In my experience, most rotary tools have a problem: single bearing on the shaft. They work for a few hours, then bearing play develops and they get loudy and lots of run-out, destroying any accuracy beyond rust-removal and the vibration is very hard to me, as my hand nerves have damage from tool vibration and they get very numb. I hardly use angle grinders and oscillation tools anymore, just when absolutely necessary. As far as I know, the IBS/E is the only 1/8" rotary tool to have two bearings in tandem mounted on a metal housing, theoretically solving the problem. I don't know of other brand or model, there could be someone. Am considering getting this tool for mounting on the lathe, as Proxxon manufactures holder 24098, which they state that is for mounting it to their PD-230 lathe usage. I do have a real lathe toolpost grinder, but it's cumbersome, big, heavy and hard to align. An IBS/E mounted to the toolpost changer would be many times faster and suffice for most jobs.
thanks for the video i just bought one of these to replace my dead Dremel 4000. i got recommended to get a proxxon by quite a few people but no one mentioned a specific one so i had a toss-up between the FBS 240/e and this. the 240/e is comparable price-wise to a new Dremel same as i had and it would have been fine for me i suppose. however, it was noisy and it got hot every time but apparently thats normal. i saw this one was quite a bit more expensive but it looks more robust so i bit the bullet and ordered one. hopefully, it will meet my expectations it seems like its quieter for sure and i noticed when people turn these on low speeds they seem to whir around nice and smooth where as my Dremel was always grinding sounding as if i didn't give the motor enough power. tbh i think they messed up on the speed controller really they should have had its minimum speed a bit faster so it didnt sound like it was lacking power.
@@mikko3d i wouldnt buy one again the motor blew it was nearly £50 for a replacement and i had to replace a couple of components on the board! so im sticking to cheap £30 ones now at least if it breaks its cheap enough to replace. i still have the proxxon but i dont use it much as im disappointed with it now. i have a lumberjack one now i use that mostly now it was cheap and cheerful
@@TotoGuy-Original Interesting, thanks for sharing. I was looking at the proxxon for casual hobby use, mainly for the double bearing, nice torque and quiet operation. How heavy was your usage? Daily? maybe a bad unit?
Well, I like them, I think they are significantly better than the Dremel, and a lot quieter. I'm only a tinkerer, so don't push the tool that hard. If you are using for long periods I suspect you might need a bigger commercial solution, but if jewellery making is a hobby, I think you will be fine.
Thank you for that helpful video. What attachment did your son use for engraving on a guitar. I’m looking for something for making inlays on musical instruments
Well O don't know if it will work for you but he used a tiny 'ball shaped burr' an alternative might be a ball shaped diamond grinder, good luck with the project
HI, it seems the flexishaft can fit on any other dremmel tool. Why did you imply that it only works on the proxxon? I was just searching for a video to see how the flexishaft fits on to the proxxon and I am shocked that it just goes on as if it is some burr piece. I would think it clipped on to the proxxon tool with much more elegance, but the way it clips on it would for sure clip on to any other dremmel tool, would'nt it?
Hi, yes, the flex shaft will fit any rotary tool, I didn't think I'd implied it was only for the proxxon although it is a proxon product. The other proxxon accessories, the ball joint table clamp and the drill press only fit the Proxxon.
Do you put any lubrication on that flex shaft? The handle can unscrew a bit and there is space to put oil at both ends but I can't find any info about lubricating this Proxxon model. Thanks.
I don't, I've never really thought about it until now, but I did have one break not long after getting it, so it might be worth considering. I know when I spoke to Proxxon at the time they never asked if I had used a lubricant, they thought I'd probably bent it too much (which I hadn't) so I think they don't expect you to.
@@DIYTinkerer Thanks for answering. The handle is the only place where is easy to put a some drops of oil, if needed. To lubricate the inside of the tube, which is where other brands need lubrication, doesn't look like an easy job. I don't know how the other end can be unscrewed. So I'll leave it like that for the moment.
Thank You very much for this video. Will this tool be useful for precision drilling, for example making 1mm hole in 4-4.5 mm steel bar? It would be great to demonstrate such drilling process in stainless steel. Do You familiar to the IBS/A, that is the cordless version of IBS/E. Do they both use the same brushed motor and double bearing technology. It is interesting to know...
I have not used mine for drilling steel, their customer service was very good so it might be worth contacting proxxon direct. Let me know what they say.
So I have a question, I have the fbs240e and I'm getting some weird vibration/ resonance above 16k rpm with an empty 3 jaw chuck (no tool inserted), without the chuck it is really smooth, is my 3 jaw chuck unbalanced/defective or is this expected?
Hi, I don't have the chuck, just the collets, but what you describe sounds like an unbalanced chuck, if it is a proxxon chuck I'd contact them for advice.I got good adivce when I contacted then, but that was a long time ago.
Hi there, thank you for this video, I've just been introduced to Proxxon and am having a hard time figuring out which is best for me. I need power (silversmithing - grinding metal) as well as high accuracy for precision drilling, I have gathered that this model is the most precise of the bunch, however, I cannot do precise 0.8mm drilling holding a tool this size, so what I'd like to find out, is if it is still so accurate/still/low vibration when using the flex shaft? This also is a more expensive one and I am not even sure if it is available in my country as I have only seen the FBS 240/E model here so far, which seems pretty good too, also claims precision but this one seems to be the winner when compared. But yes my main question is, does it retain its low vibration/high accuracy when its used with the flex shaft? I wish there was a showroom where I could try them all out. The small/low volt models look much easier to hold but I am not sure if they have enough power for some metal tasks. Thanks again for the video!
I don't use the flex shaft much, but I've just had it out to assess the vibration for you and I'd say the vibrations are perceptible ( you can feel it is on) but my view is this isn't going to affect the accuracy. Worth noting that the flex shaft uses a chuck rather than collets, if the accuracy you need demands collets then I doubt you will get what you are after, but given you are hand holding the flex shaft I suspect you will be fine. I couldn't detect and more vibration than the tool on its own was giving. Hope this helps.
@@DIYTinkerer Thanks so much for checking for me!! It is really appreciated as I can't find nearly as much info on Proxxon as one would with Dremel for example. And many videos are in Russian with awful auto-translate! Thanks again! Do you have any knowledge or experience with the smaller versions? I see there are the two big models and then lower Volt smaller devices
@@DIYTinkerer I have a Proxxon flexible drive and it can be used with the collet chuck as well as the three-jaw chuck. The collet chuck is far less bulky than the 3-jaw.
My experience was within the last few months - and it's apparent things have changed over time. No matter, I fixed it without them and a new part (I just didn't want to waste time having to go through all that).
In my experience, most rotary tools have a problem: single bearing on the shaft. They work for a few hours, then bearing play develops and they get loudy and lots of run-out, destroying any accuracy beyond rust-removal and the vibration is very hard to me, as my hand nerves have damage from tool vibration and they get very numb. I hardly use angle grinders and oscillation tools anymore, just when absolutely necessary.
As far as I know, the IBS/E is the only 1/8" rotary tool to have two bearings in tandem mounted on a metal housing, theoretically solving the problem. I don't know of other brand or model, there could be someone.
Am considering getting this tool for mounting on the lathe, as Proxxon manufactures holder 24098, which they state that is for mounting it to their PD-230 lathe usage.
I do have a real lathe toolpost grinder, but it's cumbersome, big, heavy and hard to align. An IBS/E mounted to the toolpost changer would be many times faster and suffice for most jobs.
Thanks for the extra info, I didn't know they made the tool post attachment, I will definitely look into that!
I have the same since almost 10 Years and i still love it
Thanks for letting me know, my reviews are my opinion, but its always good to know they are shared and I'm not too far from the mark!
Proxxon Micromot 60E I wish I would have bought one years ago it's just a fantastic tool.
Yep they make great tools
I use it, with the drill stand, turned 90° with a fine grinding wheel, and I saw acrylic tubes to taste, or PMMA for water cooling in PCs.
Great 😃👍
thanks for the video i just bought one of these to replace my dead Dremel 4000. i got recommended to get a proxxon by quite a few people but no one mentioned a specific one so i had a toss-up between the FBS 240/e and this. the 240/e is comparable price-wise to a new Dremel same as i had and it would have been fine for me i suppose. however, it was noisy and it got hot every time but apparently thats normal.
i saw this one was quite a bit more expensive but it looks more robust so i bit the bullet and ordered one. hopefully, it will meet my expectations it seems like its quieter for sure and i noticed when people turn these on low speeds they seem to whir around nice and smooth where as my Dremel was always grinding sounding as if i didn't give the motor enough power. tbh i think they messed up on the speed controller really they should have had its minimum speed a bit faster so it didnt sound like it was lacking power.
Great, I'm glad the vid helped you make a choice, I've never regretted getting it that's for sure. 😀
How has it been?
@@mikko3d i wouldnt buy one again the motor blew it was nearly £50 for a replacement and i had to replace a couple of components on the board! so im sticking to cheap £30 ones now at least if it breaks its cheap enough to replace. i still have the proxxon but i dont use it much as im disappointed with it now. i have a lumberjack one now i use that mostly now it was cheap and cheerful
@@TotoGuy-Original Interesting, thanks for sharing. I was looking at the proxxon for casual hobby use, mainly for the double bearing, nice torque and quiet operation. How heavy was your usage? Daily? maybe a bad unit?
@@mikko3d it wasnt daily use it was occasional use
Hi, would you suggest this and the flex shaft for a gold jeweler? can it handle hard and extensive work? I had one proxon for 15 years, so i am a fan.
Well, I like them, I think they are significantly better than the Dremel, and a lot quieter. I'm only a tinkerer, so don't push the tool that hard. If you are using for long periods I suspect you might need a bigger commercial solution, but if jewellery making is a hobby, I think you will be fine.
Thank you for that helpful video. What attachment did your son use for engraving on a guitar. I’m looking for something for making inlays on musical instruments
Well O don't know if it will work for you but he used a tiny 'ball shaped burr' an alternative might be a ball shaped diamond grinder, good luck with the project
Thanks.
HI, it seems the flexishaft can fit on any other dremmel tool. Why did you imply that it only works on the proxxon? I was just searching for a video to see how the flexishaft fits on to the proxxon and I am shocked that it just goes on as if it is some burr piece. I would think it clipped on to the proxxon tool with much more elegance, but the way it clips on it would for sure clip on to any other dremmel tool, would'nt it?
Hi, yes, the flex shaft will fit any rotary tool, I didn't think I'd implied it was only for the proxxon although it is a proxon product. The other proxxon accessories, the ball joint table clamp and the drill press only fit the Proxxon.
Does the hand piece of the flexi shaft share the same 20mm diameter collar? So it can be held in the table clamp for example?
Hi, you can't hold it in the table clamp it is too small, when I use it I put the proxxon in the table clamp and hold the flex shift.
@@DIYTinkerer Ok thank you. 👍
Do you put any lubrication on that flex shaft? The handle can unscrew a bit and there is space to put oil at both ends but I can't find any info about lubricating this Proxxon model. Thanks.
I don't, I've never really thought about it until now, but I did have one break not long after getting it, so it might be worth considering. I know when I spoke to Proxxon at the time they never asked if I had used a lubricant, they thought I'd probably bent it too much (which I hadn't) so I think they don't expect you to.
@@DIYTinkerer Thanks for answering. The handle is the only place where is easy to put a some drops of oil, if needed. To lubricate the inside of the tube, which is where other brands need lubrication, doesn't look like an easy job. I don't know how the other end can be unscrewed. So I'll leave it like that for the moment.
Can't say the first minutes of the video fill me with much confidence in the thing...
Well I wanted to give an honest review. 😕
@@DIYTinkerer That's excellent. It wasn't a criticism of your review.
Thank You very much for this video. Will this tool be useful for precision drilling, for example making 1mm hole in 4-4.5 mm steel bar? It would be great to demonstrate such drilling process in stainless steel. Do You familiar to the IBS/A, that is the cordless version of IBS/E. Do they both use the same brushed motor and double bearing technology. It is interesting to know...
I have not used mine for drilling steel, their customer service was very good so it might be worth contacting proxxon direct. Let me know what they say.
So I have a question, I have the fbs240e and I'm getting some weird vibration/ resonance above 16k rpm with an empty 3 jaw chuck (no tool inserted), without the chuck it is really smooth, is my 3 jaw chuck unbalanced/defective or is this expected?
Hi, I don't have the chuck, just the collets, but what you describe sounds like an unbalanced chuck, if it is a proxxon chuck I'd contact them for advice.I got good adivce when I contacted then, but that was a long time ago.
Hi there, thank you for this video, I've just been introduced to Proxxon and am having a hard time figuring out which is best for me. I need power (silversmithing - grinding metal) as well as high accuracy for precision drilling, I have gathered that this model is the most precise of the bunch, however, I cannot do precise 0.8mm drilling holding a tool this size, so what I'd like to find out, is if it is still so accurate/still/low vibration when using the flex shaft?
This also is a more expensive one and I am not even sure if it is available in my country as I have only seen the FBS 240/E model here so far, which seems pretty good too, also claims precision but this one seems to be the winner when compared.
But yes my main question is, does it retain its low vibration/high accuracy when its used with the flex shaft? I wish there was a showroom where I could try them all out. The small/low volt models look much easier to hold but I am not sure if they have enough power for some metal tasks.
Thanks again for the video!
I don't use the flex shaft much, but I've just had it out to assess the vibration for you and I'd say the vibrations are perceptible ( you can feel it is on) but my view is this isn't going to affect the accuracy. Worth noting that the flex shaft uses a chuck rather than collets, if the accuracy you need demands collets then I doubt you will get what you are after, but given you are hand holding the flex shaft I suspect you will be fine. I couldn't detect and more vibration than the tool on its own was giving. Hope this helps.
@@DIYTinkerer Thanks so much for checking for me!! It is really appreciated as I can't find nearly as much info on Proxxon as one would with Dremel for example. And many videos are in Russian with awful auto-translate! Thanks again! Do you have any knowledge or experience with the smaller versions? I see there are the two big models and then lower Volt smaller devices
@@1827handmade sorry it's the only model I've used, personally given a choice between Dremel and Proxxon I'd get the Proxxon, German engineering...
@@DIYTinkerer I have a Proxxon flexible drive and it can be used with the collet chuck as well as the three-jaw chuck. The collet chuck is far less bulky than the 3-jaw.
@gospelman7222 ah interesting, I never knew that, thanks for pitching in. :-)
Is a good rotary tool, quiet, variable speed and runs smooth. The only downside....getting replacement parts for it.
I emailed support and they supplied a part , this was a few years ago.
My experience was within the last few months - and it's apparent things have changed over time. No matter, I fixed it without them and a new part (I just didn't want to waste time having to go through all that).
@thomassawyer6523 that's very sad to hear, they we're so good a few years back, glad you got it sorted.
Almost bought Dremel brand since it was popular, then came across Proxxon so i was like "ah lets go with German engineering instead".
Yep, I don't think you will be disappointed.
Dremel is also German engineered, since it is a part of Bosch.
hi wich one i can get for cut tiles thank you!!
Hi, the key here is the bit, try a diamond cutting bit
Dremel 3000 broke after five uses
Ouch, I hope you got your money back and bought a proxxon!
Dremel is another league....
the chinacrap league.
LOL thanks for watching :-)
Not a very useful video for me, it doesn't show all the accessories that come with.
Oh, I'm sorry to hear that, it only comes with a few tool bits just to get you started really, plus a set of collets.