5/29/24 Cannon Fodder
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- On a very special Cannon Fodder...Troy and Joe discuss a very special episode of the GCP: Missing Moments! How did the ep come together from top to bottom? And was it just a bit too much drama for one episode? The guys break it all down before grappling with the reality of how close the team came to a TPK in Episode 35 and what would have happened to the Gatewalkers story if that reality came to pass.
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Troy is also an incredibly generous person. In 2021 he, along with members of the cast and members of the Naisch donated a substantial amount of money to pay for a lifesaving surgery for my wife. It was successful and I will never forget what this community did for my family. Thank you Troy!
This is threebowlsofcake btw.
that’s unbelievable, how amazing
it took 5/6 months for Troy to go from "I wanna make this year about community & engagement with the community" to "I wanna make this year about being a CEO and growth for the company" ...
Edit: also thank you Joe for being a real one. you are almost always the voice of reason in these FODs and I love that you make hard statements that often go 180 against what Troy says. love you for that.
It took him 5-6months to say it in a cannon fodder but if you were a true fan you'd know that 1- Troy has always wanted to be successful in creating an artistic career for himself and being a successful CEO of GCN is how you do that. And 2- Troy being successful is the only way to continue and insure the unbelievably great things he's done for himself, all the staff at gc and most importantly us the fans of the show.
People hate success when it's not their own and find it really easy to trash talk them.
Good on him for being a monster and going after it and most importantly ignoring all the noise in the comments
Every time I watch the Fod, I always want to get a good look at Joe’s bookshelf in the background.
Me too
Same 😀
I appreciate Joe more every week. aging like a fine cheese-wine
As a GM of Pathfinder and many other games for over 45 years, I'd just like to say that Troy is one of the three best GMs I've ever had the pleasure of seeing run a game, and two of those are people I've played with personally. I don't always agree with his rulings, but I absolutely respect his right to make his own decisions for his games, which is absolutely his right as the GM, and that's a hill I'll die on. Even having over four decades of personal experience as a GM, I've learned some great lessons from how Troy runs his games, and he puts so many Pro GMs to shame with his integrity in staying true to himself and not pandering to his audience. The GCN has some of the greatest GMs in online actual plays, and Troy is the top of that pyramid. From the early days of Giantslayer to TFC and Gatewalkers and beyond, I look forward to every minute of his games and my wife, who is very hard to please as a player and viewer, has become hooked to his games as well, and that's the greatest praise I can give to any streaming GM.
Last week I traveled 6 hours each way including ferries, paid hundreds of dollars for the vancouver show and vip meet n greet. All of the cast was great and especially getting to talk to Troy. You guys do amazing work, thanks for all you do. Shout out to the amazing Naish members I hung with too!
Troy’s reaction to Joe bringing up Critical Role is like how I imagine Vince McMahon reacts whenever a wrestler brings up AEW. Lololol
God I hope that's where the similarities between the two end
@@SteelyPatI don’t mind them being separate, would be very cool to have a crossover or similar though 😊
Ambition is not the same thing as Ego; you can be ambitious with a sense of collaboration and cooperation without thinking “I’m hot shit, I’m almost always right.” You can affect change in the world without becoming an egotist.
Can you affect change with a massive ego? Sure. Can you cure an infected limb with an amputation? Sure. Is that the best, most effective way to accomplish that goal? Not at all.
Sydney's reaction to the trench coat was top tier comedy gold.
You guys keep doing what you do. My own group has plenty of times we yell at each other and disagree. But in the end we end up having a great time. Troy. You are a very upfront person and don’t dance around what you want to say. Do I always agree? No. But listening to you is never not fun. And at the end of the day, if you and your players are having fun then keep doing it. The thing that brought me to you guys is the fact that you are showing how things really are around the game table. So many other actual plays are so unbelievably sanitized that they feel almost scripted. The Glass Cannon has always showed it all warts and all. But that is what makes the comedy land even harder. Not everyone is here to hate. Some of us are just enjoying the content and not making a loud noises about it online. Keep on keeping on.
I think entire roleplay episodes are often considered the best even though it doesn't push the story forward, because the characters are the main characters. And givng them time to breath and interact is, in my opinion, more important that the story itself (especially if it is a show like Glass Cannon). It's also nice for the GM to be able to sit back and just give the floor to the players, and it's less work!
Respectfully I feel the opposite. I think I play the game for action and like glimpses of character and development. Maybe 75-25 in favor of combat and fast-paced technical play. Characters need to breathe and grow but I'm here for the brawls.
I play with several people who just want to RP. I think that people like that (maybe like you?) make me a better gamer by forcing me out of my comfort zone and into character. Otherwise I'd just be playing chess with extra steps.
I still say it's not my place of comfort or style or where I am happiest. But I appreciate the RPers out there and variety is the spice of life.
Glad this ep made folks like you happy. I can't wait till they go back and figure out how to cook the escargot!
Y'all are one of the few major RPG companies to delve into the business side, process, rules mistakes, thoughts on topics, worts and all with open honesty. Troy both rocks and can on occasion be difficult, like the rest of us without public personas. He's doing it where everyone can comment and wisely moves that to the background. Best wishes to The GCN cast and crew!
I wrote the following on a reddit post asking for your favorite Troy moment. I know that the internet in general is a shit hole full of shit stains, but I want you Troy, Joe, and the rest of the GCP to know that those voices ARE in the minority. I vote with my views, with my dollar, and my word of mouth. But as someone who was a content creator for a year myself, I understand how demoralizing it is, I understand how depressing it is, and so here's my attempt to vote with a comment as well....
Troy is a huge inspiration as a GM, so it's hard to choose just the one moment. I love all of his A&A bits (Mama Fats, Glip-glorp, Tumsy), I love his Col Luther character in RotLC, and so so many amazing moments in the GCP Live game. I love how he sets the tone, how he can effortlessly go from silly to serious and terrifying. I love how he can plan ahead and sew the seeds for plot elements that don't come to fruition for sometimes YEARS. I love how he can constantly, seemingly effortlessly, pick a banter topic every episode that sparks interesting and funny conversations. I love how he can run a podcast, and still somehow keep his friends together at the same time. And I love how he can keep an audience and all his players engaged the whole way through, through nearly 10 years of many of these amazing moments.
But if I had to pick just one moment, I'd probably pick perhaps the most innocuous moment, but it's a big one for me. It's the oft- forgotten pathfinder 2e playtest introduction, episode 1.
I was just a newbie only starting to get into the hobby and had been playing for a year at that point. I was chosen from my group to GM next and they suggested I try out the new pf2e playtest as we were ending our pf1e campaign and transitioning into sf1e before moving on to pf2e on the full release. But we also knew we would have time to kill in between, so here I was, just a newbie GM not knowing how to run the game at all. I knew I wanted something that matched my energy and I often learn by example, so I went to RUclips, typed in "doomsday dawn playthrough" and the very first video seemed fun enough so I clicked it. Troy's very first words EXPLODED into my ears...
"What is going on EVERY-BODY!" [Followed immediately by Joe laughing]
I was literally hooked from the word go. We laughed, we learned, and I saw for the first time what kind of GM I wanted to be. I copied his style until it became my own. I eventually did run Doomsdawn Dawn for my buddies but, unsurprisingly, I wasn't very good, but I was better (so they say) than their first time GMing, so I attribute that to Troy.
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Dear Troy,
If you ever read this, or have someone on your social media team read this to you, just know you literally inspired me to be a better GM, to love these games more deeply, to have deeper relationships with my friends, to try (and fail) to start my own podcast, and to live more fiercely in life. I hope this message was positive and loud enough that even your loud-ass could hear.
Sincerely, a fan. You have many.
I second this. I also find Troy and Joe to be my inspirations as GM!
Great comment. "To live more fiercely in life" is the attitude Tory was trying to get across with the fodders. I don't know what is peoples problem is on reddit but this is how I feel.
The main problem with "Hustle culture" people have as far as I've seen it is not that people can't do it or are afraid of doing it or whatever, but rather "why should I do that?", "why should I monetize every aspect of my life?", a lot of people need a clear line between work and their personal time. The saying can end up being "make your hobby into your job and you'll suck all the enjoyment out of your hobby" just as likely as "and you'll never work a day in your life".
Troy contradictions in he wants his personal life, but wants to change the world. Impossible.
"I'm constantly misinterpreted"
If everywhere you go smells like shit, check your shoe.
I was at the St. Paul show. What a blast, was my first live show and I brought a friend who hadn’t seen you guys and he loved it and said he will definitely go next year! Thanks for coming, looking forward to next year!
Troy has been watching too much Fallout if he thinks giving out a few more bottle caps is going to prevent him from obtaining generational wealth.
Thanks for the shout out on last weeks fod Joe!
This is pretty inside baseball, but after JoCat (Crap Guide to D&D) left RUclips, I’ve felt much more obligated to engage on RUclips and tell the content creators I enjoy that I’m enjoying their content. I know my voice is just one amongst the static, but one more point of positive feedback cannot be a bad thing for your favorite creators.
I’ve been listening to yall for 7-8 years now, and in many ways, I’m less invested in the specific shows and characters, and more invested in you guys as performers. I so appreciate your thoughtful discussion on how to engage with your audience. It certainly isn’t easy, and my sense of y’all is that you guys really care very very deeply about us here in the Naish. You can see it in the VIGCP, you can see it in this show, you can see it in the retreat. Rock on guys…ROCK ON!
I completely agree with Troy on "fan feedback". I don't associate with Fandoms because most, if not all, of them have a vocal toxic element that really kills it for me.
Itll bever get read but its worth saying, the fastest way to become a bad leader is to focus on growth for growths sake.
Okay, I’ll wait… 👂
Its a def interesting topic, Im mean, we are watching every week. I understand Troy, I disagree with lots of what he is saying, but I completely respect his position (Im very much a Joe). I dont know, this makes me nervous posting feedback, like everything is going to be taken as aggressive? - The call outs on PF2e rules is to make the game more enjoyable for those who know the rules - But at the end of the day, us who support you guys, are here for whatever you choose to play. Although, being pejorative and general against the whole audience is obviously going to bring a negative reaction
I don't like pf2 but Troy's little rant is very off putting. Sorry buddy but yeah it's a job. And you any be king of the world and still want family time. You are also a coward if that's his choice. You are either all in and ambitious or a sideliner that would be happy with a million socked away. And get to have your family too. Sorry but the books he is reading are pretty terrible if this has brought these personality traits to the front. I would rather not know his "ambition" and just play the darn game.
There is a lot I want to comment, but I'm just glad Joe called out "Joebs"
I'm not leaving the Naish. Love these shows, and Troy is exceptional at what he does.
That said, I just think he looks admiringly, and aspirationally, at the very toxic capitalists I believe are ruining the world with their own greed. Maybe I'm misunderstanding him, and I refuse to trash him based on my own misinterpretation, but he doesn't seem to see there is HUGE chasm between having "drive and ambition" and being a Jeff Bezos. One is laudible, the other is disgusting. Our weaknesses are just our strengths taken too far.
You said HUGE, 🤭
I hope that somehow, this particular comment gets through; Troy, Joe, we love you guys. Thank you so very much for doing what you do! It is very much appreciated!
Bros!!!!!
I value every like from the GCP. I'm glad someone is reading and letting us know they are. I appreciate that. I definitely hear Troy on this one, but feeling heard and seen makes the GCP more like my buddies than just entertainment producers.
Troy, just listen to Joe, he gets it.
Hey you two! I’ve been watching the show since episode 16 of the Giant Slayer Glass Cannon Podcast. Been with you all for a very long time. Been with you all since you launched the Patreon, when Troy, Joe, Matthew get married, first kids, life events. I donate to you every month. You have carried me throughout a lot of my life.
I support the show because I support you all as people. Seeing you all become business owners and seeing my effect on your growth has been incredibly fulfilling for me as a person. I still support you, bottle caps aside (my opinion on this matter doesn’t matter). I appreciate the choices you made along the way in generating a supportive community and supporting all the new cast members and being a positive place for entertainment for me.
When generating your mission statement, I would love to remind you that the care you have to your cast members and the Naish in general is what shines through. Keep that, and you’ll be good! Good luck yall! Love you.
I may not agree with everything Troy has said in the last Fod and this one, but I really do appreciate the honesty. Love you guys and keep it up, don't worry about the haters :)
It's not surprising to me that Troy loves John Cassavetes. His approach to the scenes that rely heavily on improv and how scenes come up in the moment is very much like the way Cassavetes's films were made. It can make the more drama filled scenes feel more real. His way of saying how to ignore the script and you can "find the moment" is a great way to create a story.
I won't pretend to have a full grasp on the ins and outs in everything you guys deal with. With that being said the thing I believe whole heartedly is that GCP would not have succeeded without the balance of the founders. This video is a perfect example. The fact that Joe and Troy care so much about each other and the business simultaneously yet disagree on plenty is what makes you guys. Troy's ambition and vision alone would not have done this, but Joe's business savvy and consideration also would not have.
Hope people pay attention to what Troy & Joe said. They dropped a lot of pro tips on being a pro! The GCP is #1 in my book. Also as a Bostonian troys personality is par for the course. One of the things I love about the GCP. Troy is keeping it real.
I don't think he is reading the books as much as skimming them, otherwise his best move would be talk less about them and how cowards are everywhere like buzz Lightyear
Praise the algorithm, let it see my engagement. Also really enjoy the fod because as a gm, getting the behind the scenes of how another gm runs their game always helps me improve my play!
Love you guys. You’ve made me laugh, you’ve made me cry, and brought countless hours of entertainment. Keep doing what you’re doing fam.
Hey Troy, I was at the St. Paul show and had a blast. It was the second time that I came to see GC live and I was happy that I had bought tickets for myself and my dad. Do what you have to for the people you care about. Do what you gotta do. I can absolutely respect that.
Is it possible to get a time stamp on the vids for when Troy stops talking about himself in the future? I enjoy the shows but the Fod seems to be caught in the gravity well of his ego.
I don’t think there is anything wrong with talking in the future tense. It is a natural part of speech to explain what one is going to do. Also kind of polite. Can you imagine talking to someone and they just
Huge fan of the network and I never miss a week of fodder. Keep up the good work.
PS can we get Troy a book that isn't about entrepreneurship?
I know Troy won't read it, or likes praise or hate... But thank you for the entertainment. In The view on the inside. I enjoy the blood and sweat the gcp puts out each time. So simple thank you for the laugh, the tears and moments, you all work so hard to share with me, just a simple fan. The world is going to hate, but keep your dreams close and never give up.
From being a writer, I also had to navigate how much feedback to take and what to do with it. Sometimes people mean well with their suggestions, but they're not part of my creative vision, and I think that's what I relate to Troy on. I kind of landed in a spot of having a few people close to me that I could really listen to, and it sounds like Troy is also surrounded by that.
I loved where the last ep of Gatewalkers went. Having some time to breathe and process I think made the loss a bit more poignant without being maudlin.
Now I've said nice things and since I'm a mod, I think I should get to see the final ep of Time for Chaos early.
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Thank you Joe for you insight and talking to Troy about it. Thank you Troy for talking about it deeper, as I do think it was needed. As a side note. You sure you havent read "the fountainhead"?
Anyways, thank you both.
I actually wouldn't mind hearing more about Troy's top 5 books of the year
I've listened weekly since 2016 and I appreciated Joe's perspective here. A group of friends hanging out, shooting the shit and playing roleplaying games is what brought me in to the NAISH and its what's kept me here. I trust you guys know what's best for your business, but I don't want to see "success" get in the way of what makes you unique. Y'all are good people, just keep being yourselves. I am a little worried about Troy's cult announcement...
I appreciate Troy's explanation and apologies, and thanks to Joe for the interesting discussion. Keep up the great work :)
I'm not saying anything more than hasn't already been said, but engaging for the algorithm, I love what the GCN has become. I don't always agree with Troy's rulings but I've never doubted his care and integrity. I appreciate the honesty and realness he shows and I love how perfect Joe is as his counterpart. The GCN wouldn't be what it was without the both of them together.
Troy is so exactly right. If there’s anything that I’ve learned watching business after business crash and burn in 2024 it’s that Troy is without a doubt on the right path. This year is going down as the year where multiple nerd fandoms are dying left and right, or are on life support. As a “boomer” 2017 GCP listener I’ll praise log that my favorite medium just keeps getting juicer. I have Troy and company to thank for that.
TBH I was always so worried Troy would see one of my comments, judge me for its content, and hate me as a person.
Its actually a relief to know he'll never engage with us, because he already made his judgements, and hates all of us.
Cannot wait for the Starfinder 2e playtest. A&A was my first show I listened to and fell in love with your content. Proud to be part of the Naish.
Incredible episode of the fod; and I'm not even done listening. Joe and Troy getting real on what it does to them (mostly Troy) running the business, and being honest and vulnerable about that wasn't something I expected for this fod, but I enjoyed and admired. Troy, you're showing an amazing level of mental health, deciding who gets to be in your in-crowd and who doesn't. This has nothing to do with ego or narcissism, this is all about self-care. Would love to hear more about when you decided to switch from GCN first to family first.
I am getting really turned off by Troy's "anyone who disagrees with how I do things just doesn't understand me" or even worse, "is jealous of my success" line that he brings out every once in awhile on a Fod
Nothing to be ashamed about. It happens to everyone when you reach a certain age or under a great deal of stress. 🔵🔵
I unsubscribed because of it. Tuning in here to see if he pulled back but I guess not.
I barely see any negativity towards GCN even on Reddit 🤷♂️
I was drawn to the Glass Cannon because everyone loved what they were doing. It wasn't a business aiming for infinite growth. It makes me really sad to hear Troy say that it's not his life anymore. If that's the case, then step away. Go become a faceless CEO who only cares about profits and leave the face of the business to the people who still love it.
See, now I loved it. It made me care for these characters so much. 98% of this campaign has been inuendo, flay leaf jokes, and unbalanced combat. Taking a whole episode to RP IS sprinkling it in. Smh.
BTW, that roleplay episode was definitely needed. That was a lot of heavy stuff for a bunch of episodes.
I would like to say that I appreciate the honesty Troy showed on this topic, for it is a unpleasant topic and an unpopular opinion, but he has my respect for it, for it would be easy to just back off and bend over other people. Personally I can relate to his view, and it shows great kindness that he wants to show others with similar ambition that it is posible to do it and be a decent person.
Canadian here - I wasn't able to travel for either of your shows this year. I really hope you're able to come back next year, would absolutely travel to Montreal for a show!
Authentic and honest discussion, very brave! Keep it up chaps.
Clicked off at “generational wealth,” and went for a walk.
I think it’s important to stay physically healthy. Good for you.
Did you miss the part about being a coward for not being ambitious...ready to unsub because of this. Good thing the rest of the cast and crew also has to eat.
@@thorinbane Nope, I heard it. Was that the only reason he gave for not being ambitious? No, it wasn’t. And you know that. Is fear a real valid reason for some people not pursuing their ambition. Absolutely, one hundred percent. The real concern is why that hurt you so much. Worth an introspection. Rooting for you.
@@sagiangrey Passive aggressive, you are well adjusted aren't you, maybe some introspection of your own.
@@thorinbanemy first comment was passive aggressive. Sarcastic through and through. The second was not. It was a direct rebuttal with a genuine question for you to ponder. As for introspection. You bet. We all do. We all don’t though, at least not enough. The world is getting more and more toxic with each new social app. Many of us have been reacting to their world around us, and doing so…too often poorly. We all need that walk you took and look inward a little more.
You guys built something awesome. It is still awesome.
Being as successful as you have been when you have that kind of trauma in your history Troy is a lot to carry and process. Be gentle to yourself xx
We love you Troy and Joe.
We love you!
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Thanks, bud.
This is a weird one. Troy is a great entertainer and I get where he's coming from. But I don't think I need entrepreneurial or life tips in Cannon Fodder. Sports betting insights are very welcome though :)
Where would you think you’d like the entrepreneurial and life tips?
I love to hear the business stuff too. The Fod is a great place to have it in my opinion.
Just want to mention that at least some of the criticism about the Gatewalkers Adventure Path has nothing to do with what the Glass Cannon has done with it. It comes under fire even from people who don't watch/listen to GCP.
I get what Troy was trying to say about it being on GCP to make it good, but sometimes you just don't have a lot to work with. BUT the most important thing I want Troy, Joe and everyone else at Glass Cannon to know is that i still LOVE this campaign. I think you're doing a great job with the AP.
I actually find it interesting because I am relatively new to the Naish and just started listening to Giant Slayer last week. In one of the early episodes Gormley very nearly dies until everyone remembers cover which turned a crit into a miss. While discussing that Troy said something along the lines of "Whew. I was sitting here thinking this is going to kill her! How am i going to keep her alive? Thank goodness we remembered cover and you guys can see my roll, i didn't fudge it, etc."
The implication was that Troy was strongly considering fudging the damage so as not to kill a PC. As a long time player of TTRPGs, I think it's bad to not let the dice tell the story. The struggles make the succeses so much sweeter!
All of this is to say that while saying goodbye to Lucky and Talitha sucks, I think in the end it will make for a better story. Already we're seeing the effects on the other PCs and I think this is something that can pull the party together and make for some great moments going forward.
If I come here to watch the Glass Cannon material, I come here for what they are and they are the only RPG podcast i follow because i like and love what i see, it's my kind of jam and not the fancy clean RPG actual plays i see around (not naming names). They are the middle ground between friends playing on camera and a studio podcast. Tell Troy to keep this in mind, that what you folks are doing is a niche that is working (for us as an audience at least!)
Honestly, I’m glad I avoid social media for reasons like this. I enjoy the shows and cast at the GCP, and am grateful for what the GCN has meant for me the past 8yrs or so. If there was something that I didn’t like, I wouldn’t say anything. Can’t forget the golden rule: “if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all” negativity is bad for my mental health.
Troy, I don't always agree with the way you do things, but I want to say that your storytelling and narration is amazing. I feel it has helped me GM better.
Glass cannon network is a fun thing to look forward to. Keep it up!
In regards to the TPK Gatewalkers question, to me it doesn't have the same strong kind of story hook as Giantslayer, or even Strange Aeons, with both of those it felt like you were in something doing something and those things were important, in this one if feels like you are looking for something to do and things are just sort of happening to you because you walked through some gates in the past.
For the record, I would listen to a Troy life and business advice podcast!
Troy you are doing awesomely. I feel that everyone is so use to seeing actual plays where the pcs are superheroes and dont want to see characters that they have gotten attached to die. Its always easier for people to point out the bad and forget all the generous reads on the rules that you do. For example you could of easily killed off Joe and Sydney by having them fall in the water a few episodes ago. Keep up the good work. Love you guys.
I have become a big watcher of RPG RUclips shows, and I have to say that GCN has the best, most entertaining ones I have seen. All of the casts are fun to watch, and the GMs are all great. Troy does a great job with the Pathfinder and Call of Cthulu games. Also, shoult out to Joe for his consistently great job running Delta Green (I have seen several other groups run Impossible Landscapes and none of them generate the suspense that the cast on GCN does). I would like to see more games with Jared Logan - really enjoy him as a GM and a cast member. All of the other players (Sidney, Kate, Skid and Matthew) are all great. Keep up the good work!
Just wanted to thank you guys, I struggle a lot with mental health and my job hasn't helped lately. Though a few times a week I get to listen to you guys while I work and it let's me escape for a while. Don't get to play ttrpg's as much as I like but I do play pathfinder and dnd 3.5e whenever I can. Love you guys and I would kill to play dnd and pathfinder as a job lol.
Thank you!
As somebody that just passively enjoys the content, and has done for years, I don't understand the friction.
I trust the guys to steer the ship and you can't argue the show quality and cast synergy is the best it's ever been.
Its Woolen-gong 😂 if you come to the Australia we will teach you!
Last week I was hurt by what Troy said and it upset me, but like Troy said I have been here since the beginning Ep 1-3 Giantslayer and I feel so much part of this community, I could give Troy the leeway and understanding to try to hear what he was trying to say. I am here for as long as the road keeps getting paved by these wonderful people. Thank you. I also remember Skid in the early days said he stopped reading the comments for the same reason, it impacted him. So I get it. Love you naish!
I really enjoyed this FOD. I totally understand where Troy is coming from about drive and success. Leaders need to have a strong confidence in themselves and their abilities. They need to develop a vision (a Northstar) and build a team to accomplish the goals. I've been working in corporate America for 27 years and have seen both amazing and terrible leaders. There were some people I would run through walls for and there are others I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire. One trait in common of the great ones - they genuinely care about their team. You can see that from Troy in spades.
I really appreciate what these peeps do. Who cares that Troy is having some sort of Kanye moment? Can’t argue the GCN has never been better. Viva la Naish!
Be cool to be able to purchase that custom CoC scenario in pdf after the live show is over.
I’m with Troy on this one. I think focusing on your own creative process and tuning out noise is a valid way to run an operation. Sure, there are other approaches that work, too. I think even Troy would acknowledge that. But it is possible to value another person’s opinion and input but still not take it.
All that being said, I’m ready to put this conversation to bed and move on to other topics. Thanks Joe and Troy! See you in Boston!
Sweden formally requests a live show!
you can realy tell troy is a standup
every time hes on the spot he says something he knows will wind people up because its funny
Troy having a Laugh Factory moment would be a good time for his spin off.
Im loving the AP so far.
Please come to Florida for the next tour!
Is the Kong Skull Island sesh gonna be uploaded somewhere like Rambo was?
Also hell yeah, more Marvel!
Probably? We are not the ones filming, but we will make sure that pople know about it when it's available to watch.
I enjoy Critical Role and I enjoy The Glass Canon for same and different reasons. I found you because i wanted more actual play.
It was going well until he said anyone talking about the Naish socials being mostly positive has their head up their ass 😂
I think he might mean that if you have loads of positive comments but some bad ones the negativity can feel bigger than the positive. He seems like a glass-half-empty kind of guy so thats my read
@@jamesculverhouse4657negative bias is a real thing. Many peer reviewed scholarly studies done on it. The brain remembers and notices negative things more than positive things.
I really think an *organic* TPK would be be a good business and marketing decision too.
Imagine if people heard about Troy and the Glass Cannon just straight up killing the whole party. It would feed into the general meme around the GCN about not being afraid to kill PCs and also really differentiate them from all the other shows that protect characters from death and narratives from going off rails.
Absolutely wish i could have made it out to van. Complications arose and just couldnt make it. Huge fan of all you kids do. Please please keep the call of cthulhu masks going!
Being alive is hard enough. ❤ it is a lot. I just try to picture everyone as a baby and how they grew up. I hold more compassion more often when I do that lol.
Went to the Vancouver show, this was my first live roleplaying game type of show and it was AMAZING. So much fun and on a weekday! If it was on a weekend I'm sure you would sell out any venue here. Please come back to Joe-couver!!
I don't blame Troy. I blame paizo. They created a poor system that doesn't really mesh with Troy's GM style. If the system relies on heropoints for balance then it wasn't a good system to begin with. First edition was a great system (even with its faults) that bottlecaps felt like they were truly earned. And made the moments feel that much better. Caps now feel like a cop out to everything. Paizo owes us an apology for PF2E 😂
I would love it if the Fod was used basically for discussion of the episode and the Naish, though that may not be the purpose of show.
I would be more happy with a different show, like a mini State of the Naish for the business side discussion. I feel like it would be healthier overall for discourse.
Loved the drama and deep roleplaying in Episode 36 and to me it was always one of the best things Critical Role does.
There are other things that kind of turnt me of from their Channel.
I also don't think the Gatewalkers Campaign is bad.
You guys are awesome keep going the way you are right now.
At this point the GCN is too large to ever make everyone happy no matter what stance you take on anything particular topic. Everyone is looking for something different and there will always be a vocal part of the community ready to interpret whatever is said as a personal attack against everything they believe in.
I think it's more a matter of you can never be big enough to make everybody happy. The smaller you are, the smaller and more focused your audience will be. As the GCN has grown, it's only provided more variety and avenues for a wider audience (different GMs, players, game systems, etc.) which in my opinion is great.
At the same time, it probably suffers a bit on being directly associated with the original Glass Cannon Podcast crew, so that when one of them (in this case Troy) says something that feels alienating or dismissive toward their fans, it hurts the entire brand. Like it or not, the GCN IS the original crew, and the things they say and do will affect the entire network.
To be dismissive toward valid concerns is a recipe for disaster. Troy should just be more careful about how he communicates, because like it or not, he represents the entire GCN. It's what comes with leading a successful company. But he also isn't to the level of Musk or Bezos where they can afford to just piss off whoever they want and not worry about ramifications.
I see what you're saying.
I've been a huge fan since early Giant Slayer and have been to several live shows with the VIGCP, but their main show gets less than 20k views, and they've been doing this for almost 10 years. They're still super small, and they would do well to listen to the Naish. I have no criticism for the show, in fact I love most of what they produce. I have criticism for the sudden shift to Troy's message being about money. It's evident to me that it is about money from their GenCon booth not being about making content, but about people paying $200 to run through an hour of combat with a member of the show. The message that Troy is saying to us is that he's doing this to create generational wealth, which is the exact opposite thing you should tell people if you want their money. Referring to the Naish as customers and not an audience sends the message that we're dollar signs. And I hate that, because I'd like to think that isn't their intent. My phone background is Troy and I at the VIGCP Meetup in Columbus Ohio, and I really enjoy listening to this show and meeting the people in charge, it's just frustrating that recently the show has taken a dip in quality and Troy's attitude has really sucked the joy out of this. It's not like any of the people at GCP are going to read this, and I'm not arguing with anyone, I'm just sad and frustrated, and hopefully I'm not the only one.
As a listener from the very beginning I never want my comments to feel like I'm forcing you to change, I just hope to inform when it feels like you are changing. I love you all, I just fall on the same "side" as Joe's statements in this vod. The very very little time I have had directly interfacing with Troy has shown him to be an incredibly nice and giving person, especially when he got me and my friend into a live show after I royally messed up a ticket jawn. Remember the "why" and I'll always be here ❤
LOVE the TPK ending an adventure followed by the end of the world episode 👍😜😀
Good on you Troy for being a monster and going after it. and most importantly ignoring all the noise in the comments, without you we wouldn't have so much access to content that gets us all through the day
I am critical of Troy and the network because I love y'all and it is important to me. I will always watch and interact, and sometimes that interaction will be not wholly positive and maybe not even necessarily nice. Troy, if you want people to understand you, start saying what you mean. You keep doing this thing where you say something, people criticize you for it, (valid or not) then you say that what you said isn't what you said. You literally do it in this video, baldly. Lol Love you guys, love the Naish.
I share my compassion with Troy, GCN, and the Naish, because I like, like you all. I will try and watch as much as possible, but you produce quite a lot. I promise to not always interact, and when I do I will be purposely nice and unholy 😏. I get you, Troy, and I understand exactly what you meant both times. I figuratively think your hair looks great with your hat on. Like, like you all (laughing emoji).
I think the thing i really apreciate in troy is that i DO disagree with him in game, on fod, general philosophy BUT i see that he's well thought through and more than dedicated to what he believes and that in itself is admirable. I appreciate hearing from him because its a perspective i dont have and he provides me an opportunity to look outside myself and people that agree with me. Thanks for being impressive Troy you deserve to be happy and you work hard and no one can take that from you.
Been having some decent conversation on the discord...I really think that you all are doing amazing with the eps and how you guys play your games is how you play your games. I think there is a good amount of people that, as you say, have different perspective and that's fine. Yall don't deserve the hate.
Love the way that yall explain how to go about managing relations and feedback. Once again, here for a good time and a long time. :)
Edit: Also come back to Chicago!!!
Yeah I think I might be done with Fod until something's changed. Give Troy a business podcast and bring Kate on for the Fod. Troy has made the insane choice to alienate the fanbase on THE TALK BACK SHOW. Kate came into the network as a fan. She's the perfect fan pov insert.
This, 1000%
When do you think you’ll know for sure?
@@sagiangrey are you a bot? you have left a dozen or more replies in this comment section and every single one reads like it is written by bad AI.
@@_claymorehmm, good question.
I wish we got to see more of the Teddy Bear Troy. I got tired of the adversarial relationship a long time ago. Ohhhhhh wait. I totally get the noise comment now! Do wish it was better expressed, but I get it. We comment and discuss, someone reads them and conveys the important information to Troy, they discuss what they think is wrong and what they are going to do, then we discuss with each other. I totally didn't give Troy enough credit for having open and honest discussions about the game the way cannon fodder has always been. I still think that he may have caused a future problem, but we should be more trusting that they are going to maintain the vibe and quality of the show that we have come to expect.
oof if you go back to Canada touring, I'll keep an eye on when to go visit my family there and come see you folks haha unless you'll come to Europe one day 😅🥲
I enjoy Troys insights to the business side of things. I've read Simon Sineks 'Start With Why', it's a great book. I'd also recommend the related Ted talks. For me, all this chat is 'behind the scenes'. Not saying I want all business chat, all the time, but now and then it's a welcome insight