR MORE RUTHLESS AGINST HUMANITY. I trust neither to play by the rules ... EVER! Oh, BTW is there even a rule anymore???
Internationally the foreign policy differences between the Democrats and the Republicans are a matter of degree and subtlety, but domestically the differences are pretty substantial.
that guy is too young too simple, sometiems naive.
Most Chinese people are happy with what the Party has done so far.
And overseas Chinese are also proud to identify with China.
Aren't you ashamed of being a Chinese now. Maybe you don't know it now, Chinese is the most hated race n the world.
Of course they're happy..in public. In China, be happy with the CCP or be shot... you're choice!
Muhamad Aiman Go to China, talk to the people and see it for yourself. Your perception of the CCP and China is grossly different from the real situation.
joselito banares Many people are racists and they are often ignorant.
Just read Gracias China!!! in today's NY Times (04/21/2020). The absence of US humanitarian activities in S. America makes Chinese donation and help more special than ever.
When you speak from a position of objectivity, you don't have to be always right, but your goal is always towards what is right.
On the other hand, if you speak from a position that is subjective, when all your actions are about self interest first before all else, then you have to resort to any kind of argument with that end in mind, irregardless it is right or wrong ethically or morally.
WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM IS WIN WIN .... DON'T UNDERESTIMATE OTHER NATION. THIS IS HUGE MISTAKE FROM US GOVERNMENT.
Agree with Kishore. China's aim is not to spread communism, But to revive Chinese civilization, through a collectivism way of governance. CCP may more appropriate to mean the Chinese Civilization Party or the Chinese Collectivism Party.
Without a chinese scholar ? What discusssion can i understand?
If your life is in question, who of these two would you turn for advice?
Kishore made it clear with the key word "civilization".
The visible scenario is: US Whitehouse and Congress are more hostile than benign and Donald Trump Administration flip flop in and out whereas Beijing consistently takes the stand it wants to negotiate and not go to war. As a Singaporean myself, I wish the Whitehouse take note: Our PM means if US pushes China to the point nations of ASEAN have to choose sides, Singapore will very likely choose China, for obvious geopolitics, security and economic consideration.
What was our comprehensive long term strategy for 1930's Germany?
Great discussion! Kishore look forward to reading your book. I would think both powers are running neck to neck in a race to be the dominant power. Cnina as an aspiring superpower and the US holding on to remain as the number 1 superpower (status quo). In this round (re: round 19/Covid 19) it seems China has taken a lead with its medical diplomacy and US may be falling behind a bit.
Not to say that the US cannot regain its momentum once they emerge out of this crisis. I would emphasize to de-emphasize the competitive game between the aspiring superpower and the number 1 superpower as status quo ante since we may have entered into a new phase where nations have to pull themselves out of this crisis on their own merit and concentrate on self development then developing relations with other countries. Not to say that international relations - be it bilateral or multilateral will not remain as a strong force for ''collective action for collective security'' but that it will be secondary to serving one's own national interest and enhancement of one's own image. Something Donald Trump may have perceived and his election victory may be attributed albeit partially to the fact that Trump is what America needs rights now - for the future it remains to be seen.
We all can tell by his look Richard living in 19 century
Is China time.
One year has passed since this video and it is obviously the US has not learned anything from this book
Why I have never seen chinese media or insitiute talking about global superpower fighting each other?
To all my American friends, Understanding China is more important than fearing or threatening China. And when we say Understanding China it means Understanding Chinese Civilization and Confucian values. They are 5000 years old civilization. These days chinese society is more vibrant and dynamic that american society. People are progressive, they are promoting entrepreneurs. The business of Politics is left to the state or central govt whom all the Chinese trust. They are the rising power, confronting them makes them more stronger from inside.
Actually many Australians would love to close Pine Gap and for the Marines to go home. Sorry to break it to Richard
China has the great plan for their future development ,we will acheive this giant map road step by step .
Which political party don't want to stay in power for ever? LOL.
Kishore Mahbubani has a clear understanding of the importance of culture and the material basis of political legitimacy in the context of China's history. Material basis as measured by the rise of standard of living. As in Maslow's hierarchy of needs, meeting the basic needs (food, shelter, clothing, etc.) is the broad basis of upon which other needs (safety, love and belonging, esteem, and self-actualization) are met. The vector of China's trajectory towards democratization has to be built upon satisfying the layer of needs of its people - esteem of its culture included. Kishore's last statement about the progress of the Chinese. quality of life now compared to 40 years ago illustrates where the Chinese Communist Party justifies its legitimacy. After all, one needs to have a "full stomach" before enjoying the higher freedoms on Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
"You know?"
The world doesn't need a world leader, but we all have the responsibility to protect this world.
Kishore is so wise
I'm Chinese. Just from my personal experience, in asia, Taiwan hate us most. Because they want to be independent, while our government prevent them from doing so. The next is Japan. Although in recent years, our relation with Japan has been improved, but there are still thousands of right-wing politicians put on some hostile policies towards us. India also hate us, but not as much as Japan and Taiwan. India and China have frequent border conflicts these years , which undermines China-India relationship.
Other countries in East Asia do not have much hostility towards us. And we tried our best to revive prosperity of the entire East Asia region.
Richard Fontaine doesn't know what he doesn't know but thinks he knows alot. In the company of someone like Kishore Mahbubani, he could have learned something useful but chose to be dismissive & said so much of nothing when offered such invaluable insights by a superior intellectual who has witness major world events in person and have interactions with world political figures who have played major roles in them - past and present.
yes....he don`t know that he don`t know that he don`t know
This has aged well
I see there are plenty of recruits from the 50 cent army in the comments section
Yes the CCP VIRUS EUNIC WARRIORS HAVE NO BULLETS NO ARMY ,Ccp will starve on their own greed
And you? A 5 cent idiot.
As long as you give out carrot you can keep waving your stick but now Trump only save carrot for themselves so...
One of the biggest hurdle of the US is they believe it is a Zero sum game.
It’s not over, till it’s over!
I think Malaysian Chinese must learn from Kishore's approach in maintaining their interest within a Malay majority country - being minimalist and multilateral.
I love this Richard guy, as i love Trump. Stay well 😁
China’s activities in the South China Sea have not been aggressive, or assertive, but rather have been restrained
Over this period, Vietnam built an airstrip on one of its features. Last year, China decided to proceed with the construction of an airport on one of its features. China has also built four lighthouses in the Spratlys to support international navigation.
By 2002, because of intensive efforts of members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations and China, a Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea was agreed, promoting bilateral negotiation among the disputing nations over sovereignty issues, and calling for the unfettered freedom of navigation in the South China Sea for all nations of the world. A code of conduct between the Asean countries and China to reflect the above is now being pursued.
Oh really? So Vietnam built an airstrip on one of its features and which airstrip is it? Btw im from Vietnam. And as i read your comment i can see that Vietnam is the one to blame and China is right to protect its sovereign from the evil Vietnam. Am i right?
@Timakaceh Man you too, it seem a good agent for you as well
@@babadoz4204 definitely right belong to China. Vietnam in history belong to ancient China was called Indo -China in past century.
Sour grapes on building 1200 beds hospital in 10 days.
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: def. yes .
Richard is very typical. But I’m happy to see that is still the case as a Chinese. Mindset is very important to guide the strategy if they have one now.
6:42 'If the US focuses on the well-being of its citizens and not on its primacy..' Well, the US thinks that China (or any other great power) will only cooperate if these countries are not nearly as strong as the US. The US also believes that if it focuses only on domestic affairs, then China (and or another great power) won't and will get involved in international affairs and, consequently dominate the world.
A rather stupid question. China do not think of a Win Lose situation in anything it does. It go for a Win Win. If anything still cannot get that right, he is either not listening or is deaf.
World means western media now must open its eyes and not to falsely critisize China unnecessary...Now U.S. and China must come together and give new vision to the world and help all countries...If they both do like this,it will be good outcome out of Pandemic.
The Chinese wrote the book “the art of war”
Lol, who are we kidding, we don't have independent media. And there is quite a bit of censorship on top of it.
Deng XiaoPing's quotes:
"Signal left turn right." China will continue to talk communism, but practice capitalism.
42:00 the current US two party system is even worse than the one party system...
Definitely can’t win now right?
Back to Jan people condemned Chinese Gov locked down the whole province but now they condemn China hadn’t done it earlier, so I guess maybe it’s because where there is a excuse there is a way
Although Kishore had more charisma, I find that he had relied on very intuitive examples rather than the finer interworking of governance apparaticks. I was astonished towards the end when he had made blatant contradictory claims of the possibilities drawn from liberalistic and democratic peace theories when the case at hand is between nations on two polar opposite ends of the ideological spectrum.
C'mon, what are you trying to say? You didn't really say anything substantive. Don't try to hide your empty rhetorics by using mumbo-jumbo jargons.
I think you need a refresher on communication. Intelligent communication is not about using high falutin words but making yourself understood by everyone.
Mahbubani's undergraduates can outwit this American.