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I own a Model S 90D (Nov 2015; 325,000 KMs). Got an email from Tesla that the fuse of the main battery had to be replaced. Brought it into the Lisbon Tesla service center. They broke a bolt of the fuse box. Out of an abundance of caution Tesla replaced my complete battery for free after 8.5 years and over 200k miles. That’s what I call customer service.
And I will BET you are the ORIGINAL OWNER!!!! Show me a story of them doing that for the poor schmuck who bought a resale.
@@capnkirk5528
👋 I'm a poor schmuck who just a bought a 2016 S 90D on resale, and had a complete battery pack replaced (free!) under warranty 🤗
@@capnkirk5528who hurt you? 😂😂😂
@@TheDrew718 Automobile dealers? (Specifically Ford, but ALL of them ...).
I have seen absolutely NO EVIDENCE that Tesla will care about the second owner.
NONE. NADA. ZILCH.
And it's not in Elon's DNA, either.
If you have credible sources, please share.
I am surprised. In the US they usually give you a remanufactured battery.
Bought a 2016 (new nose) S 90D with 100k miles in January for $16,500 after $4k rebate. In April Tesla replaced the entire battery pack under warranty, so I spent $1,800 to bring the car up to latest FSD / Entertainment specs (both screens, etc).
Aside from the dual motors, I now have an almost new Model S with Premium Sound, 0 to 60 in 4.2, absolute thrill to drive, for $18,300. I'm a fanboy 🤓
...and it still made a profit by doing that. Don't get fooled that Tesla would make a loss here.
@@chillfluencer
???
Tesla replaces a $12k battery pack FREE under warranty, and charges me $1,800 to upgrade the entire FSD / Entertainment system to the latest 2024 spec...and I should begrudge them a profit margin on the $1,800?!?
Ouch 😂
@@awabooks9886why would they replace the battery, the battery is starting having issues?
@@marke9036
I don't know what the previous owner did to kill the battery at 100k miles, but the range seemed kind of short, and then two months after I bought it, it just refused to start. I had it towed to Tesla, they said: Yep, needs a new battery pack, it's under warranty, may take us two weeks. They had it done in three days, including my FSD and Entertainment upgrades.
You can also get your battery pack insured - it not expensive. They diagnose it over the air and if it checks out you can insure it for peanuts per year (less than $200).
Plus liability, collision, personal injury, uninsured motorist and comprehensive.
NOT FOR $200@@howardj602
Where?
The cheapest I could find in Australia was $44,000
The Tesla used market is the best kept secret. The aging rubric for EVs is not the same as ICE. But sellers don’t understand that…..a 100k miles on a Tesla is nothing….vehicle is just getting started towards 300-400k miles. On an ICE especially with turbos, that’s a ticking time bomb.
The Tesla used market isn't the best kept secret at all. It's what's scaring a lot of potential buyers off buying new Tesla's, myself included. The depreciation on these is frightening.
I'm in Australia. You can buy a 4 year old Tesla model 3 long range with barely any miles on it for a bit under half of what they retailed for, and they were expensive, here ($60k USD.)
They're an excellent used car buy but you'd have to be either uber rich or a mug to buy one new.
The same with ICE cars Rambo, 160,000 km (100,000 miles) is nothing these days. Look after an ICE car properly and you can drive it for life. There’s an old bloke in our town with his own delivery business. He has been using his old diesel VW Caddy van for years and years. It hit 560,000 km (360,000 miles) a year ago same day as his 70th birthday and he’s still running around 5 or 6 days a week in it. And your perception of turbo charging is incorrect, almost all engines these days are turbocharged and have been for donkeys years.
@@binarybob9644 yeah, my diesel skoda is going perfectly at 150ks. best car I ever owned, extremely economical👍
@@binarybob9644these days huh? Go buy new merc, bmw or audi and 100-200k is the place to be for all the most expensive repairs. You change whole engines at that point. Not to talk about electronic gremlins, trying to find leaks from millions of recycled plastic pipes, especially from emission stuff.
The new price of Tesla’s has dropped a lot and they are significantly better, which is why second hand older Tesla’s have depreciated significantly.
But the depreciation on a current model3 will be much less.
Also when the penny drops that any Tesla with hardware 3.0 has the potential to drive itself anywhere hands free with the most recent software update(see you tube v 12.4.1) the price will start appreciating
Tesla’s are the bargain of the century at the moment @@davidbrayshaw3529
Sam Sam china man only gives us one side of the story and it’s obviously the good side a more balanced view would be appreciated
Yep! We just purchased two 2021 Ys for 20k each after 4k credits and a 2013 cherry condition S for 12k!!!! Love them all
Do the same with any other similarily lux ICE car at that price and the repair bill will be at least double of what you paid for the car.
Used EV prices are coming down exponentially. I've been following them for about eight years. It only makes sense don't you think? As the rich upgrade to Tesla the poor are buying their old Nissan Leafs when they sell them on Craigslist.
When I grow up, I will be a professional _______ player. You need to have the ability to repair. You are also taking a risk. 8+ years, also out of warrantee. I am sure that for every story like this, there are dozens that did not turn out that well.
Excellent Condition? How can you tell without Telsa's own service department plugging it in? I think there are probably 100 different variations of the same model Y due to not having fixed yearly models as every other manufacturer has. Would you buy a no haggle $25k ex Hertz rental?
$25k from Hertz for a Model Y? Yes I would
Never buy an EV from Hertz.
You can do a multi-day rental of the car you are thinking of purchasing then run the 50% 24 hour battery diagnostics and you will have all you need to know.
@@callmebigpapa I suppose that could work.
Never buy ANYTHING from them!@@Withnail1969
That one example is a rarity. And he got it from an auction.
Used ev discount available through certified dealers only. Auction house wouldn’t count.☹️
Not in the U.K.
In NL, second hand Tesla’s are almost as expensive as a new one.
So why the click bate headline? when the real price are 100% higher. In Germany they start at 15 t.euro. One buying one below are not the market price.
What are you up to?
That's not good advertising for Tesla - collossal depreciation. 😁
Just idiots selling their Tesla when the battery runs out. Cant fix stupid. and cant blame tesla for that either.
A lot of them are on the market from Hertz rentals because they're off lease now. It's hard to tell whether someone f'd around with a car when they rented it.
It’s funny how anti EV people are unable to separate fact from fiction.
Yeah, buying a vehicle at the auction (dealer auction) isn't available to anybody but dealerships. Go on cars.*** And the cheapest Tesla in the USA is $8,000 and has a bad engine. Next lowest price is $12,700.00 but that includes a $4,000.00 tax rebate for those who qualify. They list over 8,600 used Teslas for sale and those are the cheapest ones. Can you find a cheaper one? Sure, but this same guy has a story that a $25k Mercedes he bought for $1,500 so his purchase price isn't normal, hence the video he put out.
Sam, you missed the free Supercharging that would be attached to that vehicle, for life. (Models prior to 2018).
Not all,
I just purchased a 2016 S 90D in January. Love it to pieces, but there is no free supercharging for my car.
@@awabooks9886how much did you bought it for
I thought Tesla makes this non-transferable. If you sell the car you lose the privilege.
@@realestatenow Tesla have changed their policy, but they still honour past undertakings. There are a number of older Teslas, for which unlimited free Supercharging attached to the vehicle.
The $4000 used car credit must be bought retail from a registered dealer.
Use KeySavvy if buying from Private Party
Wrong you can get it from carvana long as its your first used ev and that the ev itself hasnt already been used for Tax incentive. oh and it has to be under 25k and 2 years old.
@@Leafbinder Carvana is a registered dealer.
As soon as Teslas need no driver, any Tesla with FSD with be much more valuable. My 2019 Model 3 drives like new, we've had to buy new tires, that's all. If I upgrade to the Highland I could make my current car a Robocab with a Tesla app and get income. Jeannine
My 1995 Daihatsu Charade also drives like new too. No offence intended here Roger but I’m intrigued, why do you want your car to drive itself? Don’t you enjoy driving?
@@binarybob9644 I do enjoy driving but not all the time. In a city I don't know I use FSD it is huge stress reducer. On long trips it's all FSD it lets me relax and enjoy the scenery. For my wife it's everything; she feels way way safer on FSD and now uses it 98% of the time. And I too feel that I am safer if FSD is on.
Or you can buy brand new BYD that’s thousand times better than a Tesla and drives 1000 miles on each charge for about $10,000
Said every BYD dealer at once.🙋🏽♂️
If I talk to gas car owner friends in the US about Tesla cars ,they are clueless and uninterested, yet I have to endure climate change, smog and ,poisoned everything. Legacy auto, big oil poison the news too. Jeannine
They will accuse you of being “woke “ but they’re the ones that need to wake up and fast!😊
All this does is prove the horrendous depreciation a ev suffers which you denied in previous videos.....
Do you think pricing on tvs is any different. Prices of new tech drops dramatically as the tech ramps and more people can buy.
He doesn't realise that with such huge depreciation he is putting people off buying a new Tesla.
Tesla pumper got it wrong here 😁
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy you don't lose 100k on a TV lol
All cars will be near worthless in 5-7 years due to transport as a service.
If you buy the largest newest tech tv like Samsung's the Wall at 100k to 200k right now bet it won't be worth 10k in 5 years ..😂😂 @@steveclancy7832
Auctions you need a license to go to one. They are not free to the public.
Why leave out that if they can't fix the battery, that not even Tesla will take it back....?
7:22 watch it again
To be fair, it depends on where you live, not everyone lives nears a battery repair a shop. Northwest US and Florida seems to be the best place to be for aftermarket support.
If you can't fix it you can replace it. Prices are around $5k nowadays.
You are not finding Teslas in the USA used for less than 20k without A lot of time and effort.. and when you do find one it will cost a lot to fix up and get working right and will not be worth it.
Now you can get a 20- 25k Tesla everyday used drive right off the lot all over the USA right now .
Hertz is selling off a large amount of it's fleet .. the resale numbers have dropped substantially because Tesla has lowered the price of new vehicles over the last two years. 😂
And they’re going flower prices again most likely as they are on a mission to transition the world to renewable energy as quickly as possible. Making megabucks 💵💵💵
I bought a used Model S last year for 25k. WHen researching, it was obvious most dealers don't know anything about Teslas. I could have gotten one a little cheaper, but I went with an EV specialist, because I had no experience with them. BUt now, I would buy private party or auction without fear, just found out as much as possible about the car. Few of them are ragged out, since people who spend 100k+ on a new car tend to take care of them.
I have a long commute so it works for me. It's not great for long trips, until charging gets faster and more available, we will keep a gas car for that.
Agreed 100% , I picked up a 2022 model 3 long range dual motor for 20K after Hertz sold off a lot. Had 130K on it but banking on a good many miles more.
You are a SCAMMER!
Run the 24 hour battery test on it.
@@callmebigpapa I'm just gonna run it till it breaks, the battery gone when it's gone. Not even gonna stress until then.
Great news for wouldbe owners. Not for tesla stockholders.
Bad news for owners too.
i like that the cars are not thrown away
@@mrafard But if the value of used ones collapses to zero in just a few years, new car sales will dry up. It's not a good thing.
@@Withnail1969 i talked to one owner yesterday. He had just bought his third Tesla
@@Withnail1969 myself i dream about buying a used battery and use it in my house
Why Iwon't buy a $12K Tesla Model S
- there is NO warranty, you putting $15K out there on a game of "Russian Roulette". If the battery IS gone, you might as well have burned your money. Elon won't care.
- there is NO service. Garages won't touch a Tesla, and *Tesla* is VERY expensive and slow to get around to your car.
- there are no aftermarket shops. An aftermarket battery *might* be possible, but Elon would probably sue your a** off if you tried
Tesla remains a rich man's car. Nothing particularly wrong with that, it's full of content and is a true luxury car and is "pushing the envelope". But Tesla (even the Model 3) is not going to bring about global adoption of EVs at THIS price point. The EV revolution requires a full ecosystem - resales, aftermarket parts, aftermarket warranties, charging, etc. STILL ISN'T HAPPENING.
(In the meantime, Ford, GM, et al are busy pricing US consumers out of the car market, which may lead to the APPEARANCE of EVs replacing ICE).
“USED TESLA EVs”?????
I was not aware TESLA manufactured ICE vehicles. Guess I was just unaware…aware…
First off, it's not a $100K BEV it might have been at one point, but those days are long gone because even the new MS sell for $73K. The average person isn't going to do all those repairs themselves, and labor is always the biggest expense of repairing a vehicle, so let's paint a full picture, so people are properly informed. I pulled all the Tesla's by me, the Top 20 lowest price MS they're all 7-11 years old with 60-147K miles and are selling for between $15-19K. If you're willing to give a used Tesla a shot, it's worth considering, assuming you get a pre-purchase inspection of the vehicle to make sure there are no major issues and the battery is in good shape.
$8,000.00 dollars for a used Tesla, humm I'm guessing Flo won't touch that "Discount" with a 50 foot barge poll, and if you can't insure it, you are SOL
Gotta worry about battery degradation, like smart phones over time.
Replacement batteries is not cheap in Australia though, so no I wouldn’t buy one 2nd hand just yet.
However I see what you mean by 10-20k usd and that’s AUD of up too 30k and then there’s the transport fees ie shipping and tax that’s another 10k usd and then I have to register and insurance etc so it might be 45-55k all up I’m not stupid on this one.
It might be simple for you too say that it’s 10k usd, but you gotta understand the very small costs that will end up too be huge by the time you get it in the road in australia
Be absolutely livid if I'd paid 120k for something worth sub 10 now, how the mighty and imperious have fallen guess CT will be next? 🤪
To get the $4000/30% tax credit, you have to buy from someone authorized by the feds, usually a dealer. Buy from your neighbor, you're out of luck.
Yes, if you do not mind your three year old battery is about to add $10-15,000 to that “reasonably priced” USED EV. HAH!
Hertz was selling 2021 2022 Model 3's for as 14k after the Federal Rebate.
Here is a break down of cost in my personal case that shows the savings for going electric:
sequoia 1200mile@13mpg@3.29/gal $303.00/mo, 3600/yr
scion xb 1200mile@28mpg@3.29/gal $141.00/mo,1629/yr
model 3 1200mile@.10kwh $28.00/mo,336/yr
Even if one day I had to replace a Tesla battery with a used one (in my area they are 3-5k) gas savings alone would pay for it in 1-1.5 years
The flaw in your argument is that you used math. Don't you know that Tesla haters can't do basic math?
used one could be just as bad and possibly damaged. read about all the ev fires
@@bobhancox3660 The Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency this year found that there were 3.8 fires per 100,000 electric or hybrid cars in 2022, compared with 68 fires per 100,000 cars when taking all fuel types into account.
@@callmebigpapaSweden is pretty cold😊
thats the main reason no one is buying them new anymore, the resale value is pathetic,
Thank you. We intend to sell our gas car and buy a used Tesla. We bought a new Tesla Y. Keep this kind of thinking going 😁
I’ve bought 2 in the past 18 months and will buy 2 more for my kids but there’s will be used!
all luxury cars devalue fast. you can get used Bentlys and Mercedes that were $200,000 10 years ago for pennies now
I'm confused, look up any 10 year old premium to luxury brand sedan on AutoTrader that sold for a similar price as the Model S and depreciation is also very similar.
"no one is buying them new"? You do know the Tesla Model Y is the world's best selling vehicle? That Teslas are by FAR the best selling EVs on the US market and in the top five best selling EVs in the world's largest market - China? So spare us the uninformed BS if you don't mind.
You never know how long you can drive a used car. EVs depreciate more rapidly than EVs because of questionable battery condition and electrics. Imagine the monetary bath these former EV owners took in the butt.
Replacing the blown main fuse does not fix the problem that cause the fuse to blow in the first palace. Chances are there is a serious underlying problem.
I would definitly consider a used tesla. Think about no maintenance accept for brakes,rotors and tires and the occasional suspension part. its a win win. Also tesla may help u when something out the ordinary happens.
The EV scam is up. People don't want this overpriced junk.
Meanwhile used Toyota hybrids sell at high prices - proven technology. Anecdotal stories about long life of Teslas are canceled by one story about a new battery
they just gave me a free EV, sold it for cheap, and bought TSLS . . .
If EVs are so bloody awesome, why do you need government incentives and nudges and threats to buy them?
so EV propaganda machine is acknowledging that Tesla are throwaway cars now
i'm always wary of paying too much attention to anecdotes. try presenting some real research instead.
Cheapest Tesla in Germany: 15K Euro!
buying used Tesla from Tesla only, buy anywhere else at big risk.
And yet about a week ago you said that EVs hold their value better than ICE cars. Please stick to one story. Can we believe anything you say.
Nope.
That's not the way that things are done around here. It's strictly entertainment only.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 by reading the comments most take him very seriously and believe everything he says. Some appear to treat him as some sort of Messiah.
so they cost way too much new and depreciate at a rapid rate. But at least you don't have to pay for that pesky Gas stuff, lol
The tax incentive is only available if you buy from a licensed car dealer.
Who's going to buy an out of warranty EV with the threat of the cost of a new battery hanging over them?
Try this cheap Tesla story in Oz - no way mate!!!!
The reason prices are so low is that demand for used EVs is low.
Imagine the 2nd hand price of a Tesla once FSD is nailed!
Worth remembering,thanks.😊
In canada used tesla still selling like they new cant find any under 20k
as I understand it the income limits on qualifying for the $4000 federal subsidy for a 2nd hand sub $25000 from a registered dealer are a lot lower than for a new car.
Game over for Tesla
They are just starting. Game over for legacy auto.
lol game over for short sellers
Q2 will be interesting, that's for sure. They can't afford another Q1.
A used Tesla in good condition selling for only $8000. That says it all, they’re almost worthless after they’re driven their first kilometre. There must be a lot of worried Tesla owners out there who shelled out big money a couple of years ago. They’ll probably never risk buying a Tesla again.
Help is available.😮
In April, I bought a 2018 Model 3, long range, with self driving for $7800 at auction. Car had been in a frontal collision, so was salvaged. Cost me another $3k to get it back to good condition. My son and I did the work ourselves. Bought parts from Tesla, ebay, and other online sites. Will register it this week. Only 55k miles. Shops are still afraid to take these on, so insurance rates remain very high.
Are these public auctions? I thought you need a license to go to an auction.
@@PyroShields You are right. My son is part owner of a company that has a dealer license. I bid online.
@@oldguy4057 You bid online where you can't even see the car? That's a risk I'm not willing to take.
@@PyroShields They do a good job with photos and description of the damage and what is wrong with the car. My son has a good feel for what can be fixed and what can't. He can also hack the car's computer. Don't blame you for not taking a risk that you can't quantify.
@@oldguy4057 I have to visually inspect and feel a car. Watching 2 -dimension photos is not enough.
Is that Rich Rebuilds?
A car is pretty much useless to me. I need a tray back ute to replace my Nissan Patrol. Can’t see anything of that class of vehicle on the horizon. Can you?
the BYD Shark Ute is coming.
150k max income bro
Why buy when you can lease a Model 3 for $300?
Great comment but to be fair you do need a decent downpayment on that lease I recall correctly still most people will save that 300/mo in gas alone making the downpayment the only cost.
@@callmebigpapa Down payment is about $3000. Tesla factors in gas savings in their listed payment, but still a decent deal compared to leasing any other similarly priced car.
It would be one of the very rare cases that I would consider a lease.
@@papasquat355 Even if it is a Tesla Lease rhymes with fleece :P so I would still be reluctant incase there is any backend cost at turn in......but yeah they are the only lease I too would ever consider.
Down payment, balloon payment, agreed condition and mileage upon return/penalties, not a business deduction... That's why you'd buy.
My 2016 model S75D with 100k miles is still under warranty until November 2024. Tesla wants to give me $9,800 for trade in this for a new car. The high voltage pyro fuse was already replaced under warranty. 🤣
This is evidence from you that you should NEVER buy a new Tesla because of the catastrophic depreciation, also in the case of this car few people would be able to remove/replace a 700kg battery at home
The car might still not work even if someone manages to replace the battery. The on board systems might not accept a new one not fitted by Tesa service.
As if gas cars don't depreciate. And few people can fix a gas engine at home.
@@davidnika446 Gas cars dont tend to be completely worthless in 5 years from new.
@davidnika446 pick the right car & it will hold its value much more, you would be surprised how many can service their ICE.
At 20 I could rebuild my engines for racing & I was doing accountancy
The average gas car loses 46% of it value in the first 3 years. I would argue the opposite he fixed it for couple hundred at the Tesla dealer. It is like buying a Corvette and finding out it just needed a new injector to fix the rough idle. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.
A snag with that $4,000 tax discount is the limit on the adjusted gross income for the buyer.
I am stuck with buying a used at zero discount or a new one to get the $7,500 discount and not feel like a chump for missing out on the bargain.
Why? Because what I make in a year is over the limit for the used incentive but not above the threshold for the new car incentive.
People that don't know how to smarty buy a used tesla could buy a very expensive problem car.
The battery is the gamble, but how would you know?
No different to an Ice vehicle. How many know how to diagnose if the engine needs replacing. And in some cases it can cost more to replace than a battery.
@@changeofseason8054 Test drive it.
It still cheaper to buy one with a crook battery than it is to buy new.
@@changeofseason8054 A compression test/leak down test and a quick look at the spark plug will tell you pretty much everything that you need to know. The rest is milage and condition and buying a car that enjoys a good reputation. I've owned many cars over the past 40 years, and the only major mechanical failure that I've ever had was a head gasket in a Mercedes. I've never replaced an engine or gearbox in anything.
This applies to other EVs also. The example I saw was a 2019 Nissan Leaf S with 30k miles for $13,500. Also had a 2022 Nissan Leaf Plus with 20K miles for $16,000. They would be $9,500 and $12,000 after the tax savings. These would make a perfect second family car for around town if you can charge them at home. If you are retired and do not drive as much or a teen who needs a car to go to work and school. My favorite was a 2022 Kia EV6 Wind AWD with 25k miles for $25,000. It would qualify since the dealer did not charge any fees.
That sounds nice but for every auction WIN there's 3 guys who had auction LOSSES.
This may be recoverable, but without load testing the battery the range indicator is just wishful thinking, for all we know that car is still junk and has a depleted battery, a depleted structural battery means a trip to the wreckers and $500 for the copper.
Lots of problems with auctions not restricted to EVs.
I had a salesman trying to sell me a GU Patrol ute he got ex-Auction, $10,000, 200,000km said it wasn't mining but the pictures he sent me literally had lots of utes and vans around with 'Thiess' decals.
Thiess is underground mining. - If you buy an open cut ute you will probably have problems, if you buy a underground ute you WILL have problems.
The main point you're making is that buying a new Tesla is terrible value, just buy 2nd hand.
A new Tesla is a ridiculous value proposition. I don't know why anyone would do that to themselves. A 3 1/2 Model 3 in Australia has lost more than half its value, and they were expensive cars, here.
The way I see it is that the point is that you should buy the safest car you can. If you can get a Tesla,either new or second hand it’s worth the search for one that’s in your price range.😊
Great point, and sparked my interest in getting a used one, but don't forget the tax; DMV registration fees and cost to add 220V charging to your residence.
That said, it would still be worth it to get LUDICROUS!
Yeah I seen that Sam he got lucky though it was a gamble on his part and got lucky, but yeah thats why I said I would buy a used Tesla instead of a new one.
I'm surprised "Rich Rebuilds" hasn't done a show that gives advice on how to find a deal.
ouch, someone really took it in the shorts for 90K. hellva deal for the second owner, but..
I suggest staying away from 2012-2013
I love those old (and new) Model S. Insane how far ahead the interior design was.
I did the same with a Toyota Yaris hybrid 2016 model for 10 thousand euros and bring to the Toyota service center for a check and had to pay 570 euros and it was done 130 thousand km and second hand Tesla 26 thousand euros and 130 thousand km done the model of 2019
I did the same with a Toyota Yaris hybrid 2016 model for 10 thousand euros and bring to the Toyota service center for a check and had to pay 570 euros and it was done 130 thousand km and second hand Tesla 26 thousand euros and 130 thousand km done the model of 2019
Old Teslas also have free super charging
The UK government stopped helping people get an EV in 2022 cheers mate
Yea, let's set the UK back 20 years so the gasoline companies can take your money for a little longer. Yea!
Actually they didn't. They require manufacturers to sell 22% EVs this year, with a steeply rising rate following years. No matter how. That leaves manufacturers no choice as to deeply discount them or sell them even for loss, which they mostly do. Otherwise they have to pay a huge fine for each ICE car if they don't meet the quota. Not market economy anymore, it's communism.
@@hiram1923It's not a true market economy unless externalities are accounted for. The requirement isn't for EVs, but zero-emission vehicles. All the ICE car manufacturers have to do is make their engines non-polluting and they're golden!
What? They stopped taking taxes from the poor and effectively giving them to people that can afford a brand new car? That's outrageous! New car buyers need every bit of help that they can get.
The insurance company thinks a 2022 TM3LR with 13k miles and white interior is only worth $31k. How do they get these numbers? They asked a 3rd party to find 3 dealerships with adds for similar model/make/year. I can not make this up. Dealership adds, that are not binding and not realistic were used to determine the value of my totaled car.
sounds about right sorry
Think second hand Tesla can also apply $7500 tax credit, so it’s only $500!
4000, but it is 30% of price so 2700 for a 9000 car
Hybrids have been outselling BEVs in Australia for the past 18 months by about 20%. If Australians are buying hybrids rather than BEVs they will eventually become the dominant vehicle on Australian roads. So the hundreds of millions of dollars needed to expand the charging network can be scaled down. The other offshoot of increasing numbers of hybrids on the roads is that petrol stations will remain with us. Interesting times to come.
Nah but! They’ll probably just keep the petrol stations open for a bit longer.🤷♂️
@@malcolmrickarby2313 Malcolm, I’m seeing more and more predictions, FCC, NRMA, AAA, EVC, etc, that the future of vehicles on Australian roads will probably be 30% ICE, 30% hybrid and 30% BEV. That means 60% of the vehicles on Australian roads will still need liquid fuel and Companies and Governments have always catered to the majorities if they want to stay in business or in Government. Even the Viking when he first started this channel predicted 50% EV and 50% ICE as being the future. He’s gone a bit unpredictable since then and rarely mentions hybrids even though it looks like they’re going to be a major force in the private transport sector.
@@fanbelt9926 the future is more than the next decade. Because of the distance that many Australians need to travel regularly, the energy density of fossil fuels will be a factor in delaying the near total transition to BEVs, but the cost and complexity of maintaining the fossil fuels infrastructure will cause it to collapse eventually.
@@malcolmrickarby2313 Malcolm, I’m seeing more predictions by automotive parties and researchers (FCC, EVC, NRMA, AAA, etc) that the vehicle mix on Australian roads will eventually settle down to 30% BEV, 30% hybrid and 30% ICE. If that scenario eventuates then 60% of private cars on Australian roads will still require liquid fuel. That’s a huge market and the oil companies will respond to that demand. As for Government policy, any Government who ignores the needs and demands of a majority group historically does not last long in office. Even the Viking when he first started this channel a couple of years ago suggested we would end up with 50% EV and 50% ICE in Australia. His audience is predominantly American now so he doesn’t comment on Australia much anymore.
@@fanbelt9926 you’re repeating the story of “Predictions” that are really only self serving guesses from groups with acknowledged vested interests in maintaining the status quo while ignoring the well understood science behind all modern disruptions.🤔
Too big a risk at any price…?
What risk??
@@HeyCheznut That the battery dies in a month and/or fuse blows again. Why did it blow in the first place?
@@hiram1923 Good question why did the fuse blow. Fuse usually blow when they get too hot I'm guessing.
@@PyroShields Yeah, which is caused usually because they draw too much current. Now why did it draw too much current? Maybe because there's something wrong with the battery chemistry? For me it would be too risky to buy such a battery, when it's out of warranty and with that pre-existing fault, that's quite a bit of a gamble here.
@@hiram1923 Too much current would be from rapid charging. Some say that's not good for the battery others say it's not true. However the whole battery never goes bad it's some of the cells. If you can find a shop that services BEV's they can replace the faulty cells.
This is why people don't want to buy a brand new ev.
Hi
$10,000 is still too much.
What would you buy for 10k?
You haven't been car shopping recently.
It would be like buying a grenade not knowing if the pin was in or not!
Just like buying a Hyundai or a Nissan
Bloody bargain that
Can you afford it then?
Buy NIO with battery swap service can almost guarantee higher used car prices
I wouldn't want this Junk if free
Worst case, slap a new battery in. +$8k
2 weeks later the battery fries lol
I’ll get a Plaid when they hit $30k
The tax credit has some stipulations. It has to be bought from a dealer, and the credit can't have been claimed by a previous owner. Looking at the Autotrader ads in the US, if a Tesla qualifies for the tax credit, they've included it in the price already. So a Tesla advertised at $13,000 probably isn't going to be a $9,000 Tesla. The cheapest working Teslas also tend to be Model S60s with about 100 miles of range.
You the hardest working dude on the net bro. Always great info.
That is called ev depreciation rate which is horrible,because of NCM cells,buy toyota bz3 with LFP pack and drive it 10 years with 95% left
And wheels fall off…