@@vwharman Jim Benning I believe was with the Canucks longer as GM than his last predecessor. That said, the Canucks only have two playoff series wins following their 2011 trip to a Stanley Cup final.
@@vwharman yes Keenan was the worst of the worst...but he was GM for only 5 months, so perhaps this ranking considers length of tenure. Having a somewhat bad GM for 5 years could do more damage to an organization than having an absolute evil GM for 5 months. His 2 years as GM in St Louis though has to be on this list.
Jim Benning should definitely be on your list. Horrible free agent signings: Loui Eriksson Horrible drafting: Ollie Juolevi, Jake Virtanen Horrible trades: Connor Garland, OEL and his anchor contract for 3 EXPIRING contracts, Loui Eriksson, Jay Beagle, Antione Roussel and 2nd round and 1st round pick (Dylan Gunther)
Mike Keenan when he was GM (and coach) in St Louis. He absolutely ran that team into the ground with asinine player moves. And Gary McNamara when he was GM of the leafs during those horrible teams of the 1980s.
Milbury's worst move was actually a combination. Two years after drafting Roberto Luongo 4th overall and declaring Luongo to be the Islanders' "goalie of the future", and after a handful of games with the Islanders proved to Milbury that Luongo "didn't have it", he traded Luongo & Olli Jokinen to Florida for complete dud Oleg Kvasha & decent but injury prone Mark Parrish, then drafted Rick DiPietro with the #1 overall pick, ahead of Dany Heatley & Marion Gaborik. He completed this parlay by trading the Islanders only other experienced goalie, Kevin Weekes, leaving himself with no goalie for the upcoming season, because DiPietro was going back to college for one more year, LOL.
I'd like to nominate Stan Bowman with the Blackhawks as an honorable mention. Not only because he didn't inform ownership about what happened to Kyle Beach, but how he had totally mismanaged the Hawks roster after 2015, like trading Teuvo Teravainen, and making bad contracts.
In defense of Mike Gillis we later found out them last moves in that year he made was being forced by Owner Francesco Aquillini to keep that aging core competitive and keep trying to make the playoffs! This organization has been in shambles since he took over ownership of the team! He would not approve a rebuild to any of his GMs even though Mike Gillis told him many times that a rebuild has to happen! That's when he pulled the trigger on the bo horvat trade and pissed off Francesco, All Canucks fans currently hate Fancesco Aquillini
For Whalers fans, honorable mention to Ed Johnston for trading away Mike Liut, Kevin Dineeen then packaging Ron Francis and Ulf Samuelson to the Penguins
Showing how bad a GM Milbury was, during the Stanley cup finals years ago when Luongo was in goal for the Canucks, Milbury stated that having a goaltender of Luongos talent was why they would win the Stanley Cup. To which Pierre Mcquire responded, “so, why did you trade him and take Dipietro in the draft?”. Typical Milbury answer was “Ummmmm, errrrr”. Lol
About Milbury, he was a risk taker. If DiPietro actually lived up to his billing, he would have been an upgrade over Luongo. If Yashin still had the will to play like he did, he would have made them a bonafide force.
mike gillis top 5 worst GMs?? seriously?? he only led the canucks to back to back presidents trophies and a cup final appearance. the canucks had their most successful era under his watch. this is a joke.
@@alecedgeworth2814 the core was drafted by Burke, Nonis added Luongo then was fired a year later when the nucks missed the playoffs, Gillis added hamhuis, erhoff, and Malhotra who was pillar on the 3rd centre ( and would of been for years if it wasn't for a freak accident)
Remember how we saw Stan Bowman as a genius GM while Hawks managed 3 cups in five years? Without realizing the core was actually brought in by Dave Tallon? Now we don't look at Bowman as a genius anymore.. truth will out.. And Gillis was made to look better than he was. Personally I think he was too generous. Those mentioned trades weren't that bad. None of the players were household names, Bernier perhaps the only one on a regular base on a NHL roster. But boy did he give up too much money for some guys.
I'd say you can't blame the GM for Roy trade since he refused to play after the head coach didn't pull him out of the game and forced him to stay in the net. GM doesn't make those decisions about who stays in the net during the game.
It makes me sad for Houle because unlike a guy like Milbury, he is one of the nicest person you'll ever meet. He was put in a very bad situation and he did not have the skills to do the job.
Diyanno,people should keep their mouths shut,instead of saying,ill,words about a wonderful man! Watched Houle play many a game at the old Chicago,the guy had Class!End of story!
gillis should definitely not be on here cause the early 2010s was like the most successful era of canucks hockey ever with 1 win short of a cup and back to back presidents trophies. Only 1 other team in the 2010s decade had back to back presidents trophies. And chiarelli isn't entirely bad. His tenure in Edmonton yes was awful but in Boston he led the Bruins to their first stanley cup in nearly 40 years and they did come 2 wins short in 2013 as well and also got the presidents trophy in 2014.
Gillis definitely doesn't belong on this list, but Canucks fans have no toleration for failure. Losing the Cup, especially if you were the favourite, that's as bad as not making the playoffs. They threw the entire team under the bus.
@@ethanparker7900 Yeah, well for Vancouver, losing the Cup was like a bride ditching the groom right at the altar literally as she's about to give her vows, runs off with someone who just crashed the wedding. It's a team that had years of frustration, overcame setbacks to run into further brick walls. When they are ready to contend for a Cup, someone overshadows them and blocks it away. The 2011 team was their best chance to win. Unlike 1982 and 1994, this time, they were the favourite, and it couldn't have come at a better time. They just vanquished the deeply hated Blackhawks, they hosted the Olympics the year before, their star player led team Canada to gold, and they were set to meet Prince William and Princess Kate with the Cup on Canada Day (if they won). There was too much riding on this, it just, well you know, was scripted to have them hoist it.
yes that 2011 run was quite entertaining and their only real chance. And they sure did have their share of torment beforehand especially with chicago in round 2 in both 2009 and 2010 and finally getting their revenge against them in the first round in 2011 albeit barely cause they had a 3-0 lead in the series at one point then the defending champion blackhawks clawed their way back to force a game 7 which would go into OT and Alex Burrows sealing the deal. If the blackhawks were to have won game 7 in OT instead of the Canucks it would've been one of the biggest letdowns inot jsut in the 2010s decade but in league history altogether since the hawks barely made the playoffs that year as the 2nd wild card 8th seed and the canucks were the presidents trophy winners and people in the canucks organization like Alain Vigenault, Rick Bowness, Mike Gillis, etc would've been on the verge of losing their jobs so the entire organization and their fans really dodged a bullet there narrowly avoiding an epic collapse. Round 2 against Nashville was pretty hard fought too going in six then they breezed by San Jose like nothing and the final against the 3rd seeded Bruins the did have a lead in the series on 2 seperate occassions with a 2-0 lead at one point then the bruins fighting back to tie it at 2 then the canucks won game 5 to take a 3-2 lead going into game 6 giving them a chance to end it and win it in game 6 but the bruins would win forcing a game 7 which they won as well completing the upset. I obviously was rooting for boston in the final so I don't care much ab the canucks coughing up those leads tbh. I was rooting for the hawks in round 1 and the canucks won fair and square and good for the fans to finally get peace and chicago ofc won another cup just 2 yrs later in the lockout yr so whatever. I was rooting for the predators in round 2 personally but I knew the canucks were gonna win deep down given how resilient they were against chicago. I did root for the canucks over the sharks though in round 3. I was never much of a canucks fan but I sure did respect them hell out of them in the early 2010s and the sedin twins were 2 of my biggest idols growing up. Kesler, Burrows, Luongo, Hamhuis, Raymond, Vigenault, Bowness, etc too I respect the hell out of them! And god bless Rick Rypien🙏 Im sure losing game 7 of final had a little bit to do with his suicide besides the depression and PCS🧠🙏@@broadstreet21
Modern day examples include, but are not limited to: - Peter Chiarelli (Boston Bruins) (later days) - Tim Murray (Buffalo Sabres) (signed Kyle Okposo) - Jason Botterill (Buffalo Sabres) (signed Jeff Skinner to an 8-year extension which did not work out. It got better after Don Granato took over as head coach) - Stan Bowman (Chicago Blackhawks) (traded away several key Cup-winning players for cap reasons, then became embroiled in s** assault scandal) - Garth Snow (New York Islanders) (15-year Rick DiPietro contract handed out days after Milbury’s firing) - Jeff Gorton (New York Rangers) (drafted Lias Andersson, Vitali Kravtsov, Kaapo Kakko, Alexis Lafreniere) - Pierre Dorion (Ottawa Senators) (traded away Erik Karlsson, Mike Hoffman, Mark Stone, acquired Matt Duchene literally the season after coming within one goal of the SCF) - Ron Hextall & Chuck Fletcher (Philadelphia Flyers) (drafted Nolan Patrick over Cale Makar in 2017, clearly lampshaded by Bobby Clarke later on, signed JVR to monster contract, signed Provy to expensive contract, took gamble on Hart which eventually paid pff, failed to trade JVR at trade deadline) - Kyle Dubas (Toronto Maple Leafs) (way too expensive contract to John Tavares greatly hampering their ability to acquire depth) - Jim Benning (Vancouver Canucks) (signed Loui Eriksson to 6-year contract, drafted Olli Juolevi)
Houle was a disaster, though Irving Grundman might have been even worse. He managed to fully dismantle the late 1970s dynasty replacing genius Sam Pollack and pissing off Jacques Lemaire and Scotty Bowman. However, the trades you've mentioned do remind me that it is a tough call. Letting Leclair and Desjardins go was unforgivable. And I don't want to think about the Roy trade.
Actually, the dynasty was done in by the retirement of Yvan Cournoyer, Jacques Lemaire, Ken Dryden and coach Scotty Bowman. Where Grundman f***** up the most was in drafting Doug wickenheiser-- uggh-- over Dennis Savard
... in history ? You forget Ned Harkness of Red Wings. Also, vengeful Jack Adams trading away Lindsay, Sawczuk, Prystai, Bucyk, Glenn Hall, Red Kelly were all poor moves.
Jim Benning was far worse for the Canucks. At least Gillis got the Canucks somewhere in the post season. Jim Benning just sat there and put the Canucks in cap hell, which still effects the team to this day. Also I believe Vancouver won the Corey Schneider trade because they got Bo Horvat in return
Gillis over Hextall?? Dude made a few questionable decisions, sure. But thats all. Ron Hextall made more bad bad moves in under 2 years than Gillis made in his entire tenure. Granlund, Kapanen, Carter(AND an extension), McCann, Petry, Matheson, Marino, McGinn, I'm sure I'm missing a few....ALL were awful moves
Simply hilarious. 1000+ games played with an ATOI of 21mins. Age 36, he played 25 playoff games during the Pens '17 cup run. 2 goals, 8 points, +5, 21 mins per game. Retired from the NHL at 39.
Mike milbury is unfairly maligned and a deep dive into his GM shows when he had resources he put a good team together with yashin, Peca, Osgood, aucoin, hamerlik, jonsson, brought in an up and coming hot coach in Peter laviolette (his 1st NHL job) milbury wasn't the guy who traded turgeon for Kirk Mueller, was forced by the Milstein/gluckstern owners to pare down team salary to under 20m, had to trade Ziggy, a multiple 40+ goal scorer, as a salary dump. Was holding the fort during the John Spano debacle (bettmans tar baby) before u go ballistic none of luongo, bertuzzi or Chara would have developed into the players they became on the late 90s/early 2000 Islanders, team was operating on a minimal budget, it's scouting/ development staff was very small. They also had no centers basically getting two established NHL centers in yashin (check his numbers out at the time of the trade) + Peca(excellent 2 way centre) added much needed talent. Not that Mike doesn't deserve criticism, he blew the 2000 draft for sure taking RDP & RAFFI TORRES(SCOTT HARTNELL went a pick later) and Inexcusably passed over Zach Parise in the 2003 draft. The instability of the franchise post arbour/Torrey wasn't Mike's fault, ownership and arena issues plagued the organization till they got UBS arena in Belmont..
Scratching my head, not sure how mike gillis is on this list when he achieved more than any of the other gms before and after him for the canucks. Multiple president trophies, one win away from the stanley cup, signing sundin (although overpaid for the contract) took the sedins to another level to which they peaked at 100+ points and back to back art ross. Not to mention how you could bash signing malhotra. 2.5 mill for a faceoff king 3rd line centre man was great value until his freak eye injury...
How do have this list if you not leave out the worst General Manager in Los Angeles Kings history, Sam McMaster the Disaster. He broke up the Kings 1993 Stanley Cup Finalist team, including trading Wayne Gretzky who was in the twilight of his career to St. Louis for 3 players, one had a decent career, while the other 2 didn’t last 3 years on the Kings, and the Draft picks they got never played in the NHL.
Wondering if Bowman is in this? He absolutely should be. He was not the reason for the Hawks' Cup wins, but he is absolutely responsible for gutting the team after that run, and of course covering up the Kyle Beach assault.
Mike Gillis was good. Even if you don’t think he’s good… still miles better than other recent guys such as Chiarelli, Benning, or Fletcher. Ron Hainsey was a very solid defenceman; not great but solid.
Grundman demolished one of the greatest dynasties in hockey history. Bringing the retirement of Sam Pollock and prompting the designated successor Scotty Bowman to leave Montreal to be the GM and coach in Buffalo. They were declining anyway but Grundman precipitated the loss of Jacques Lemaire and Pierre Bouchard and was GM for the retirement of Ken Dryden. He drafted doug wickenheiser ahead of david savard. Worst GM in Canadiens history
Brian Burke has to be one. Mismanaged the cap, draft, and trades. Nonis was any better. Those three guys including Ferguson over a course of about 11 years.....ruined the Leafs for about 15 years.
Burke was pretty good in Vancouver though. He turned the Nucks around and got them 2 Sedins. Made the Nucks into a competitive team. His biggest mistake was Cloutier (or maybe Cloutier cause it himself as he broke down easily in the playoffs). Nonis came after Burke for the Nucks, but was an average to bad GM. He never really did anything that would make or break the Nucks, except for bring in Luongo.
And one of them (Gillis) shouldn't even be on the list. He's like the 2nd (could even challenge for 1st) best GM in Nucks history so the video creator doesn't know what he's talking about (when it comes to Gillis).
No Lou Nanne?!? The only reason he initially turned the North Stars around was because of the merger with the Cleveland Barons. This gave him 2 rosters to choose which players to keep & who to trade off. Yes he drafted Bobby Smith, Brian Bellows, & Mike Modano BUT when he could have picked either Steve Yzerman or Pat LaFontaine; Lou picked Brian Lawton #1 OUCH! Plus his constant coaching changes & trading away his best player at the time in Bobby Smith, sank the North Stars. The Met Center attendance was dwindling long before Norm Green moved them to Dallas. There was once a Sports Illustrated article called "Falling Stars" talking about how bad things had gotten for the North Stars. Lou Nanne received much of the blame.
You mentioned John Ferguson Jr. But Brian Burke who is just a TV personality has to be in the top five. Terrible trades, terrible drafting and signing UFAs to bad contracts that they had to be bought out. Dave Nonis, Burke's minion....another terrible GM. Don't know if one team has hired so many poor GMs consecutively.
I'll admit Rejean Houle was bad, but.. and I may get totally destroyed there because of what I will say, the one the Montreal Canadiens had before him wasn't better either... Serge Savard.. okay he drafted 4 decent guy with his first round picks in some years (Saku Koivu, Andrew Cassels, Petr Svoboda and Shayne Corson) but except those 4 his first round draft picks were close to atrocious... and yes Rejean Houle traded Roy... no... let me reformulate this, he GAVE Roy to the Colorado Avalanche but Savard gave Chris Chelios to the Chicago Blackhawks for Denis Savard who was at the end of his career while Chelios was just starting in the NHL..
Mike Gillis is smart on money (OK, if you exclude Mat Sundin, but work very well on cap control) even though draft record isn't that great (thanks to the scouting team) and he has some innovative ideas (sleep doctors) to improve performance. Especially when you compare to Jim Benning (remember OEL and Louie Eriksson? Also, missed signing on Chris Tanev, Tyler Toffoli, and Troy Stecher?), Dave Nonis (remember Patrick White?) and Mike Keenan (Mark Messier)
3:56 I think Oilers fans were just expecting Sekera to be good. Unfortunately, for a team that free agents or big name players weren't high on back then, they needed to overpay to entice decent players. You're right that the signing was bad long term. But "savior" seems like an overstatement. I don't remember anyone expecting that exactly from Sekera. And yes, Chia set them back a couple of seasons. He was too willing to make risky trades.
The Griffin Reinhart deal was probably his lowest moment. You're at the bottom of the league standings. You should be building up on draft picks, not trading them away for AHL players. The first round pick in the deal was the one the Oilers got from Pittsburgh in the David Perron deal.
@@grahamdamberger7130 Drafting was actually Chia's strongest asset(Bouchard, McLeod, Skinner), he just couldn't balance that with proper trade or sign value. You could also argue that the Oilers already drafted too much talent due to ineptitude and they needed more players who were "ready now or almost ready now" types. Reinhart had familiarity in Edmonton from playing for the Oil Kings in the WHL and was old enough to learn and grow in the NHL after being drafted a few years prior. Does that justify the trade? No, it still wound up being awful. I was excited for the trade at first, but then I was proven wrong. I still may've preferred offering up the pick for immediate help if we could turn back time.
@@funnynerd1 If it makes Griffin feel any better, his older brother Maxwell was drafted by Calgary and he didn't last very long in the NHL either. Their younger brother Sam was the one who inherited their father's NHL skillset (Paul Reinhart).
@@funnynerd1 Draisaith is the only one of the Top 4 picks from the 2014 draft that Florida doesn't have on their roster. They drafted Ekblad first overall and acquired both Reinhart and Bennett in trades.
Gillis and Chiarelli aren't quite among the worst GMs ever. For one, they actually had incredible success, they both built teams that went from out of the playoffs to the Stanley Cup Finals - against each other. Still feel that Gillis' team should have won, but notwithstanding, that run alone would bar them from worst GM all time lists. Yes, they made questionable decisions, but most GMs make similar mistakes - the thing is you never know how players could turn out until after you acquire them.
Anytime anyone opens their mouth about Chiarelli being AGM of the Bruins when they won the Cup in 2011 and uses it to justify his capability as a full-fledged GM, oh man, please stop making me laugh.
With all due respect, I don't think that you can blame it on Rejan Houle for The Patrick Roy Trade, since it was due to Patrick's On Ice Feud/Tirade with Mario Tremblay, the then Head Coach of The Montreal Canadiens, and Demand To Be Traded. I don't think that, in A Situation like that, there could have been much Leverage in A Trade (Similar to Pierre Luc Dubois Wanting Out Of The Winnipeg Jets Now). Let me know what you think
What's wrong with picking Hainsey in the first round? I looked at that draft and he was one of the better players selected in the first round that year
Sabres fan here. Andrej Sekera. Savior of the franchise. No. Really? We couldnt get rid of him fast enough. He was OK , but the Savior idea is stunning. 🙄
You didn't mention John Ferguson Sr. Rangers GM who forced Rod Gilbert to resign, introduced those god-awful shield jersey, and worst of all traded upcoming star Rick Middleton to Boston for a washed up Ken Hodge. Possibly the worst trade in hockey.
And when he was with the Jets, he drafted RW Jimmy Mann with his first-round pick in the most stacked draft in history. Mann's career high in goals? THREE. The next two players drafted were Michel Goulet and Kevin Lowe.
How the hell is Gillis on this? 2 presidents trophies and trip to the finals. Really dumb choice. Jim Benning is horrendous. Traded Dylan Guenther for OEL
I don't know enough GMs in NHL history but I do know CHUCK FLETCHER and what he has done to the Flyers franchise over the past 5 years that will continue to have future adverse ripple effects to boot deserves to be on this list... If not, he deserves at least to be an honorable mention!!! Man, how lucky we are to have Briere compared to that BS GM!!! Geex you can add Ron Hextall to the list as well as his recent firings further confirms his atrocious GM'ing days prior to CHUCK FLETCHER!!! A decade with these 2 as GMs were the worst 10-year span for any franchise of the 4 major sports in Philly... of ALL TIME!!
For starters: RON HEXTALL: - Signed Michal Neuvirth & Brian Elliott - Traded for Petr Mrazek in 2018 - Schenn for Lehtera, who would get busted the following year (granted they got Frost in the trade) - Signing James Van Riemsdyk to 5-year contract - Drafting Nolan Patrick over Cale Makar (yes, Bobby Clarke brought it up) CHUCK FLETCHER: - Extending Ivan Provorov (solid 1st season, declined afterwards, York should have been Ashbee winner last season) - Extending the injury-prone Sean Couturier - Trading for Ryan Ellis - Signing Kevin Hayes - Replaced Matt Niskanen with Erik Gustafsson - Acquired, signed Rasmus Ristolainen - Acquired Anthony DeAngelo - Missing out on the 2023 trade deadline, which ultimately got him fired
@@leafsfanforever2896 Not only extending injury-prone Couts but to EIGHT whole years no less and while Flecth throwing around nonsensical 8 year contracts might as well give Sanheim one of those as well :-///
this isn't the list if jim benning isn't on it. the canucks right now are 3 years away from being 3 years away from contending because of the horrendous deals this clown made.
I’m a oilers fan. And too be fair to Chiarelli that Draisaitl contract is looking like an absolute steal, the Maroon trade, chaisson signing and talbot trade also did work out. None of them lasted yes but some trades don’t They were still great trades at the time. Point being at least he had some good trades 😂
Ain't seen the clip yet, but as Montréal canadiens hardcore fan since '84, I couldn't agree more with the assessment besides Peanut Moron Houle: his reign as GM in Montréal pushed us back in Dark Ages...
Houle was one of a disastrous run of Habs GMs starting with Irving Grundman and ending with Bergevin(except for Serge Savard). But Houle's ineptitude in terms of trades and his hiring of Mario Tremblay as HC highlighted the era. Hopefully he will be the benchmark for the fallacy of hiring GMs solely based being former players.
The morning following the incident, Roy went to see Corey, offer excuses, and said he didn't want to leave the team. Corey answered that Roy himself had forced his hand by saying it loud enough for people around Corey to hear it, and now had no choice but to trade him... :(
Serge Savard was the GM that traded John Leclair and Eric Desjardins to Philly. As bad as Houle was (and he was the worst of all GMs) he wasn't the genius behind that trade. That was Savard's blunder.
5 cups in 7 years, including one without Gretzky. In that case i would rather list 94' rangers. Yes won a cup but shattered a young talented team in the process. They have been a loosing franchise ever since. Except for a couple of seasons thanks to Lundqvist standing on his head.
I respect houle as a player but as a GM That Guy destroy the habs just imagine a sec what if he find a way to keep roy,kean,damphouse,recchi,turgeon, carbonneau with MTL i mean the team would have bean great also he hire mario Tremblay as a coach and it turn out to be not really great 😅 in is defence as great Serge Savard was in the 80’s and early 90’s the desjardin trade was the beginning of the dark age for the habs after that nothing was the same
Mike Milbury wasn't as bad as everyone says he was. He made mistakes, but he's not in the top 5 worst GMs in history. He was running a Mickey Mouse franchise with who as the owner?!? Gimmie a break.
Ron Hextall better be on this list .. Or l will be disappointed!! And lm a Flyers fan and Ken Holland has been terrible since the salary cap days came in
Mike Gillis was a fantastic GM. Back to back Presidents trophies, game 7 of the finals. The Brown and McIver trades had no impact on the organization good or bad, what stupid examples to use. And Keith Ballard was not part of the Hodgson trade. Great job with your research there. You’ve lost a viewer permanently with this piss poor assessment. Try again.
First time watching on of your videos and I have to say that I feel like you lost a lot of credibility with the Gillis pick. Forget not being one of the worst GMs, he isn't even the worst GM that the Canucks have ever had.
@@leafsfanforever2896 Habs lost two 1 goal games where Price could easily have been the difference. Tokarski played well but implying Price wouldn't have made a difference is laughable.
Gillis is like the 2nd best GM in Nucks history and you ranked him as one of the worst NHL GMs because of his 1 year? You didn't know the guy that came after him was a much worse GM than Gillis? Benning made way way more awful moves, compared with Gillis, and on a consistent basis. Gillis saw his mistakes for trying to turn the Nucks into the Bruins after their cup loss. He then wanted a complete rebuild for the Nucks, but the owner fired him and didn't give him a 2nd chance after missing just 1 playoffs. For putting Gillis on this list, your video deserves a big dislike due to horrendous inaccuracies.
Not a great list for the worst in "NHL History". Recent history, at least most are arguable, but all time this list is just poorly researched and a terrible take. There have been many, many worse gm's if you're talking all of nhl history, and you've failed to note the many extenuating circumstances that caused some of these decisions. clickbait crap.
The FISHSTIX franchise caught lightning in a bottle 40 plus years ago & has been a cruel joke ever since : nobody says “ I want to play on Long Island “ ……. No one
Did you do any research on the Canucks? Gillis isn't even bottom 2 worst GMs for the Canucks.
No kidding! Gillis is all time bad? No mention of the Keenan era in Vancouver…or for something more recent…Jim Benning maybe?
gillis is on the record saying after 2012 our good friend aquaman started meddling
@@vwharman Jim Benning I believe was with the Canucks longer as GM than his last predecessor. That said, the Canucks only have two playoff series wins following their 2011 trip to a Stanley Cup final.
@@vwharman yes Keenan was the worst of the worst...but he was GM for only 5 months, so perhaps this ranking considers length of tenure. Having a somewhat bad GM for 5 years could do more damage to an organization than having an absolute evil GM for 5 months. His 2 years as GM in St Louis though has to be on this list.
@@lakeeriesailor2852 Keenan is also a terrible human being.
Jim Benning should definitely be on your list.
Horrible free agent signings: Loui Eriksson
Horrible drafting: Ollie Juolevi, Jake Virtanen
Horrible trades: Connor Garland, OEL and his anchor contract for 3 EXPIRING contracts, Loui Eriksson, Jay Beagle, Antione Roussel and 2nd round and 1st round pick (Dylan Gunther)
You missed Mike Keenan twice. Once for St Louis and again with Vancouver
Decent coach with I industrial size ego😭😂
Mike Keenan when he was GM (and coach) in St Louis. He absolutely ran that team into the ground with asinine player moves. And Gary McNamara when he was GM of the leafs during those horrible teams of the 1980s.
Gillis is on here but not Benning? What 🤦🏼
Milbury's worst move was actually a combination. Two years after drafting Roberto Luongo 4th overall and declaring Luongo to be the Islanders' "goalie of the future", and after a handful of games with the Islanders proved to Milbury that Luongo "didn't have it", he traded Luongo & Olli Jokinen to Florida for complete dud Oleg Kvasha & decent but injury prone Mark Parrish, then drafted Rick DiPietro with the #1 overall pick, ahead of Dany Heatley & Marion Gaborik. He completed this parlay by trading the Islanders only other experienced goalie, Kevin Weekes, leaving himself with no goalie for the upcoming season, because DiPietro was going back to college for one more year, LOL.
I forgot about that lol
😭😂😂😭😀😃!!!!!!!!
Man if he played his cards right he could have had
Luongo
Gaborik or Heatley
Jokinen
Chara
Spezza
.... Probably some other notable names
Milbury is the worst by far.
dont forget he got Yashin from Ottawa for Chara and a pick that would turn into Jason Spezza
I'd like to nominate Stan Bowman with the Blackhawks as an honorable mention. Not only because he didn't inform ownership about what happened to Kyle Beach, but how he had totally mismanaged the Hawks roster after 2015, like trading Teuvo Teravainen, and making bad contracts.
The sex scandal is hard to compare with just having terrible hockey sense.
@@stevencooke6451 Of course.
A lot of that scandal falls on Beach himself,end of story!
Though to be fair, most of the hockey ops moves was due to cap concerns
In defense of Mike Gillis we later found out them last moves in that year he made was being forced by Owner Francesco Aquillini to keep that aging core competitive and keep trying to make the playoffs! This organization has been in shambles since he took over ownership of the team! He would not approve a rebuild to any of his GMs even though Mike Gillis told him many times that a rebuild has to happen! That's when he pulled the trigger on the bo horvat trade and pissed off Francesco, All Canucks fans currently hate Fancesco Aquillini
Amen to this reply
For Whalers fans, honorable mention to Ed Johnston for trading away Mike Liut, Kevin Dineeen then packaging Ron Francis and Ulf Samuelson to the Penguins
Showing how bad a GM Milbury was, during the Stanley cup finals years ago when Luongo was in goal for the Canucks, Milbury stated that having a goaltender of Luongos talent was why they would win the Stanley Cup. To which Pierre Mcquire responded, “so, why did you trade him and take Dipietro in the draft?”. Typical Milbury answer was “Ummmmm, errrrr”. Lol
About Milbury, he was a risk taker. If DiPietro actually lived up to his billing, he would have been an upgrade over Luongo. If Yashin still had the will to play like he did, he would have made them a bonafide force.
mike gillis top 5 worst GMs?? seriously?? he only led the canucks to back to back presidents trophies and a cup final appearance. the canucks had their most successful era under his watch. this is a joke.
That's a pretty pathetic pick, if you must pick a Canucks GM Benning was much much worse
Gillis did nothing in Vancouver. The president’s trophies were under Burke not Gillis
@@alecedgeworth2814 the core was drafted by Burke, Nonis added Luongo then was fired a year later when the nucks missed the playoffs, Gillis added hamhuis, erhoff, and Malhotra who was pillar on the 3rd centre ( and would of been for years if it wasn't for a freak accident)
@@ianli1830 Gillis didn’t add hammy that was Nonnis and Malhotra Wasn’t that good of a player at the best of times
Remember how we saw Stan Bowman as a genius GM while Hawks managed 3 cups in five years? Without realizing the core was actually brought in by Dave Tallon?
Now we don't look at Bowman as a genius anymore.. truth will out..
And Gillis was made to look better than he was. Personally I think he was too generous. Those mentioned trades weren't that bad. None of the players were household names, Bernier perhaps the only one on a regular base on a NHL roster.
But boy did he give up too much money for some guys.
I'd say you can't blame the GM for Roy trade since he refused to play after the head coach didn't pull him out of the game and forced him to stay in the net. GM doesn't make those decisions about who stays in the net during the game.
He hired the coach that kept him in the game though. Butterfly effect
Go read up on the incident. It's far from that simple.
@@thepurestguava My bad. I didn't know that it was that coach's first game in charge and that the GM told to keep Roy in the net whatever the cost.
It makes me sad for Houle because unlike a guy like Milbury, he is one of the nicest person you'll ever meet. He was put in a very bad situation and he did not have the skills to do the job.
Will Dubas be part of this video in 10 years
Houle ,great guy,and player,use to blanket,Bobby Hull,when the Habs played the Blackhawks!
@@tomfilipiak3511 Let this thread be dedicated to appreciating Rejean Houle. He does not deserve an once of hate.
Diyanno,people should keep their mouths shut,instead of saying,ill,words about a wonderful man! Watched Houle play many a game at the old Chicago,the guy had Class!End of story!
@@tomfilipiak3511 amen
gillis should definitely not be on here cause the early 2010s was like the most successful era of canucks hockey ever with 1 win short of a cup and back to back presidents trophies. Only 1 other team in the 2010s decade had back to back presidents trophies. And chiarelli isn't entirely bad. His tenure in Edmonton yes was awful but in Boston he led the Bruins to their first stanley cup in nearly 40 years and they did come 2 wins short in 2013 as well and also got the presidents trophy in 2014.
Brian Burke and Dave Nonis built that 2011 Canucks team (Nonis would later succeed Burke as TOR GM)
Gillis definitely doesn't belong on this list, but Canucks fans have no toleration for failure. Losing the Cup, especially if you were the favourite, that's as bad as not making the playoffs. They threw the entire team under the bus.
you can say that again with those riots lol🤣 @@broadstreet21
@@ethanparker7900 Yeah, well for Vancouver, losing the Cup was like a bride ditching the groom right at the altar literally as she's about to give her vows, runs off with someone who just crashed the wedding.
It's a team that had years of frustration, overcame setbacks to run into further brick walls. When they are ready to contend for a Cup, someone overshadows them and blocks it away. The 2011 team was their best chance to win. Unlike 1982 and 1994, this time, they were the favourite, and it couldn't have come at a better time. They just vanquished the deeply hated Blackhawks, they hosted the Olympics the year before, their star player led team Canada to gold, and they were set to meet Prince William and Princess Kate with the Cup on Canada Day (if they won). There was too much riding on this, it just, well you know, was scripted to have them hoist it.
yes that 2011 run was quite entertaining and their only real chance. And they sure did have their share of torment beforehand especially with chicago in round 2 in both 2009 and 2010 and finally getting their revenge against them in the first round in 2011 albeit barely cause they had a 3-0 lead in the series at one point then the defending champion blackhawks clawed their way back to force a game 7 which would go into OT and Alex Burrows sealing the deal. If the blackhawks were to have won game 7 in OT instead of the Canucks it would've been one of the biggest letdowns inot jsut in the 2010s decade but in league history altogether since the hawks barely made the playoffs that year as the 2nd wild card 8th seed and the canucks were the presidents trophy winners and people in the canucks organization like Alain Vigenault, Rick Bowness, Mike Gillis, etc would've been on the verge of losing their jobs so the entire organization and their fans really dodged a bullet there narrowly avoiding an epic collapse. Round 2 against Nashville was pretty hard fought too going in six then they breezed by San Jose like nothing and the final against the 3rd seeded Bruins the did have a lead in the series on 2 seperate occassions with a 2-0 lead at one point then the bruins fighting back to tie it at 2 then the canucks won game 5 to take a 3-2 lead going into game 6 giving them a chance to end it and win it in game 6 but the bruins would win forcing a game 7 which they won as well completing the upset.
I obviously was rooting for boston in the final so I don't care much ab the canucks coughing up those leads tbh. I was rooting for the hawks in round 1 and the canucks won fair and square and good for the fans to finally get peace and chicago ofc won another cup just 2 yrs later in the lockout yr so whatever. I was rooting for the predators in round 2 personally but I knew the canucks were gonna win deep down given how resilient they were against chicago. I did root for the canucks over the sharks though in round 3. I was never much of a canucks fan but I sure did respect them hell out of them in the early 2010s and the sedin twins were 2 of my biggest idols growing up. Kesler, Burrows, Luongo, Hamhuis, Raymond, Vigenault, Bowness, etc too I respect the hell out of them! And god bless Rick Rypien🙏 Im sure losing game 7 of final had a little bit to do with his suicide besides the depression and PCS🧠🙏@@broadstreet21
Modern day examples include, but are not limited to:
- Peter Chiarelli (Boston Bruins) (later days)
- Tim Murray (Buffalo Sabres) (signed Kyle Okposo)
- Jason Botterill (Buffalo Sabres) (signed Jeff Skinner to an 8-year extension which did not work out. It got better after Don Granato took over as head coach)
- Stan Bowman (Chicago Blackhawks) (traded away several key Cup-winning players for cap reasons, then became embroiled in s** assault scandal)
- Garth Snow (New York Islanders) (15-year Rick DiPietro contract handed out days after Milbury’s firing)
- Jeff Gorton (New York Rangers) (drafted Lias Andersson, Vitali Kravtsov, Kaapo Kakko, Alexis Lafreniere)
- Pierre Dorion (Ottawa Senators) (traded away Erik Karlsson, Mike Hoffman, Mark Stone, acquired Matt Duchene literally the season after coming within one goal of the SCF)
- Ron Hextall & Chuck Fletcher (Philadelphia Flyers) (drafted Nolan Patrick over Cale Makar in 2017, clearly lampshaded by Bobby Clarke later on, signed JVR to monster contract, signed Provy to expensive contract, took gamble on Hart which eventually paid pff, failed to trade JVR at trade deadline)
- Kyle Dubas (Toronto Maple Leafs) (way too expensive contract to John Tavares greatly hampering their ability to acquire depth)
- Jim Benning (Vancouver Canucks) (signed Loui Eriksson to 6-year contract, drafted Olli Juolevi)
You had a Picture of Freddie Andersen up not Raycroft btw
Houle was a disaster, though Irving Grundman might have been even worse. He managed to fully dismantle the late 1970s dynasty replacing genius Sam Pollack and pissing off Jacques Lemaire and Scotty Bowman.
However, the trades you've mentioned do remind me that it is a tough call. Letting Leclair and Desjardins go was unforgivable. And I don't want to think about the Roy trade.
Actually, the dynasty was done in by the retirement of Yvan Cournoyer, Jacques Lemaire, Ken Dryden and coach Scotty Bowman.
Where Grundman f***** up the most was in drafting Doug wickenheiser-- uggh-- over Dennis Savard
... in history ? You forget Ned Harkness of Red Wings. Also, vengeful Jack Adams trading away Lindsay, Sawczuk, Prystai, Bucyk, Glenn Hall, Red Kelly were all poor moves.
No chance mike gillis was worse then jim benning are you nuts
Jim Benning was far worse for the Canucks. At least Gillis got the Canucks somewhere in the post season. Jim Benning just sat there and put the Canucks in cap hell, which still effects the team to this day.
Also I believe Vancouver won the Corey Schneider trade because they got Bo Horvat in return
Keenan was far worse as Canucks GM too...but his short time as GM (5 months) prevented him from doing damage beyond running Linden out of town.
Gillis over Hextall??
Dude made a few questionable decisions, sure. But thats all. Ron Hextall made more bad bad moves in under 2 years than Gillis made in his entire tenure.
Granlund, Kapanen, Carter(AND an extension), McCann, Petry, Matheson, Marino, McGinn, I'm sure I'm missing a few....ALL were awful moves
Hextall (and his successor in PHI, Chuck Fletcher) made plenty of bad moves with the Flyers
@leafsfanforever2896 that's my point. He was a failure BEFORE he got to Pittsburgh.... his time there just made it even worse lol.
did u really just call ron hainsey a bust he was a 2nd pairing dman for a large part of his career thats not a bad first round pick
Simply hilarious.
1000+ games played with an ATOI of 21mins.
Age 36, he played 25 playoff games during the Pens '17 cup run. 2 goals, 8 points, +5, 21 mins per game.
Retired from the NHL at 39.
I remember him on the leafs late in his career and he was still playing reasonably well. Better than Phaneuf
Mike milbury is unfairly maligned and a deep dive into his GM shows when he had resources he put a good team together with yashin, Peca, Osgood, aucoin, hamerlik, jonsson, brought in an up and coming hot coach in Peter laviolette (his 1st NHL job) milbury wasn't the guy who traded turgeon for Kirk Mueller, was forced by the Milstein/gluckstern owners to pare down team salary to under 20m, had to trade Ziggy, a multiple 40+ goal scorer, as a salary dump. Was holding the fort during the John Spano debacle (bettmans tar baby) before u go ballistic none of luongo, bertuzzi or Chara would have developed into the players they became on the late 90s/early 2000 Islanders, team was operating on a minimal budget, it's scouting/ development staff was very small. They also had no centers basically getting two established NHL centers in yashin (check his numbers out at the time of the trade) + Peca(excellent 2 way centre) added much needed talent. Not that Mike doesn't deserve criticism, he blew the 2000 draft for sure taking RDP & RAFFI TORRES(SCOTT HARTNELL went a pick later) and Inexcusably passed over Zach Parise in the 2003 draft. The instability of the franchise post arbour/Torrey wasn't Mike's fault, ownership and arena issues plagued the organization till they got UBS arena in Belmont..
Scratching my head, not sure how mike gillis is on this list when he achieved more than any of the other gms before and after him for the canucks. Multiple president trophies, one win away from the stanley cup, signing sundin (although overpaid for the contract) took the sedins to another level to which they peaked at 100+ points and back to back art ross. Not to mention how you could bash signing malhotra. 2.5 mill for a faceoff king 3rd line centre man was great value until his freak eye injury...
How do have this list if you not leave out the worst General Manager in Los Angeles Kings history, Sam McMaster the Disaster. He broke up the Kings 1993 Stanley Cup Finalist team, including trading Wayne Gretzky who was in the twilight of his career to St. Louis for 3 players, one had a decent career, while the other 2 didn’t last 3 years on the Kings, and the Draft picks they got never played in the NHL.
Not to mention trading Zhitnik for Fuhr (with other players thrown in on both sides).
Wondering if Bowman is in this? He absolutely should be. He was not the reason for the Hawks' Cup wins, but he is absolutely responsible for gutting the team after that run, and of course covering up the Kyle Beach assault.
Nowadays such a similar scandal would result in a forfeit in the SCF or a cancellation of the series and no winner declared
Mike Gillis was good. Even if you don’t think he’s good… still miles better than other recent guys such as Chiarelli, Benning, or Fletcher.
Ron Hainsey was a very solid defenceman; not great but solid.
Grundman demolished one of the greatest dynasties in hockey history. Bringing the retirement of Sam Pollock and prompting the designated successor Scotty Bowman to leave Montreal to be the GM and coach in Buffalo. They were declining anyway but Grundman precipitated the loss of Jacques Lemaire and Pierre Bouchard and was GM for the retirement of Ken Dryden. He drafted doug wickenheiser ahead of david savard. Worst GM in Canadiens history
I think it’s Denis Savard you wanted to write
@@smilebob100 Good Point. I'd probably take Wickenheiser over David Savard.
Yes Denis.
Brian Burke has to be one. Mismanaged the cap, draft, and trades. Nonis was any better. Those three guys including Ferguson over a course of about 11 years.....ruined the Leafs for about 15 years.
Burke was pretty good in Vancouver though. He turned the Nucks around and got them 2 Sedins. Made the Nucks into a competitive team. His biggest mistake was Cloutier (or maybe Cloutier cause it himself as he broke down easily in the playoffs). Nonis came after Burke for the Nucks, but was an average to bad GM. He never really did anything that would make or break the Nucks, except for bring in Luongo.
Out of the five on this list, four were GMs for Canadian teams. Depressing.
And one of them (Gillis) shouldn't even be on the list. He's like the 2nd (could even challenge for 1st) best GM in Nucks history so the video creator doesn't know what he's talking about (when it comes to Gillis).
I expected Jim Benning to be here.
No Lou Nanne?!? The only reason he initially turned the North Stars around was because of the merger with the Cleveland Barons. This gave him 2 rosters to choose which players to keep & who to trade off. Yes he drafted Bobby Smith, Brian Bellows, & Mike Modano BUT when he could have picked either Steve Yzerman or Pat LaFontaine; Lou picked Brian Lawton #1 OUCH!
Plus his constant coaching changes & trading away his best player at the time in Bobby Smith, sank the North Stars. The Met Center attendance was dwindling long before Norm Green moved them to Dallas. There was once a Sports Illustrated article called "Falling Stars" talking about how bad things had gotten for the North Stars. Lou Nanne received much of the blame.
You mentioned John Ferguson Jr. But Brian Burke who is just a TV personality has to be in the top five. Terrible trades, terrible drafting and signing UFAs to bad contracts that they had to be bought out. Dave Nonis, Burke's minion....another terrible GM. Don't know if one team has hired so many poor GMs consecutively.
I'll admit Rejean Houle was bad, but.. and I may get totally destroyed there because of what I will say, the one the Montreal Canadiens had before him wasn't better either... Serge Savard.. okay he drafted 4 decent guy with his first round picks in some years (Saku Koivu, Andrew Cassels, Petr Svoboda and Shayne Corson) but except those 4 his first round draft picks were close to atrocious... and yes Rejean Houle traded Roy... no... let me reformulate this, he GAVE Roy to the Colorado Avalanche but Savard gave Chris Chelios to the Chicago Blackhawks for Denis Savard who was at the end of his career while Chelios was just starting in the NHL..
Mike Gillis is smart on money (OK, if you exclude Mat Sundin, but work very well on cap control) even though draft record isn't that great (thanks to the scouting team) and he has some innovative ideas (sleep doctors) to improve performance. Especially when you compare to Jim Benning (remember OEL and Louie Eriksson? Also, missed signing on Chris Tanev, Tyler Toffoli, and Troy Stecher?), Dave Nonis (remember Patrick White?) and Mike Keenan (Mark Messier)
3:56 I think Oilers fans were just expecting Sekera to be good. Unfortunately, for a team that free agents or big name players weren't high on back then, they needed to overpay to entice decent players. You're right that the signing was bad long term. But "savior" seems like an overstatement. I don't remember anyone expecting that exactly from Sekera. And yes, Chia set them back a couple of seasons. He was too willing to make risky trades.
The Griffin Reinhart deal was probably his lowest moment. You're at the bottom of the league standings. You should be building up on draft picks, not trading them away for AHL players. The first round pick in the deal was the one the Oilers got from Pittsburgh in the David Perron deal.
@@grahamdamberger7130 Drafting was actually Chia's strongest asset(Bouchard, McLeod, Skinner), he just couldn't balance that with proper trade or sign value. You could also argue that the Oilers already drafted too much talent due to ineptitude and they needed more players who were "ready now or almost ready now" types. Reinhart had familiarity in Edmonton from playing for the Oil Kings in the WHL and was old enough to learn and grow in the NHL after being drafted a few years prior. Does that justify the trade? No, it still wound up being awful. I was excited for the trade at first, but then I was proven wrong. I still may've preferred offering up the pick for immediate help if we could turn back time.
@@funnynerd1 If it makes Griffin feel any better, his older brother Maxwell was drafted by Calgary and he didn't last very long in the NHL either. Their younger brother Sam was the one who inherited their father's NHL skillset (Paul Reinhart).
@@grahamdamberger7130 Though I'm still glad Sam was picked 2nd instead of Draisaitl, I agree he is a stud.
@@funnynerd1 Draisaith is the only one of the Top 4 picks from the 2014 draft that Florida doesn't have on their roster. They drafted Ekblad first overall and acquired both Reinhart and Bennett in trades.
Chiarelli was also terrible with the Bruins as well for his horrible trade deals. How he lucked into a Cup I'll never know.
I blame Mario Tremblay for Roy’s departure from MTL, but the rest of that horseshit is all on Houle.
Gillis and Chiarelli aren't quite among the worst GMs ever. For one, they actually had incredible success, they both built teams that went from out of the playoffs to the Stanley Cup Finals - against each other. Still feel that Gillis' team should have won, but notwithstanding, that run alone would bar them from worst GM all time lists. Yes, they made questionable decisions, but most GMs make similar mistakes - the thing is you never know how players could turn out until after you acquire them.
Anytime anyone opens their mouth about Chiarelli being AGM of the Bruins when they won the Cup in 2011 and uses it to justify his capability as a full-fledged GM, oh man, please stop making me laugh.
Why do you have Ryan Kesler's picture there when you mention Ryan Parent? Also, why would you put Mike Gillis there but give Jim Benning a pass? Why?
With all due respect, I don't think that you can blame it on Rejan Houle for The Patrick Roy Trade, since it was due to Patrick's On Ice Feud/Tirade with Mario Tremblay, the then Head Coach of The Montreal Canadiens, and Demand To Be Traded. I don't think that, in A Situation like that, there could have been much Leverage in A Trade (Similar to Pierre Luc Dubois Wanting Out Of The Winnipeg Jets Now). Let me know what you think
He did hire Tremblay so...
@@bjornalm9950 Yeah. That did enter my mind, but, I didn't want to clog up space. Thanks for clarifying it for me
Roy,ego as big as Trump!
0:58 Since when did Freddie Andersen become Andrew Raycroft?
2019-20
There is no way Jim benning isn’t on this list
What's wrong with picking Hainsey in the first round? I looked at that draft and he was one of the better players selected in the first round that year
Peter fuggin' Chiarelli
Sabres fan here.
Andrej Sekera.
Savior of the franchise.
No. Really?
We couldnt get rid of him fast enough. He was OK , but the Savior idea is stunning.
🙄
Never forget Tom Rowe's legendary failure as the Panther's GM in 2016
at 5:33.... should that be titled Director of Hockey Oooops.?😂
I can't even watch the part about Houle. He screwed the team over twice
Gainey encore bien pire! Scott Gomez??? Sans compter la multitude de mauvais choix de repêchage...
@@saabsly1 Gainey drafted Price, Subban, Patches and McDonagh. Fischer LeBlanc and Chipchura were misses. Not great, not awful.
1:22 - oof, he really shoulda stuck to Nascar, I hear he was pretty good at that
Houle arrived in an empty club. Nothing in the franchises. Savard destroy the future of the club…not Houle
You didn't mention John Ferguson Sr. Rangers GM who forced Rod Gilbert to resign, introduced those god-awful shield jersey, and worst of all traded upcoming star Rick Middleton to Boston for a washed up Ken Hodge. Possibly the worst trade in hockey.
And when he was with the Jets, he drafted RW Jimmy Mann with his first-round pick in the most stacked draft in history. Mann's career high in goals? THREE.
The next two players drafted were Michel Goulet and Kevin Lowe.
You forgot the Rick DiPietro contract from mike milbury
That wasn't Milbury.
That was Garth Snow, who revived his reputation later on thanks to the drafting of Tavares, before nosediving again
Swap out Gillis for Jim Benning. Jimbo to this date even after he has been fired, is still hurting the Canucks with his mismanagement
How the hell is Gillis on this? 2 presidents trophies and trip to the finals. Really dumb choice. Jim Benning is horrendous. Traded Dylan Guenther for OEL
I don't know enough GMs in NHL history but I do know CHUCK FLETCHER and what he has done to the Flyers franchise over the past 5 years that will continue to have future adverse ripple effects to boot deserves to be on this list... If not, he deserves at least to be an honorable mention!!! Man, how lucky we are to have Briere compared to that BS GM!!! Geex you can add Ron Hextall to the list as well as his recent firings further confirms his atrocious GM'ing days prior to CHUCK FLETCHER!!! A decade with these 2 as GMs were the worst 10-year span for any franchise of the 4 major sports in Philly... of ALL TIME!!
For starters:
RON HEXTALL:
- Signed Michal Neuvirth & Brian Elliott
- Traded for Petr Mrazek in 2018
- Schenn for Lehtera, who would get busted the following year (granted they got Frost in the trade)
- Signing James Van Riemsdyk to 5-year contract
- Drafting Nolan Patrick over Cale Makar (yes, Bobby Clarke brought it up)
CHUCK FLETCHER:
- Extending Ivan Provorov (solid 1st season, declined afterwards, York should have been Ashbee winner last season)
- Extending the injury-prone Sean Couturier
- Trading for Ryan Ellis
- Signing Kevin Hayes
- Replaced Matt Niskanen with Erik Gustafsson
- Acquired, signed Rasmus Ristolainen
- Acquired Anthony DeAngelo
- Missing out on the 2023 trade deadline, which ultimately got him fired
@@leafsfanforever2896 Not only extending injury-prone Couts but to EIGHT whole years no less and while Flecth throwing around nonsensical 8 year contracts might as well give Sanheim one of those as well :-///
@@aqn1976 even though Sanheim was better than Provorov
Basing contracts off such a very small sample size is a very common mistake
Glen slather without a doubt...
Doug Wilson for the Sharks only once in the Stanley cup. Fired several coaches that won the Cup with their new teams
@@kevinbadger8030 Minor correction, David Quinn was hired by GMMG, not DW.
this isn't the list if jim benning isn't on it. the canucks right now are 3 years away from being 3 years away from contending because of the horrendous deals this clown made.
Gillis and not Benning? Ridiculous.
I’m a oilers fan. And too be fair to Chiarelli that Draisaitl contract is looking like an absolute steal, the Maroon trade, chaisson signing and talbot trade also did work out. None of them lasted yes but some trades don’t They were still great trades at the time. Point being at least he had some good trades 😂
And you also forgot to mention the infamous. Hall for Larsson trade. And the Reinhart for a 1st who ended being Mat Barzal 😬
Ain't seen the clip yet, but as Montréal canadiens hardcore fan since '84, I couldn't agree more with the assessment besides Peanut Moron Houle: his reign as GM in Montréal pushed us back in Dark Ages...
Rejean Houle was the absolute worst by far. No competition for that title.
What about the intelligent Edmontonians that destroyed the Oilers dynasty? Who gets the credit for that?
The only good thing Rejean Houle did was drafting Andrei Markov.
Maybe just maybe the stupidy of Leafs gm's are correlated to the unreal expectations of the Toronto media. Just a theory ....
The nice part about Mike Milbury's tenure is that despite his failings as a GM, he went on to be an insufferable prick on TV for many years after.
Cue role-ending misogynistic comment on live TV
Houle was one of a disastrous run of Habs GMs starting with Irving Grundman and ending with Bergevin(except for Serge Savard).
But Houle's ineptitude in terms of trades and his hiring of Mario Tremblay as HC highlighted the era.
Hopefully he will be the benchmark for the fallacy of hiring GMs solely based being former players.
I mean, how much can you blame the GM for the Roy trade? Roy forced the team's hand.
The morning following the incident, Roy went to see Corey, offer excuses, and said he didn't want to leave the team.
Corey answered that Roy himself had forced his hand by saying it loud enough for people around Corey to hear it, and now had no choice but to trade him... :(
he could've jsut fired the coach instead, it was public knowledge that both of them hated their guts, even as teamates
@@what_s_that_question_mark That's kind of dumb. An earlier era of Canadiens management wouldn't have succumbed to such thinking.
@@what_s_that_question_mark no way, he could have just fired Tremblay. He was a terrible coach but Houle didn’t want to fire his buddy.
Oh boy, you have no idea, do you?
I'd have to put Tim Murray right up there.
Chuck Fletcher waves hello.
Houle destroyed the Habs. Had great help from trempley.
Serge Savard was the GM that traded John Leclair and Eric Desjardins to Philly. As bad as Houle was (and he was the worst of all GMs) he wasn't the genius behind that trade. That was Savard's blunder.
Yes, that's right. I was just going to post that, but you beat me by two minutes.
Yes but Houle traded Recchi back to Philly for Zubrus.
Trading Gretsky is possibly the worst move in the history of the game, yet that Oilers gm isn't on the list? 😊
5 cups in 7 years, including one without Gretzky. In that case i would rather list 94' rangers. Yes won a cup but shattered a young talented team in the process. They have been a loosing franchise ever since. Except for a couple of seasons thanks to Lundqvist standing on his head.
during the leafs segment i stopped watching because a lot of the pictures were wrong
I respect houle as a player but as a GM That Guy destroy the habs just imagine a sec what if he find a way to keep roy,kean,damphouse,recchi,turgeon, carbonneau with MTL i mean the team would have bean great also he hire mario Tremblay as a coach and it turn out to be not really great 😅 in is defence as great Serge Savard was in the 80’s and early 90’s the desjardin trade was the beginning of the dark age for the habs after that nothing was the same
Mike Milbury wasn't as bad as everyone says he was. He made mistakes, but he's not in the top 5 worst GMs in history. He was running a Mickey Mouse franchise with who as the owner?!? Gimmie a break.
Ron Hextall better be on this list .. Or l will be disappointed!! And lm a Flyers fan and Ken Holland has been terrible since the salary cap days came in
Mike Gillis was a fantastic GM. Back to back Presidents trophies, game 7 of the finals. The Brown and McIver trades had no impact on the organization good or bad, what stupid examples to use. And Keith Ballard was not part of the Hodgson trade. Great job with your research there. You’ve lost a viewer permanently with this piss poor assessment. Try again.
First time watching on of your videos and I have to say that I feel like you lost a lot of credibility with the Gillis pick. Forget not being one of the worst GMs, he isn't even the worst GM that the Canucks have ever had.
Where is Marc Bergevin ?
He made some great moves
@@ellaella5537 My favorite one was when he threw the puck into his own net.
Not terrible. If Price isn't hurt, MTL probably beats NYR. That'd be two cup finals.
@@RandomPlaceHolderNamegoaltending was not exactly an issue in 2014; Tokarski held his own but Montreal could not score
@@leafsfanforever2896 Habs lost two 1 goal games where Price could easily have been the difference. Tokarski played well but implying Price wouldn't have made a difference is laughable.
Gillis is like the 2nd best GM in Nucks history and you ranked him as one of the worst NHL GMs because of his 1 year? You didn't know the guy that came after him was a much worse GM than Gillis? Benning made way way more awful moves, compared with Gillis, and on a consistent basis. Gillis saw his mistakes for trying to turn the Nucks into the Bruins after their cup loss. He then wanted a complete rebuild for the Nucks, but the owner fired him and didn't give him a 2nd chance after missing just 1 playoffs.
For putting Gillis on this list, your video deserves a big dislike due to horrendous inaccuracies.
Anyone who was GM of the California Golden Seals.
Yeah Ra’s Al Ghul was terrible for the Canadiens
Milbury should be No. 1
No Gainey?? Were still paying 4 his debacles . Carey 🤣 🤣 🤣 poor hab fans
HAVE YOU NOT HEARD OF JIM BENNING?
Sweeney is definitely 1 and I’m a leafs fan
i forgot about houle,yea he was terrible.
Doug Riseborough?
Houle set the Habs back years.Between him and Tremplay, I can’t stand either of them.
Stan bowman
Stan bowman
Stan bowman
Stan bowman
And Stan bowman.
Hextall x 2
Not a great list for the worst in "NHL History". Recent history, at least most are arguable, but all time this list is just poorly researched and a terrible take. There have been many, many worse gm's if you're talking all of nhl history, and you've failed to note the many extenuating circumstances that caused some of these decisions. clickbait crap.
Floyd Smith
Pierre dorian?
Houle was a disaster along with the coach
The FISHSTIX franchise caught lightning in a bottle 40 plus years ago & has been a cruel joke ever since : nobody says “ I want to play on Long Island “ ……. No one
Chris Drury belongs on this list